The Problems With Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth
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- Опубліковано 29 чер 2024
- A Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth review, of sorts.
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I, for one, think pickles are super gross and I can't stand the taste of them.
...you monster.
Unsubbed 😞
Based pickles are pretty nasty
I take them out of my burgers when I forget to say no pickles
Are pickles in FF13?… is that why you won’t acknowledge it🤣
ProJared will find literally anything to review that's not FF13
Easy to do, when you just make up a game like that. There was no Final Fantasy 13.
@@Bananahammock681”there is no war in ba sing se”
Good!
@@Bananahammock681 There is a real FF13, it's called Lost Odyssey.
Solo FF Tactics review when?
Moral of the story: No half-measures, Walter.
I used to think Sylvia in the Pickles comic was hot.
Someone is into single moms.
Hey there, Tim! I knew if I looked deep into the bathroom I would find your comment on a ProJared video!
"Cloud, your Pickle!"
"Ate it, I know, moving on"
"Shall I give you dis pickle?" - Sephiroth
No but have seen the cup noodle commercial
@@danielleon5928”I shall bring you Donbei.”
@@dablazingbryan5559 oh god its happening again
Remake Sephiroth when he sees Cloud.
Aerith: "shall I give you this chair?"
We lost Now In The 90s but get more Projared content. It's bittersweet.
Yeah
HopefuIIy he gained some working consistently experience and we'll be having a lot of good content here in the future. (Cope)
I’d rather get more Now in the 90s. It was like my comfort food that I just kinda got used to being there, reminding me of all the cool gaming memories I remember living through in the 90s. I had gaming magazines back then and loved games, so the series was so perfect for me. A perfect hit of nostalgia, that for some reason stupid me just assumed would continue through 2029 so we could relive PlayStation, N64, Saturn, Dreamcast and more. The format for the show was so freaking cool. I hope someone else rips off the idea and creates something similar. It was just such a sweet trip down memory lane.
We didn't lose now in the 90s, it has its own channel now.
@@talktimegamers9184 they arent doing any more now in the 90s content, they're shuttering the channel because it underperformed and didnt make good money.
I just hate that stupid multiverse thing they’re doing. If it wasn’t for that, these remakes would be amazing to me
What’s wrong with the pickleverse?
Same,of all the changes they could cook up, why a freaking multiverse!!?
I like the scene where Sephiroth gives Cloud a pickle
Chadley constantly popping up was annoying, especially during that really weird Pickles mission
Wasn't it a pear?
The better scene is when Sephiroth turns Zack into a pickle for the the final boss and Zack yells IM A PICKLE CLOUD. IM PICKLE ZACK before doing his limit break
I don't think Reds personality changes as much as you say it does. In the first half you can always see him trying and failing to hide his childishness, like in his first sidequest or when they arrive at gold saucer. He still gives input post Cosmo Canyon he's just not hiding his inexperience, his heightened connection to the planet is still important. It definitely took some getting used to for the voice though.
dude his combat lines
He basically like cloud in the first half, trying so hard to be cool but constantly failing at it. You can see the hint the he is faking the "wise" persona through all of it. And like you said, he still has those knowledge and he can be playful like changing to his "wise" voice like in the pirate sidequest.
@@staticbystandermark1 I'm actually curious about that. There is some optional content that's available before Cosmo Canyon that I didn't complete until after Cosmo Canyon, and he actually used his "kid" voice in those scenes. I wonder if they actually recorded 2 takes for if you complete that optional content before/after Cosmo Canyon?
@bvoyelr Yeah they did record 2 different voices depending on where you are in the story.
@@bvoyelr They did that in the original game too, although obviously it wasn't voice acted. It also didn't make it through translation.
I'm from Pittsburgh and we have a Picklefest every year. You should come visit!
Even if you’re not a fan of pickles (me, went with my family) there’s lots of great other stuff too!
This video dropped literally 5 minutes after I finally watched the credits on my first play through…. Talk about timing!
You are in the projared time line
@@gregbrown6921As are we all
Pickles are pretty good.
The best conversation in the game was the one between Cloud and Barrett in the Gold Saucer. You all know it probably. You know, the one about the pickles?
Wait. Do they really have a conversation about pickles or did you just say that for the joke?
When Barret mentions "all the pickles on this giant @&#% pizza" I was confused, but then I remembered that cactuars are really just abnormally large mutated cucumbers after all
14:46 Hold on... is that Aerith on a segway? I can handle Sephiroth turning himself into a pickle, but that's where I draw the line.
Come on Master Chief, lets get the fuck outta here.
2:21 I read Thunderpeck as Thundercock and thought that's what they named the cockatrice
Accurate
IDK how well this works for this game, but in Zelda Tears of the Kingdom I experimented with purposely turning off the mini-map UI and avoiding the towers that filled in the overworld map. I found it really changed my experience with open world game design for the better.
I started taking better notice of my surroundings and the subtlety's in how things were laid out to help you navigate and discover things. Areas I might have described as empty or boring before suddenly became interesting as even something like a change in elevation altered my ability to navigate the world. I suddenly became more aware of the subtle differences between seemingly copy/paste content (this bokoblin camp has a ledge I can exploit, this one has some boulders, etc.) and these things became a lot more interesting. The difference in discovering this content through natural exploration instead of trying to check off EVERY SINGLE box also played a big role in preventing burnout and letting me move on at my own pace. I didn't find nearly everything, sure, but it turns out you really never needed to and modern game UI's just condition you into thinking you do. If anything this just makes your experienced more personalized and interesting.
Admittedly, I think Zelda TotK is better designed around this than many other open-world games (in fact, I honestly feel like BotW and TotK were MEANT to be played without a map sometimes), but when the option is available I definitely consider turning off as much of the navigation and quest UI as possible these days.
Super interesting. I gotta try this sometime
It sort of works well in this game too. Aside from maybe in the grasslands which felt a tad too big for its own good for a first region.
I guess we're so used to hand-holding that we hold it against the game when it for a moment doesn't do so. Gongaga region is mostly jungle, I think it being harder to navigate is part of the charm.
Damn bro you’re right!!!! brings a different feel and keeps its exciting because you can’t wait to find a area and special items and equipment also keeps you very sharp it challenges you
Pickle materia when?
They have the summon fat chocobo. so YES summon pickle.
I think one parallel timeline where Zack lives is all that we needed. The fact this went full on multiverse is just so convoluted and has lowered my excitement for part 3.
I feel the same way. Just because a story is complex and convoluted doesn’t make it good/clever. Only reason I’m excited about pt 3 is the combat.
If I were to play rebirth again I would completely ignore all the side content.
Yup thats what i wanted. Just the one Zack timelime. Was so excited. Then the multiverse deflated me
Cry babies
Something you didn't cover directly that I found extremely annoying with the game was the forced waiting. Every single time you completed or progressed a quest or objective, you had to wait for the objective UI to do its thing. You then had to wait for Chadley or whoever to contact you... followed by maybe another contact. You have to wait to get on/off the buggy. You have to wait to do turns on the chocobo from standing still. You have to essentially move at a crawl pace for some quests. Like the chickens in Gongaga, protorelic where you had to follow/push the robed guys, etc.
On it's own, in an individual sense, not a big deal. Towards the end of the game though, you're gonna notice it. This is especially true if you do most of the side content, regardless of when you choose to. It would be a non-issue if the waiting was a one-time thing, where subsequent occasions allowed you to move around. There were just so many small annoyances that it basically amounted to a landfill of them.
This is what happens when you give consoles an SSD. People forget what waiting over a minute in a loading screen was like.
@@JenovaGirzz Devs generally didn't make games that had so many quest completed/updated notifications back then either though. My complaint isn't about load time. It's about unnecessary pauses. If they don't utilize techs strengths (and limitations) appropriately, that's almost never a good thing. If you're trying to say those update locks are because of loading requirements, then that's an even worse standing for them lol.
yeah having to hear the world intel or quest completion jingle every single time gets old.
Some of this annoyed me too. But I will give the game credit for making it quicker to get on your chocobo than in ff16.
And those mog minigames, man sooo frustrating
Happy to see your posting again! I went though your catalog a few years back and ran out of reviews!
I've read and heard so many reviews that say the World Intel can be done in an hour or two per region, and for the life of me, I think we should start including an additional line to that statement. "And although you *can* you probably won't" because not one single region took me less than at least 3, with an average being 4-5 hours. Between navigating the Terrain x Map, redoing Battle intel to satisfy annoying conditions, clearing cache locations, side quests, etc., it's just not feasible for anyone to do all World Intel in a region in just 1 or 2 hours without knowing the game like the back of your hand. I admit, I take my time, but getting through everything on those "sprint" days still took hours. Especially Gongaga.
Title made it seem more negative then I thought. It's far from perfect but still ended up being one of my favorite games. The things it does good, it does so good.
Glad to see the review brother!
Thanks for continuing your videos!! Big fan!!
Bro that part in the game where cloud starts eating pickles was my favorite
I think a fair point to be made about Nanaki is that he barely has any notable dialogue after Cosmo Canyon in the original game, so the tone shift is not something people would have remembered that much. He has an incidental line here or there and that's kind of it. The significant dialogue he _does_ have (if you ask him to hold the Black Materia, or when Bugenhagen "goes away") definitely does show how young he is.
Very fair review. The game is amazing and it's baffling how they were able to make it but it also has some odd decisions and your point about the ending putting people too much in logic mode trying to understand is one I hadn't thought about before and is valid, the writers and directors (cause there are multiple not just Nomura) I think definitely have a point to all this and aren't just writing random shit as they go for pure shock value but they have an issue of too much showing and not enough telling which has created a feeling of dissatisfaction from all sides. Purists are foaming at the mouth, theorists are all trying to scrape together all the information they can find and dissecting each frame trying to make sense of what they just watched and overall everyone is just confused. Remake also introduced a lot of questions and left a lot of intrigue for people to speculate on but it was a lot more clear than Rebirth.
It's widely accepted that the confusing ending is because Cloud is our POV and his brain is soup at this point in the game making him an extremely unreliable narrator and things should be a lot clearer in Part 3 which should retroactively improve the ending of Rebirth.
I wasn't in logic mode when I saw it, I was in shock, and was a little confused at first, but still saddened, only afterwards did I actually enter logic mode. I think I've cracked the code for what's going on in the ending, but we won't know for sure until Part 3, and also I think they're saving some of the stuff from that scene we didn't see/hear in Rebirth, but we did see in the OG, for Part 3.
This is why splitting to different parts is a really bad idea and just hurts more than it helps. Splitting it like this makes things confusing and convoluted with little to no answers, if it was a single seamless game we wouldn't have had this problem and the story would be much more coherent, it also doesn't help that the split makes the whole remake feels rushed.
@@TheCheeseMovesSideways The game would take forever to finish, take forever to release, and would be too big for consoles like this if it was just one game. And the split is actually more interesting because it opens up the possibility for MORE things to happen that didn't in the OG.
@@mariogirl8100 I didn't exactly say the split was awful but what i meant was the split hurts the story more than it does good. I know splitting it was necessary but still it doesn't really help much with the story imo
The answers will be in the last game lmao how can you idiots no comprehended that
7:54 - 8:24 Makes me think of Tales of Arise, how every single side quest specifically has two party members interacting, and they'll have moments of character buildup, backstory elements, and moments of friendship. I like that a lot
So glad I binged all your VODs before this came out
Suddenly I have a craving for pickles.
This is a fantastic review and 80% of the video is you being positive about the game. I did not expect that from the title as I thought you were going to rip into it the whole way through 😅. But yeah this is one of the better reviews I've watched. Keep it up
Great to see a new Jared upload, sorry about Now in the 90s. However, great vid.
You nailed my thoughts on how it ended.
Pros: Basically everything about the game (IMO including the ending, since the emotional farewell is already given to you in different scenes beside the infamous death scene.)
Cons: Cait Sith's dungeon. Chadley needs to STFU.
I know a lot of people were harping on the ending, but after rewatching it a few times… I’m honestly terrified for Cloud and loved it.
Like it went from being bittersweet and a little sad to straight up dark as hell. At least if you consider the theory *its not Aerith*
Game has small hiccups but overall an amazing game.
kinda hope Chadley call pickup is optional. so if we didn't pick up his call, he will send message for us to read it later. Just like in Yakuza.
Am I the only person that actually likes Chadley?
This. I have more of a problem with them messing up the atmosphere of Shinra Mansion than I did with anything in the actual ending.
Pickles is right here - the ending’s execution left me not feeling what I thought it would, because of *how* it was executed. Instead of being ready to feel something, I was put in a place to try and understand something going on.
And you’d think I’d have been ready for this, given Nomura’s Kingdom Hearts-heavy hand, but yet here I am. Great review!
Man, I'm a bit stoned off of some Gysahl Green Pickles right now, but it's damn good to see you do what you do best.
Mighty glad to see you once more, ProJared!
I like pickles on my burgers 🤣
I agree that for the most part they didn't drag out parts unnecessarily like they did in Remake. The only place of the top of my head that overstayed it's welcome in my opinion was the temple of the ancients. There was a couple of other places but they aren't as bad. I also agree with what you said about the ending too
More Queen's Blood. Please Squeenix.
Even though I play board games in real life quite a bit, I usually do not like card minigames in video games. Even Witcher 3 Gwent was overhyped in my opinion. But Queens Blood worked for me big time, I loved it!
Devs legit made a Yu-Gi-Oh! level storyline for it and it’s good. Madlads
Fantastic game. Really mind-blowing! I have watched your channel since you started and I really liked that you joined Final FanTV last episode. It was fun!
Would love to see more videos covering newly released RPGs like this one. PLEASE, please give us more ProJared videos.
This game felt like I was in a pickle with the combat a lot of the times. But I did like the new quick block mechanic that negates damage.
You cannot run from your destiny for long, ProJared. Lightning is waiting.
Great video, definitely hit a bunch of points I also felt throughout my playthrough. Unrelated remember gyshal pickles? Wow those things are stinky.
The funny thing about his critique about the ending is that according to the Ultimania interview, that's the response they were actually going for.
Honey wake up, ProJared uploaded
Jared in the thumbnail reminds me of Link before he puts on the fire suit 😂
*13 Minigames in FFVII PS1 (From the moment you leave Midgar to Aeris's Impalement)
Fort Condor, Junon March, Speed Square Roller Coaster, Battle Square Arena, Wonder Square: Super Dunk, Arm Wrestling, Wonder Catcher, G-Bike, 3D-Battler & Mog House, Chocobo Square Racing, Date Sequence, Bone Village Excavation
*23 Minigames in FFVII Rebirth PS5
(Minigames that were in the PS1 version)
Piano (techinally it was in the PS1 version but you only get a gil when playing on Tifa's piano, when you're not in the flashback), 3D Brawler (3D-Battler), Chocobo Race (Chocobo Square Racing), G-Bikes (G-Bike), Musclehead Colosseum (Battle Square Arena), Junon Parade (Junon March), Fort Condor, Moogle Mischief (technially this is Mog House)
(Minigames that were exclusively made for Rebirth)
Queen's Blood, Desert Rush, Dolphin Show, Jumpfrog, Pirate's Rampage, Run Wild, Galactic Saviors, Crunch-Off, Minecart Adventure, Hustle de Chocobo, Wheelie Rendezvous, Cactuar Caper, Cactuar Crush, Glide de Chocobo, Gears and Gambits, Moogle Mischief
I don't appreciate them stretching their game out by putting in minigames that weren't in the original (there weren't that many minigames in the PS1 version, calm it down) and making the story so convoluted to the point it becomes pretentious/superficial. Aerith's death in this game didn't work because "they had their cake ate it to"...so what was the point?
I have always been a huge fan of the OG game and being able to explore the regions in greater detail was a real treat. Plus, the combat was fun and deck building card games are my jam.
Regarding RED XIII’s change, I was generally thrown off by it too and not sure if it added anything. However, I do believe the writers may have had a deeper meaning behind it. When Aerith first encounters Red in Hojo’s lab their encounter gives Red a vision and he gains an ability similar to Aerith, the ability to understand the nature of the whispers and how fate was meant to play out as well as an almost prophetic ability. Aerith gives this same insight to Marlene when they meet, and in both cases Aerith was trying to show them she could be trusted.
I believe this gave Red the perspective an older and wiser being than he really was, and so he was able to portray that without issue to the party. The problem is, when they defy fate at the end of Remake, Aerith and Red both lose their connection and memories of fate’s course as well as their seemingly prophetic abilities, they discuss this together in Kalm when we first hear the voice of Nanaki the teen wolf, lol. Red keeps up the charade of the old wisened sage but once he is back home the veil drops and he no longer feels the need to pretend after that.
Long story short, contextually one can argue that Red’s old and wise persona was actually backed up by Aerith’s influence over him and when they defied fate it was only a matter of time before Red stopped pretending.
Also, I like Claussen pickles.
Nah, I think Nanaki was just trying to sound cool. Like in the original, you kind of get the sense he’s older, until you go to cosmo canyon. Then you find out he’s actually like, a teenager. In rebirth when the girls ask how they look in their beachwear, his real voice accidentally slips out for just a moment. He was caught off guard lol.
...An interesting and somewhat convoluted theory, but no. It was the Remake project's take on how in the OG version Red's speech pattern becomes more like a teenager or child once he's back home and in familiar territory. That's the moment where we're meant to realize that Red is much younger than he seems. He's been somewhat reserved up until that point because he's unfamiliar and uncomfortable with the world outside of Cosmo Canyon, and he projects an air of wisdom both to hide his inexperience and because he believes that's how he should behave as an adult. In the OG it's just a slightly different pattern of speech, but in Rebirth for some reason they decided to have his entire persona and voice be an affectation that falls away once he's back home.
I love this content, this hysterical review format. Thanks for reinvigorating your channel again coming from Now in the 90s. Good shit ProJared 😊.
I fully endorse this review. I'm reeeaaally feeling the criticism on pace. The start/stop of Rebirth is a lot. And the multiverse thing is..... yikes. It's very telling that there's an option to completely skip the Zack cut scenes.
These were my exact feelings going through this game! Thanks for an excellent summary Jared.
I need to work more on my pickeling this week
I can dig any JRPG that want to give us more great side quest and mini games.
As long as it's optional, it doesn't hurt any pacing because we are the one that control the pacing
And same as Jared. I think the greatest character in Rebirth is Barret. Kudo to his VA too
I like pickle btw
This video hit so many of the same highlights, and negatives that I had playing this game! It was satisfying… like a fresh pickle!
I didn’t mind the Nanaki change and it’s alluded in the OG Japanese script he put an act of acting more mature than he is but that was lost in translation. He is my favorite party member and I get some people might find it jarring if they thought of him as “badass intellectual”. I like that him doing this also parallels Cloud putting up an act because of insecurity (for different reasons obviously) or the others doing the same in their own way. Goes with the theme of self acceptance the game has.
Great review! I haven’t been able to get it out of my mind since finishing, very few games do that to me and I feel the presentation is a big part of it even if does derivative stuff like the tower things.
Hell yeah new Jared upload it's gonna be a good day today. And also I will eat pickles today.
I find that Nanaki revealing his actual voice is something that was needed, though it can be confusing. Other than that 7 rebirth is a good adaptation except for the ending.
nah the ending rocked
Why is it needed? Red xiii's most endearing moments was with his older voice being a goofball. Things like the chicken quest and the boat appearance. His older voice would still work, he'd just be more vulnerable and naive.
Which is kinda weird in the first place. Nanaki is the oldest party member. He's 48 in human years. You'd think he'd have some more life experience. He also biologically is a full grown beast. There are 16 year olds who have deep booming voices. I think biologically, Nanaki would have a deep voice still. Not sound a few octaves away from Simba.
@@blankempathy Hey I'm 22 male and I sound like a woman. I felt not thought, Felt that it was necessary.
If you were to call me and I handed the phone to my mother or my aunt you could hardly tell a difference until Video call get pushed.
@@aaronammann4236 I mean of course it depends on a person's build and biology. You're probably not going to find too many 6'8" big dudes who have a high pitched voice.
Considering Nanaki is the tankiest character next to Barret, he's probably biologically close to a lion or other big cat/mammel.
The only thing I liked about it was Barrette's response, otherwise it just turned him into a comedic side comment... I prefer him being mature or at least faking to be.
Very refreshing to see someone express how I feel about the ending. All that I’ve seen online is how the ending was great and such, but I feel like they wanted to change it but couldn’t decide on the best way to do it so they just didn’t commit to anything. Ever since I finished the game, I’ve felt that it’s 95% pure bliss and enjoyment and that remaining 5% is the ending. Seeing all the info they’ve put out on the Ultimania has solidified my stance of not liking the ending at all. That said, I’m very excited for part 3.
He’s back! We missed you here on UA-cam!
Had stupid smile on my face when i seen gilgamesh and that ending fight 🔥
I accidentally dropped some pickle in my Hawaiian punch; I guess it is now trop-pickle.
The last chapter and the "shock" ending made me feel absolutely nothing. It's like they wanted both ways, but couldn't commit to one, so they wrote it into the story that both happen in two different timelines, and now we have to contend with Cloud's fuckery in part 3, which I just hate. Nothing has consequences because "anything can happen anytime it wants so nothing matters."
Man, this game looks fantastic, like a juicy pickle on a hot summer day. And that soundtrack is as satisfying as the crunch of a delicious pickle. Can’t wait for the next Pickle Fantasy video, Jerd
My main issue with this game is the moogle designs. F that. That was disturbing.
Everything else is just perfect for what I want in a game. This si exactly my type of game. Love the battle system, love thr story, I love exploration games (prior to this, forbidden west was my favorite open world game), the music is perfect and I love the sidequests.
I also loved Gongaga personally. I was hard to get around, but it's a jungle. I expect it to be and I just felt that added to it.
Oof, yeah. The moogle designs were not pleasant.
@@projared no. They just stare into your souls. I hated it.
Also as for the RedXiii in the next game and his point. The GI and black materia. He promised them (lying) to give them back the black materia. But also swore to the party he'd find another way to release them.
That will be his point in the last game.
I think
Who gave these moogles teeth 😬😬
@@projared I know. I did not like the way the moogles design looked at all, they went from cute and adorable to shocking and disturbingly staring into one’s soul. Big oof indeed.
Oh yeah as someone who plays FFXIV, the Moogles are fucking horrifying. I know they were trying to emulate the OG FFVII design but… god no
I think giving Cloud a pickle addiction was an odd choice
Yo, projared i enjoyed your stream other day
What a great video man, your critiques on both red and aerith are on point! This is one of the best games I’ve ever played and despite what it failed at, it was incredible at everything else, the characters, music and combat being its strongest points imho.
On a side note, can’t say I’m a fan of the post game difficulty. I’ve got the plat but it did cost me many points of my sanity 😂
Very well said Jared. I think you really nailed the exact feeling I had during the ending. It is going to be interesting revisiting this game with the context of the last game, but to your point, it shouldn't hinge on another game to make it work.
Just platinumed the game, 200 hours of pain, pleasure, setbacks and progress. My favourite game so far in 2024.
As for the ending; in my experience, the second entry in a trilogy always leaves the audience the hungriest, to pay things off in the final part, and I think it succeeded in that.
At the end of the day, Square could have made a lot more money much quicker if they just remastered the game, so I truly appreciate all that’s gone into this Remakeverse.
We shall see what the final entry brings, then we can judge this one’s ending in hindsight.
On Red’s voice, I wouldn’t be surprised if they planned to change his personality after ReMake came out. Him switching personalities so effortlessly was jarring and had a lack of character moments around it. That being said, I did end up liking it. It balances the party's personalities when VV joins with his supreme edgelordiness. And I wouldn’t say Red loses his wisdom and just asks questions. He was still the go-to for planetology stuff and the new backstory of the Gi and the Black Materia gave him more relevance to Rebirth’s plot.
Thanks for putting the spoiler warning in. I've avoided pretty much all FF7 Rebirth content since release, but I can't pass up a new ProJared video, so I'm glad I was able to cut to the end until I end up picking this one up. (After getting burned pre-ordering Remake on PS4 only to have every other console get bonus content shortly thereafter, I'm waiting until either the finale is released on PS5, or Rebirth is released on Steam, whichever comes first.)
I filled in all the dots before moving on to the next area... AND I LOVED IT.
Been waiting on this video
Can't agree more about your gripes with the ending. I was sitting there wondering why it wasn't really hitting as it should. I did play the OG back in the late 90s.
The problems with FF7 Rebirth:
No one:
Chadley: CLOUD!!!
He’s a tyrant!! He even soft locks the menu with his yapping
I even noticed that as other NPCs have binaural audio that faded as you walk away, Chadley's voice takes super long to fade out
I don't like how much Chadley is around in this. He's like the 10th party member that has everything you need to destroy anything in your wake but won't give it to you unless you go around doing tedious chores and errands, much like real life
Everytime I was in the simulator and wanted to change materia I gave up because you can’t talk to to him again until he finishes talking each single time you quit the simulator menu.
I preferred struggling hours with the inadequate equipment than listening to him 😂
I haven’t played Remake or Rebirth, but I knew that they would absolutely bungle the big Pickle scene. What made the original version so impactful was that we (as the audience) tried our best to stop Cloud from opening the Pickle Jar, only to be subverted and Big Mr. Pickle just came and opened it anyway. And we saw the entire thing. Nothing was off-screen.
It’s par for the course with Nomura’s work. The man struggles to commit to a cohesive story.
@CastorGaming pretty sure the WRITER of the game isn't Nomura, but Kazushige Nojima. Also Nomura wanted a 1:1 Remake, but the OG director and now producer of the game wanted some changes.
Nomura is the art director and character designer. He's not the director/project lead or the writer. He's actually never been credited with writing a single thing. I'm not sure why people blame him for everything. He's not the person in charge of these decisions ever.
@Kriizikaan He's the creative director lol. His name is at the top of the credits for Remake and Rebirth. He's literally said in interviews that he is responsible for the overall direction of the game
@@shiny460 Overall direction? you forgot the Writer and Scenario: Kazushige Nojima, and the original director and now Producer who has the final say and the one who wanted the changes: Yoshinori Kitase.
Great vid my guy! Say "fuzzy pickles"!
Thank you so much for making this video Jared! Not everyone can afford to have every kind of console or a gaming PC so this is the only way many of us get to enjoy this game at all.
What I didn't like was how in Remake we are told about changing fate and in rebirth... :(
This comment is going to have spoilers, so if you're not a fan of pickles you may want to stay away from this.
Red XIII's personality change is definitely very different, but I think they were trying to indicate something super super subtle between him & Cloud. There's this specific moment where the camera looks directly at Cloud's face contemplating something after the reveal of how old he is. It definitely felt like Cloud's view and opinion of Red changed from this wizened old man to the kid Cloud remembered being when joining Shinra. They were both young teens who wanted to do nothing but defend the people and community they cared about. And I feel like Cloud may need that person in the party to relate to when it comes to the 3rd game. I definitely hope they explore it a lot more coming up.
As for the ending, I completely agree with you. It was so hard to keep a track on what was happening, and I have a feeling it's because they intentionally wanted to give us the idea that we're experiencing it from cloud's perspective, and he will just make up stuff to cover the trauma. And I think they still could've nailed that feeling, but what they needed to do is play out the death exactly as it happened in 7, then later on let Cloud reminisce on the scene and throw all the glitchy stuff in his head, panning around to Aerith hanging out with the team next to the bronco. And you can still have the final fight happen almost identically to current Rebirth, with Aerith glitching into the astral plane with Cloud. Personally I think that would've really nailed exactly what they were trying to go for with this ending, rather than the incredibly confusing will they won't they that the game chose to do.
They couldn’t play out the death the same way because that makes remake pointless. In remake you beat the arbiters of fate and seemingly change aeirths fate as her death is one of the visions that gets changed which made me believe she wouldn’t die in this remake trilogy. There’s no point doing things the exact same way when there’s already been changes in the previous games. I think it’s funny how people can’t see that it’s a remake and not a remaster. When films are remade they’re not the exact same film word to word scene to scene because that’s not fresh or practical. We’ll see how they handle the third game but think they’ve done a great job so far I mean tifa in the lifestream is one of the best things ff7 has ever done
Look at you. Reviewing games again. I'm here for it, brother.
Patiently waiting for his FF13 review already, but I'm glad he got to this 1 😂
16 is still my favorite but im in the same boat where remake was "good" and rebirth is simply great.
Pickles are truly amazing
Woah woah woah the piano minigame was fire 🔥
Just completed the game today and this pops up in my subscription box. Instant watch 🎉
Yeah..agree with most of the flaws except I would consider alot of the extra stuff bloat even tho you didn't need to do them. They're a substantial amount of the game and what you're paying for so you feel obligated to do them. And yeah they handled Aerith in the most confusing way possible. Honestly I wasn't sure till like the last scene in the game.
(Spoilers for the ending) I totally understand if you expected Aerith’s death to be emotional and didn’t like that it wasn’t. But I don’t think that’s what the emotional gut punch of the scene is supposed to be anymore. It’s supposed to be Cloud’s reaction to the event causing a tragic wedge to be placed between him and the crew. A scene that I see barely anybody talking about is the scene where the whole crew is standing over the water Aerith's body is in. Barret says that they have to leave and Cloud (after the whole crew saw him witness a death right in front of him) says very unsympathetically "sounds good" and this makes Tifa SCOFF. Then, Tifa gets up slowly and looks at Cloud (seemed like an invitation for Cloud to mourn with her) and he literally responds with a SMILE. This is NOT normal behavior for somebody who just saw one of his closest friends/lovers DIE in front of them. What this does is creates a wedge between Cloud and the group, he can no longer mourn with them, understand them, relate to them, this leaves Cloud in a VERY BIG hole that he must dig himself out of. THIS is the emotional gut punch that you were probably expecting. And I am somebody who personally believes that the worse the situation, the better the triumphant come back is. The lifestream plot twist will be EVEN MORE impactful now due to the conflicts that will arise due to the event that is Aerith's death. What I really like about the ending as well here is the payoff and consistency for Cloud's character. Cloud has ALWAYS been somebody who copes with trauma through rearranging memories and suppressing them, we have seen him do this with Zack and the Nibelhiem incident. Cloud straight up forgetting that he saw Aerith die in front of him is not only consistent to his character but it also sets up for insane conflicts in the next game.
finally someone gets it!
Exactly and well said, but to be fair the ending requires some time to process to truly appreciate it (much like with Remake's ending). Personally I was left very confused when I initially beat it (something they clearly want you to feel), and it took a few hours of digging through stuff to realize the incredible set up it made. Just hoping they stick the landing in part 3.
@@oEXTRA for sure I agree with that. I actually didn’t like it at first but you REALLY need to process it and think about the decisions they made and WHY they made them. Some people will like the post ending processing session and some people won’t. I totally get that
Yes! Like with Remake, you initially have this confusion to the ending but then things make sense the more you sit and chew on what happened.
I really enjoyed the Spoiler Review talks with Max and Easy Allies because it of all the details I missed while watching. Small things like Tifa being dead silent, Cloud being the only person without a limit break, *THE MUSIC* that plays when everyone is mourning but Cloud sees Aerith!
My biggest hope is that they really nail the northern crater. It’s going to be one of the most important parts for the next game.
The ending expects a lot of the audience and I love that sort of 'respect' it has for the audience in that way - not treating them like idiots and feeling the need to explain everything on the spot. There is a healthy amount of ambiguity and I hope in part 3 they don't go the way of over-explaining every single plot point (Kingdom Hearts 3). I was kind of neutral on the ending at first, but once you 'see through it' it just gets better and better every time I watch it.
they didn't fumble the end of this game. It's great and gives us a lot to look forward to. It's depicting denial when grieving
I kinda see how people think it's fumbled. To me, Aerith's death falls kinda flat because right after beating the Jenova monster, you suddenly go back to the Edge of Creation I think, have a battle with Sephiroth, and then Zack joins, and then Sephiroth transforms into whatever the fuck that was, and then that thing jumps in between realities that Zack and the party have to fight it as well... All of that gets your attention and Aerith's death feels kinda like an afterthought. I definitely would've left the Zack and Sephiroth Reborn battle for the 3rd game. That final tag team between Cloud and Aerith was awesome though, so I would leave it there. I honestly liked the final fight, but it is waaaaay too much.
@@martinaguiluz4063 I agree with the pacing of the final fights, but I think they also didn't want to play it super straight because they don't want to make it too obvious what's going on with Cloud. Also fun fact: Nojima actually wrote 2 additional boss phases for the final boss gauntlet that got cut because it was already too long.
This game was great and all, it just felt like they needlessly padded out the runtime many times.
Plus, all I could think in certain emotional scenes was "Nomura gotta Nomura."
Open World was easily the worst part of this game imo, HOT TAKE! While Gongaga being the worst and wasn't and didn't need to be huge. Gongaga was not a big area in the OG and should've kept it that way.
Nojima you mean. Nomura is not the director or writer.
@@Kriizikaan Nomura was the creative director of Rebirth and is overseeing the whole project.
The game did exactly what it was going for with the ending. They weren't trying to fake anyone out at all because its very obvious she died. The emotional impact is meant for the third game and this game wants you to end in the same space as cloud where we really dont get a cathartic release for what has happened
Yeah can't wait to mourn Aerith three years after the fact. If they wanted to make you feel like Cloud her death should've been way more ambigious so you'd have a 50:50 split in the fandom. Schrödingers Aerith so to say. Instead we all know she's dead but get zero closure when the Investment in her fate is at its peak.
The moment got ruined in my eyes.
@@TheLastDaysOfSorrow yes it will be impactful 3 years from now when they include it in clouds trauma dump section and will have a big pay off. This team did a great job paying off stuff in rebirth that was set up in remake. Dont understand how people can have the same doomer outlook they had after remake when theyve proven they know what they are doing story wise with this game. You just want the death to be the low point of this game when the focus is clearly set to be clouds decent into madness being fully realized
@@im1085 sorry but I'm not dooming on this game. I really enjoyed about 70-80% of it, I'd say. I wanted to feel something else than confusion and frustration when Aerith died though. Especially after they needlessly padded out the last stretch of the game like that.
I get the artistic choice they made - if it truly was intentional - that doesn't change that it completely ruined the emotional high point of the game.
I also really don't get where you think they paid off what they build up in Remake? Remake left with the big promise/warning to not take anything for granted and that things would change. 90% of this game is incredbly faithful to the original and only the last 2 hours are really tackling the "elephant in the room". And all they do is doubling down on the completely laissez faire nature of the storytelling, giving reddit more food for conspiracy theories while undermining every aspect of narrative causality. What even does anyones death mean when Cloud can just "see" other universes? How is Sephiroth supposed to be threatening when he shows up every 2 hours at the parking lot to give Cloud a knowing nod.
And most importantly: what is the ruleset for the multiverse/rubber reality mechanic inside of this narrative?
Multiverse storytelling CAN be super interesting and rewarding when it is operating in a strict framework of rules. I don't see this here at all. All we have are interpretations and conspiracy theories.
I expected Aeriths death to be the moment where the whispers- and "defying fate" theme would culminate. It'd have been pretty ingenious because this way they actually made the player question whether she's going to die and introduce the chance that she might survive. They basically made her Schrödingers Cat and the moment you lift the box it turns out there's just another box under there and another box and another box and then a final box with the words "got ya, play the third game!" pinned to it.
Personally for me the stakes in the trilogies story feel completely hollowed out by this ending. Nothing means anything when you introduce an untethered deus ex machina. The third game could have Cloud, Keanu Reeves and Jesus fighting Jenova enslaved uber drivers in New York City so everyone gets revived and they could somehow make it work with enough rubber reality relativism.
@@TheLastDaysOfSorrow You have a fundemental misunderstanding of the "multiverses" here. Cloud cant just see people in other universes. The Aerith at the end isnt just a different universe that cloud can see. Sephiroth isnt actually in 90% of the scenes you see him in because thats all clouds mind playing tricks on him. The other "universes" are just the dreams of the dead in the lifestream that Sephiroth manipulates now that he has some control over the lifestream and is using them to create negative emotions for the brief time they exist to empower himself by absorbing them once theyve run their course. Materia is made from the lifestream with memories of the dead so of course "world" could be made from those memories if it could be manipulated. Zach coming back is the work of a dead Aerith who through her praying to the ancients has gained some ability to manipulate the lifestream which was shown to a lesser degree in TOA. Nobody has been revived or brought back from the dead.
TLDR you dont understand the concepts of the game enough to comment on them
That intro though.. chocobo t posing while cloud is faced backwards hahaha.. talk about the mother of glitches 😂
With the ending, we are experiencing what Cloud is experiencing, and he is fundamentally insane at this point in the game. The disjointed aspects are literally his brain trying to logically rationalizing the event. It's why he reacts differently to everyone else. He hasn't processed it yet.
That is a good point, but unraveling that all on top of literally 7 different multiverses and Zack stuff…. Was just too much…. No game ending should need a 45 min youtube vid to explain it
I had a different take -- I think his psyche is straddling two different realities. One in which Aerith lives, and one in which she dies. She obviously died in his "real" world, but if I had to guess, she'll interdimensionally travel from a doomed world to this one at some point in the 3rd game.
Come to think of it, they did follow Zack's world in which Cloud and Aerith survived, so yeah, I bet they both hop into the different reality before the meteor hits their world.
There are way too many different theories already. I for one think that Cloud is seeing multiple realities overlapping, one where Aerith lives and another where she dies.
Mostly because he sees meteor (from Zack's timeline) in the ending and all of the other characters don't.
@ridderbanaan I think it's a mix of the 2. Cloud is insane and he's making it seem like Aerith is still alive but in the moment I believe Sephiroth succeeds and as soon as Cloud saves Aerith, one universe merges with another in which Sephiroth kills Aerith making Cloud's attempt pointless.
Of course Cloud goes absolutely insane at that point. He just saved her but Sephiroth won anyways so he's actively rewriting his memories as the world's merge.
@@gregbrown6921I think it's OK if an ending makes you figure out and sift through it. I wish the rest of the game parsed out the ending bits in a more concise way but the devs obviously threw it all at the end so you can figure it out by the time Part 3 comes out. It allows for the game to remain in conversation for a while after its release.
As someone who never played the original, the way the Remake series has been handled basically excluded me from getting onboard. The story isn't presented as a re-imagining, or a retelling, or anything that would attract a newby, it's a sequel to the entrire ff7 series. You have to have played a bunch of it, because the time-line elements that are so intrinsical to the new games require you to already know how things are *supposed* to be, and to be wow'd at how things are different. Zack carrying Cloud into Midgard at the end of Remake wouldn't feel like any kind of special moment, or divergence, if you didn't play ff7 or crisis core, because for all you know, this is just a flashback to Cloud being helped by *some guy*.
Same with Aerith's death, to a newcomer, Cloud saves her but then magically he doesn't, because wibbly wobbly timey whimey, so what investment can the player have in anything that happens when it can be undone without any real reason beyond "the writer decided the timelines yada yada".
I have to admit, when I discovered the director was the same guy who did Kingdom Hearts, it all suddenly made sense. The guy jumps from idea to idea, without consideration to anything he's already established or how the new thing will lessen the impact of previous moments. Just explaining things away with retcons and mysteries answered by mysteries, and promises that there will be satisfying answers eventually. Bleh.
Same. Which is a shame, because a ton of it IS this perfect dream of a remake.
I think most people that say this are overstimating a lot how good the OG story was.
I am playing the og for the first time now, 32 hours in, close to the end. Yeah, the story IS pretty good, especially toward disc 2 (which remake and rebirth are just disc 1), but a lot of characters development are close to non existant or just when it is their region, after that they stay silent, mostly because you dont have a full party following you.
The remake series do so MUCH MORE for chatacter development and for the world that it is insane.
I meam costa del sol in the og was just.... some 3 boring screens, cosml canyon too.
Amazing for that time I am sure about it, but not as good as in reamake series
@@abraaomitichon7868 I'm all on board for more inclusion and development, especially for character stuff. My issue is the core plot has a whole other layer of Kingdom Hearts-esque timeline nonsense that A) requires a deep familiarity with the original; and B) is used to justify retcons and twists that aren't satisfying for the sake of cheap drama.
Things like mini games, further development of the story and characters, even major changes to the side or main stories are all perfectly acceptable, and probably necessary for a good remake, and tell the story better. The problem is that they instead chose to add a whole meta-narrative about fate and timelines and stuff, so the internal plot of the world takes a back seat. They introduce an alternate universe version of Zack where he survived, before his character and death were even introduced into the main story, which is supposed to be a twist reveal about Cloud's repressed memories. Cloud saved Aerith, but then the timeline changed and she's dead anyway, so why invest in any of Clouds actions or successes when it can be instantly undone for cheap drama?
Not big on pickles, and I'm not surprised you used Kyrie's theme for the wrap-up. lol
Solid review. Agree with all the criticisms, specially the ending. And definitely agree with all the positives. This review is the closest to how i felt with everything compared to other reviews I've seen.
“Rebirth” feels like it was made by Ubisoft and I honestly don’t know if I have the desire to finish it. It’s just bloated with nothing but filler. I don’t want to ping towers and dig up items with a chocobo. Let me play through the game without 90 distractions. I’m still in the Gongaga area two months later 🤦🏽♂️ lol.
So… spoilers: the issue I have is that there was a much easier and elegant way to get to the whole “sephiroth and Aerith are time traveling and basically doing new game plus runs against each other” plot.
Just have the group save Aerith. Then you see the future this creates, realize something terrible will happen instead, and then go back and correct the timeline. Traumatize the player by making them press the button to stab Aerith with her begging you to kill her.
Instead now you have… a different Aerith alive, and one dies in a different way at the same place. They literally please no one by doing this. People who want Aerith alive are going “it’s not the Aerith from prt 1 that we got to know,” and people who want a word for word remake are upset because you changed stuff to begin with.
If you’re going to make the drastic change of having Aeris alive, commit to it. Actually have her alive. Don’t just have another Aerith.
Basically, they pulled a kingdom hearts and over complicated it for the sake of overcomplicating things.
You described the ending perfectly, that's how I felt too. The most confusing stuff for me was the Zack alternate universe stuff.