Final Fantasy 7 Remake Thoughts & Review (ProJared)
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A review of the FINAL FANTASY VII REMAKE, in a slightly different style. I wanted to try something a little more informal, something more casual and feel like a conversation for this review. This is something I'm trying for reviews of new game releases, since in this style I can get them out a little faster. I'd love to hear your thoughts of this format in the comments!
Also, hit me with all of your Final Fantasy 7 Remake theories. I tried to give myself some time to digest and think about the whole thing instead of diving straight into a review.
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"Should we just pick and chose what's cannon?"
Dragonball fans: "You guys don't?"
Lol this is so fucking true. OG bardock is always cannon in my eyes.
You misspelled Star Wars
@@GoeTeeks hahahahaha ahaha **sobs** 💔
We all agree on one thing: GT is not canon and is shit, and Super is the new continuation.
@@jirehresurreccion288 Never, I'm a rebel
The fact that Jared survived his tar and feathering gives me hope for this world
His content is great too
He survived because it was not as bog everyone thought. If all of what he was accused of was true he should not be okay, but it wasn't
@backtothefuture1066 It is. One of those things that comes with fame
@ right? He didn't do anything wrong and obviously didn't deserve all the bs he got.
The internet is an awful place, and jared did not deserve what happend to him.
ProJared (2016): Pleeeeease be good.
Well, here we are!
Tifa was a beast... my favorite character in combat. Once I learned how to cancel combo it was over... she can dish out so much damage in such a short time it’s ridiculous.
Honestly she is the most fun I’ve had in any combat in any game probably ever... and I’ve been gaming since Atari so I’ve pretty much seen and played it all.
I never understood why everyone likes playing as Tifa the most but maybe it’s cause I did not know about cancelling combos. I just keep hitting the same button really quickly trying to keep up with her. I prefer Aerith and Cloud gameplay.
@@saif0316 Tifa is fun af if you've played brawler/punchy punchy chars in games with decent combat mechanics. Like uhhh... Idk any off the dome, but you get the jist.
I want to remind everyone that 7th Heaven got a huge update a few months ago!
7th Heaven is a mod installer/program for FF7 Steam version which adds updated graphics, models and soundtrack. The new update is a serious quality of life update so it has become very simple to upgrade the original to HD.
So, now is definitely the time to play the original. Which I'm going to do now, now that I have finished this part of the remake.
I absolutely enjoyed it so much and if they do decide to make a Final Fantasy VI remake in the future, I hope they won't go too hyper-realistic with the graphics. Just make it clean and retain the old style of combat and fight mechanics/format.
I hope they subvert expectations like how the FF7 Remake, TLJ, and The Last of Us 2 did.
I think y'all should look at the Spoiler Mode video about this game, they do a great job explaining everything about the end
Best line:
Tifa: "Cloud, your dress. It's--"
Cloud: "Nailed it, I know, moving on"
I am so glad they didn't go the Emo Cloud route this game... He actually was a great main character alltogether...
Yeah i agree
@@Blizz3112 I am glad he is not AC trauma Cloud. But... a nitpick but this may work "if Square is interested in this idea" in part 2. Make Cloud less stiff,, more out talking and have him have as punkish hair as Ps1 artwork of Cloud on motorcycle. Just to develop the character and make old school fans happy. Or i hope Square does it. I heard Square said Part 2 is 100% gonna be almost like PS1. So i am interested to see
@@Blizz3112 Like you can say that part 1, he hasnt shaken off the mako yet or is still a little rusty. I think that could work
No best line is
Barret to Biggs: You MAGNIFICENT son of a bitch bring it in!
Biggs: *Ducks
Barret disheartened af: Aw c'mon man
In this alternate timeline, Red XIII is a bard. Hence why he's not in your party.
LOL
He can be in after Cosmo Canyon
Red: "Says the 300 pound sack of it."
Barret: "YOU GET A PASS, TALKING DOG BEST FRIEND!!"
Correction, lab rat dog.
It's a Lab Rat Dog, get it right!
@@EirikXL you do realise he is talking about machineabridged ff7 right?
And here i am.. armless.. friendless.. and homeless.. but not talking-dog-best-friend-less!
I cannot wait for the next game so we can get some AVALANCHE SNUGGLES!!!
all I can say is that the sequel better be called "Final Fantasy VII: Remake - Disc 2"
Truth be told I was a little disappointed that the message they ended it on was "The Unknown Journey Will Continue" instead of "Please Insert Disc 2". Even though it's a simple joke it probably would have caused issues with compliance, with there not actually being a disc 2.
It's gonna be Rebirth and Reunion probbably...
Naw the sequel will be a crossover, showing cloud and Co. being drawn through another shadow portal to a town surrounded by darkness where they will meet up with a kid in baggy shorts, a talking duck and an anthropomorphic dog.
@@oriondye3212 I'm so glad I never played a Kingdom Hearts game. I would hate to have it ruin my experience with such an amazing game as FF7 R.
@@ExaltedUriel The physical release is two discs, so that would cause issues because people actually have a second disc to pop in.
Raycon the new raid shadow legends. Except Raycon is almost useful.
And not scummy
@@notthatsuperman I think what he was going for was "is" instead of "I'd" but hitting d instead of s made his phone capitalize the i. You tried though
Protip: Unless you are a massive fan of bass (music, not the fish, wiseass), you're not going to like them. They also don't last longer than a single gym visit.The mic is trash. Totally overpriced and they probably spend more on advertising than R&D.
@@TheTundraTerror it's relatively cheap, that's all that matters.
You say that but I had raid ads at the beginning and end of the video.
"3, 2, 1, WTF was that ending!?"
Interrupted, of course, by a RAID: Shadow Legends ad.
I wish I had that happen to me. My perpetual ad is the Raycon shit.
I've never once downloaded or even spoke about that stupid game. For some reason though I know it's the most ambitious mobile game of 2019
Johanne Chevreuil stfu
And this is why I use adblock.
I hate that ad. And boy oh boy, I absolutely hate that game even tho I never have and never will play it. Moreso because they keep hammering it down our throats and that’s the fastest way to put me out of something.
I laughed everytime barrette of all people sang the victory fanfare at the end of battle
Interesting spelling of Barret
@@victor_734LOL 😭😭😭
Barret: "Come on! Do you see the piece of shit we're driving here?"
Red XIII: "Says the 300 pound sack of it."
Favorite part ever right next to the 'Get help' part
Nothing beat Madame M poor man's course pain of pleasure.
So, it's not FF7 remake. It's "FF7: REMAKE".
you're confusing the term Remake with Remaster. A Remaster is a graphically enhanced version of the base game. A Remake is a new game using story/characters from the base game.
@@Ekiyashi You clearly don't know what a remake is lmao.
@@KingOfBlades Remake: "to make anew or in a different form"
@@KingOfBlades no u
Surprisingly appropriate.
The Hydlide theme was such a nice touch.
Yeah! I'm glad someone else caught that. :D
Imagine looking at FFVII’s original convoluted plot and thinking, “you know what this needs? TIME TRAVEL & ALTERNATE REALITIES!”
They made it worse.
Honestly, the original isn't convoluted, it just has a lot of story. The only thing that's convoluted is really when is Sephiroth himself and when is he Jenova.
That sort of summarizes my loathing of the Remake's direction
Worked for star trek
Even if the FF series has time travel - FF7 does not. Time travel being added into franchises/stories where it was not originally conceived of is probably one of the most hated story-telling devices at this point. I'm not sure why people reacting negatively is a surprise.
Not sure why you didn't like Red XIII... his voice and character were both EXCELLENT. Remember, Barret called him a "lab rat dog" so Red retaliating by implying Barret was a 300 pound sack while Barret was being annoying (complaining about their crappy car), felt perfectly appropriate! Banter throughout the game was TRULY top notch.
I kinda like that after Barret's relationship with Cloud goes from 0-100, he goes kinda easy on Red instead of having The Great Wall with cannons and spikes around himself like in the beginning of the game
True Red XIII was a great character
I don't care what the ending implied, it was just thematically way out of place. The whole game was about Midgar and Shinra, and suddenly you're having this epic battle against gods, for reasons that were very poorly described. Aerith's exposition scene was dumb; she suddenly convinced them that this is the most important battle ever, when nobody cared about it minutes ago. And, like, ProJared said, Sephiroth's presence was based entirely on reputation, not anything established in this game. The ending felt like watching Die Hard, but after Hans Grubber is thrown off the building, John McClane goes super saiyan and has an epic battle against the Egyptian gods in the sky. Visually great, but completely out of place from the rest of the story.
It's even more bizarre when you realise they could have completely removed the sequence, skipped to the epilogue, and there would have been no changes to the implications of the sequel. Definitely feels like the Nomura Effect.
Rioplats that’s when you know something is poorly written. If you have a scene or sequence that doesn’t influence the plot, lose it.
I have to disagree with the Sephiroth part. (And spoiler I am not a fan boy of VII. VI cannot be taken from the top spot)
I saw him coming in throughout the game, as a means to
A - Fuck with Cloud, and get him going down the path he does.
B - Keep the focus on him, when it detracted from him.
Reminder of his ability to manipulate Cloud. All the black screens with Cloud in the original, I already took as Sephiroth playing with him. So for me, those were just either put on screen proper, or ramped up.
@@rioplats the only problem with this is that the epilogue to the midgar section is a terrible ending to a game. It was fine in the context of the original, but in the original, it was the beginning of a much larger arc, not the end of one. From the moment they announced this remake would only take place in the midgar portion, it was obvious there would HAVE to be a new story element introduced, without it, your narrative arc just doesnt really have a climax. It does feel slightly out of place, but it's really not all that bad when we arent overly critical of the concept of whispers. I dont care too much for the whisper story element but it isnt THAT bad, and the outrage some have over the idea that they are going to fall into poorly written heavily alternate universe based plot points, is a bit unfair at this point in time. While everyone has a right to fear about the future of this series, nothing is concrete enough about the ending of this game to make such assumptions yet. I dont think it's fair to be outraged about something that hasnt happened yet, and something we are only assuming is going to happen. I dont personally like the whispers much, but, I recognize that SOMETHING had to be added to allow a climax at the end of this game, and us fans of the original weren't going to be happy no matter what that was. It did give for some shocking moments, like with Barret however, that I appreciate. Overall I'm still looking forward to the next game.
On the subject of sephiroth being mostly a villain based on reputation, I agree that the writing here is a bit weak, but honestly, the original was the same way. We did get a bit of backstory in Nibelheim, but even then most of his villainy is pretty vague. I agree it's a flaw, but I feel like it's mostly nostalgia that makes us feel like this is somehow a new flaw.
@@hazeldaniels1679 I don't think there's anything inherently wrong with the concept of whispers. I actually like it. The only problem is that they weren't set up very well at all throughout the game. We got that they were nuisances, but the major concern and focus of the plot was always Shinra. The massive epic battle against a god in the end wasn't earned at all in the game. It was a complete 180.
Also, you're completely wrong about Sephiroth in the original. We got a shitload of info and scenes with him in the game before the final battle against him. He tormented Cloud and controlled him throughout the game. We learned his full backstory (injected with Jenova cells as a fetus, lived a life as a supersoldier, thrown into Mako, sitting in North Crater absorbing lifestream for 5 years). We learned his plan, which involves summoning meteor so he can create a new wound, absorb more lifestream, and basically become a god. We even had a huge portion of the game where everyone thought it was the apocalypse, and were terrified. The final Sephiroth fight was VERY well earned by the story. In Remake... not even close.
Even if there were some mysterious aspects of Sephiroth in original (I would argue no more than that of a typical villain), what matters is we _know_ why we were fighting him. Most of the time in the game's story is spent setting up the stakes of Sephiroth. In contrast, almost all of the time in Remake's story is spent setting up the stakes of Shinra.
I agree that they needed something climactic. But they could have done many things, besides this bad ending. They could have done a much better job setting up the stakes of the whispers throughout the game, and have the final battle be against them (no Sephiroth). Or they could have introduced a new Shinra villain who terrorizes you throughout the game, and made _him_ the final boss. Or they could have not made the game end at Midgar. The possibilities are endless. A good writer need not be constrained by the structure of the original.
Regarding Red XIII being a bit of a butthole, I reckon he'll "mellow out" over the course of FF7R-2 (or whatever they call the second part of the remake saga), much like how Cloud and Barrett come to become bros.
This. Remember Red is basically a teenager.
GmodPlusWoW agreed. Can’t have all the character development all at once
Reds still a lil miffed at being referred to as *it* by berrett in the lab.... ;p
yeah, in the original Red XIII purposefully ignored Barret as well in midgar and straight up told the party "Hey, I'm only going with you guys as far as Cosmo Canyon" when you guys leave midgar.
If anything the remake made him more friendly at this point considering he sounds on board to help as it is with the sephiroth thing when that wasn't the case before (He's convinced by Bugenhagen at cosmo canyon to go with the party rather than stay there)
@@TheDapperDragon Exactly. I can't remember his exact age in the OG, but Buganhagen does say he's basically a teenager in human terms, and the years(?) he's spent as a lab rat probably didn't help his social niceties that much either. I think it'll be kinda fun seeing him try to act mature and wise, despite being the same approximate age as Yuffie, only for him to act a little rebellious at times.
Every FF7R review -
"Great game, I have a couple nitpicks. 9/10."
Lens Hunter mostly though I think there was one major review site saying it was bad, don’t remember who though.
Lens Hunter watch donkeys review, lol
Haters gonna hate. This game is 11/10 and absolute GOAT tier and no 9/10 haters can change that.
@@cf3304 wow, really got yourself a boner for this game huh? It was fine, but definitely suffered from some pretty major issues, in story, character, gameplay, even in audio and visual aspects. Would I say its a bad game? No, not remotely, I would personally rate it around a 7 out of 10, or so. Is it a perfect game, a '11/10'? Well, I guess these ratings are subjective, so I guess if you like the poorly put together aspects, then I suppose it is.
@@libtardius3256 Do you honestly one of those fans that think Dunky's reviews are objective fact?
When you hear the hylide theme all of Jareds painful childhood memories of it come back
That being the case, why would he ever put that on any of his audio devices? 😋
@@oblivious8868 das da joke. Oh.. shit, your username is spot on.
Lol I was just about to ask of that was Hydlide!
I dedicated my playthrough to my brother who sadly lost his fight to COVID 19. He was looking forward to playing this game even if he didn't beat tha orginal game. I can honestly say that Final Fantasy VII Remake is truly a fantastic game that everyone should play, and I'm looking forward to the future installments. Stay safe everyone.
My condolences.
Toi O'Kelly. Sorry for your lost.😔 But at least u made him proud.😉
My condolences.
Game was horrible sorry but you sound young as hell I grew up with the original . Nothing was wrong with cloud in the orignal. He had massive player development like he didnt flip when aeris died. Stop these reviews are corny sorry for your lost but dont see what it has to do with this terrible game that takes place only in midgard epic failure
@@charleybrown8650 huh huh yes sure dude can you hate in another place please? be respectful idiot
Those 3 whispers definitely represent the future of Kadaj Laz And Yazoo, their weapons match them more accurately and they fuse into Bahamut.
YUP! This has now also been 100% confirmed by the Ultimania book that released a couple days ago
thank you. was looking for this. one-handed sword and dual gun and single glove and the name when I scan.
Weird that they're trying to protect the future in which Sephiroth loses.
@@SakuraAvalon mh they may not exist in another future. Maybe thats why
The Ultimania doesn't say they are exactly them, just based on them. The exact significance of this, if there is any beyond being a cute easter egg, has yet to be explained.
I dunno, the a-hole archetype works for me regarding animal characters. Also: "This part dragged hard." *shows Cloud in drag*
"Nailed it, I know. Thank you. Moving on."
it kinda lines up to the fact he was used as a guinea pig too and was literally expected to fuck aerith.
Is there another animal character like red that joins you or an enemy? Because you said animal characters and I only see one
@@Joshua_Cartus Pretty sure they just meant animal characters in general, not animal characters specifically in FF7.
Imo this game could so easily be a perfect 10/10 if they just polished up a few things. Camera is wonky, air combat is wonky, textures don't load, if you run through a town all of the town's-people's dialog goes off at once and everybody is just screaming at you, things of that nature.
b.A.m. Fair
honestly, the game's pacing and tendency drags it way down for me, whenever the game stopped to warn me about side quests being permanently kissable I just frowned. the new quests never really added much to the story and the rewards didn't feel meaningful enough so I could sulk it up and just do them, I guess the combat Intel ones were the best since I never needed to go out of my way to complete them and the summon fights were pretty fun.
even without the side quests tho, the game has so many moments were you're just walking with a character while listening to them talking that could easily have been just a cutscene, I love some character development but it was a slog to get through the beginning of Sector 5 lol
it's definitely a good game that would rank comfortably in a 7/10 because it's designed to be padded and incomplete, maybe it will pay off in the next part
To be honest, a ssd helps a lot against the popups xD not sure if its worth it though.. ps 5 is coming soon.. with heat problems.. guess i wait a little longer
It would certainly help if the excessive padding was removed, and if the dialogue felt more natural. Still, I'm liking it so far.
b.A.m. I feel like, if the game wasn’t in an episodic format the pacing would be a TON better.
Regarding those 3 whispers you talked about: Those ain't Cloud, Tifa, and Barret. According to remake's Ultimania, those 3 were (ahm) that trio from AC.
Kadaj and the bois?!
@@Grizzlow2 yes
Oh. So Sephiroth versions of Cloud Tifa and Barret.
@@greylithwolf Makes sense. I thought it was weird the yellow whisper had two gun arms if it was representing Barret. The guns arms even look like the ones the gun wielder used in AC. What doesn't really make sense is that the Assess description says "they shaped the future" even though in the grand scheme of things they only resurrected Sephiroth for 5 minutes. Is that impactful enough?
@@chrisdaughen5257 Essentially the Sephiroth in remake is the Sephiroth from AC.
It explains him knowing what to change, parrying the Omnislash and having the black wing he gets in those 5 minutes.
So essentially yes it is, those 5 minutes are the basis fo FF7R in theory.
Tifa's my favorite character to play as in the remake. I love her special attacks and fast attacks.
I'm looking forward to fighting as her! She totally feels like a martial artist from all I've seen of her, as with Cloud being a swordsman, etc.
@@raziyatheseeker I think you'll really enjoy playing as her. She's really fun to play. Plus she's best girl!
Frank Grizzaffi We love our Wafiu, Tifa Lockhart
The song is called “Stand Up” by the way. The Honeybee in music. In case anybody wanted to look it up.
Thank you man
So I guess I'm in a minority for hating that song with a passion?
Probably not, I love the song but I've seen a few people hating on it.
Can't wait to play as Yuffie, Cid and Vincent in the next few games. And Cait Sith to I guess...^^
I hope Vincents playstyle is similar to the way Rufus fights during his boss battle.
Don’t forget Red XIII
Unless they don't join you in the new timeline.
Wouldnt it be interesting if plot twist. Kyrie was Yuffie all along
The fandom is freaking out over the story/lore stuff but I’m just interested to see how Cait Sith is implemented. I can kinda guess how the other three will play but Cait Sith is very much the odd one out of the cast so I’m excited to see what they do with him.
@@KefkeWren God I hope this is the case! The original is a shitty kiddy game and the farther away they get from it the better!
One huge thing that bothered me about the combat was fighting a boss and almost filling its stagger bar... but then the boss moves onto its next phase. And the stagger bar completely resets. Super frustrating
Nvm the stagger mechanic in general is bad and annoying.
Thing about Red is that before the Cosmo Canyon event, he doesn't actually like people very much and has some deep seated thoughts about the weakness of human nature. This abrasiveness is to start building on that.
Wow, as some one who watched the streams I wasn't expecting that rating.
Also it's nice to see casual new game reviews back again!
i havent watched the streams yet, so i take it he didnt like it? haha his opinion of ff7 is on the bad side after all
I found it funny that Jared criticized the game getting easy 10s when he gave it a 9/10, it was a good review nonetheless but it was pretty unexpected to say the least
Sounds like he's trying to avoid the remake's Twitter mob that lunged at Dunkey after his fairly negative dunk view on the game.
@@TheMaestro116 Dunkey thinks their padding out the game (having a part 1, 2 and 3) for money. After watching everything Max has covered about the way the devs are approaching this remake, I'm baffled.
Goblin idk a lot of of did feel like padding though. There’s a lot of things that just serve to make the game longer than it needs to be. The side quests are for the most part not fun. One of them is just finding cats. Then there is so much of very slowly walking and squeezing through tight spaces. Like A LOT. I swear that take up like 1/4 of the game. It’s like they wanted to put in obstacles, but didn’t want to put in any time to create any actual puzzles.
The whispers take me out of the story completely. Square doesn't need to justify changing things. As a remake, the story is in their hands to change as they will and since this game expands such a small part of the original, changes are inevitable. If they carried out any changes they planned on without the whispers, it would just be the way things are moving forward.
i think the whispers worked well enough for what they were supposed to do.
I mean, they beat fate now, so the whispers don't matter going forward anyways.
Or did i miss something again?
It's a valid point. I think whether or not a creator (or team of creators) inject new elements of a story to justify meta-textual changes to that story is largely a matter of personal taste, but there are arguments for when such is necessary. Like, if a character dies in a serialized story or book, then in later editions the writer decides to bring them back to life there pretty much needs to be a fairly strong justification built into the narrative for that change or the death feels extremely cheap (looking at you, American super hero comics).
But that's usually for Retcons in an ongoing story about past events. What's going on here is far weirder, since, yeah as you said, this is a remake starting from the zero point of the story and any changes they want to make can just be included as they need to occur very naturally. So the effect of in-canon justification for potential story changes seems like a large scale narrative intrusion. Look at so much of the game as is - there didn't need to be magical ghosts justifying why Cloud takes on a bunch of sidequests in places he visited in the original FF7 where they didn't occur, they just include those new elements naturally in to the narrative.
On the other hand though, it boldly establishes this series as going down a divergent path, which creates a large question mark as to the outcome of the events going forward. Which does potentially generate more interest in future installments based on wanting to know how it turns out in a genuine sense that wouldn't be there in a more straight forward remake, and potentially eases some fan pressure from those who would demand a more 1:1 rendition of the OG game's events by 100% declaring that things are going to be different here.
@@MidlifeCrisisJoe My opnion is that this game isn't really a remake but a sequel too (Requel like everyone seems to like that new term) somehting about characters coming from the future that alter the present so they have to justify to changes if not this wouldn't make any sens so the Whispers are valid (in my opinion)
Are you using logic despite the fandom panned the latest installment because of the look of the protagonists and because they get from a point to another because it doesn't show it - despite the information you have from before is way more than enough (especially for a fantasy story)?
That without considering how fans hate remakes even when they ask for it, simply because they want their childhood to be untouched.
This way no story is retconned but they are just telling a new one. Smart move if you ask me.
Augustine Hart It’s modern Square, they’re allergic to subtlety now.
Final Fantasy VII Partial Remake. For this particular fan, I wanted a remake, not a "what if" split timeline.
Me too...
I just wanted the storyline I loved with gameplay/graphic improvements, added development, and better dialogue
I think that’s what we were expecting because it’s called a remake when it really should be called a reboot.
@Fg 98 That's fine, but that's not what they teased for 15 years, and not what they implied with the name even when it was released
@@systemafunk The never teased anything for 15 years, they just milked the cow as much as they could.
As far as the name, name me one remake in any art whose title has 'remake' in it.
The title was weird from the beginning, now we know why: it's an action that takes place in the narrative.
I liked the pacing quite a bit. Never felt anything dragged. I wanted to live in the world even longer. Didn’t want it to end.
I dont. Finishing a game where you are 100% sure there will be a cliffhanger means ZERO in terms of achievement.I wont buy any of its sequels until whole collection will be on the market.
@@m4rcin847 two things you are wrong about though - there was no cliffhanger ending. It actually more than satisfied the dlc made it even better. Secondly the story is from a 97 game all the same beats are happening.
@@TylerEdlin84 Its not a finished story, just part 1 of God-knows-how-many. Yes, its a story from a 97 game, a 5h story stretched to 30h+. And stretched in a very bad way like SLLOOOWW moving thru narrow spaces or cliche sidequests. Game is very good, but that slow pacing really pushed it down for me. Combat, characters, writing and a fucking OST! - absolutely 10/10. Shame that its all cut to pieces and stretched af.
@@m4rcin847 but why not buy the next part? No reason not to
@@captainpep3 There is a reason - price. And a fact that those games are about story wich, we already know that, wont be completed in the next game. Cutting those game to pieces is an obvious nostalgic cashgrab. Thats why I will wait for "FFVII Remake full collection" or whatever it will be called.
When you get literally shit on by the entire internet and come back with badass battle scars
i am REALLY scared about how the story will go on from now on
because: Nomura
If it makes you feel better Nomura is not credited as a writer and he's one of three co-directors.
@@vocalcalibration8033 just a little bit
kh3 did stuff to me, man
We also just got confirmation that, for the next major installment anyway, they're not going to deviate very much from the original story. So this leads me to believe that the only huge, major changes to the story are going to be in the final stretch and that anything new they add before then will be more embellishments a la Jessie's side quest.
What if I told you the writer of the original game is the writer of the remake.
@@Vulcanfaux yep -.-... people think Nomura is developing the game all by himself.
ngl I thought that Red XIII one-liner on the truck was really funny, albeit uncalled-for.
He dies not say that in Japanese audio. So, there is that...
That line does show up as a quick speech bubble in the original during the chase
"Says the 300 pound sack of it."
XDDDDD
That cracked me up badly.
Yeah Red XIII always had a thing of trashing Barret for some reason and vice versa :P kind of glad they kept it in the remake
My friends and I always rip on each other so it makes them seem more realistic to me
Man, I love lab rat dog, he was the best.
HEY!
That Cloud dancing scene alone is worth the 10/10 score
I didn’t expect cloud to kill it that hard!
I absolutely hated this remake. They cut so much out and put so much fluff in. Why is it not turn-based? This action garbage really ruins it. Why is it episodic?? Just remaster the original and give us the FULL game!
I'm surprised ProJared being a Final Fantasy purist , he didnt have a serious problem with this. I'm shocked he was okay with it.
Think about it. They are charging you $60-$70 for just a piece of the game? You have to buy each episode! By the time all the episodes are out let's assume it takes 15 episodes, you spent almost $900. For ONE game.
Can’t wait to see this new style of review Jared, keep up the good work!
What's canon in a split timeline? Yes.
They've already confirmed that it's all canon. The remake isn't meant to invalidate anything that came before.
Yes it is! The original was a kiddy game with kiddy graphics. Look at the title for Nomura-San's sake! REMAKE! As in remaking the old piece of shit into a new GOAT tier masterpiece! The old one is obsolete. Google searches will leave it out of their algorithms as time goes on and THIS will be seen as the ONLY FF7 (as it should be).
C F i hope this is bait lmao
@@cf3304 Did you miss the part where you have to know the original's story to fully understand this one's? And kiddy game with kiddy graphics? Come on dude, just because graphics nowadays do look so much better, doesn't mean anything for THAT TIME PERIOD. It was a product of its time, and still HEAVILY viewed as one of the greats because of the STORY. I mean honestly, without any insult meant, genuine question: are you a youngling that wasn't around for games with shitty graphics? Because graphics aren't everything.
Even if you played the original, and just didn't like it, you're seriously being an overzealous hyperfan in this entire comment section, and it's obnoxious (actually giving credence to the idea that you're a kid/teenager). Acting like that will do less to change peoples' opinions than just expressing how much you love this game, or WHY you love it.
@@mud7380 yeah he's being sarcastic lol
C F wow you’re stupid
Let's be reasonable here: those "whispers" only exist so SE can take a plot that wasn't convoluted and make it convoluted!
It's a convoluted way for the next game/s to be allowed to alter the timeline, 'changing destiny'
Exactly
I wouldn't exactly call the original plot "not convoluted" to be honest.
Or a aay to show how gaia and the lifestream were "guiding" the characters in the original
OG ff7 was absolutely convoluted
i hate nomura writing so much it's unreal
He’s talking about the game for real! And not the demake!
Thank god
@Stix N' Stones watch his previous video
*Hydlide music plays* Jared: Gets Vietnam War flashbacks
Honestly my biggest gripe is calling this a remake when it should be called a reboot
With the potential directions the storyline is going with all this fate stuff, I think it could end up being more like a direct sequel. In a "Dark Tower" kind of way
Reboot/sequel
DEFINITELY feels like a reboot 👍
Did the word remake change definition? it's a re make as in it's being re made not a remaster or a re release. re make.
@@ionfalcom1 idk what you're on, remake means to do something again, not make something entirely new. Xenoblade, crash, and spyro are examples of remakes. Kh1.5 & DMC HD Collection are examples of remasters.
"For example all the music from the FFVII remake"
*indiana jones- I mean hydlide music*
I'm a die-hard FF7 fan, and I was always very dubious about how this remake was going to turn out. This video confirms some of my worst fears. That altered 'plot' is just...idiotic, amateurish, and needless - surely one of the biggest reasons FF7 is so beloved is the story, so why completely f**k with it?
I'll echo the calls of fan fiction, because FF7:R absolutely *reeks* of it. The whole thing strikes me as a cynical way to sell an episodic game in full-retail price chunks, and use FF7 nostalgia to ensure that it succeeds.
Sometimes I really do wish the past could be left alone, and not 'reimagined' like this.
The original still exists. If you just want an updated version of that game there are alot of PC mods you can install to change graphics and other stuff.
"The original still exists"
Why do people keep saying this? No fucking shit, sherlock. However Square teased a "remake" for years. Long before they were actually working on it, for the past 15 years, Square has talked about remaking it for a modern console.
Those of us who were following it from then and pining for it from then wanted an actual remake. Not a different game with the main characters, used as an excuse to introduce yet another spin off.
Middle of the battle! Everything's intense or blowing up!
Cloud: "Better do my laps."
Jared gave a number at the end of the review?! I was really looking forward to the ol' clever simile. Still a great video.
Well it's not a pro review, it's just a normal one. He's always done plain numbers for standard reviews.
A Star Trek Into Darkness /10. A story that can't stand on its own without having prior knowledge of the original story.
13:09 Nah man.
They're Loz, Yazoo, and Kadaj.
That's lame, but knowing modern Square-Enix, you're probably right.
Exactly. Disappointed jared hasn't sought answers
This is definitely true. The gun whisper uses an attack called velvet nightmare which is the name of Yazoo's gun in FF7:AC. Also, my theory is that this is new game+ for both Aerith and Sephiroth.
This needs to be further up
Crusader Galve yeah, so many people talk about how Sephiroth is trying to change the past, but almost no-one mentions how much the Whispers keep attacking Aerith as if she was also an anomaly
I agree with everything you said. The enemies are so damn spongy some times. Chapter 16 I turned the difficulty down to easy and just whooped everything’s ass
I'm looking forward to your review of FF13. They've all been great, dude. One thing I remember most about playing that game is constantly tapping the X button when in battles, even though you've got to wait for the bar to fill. I guess I just felt like there wasn't enough to do. I was just watching a lot of cool shit happen and pushing a button every like 3 seconds.
The terrible padding and filler ruined it for me sadly.
I really enjoyed the opening and uptil about half way through.
But then it just felt like a grind, it wasn't fun to play anymore
Yeah, FF7R isn't bad but too overrated
“The original had decades of expansion. Should we all just forget that?”
Could we?
I can. I don't remember anything about that piece of shit. It was a kiddy game with kiddy graphics. THIS is the new and definitive FF7 experience and the old is now obsolete. Haters need to deal with it!
C F bruh the new game doesn’t even show real blood.
@@cf3304 Did you watch the entire video? Jared says "too much of the game relies on the old one". We can't just say one or the other and "haters need to deal with it". We still need both.
@@cf3304 Your trying *way* to hard
@@cf3304 Your bait is too weak, you should not try so hard
Jared is a legend, he survived the "cancel bastards" from twitter and then here he is talking and making what he loves the most, videogames.
lol Okay.
@@colorcola1464 lol Okay.
FF7 may have made some mistakes, but just remember: To Aeris to be Human
Beat this game when its first came out. This is the first thing I've watched on it since. Great video. Thanks!
Hey Jared keep up the great work! :) I'm wondering if you might do a video on XIV's latest expansion Shadowbringers? :O I know you've been a supporter of that game since it's miraculous rebirth back in 2013 and both Heavensward and Stormblood were both featured in your Best Of videos for their respective years. It'd be great to hear your thoughts on the latest expansion, especially considering it's been received by the community as one of, if not *the* best FF story in years.
Can’t believe it’s taken me this long to realize, but I think Square Enix has a specific bone to pick with fans who want everything to remain the same. *Long-winded spoiler explanation ahead*
As anyone who’s made a wildly popular piece of art would know, what people tend to appreciate about that art is often at odds with the artist’s intent for creating it. In my own observation, this often leads to discontent between fan and artist, especially when the artist wants to make more of that art. Some are discouraged and never touch it again, and others give in to demands while the art itself loses that “heart” which made it so special. I think Square Enix is instead deliberately mocking its own fanbase with the inclusion of the whispers, and their subsequent destruction.
For all intense and purposes, it seems like the whispers are a personification of fans and their desires. They appear to be omniscient beings for this world that keep the familiar story going even when you can clearly tell they’re not needed in scenarios they show up in. This seems like Square’s strange way of giving the fans a bone, while also giving themselves the creative freedom to do as they please moving forward.
By having the whispers destroyed at the end of the game, Square Enix seems to be making a bold statement that they want to remake the game the way THEY see fit, and I get the sense people are going to have to live with that. From an artist’s perspective, their original art that everyone fell in love with is still there, and it can be returned to and enjoyed all over again at any time. However if they’re going to spend valuable resources to re-tell a story they’ve already told in an entirely new form gameplay, this move seems like they’re going to continue doing as they please for as much creative freedom as possible; it preserves their integrity in a weird way.
You can disagree all you’d like (and it seems like most old-school fans do) but after playing this Remake first then the original for the first time, I get the impression that Square would rather remake *all* aspects of the game as though it was first released in this day & age.
Personally I actually don’t mind these changes. It sure as hell isn’t perfect and I truly do think the original game is leagues better, but I have to appreciate Square Enix for sticking by their guns and actually making something new in a world we love. Is that not the definition of RE-making something? I guess many would disagree… you’re welcome to tell me how stupid I am in the replies ;)
I agree, you still have the original and I still love seeing the ff7 compilation expanded upon. This was basically Square saying this isn't a remake in the sense you'd first imagine but a remake as in a sequel. Storywise all the story beats of the original had to have happened for this "remake" to happen, for those people in the FF7 know they would realize that. Frankly this is a good entry point for newer fans as this stuff would go overtheir heads but this also brings in new fans to the franchise and make them more interested in the story. I love the way they went with it
Woooo, can’t wait for this video. I loved this game. 56 hours so far. Gonna platinum this one
Vincent Mallory Godspeed!
Get ready...because it's a doozy lol. I did a more casual playthrough, but I got the platinum at ~120 hours.
60 hours for me. Only completed 2 chapters on hard so far
"The pacing was terrible." Gee. It's almost as if they shouldn't have tried to make the opening section of an already full-length, 40 hour game into its own 40 hours.
So basically, it's not Final Fantasy VII Remake. It's Final Fantasy VII Rewrite.
It was a remake until the last chapter. So I see why they called it that
Actually, I didn't feel like the pacing was bad, I really enjoyed Hojo's lab (that's something personal, I understand some people hated it), I really enjoyed fighting the dogs (unlike many people lmao) the only enemies I hated were the MOTH units, god they were annoying LMAO. The side quests were kinda repetitive but I liked the fact that they finished with a little bit of story and insight of NPCs, and it was actually interesting
juanlash don’t worry. I felt the exact same way
people that say pacing is bad , is not fan of ff7 , he just another youtube reviewer for profit
I enjoyed how sassy they made Nanaki. The original game emphasized that he's basically a teenager.
My personal issue is just that I don't love the original. Great, sure, but often very dumb, and with only like 2 or 3 characters I actually like. This remake fixes pretty much everything imo, and would absolutely be the definitive FF7 if they didn't add a bunch of extra.
It's like The Hobbit. The movie version.
Still, we'll see what's up.
Do you reckon this game engine could be used for a chrono trigger remake? That would be legendary
Please no. Leave Chrono Trigger alone.
I am a little bit disappointed that Clouds Shoulders and Thighs aren‘t as buff as in the original FF7.
M. Mirza XD
Also, no sexy Popeye forearms.
He still buff
"99/100 people liked your performance"
I don't agree with everything negative you had to say about the remake but your review is really good and really fair. 👍
I thought he was too nice and should have been more negative. I dont like that he hand waved the misleading marketing about this game.
@@braddl9442 🤷♂️ can't please everyone
" can't believe they gave it 10/10.......... few moments later...... i give it 9/10"
yeah jared, show them whose the boss
still...as great as this game is, it should've called FF7 : MIDGAR
I adore how Square-Enix brought the original game back into the spotlight, and kept it just as important as it ever was. Instead of creating a Remake that essentially replaces it.
Am I the only OG FF7 player that likes the way the finale of the remake ended? So what if it’s not 1-1.. In the end it’s still going to be holy vs meteor. Nothing will change that. Our hero’s might take another direction getting to it, but it’s still inevitable. People need to relax and realize what a fantastic game the remake is. Can’t wait for the future games, and hopefully there is a lot of them.
Nope. I liked it too. Some dumbasses hated it because they can't let go of the past and expected it to be EXACTLY the same as the original. Some even said that the game ruined their childhood. LOL.
No we just dont like kingdom hearts bullshit in our classic ff7 games thats all
You’re an amazing guy, most people wouldn’t have been able to get through what you have.
Agreed! Keep up the great work, Jared.
I am so glad I am not the only one that found ALMOST THE EXACT SAME ISSUES with the game! As much as I love some of it they completely "Hobbited" it. So much padding and unnecessary junk, and combat was fun but very wonky.
I didn't finish the game (I have no PS4, I was using my son in laws), but watching the spoiler section, it now looks like they Star Trek'd the game, too.
This game should have made more of an effort to be inclusive to newcomers. I’ve never played FF7 and I was hoping this would be an ultimate edition of the story not a new timeline that fallows it’s own rules.
I think what they're doing is really interesting, so I disagree. I actually bought original FF7 a few days ago because of this. However I DO think they should have said something about that.... but at the same time, it would have ruined some amount of surprise and subversion of it not being exactly the same game. It's hard to say, really. This is totally my opinion, so I'm not trying to say you're wrong or anything. Just having a discussion.
it is the ultimate edition of the story , the only different was 5% in the end , it follow the OG story right before the End , many ppl think this game sucks bcz that 5% end story , and forgeting 95% that very good gameplay that follow the OG story.
Yeah all the fan service I felt would probably make newcomers feel lost. And as a fan of the original I felt like they should've just saved all that stuff for later. I guess they felt fans would want to see teases of future events/characters sooner, but I am a patient man.
ps1 version is way better dude i dont know
The fact that your Limit Breaks can be interrupted pisses me off to no end
Also yeah Chapter 17 meanders like crazy
I never once had any of my limit breaks get interrupted. Not even on hard mode. Thats crazy, I would be pissed too. They are pretty rare.
depends... on the materia you are using. or just have Barret's steelskin unique ability to shield the one who is about do the limit.
@@justinsherwin8809 Not only did I have mine interrupted, but the enemies moved away constantly that I couldn't hit them so I never used limit breaks. What's the point in having this flashy animation if it's interrupting the ability for you to hit the enemy with it? I honestly hated the battle system.
It's kind of disappointing for those who just wanted a 1:1 remake. I like that there's 40 hours of Midgar though, Midgar was easily my favourite part of the original.
Everyone asked for a remake for 20 years. They decided to give us a sequel instead while lying to us that it was what we asked for. Its straight bait and switch and misleading everyone for years.
@GamerBear Thats the thing right. They did not lead in with the fact they were changing the story meaning and context totally. So until that is addressed and apologized for they get no praise and this without the FF7 skin over it is a 7/10 game at best.
No way spoilers ending at 1337 was an accident 👀
The Meta commentary of "changing fate" was too cliche.
There was NO need for such a thing.
Expanding events, introducing multiple POV,peek at side character background story was all we needed.
Hope Square enix leaves the META for Kingdom Hearts
My thoughts exactly.
I loved all the extra characterisation, especially the friendship between Aerith and Tifa because I really wanted to see more of it. While, personally, I am a fan of Cloud x Aerith, I never liked it at the expense of Tifa, if you know what I mean, I liked that these two women got along just fine because, imo, Aerith and Tifa are both absolutely wonderful and iconic characters. And everyone, absolutely everyone (okay, I did find Jessie a little annoying at some point, but her death (?) made me sad, so she's fine) was so much fun to watch. Barret, already one of my favs, became an extra favorite because his motivation was so apparent and so understandable, not to mention touching. Loved that, loved the music, loved seeing familiar locations and constantly thinking to myself, "I remember this!" So many times I had to stop just to look around and admire the detail.
But halfway through I switched the difficulty level from normal to easy because battles were starting to get frustrating due to useless AI and I wanted to focus on the story, not that I struggled much but since I wasn't controlling the entire party at once, whoever I was playing as was carrying most of the weight and, to be honest, I just got lazy because I did not buy this for action, I bought it because I loved the original story, plus the pacing was... suffocating, considering that it's 10-15% of the original turned into a game of its own, and I already think that Midgar begins to overstay its welcome just a bit near the end of its segment, so... there was enough of it. Iconic location, great start of a great game, but I'm not sure I wanted this much of it.
And, of course, while I am not completely opposed to the idea of reimagining and changing the story of 7, I have some concerns. On one hand, I am curious to see what is going to happen if we are given the freedom to shape the story more or less to our liking or at least a chance to experience a different scenario, but at the same time, personally, I just wanted the same good old 7, a little dolled up with extra content, but true to the original, so I am skeptical and cautious. We'll see, and then we'll judge, I suppose.
But at the end of the day, I did not regret playing it, I'm glad I did, so hey, it was a worthy purchase for me personally.
The ending kills it for me, everything with the whispers, Sephiroth popping up, and everything at the end, just feels like a huge fanfic made real
Typical nomura bullshit he is infamous for doing that with Kingdom Hearts
Ya, deleted the game after that. Was just a big bundle of sad going through that whole fight sequence. O well, at least Doom remake was decent. Guess I’ll go find another universe to invest my feelz into.
Well it is AC after all. Not a well recieved movie but Im okay with them giving it justice in the remake. As it all ties together, and hoping we can see it flourish in a more "new" ish kinda way rather than just throwing all the cast in.
13:06 oh jared, you're still at level 1 of known whats going on, right?...
To be honest, this game's atrocious retcons make it very hard to discern what is truly going on, I had to watch and read a lot of shit to get what is actually happening
@@Nemesis_T-Type they want to make ppl think and use their big brain, u need to know all the ff7 lore too
@@Nemesis_T-Type No offense, but that sounds like a personal problem. They explained it perfectly, in a fully voice-acted cutscene right before the final boss fight. The Whispers want to maintain the timeline, but the party wants to fight Sephiroth, so they have to kill the Whispers, and therefore kill fate itself, in order to fight Sephiroth, since they're not "supposed to" fight him yet. Other than that, everything is the same as it's always been. If you don't understand it, play it again and pay more attention.
@@josh-oo
"everything is the same as always it's been".
not sure bro. the last time i check OG FF7, Zach died before he even arrived at midgar.
yeah he's still at level one but in his defense, frontloading all those twists at the end isn't ideal storytelling
So, Final Fantasy VII-R: Kingdom Hearts Edition? At least, that's how I see this game. I'll probably end up buying this once it's fully completed, till then, I'll stick with the PS1 original.
"How was this game already getting so many perfect 10/10 reviews." You could have taken a piece of turd, put in in a brown paper bag and write FF7 remake on it and it would be getting perfect 10/10 reviews 1 month before release.
Because the game companies pay off the reviewers to give their shiny new game a 10/10
A very fair and honest review, thank you Jared!
I am calling it, right here and now:
*They're going to kill off Tifa instead of Aerith.*
Nobody is going to give a flying piss if they kill off Aerith again. At the same time, they can't just not bring the scene up. It's one of VII's nost iconic moments.
Zer0scope that would be fucking epic. I’d hate to see my girl die but damn would that be epic.
Zer0scope oh gosh I can’t believe I’m saying this but I want Tifa to die.
I'd be fine with killing Barret, replaying the original now and I saw how he let Shinra in the village
I think it's Cloud. Think about it. He had a vision that Aerith died, and Sephiroth told Cloud he has 7 seconds until the end. He's telling Cloud he has 7 seconds to change Aeriths fate. He's going to take the blade this time.
@@chadkirk150 cloud dying would be more of a cop out, cloud left the party in the original due to mental issues and such, so this would be a way to combine parts of the original story and throw in a dash of crono trigger.....
Absolutely spot on review. Agree with everything you said on this one. Enjoyable game but very flawed. The pacing really hurt the game.
There shouldn’t be any cannon discussions at this point. Either way multiverses are in vogue right now.. if anything my expectations are high for them to deliver on a new satisfying store that at least meets the level of the original. I don’t care how many different storylines they have, or retellings, but maybe that’s just me. DC comics reboots itself completely ever few years, and is constantly bringing in new, old, stuff into official cannon. What was cannon isn’t anymore.. it’s just fun takes on the same story.
It would be boorish to replay the same game with a new battle system. Just like reading a book and then watching a movie that was exactly the books story without adaptation.. I’ve never understood that desire to see the same thing we’ve read, or whatnot. If I wanted the thing I’ve already had... well.. I’ve already had it.. and in the case of a game just play the original again.
Oh man, finally someone who feels the same way I do.
Goddammit Nomura, all you had to do was remake FF7, and you couldnt even do that without sticking kingdom hearts bullshit in it.
Luckily for me, I like Kingdom Hearts. For the most part.
Had mostly the same notes on the game as you: combat had a severe case of "lol u didn't bring the right materia"-itis, pacing was weird (the part that bugged me was the journey to the pillar. 50k people at risk. Let's stop and commiserate for a little bit!), and I hated the whispers. I basically considered them the embodiment of player expectations, but the outcome is the same: dumb. If you're gonna do a different story, then just do it. Now I'm worried they're going to get really weird with crossing timelines and the like. Yuck. Plus, the end of every game is going to be beating up Sephiroth. Great. So the dramatic confrontation at the end of the last episode...why will it be the one that kills him? Ah, because you whatevered the maguffin, thus killing him for realz. I wish they'd have come up with something else to be the final battle is what I'm sayin'.
Ryan Boyer Jesus.
Jesus
My eyes
The three whispers are confirmed to be a form of Kadaj, Loz and Yazoo.
Who also mainly use a sword, his fists, and a gun, respectively.
@@toufuvang3179 Two guns.
I get your gripes about the battle system but when you talked about limit breaks being interrupted but then show clips of characters getting them off without any issues it kind of undermines your point? I never felt like the game was fucking me over, every time I was interrupted I knew there were things I could have done to avoid it. The slow mo is key to this.