Beige on the Range: Introducing Lindybeige To Four WW2 Rifles
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- Опубліковано 6 вер 2024
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Yes, Lindybeige paid a visit to Schloss Bloke in Switzerland, and did some shooting! With a selection of four Second World War rifles:
- M1 Garand (7.62 NATO not .30-06)
- Mauser Kar98k (7.92x57),
- Lee-Enfield No.4, (.303 British) and
- Schmidt-Rubin K31 (7.5x55 GP11)
How did he feel about them?
Of course, any video involving Lindybeige has to go over half an hour, and this one is no exception!
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"The recoil on my shoulder was fine, it's the recoil on my nose that I object to." The best thing ever said by this man besides having the Jagdpanther on his top five tanks list
at 7:32 the kid in the background got his ear protection off and put it back on at the last moment just before lindy fires.
Damn this shit was intense I was like "Cmon dude, u gotta speed up"
And he did that without looking when someone is giong to fire!
I cringed when I saw that XD
The kid isn't right beside the rifle, so it doesn't matter that much.
as a rule your head doesnt explode without hearing protection, your brains just leak out your nose a bit so im sure the kiddo would have survived
I was watching that too. Kid is a daredevil xD
Most British comment: "That would inconvenience the enemy."
...I feel like Lloyd is one of those guys who would just somehow still be alive after the end of the war no matter how long it went or where they put him...he'd just somehow live through all of it...still talking and his disposition unchanged from before the being deployed in the first place.
You see him in basic training and think "that guys as good as dead" and when your getting on the boat home four years later, up he'd walk to you and say "well, that certainly was something"
I would sincerely like to thank the QC guy from the Mauser factory for his efforts to aid the allies in the second World War.
I remember hearing about a massive issue with post war Israeli bought Czech made Mausers being absoutely awful for accuracy until it was discovered that the sights had been deliberately misaligned in the factory by the workers who were sabotaging the German war effort. The rifles were sold as surplus without anyone knowing about the sights being off.
lmao XD
Bloke - "If you push the bolt forward, the clip will come out automatically"
Lindy - "And quite noisily, an American might hear me!"
heh
TheGoldenCaulk as if an American could hear that over the sound of the garand pinging.
My favorite part of the video.
Where is this in the video?
@@98765zach if anyone can here the ping after their ears are vigorously screwed by a high velocity rifle round breaking the sound barrier.
I recognize you as a fellow follower of the gun christ. Please never change your avatar
Personally, if I had to go to war in the 1940's, I would take the M1 Garand because of the semi automatic fire. That advantage is extremely important in a fire fight.
Jairus The Adventurer! Tis true
The Germans in 1914 mistook SMLE fire for machine gun fire due to the speed that the british infantry could shoot. Plus you have 10 shots between reloading c.f. the 8 shot Garand. Both nice rifles though.
@@2bingtim the m1 garand has a much higher rate of fire than the Enfield. Not only is semi auto much faster than even the fastest bolt action, the en bloc is much faster than messing around with 2 stripper clips.
The m1 outclasses every contemporary full power rifle fielded at the time
The semi auto. The quick loading of the 8 round clips. The fairly fast single cartridge loading. The accuracy. The excellent safety mechanism (fit for a suprise emergency) The muzzle velocity.
Definitely my favorite weapon.
@@davecrupel2817 I like the Garand purely for the semi-auto, even if you don't need to rapid fire it the fact that there's no manual bolt to action between shots means your eyes never have to shift from the sights.
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Get out of here stalker!
I was gonna comment the same thing
1st bullet and jam,
GG NO RE
Rokers66 armor down
I love this idea of having someone shoot famous rifles for their first time and giving their first impressions. This was a very fun and informative video, thank you both!
What is this? A crossover episode??
Please be a bojack reference
I see what you did here
It's a great deal better than the Skallagrim crossover.
That's too much, man!
of course lloyd doesnt like the mauser. of course. and OF COURSE, HE PREFERS THE ENFIELD. OF COURSE.
Conner K Ward Seeing the Mauser that the bloke has got, I would t like it either. It's completely knackered. A better example would certainly be less awful.
Conner K Ward enfield is a better battlefield weapon
semi automatic lee enfield with k31 trigger and "beer keg" charging handle,chambered in 30-06 would be perfect
Honestly, the Enfield is a might fine rifle. And that's a beat-up Mauser, ach.
I have an Enfield and used to have a Mauser - if I had to go into battle with either one, I'd take the Enfield every time. But I wouldn't turn down a Mauser in good condition.
The - Lee-Enfield No.4 is a british weapon, i guess the joke went over your head.
I like how the automated subtitles in English interpret the car noise in the back ground as [Applause] and [Music]...
My day was crap and then .... Oh glorious day, its Lindybloke.
No, that's clearly Bloke in the Beige
MOOEYSMITH Blokebeige??
I'm gonna write something about this. G'day
I enjoy Lindybeige videos. But if there is a war, please dont put him in my squad. The fucky shooting I can tolerate, but the complaining between each round is horrific. Do the maths. If you put him on an automatic weapon it would be like having Ellen Degeneres next to you.
MOOEYSMITH you are so right.
I would think the advantage of a semi-auto is not just rapid fire at close range/during a charge (or when suppressing), but that it allows you to immediately focus on aiming again. In fact, you have to move neither your hand nor head, so you can basically never stop aiming in the first place.
Came home and got both notifications at the same time. My mind got blown, two amazing channels working together, loved it!
"The size of a human head...no, watermelon, watermelon!!" loled
Was unsure if he did not want to convey certain imagery or if a watermelon was a better size comparison. Still laughed.
" ici Jackal "
Aught-Six. Because 'Merica.
Jeff Griffith gay
Nah Americans always say thirty-ODD-six.
Colton Regal
If they're mentally handicapped, they do. Anybody who's spent 5 minutes around firearms knows it's aught.
UltimateMcNasty How does the rest of the world say it again.
@@nercksrule since us Americans came up with it we can call it whatever we please, and everyone I know here that uses and owns firearms says odd. Don't like the American way, oh well, you're wrong.. it's our round.
This collaboration excites me more than it should.
Lol beginning was like something from Monty Python. Love it!
Bloke: In my opinion, your buddy is straining and uncomfortable in his prone position on the table top because his rest is forcing him to hold the rifle much too high...subsequently, he's not putting the butt of the rifle into the meaty part of his shoulder pocket. (we called it "natural point of aim" in the USMC back in the day) I would think he'd be much more comfortable eliminating the rest you are using here and then supporting the rifle in his left hand with his elbows on the table top.
Yeah if he isn't comfortable with the kick he'd be better off just standing, his friend made the comment a certain gun wasn't built for a guy his size, but some 5'5 120 pound women can handle weapons like this just fine.
Opposite problem, actually: the rest was too low, and Lloyd was trying too hard to get the rifle low enough to fit on the rest, resulting in him shouldering the rifle WAY too low on his shoulder (which is why he had the problem with the butt slipping under his shoulder under recoil). ....But then again, when he was handling the rifles during the "discussion" part at the end of the video, he was *STILL* shouldering it way, way too low on his shoulder, which forced him to do a weird goose-neck to get down to the sights, so maybe that's just how Lloyd thinks it's supposed to be shouldered?
No offense, Lloyd, but your shooting position and body posture were all kinds of FUBAR. Did Bloke not give you any dry-fire pre-range instruction?
MedicalMan Well, 5'5" lady is a bit different than Lindy's like 7ft or whatever body.
I couldn't tell, but his body probably wasn't angled either , which can help .
I didn't need to use a rifle to realise that a butt in my shoulder could break my collarbone if I was prone and low.
If it had ever come to it my best hope would be to ground the butt on a rock and lie on it.
For an inexperienced shooter, Lindy does have some really good instincts in terms of gun mechanics and "feel" like he would know when a shot was off, or if there was a hang fire, and understood how the triggers worked
Fun video to watch! I hope we see more!
Love the 'non shooters' view of such famous rifles. Quite refreshing to see. Great channel bloke on the range, keep them coming. :)
Bloke, I'm envious of you getting to share your passion. It's obviously high time Lindybeige got to try shooting; he is a natural at it -- what a steady hand. As an American, I forget how complicated shooting is in England. It is a blast to introduce someone else to the fun of shooting!
The US rifle is named after a man, so the rifle should be pronounced Garand, but most people just pronounce it Garand
Thanks for clarifying.
Zack Shearer I've always pronsunced it as Garand, witch may sound funny.
Don't think I've ever heard it as Garand before.
The rifle was pronounced Garand, but the designer's name was pronounced Garand. Civilians would also say Garand instead sometimes.
The mans’ name is pronounced Gar-and, the rifle name is pronounced Ga-Rand.
I've said it on another of your videos, and I'll say it again here: You are truly a natural at shooting. You're shooting VERY WELL for a beginner -- using less than ideal sights, ungainly shooting position, and feeling unwarranted pain from recoil. Most beginners would be ready to give up at that point. You'd be very effective in a fight, Lindybeige.
The aught is used to _maintain an explicit distinction between digit zero and letter O_ particularly so with the pronunciation of calendar year numbers
Seeing as it is a US government cartridge aught ought to be correct while "o" being...well not even a number.
Then just put it in quotes to denote a colloquialism, Tommy.:p
Just think of it as a "naught" without the "n." And the Italian M1 isn't in .308 Winchester anyway, it's chambered in 7.62NATO [which is almost, but not quite, the same cartridge!] ;-D
yeah I always say o when I mean 0, something my grandmother taught me.
That is not my convension when naming years.
However, it was broadcast from London in what they decided to call the "naughties".
Normal people said what they wrote, "twenty oh six" and so on.
Many thanks to the both of you & all those involved. Great collaboration! Looking forward to more collaboration vids!
That's bloody brilliant! Keep the quality content coming chaps!
Great collaboration, and good discussion over the differences between the rifle models
Really glad you pointed out a No4 isn't an SMLE.
The Bloke and and Lindy!
How lucky for him you offered to show him the wonder of collection and shooting historical rifles!
7:33 the kid in the background has some good timing
Some of the Canadian made 303s had excellent sights,lots of people use them for their go to hunting rifles.The Swiss gun I have shot ,the accuracy was phenomenal,the ammo appears to be match grade.The 303s are extremely rugged and make a great hunting rifle and are still widely used in this area of Western Canada.
When it comes to the rear sight aperture having two types on the Lee Enfield, I'd say it probably has the same purpose as the switchable rear sight aperture on the M4 and M16. The smaller diameter sight would be best for daytime shooting, and the larger diameter sight is for low light shooting.
At least, that is what my old Drill Sergeant told us in Basic Training.
I'm pretty sure that the standard M-16 rear sight also changes your zero when you flip it. IIRC, the larger ring is zeroed for 0-200, and the smaller is for 200+ yards
It's great when 2 people you respect and follow on youtube come together and make a crossover.
Thanks guys!
Good to see you guys collaborating! I definitely agree with the whole sight protector thing. It is one of the reasons I like the SMLE sights over the sights on my M1903. It is easy to find the thin front sight because you have visual reference points on both the front and rear sights.
I love how nervous he is that he doesn't know if he's doing well.
no mosin?
Bloke on the Range I recommend a m39 mosin it's the best one
No need for Garbage Rods in that lineup...
Hes saving the worst for last Id imagine.
AlphaOmega An M39 is basically an uncut piece of wood versus those bolt guns and M1.
Andrew Ellis
Uuhh, no? The Finns made the M39 into something akin to a K31 in quality. Hell, look at how they splice the stocks together with various styles of finger joints. The only thing Soviet on it is an antique receiver. The other nagants are basically junk, yes - but not the M39.
Lindy, for crissakes, STOP LIMP-WRISTING THE BOLT! Most bolt (and lever and pump) action guns function better when you work the action briskly and with a little bit of "oomph". If you gingerly baby it forward and back like that, you will induce additional failures. This is what caused the first jam with the Mauser: by slowly pushing the bolt forward, it allows the round to "pop" up out of the magazine well prematurely, and before the extractor claw can grab the rim.
You make it sound like having a semiautomatic weapon is not an enormous advantage in war. It absolutely is, unless somehow every single one of your rounds kills your enemy, which it won't.
In fairness, he did say it was about accuracy for a novice on a range, not a trained infantryman in combat. Having said that, in WW2 the British were always concerned about cost as well as running out of ammo. My late father in law was in the 50th Infantry Division from 42-46 and was amazed by the amount of equipment US troops had when he came across them. After speaking to a US infantryman and being told that the BAR was sometimes used when advancing across open ground for suppressing fire he tried it with his Bren, with 2 magazines taped together. He lost a stripe for wasting ammunition. He soon got it back as his company was running short of experienced men.
Eh, he brought up his perceived downsides to the garand (large open hole leading into the receiver and other stuff like weight) without bringing up the advantages it had as a semi automatic rifle. Which is fine I suppose, I remember when I was first learning about guns and how I understated the importance of the m1 being semi auto where other wwii rifles usually weren’t. Ig it’s a thing you realize is important once you spend some time learning about the topic. Lindybiege isnt really a gun guy so I can’t blame him for not understanding.
I'm impressed! That's actually quite respectable shooting for a beginner.
Remember when Lindy had two eyes... those were the days...
really enjoyed that video, Bloke was so patient and safe, Lindy was not too chatty.
Two of my favorite youtubies on one video? Pinch me I must be dreaming.
Barry and Berry as soon as lindy said swizterland i knew
Two of my favorite youtubies on one video? Pinch me I must be dreaming. me 2 so good!
hot doug its real
I was wondering how a Swiss rifle got into the hands of Lindybeige! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 superb!!!
Fantastic just found your channel through Lindy beige. Subscribed straight away. I love shooting.
Parka Hale sights on the Lee Enfield NO4 were what we used at Bisley during inter service shooting competitions
"an american might hear me!".
me, an american: wait till ya hear the m1 sound
3:23 "An American might hear me!" LMFAO Lindy priceless.
What did Bloke jr. do in the background? it looks like he is actually reading a book, but can that be, young people don't do that.
No headphones.
Oh okay, I wasn't sure how old he is. I would have estimated his age somewhere between 6 and 9 so he could have gone to school already. Also the learn to read thing was/is similar in Germany, children here learned or are still learning reading when they enter school which is when they are 6 or 7 years old.
Feroce or any normal German school until at least the beginning of the new millennia or even now. It is pretty normal in Germany , Austria and Switzerland to learn reading when you start school with 6 or 7.
That's weird. I was told that somehow I was able to read when I was 2 and I guess that's true because I can read since I can remember but even in kinder garden, in Poland, they taught us how to read and with each year, till the end of your education, they demand you to read more and more.
And this gets boring after you can read fluently. Can't even read the book you want because there's so much shit that school wants you to read... I started a book 1 week before the end of vacations last year and I can't finish it since then...
RUSSIAN SPY....
I've never been into guns. With the exception of WW2 rifles. I would kill for an experience like this! Awesome video
3:30
Even Lindy makes M1 Garand jokes
I like that the blackbirds are singing merrily throughout the whole of the shooting !
Inb4 Spandau memes
Rogerborg bren. Bren. Brenbrenbren. Brenbrenbrenbrenstupidspandaubrenbren huzzah!!!
PRIVATE PYLE! THERE YOU ARE!
TheGoldenCaulk Is this replacing Half in The Bag!?!
Is Lindybeige replacing Rich Evans?
PRIIIIIIVAAAAATE PYYYYLEEE GET THE FUCK OFF MY OBSTACLE
It's anybody else enjoying the background sound of the birds and the wet roads?
Given the fact that we Americans invented the .30-06 Springfield cartridge, we will tell you how it is pronounced. Good day, sir.
Does this rule apply to the English language?If it does then you've got some problems,dear Septic.
Lols. You used Our language to name it so no you won't tell us how to pronounce it.
I never got this either way, British '30-oh6' or US '30-ought6', surely it should '30-zero6' or '30-nought6'
Create your own language then you can tell us what to call it
@@dicky3340 win a war against us then tell us what we can and cant tell you
@@kain3991 you haven't won a war since 1945 😂😂
The weirdest S&M shooting bench I’ve ever seen in my life. Bloke on the range is a mighty fine practical joker.
7:39 I was almost yelling at my PC "Put the ears on! Please hurry!" It got me quite nervous.
Great video. That coat looks like something that might have been styled from the revolutionary war.
"I'm not used to shooting in metric"
5:10 the way bloke looks at the camera made me crack up lol
Glad to see you got him into the bondage!
Good video! Nice to see two of my favourite UA-camrs collaborating.
Lloyd hasn't shot a proper rifle before going to Switzerland and he shoots better than me. Guess I need to buy a .22 next time I have $150.
Nah, it's just bloody easy with the rifle sitting on a box, normly you would hold it bare hands
@AnPrime $100 for the rifle and $50 for a fuckton of ammo.
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It had to happen eventually! Hooray!
"Rounds pointing forward!" ;-)
He shot so freaking well, I envy him!
I love how you smile when he slates the Mauser. Lee Enfield all day for me.
My favorite pronunciation of Garand ever. people get so picky about it.
you guys should do videos together more often, this was awesome.
No Arisaka or Mosin-Nagant? For shame. :P
Theyre saving the worst for last I suppose.
sergeantbigmac The early Type 99s are good and what about the m39?
Yes those are both good examples, it was honestly just a joke. Ive handled enough clunky wartime Mosins that I thought others would get a laugh too.
Some people really hate on the mosins unfairly. Yeah the majority are worn out and pretty useless. But that's like buying a Rolls Royce with 500,000 miles on it, and when it breaks down on the way home you declare that all Rolls Royces are shit.
@TheVisigoth Maybe. Arisaka aren too hard to find in Australia where we pretty much have the strictest rule sfor countries that allow civilians to have guns. but then again we fought the japanese too so maybe thats why we have them
You two are truly UA-cam treasures.
Yes. terminology matters.
Wasn't all of these rifles made in the 3 to 4 moa standard? Mr.Beiges grouping is actually pretty darn good...
Do you have a Bren gun? Because the Bren gun is far superior to the horrible Spandau.
"Allies won the war, therefor all their weapons were superior! And if you reply with factually based arguments I'll just call you a fanboy and disregard your comment! Haha!"
-Lindybeige, """"""historian"""""".
+The Juice Careful there, mate. Too much salt is bad for you.
The AK47 is inferior to ww1 weaponry because the Soviets lost the Afghan War.
Spandau is/was an industrial suburb of Berlin many weapons were made there over the years none of which were called Spandau.
Owen Major he could never be carried by a horse because horses in battle or stupid just to continue the meme
almost 45mins of awesomeness! Great video you two
You can't shill me against the glorious Kar98k no matter how hard you try!
gonavygonavy They just had a bad rifle
Love the spontant "HUZZAH!" when bloke picks up the Lee-Enfield
I think Lindy would love to shoot a 6.5 Japanese or even a 7.7. The japanese rifles are some of the softest shooting fullsize rifles. My grandfather's war trophy 7.7 is a fantastic shooter. Hopefully the proliferation of youtube will bring back interest in the firearms and factory ammo could become more available as of right now... I have to cut down 30-06 cartridges and load my own.
I have yet to shoot my type 99 specifically because the ammo is so damn expensive. >:(
Yeah, its a painful thing. I don't really shoot much 30-06 but thankfully a lot of people with deep pockets do at some of the ranges I frequent and I snatch up all their left overs when they leave. I would say if there was any reason to learn reloading, owning a type 99 is totally the reason to do so. It's a great rifle and is criminally under appreciated. But i guess that's cause... all of what 2? whole guns used the ammo and most of the firearms were dumped into tokyo bay. *sigh*
What year of rifle? I was looking at them just because of how soft shooting I have heard they are, but finding a nice example is hard... or I find "last ditch" rifles that I wouldn't really trust.
the ping of the clip popping out of the M1 Garand got a lot of young solders killed the enemy learned how to exploit the noise it made and learned when to attack a solder with an empty rifle . but a smart solder could take advantage of this fact by dropping a empty clip on a rock to make the enemy pop there heads up and it worked to fairly good effect.
oh, the Reich between the second and the fourth... the best of them all. :D
"Required to care." Good line. I've had all four of these. The Garand and K31 are the only ones I kept.
Lindybeige, excellent precision, terrible accuracy.
Ray Bingo in more ways than one!
@@madcowrebel4216 i think the sights plagued him more
@@osmacar5331 The way they were talking about the sights made me think of microscopy work.
@@myparceltape1169 lol
Really enjoyed this video, not sure how I haven't come across your channel before. You have earned a subscriber sir. well done!
You two make a lovely couple.
Here we see who trained Lindybeige to be such a good shot! Really enjoyed it, will come back for more!
Dear Mr. Beige: If you ever find yourself in the USA, anywhere near the upper midwest, send me a message and I'll teach you good shooting stances... :)
-Infantry/AFG vet, gunsmith, avid gun geek. :D
I love Lloyd's impartiality here, a lot of internet people seem to get very hot headed about which country had the best gun during a war that happened generations ago (never understood that). Whereas, in reality, they were all in development for a long time and thus all equally capable of putting holes in someone from a distance in the hands of your common soldier.
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As an American, that was issued an M16-A1 and never relied on these presented rifles in combat I can only go on my sporting experience and historical knowledge. My favorite would also be the No. 4. I have owned several and love their ergonomic advantages. Yes, the Garrand is semi-auto with 8 rounds, but the Enfield is 10 rounds with a very fast bolt that can be worked very quickly. As for accuracy, I would choose a rifle not included in your group, I presume because of age; though the Mauser is actually an older design. I would choose a Springfield 1903 A1 for accuracy. But I have seen MOA #4s. My friend has a Savage #4 that is the slickest action I have ever seen. Nice comparison video.
Don't you mean "3 ought 3" on the enfield?
And the Garand was using three ought eight :)
Thanks, Bloke, for a first exposure to Lindybeige. He appears a bit bonkers, so I'll have to go check out a bunch of his vids. The two of you were quite enjoyable to watch together.
How on earth have the English won so many wars?
Bloke on the Range Fair. This was a very entertaining video to watch for some reason.
True. On the other hand, the English did sometime the oposite and lost. I.E. Hundred Years War -> They just start with a massive breakthrought, then they just muddle on through for a while, then they fought eachother and get their arse kicked.
Cunning; You get the French to help you beat the Germans, the Germans to help you beat the French, and the French and the Germans to help you beat the Russians..
Because they inhabit an island. They can afford making some failures, without being conpuered ;-)
they usually tend to muddle through, and this makes them unpredictable and dangerous
Mr. Lloyd at the end: "And on that bombshell, we'll end." Bloke- and some more stuff so we can end on a fizzle. [Lloyd cries internally.] I'd really like to make him aim at dirt brown moving targets while winded. He'd see the differences then. Also not having your sight picture disturbed makes a huge difference in the speed of followup or picking up a miss.
So the big weaponry expert who brought us videos like "Spandau vs. Bren" has never fired a rifle before? Weird... ;)
In the UK it is slightly hard to get hold of weaponry
It's more at close range where the M1 comes into it's own, you can fire eight times in only a few seconds where the guys with bolt actions would be panicking and trying to run their bolts, if i was say fighting street to street where i'm only say.....50 feet or closer? M1 will win 10 out of 10 times.
Also as i mentioned, less going on in a panic, as all you need to do is squeeze the trigger and it goes bang, where you need fine-ish motor skills to run a bolt action [this could be remedied by say a straight pull, just back and forth, no 90 degree turn.]
the Reich between the 2nd and 4th
there has not been a 4th yet....
Yet....
:D cant wait
The Happy Frog The EU is a Fourth Reich, by choice this time
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