Liquid AIO Cooling In The Cooler Master NR200, Part 2: Fans, Fans, and More Fans

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  • In this second part of the Cooler Master NR200 liquid AIO cooling series, I discuss additional fan arrangements beyond the two case fans and two rad fans, why you should seriously consider at a minimum adding bottom fans to the case when running an AIO, and also cover some additional advanced configurations to get the most cooling for your hard earned dollar. I'll also cover some AIO installation tips for this case.
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  • @devilmaycryagency
    @devilmaycryagency 3 роки тому +2

    Thank you so much for doing all this testing. I started looking into this case after being fed up with the H1 thermals and this helps a ton.

  • @WiseGuy3683
    @WiseGuy3683 3 роки тому +6

    This series is so dang useful dude! You did an excellent job here!

  • @rrr92462
    @rrr92462 8 місяців тому

    Great advice on side mounting the radiator on the NR200. I just set up my Asus ITX Z790 14900K and came across your vid. Worked great.
    Thanks!

  • @cortlong
    @cortlong 3 роки тому +7

    Damn dude you took everyone suggestions, completely ironed them out and killed it.
    Plus that intro was fuckin epic.
    Glad I subbed man.

  • @sh_claire9284
    @sh_claire9284 Рік тому +1

    I love your channel and your style of presentation. It was a huge help to my build and I’m so happy with how it turned out. Thank you!!!

  • @inmypaants
    @inmypaants 3 роки тому +8

    Yessss! More NR200, love it!

  • @atziluth12
    @atziluth12 3 роки тому +1

    Hey, loving your videos! Down to earth, no fuzz no stupid things. Exactly how i like them! Subscribed!

  • @makatron
    @makatron 3 роки тому

    This series on the NR200 is fantastic, instant subbed

  • @Airspar
    @Airspar 3 роки тому +9

    Excellent and in depth review of liquid cooling in this case. All i could ask for and more,

  • @j4ckcalico
    @j4ckcalico 3 роки тому

    Awesome video, as the entire NR200 series. I would love to see added into the comparison push-pull setup with slim 15mm noctua fans, as well as aio fans as push vs pull. Finally, adding a 280mm aio into he test would be awesome!

  • @turbo280zzz
    @turbo280zzz 3 роки тому +1

    Can't wait for the air cooler roundup!

  • @3rutu5
    @3rutu5 3 роки тому

    love your work mate, i cant beleive i missed this video. I had my 5800x running under a stress test at 77deg and games in the mid 60's using the stock kraken fans, but it was loud (in this case), had a delivery of the P12's today, replaced the rad fans and it got hotter, then replacing them back to the NZXT ones and cinebench crashes hitting 85deg and going above. I have the bottom fans under the rtx 3070 and put the P12's back in, just need to remove the 92mm rear fan. great videos to watch, probably watch it a few more times before i give it another go.

  • @wcg66
    @wcg66 3 роки тому

    Great video. Still waiting on my NR200P to ship. This is one of my most anticipated builds. Thanks for the great information.

    • @MachinesMore
      @MachinesMore  3 роки тому

      You're welcome. Me too! Things will look different with that glass panel so will retest the configs with a different AIO.

  • @AndreiE190
    @AndreiE190 3 роки тому

    I knew NOCTUA would step up as a rad fans replacement option! We r on the same page Machine 😉 As always, waiting for the next one!

  • @boyiinGG
    @boyiinGG 3 роки тому

    Thank you for putting so much time and effort for this video Sir, really helps!

  • @toriigatedigital
    @toriigatedigital 3 роки тому

    production value is going ma brotha! good job!

  • @TrackMackovision
    @TrackMackovision 3 роки тому +2

    Great vids! Waiting on my NR200P here in Canada, so excited.
    I think it'll be a great case for the 3080 founders, I'm planning on putting some slim Noctua 120mm intake fans on the bottom mount to help with airflow, and go with the H100x AIO. I'll probably swap the stock AIO fans for some Noctua A12x25, they're tough to find at a reasonable price though.
    Great series, gave me lots to think about!

  • @3rdchild
    @3rdchild 3 роки тому

    Bro you are my go to for all my NR200 needs. Thank you and subbed.

  • @TheJiAltair
    @TheJiAltair 3 роки тому +3

    Waiting eagerly for the air cooling video, my old AIO is unbearably noisy but I'm waiting for your testing of the Fuma 2 :)

  • @EthyrielY
    @EthyrielY 3 роки тому +1

    Your videos have helped me take my NR200 to the next level- took my 5900x from 4.35GHz all core to 4.45GHz, just by flipping some fans. Thank you for your contributions!

    • @MachinesMore
      @MachinesMore  3 роки тому

      That's a good bump up... and a good all-core clock. Are you getting good single core scores?

    • @EthyrielY
      @EthyrielY 3 роки тому

      @@MachinesMore Fairly good! Got a 1574 ; I haven't dabbled in forcing clocks higher and this is just letting PBO do its thing, so it's only at 4.7GHz on the core despite having thermal headroom. Much better than it was before, though!

  • @breadtoucher
    @breadtoucher 3 роки тому +5

    This time I just clicked like even before the video started. Fantastic series really!

    • @MachinesMore
      @MachinesMore  3 роки тому

      Cheers!

    • @AndreiE190
      @AndreiE190 3 роки тому +1

      Hahaha 😂 I did the same. I became addicted! Thanks for the questions answered ! Looking forward to 3000 series. Great work!

  • @iranicus
    @iranicus 3 роки тому

    Thanks a lot, saving this vid when I finish collecting the parts for my NR200 build, will be using the Arctic Freezer II 280mm AIO also. Just need to get the PSU (on order), memory and storage now. Decided to go with the Corsair SF750W. I was thinking on changing the fans of the AIO to Noctua's but from watching a video by Optimum Tech on fan comparison there was very little difference with the Arctic fans being very good both performance and sound-wise anyway.

  • @Ironmanstl
    @Ironmanstl 2 роки тому +1

    Great video. Inspired me to do a NR200 build. I use the Noctua NF-P12 redux-1700 PWM in my builds. More air flow and static pressure. $14 on amazon.

  • @ProblematicBitch
    @ProblematicBitch 3 роки тому

    thankyou for these videos regarding the nr200, i am going to use it for my next build with a 3080 and your videos are very helpful

    • @MachinesMore
      @MachinesMore  3 роки тому

      Glad to help and thanks for checking in!

  • @efgamerjunk
    @efgamerjunk 3 роки тому

    thanks man these videos are really helpful. keep up the good work

  • @RanduMandu
    @RanduMandu 3 роки тому

    Loving the content. Keep it coming.

  • @samgoff5289
    @samgoff5289 3 роки тому

    Another great video bro! Keep it up

  • @RichardMenegassoMason
    @RichardMenegassoMason 2 роки тому

    Great job man. This video helped me a lot.

  • @lzeta69
    @lzeta69 5 місяців тому

    Thank you so much for this wonderfull work, I'm going to eliminate the 92mm (exaust) one.

  • @algokiddo
    @algokiddo 2 роки тому

    Great video man! Thank you!

  • @fred_derf
    @fred_derf 3 роки тому +6

    You've made a great improvement reducing the reverb.

    • @MachinesMore
      @MachinesMore  3 роки тому +3

      Thanks to you! I moved the mic around per your recommendation and it made a huge difference. Again, appreciate your feedback and tips.

  • @jonathanpsimon
    @jonathanpsimon 2 роки тому

    Dude you're a king

  • @MiteshParmar
    @MiteshParmar 3 роки тому

    Great video!

  • @toriigatedigital
    @toriigatedigital 3 роки тому

    Noctua have a road map on their site showing that the awesome fans will come in black chromax edition 1st quarter of next year along with a ua12 heat sink. I'm looking to pick one up once it comes out.

  • @vaxtrixradicalbro4295
    @vaxtrixradicalbro4295 2 роки тому +1

    Nice video! I have a question? How did you connect 6 fans on your gigabyte mobo which only has 2 fan headers? And how would you control all those fans to work for specific components like the radiator, cpu, and/or gpu?

  • @wohoo245
    @wohoo245 2 роки тому

    hello Sir, I just purchased this case along with a krakenz z53 AIO. Is it possible for me to place the radiator on top instead to the side? any tips would be helpfull aswell

  • @dunstondiaz
    @dunstondiaz 3 роки тому

    My NZXT Kraken X52 pump tubes rubbing against the G.Skill Tident Z ram and pushing it to the side, I am upgrading the ram to 32GB, what’s the best Ram module that will not interfere with the pump tubes?

  • @MoJoNinjaGarage
    @MoJoNinjaGarage 2 роки тому

    I got a question for you, I have nr200 I’m about to build. I’m using artic liquid cooler 120mm to cool cpu. I plan to use 2 120mm slim fans at the bottom to assist the gpu (rtx 3060ti) and 2 artic pwm 120 fans for the top. I’m thinking of adding a120 or 140 slim fan next to the 120mm aio radiator and both of them will be et as intake from the side. What do you think about that set up?

  • @TheHulkminator
    @TheHulkminator 3 роки тому

    Please I have a similar setup and going in circles with the direction of the fans, @21:45, the fans are pushing the hot air out or sucking cold air in? and one more thing I got the Arctic Cooler II 280, should I swap the attached fans with Noctua 140mm ones? thank you so much! can't wait for your answer!

  • @xalmak
    @xalmak 3 роки тому

    What do you think about placing the tubes on the left side instead of the right to allow for the tubes to extend a bit more and rest on the PSU then extend and make a turn to the pump. What that be ok/safe or as good as the current orientation in the video being on the right side.

  • @665522ish
    @665522ish 2 роки тому

    Hi! Really love the video. I have a gigabyte vision 3080. And want to mount a be quiet silent loop 2 240 aio as intake. Then have the 2 120s that come with with case as top exhaust. Then I got 2 noctua low profile as bottom intake, do you think this is ideal and all will fit? Thanks!

  • @cozmosland
    @cozmosland 3 роки тому

    im not sure if you covered it but what was a temperature difference running the radiator on the bottom vs running it on the side. Thanks!

  • @cxmxron_7964
    @cxmxron_7964 3 роки тому

    Is there any chance you can do thermal tests with a 240mm aio whilst using an internal hdd.

  • @kcmanuel
    @kcmanuel 3 роки тому

    Any testing done on the x53 at the bottom with push/pull setup and the GPU mounted vertically?
    Thanks for the videos BTW

  • @trisaiannaidu847
    @trisaiannaidu847 3 роки тому

    Can I mount a 120m aio on the top or on the side ?

  • @curiouscao
    @curiouscao 3 роки тому

    How are you handling the limited fan headers on MOBO? Thanks!

  • @biiktoria
    @biiktoria 2 роки тому

    i have a question, about that little fan on aorus x570 i board, i have same board and that fan is noisy as heck and it really annoys me, do have any problem like that or do you have any recommendation for my problem :D thanks in advance

  • @cardosodouglas
    @cardosodouglas 3 роки тому

    What about using the 92mm as intake, one of the radiator fans as intake to help with vrms cooling and the second one as exhaust? could this somehow help anything?

  • @Boros777
    @Boros777 3 роки тому

    What do you think of deshrouding the gpu here?

  • @demetrizuev258
    @demetrizuev258 3 роки тому

    I'm running NR200 with six total fans: two slim 120 Noctuas at the bottom as intake, two 140 Noctuas on the side as intake for the Arctic Liquid Freezer II's radiator and two 120 Noctuas at the top as exhaust. However, my PC lives under the TV in a square shaped shelf, so there is about 2 inches of space above the case and 4-5 inches to the left where the rad is. Do you think this might cause hot air exhausted at the top to be sucked in again by side radiator fans? Maybe in my case a 92mm fan at the back of the case working as exhaust would be beneficial? What do you think?

  • @god-lightbulb
    @god-lightbulb 3 роки тому +1

    For placing bottom 15mm-thick fans at the base of the NR200 (which you say is recommended for really hot GPU's), the trouble is these big GPU's are so thick. Are you able to offer a guide as to what GPU-thickness is the maximum, beyond which it could block the installation of those bottom 15mm-thick fans? This would be useful when it comes to selecting GPU for the NR200.
    Regarding using the Radiator as Intake, does it make a difference if the fans are closer to the case-side-panel, or if the fans closer to the interior of the case? Which is better? In case builds on PC Partpicker, I see both variations.

  • @winkawak
    @winkawak 3 роки тому

    will a 322mm corsair icue h115i pro xt fit?

  • @rookie693
    @rookie693 3 роки тому +2

    Is this a good setup?
    2 bottom fans as intake
    2 top fans as exhaust
    Side mounted radiator 280mm or 240mm as intake?
    GPU ill get is the 3080 fe

  • @sztachu
    @sztachu 3 роки тому

    Does anyone know if Fractal Design Celsius+ S28 will fit in this case ? On paper it should, because the case supports up to 280mm AIO, but that cooler is pretty long even for 280mm.

  • @Javasius
    @Javasius 3 роки тому

    Can you not use a small 92mm aio on the rear as exhaust. I really want to see the results

  • @PetoLoco
    @PetoLoco 3 роки тому

    Love the 80s movie references.

  • @Imperfectlink.
    @Imperfectlink. 3 роки тому +1

    Jeez a Three Amigos reference. I'll be interested to see how RTX 3080 runs in this case.

  • @paulking4908
    @paulking4908 3 роки тому

    What power supply is being used?

  • @jasonkong5658
    @jasonkong5658 3 роки тому

    Been waiting patiently for the NR200(P) to come in stock in canada, earliest may be sept 16th. Thanks for all the effort put int this, kudos! Haven't seen many AIO 120mm setups in this case, I'm wondering if a 120 with the best fan you can get might be any good, while keeping real estate in this case in check

    • @MachinesMore
      @MachinesMore  3 роки тому +1

      Depends on your intended CPU. You should be able to go for a TDP like a R5 2600 or R5 3600 just fine on a 120. However, do keep in mind that if you’re going to run the rad on the bottom there are some compromises you will make as to the longevity of your unit, if the pump is in the CPU block. If space is a primary goal, and you’d be fine with a 120AIO, you can get similar cooling with even a small air cooler. No tubes, no coolant to leak, and it will just take up space around your motherboard area, vs spreading it out through the case.

  • @jakewu9916
    @jakewu9916 3 роки тому +1

    Excellent vid! Appreciate the recommendation of having 2 bottom fans. However, it's not really an option for a good number of 3-slot RTX 3000 cards (like 3080 FE and some custom 3090s). I'd love to learn the best arrangement without the bottom fans. Also curious to see if the rear fan will help exhaust the hot air dumped upwards by the FE cards.

    • @MachinesMore
      @MachinesMore  3 роки тому

      Howdy Jake- that's a fantastic question. I will be testing with the 3080 when it's in hand- I do think the issue with the 3080 is more so the unique airflow pattern. For best CPU thermals, your best bet is still going to be a side intake- due to the position of the radiator in relation to where the GPU takes in air, the AIO exhaust will have a less pronounced effect on the bottom intaking GPU. Keeping in mind that there are no bottom fans in your proposed scenario, two strong, top exhausts are going to be absolutely mandatory. If you haven't checked out part one of the AIO series, that's going to talk about the non-bottom fan scenarios.

  • @a_table
    @a_table 3 роки тому +5

    I think I'm going to go with something similar to what you recommended here with a 3080 FE when it's actually available. And the way that the 3080 FE cooler exhausts heat directly out of the case I think thermals will be great, and something like the and 5600x when that releases should probably not be that tough for a 240 aio

  • @marcin_karwinski
    @marcin_karwinski 3 роки тому

    So the best would be to use side/rad ones as intake, add 2x 120x15/slim 120mm as intake at the bottom and 2 of the same as exhaust at the top, and maybe using the 92mm as secondary exhaust on the rear if you need to... How's the dust situation with those side mounts? What's the best slim set suggested here - those Noctuas and Sickleflows are all 120x25mm, with bigger GPUs you'd rather need something slimmer in this case, wouldn't you? What's the right hub that could best manage/split/control all the top and bottom fans - isn't the NR200p included hub limited to 3 fans only?

  • @MrGreenwolfie
    @MrGreenwolfie 3 роки тому +1

    It's because of your info I just bought the NR200P. My god guys trying to go from atx to itx for the first time is hard it took me a while to find what i wanted/needed. I ended up on the NR200 because the case I wanted couldn't support the 3090. I'm currently on a 2080ti so finding something small yet big enough was already hard.
    how this smaller case holds more than the MetallicGear Neo Mini V2 despite that case being bigger i have no idea but im happy i stumbled upon the NR200

    • @MachinesMore
      @MachinesMore  3 роки тому

      Well that's great to hear! Yeah, if you play your cards right, I actually think you can get the 3090 working acceptably in this case. Having worked with the Neo mini V2 before- it's a poorly designed case from an airflow and space optimization perspective. It makes too many concessions for the sake of fitting an ATX PSU.

    • @MrGreenwolfie
      @MrGreenwolfie 3 роки тому

      @@MachinesMore On a quick note try using the be quiet! Dark Rock TF in a build, just make sure it will fit your motherboard first. You can check at be quiet's website. Best of luck pushing your builds to the next level!

  • @8bitsamurai6
    @8bitsamurai6 3 роки тому

    Agree nzxt my fav aio minus the fans. But its wasted in this build since you can't see the header. But the CM aio for 80 and slap to noctua def better option.

  • @Z020852
    @Z020852 3 роки тому

    What I'm planning to put in this case: 2x Arctic P120 in the bottom, reference width 3-slot thick GPU but the stock shroud and fans removed (basically using something like Raijintek Morpheus, ie large heatsink and 120mm fans), Arctic 240mm cooler with 2x P120 fans, and 2x Arctic P120s on top. They're around $35 for five or four fans last I checked.

    • @MachinesMore
      @MachinesMore  3 роки тому +1

      I know, those fans are almost a steal compared to the price of the NF-A12s. You can get a five pack and have some leftover to cool yourself. :)

    • @Z020852
      @Z020852 3 роки тому

      @@MachinesMore And they actually come in 140mm already so depending on your case that might be better.
      My guess is Noctua's taking longer with the 140mm version because just scaling it up tends to trade additional airflow at the same speed for static pressure. And if the 120mm is pushing that much air for that little noise, if they're aiming for a 140mm with all the benefits and none of the trade offs, it's gonna take a while.

  • @stx_aj2367
    @stx_aj2367 2 роки тому

    So bottom and rad intake and top exhaust for best temps

  • @oscervantes9819
    @oscervantes9819 3 роки тому

    Great work thanks for your experiment an extra configurations.
    Im a fan of mini itx case and i have the same motherboard x570 I from Aorus and appreciate if you add at the tests the temp of the m.2 ssd i have 45º - 50º in the Silverstone RVZ03 and i want to move to this case.
    In my case i have R5 3600 46º Ide and 68º Load with the spire cooler. I don't have much room for other large cooler I like the stetic of my case but in render the temps are little hot and noise.
    Your videos help me to decide AIO of air cooler when i change the case thank you so much.
    I appreciate the info of m.2 dude

  • @Dr.DizRespect
    @Dr.DizRespect 3 роки тому

    Great video ! Looking forward to buying the case! Can u fit 3.5 HDD in the PSU Shroud with side mounted radiators?!

    • @MachinesMore
      @MachinesMore  3 роки тому

      Cheers! Yes, with the X52/53 (25mm thick rad) and 25mm fans it will fit.

  • @drofla
    @drofla 3 роки тому

    hi, thx for the detailed video! will you be able to mount a 3.5" hdd on the psu shroud with AIO on the side?

    • @MachinesMore
      @MachinesMore  3 роки тому

      Yes- I should clarify, assuming you’re using something like a typical 25-27mm thick radiator with 25mm fans.

  • @cramballs
    @cramballs 3 роки тому

    Thanks a lot! follow your setup and thermals are great. Just have a question as I am using Kraken x53, unfortunately fans are not showing on nzxt cam. Any advice on this

    • @MachinesMore
      @MachinesMore  3 роки тому

      The X53 loses the fan controller on the X52! A step in the wrong direction unfortunately. You will have to use the mobo’s controller if that is where you are plugged in.

  • @Rossyboyy
    @Rossyboyy 3 роки тому

    If I have a slim profile AIO rad and fans for CPU cooling at the top and an AIO cooled 3080 with the rad on the side what configuration should I have the fans in, and should I place any additional at the rear or bottom?

    • @Rossyboyy
      @Rossyboyy 3 роки тому

      Thinking that since the AIO gpu's are usually thinner, I can fit some fans on the bottom to intake and then have the top rad fans for the cpu set to exhaust. Just not sure if it would be better to have the side AIO rad for the gpu set to intake or exhaust.

  • @hiro9185
    @hiro9185 3 роки тому

    Great video, fantastic contents about the NR200!
    Did you use fan hub or splitter to connect all 7 fans? X570 I AORUS only have 2 fan headers if I'm not mistaken, I'm curious using splitter for 7 fans would stress out those headers.
    Thanks a lot!

    • @MachinesMore
      @MachinesMore  3 роки тому +1

      You are correct- I used a splitter. I only split the chassis fan header to the case fans, from the included splitter cable plus another splitter. Rad fans were running off the X52 (it has an onboard fan controller).

  • @MJ-Kazim
    @MJ-Kazim 3 роки тому +1

    Great video! Subscribed and liked here.
    Do you recommend air or liquid cooling ? And what CPU coolers would you recommend as well as their ideal setup?
    Thanks In advance

    • @MachinesMore
      @MachinesMore  3 роки тому

      Your use case will dictate that choice. The reason I could see liquid cooling being preferred is if you want the most thermal headroom possible for overclocking something like a Ryzen 7 and above, or Intel i7/9 in the 10th gen, then liquid all the way. You can't get close to a 240+ AIO until you can run something like a Noctua D15 or D15s, which you can't in this case. But liquid cooling has a large set of complexities that it adds to your system, and I'll discuss more in an individual segment.

  • @Gunzprobish
    @Gunzprobish 3 роки тому

    So the fans on the bottom acting as intake, pulling air into the case blowing onto the graphics card, would they not mess with the graphics card fans trying to blow out the bottom of the case? 3060 ti FE if that helps

    • @MachinesMore
      @MachinesMore  3 роки тому

      Your graphics card fans intake as well. The FE cooler exhausts out the top of the card and also the back. The bottom fans will work in tandem with it.

  • @andren422
    @andren422 3 роки тому

    Hey,
    First I wanted to thank you for making this video. It really helped me understand the airflow of the NR200 which I would say is a bit atypical.
    I also would like to ask you a question about fan rpms in the NR200.
    What fix fan intake and exhaust rpm would you recommend using for gaming and general every day usage? (Considering bottom and rad fans as intake and top as exhaust.)
    Once again thank you for this instructive video!

    • @MachinesMore
      @MachinesMore  3 роки тому +2

      Hey André Neves, I would recommend anywhere from 800-1200 should be a suitable level depending on your noise and case air temperature tolerance. Alternately you could just stick it on a "silent" type of fan curve, so that you can have the fans only ramp up when load is present. They don't need to spin very fast for effective cooling, unlike with radiator fans. For radiator fans, it really depends on the model and chip you're cooling, if you're working with a low TDP chip like a Ryzen 5 or non-K Intel, quiet fans like the NF-A12x25, you could lock fans at 1200 and never hear them, while staying as cool as you'll ever need. For stock AIO fans you could consider working with a similar quieter fan curve since these do tend to be louder for same airflow, you might only ramp up when needed.

    • @andren422
      @andren422 3 роки тому

      @@MachinesMore Thank you very much for the tips!

  • @loudiamond
    @loudiamond Рік тому

    what does “Delta Over Ambient” mean

  • @rovicmiguelcafirma8377
    @rovicmiguelcafirma8377 3 роки тому

    Hi! I hope you can answer this. So the best fan configuration is that the rads are intake and the bottom is intake also?

    • @MachinesMore
      @MachinesMore  3 роки тому

      Yeah, bottom has to be intake because of the GPU. Running it the opposite way of the gpu fans is really, really bad for the graphics card, I accidentally flipped a fan once and was surprised how drastic it was.

  • @d23durian52
    @d23durian52 2 роки тому

    So push-pull doesn't work. What about using that space to mount a thicker 280mm radiator like the Alphacool xt45 or ut60? Please do this for science!! 🙏

  • @BARBELLS-AND-BUDS
    @BARBELLS-AND-BUDS 3 роки тому

    Is there any benefit to 280mm rad over 240 for the side, or was there a space limitation?
    I just figure bigger fans more flow and bigger rad more water and surface area. And price difference is negligible
    Also are we limited to 120mm fans for top and bottom case or will 140s fit?
    Thanks for the great videos!

    • @MachinesMore
      @MachinesMore  3 роки тому +1

      120mm fans are the limit for top and bottom, even though there is space at the bottom for 140s, there is interference with the case clips. a 280 in theory is better, but at the moment I prefer 240mm for the NR200 since the fit is more reasonable, and also I would much prefer a 240 AIO with Noctua NF-A12x25s over any 280rad/140mm fan combo. On a noise normalized basis you can beat a stock 280 handily with the Noctuas.

  • @cro411
    @cro411 3 роки тому

    hi thank you for the video! i've been using it as reference for when I build my first pc. I have a 5600x and rtx 3070 and im a bit confused about the direction of flow for the fans. Is it best to run the radiator fans as intake, and the top fans as exhaust fans while the bottom fans are intake? or do I make both top and bottom fans as exhausts? I know earlier in the video you mentioned how you would refer to the case fans as exhaust so I'm a little confused. Thanks!

    • @MachinesMore
      @MachinesMore  3 роки тому +2

      Bottom intake, top exhaust. Rad fans as an intake. That’s the best and most user friendly option.

    • @cro411
      @cro411 3 роки тому

      @@MachinesMore thank you so much!

  • @CknSalad
    @CknSalad 3 роки тому +1

    Machines & NR200 & More

  • @sinetwo
    @sinetwo 3 роки тому +2

    Great video, did you ever want to test this with an arctic freezer ii?

    • @swizzler8053
      @swizzler8053 3 роки тому

      The cables on the Arctic AIOS ain't that flexible.

  • @drofla
    @drofla 3 роки тому

    i'm going to follow ur suggestion of having 6 fans (2x top, 2x bottom, 2x aio). however, i'm having an issue with insufficient fan headers as my MB only has 3 (1 cpu fan header is taken by aio pump). how would you suggest wiring the remaining 6 fans on only 2 fan headers?

    • @MachinesMore
      @MachinesMore  3 роки тому +1

      Header 1: 2X Rad fans on one two way splitter.
      Headers 2: 4X case fans on a 4 way splitter ( or any combo of splitters to get you to 4 fans)
      You will want rad fans on a curve independent from case fans.

    • @drofla
      @drofla 3 роки тому

      @@MachinesMore thanks for e suggestion! shall check if my mb can handle a 4 splitter

  • @byte1988
    @byte1988 3 роки тому +2

    Love the content, amazing deep dive. Do you think arctic p12 noise/performance ratio is comparable to noctua? Optimum tech did a deep dive on the arctic vs noctua and they said that it is comparable. Also any recommendations on psu with best cabling for the case?

    • @CknSalad
      @CknSalad 3 роки тому +1

      I read a lot of reviews complaining about specific rpm ranges on the arctic fans. I personally would get the scythe kaze flex fans for exhaust.

    • @MachinesMore
      @MachinesMore  3 роки тому +2

      Yeah, there is a difference, obviously, you can't have it all for $10-$13, noise performance is one concern. But for a wallet friendly setup they really hit the sweet spot. As for a PSU, I can recommend the EVGA GM series, and I also use the SF series from Corsair. Whatever you do, make sure it is fully modular (most are) so that you can install all the cables on the mobo first, then route back to the PSU once it's installed, your life will be much easier.

    • @byte1988
      @byte1988 3 роки тому

      @@MachinesMore Thank you!

  • @BelliSenior
    @BelliSenior 3 роки тому

    Love your vids on this case and idk if i will get a reply for this but i am planning on doing a build in this case using asus tuf 3080, but the main issue I'm afraid of is that I'm getting a corsair h80i cooler for the cpu and was wondering if it will fit in there in a push pull config or just one fan pullin in air. again would really love a reply for this and maybe even a test for push pull rad configs in this case down line.

    • @MachinesMore
      @MachinesMore  3 роки тому

      I tested the push/pull in Part II with an NZXT unit (25mm thick) and it fit, but airflow was limited. That's 75mm right there. I think you'll fit that unit with one fan no problem, but two won't work with the case stock. For two fans.... two things I'd propose.
      1) Move PSU shroud to front position, then mount the rad in the center-ish position, since the PSU isn't there any more to obstruct. My guess is that'd be enough slack for the tubes to stretch their legs.
      2) If PSU shroud is still on the "normal" side, the other thing you might want to try is mounting the rad on the panel, squarely over the mobo. The tubing might be too stiff to bend so tight, but also worth a shot.

  • @cagencagen473
    @cagencagen473 3 роки тому +2

    Will you look at top down cooler like the C14S? I can imagine it being good for cpu and gpu if you have it intake or exhaust out the side, that way the gpu can exhaust out the side and top without affecting the cpu

    • @MachinesMore
      @MachinesMore  3 роки тому +4

      I am! That is next in this series.

    • @cagencagen473
      @cagencagen473 3 роки тому

      @@MachinesMore awesome! Appreciate your in depth content.

  • @BelliSenior
    @BelliSenior 3 роки тому +1

    Was curious if i could fit a 3080 founders edition with two intake fans in the bottom (thinking of the slim noctua fans) because im curious how the new coolers will affect thermals in the case

    • @MachinesMore
      @MachinesMore  3 роки тому

      Yeah, given the specs I’ve seen so far it should work with two 25mm fans on the bottom. The big takeaway with the FE cooler design is more so that it dumps heat upwards (into your mobo area) and out the rear (which is good), vs more conventional coolers that dump heat to the front of the case or the two sides. Will make air cooling trickier.

    • @BelliSenior
      @BelliSenior 3 роки тому

      Machines & More was thinking of using a aio setup for the cpu so i think thermals should be fine

  • @skynabbo306
    @skynabbo306 3 роки тому

    Thxxxx

  • @god-lightbulb
    @god-lightbulb 3 роки тому

    @3:30 what do you mean by "barbs"? I'm new to AIO's, so I'm not sure what that means.

    • @MachinesMore
      @MachinesMore  3 роки тому

      Sorry, a little custom loop terminology slipped in there accidentally. I’m referring to the protruding connectors from the radiator that allow the tubing to connect. It’s a potential leak point if the seal is compromised.

  • @ktkrap
    @ktkrap 3 роки тому

    GPU de-shrouding could be an option for bottom fan clearance. However it seems to be card design specific. I believe fans runs as exhaust were good but testing would verify. Still perhaps an idea for Part 3!

    • @MachinesMore
      @MachinesMore  3 роки тому

      That's entirely an option especially for the Strix Navi cards. Are you saying to exhaust out the bottom? At first thought bottom to top is still logical, considering 120 fans on the bottom of a shroudless GPU still do in essence what your stock GPU fans do, just more quietly and efficiently.

  • @arthur861020
    @arthur861020 3 роки тому

    I am just curious about now with the 3080 spec out, is that compatible with the bottom fan?

    • @MachinesMore
      @MachinesMore  3 роки тому

      NVidia’s site says “2-slot” for thickness. If it’s a true 2 slot thickness then yes, I think it would be fine with 25mm fans.

  • @god-lightbulb
    @god-lightbulb 3 роки тому +2

    Looking ahead to using a Nvidia 3080 which has a fan configuration that draws air upwards towards the top of the case, I wonder if using bottom case fans might somehow interfere with the upward airflow into the 3080 GPU? I imagine that, to achieve ideal airflow, the speed of air from the bottom fans would have to be the same speed created by the GPU fans. I wonder if it could create turbulence if there was a difference in the airflow speed created by the bottom fans compared to the GPU fans? I believe that the fan configuration of the Foundations Edition of the 3080 is very different from the fan configurations of 3rd party manufacturers. In the Founders Edition 3080, both fans suck the air upwards and expelled upwards. Whereas, in third party GPU fan configurations, the air is sucked downwards and expelled sideways. Hence, I'm wondering whether that difference requires a re-think on NR200 bottom fan configuration? (Having said all that, this could be an academic question since, from checking manufacturer websites, all the GPUs offered are of the conventional design. None of them offer the new Nvidia founder's design, and it's not clear if the founders edition will be widely available in my country).

    • @MachinesMore
      @MachinesMore  3 роки тому

      It may be a concern and it might not be... what I would guess is that at worst it only helps marginally, instead of making things worse. You’re right in the sense that if somehow the fans on the gpu can draw more air than 2 120mm case fans, then you might choke off the GPU, that’s something that remains to be seen- although from what I can see so far in the design I’m not terribly concerned about that being an issue.

  • @superstaples
    @superstaples 11 місяців тому

    So TLDR; put 2 noctua fans on side intake rad and 2 120mm fans on top as exhaust as well as the 92mm as an exhaust.

  • @wahoo84
    @wahoo84 3 роки тому +1

    Can't wait for your NR200 'P' reviews! I'm planning a build and considering coupling a 240mm AIO + RTX 3070
    However, not sure if mounting a 240 AIO on the bottom is a bad idea as the pump would be working against gravity + I read the TG panel + vertical GPU orientation is a no no...
    Do you think it might be OK for cooling purposes if I had 2 exhaust up top, 92mm exhaust out back, vertical GPU and AIO at the bottom?
    Alternatively, I would get a NH-U9S and install the GPU on the bottom with 2x 15mm case fans and every other fan exhausting air out of the case

    • @spektrumB
      @spektrumB 3 роки тому +1

      When you mount the GPU vertically, you can't mount the 92mm fan. Also, very few reviewers mention only the rear panel supports the GPU when mounted vertically. I have a Sapphire Nitro 5700XT. It sags so badly, just a no go. It really needs a support bracket, possibly connected to the PSU mount, to make sense for the design. Also my 5700XT runs 8C hotter when mounted vertically with glass side panel. Eventually I just build my rig with standard lay out, GPU at the bottom, with two 15mm slim fans underneath.

    • @makatron
      @makatron 3 роки тому

      The problem to mount the GPU vertically is that you gotta use a thinner version as it doesn't have the clearance against the side panel.

  • @dylandetaeye
    @dylandetaeye 2 роки тому

    Pls relpy on this. Is it an good idea to use an tiny watercooler and set it on the Back of the nr200p and set all fans on intake and exhaust to the radiator. The top fans are intake and the cool air is going to the radiator. Good idea? I will use an i7 11700k and rtx 3080 ti

    • @MachinesMore
      @MachinesMore  2 роки тому

      My preference would be to go with a tower cooler over a small liquid cooler (like a 92mm). There’s just more heat exchange area and fan capability with a 120 tower. I also don’t think a 92mm rad would be a good match for a 11700K, unless you are comfortable with very high fan speeds.

    • @dylandetaeye
      @dylandetaeye 2 роки тому

      @@MachinesMore so then is my question, what air cooler is good for the i7 11700k and that fits into the nr200 p. i will use the glass panel. thanks for helping me :)

  • @TweakTechNow
    @TweakTechNow 3 роки тому

    My NR200P has not arrived yet but I think I'll 3D print some taller feet and mount 120x25 fans underneath the case. That way I got room for the 2.9 slot 3090 Strix still. I think.

    • @MachinesMore
      @MachinesMore  3 роки тому

      You might just try without fans at the bottom- where they really help is when there is a gap and therefore channel in fresh air instead of the GPU recycling it’s own air. With a card that big it might just be able to be drawing in fresh air to begin with.

    • @TweakTechNow
      @TweakTechNow 3 роки тому

      @@MachinesMore yea I'll try that first.

  • @CosmicApe
    @CosmicApe 3 роки тому

    After watching your review of the Arctic AIO that only has a single fan cable for the entire AIO, I don't know how I could ever choose an AIO with all these cables haha

  • @michaelleppan9960
    @michaelleppan9960 3 роки тому

    What about placing a 120 or 92 mm aio cooler on the psu case with the NR200p?

    • @MachinesMore
      @MachinesMore  3 роки тому

      On top of it? Or attached to it?

    • @michaelleppan9960
      @michaelleppan9960 3 роки тому

      @@MachinesMore Literally attached to the psu holder.

  • @Turburki
    @Turburki 3 роки тому

    But with the orientation of this radiator setup can cause bubble stuck at the pump....I think I will go with air cooler instead since we can’t mount the radiator on top

    • @MachinesMore
      @MachinesMore  3 роки тому

      As a side intake, it's going to be passable. Certainly a top mounted rad is best but side mounted isn't the worst scenario, and if you keep your tubes higher than the pump block, you'll create an airgap there also (kind of like with a dishwasher if you've ever seen the plumbing from one).

  • @shkohk
    @shkohk 2 роки тому

    Really want to know how bad could it be mounting the aio in the bottom......

    • @MachinesMore
      @MachinesMore  2 роки тому

      The durability issue will take years to play out, plus, the better units have a 6 year warranty so it’s not a big consideration. I’d say the more immediate issue is the gurgle/air noise in the pump, this is highly dependent on the full level of the unit and how much permeation has already happened. Not a great config to bottom mount but you might find it’s not the end of the world, and that’s fine too.