@@blackheart59_ Cool I thought I heard you say that Raven was fun, I thought that was interesting I’ve never heard anyone say that about that character. I like all the Ninja’s 🥷
Everybody crying about certain chars in their videos meanwile ma man makes the most respectable tierlist and has completely opposite opinions compared to salty streamers. Congrats !
Taking all the characters to the highest rank should be the prerequisite to making any tierlist in a fighting game. People know nothing about characters other than their main so all they do is complain
I main Bryan (4 months) and Kazuya (4 years) and I agreed with the placements. With Bryan you can just stick to non-executive stuff and be successful with it and his pokes, personally I go the unnecessary high road with him as it’s more fun doing higher execution stuff. With Kazuya, it takes a LONG time to actually do launch punishes with his PEWGF especially online while others have it easier (like Bryan with 14f jet upper)
Congratz mate! Really well done. Also this goes to show that what ive been saying about steve is correct. That all non steve players always say hes easy until they pick him up and try it for themselves.
@@JustSirDanN please say it louder for the people in the back I just got my tekken king back with Steve it’s actually miserable playing him sometimes into drag feng ling Jin law Reina etc
@@ace_jds1875 I quit playing ranked once I hit Fujin with Steve (only character I play) cause those matchups are just so unfun. Those characters can just put out constant pressure, and continuously mix in high crushing launchers so that you can barely start your own offense by interrupting with jabs. Wouldn't be so bad if every single match wasn't against a Jun or a Xiaoyu, etc. I'd say like 1 in 10 ranked matches are against a character who's actually fun to fight against with Steve, like Kazuya, Paul or Bryan.
I applaud your endurance to learn this game the way you did. It is really something. I actually had the issue you mentioned and I quit the game, playing non other than Steve. The mental fortitude it requires to play the guv is insane. And because of that, I have huge respect. Congratulations!
Hwoarang haters won’t like what you said about him, but you’re completely right. The moment you start sidestepping against him, the more opportunities you will get to punish him. His tracking is so bad and now they nerfed a handful of his best tools. Although he has insane plus frames, he also has very unfavorable minus frames for some of his key moves. A Hwoarang who doesn’t know what he’s doing, will get blown up every time. Thank you for this, sincerely a Hwo main 🫶🏻😂
As a newcomer in the serious tekken community, it's interesting to have this Kind of return. I played Victor first and now Raven and I agree that Victor plays the game with you as for Raven you have to put his strengths on everytime or you will lose if you don't mix up enough.
So this is possible after all and not a theory I never thought anyone would test this so ALL of the characters are viable for ranking up. This is good data and the hardest character for getting god of destruction of the bunch that I play I can see here is Reina in the "Meh" level difficulty, two of the four characters I've played any significant amount are in the "Very easy" category with Jin and Alisa.
Avevo il dubbio fossi italiano, poi ho letto la bio e ho sentito come hai detto JEK hahaha, un fratello. Complimenti per quello che hai fatto, veramente impressionante, rende la tua una delle tierlist più attendibili.
Kazuya is super difficult, this is for everyone who says opposite.. Ppl who say kazuya isn't super difficult don't even dare to pick him up but they trash talk
@@whenthe934 You sound like a typical hater haha Kazuya is not just execution, his df1 is 15 frames -7 on block lol He's slow as hell, once other characters start bombing you with pressure you constantly take chip damage he's not easier in T8 neither, it's a lie.. His Oki was more simple in T7 cause ff3 didn't whiff on get up. Now in t8 you need to use more moves ff2, CD1+2, chikueee, D1+2 to make him work. Play kazuya and see what happens hahaha
@@Jin_is_poor_mans_kazuya tekken 8 kazuya has a lot of strong moves now and u don’t even need to perfect electric anymore even easy combos do a lot of damage
super insightful, it seems like 300 win mark tied with a lower than (personal overall) average win rate is sort of a tell tale sign that whatever strategy someone is using for that character should be heavily refined or at least seriously reconsidered back to the drawing board.
I’m working on getting all the characters to Tenryu rank to unlock an achievement. This way, I can learn all the movesets and tricks, making it easier to counter them. Given my limited time, I’ve managed to get five characters to Tenryu so far: Paul, Bryan, Dragunov, and the Bears. Currently, I’m at Garyu rank with Reina and still progressing.
As a Lee main I kinda agree with Lee they made him a lot more accessible in T8 compared to past tekken games, he still needs execution but other than that hes gameplan is so much more simpler now with b33
Xiaoyu and Paul both strike me as characters that seem brain dead until you try playing them. Like you go “they’re just doing X Y and Z and winning” but then you play them and try to do that same X Y and Z and if you do it braindead you’ll get run over, you have to know what you’re doing with them. (Paul maybe more so at a medium-high level and Xiaoyu maybe more so at a high level.) Whereas I think Victor and Dragunov for example really are kind of autopiloted. From my understanding Nina seems similar to some people, I find her fairly difficult but this is my first Tekken game and she’s the only character I’ve really tried playing. I also feel like, she’s S tier but my impression is that which of her S tier tools you use with her sometimes completely varies by matchup. I could be wrong though and I’m just not using the right tools well, but that’s the impression I get.
Ik you are cracked but if you do this challenge in the middle east or asian server, i think Jun will be the only character at your highest rank. Im not saying you are bad but from what i saw on EU ranked, people are extremely terrible at the game and i think it is because alot of people play tekken in EU which makes ranking up easier compared to other regions. Also i see you make crazy streaks on the highest rank with Jun which will never happen in the other regions.
@@blackheart59_ Yea , you are old school with few others and there is a big gap in skill between you and the rest of EU because there are many newcomers in tekken 8 which is also good for long term for the game. Would love to see you play more often in Middle East if there isn't much lag for you, your Jun is amusing to see :)
Its amazing that u did this, i main Ling and i think i could be GoD or at least tekken god by now (im bushin, getting closer to tekken king step by step when i feel calm enough to try), but i get so angry at ppl winning rounds just spamming cheap shit that i end playing unranked to not kill some1 , like constantly spamming powercrush, throws and some random safe launcher from time to time ,randomly i insist, it wouldnt be a problem if it were a read but i know they r just mashing to force u to guess every single time. How the fuk this ppl got so damn far without learning to play... You hit them and they still mash their shit instead of blocking. Ofc there is always a lucky guess in figthing games but this ppl just take it to another lvl, as much as i love the game, i despise the bast majority of the player base... Its so rare to find a good match... Im so glad u put on supereasy all the chars i think have broken shit. Im suprised about hwo tho, he is a masher by nature with lots of broken tools, but ye i liked ur explanation it takes time to understand the stances but once u learn some basics, he is a monster. Shaheen should be on supereasy, you dont even remember it XD I think thats reason enough... all shaheens spam the same strings and mixups all the time and still work, i only found 1 shaheen that showed me moves i didnt know about.
I was a spammer and I m new to this game but now I m understanding the basics. I agree tht playing by mashing and meeting players who do tht, no disrespect to them, r not playing in a way tht u can understand the game, Or enjoy playing. Anyone can reach the G.O.D rank, if they play enough matches. But u cant learn how to play unless u really understand the science of the game.
@@DannyBob08 as another Xiaoyu main, all of this. Tekken used to reward smart setups. Now you spam one of three things and it turns the fight. Also extra salty in T8 because Xiaoyu used to have some of the best oki in T7, and now it's trash, and meanwhile it feels like everyone else has the most cheap garbage oki that resets you back into face down head towards, or wall splats, or sets up another juggle. Here I am trying to get creative with Xiaoyu when I've down the opponent and 90% of the time if you press a button you go off axis and whiff and your round is over. I've learned that ub+4 is basically the only dependable oki, and the amount of times now I just let them get up is sad. Because literally everything is too much risk to try. But 100% the player base is toxic these days. It's really sad. Tekken used to be the chillest base.
@@Pervy I agree, i use to beat him, but u need experience to gues rigth and the timing skills to face a char like that, and still he has everything to counterplay ur adaptations at every moment in any situation. Its a constant guess at every step of his atacks, or almost, but they know how to keep the turn. The good ones of course.
Maybe you could make a "fun" tierlist! Would be cool to see what characters you thought were the most fun to play, regardless of their strength/difficulty
Very different tierlist from others but I rly cant disagree. Imo hworang makes it easier just because of pure knowledge check but overall very good list
i would say yoshimitsu is a special case because he's not really hard in the same way that kaz is hard because of execution or steve is hard because he works 10x harder than the rest of the cast to secure a launch. out of all characters in the roster, he's the character that requires the most MU knowledge and experience if you want to be able to play him at his fullest, mostly because of flash applications and MU specific defensive tech he can use. i also strongly believe that people haven't yet grasped this MU, meaning currently yoshi players get away with murder a lot (just look at qudans holding 3,1 over and over again for example), and with time this character will become harder to do well with at high level. don't get me wrong : i still think he will always be a strong character by nature of being a defensive character in a game all about pressing buttons, but i doubt people at top level will still die to 3,1 in like 1 year. congrats on your achievement btw, amazing stuff
I appreciate seeing a good player like you not shit talking about Hwoarang like other ppl do. I think if more people would try playing him at higher ranks, they would understand how much work it needs to get him straight forward. Congrats to this achievement and I died everytime playing against you hahahah
Most don’t care about the difficulty. They just think he’s annoying or don’t want to spend time learning the match up. Same with Ling, Zafina, Yoshi and the bears.
Everyone knows Hwoarang is hard to master and use at high ranks but most people just don't like his game design it's annoying to fight against regardless of rank.
I can’t really speak for high level but I got jin and hwo to red rank and it was so much harder with hwo it gets really stressful sometimes being forced into flamingo and having to keep pressing even though you maybe don’t want to and almost all of his good moves are locked behind one of the flamingo stances. I only played Jin because he was so much simpler but since I’ve been maining hwo it’s obvious how difficult he actually is
Hwo doesnt deserve any respect... It takes time to learn how he works, thats all, ill give u that. He clearly said he had a hard time with him because he struggled to learn some tools he have...
I saw u on the leaderboard and I've been watching ur xiaoyu replays and i became a fan. I never knew u had a youtube channel, I came across it by random from the youtube algorithm. You earned a new sub, looking forward to more content!
I got a challenge for ya @BlackHeart59. I wonder how diverse a fighting game player you are? I would love to see you get every character to the highest rank in Skullgirls the second hardest fighting game. The understanding of this game is S Tier.
@@blackheart59_ , I was thinking you might not play skullgirl? But if you got the mind to achieve the highest rank with every character, Then you are sonic fox tier and knee, Of course sonic fox is some type of fighting game genius, What do you think of ninjakilla's law? Also do you know if Knee got every character to the highest rank. I want to see your games against the top players.
I played you many years ago and see you online every day but never want to invite you because you will make me look like a noob😂 Its crazy how good you are with every character!
Gotta love that people will argue with someone with every character at god😂. Anyway congrats, this is an incredible accomplishment. Dont tell people about Jack until i get god too 😅
You think Lars was the easiest? I think he is the worst in the game, he is susceptible to 15-frame launchers in stance, has bad small combos and neutral, Heat smash is risky to use, linear gameplan, I also play Leroy but he feels more flexible on offense idk
I’m a shaheen main and you don’t even remember lfmao. that’s very fitting for the shit shaheen gets, i didn’t remember this character exists, who put rashid in the game, etc . that’s tough 😂 i think he’s hard to win with tekken 8 format. I feel shaheen works better in longer sets. with one and done mindsets or best to two it’s really all over the place. Shaheen doesn’t have a lot of abusable stuff or gimmicks that are as crazy as others. To me he’s the ryu of the game. Easy to pick up but to master different story his while standing 3 loops are insanely hard. curious if you were able to master those or what your combo routes were
Characters with non-traditional play styles will always be harder… with someone like Bryan who is considered hard he has very easy fundamentals which make him fairly easy but with characters like zafina hwo Raven yoshi who play their own way it’s really hard to adapt to
@@blackheart59_was Bryan easy because u are obviously a really strong player already or was it because hes super strong in T8? Im only bushin on Bryan and Steve so not to strong of a player yet but personally Steve was easier for me to get up there than Bryan. (I mained Bryan all of T7 pretty much)
This is the most accurate and honest tier list I have seen for this game. I always groan when I have to fight anyone in the "Super Easy" category. And its like 80% of the fights.
Amazing work bro 👏 your findamentals must be marvelous 🙌🏼 would be happy with my firstTekken King haha 😄 Kishin atm with Yoshi, ill get there bro kust need to iron out some of my bad habits lol
I was only surprised by Lee, you even put it in "Easy" with those combos full of cancels and precision concatenations. Yoshi is a character who doesn't give you anything, he has potential for top 13\15 for me so it's probably even more difficult than that. Steve is probably the most difficult character in the game and also devil jin. question: are you Italian? I ask for your pronunciation of English 😂
@@blackheart59_ ahah, si per me che sono italiano l'ho capito in fretta 🤭 Comunque mi piacerebbe poter fare qualche partita con uno che ne sa così tanto su Tekken anche se volesse dire perdere 20 a 0 🤭 sicuramente ho da imparare molto.
@@blackheart59_ ah ok, lavorando oltre la decina di ore al giorno non ti prometto niente ma sicuramente appena sono al pc mi aggiungo ai tuoi followers. Se hai telegram posso aggiungerti li per dei consigli più pratici e diretti magari
I usually watch a lot of pro players playing the characters to have a gist of what they do. Plus experience does its part, I play Tekken since a I was a child
@@Annihilation99this.... all I do is watch what moves pro uses and ask myself y then go in practice mode check out the frames and u will quickly find out y they use those moves, i learn optimal comboes watching these guys...
@blackheart you should videos about the top ten moves with every character , excluding heat. Just thought. I often search for those on UA-cam and I know other players do to when we’re learning new characters
@@blackheart59_ I know it’s a lot of work , but there’s not enough videos out there like that . There were more for tekken 7 and when I was first learning my main , hardcore, the video helped me out tremendously. It transformed my gameplay . And they don’t have to be super long videos , they just be medium
Curious if you attended any tournies recently? And if so, which ones haha great achievement in doing this yo. I'd be surprised if you weren't successful in tournaments
I would have appreciated it if you would have played Eddy now and then give your opinion. Putting him on super easy by saying it's because you played him when he released and nobody knew his strings is, compared what you say to every other character, kinda unfair. An honest feedback on him would have been nice. But nice video!
I don’t think there’s ANY shame in switching to an easier/stronger character as your main till YOU feel your favorite character is viable. It’s about what’s fun for YOU. If a MATCHUP makes you want to give up, that should be incentive to learn the counterplay; but if YOUR OWN character makes you want to give up I feel that’s a much harder road to follow. I got lucky - I didn’t know anything about tier lists and just picked the character I liked the most, and coincidentally she just won Evo. However in MK11 I wanted to main Kollector but in terms of viability he was just very mediocre on release, so my pocket character (Jade) became my main until Ultimate dropped (and he got big buffs along the way). I just had more fun that way. I found they had the same qualities I liked (what I call in 2D games “melee zoners”) and Jade was just more viable for a while. I’m in purple ranks as well - maybe give Paul a shot? I really like Steve’s moveset, and I can’t stand fighting Paul, but I did try learning him a little bit because that’s what I try to do when a character is giving me trouble and if you like Steve I feel like Paul might be a little more accessible and have more tools you can use. He’s still not top tier at all but worth a shot maybe?
@@blazaybla22 After taking a break from Steve, I came back more refreshed and I'm enjoying playing Steve whether I win or lose. I think I was just burnt out chasing ranks for dopamine.
@@tylernair2922 Hell yeah! In my experience dopamine in Tekken comes from when you lab something and it pays off big time, then I think rank is kinda just a reflection of having done that over and over. So I think for me Tekken is the most fun when I accept that my rank is sort of out of my control (mainly because of the random nature of the streak system, point distribution etc)
Take a break from ranked and do some learning/labbing or just do some more social matches with peeps. It’s a better environment to learn in rather than getting cheesed 0-2 for your ranked points and never seeing that opponent again.
I play Steve and only, I’m just a fan of the character. I know he’s always been challenging to master but I know I got it. I’m only flame ruler at the moment but I’ll reach G.O.D one day. Then ill be competing at evo again and hopefully other majors.
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Which characters did you have the most fun with?
@@okcjoesosZAFINA, Jun, victor, the bears, Alisa and lars
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Cool
I thought I heard you say that Raven was fun, I thought that was interesting I’ve never heard anyone say that about that character.
I like all the Ninja’s 🥷
@@okcjoesosRaven was also very fun, yeah ^^
I am shocked that Knee doesn't have every character tekken God supreme God rank.
bruh played you in bushin as hwo vs xiayou. saw 500k prowess and shat myself
congrats on the achievement!
Thanks!
@@Zenkai.boost.Kekkei.Genkailol 😂
Everybody crying about certain chars in their videos meanwile ma man makes the most respectable tierlist and has completely opposite opinions compared to salty streamers. Congrats !
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Taking all the characters to the highest rank should be the prerequisite to making any tierlist in a fighting game.
People know nothing about characters other than their main so all they do is complain
Seeing my hwo in super hard gives me strenght on knowing i reached tekken king with it
@@Monkey_Tree facts
I’m glad someone who actually has the UNIVERSAL qualifications is ranking the characters
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"we have mokujin at home"
Very impressive, well done.
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You can hear he is italian and how he says claudio is perfect
CUHLAUDIOH
OSSERVA!!
I main Bryan (4 months) and Kazuya (4 years) and I agreed with the placements. With Bryan you can just stick to non-executive stuff and be successful with it and his pokes, personally I go the unnecessary high road with him as it’s more fun doing higher execution stuff. With Kazuya, it takes a LONG time to actually do launch punishes with his PEWGF especially online while others have it easier (like Bryan with 14f jet upper)
Glad you agreed!
Congratz mate! Really well done.
Also this goes to show that what ive been saying about steve is correct. That all non steve players always say hes easy until they pick him up and try it for themselves.
@@JustSirDanN please say it louder for the people in the back I just got my tekken king back with Steve it’s actually miserable playing him sometimes into drag feng ling Jin law Reina etc
@@ace_jds1875 I quit playing ranked once I hit Fujin with Steve (only character I play) cause those matchups are just so unfun. Those characters can just put out constant pressure, and continuously mix in high crushing launchers so that you can barely start your own offense by interrupting with jabs. Wouldn't be so bad if every single match wasn't against a Jun or a Xiaoyu, etc. I'd say like 1 in 10 ranked matches are against a character who's actually fun to fight against with Steve, like Kazuya, Paul or Bryan.
What noob mfs say Steve is easy idk if I’ve ever seen anyone say that. At least anyone who was out of green ranks lol
THIS.
HE STILL WORKS TOO DAMN HARD
I applaud your endurance to learn this game the way you did. It is really something.
I actually had the issue you mentioned and I quit the game, playing non other than Steve. The mental fortitude it requires to play the guv is insane. And because of that, I have huge respect.
Congratulations!
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WHAT?! YOU REALLY TOOK EVERY CHARACTER TO GOD OF DESTRUCTION?! Thats impressive as hell.
Yes! Thank you ❤️
Now this is the tier list I respect, your hard work is very much appreciated my friend thank you
Hwoarang haters won’t like what you said about him, but you’re completely right.
The moment you start sidestepping against him, the more opportunities you will get to punish him.
His tracking is so bad and now they nerfed a handful of his best tools.
Although he has insane plus frames, he also has very unfavorable minus frames for some of his key moves.
A Hwoarang who doesn’t know what he’s doing, will get blown up every time.
Thank you for this, sincerely a Hwo main 🫶🏻😂
Love ya
Agreed with basically everything you said. We can tell your opinions are based in first hand experience. Great job.
Congrats and thanks for the video!
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As a newcomer in the serious tekken community, it's interesting to have this Kind of return. I played Victor first and now Raven and I agree that Victor plays the game with you as for Raven you have to put his strengths on everytime or you will lose if you don't mix up enough.
As a Steve main i agree on that.He is super difficult but also fun asf
True!
So this is possible after all and not a theory I never thought anyone would test this so ALL of the characters are viable for ranking up. This is good data and the hardest character for getting god of destruction of the bunch that I play I can see here is Reina in the "Meh" level difficulty, two of the four characters I've played any significant amount are in the "Very easy" category with Jin and Alisa.
my dumbass picked up kazuya as a beginner but i cant see myself playing anyone else , i just love the character
fair enough!
@@Azoz157_ then keep playing him u tend to improve better with characters u enjoy it may take longer but you'll have fun and get better in time...
Avevo il dubbio fossi italiano, poi ho letto la bio e ho sentito come hai detto JEK hahaha, un fratello. Complimenti per quello che hai fatto, veramente impressionante, rende la tua una delle tierlist più attendibili.
Grazie ♥️
Kazuya is super difficult, this is for everyone who says opposite..
Ppl who say kazuya isn't super difficult don't even dare to pick him up but they trash talk
his gameplan is easy just hard execution lol he was harder in tekken 7 a lot easier in tekken 8 now
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You sound like a typical hater haha
Kazuya is not just execution, his df1 is 15 frames -7 on block lol
He's slow as hell, once other characters start bombing you with pressure you constantly take chip damage
he's not easier in T8 neither, it's a lie..
His Oki was more simple in T7 cause ff3 didn't whiff on get up.
Now in t8 you need to use more moves ff2, CD1+2, chikueee, D1+2 to make him work.
Play kazuya and see what happens hahaha
@@Jin_is_poor_mans_kazuya i play kazuya
@@Jin_is_poor_mans_kazuya it’s a fundamental character
@@Jin_is_poor_mans_kazuya tekken 8 kazuya has a lot of strong moves now and u don’t even need to perfect electric anymore even easy combos do a lot of damage
super insightful, it seems like 300 win mark tied with a lower than (personal overall) average win rate is sort of a tell tale sign that whatever strategy someone is using for that character should be heavily refined or at least seriously reconsidered back to the drawing board.
AYY! Steve got some respect here. Nice!!! Like to see my guy get some love (:
Always!
Congrats. Must have been alot of hard work!
6 months!
I’m working on getting all the characters to Tenryu rank to unlock an achievement. This way, I can learn all the movesets and tricks, making it easier to counter them. Given my limited time, I’ve managed to get five characters to Tenryu so far: Paul, Bryan, Dragunov, and the Bears. Currently, I’m at Garyu rank with Reina and still progressing.
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As a Lee main I kinda agree with Lee they made him a lot more accessible in T8 compared to past tekken games, he still needs execution but other than that hes gameplan is so much more simpler now with b33
and ff3
You're an absolute madman. Well done.
Amazing work bro, looking forward to your future content
Welcome to the channel! Spread the word!❤
Xiaoyu and Paul both strike me as characters that seem brain dead until you try playing them. Like you go “they’re just doing X Y and Z and winning” but then you play them and try to do that same X Y and Z and if you do it braindead you’ll get run over, you have to know what you’re doing with them. (Paul maybe more so at a medium-high level and Xiaoyu maybe more so at a high level.) Whereas I think Victor and Dragunov for example really are kind of autopiloted. From my understanding Nina seems similar to some people, I find her fairly difficult but this is my first Tekken game and she’s the only character I’ve really tried playing. I also feel like, she’s S tier but my impression is that which of her S tier tools you use with her sometimes completely varies by matchup. I could be wrong though and I’m just not using the right tools well, but that’s the impression I get.
Xiaoyu and Paul are so strong. But you have to understand how they play
Ik you are cracked but if you do this challenge in the middle east or asian server, i think Jun will be the only character at your highest rank. Im not saying you are bad but from what i saw on EU ranked, people are extremely terrible at the game and i think it is because alot of people play tekken in EU which makes ranking up easier compared to other regions. Also i see you make crazy streaks on the highest rank with Jun which will never happen in the other regions.
I play and beat (with a bit of lag) middle easterns regularly, too. It would probably be harder in Asia tho, yes
@@blackheart59_ Yea , you are old school with few others and there is a big gap in skill between you and the rest of EU because there are many newcomers in tekken 8 which is also good for long term for the game. Would love to see you play more often in Middle East if there isn't much lag for you, your Jun is amusing to see :)
Its amazing that u did this, i main Ling and i think i could be GoD or at least tekken god by now (im bushin, getting closer to tekken king step by step when i feel calm enough to try), but i get so angry at ppl winning rounds just spamming cheap shit that i end playing unranked to not kill some1 , like constantly spamming powercrush, throws and some random safe launcher from time to time ,randomly i insist, it wouldnt be a problem if it were a read but i know they r just mashing to force u to guess every single time. How the fuk this ppl got so damn far without learning to play... You hit them and they still mash their shit instead of blocking. Ofc there is always a lucky guess in figthing games but this ppl just take it to another lvl, as much as i love the game, i despise the bast majority of the player base... Its so rare to find a good match...
Im so glad u put on supereasy all the chars i think have broken shit. Im suprised about hwo tho, he is a masher by nature with lots of broken tools, but ye i liked ur explanation it takes time to understand the stances but once u learn some basics, he is a monster. Shaheen should be on supereasy, you dont even remember it XD I think thats reason enough... all shaheens spam the same strings and mixups all the time and still work, i only found 1 shaheen that showed me moves i didnt know about.
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I was a spammer and I m new to this game but now I m understanding the basics. I agree tht playing by mashing and meeting players who do tht, no disrespect to them, r not playing in a way tht u can understand the game, Or enjoy playing. Anyone can reach the G.O.D rank, if they play enough matches. But u cant learn how to play unless u really understand the science of the game.
Even after you learn Hwo he is hard to play at high level
@@DannyBob08 as another Xiaoyu main, all of this. Tekken used to reward smart setups. Now you spam one of three things and it turns the fight. Also extra salty in T8 because Xiaoyu used to have some of the best oki in T7, and now it's trash, and meanwhile it feels like everyone else has the most cheap garbage oki that resets you back into face down head towards, or wall splats, or sets up another juggle.
Here I am trying to get creative with Xiaoyu when I've down the opponent and 90% of the time if you press a button you go off axis and whiff and your round is over. I've learned that ub+4 is basically the only dependable oki, and the amount of times now I just let them get up is sad. Because literally everything is too much risk to try.
But 100% the player base is toxic these days. It's really sad. Tekken used to be the chillest base.
@@Pervy I agree, i use to beat him, but u need experience to gues rigth and the timing skills to face a char like that, and still he has everything to counterplay ur adaptations at every moment in any situation. Its a constant guess at every step of his atacks, or almost, but they know how to keep the turn. The good ones of course.
Maybe you could make a "fun" tierlist! Would be cool to see what characters you thought were the most fun to play, regardless of their strength/difficulty
Yes, maybe next tier list!
Very different tierlist from others but I rly cant disagree. Imo hworang makes it easier just because of pure knowledge check but overall very good list
at high level it's all mind games, because everyone know matchup
Hwoarang is difficult to use in high-level play. Everyone knows the match-up and Hwoarang has subpar tracking on many of his moves.
Exactly @@marcusjones9084
Damn bro everyone hates my main lol
@@jonnysimpson093 That good. His concept works well then
ORGOGLIO ITALIANO :D
Ti vogliamo prossimo ct della Nazionale
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I feel justified watching this. I main Reina and everyone complains she’s OP and I’m like yea…no….
Very strong tho, yes
You're insane. I found it exhausting reaching GoD with just 1 character and you just casually do them all haha. Congrats!
Yo mert, nice to see you're still playing
@@blackheart59_ yeah bro i still play occasionally. we should get some games in again.
i would say yoshimitsu is a special case because he's not really hard in the same way that kaz is hard because of execution or steve is hard because he works 10x harder than the rest of the cast to secure a launch. out of all characters in the roster, he's the character that requires the most MU knowledge and experience if you want to be able to play him at his fullest, mostly because of flash applications and MU specific defensive tech he can use. i also strongly believe that people haven't yet grasped this MU, meaning currently yoshi players get away with murder a lot (just look at qudans holding 3,1 over and over again for example), and with time this character will become harder to do well with at high level. don't get me wrong : i still think he will always be a strong character by nature of being a defensive character in a game all about pressing buttons, but i doubt people at top level will still die to 3,1 in like 1 year.
congrats on your achievement btw, amazing stuff
I appreciate seeing a good player like you not shit talking about Hwoarang like other ppl do. I think if more people would try playing him at higher ranks, they would understand how much work it needs to get him straight forward. Congrats to this achievement and I died everytime playing against you hahahah
Most don’t care about the difficulty. They just think he’s annoying or don’t want to spend time learning the match up. Same with Ling, Zafina, Yoshi and the bears.
Everyone knows Hwoarang is hard to master and use at high ranks but most people just don't like his game design it's annoying to fight against regardless of rank.
I can’t really speak for high level but I got jin and hwo to red rank and it was so much harder with hwo it gets really stressful sometimes being forced into flamingo and having to keep pressing even though you maybe don’t want to and almost all of his good moves are locked behind one of the flamingo stances. I only played Jin because he was so much simpler but since I’ve been maining hwo it’s obvious how difficult he actually is
Hwo doesnt deserve any respect... It takes time to learn how he works, thats all, ill give u that. He clearly said he had a hard time with him because he struggled to learn some tools he have...
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Continua così , grande black Heart 👍🏻🔥
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As a hwoa main I LOVE the nerfs we got. Makes every win more satisfying when ppl say we spam for easy wins.
Let's work bro! ❤
nice video and SUPER impressive. you're amazing keep up the good work
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Dang. I can't believe how much I enjoyed this video 😂😅
I saw u on the leaderboard and I've been watching ur xiaoyu replays and i became a fan. I never knew u had a youtube channel, I came across it by random from the youtube algorithm. You earned a new sub, looking forward to more content!
More Will come soon! Love you!
I stream on twitch every day, I'll wait for you;
I got a challenge for ya @BlackHeart59. I wonder how diverse a fighting game player you are? I would love to see you get every character to the highest rank in Skullgirls the second hardest fighting game. The understanding of this game is S Tier.
Mmm haha
@@blackheart59_ , I was thinking you might not play skullgirl? But if you got the mind to achieve the highest rank with every character, Then you are sonic fox tier and knee, Of course sonic fox is some type of fighting game genius, What do you think of ninjakilla's law? Also do you know if Knee got every character to the highest rank. I want to see your games against the top players.
Beh, congratulazioni 🤗
Congratulations and thank you for making this video, very interesting to hear your thoughts. Also as a DVJ main this video is prime copium for me😂
Hahaha I bet it was!
I played you many years ago and see you online every day but never want to invite you because you will make me look like a noob😂 Its crazy how good you are with every character!
What is your psn Id?
@@odydeukaleionas7281 blackheart59_, its the same everywhere
TIO. you did it man, i was waiting for this tier list tio, congrats on all character of GoD.
Bro mains the whole Roster..
Anyways Congrats on this astonishing feat
Thanks ♥️
Ciao, ottima tierlist sto avendo una crisi per scegliere il personaggio principale ma credo che la mamma di jin sarà mia😊
Yeeee
Gotta love that people will argue with someone with every character at god😂. Anyway congrats, this is an incredible accomplishment. Dont tell people about Jack until i get god too 😅
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GAME HOURS : 999. 59.59
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yeah HAHAHA
No lifer
You think Lars was the easiest? I think he is the worst in the game, he is susceptible to 15-frame launchers in stance, has bad small combos and neutral, Heat smash is risky to use, linear gameplan, I also play Leroy but he feels more flexible on offense idk
Honestly with 133 wins I already got the GoD, the character is a perfect online character
I’m a shaheen main and you don’t even remember lfmao. that’s very fitting for the shit shaheen gets, i didn’t remember this character exists, who put rashid in the game, etc . that’s tough 😂
i think he’s hard to win with tekken 8 format. I feel shaheen works better in longer sets. with one and done mindsets or best to two it’s really all over the place. Shaheen doesn’t have a lot of abusable stuff or gimmicks that are as crazy as others.
To me he’s the ryu of the game. Easy to pick up but to master different story
his while standing 3 loops are insanely hard. curious if you were able to master those or what your combo routes were
The combo routes I did with him were kinda the easy ones, no WS3 loop.
ws3 loops aren’t that hard they just take practice, like lees combos, also full crouch mixup is very strong in ft2
Congrats, are you gonna get it with Heihachi?? play with him before the devs realize he is too broken and nerf Devil Jin
Of course
Coungratulation man that´s awesome 👏👏👏
You're awesome
I play Hwo and as I've been saying he is as hard to master as Kazuya, people laugh. He is hard to master. Period.
Not really just clear weaknesses like his tracking not really comparable to a char which need as much fundamentals and execution like Kaz
Hwoarang’s movelist gives you a headache unlike Kazuya
I just stopped by to say this:
RESPECT!
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Characters with non-traditional play styles will always be harder… with someone like Bryan who is considered hard he has very easy fundamentals which make him fairly easy but with characters like zafina hwo Raven yoshi who play their own way it’s really hard to adapt to
Exactly, it's not about execution only but also about gameplan
@@blackheart59_was Bryan easy because u are obviously a really strong player already or was it because hes super strong in T8? Im only bushin on Bryan and Steve so not to strong of a player yet but personally Steve was easier for me to get up there than Bryan. (I mained Bryan all of T7 pretty much)
@@Annihilation99 super strong and also cause his neutral and pokes are so good
Dude. Are you in the pro scene? This is insane.
I did a lot of tournaments in Tekken 7. Tekken 8 I'm starting now ^^
Awesome achievement, well done!
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Of course he only forgot his experience with shaheen. He is so damn uninteresting .
yeah ahahha
Good shit man
I forgot Shaheen even exists. I haven't seen him online for ages.
Hahaha
Wouldnt go as far to say that Law is busted but everything else I agree with, good list tbh
@@aidanguy2182 Law main?
@@αλεξηςπεγιαδης Law and Kaz
Congratulations on G.O.D RANKS
thanks!
This is the most accurate and honest tier list I have seen for this game.
I always groan when I have to fight anyone in the "Super Easy" category. And its like 80% of the fights.
Hope you enjoyed!
sei il numero 1 cmq bro un abbraccione!
Amazing work bro 👏 your findamentals must be marvelous 🙌🏼 would be happy with my firstTekken King haha 😄 Kishin atm with Yoshi, ill get there bro kust need to iron out some of my bad habits lol
Lesgo bro! I'm here for you
How mutch time you spend in every character to get the max rank?
depends. Average 2/3 days for each character
@@blackheart59_ what?!
Real Life MOKUJIN..... You have my respect. 🫡 IDOL.....
Love you! See ya on twitch!
This was cool. Thanks for sharing.
thanks!
I was only surprised by Lee, you even put it in "Easy" with those combos full of cancels and precision concatenations. Yoshi is a character who doesn't give you anything, he has potential for top 13\15 for me so it's probably even more difficult than that. Steve is probably the most difficult character in the game and also devil jin.
question: are you Italian? I ask for your pronunciation of English 😂
Yeah, I am, is it that clear?😂
@@blackheart59_ ahah, si per me che sono italiano l'ho capito in fretta 🤭
Comunque mi piacerebbe poter fare qualche partita con uno che ne sa così tanto su Tekken anche se volesse dire perdere 20 a 0 🤭 sicuramente ho da imparare molto.
@@DarkLess89Xcerto, passa in stream
@@blackheart59_ ah ok, lavorando oltre la decina di ore al giorno non ti prometto niente ma sicuramente appena sono al pc mi aggiungo ai tuoi followers. Se hai telegram posso aggiungerti li per dei consigli più pratici e diretti magari
Mi chiamo uguale a qui, cercami @@DarkLess89X
Love this tierlist, where are my bryan's down players now? lol
Happy someone else recognizes that Jin has everything and is easy mode tekken
Top 1 right now
You’re a Tekken genius
Thanks ❤️
How do you approach learning new characters? I want to start playing yoshi after bryan but I yawn when I see how many moves he has
I usually watch a lot of pro players playing the characters to have a gist of what they do. Plus experience does its part, I play Tekken since a I was a child
Bryan has alot of moves too. Now think how many you actually use of those^^
I main yoshi as a second main he’s easy bro I can help you
@@Annihilation99this.... all I do is watch what moves pro uses and ask myself y then go in practice mode check out the frames and u will quickly find out y they use those moves, i learn optimal comboes watching these guys...
How many GoD ranks you got?
Yes.
Basically haha
@blackheart you should videos about the top ten moves with every character , excluding heat.
Just thought. I often search for those on UA-cam and I know other players do to when we’re learning new characters
Could be an idea for sure
@@blackheart59_ I know it’s a lot of work , but there’s not enough videos out there like that . There were more for tekken 7 and when I was first learning my main , hardcore, the video helped me out tremendously. It transformed my gameplay . And they don’t have to be super long videos , they just be medium
I respect your fire for the game bro, you must be a great player,
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king is so bullshit online because often just a single frame of lag make you more succeptible to get caught in a damaging grab
True
You might be the only person to trust on this since you have literally played every character at high level
Thanks ❤️
ggs. I came here for the Shaheen opinion and I obviously got cooked 🙃
Hahaha sorry man
@@blackheart59_ Don't be bro. Thanks for replying though. Once again ggs. Excellent achievement.
Jin doesn't get enough crap for being top tier as he deserves.
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This is the most Respektfull tier list ❤
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Good video bro Bryan wall damage is broken
absolutely
took me 2 sentences to realize he’s italian lmao
HahahahHHH
this is an incredible achievement
You're incredible ❤️
Curious if you attended any tournies recently? And if so, which ones haha great achievement in doing this yo. I'd be surprised if you weren't successful in tournaments
I'm not playing tournaments much, I don't like this game competitively. I enjoy doing content more
As a Steve main I feel validated.
You are you are
@@blackheart59_ yippiiii >w< :3c
Congratulations bro 🤜
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I would have appreciated it if you would have played Eddy now and then give your opinion. Putting him on super easy by saying it's because you played him when he released and nobody knew his strings is, compared what you say to every other character, kinda unfair. An honest feedback on him would have been nice. But nice video!
This tier list was based on my experience, not the objective truth^^
This is Mt first tekken game and I picked Steve because I like boxing. I'm at Flame Ruler and I just feel like giving up.
never do it!
I don’t think there’s ANY shame in switching to an easier/stronger character as your main till YOU feel your favorite character is viable. It’s about what’s fun for YOU. If a MATCHUP makes you want to give up, that should be incentive to learn the counterplay; but if YOUR OWN character makes you want to give up I feel that’s a much harder road to follow.
I got lucky - I didn’t know anything about tier lists and just picked the character I liked the most, and coincidentally she just won Evo. However in MK11 I wanted to main Kollector but in terms of viability he was just very mediocre on release, so my pocket character (Jade) became my main until Ultimate dropped (and he got big buffs along the way). I just had more fun that way. I found they had the same qualities I liked (what I call in 2D games “melee zoners”) and Jade was just more viable for a while.
I’m in purple ranks as well - maybe give Paul a shot? I really like Steve’s moveset, and I can’t stand fighting Paul, but I did try learning him a little bit because that’s what I try to do when a character is giving me trouble and if you like Steve I feel like Paul might be a little more accessible and have more tools you can use.
He’s still not top tier at all but worth a shot maybe?
@@blazaybla22 After taking a break from Steve, I came back more refreshed and I'm enjoying playing Steve whether I win or lose. I think I was just burnt out chasing ranks for dopamine.
@@tylernair2922 Hell yeah! In my experience dopamine in Tekken comes from when you lab something and it pays off big time, then I think rank is kinda just a reflection of having done that over and over. So I think for me Tekken is the most fun when I accept that my rank is sort of out of my control (mainly because of the random nature of the streak system, point distribution etc)
Take a break from ranked and do some learning/labbing or just do some more social matches with peeps. It’s a better environment to learn in rather than getting cheesed 0-2 for your ranked points and never seeing that opponent again.
Bro really completed an online game that's designed to last for a decade 6 months after it was released!
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hi, i got a question which character that forces u to learn the fundamentals?
I would say shaheen
I'm a beginner wants to learn an easy character but I'm confused, is Nina easier than Feng?
No, characters are not ordered
@@blackheart59_ Which one do you think easier?
Feng
Congrats bro!
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I play Steve and only, I’m just a fan of the character. I know he’s always been challenging to master but I know I got it. I’m only flame ruler at the moment but I’ll reach G.O.D one day. Then ill be competing at evo again and hopefully other majors.
Good luck!
Yes all the broken characters are the only characters you face at the high level
Except Kazuya, he is everywhere literally played 5 in a row at high level 😊
God of destruction with EVERY character???
YES hehe
Bro how did you manage to do this? Have you slept since the game was released? 😭😭
Not much hahs