Could say the same for Reina with her easy 15 or 16 frame launcher she also has a easy mode electric but everyone says Jin is a fake Mishima when he as a character doesn’t embrace the Mishima style at least not 100%
@@Bloodhound_214 you can only electric out of df3 during heat. easy electrics during heat is a shared mishima trait and wave dash isn't the difficult part. df3 is really only a factor at beginner level where people aren't going to know how to place electrics properly anyway.
@@Bloodhound_214 Devil Jin has d3+4 and Jin has it too and they both had it for a while. People are not calling Jin a fake Mishima for this though, he simply does not play like a Mishima and doesn't have neither the advantages nor the disadvantages Mishimas have. Reina is borderline a Mishima, especially since her flash punch doesn't lead to knockdown (Heihachi's used to wallsplat too). Also all Electrics are easy mode on heat, if you fail the just frame they still come out as Electrics but they cost heat meter. Jin is the ONLY character that can get his just frame move out without needing to time it correctly and without heat, using his new df2 stance transition.
@@georgegkoumas5026 yeah I see a lot of people saying that df 2 gives you free electrics and it does I guess it’s because I’m thinking everyone plays Jin like me jin is not a Mishima he changed his fighting style to not be a Mishima every character that has an electric gets it for free in heat the df2 into electrics is mostly a gimmick when you can actually do electrics you don’t need that gimmick
To be fair, Jin isn’t exactly a pure Mishima but he’s considered an exception. CD+4 is slower than the other Mishimas (20f for jin and 16 for the other mishimas.) He doesn’t have an electric wind god fist - he has an electric wind HOOK fist. Does not have the usual 112 flash punch. Reina is basically like heihachi with obvious differences.
If you think about it, he's telling the truth. Tekken 8 is focused heavily on offense and using your own bullshit before your opponent uses their bullshit. But Reina, while not being the hardest Mishima is still a very hard character. Lots of people describe Tekken 8 as the most mashy Tekken game, and when a good Reina plays, it looks like she is mashing a lot but in reality it's just smart offense given how hard her kit is to open the opponent with the lack of good lows and tons of stance transitions
Not thinking Kaz is as honest as folks say is valid. As a Kaz main 50/50s def arent honest but also honesty is a myth in fighting games, its just an excuse people make to say why theyre better even tho they lost. Kaz ain't honest, he's straightforward. There's a big difference.
Nah straightforward would be him having two lows, one that launches but super minus on block and the other is a poke that's like -3 on block. THAT is straightforward.
@@Geheimnis-c2e bro what you said would make Kazuya top 1, at the moment Kazuya is the balanced version of what you described: Hellsweep is a situational wallsplat launcher which gets even more combo oportunities depending on stage and position during heat and db4 is a "safe" (-12, not launchable but you can still punish with WR4) low poke that gives good plus frames on hit and counterhit.
he has great neutral, grapples, lows mids and highs, fast moves, grabs that do like 60% of your hp, that new running stance that can even be done after heat that has an untechable grab. Countless shit. He did not need overtuning he was already op.
@Xraypc king is one of the most unsafe characters to play dude. Go play king in ranked right now. See if shit doesnt get sweaty af by orange to red ranks. King dies to mashers.
The risk reward on his grabs are kinda really good. some of his grabs don't have a readable animation to inform you how to break. the startup frames are fast making you need to hard read a duck. and that's it. you are only able to hard read and duck punish. you can't side step. once grabbed you are kind of in a 33/33/33 chance. and if you break a grab, there is no punish. he will just go for another grab. a single input that will take 60% of your life bar. The throw damage is insane. Sure, I get it that he's bad in high level play, but purple ranks and below, he's kind of a menace.
I might be biased but ever since jin became easy hitting eletrics with him doesn't feel good anymore compared to rest of the mishima's because of the auto eletrics
0:52 sad thing is that i only encountered a single jack-8. after a couple of weeks of playing, i never saw a single jack-8 ever again. Nowadays, I only encounter Paul, King, Hwoarang, Victor, Eddy, and Azucena users. Rarely any other characters and *NEVER* another Jack-8 user.
@@baconbitz7804 I main Jack and I don't mind if I lose or win; I would be glad I fought someone in a mirror match. Unfortunately, I never encountered a Jack user ever again. Shows the struggle of Tekken 8 Online, where you rarely see anyone else use the character you use.
@@Leon01922 I didn’t realize that you mained Jack. I had the same thing happen to me though. I heard the game deprioritizes mirror matches so that could be why
I met many Leo mains they usually good and not easy to use this character too but truth is not always find them in online match, because I find king and Reina more lately I met more Steve mains too .
there is one thing you missed about Paul, he is honest.....honestly kicking your ass and as a paul main that damage is a must in every game btw buff paul's damage back to how it was in tekken 5 sincerely a true paul main
As a Yoshi main, we're only respectful to other Yoshis. 90% of the time we're out there purposely giving yall aneurysm if you're not using Yoshi against us
As an Eddy player my boy finally got sauced up and became top tier after scraping by in 7, but why did they give him that 3 masher it gives us an even worse name just for it to be useless past red ranks
As person who just installed the game (never played any fightings games seriously). I decided to pick Azucena for the beginning, and after 1st match I immediately understood - “Oh, I see why ppl hate her”
King is such a broken character, there’s nothing i can do. Except duck, block, counter hit, put him in hit stun, power crush and listen to every audio cue he gives and look at his telegraphed moves. -every button masher ever
@@Itsasnackwrap since thats the case, thats why you dont listen to tierlists from lower rank players, and why it only means the majority of players doesnt know what they are talking about
As a Hwoarang main, i can confirm that i do not know what the word "Neutral" means. What is this foreign concept you speak of? I only know of the buttons 3, 4, are absolute and must be pressed at all times in quick sucession
Uninstall after hwaong kicks me from one side of a boat to another then he throw out hits with no window for for a counter hit pretty over this game to be real
I wanted to play Hwoarang because I could make him look like my character but then everyone started playing him and then I saw Dragunov and thought he looked pretty cool, and then I heard he was meta but i didn’t choose him due to meta I chose him because I thought he looked pretty cool. But I understand the hate
@@HKExzyabsolutely right, play whoever Suits your fancy and don't look back. I used to play SC competitively and there was a Clear distinction between my Character and others. It's not about who you play, it's about how. I play a lot of mid to low tier characters and I participated in more than a few tournaments. You can overcome even a Stupid tool kit by just really understanding the MU. At the end of the day, everyone has the same ability to learn and adapt.
Funny how you say drag mains are braindead. Meanwhile Im here, maining Dragunov, grinding my gears trying to punish an opponent but always failing defense. 😭😭😭😭😭😭
I faced a claudo main who one and doned me and had the nerve to say I was spamming armored moves when in fact there are no rules in a fighting game..got my account suspended on my xbox and everything. He had the nerve to say gg to me and say git gud I hate claudo mains now. Just for this reason. I’ve fought two claudios..in total. You deserve nothing for breakfast and at the bottom of the ocean as your bed room.
as a representative of the 6 in total Claudio mains, that man is banished from Italy and was subjected to seeing people break spaghetti in half. Hope you forgive us.
This is the most accurate tier list I've seen even tho u playing around this was amazing I main jun and I love the fact u had the spin the wheel on her just becuase u didn't know I'm kishin jun main and I promise she is not that easy or common it's funny seeing everyone cry about her tho
Is this valid hate 🤔
As someone who doesn't play tekken... Yes?
Nah plug Jin should be in annoying af
As a kuma player, probably. I be doing some dumbass shit in ranked
Everyone except for Paul. The guy is quite slow. (Should be put one or two tiers lowers) but I can see why tho.
its valid, good video
As a Jin main that absolutely despises Reina the mutual hate is respectful
Ngl I took “fake Mishima” personally lmao
Could say the same for Reina with her easy 15 or 16 frame launcher she also has a easy mode electric but everyone says Jin is a fake Mishima when he as a character doesn’t embrace the Mishima style at least not 100%
@@Bloodhound_214 you can only electric out of df3 during heat. easy electrics during heat is a shared mishima trait and wave dash isn't the difficult part. df3 is really only a factor at beginner level where people aren't going to know how to place electrics properly anyway.
@@Bloodhound_214 Devil Jin has d3+4 and Jin has it too and they both had it for a while. People are not calling Jin a fake Mishima for this though, he simply does not play like a Mishima and doesn't have neither the advantages nor the disadvantages Mishimas have. Reina is borderline a Mishima, especially since her flash punch doesn't lead to knockdown (Heihachi's used to wallsplat too).
Also all Electrics are easy mode on heat, if you fail the just frame they still come out as Electrics but they cost heat meter. Jin is the ONLY character that can get his just frame move out without needing to time it correctly and without heat, using his new df2 stance transition.
@@georgegkoumas5026 yeah I see a lot of people saying that df 2 gives you free electrics and it does I guess it’s because I’m thinking everyone plays Jin like me jin is not a Mishima he changed his fighting style to not be a Mishima every character that has an electric gets it for free in heat the df2 into electrics is mostly a gimmick when you can actually do electrics you don’t need that gimmick
"you might be a bit racist" is an insane tier name.
That feel when you main Yoshimitsu and Jin. Am I the bad guy?
every race is racist we all think about it but Reina/lili is more annoying/hard tho imo
Think it basically means
"Couldnt figure out why dislike, but dislike anyway"
he's not wrong tho
Called Jin a fake Mishima but Reina the soul of the game💀
He's Kazama, not Mishima
I mean jin doesn't really have a normal electric
To be fair, Jin isn’t exactly a pure Mishima but he’s considered an exception. CD+4 is slower than the other Mishimas (20f for jin and 16 for the other mishimas.) He doesn’t have an electric wind god fist - he has an electric wind HOOK fist. Does not have the usual 112 flash punch.
Reina is basically like heihachi with obvious differences.
@@re-gaming3913he does but it’s unfortunately locked behind omen
If you think about it, he's telling the truth. Tekken 8 is focused heavily on offense and using your own bullshit before your opponent uses their bullshit. But Reina, while not being the hardest Mishima is still a very hard character. Lots of people describe Tekken 8 as the most mashy Tekken game, and when a good Reina plays, it looks like she is mashing a lot but in reality it's just smart offense given how hard her kit is to open the opponent with the lack of good lows and tons of stance transitions
As a Claudio main, I too forget my character is real.
It’s a nice feeling when you vs someone who’s never vs’d a Claudio tho
Twins bruh
@@Duckbomba So like... 4/5 games
You all are like unicorns 🤣😭
You when a Mishima 50/50s: 😃
You when anyone else 50/50s: 😡
garyu shit tbh, he's very biased by his low skill level
Lars: no one knows what you doing and neither do you 😂😂
As a Lars main, I'm fully aware of what I'm doing... Until I'm not. "In order to mix your opponents you must first mix yourself Lars 2024"
Believe me I know what I'm doing in neutral, it's when I'm doing a combo that I start doing some BS. Gotta get to 80+ damage and set up for OKI.
It is always the own main, that gets the special treatment.
Not thinking Kaz is as honest as folks say is valid. As a Kaz main 50/50s def arent honest but also honesty is a myth in fighting games, its just an excuse people make to say why theyre better even tho they lost.
Kaz ain't honest, he's straightforward. There's a big difference.
Yeah I can agree that he isn’t honest but we def gotta work a lil harder than a most of the cast 😭😭
Nah straightforward would be him having two lows, one that launches but super minus on block and the other is a poke that's like -3 on block. THAT is straightforward.
there's nobody honest in this game
@@Geheimnis-c2ethere is not one single low in the game that is not punishable on block that would be the most broken shit
@@Geheimnis-c2e bro what you said would make Kazuya top 1, at the moment Kazuya is the balanced version of what you described: Hellsweep is a situational wallsplat launcher which gets even more combo oportunities depending on stage and position during heat and db4 is a "safe" (-12, not launchable but you can still punish with WR4) low poke that gives good plus frames on hit and counterhit.
jin a fake mishima but reina is the soul of the game ☠️
I will say, regardless of his actual power level, i do find it funny that a lot of hate against King boils down to "mfw the grappler grapples me"
he has great neutral, grapples, lows mids and highs, fast moves, grabs that do like 60% of your hp, that new running stance that can even be done after heat that has an untechable grab. Countless shit. He did not need overtuning he was already op.
@@Xraypc people will say shit like this and then we will never see a king in top 4 for all of tekken 8's life cycle
@@Xraypc my guy duck. Actually as a matter of fact watch high level tekken 8
@Xraypc king is one of the most unsafe characters to play dude. Go play king in ranked right now. See if shit doesnt get sweaty af by orange to red ranks. King dies to mashers.
The risk reward on his grabs are kinda really good. some of his grabs don't have a readable animation to inform you how to break. the startup frames are fast making you need to hard read a duck. and that's it. you are only able to hard read and duck punish. you can't side step. once grabbed you are kind of in a 33/33/33 chance. and if you break a grab, there is no punish. he will just go for another grab. a single input that will take 60% of your life bar. The throw damage is insane. Sure, I get it that he's bad in high level play, but purple ranks and below, he's kind of a menace.
Aye we can comment so Imma rewatch again
W man’s fr
As a yoshie main I have never been called out this accurate before, it's almost scary
Not my man Jin being called fake 😭
Tbh that auto electric and insanity 😭 idk why they even gave bro that on top of being safe on a good amount of shit
as a Jin main that shit never hits bro only way to get it is to learn pwgf
I might be biased but ever since jin became easy hitting eletrics with him doesn't feel good anymore compared to rest of the mishima's because of the auto eletrics
I never hit anyone with the easy electric because everyone ducks when i enter that stance
@@timezone6094 The 'auto' electrics are from stance. You can't use that shit in the open. You still need to do proper electrics
0:52
sad thing is that i only encountered a single jack-8. after a couple of weeks of playing, i never saw a single jack-8 ever again.
Nowadays, I only encounter Paul, King, Hwoarang, Victor, Eddy, and Azucena users. Rarely any other characters and *NEVER* another Jack-8 user.
If you fight a really good Jack you’ll you’ll wish they were playing victor
@@baconbitz7804 I main Jack and I don't mind if I lose or win; I would be glad I fought someone in a mirror match.
Unfortunately, I never encountered a Jack user ever again. Shows the struggle of Tekken 8 Online, where you rarely see anyone else use the character you use.
@@Leon01922 I didn’t realize that you mained Jack. I had the same thing happen to me though. I heard the game deprioritizes mirror matches so that could be why
Reina is Definitely CARRIED MASHERS
Can’t tolerate kuma disrespect
Reina main calling hwoarang players mashers is HILARIOUS 😂😂😂
He still ain't wrong, tbh.
LMFAOOO NAH THE KUMA SLANDER AT THE END CRzy
My boy Leo survives let’s go
I met many Leo mains they usually good and not easy to use this character too but truth is not always find them in online match, because I find king and Reina more lately I met more Steve mains too .
1:08 you forgot to mention half of the Dragunov mains came from tiktok/instagram. New players essentially
cant do a brother like that man. but damn does eddy piss me off.
as a dragonov main, I wanna do the iron curtain to everyone irl
😟
there is one thing you missed about Paul, he is honest.....honestly kicking your ass
and as a paul main that damage is a must in every game
btw buff paul's damage back to how it was in tekken 5
sincerely a true paul main
4:01 saying this as a reina main might be the funniest thing ive ever seen in tekken youtube
PHS: *has a Mishima bias
Also PHS: *proceeds to diss half of the playable Mishima characters
Damn I was waiting on Bryan. Maybe for the best he got skipped 💀
No opinion about nina or xiao is insane
I'm saying lol
As a Yoshi main, we're only respectful to other Yoshis. 90% of the time we're out there purposely giving yall aneurysm if you're not using Yoshi against us
fully agree
Nah I'm respectful to everyone. Its all love out here with me.
But the SECOND you ki-charge me, oh yea buddy youre cooked🙏
As a Yoshi main I’m like a dolphin 🐬. Some days I’m respectful some days I’m bored and feel like trolling
This video was hilarious, also the circle pit in the lounge was fire lol.
This is the best Tier-List i've seen so far! Exactly my toughts.
The Panda Category is hillarious! 😂
Eddie hate is just universal at this point
As a hwoarang main. I have already broken my ankle sooooo
As a Paul main, why did the room look aight to me?
As a Panda main, I must agree, I do things
as a jun main you're... honestly right LMAO
As a kazuya man no matter how much Yi dislike jin t8, I have to say hes so perfect
Now this is an honest tierlist
YOU DID NOT JUST SKIP MY MAIN MAN CLAUDIO
Thank you for validating my experience. I feel seen. Good stuff.
This might be the most valid Tekken tierlist I've seen. Subscribed. 😂
Hell ya 😂
Us Jin mains must stand up against this slander
War criminal
Fake
the law one is accurate lmaoo
As an Eddy player my boy finally got sauced up and became top tier after scraping by in 7, but why did they give him that 3 masher it gives us an even worse name just for it to be useless past red ranks
not all jack players are franky and i stand to show that
As a Kaz main I hate fighting Reina so much it's crazy but playing her is fun kinda...
As person who just installed the game (never played any fightings games seriously). I decided to pick Azucena for the beginning, and after 1st match I immediately understood - “Oh, I see why ppl hate her”
Steve main here, interested to see what my boy gets
Sike we have been forgotten
when you find out Pauls the most honest
actually king is the most honest character in the game. nothing about him is broken or op
- Garyu King Player
Also knew king players were delusional 😭
everyone just mad bc they don't figure out how to break his throws
King is such a broken character, there’s nothing i can do. Except duck, block, counter hit, put him in hit stun, power crush and listen to every audio cue he gives and look at his telegraphed moves.
-every button masher ever
@@ZodiacagegamingBlock against a grappler?
Bruh imma be honest, considering your rank, your list is either scrubby, invalid, or only applies to low ranks, pick one
You know in almost every fighting game, the majority of players are lower ranks right?
@@Itsasnackwrap since thats the case, thats why you dont listen to tierlists from lower rank players, and why it only means the majority of players doesnt know what they are talking about
Not my main claudio getting cast away like that
It just seems like everyone is annoying to play or worse
Giving eddie his own tier made me more proud to be an eddie main💀
As a Claudio main seeing him be skipped over hurts more than being called a b1 and hopkick spammer. 10/10 you got me good.
I can respect the Paul hate as a paul main but you kinda realize his toolkit without damage is more plain than white bread
As a Hwoarang main, i can confirm that i do not know what the word "Neutral" means. What is this foreign concept you speak of? I only know of the buttons 3, 4, are absolute and must be pressed at all times in quick sucession
As a Claudio main, damn...
I was waiting for my Bryan
As a lili main i see this as a win but this was funny asf especially the eddy part 😂
Uninstall after hwaong kicks me from one side of a boat to another then he throw out hits with no window for for a counter hit pretty over this game to be real
Claudio mains can eat a glizzy too 🤣they share the same braincell as paul, how we all got over 100 moves and everybody uses the same damn string
Yes Hwo is a noob killer. But boy do we work MUCH harder than most at the Bushin+ lvl
Honestly, I'm a Zafina main and everytime I encounter a zafina or a claudio I'm still like "who tf are you again?"
I also get furious foe no read whenever a Jin lands a hit
0:03 That customization aged poorly
this legit just a ranked climbing tier list
The Eddie Tier is real!!!
bro dropped babytron lyrics on eddy
As long as u put King as more annoying than Hwo I'm good. But where's my ki charge clip on yo ass?
I got sum for your ass
Victor players get a 5 star bedroom (I'm a Victor main)
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUCK NO
Dragunov is a fair and honest character. I work so hard to counter hit while running 2 someone for 150 damage.
Well since you didnt cover steve my other main is kazuya so.... Im goated?
After watching this vid I am now aware of the fact I am a lego muncher 💀
I wanted to play Hwoarang because I could make him look like my character but then everyone started playing him and then I saw Dragunov and thought he looked pretty cool, and then I heard he was meta but i didn’t choose him due to meta I chose him because I thought he looked pretty cool. But I understand the hate
I played him in tekken 7 now I can’t even play him without feeling bad
Don't fell sorry for playing any character. There always will be a meta in fgc and endless salt about X character.
@@HKExzyabsolutely right, play whoever Suits your fancy and don't look back. I used to play SC competitively and there was a Clear distinction between my Character and others. It's not about who you play, it's about how. I play a lot of mid to low tier characters and I participated in more than a few tournaments. You can overcome even a Stupid tool kit by just really understanding the MU. At the end of the day, everyone has the same ability to learn and adapt.
Funny how you say drag mains are braindead. Meanwhile Im here, maining Dragunov, grinding my gears trying to punish an opponent but always failing defense. 😭😭😭😭😭😭
Yes , Leo is rare to find o.o if u find some they usually good or enjoying game like me with elegant outfits .
As a Hwaorang main can confirm I fucking hate be other hworang mains, their just better at mashing than I am
Me a Jun main : "my time has come"
As victor a main, i fucking hate that man.... Said that i'll keep playing him
As a king main who plays azucena and law I love this
I made Jack-8 look like Johnny Bravo
I faced a claudo main who one and doned me and had the nerve to say I was spamming armored moves when in fact there are no rules in a fighting game..got my account suspended on my xbox and everything. He had the nerve to say gg to me and say git gud I hate claudo mains now. Just for this reason. I’ve fought two claudios..in total.
You deserve nothing for breakfast and at the bottom of the ocean as your bed room.
as a representative of the 6 in total Claudio mains, that man is banished from Italy and was subjected to seeing people break spaghetti in half. Hope you forgive us.
Yo this is my first vid from you. It was so gas I had to drop a sub. You should definitely do a part two
Saw the Dragunov slander from a mile out😭
dude I played dee jay in sf6 and I was so close to picking azucena 😭
this vid funny asf lol
Ma boi Kazuya The soul of the game! As always ❤❤❤
Great video bruv, i m looking forward 2 part 2
3:03 was so funny tears came out of my eyes from laughing
Brother, wait til you fight DVJ. Autistic Heat Smash spam will ensue
never agreed with a tier list more than this one, good job. (Reina and Jack main)
As a Jin main, I'll take it 😂
I made this almost exact tier list and posted it in a Facebook group. It wasn't taken well.
OCTOPATH TRAVELLER music I hear at the beginning, very nice :3
Having no opinion about Xiaoyu is wild
Yoshi mains deserve no food and should live in a run down apartment with no electricity and or clean water.
TRUER WORDS HAVE NEVER BEEN SPOKEN. This list is facts
This is the most accurate tier list I've seen even tho u playing around this was amazing I main jun and I love the fact u had the spin the wheel on her just becuase u didn't know I'm kishin jun main and I promise she is not that easy or common it's funny seeing everyone cry about her tho
Claudio player here, and yeah were not real. What youre currently reading is a figment of your imagination
I c1me here to see how much your hate of King would make me smile. And you satiated me, thx dude. X)