Lindybeige's 4 Mad Minutes! Swiss K31, Mauser Kar98k, Lee-Enfield No.4 and US M1 Garand
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Lloyd, of the Parish of Lindybeige rapid fires four rifles under so-called "Mad Minute" conditions - a Swiss Schmidt-Rubin K31, Mauser Kar98k, a Lee-Enfield No.4 and a US M1 Garand. How did he get on?
Mike K31: • Mad Minute Series: Swi...
Mike Kar98k: • Mad Minute Series: Mau...
Mike No.4: • Mad Minute Series: Lee...
Mike M1: • Mad Minute: M1 Garand
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First!
I have never done that before. May this comment be swamped by many later much better ones.
Well. This just seems a little bit rigged.
Pretty good for first time
Agreed with "diablo275754867862". Solid first first attempt. Let's see if his second first attempt will be as good, or if it was just beginner's luck!
I have just down-voted my own comment.
Too late - You've Been Pinned :D
Watching it again, I do notice that I work the bolt of the Lee Enfield a lot faster than the Mauser.
Lindybeige your first five rounds were really tight on the mauser, was the ever decreasing precision caused by the heat?
Next time do it with the plate armor to protect the collarbone!
What will it take for you to come to America to shoot guns
Alex Akai oh god yes please, if possible with portraits of Charles de Gaulle as targets
Correct body position will do that
You're welcome, Lloyd.
The ultimate trio: Lloyd, Bloke, and Ian from Forgotten Weapons. The geekery would collapse under its own mass and for a black hole.
Lloyd has already teamed up with The Chieftain twice (I think) so there is that.
Bernhard Kast from Military History (Visualized, Verbalized, for Adults) and Bismarck from Military Aviation History might also pitch in...
Don't forget The Mighty Jingles
Dont forget karl from inrange... and throw in mark Novak, and Othias from c&arsenal
Ya know what? Throw in hickock.
"This rifle is now uncomfortably hot." I love the stoicism when he says that
Lindybeige is a fine shot, draft him now.
Much, much better at then expected....
Good eyesight, steady hand, good instructor.
hadn't he practiced archery before this? other martial forms? i think the abilities to maintain a good stance and control your breathing transfer well to firearms.
@@BlackMasterRoshi and then add shooting between heartbeats.
If only he had a 2 inch longer butt.
I love bringing interested newbs to the range and seeing them enjoy themselves. No preconceived notions. No expectations regarding their abilities getting them down. Every step is a conscious decision. And upon seeing their results, anything remotely close to the center of the target is ecstatic
About 15 years ago, when the surplus scene here in the US hadn't gone crazy, there was a load of K31s in virtually new condition that could be had for around $100. I picked one up; very glad I did. Awesome rifle, and it's got the Swiss Army cross on it...just like my pocket knife :)
What a combination, two of my favorite hosts together, that's like peanut butter and crunchy bacon.
Who is peanut butter and who is crunchy bacon?
mountainhobo Eww
I just want to say, that's a disgusting combination.
axelord4ever
Found out Bloke got terminated when I couldn't see your comment.
Back up now.
I just want to say...I’m going to try that!
The big advantage of the M1 Garand Types compared to Bolt actions in warfare seem to be that you can stay far more easy with the sights on the target and crank out more follow up shots on moving targets. I think forgotten weapons talked about this in one of their Videos about Bolt Action Rifles.
I think there are implants you can get if you want a longer butt.
Longer butt pfffff
L O N G B U T T
lol
Giraffes shouldn't be allowed on the gun range.
There's also a song about it by Sir Mix A Lot
Honestly, this is my favorite collaboration that I've ever seen on youtube.
Hint hint: A beige "hold my tea and watch this" Loyd style shirt would be the best thing ever.
I just realised I need that shirt myself
Lloyd doesn't like tea, though.
He knows how to behave in a society, so if the occasion is tea, he will have a cuppa. But if there's shooting going on near, he'll have an excuse to give it to someone else and blast away!
@@davidvanau3182 loyd Christmas from dumb and dumber.
I understand disparaging the fast firing rate of the M1 if you have to buy your own ammo, or if you're in open field, static defense warfare. In an urban warfare scenario, however, NOTHING beat the M1 if you have to take a house or compartmented building. Among these rifles, that is.
Dont forget close range combat on pacific islands!
Also, the M1 sort of had to make up the difference for the US Army not really having a proper squad level machine gun when they entered the war. Between the BAR and the M1, an American squad could lay down as much or more than anyone else even without.
I heard also that the th US soldiers never had to get behind cover to rechamber the new round, but was able to wait until the german showed his head.
@chris younts I have heard that rumor as well. Seeing how loud the rifle is by itself, and how pitch battle is even louder, It would be nearly impossible to hear the "ping" even if you were the one with the garand. Also reloading the Garand by an experienced user is much faster than all of the bolt actions at the time by a fairly large degree. (Not having to worry about the stripper clip or replacing the bolt is very useful in fast reloads)
@chris younts In battle, as has been as has been debunked by WW2 Airborne Soldier Don Burgett, and many others, you do not hear a "ping". Burgett said, anyone who believed that, was never in combat.
Bloke, possibly the only man on earth who still uses a trackball mouse.
I need it due to an injury.
Redneck Fury there’s really no going back once you’ve used one. Especially if you do a lot of CAD. Decoupling movement from clicking can’t be overestimated for anything that involves precision. Rather like shooting reallyZ
Sooo much better than a mouse.
I still use one
I have been using them for decades.
No mosin? We demand to see you struggle with the garbage rod
ua-cam.com/video/bucl-Vwz2ms/v-deo.html so much struggle ;)
Five rounds per minute is perfectly fine when you're expected to use the rifle mostly as a spear anyway!
you must be joking lol
Mosin is a perfect choice for smacking people in the face with a buttstock for calling it like that.
When you have a properly functioning Mosin made to design specs, they aren't garbage at all... But most weren't exactly precisely made.
(6:42) "This one smells much fartier."
Next time on _All Guns Great and Small..._
Christopher Noel I
*Bronterre Freelove:* Your reply appears incomplete, so I'm not sure what you were trying to convey.
I turned the comment into a parody-reference to the TV series _All Creatures Great and Small,_ in which at some point someone inquired the owner about how their farty dog was doing. Mother used to watch the series; I preferred _Are You Being Served?_
Christopher Noel you’re free I take it?
+1 for the James Herriot reference
M1 thumb happens during close order drill, specifically, “inspection arms”. The gun is unloaded and the soldier is at attention. When the order is given, the rifle is brought to port arms and the bolt is locked open with the left thumb. The rifle is inspected and the command “port arms” is given. The soldier must depress the follower with his right thumb, releasing the bolt catch while holding the bolt open with the edge of his right hand. On the “arms” part of the command, the soldier quickly extracts his right thumb and hand, allowing the bolt to close. It closed very fast under impulse of the operating rod spring. Here, your “below-average” soldier allows his thumb to be crushed by the bolt. On the range while loading a full clip, the friction of stripping out the tightly packed top round slows the bolt dramatically, often requiring (as happened 3 times in the video) a blow to the op rod handle with the heel of the hand. Also, the bolt face captures the base of the cartridge and pushes it into the chamber. One’s thumb cannot, therefore, occupy the same space as the cartridge and is safe from being crushed.
It most certainly can and has happened with full enbloc clips as well.
I shoot “Garand” matches regularly. In the 2, 10-round rapid-fire events (sitting and prone) there is no danger, even when loading the 1st two rounds in a separate clip (tricky unless you use a special 2-round clip). It is possible to close the bolt over a full clip with difficulty, forcing it down against the compressed op rod spring. Conceivably, one could get his thumb caught as the bolt scrapes over the top round. In Hatcher’s Book of the Garand, this is never described. However, some think it is worth it to chamber a 9th round over the full clip. I haven’t tried it because I’m not sure how the added friction between the bottom of the bolt and the top round would affect cycling. The gun wasn’t designed for this. Someone who managed to get M1 thumb doing this would probably deserve it!
"if you actually made use of the garand's rate of fire you would just run out of ammunition faster"
I think you're a little late for the 1890s 'backwards military strategy' olympics
@toeff7852 despite everything you think, ammo will ALWAYS be cheaper than the life of any soldier. This has always been true. Do you have any idea of the costs involved with finding people and training them? The U.S. modernly spends something like 50-75k average per soldier by the end of basic boot camp, let alone additional training to become a paratrooper, medic, tanker, machine gunner,etc. Hell, its not an exaggeration when they say that the cost of a military pilot's training over 2-3 years is more than a million dollars. An average soldier is expensive and ammo is cheap. I cringed when i heard him try to say something about ammo costs cause it may seem expensive to shoot as a hobby at 30-70 cents a round but that's cheap in military terms when you compare the operational costs of a tank, warship, or jet plane. It literally costs $15,000 just to start up a fighter jet for 5 minutes in terms of wear on engine parts and jet fuel.
and yet the US army doesn't put a full auto setting on their main issue rifle for that exact reason.
and @adamc the real concern is running out of ammo in the moment not how much the ammo costs.
@toeff7852 so you think the Taliban, or ISIS are innocent people. You dont get to decide who's innocent until you've had some hadji screaming death to America, death to infidel while he trys to blow you and your buddies up. Get an education instead of licking up the propaganda that the one world government lackies are pushing
@@nilloc93 yes they do. The m16 is a select fire rifle. We just learn when the right time to use full auto. Its a tool in our arsenal. But you probably dont understand the concept of suppressive fire and small unit tactics
I say. Firing more than one round every 3 seconds would be unsporting, Old Boy -and the British Empire won’t stand for it! No! Not sporting at t’all!
Just love the sound and sight of these classic military gems
The content's been so good lately, I completely forgot about the mad minutes! Glad to see them return.
Thanks - I'm just uploading the next one in the series right now, which will launch publicly in the next few weeks, most likely.
Oooh goody. These are my favourite videos of yours. I find the difference between yourself and Lindybeige quite fascinating. With Lindybeige, all the bolt-actions are basically comparable, but in your experienced hands, there are clear differences. Interested to see if this continues.
Very interesting and surprising results. It was great to see an unbiased,novice shooter complete this. Lindy is an incredible student!
I am actually amazed that that K31 put not only all of them in an apple, but was shooting through the same hole. People really aren't joking when they praise them.
Bloke and Lindybeige: my two favorite Brits on UA-cam.
I very much enjoyed this video. I've fired all but the K31. I owned a No.4 for over twenty years and shot it enough that I wish American bolt action rifles were set up like the Lee Enfield bolt: cocking on closing the bolt. It makes for a much smoother operation of the action. The wood wrapped barrel had a tendency to distort your sight picture from the heat haze off the barrel, but I loved the adjustable flip-up sight for long distance. I sold my Lee-Enfield so I could buy a .308Win bolt action rifle. I ended up with a Mossberg MVP Scout. Sweet shooter, but I miss the Lee-Enfield bolt. Oh, well.
Keep up the good work.
i love the happy face Lloyd makes upon the news of the Kar98k being fixed.
This was a really interesting video... the combination of a novice shooter (who's also well able to articulate himself) and a good instructor, who's also able to explain the process, works effectively.
Lindybeige and Bloke on the Range collaborations are great, informative and highly enjoyable.
Thanks
That was awesome. Really enjoyed that side by side comparison.
It's super team up week, what a treat! MHV and Chieftan talk tanks over on Military History Visualised, and now this! Wonderful.
This is the first video I've seen of you two together. You guys work great together!
I thoroughly enjoyed watching that, well done Lloyd and well done Bloke. Apart from that it was also quite interesting.
Lloyd's shooting skills are seriously impressive. Great video, guys.
Very fascinating. The detail is much appreciated. I am now a subscriber. Thank you!
Thank you Lloyd for gesturing to the rifles very early on in this video, I could well have missed them without your help. Titter!
I must admit to feeling a bit like an auto racing fan while I watched him shoot the Garand. I secretly...and guiltily.....expected him to get an M1 thumb with that interesting reloading “technique”. Either way, well done!
Nicely done experiment, experienced shooter, inexperienced shooter and each shooter tests all guns. Very interesting results.
You Chaps are very entertaining. Nicely done !
Loving the French pronouncing of Garand. You guys are great! Very fair comparison!
Oh I forgot to say, this is only the second video I have watched on this channel (the other being Lloyd shooting on the outdoor range with the k-31). And I ran across this channel by watching Lloyd’s channel. Anyways great channel you got Bloke OTR!!! Definitely a new subscriber, and a big fan!!! Cheers🍻
Love the No. 4 Mk. 1, especially the sights.
I've run some historical themed comps where I gave even M1 Garands a run for their money.
Love the videos. Love the old war rifles. I too am a old war rifle fanatic. Sure i like my modern rifles but there is something to be said for old battle tested rifles. Again, love your videos.
Lindy's star power showing trough again.
A fun and informative video. Thanks.
(3:24) Lindy Tell of Switzerland.
Most enjoyable. Thank you!
What Lindybeige says towards the end sums up all of these rifles. That they were designed to be used by the average squaddie. As such they must be easy to train on and operate but effective and reliable. All of these rifles fitted this criteria well.
nice video, nice to see the garand accurate! well done
Tisk, Tisk, Bloke. It's GA-rand, as determined by Ian of Forgotten Weapons just the other day.
lindybeige not understanding the importance of quick follow up shots in a battle rifle pretty much sums up lindybeige
The M1 seems to be the best Rifle, not only much faster, but also more accurate. The grouping of the Mauser is literally the same, if not a bit better then the Enfield.
Good show! A round of applause for Mr beige
You guys did a good job with the video. It was interesting to watch. The Novice shooter did very well, he has some natural talent. An AR15 with a red dot and 30 round mags would have of course been much faster, but it was interesting to see what a novice could do with the old iron.
well done lads what a cracking time now for a pot of tea!
Loved this because I love the Lee Enfield no 4
Let him compare a MG42 and a Bren :-P
Not a very fair comparrison there buddy
If I remember aright, Lindybeige has done the relevant comparison, and it boils down to the task. Accuracy, Bren. Area denial, MG 42, but with realproblems re ammunition supply.
@@alecblunden8615 Lindy Beige blundered his way over a topic he knew nothing about and made a pig's breakfast of the whole thing.
To the point where Ian from Forgotten Weapons had to step in and correct him in the comments.
It would be quite instructional for him to fire both guns actually as he might actually learn something.
Great video!
Agree with narrator. Watching old canadian army footage when I was in army, of them doing mad minute. They didn’t remove butt stock from shoulder. And in many pics, they held bolt in mid had between fingers and didn’t seem to try to put hand around hand area of stock. They pressed butt stock into shoulder with forestock.
Don't mess with me..just dont mess with me. Love it, thats what wins wars😁
Your man is correct about the SMLE's stock length - there were three sizes. The correct length for the shooter allowed the SMLE to remain at the shoulder when working the bolt due to it's short backward travel which meant that the shooter never lost the eye line.
My RAF Station Warrant Officer - a former Airgunner in Lancaster bombers - could work that bolt almost faster than the eye could follow.
Brilliant weapon.
Good shooting Lloyd!!
Best collaboration in youtube history perhaps... Bloke go drag Loyd to Arizona or Finland!
Lindy is an awesome shot!! I’m impressed
You should be. I bloody was! Man's a natural, and took instruction very easily.
I have had 3 of the 4, but the Enfield and Yugo Mauser were well worn. Nether would shoot well at 100 yards. I trimmed the Yugo to 18" making a brush gun, and that straightened it right out. Nice shooter after that. The Garand is in better shape and shoots fine. It needs an op rod overhaul, but is otherwise in great shape. All are guns I always wanted but never thought I would have. All were found by staying awake for the killer deal. All are well worth the effort, and wait.
Never heard it referred to as a clavicle. Then again the U.S. is a pretty big country and even we have regional variations on words. Which reminds me, I could really go for some pop.
Nice video. Thank you
Nice Shootin', Tex.
Nice backdrop in your studio! I see you listened to your patrons ;)
GO LINDY (っ◔◡◔)っ ❤
Impressive! I just saw your outdoor range clip. Most will tend to close one eye, but if one wants to stay alive you want to be aware.
Chicago, Il. U.S.A.
Out of these four weapons I'd always want to use the M1, because of that semi-auto aspect. For a general purpose rifle, being able to shoot and then shoot again is something I'd regard as a pretty high priority. So not so much about volume of fire but ability to react to threats.
If I manage to shoot a guy with the M1 and another guy runs up behind him, I can shoot again. If it's a bolt action, well, I've got that to worry about first. And sure you could just pull out a pistol but with the M1 you can just pull the trigger.
And of course, the ease of aiming without needing to move your head after every shot.
Yes, the Enfield can do that too, but not as easily.
Well done!
I wonder how he would do with an M1 Carbine.
probably better at this range. The Carbine has less recoil, and the extra power of the 30-06 wouldn't make much difference.
Definitely much better. Less recoil, very easy reloads, 15 round magazine.
Then again M1 carbine is a very small rifle and Lindys stature may make it a rather poor choice.
I doubt it. He would just hold his cheek weld and pull the trigger as safely and rapidly as he saw fit. No need to reposition his head, as the bolt remains inside the action, like the M1 Garand. Being a softer recoiling, pistol class round, he could probably get off 15 shots in 20 seconds or so, totalling around 45 rounds in a mad minute, including easy magazine changes.
M1A2 with a fun switch and a 30 rd mag would be fantastic to see.
Good job Lloyd!
I'm not a rifle buff and I found this very interesting and just alround good
The grandpappy Garand abides still. Thanks for the entertainment.
Mucking Fagic!
Two of my favourite British eccentrics with a gun bias!
I relish the day when we meet at short Siberia!
The lee enfield should be held differently at a”mad minute”, you should hold the bolt handle, and shoot with the ring finger, this is how the British did It, but great video!
That technique was not in the manual, and isn't necessary for Practice 22 since it's only 15 rounds. The full-blown unlimited mad minute was an instructor demo.
I picked up a K31. One down, three to go before I can try this myself!
'Long Neck' Lindy.
😂
After 2 reloads Lloyd got scarily accurate with that M1
Next round, have him do a Mad Minute with an AR-15. ;)
For a novice that was quite an impressive showing.
I know this is old but hell...props to Lindy as he is a pretty good shot for an amateur.
Good job Lindy.
I was waiting for that garand thumb to happen. Glad it didn't.
Happened to me once, got me pretty good.
Heh. You should see the number of comments on vids claiming that it can only happen during arms inspection drill...... Having seen it happen to someone with a sloppy rifle and sloppy clip myself, I know full well that it *can* happen when loading 8 rounds too...
The power of beige!!
Well done Lindybeige!
On the enfield for quick shooting you run the bolt with your thumb and forefinger, while not letting go. You pull the trigger with your middle finger.
The record for the mad minute with the enfield is 38 aimed rounds.
At least Lindy would not have to worry about those VIKINGS...lol
John Deeter hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
He can end them rightly
AHHHHHHgh...
Just seeing this, almost a year afterward. Next Challenge, Get Lindybeige to shoot a full High Power course of fire with each rifle. You can do the 10 round at each stage or run 2 sets at each station (10 rounds slow fire standing at 200 yards (or meters depending on your range) 10 rounds standing to sitting at 200, 10 rounds standing to prone at 300 and finally 10 rounds slow fire at 600. (40 round course of fire or 80 if your shoulder and collar bone are up to snuff.) I get the feeling that if Lindybeige hasn't already improved from marksman to sharpshooter he will if you keep him at it. Just remember wearing a shooting coat in the sun during summer when the temperature passes over normal body heat while trying to shoot at a small black dot in the distance is the ultimate in FUN!!! Thanks and keep the videos coming.
more range videos please Lloyd
You did great Lloyd.
A soldier with practice and skill in the use of the Garand would be - and was - a formidable unit on any battlefield.
Still like the Lee-Enfield though, super smooth bolt action as I recall from school days!
I am impressed by Lloyd's shooting. I've seen novice shooters who could not even hit the target - flyers everywhere. I have to wonder how he will do if he trains another year on any of these rifles.
God damn do I love this channel
I grew up with the Lee Enfield, literally. Granddad who was in the war for 6 years (Royal Artillery ) taught me the finger and thumb method when I was 8. I joined the Army Cadets age 14 and learnt to shoot the SMLE (Aust Lithgow No1 Mk3 ) very well and I own a mint No4 Mk1.
BUT If I were given a choice of WWII rifles I'd pick the Garand every time. France, Italy, The Pacific and Germany yes. Desert warfare? maybe not, perhaps the No4 would be my choice there.
what a great video
The only one I've shot is the Lee-Enfield No. 4. I shot a lot of rounds through a No.4 and a .22 LR tubed version (same weight, sights, etc.) when I was at school in England in the 1960s. Our cadet force was upgraded from the WW1 rifles to the WW2 rifles when the Gloucestershire Regiment was re-equipped with SLRs around 1963. I was in the school shooting team. We used the .303s on the outdoor range (200 and 500 metres) and the .22 tubed version in the indoor range (25 metres). .22 LR ammo is a lot cheaper.
If you want to be very accurate, you need to use a sling. Not the standard army sling that starts near the butt, but one that goes from in front of the magazine to an anchor point on the fore stock. You slide your arm from the left into the sling, do a quick swirl, wrapping the sling round your arm, and grab the fore stock with your left hand. Bring the butt up to your shoulder and pull it tight. The rifle is locked into position with your cheek bone on the stock.You need to adjust the length of the sling to fit your body. Rapid fire with the single-shot, tubed version is simple. Keep the rifle locked into your shoulder. and just recline to the right a bit, pick up the new round with your right hand, close the bolt with your right hand, finger on the trigger and a shot's gone own range. Repeat. One shot per second.
Same thing, more or less, with the .303 No. 4. Same sling, but it's not single shot. The charger for the 10 round magazine can sometimes give a bit of resistance but, once loaded, all's brilliant. The bolt action slides like silk. Trained British soldiers in WW1, using its predecessor, could maintain 50 to 55 aimed shots per minute. The No. 4 is a beautiful thing and very accurate.
A .303 can hurt if you hold it loosely. Pull it into your shoulder and you'll be fine.
I'd be curious to see the Garand against other semi-autos of WW2, like Gewher 43 and SKS. Might be a bit more of a fair comparison because obviously a semi-auto is going to beat a bolt action in a speed shoot.
Great video, look forward to many more!
You mean SVT 40
> 2nd time Lindybiege ever fired a rifle.
> Literally meeting standards of many WW2 military forces
My guyyy
Well exceeding the standards, indeed...
WAIT A MINUTE! Is there a disagreement about the Spandau-term?