Thank you so much for this video. I went out to my 2007 6.0 (-5 degrees today) and I could hear the injectors pre cycle, no codes, FICM 48V but no crank or clicking. Reseated the starter relay and the 15A fuse and it started right up! You just saved me from having to sit in snow and swap a starter I didn't need.
@@kira55400 dude I have the same. FICM is going out (long crank before cold start). I noticed the crank or click doesn't work when it's hot and I had just had the truck on and running (sometimes).
This video is right on thank you alot for explaining it and making it real easy to troubleshoot it was stranded in a parking and now back on the road 400 miles away from home thank you again
Dude awesome video the starter fuse in my book is listed as 4 x 4 I don't have 4 wheel so there was no reason to even fool with that fuse and would have been the last last thing I even thought about checking. I fiddled with this for a long day.. your vid and 15 seconds later I was rolling. Kudos dude
Excellent video and excellent advice however I may add that you should check your terminals at the starter itself. There are only two one coming from the battery and one coming from the relay. Also under the hood of the truck there is an interconnect where the wire leading from the starter relay connects to the yellow wire leading down to the starter. The interconnect is on the passenger side and resembles the look of a black plastic round cylinder. In a no start condition pull that apart and check the connections inside.
also, you can pull that apart and connect a piece of wire from it to the battery and if the starter is bad it will not turn over, if the starter is good, it will turn over. So in an emergency situation, you can turn the key on, and start the vehicle from that wire.
Nice video. The neutral lockout can be accessed and tested with the same techniques. Short around (use a jumper wire to connect their inputs and outputs like you showed to do with the relay where it plugs in) all switches and relays to check them one at a time. A test light (or, "THE DREADED" @$#!@%!METER!!!! AAAAAHHH!!) will tell you if you are getting power in at every device, and every device that has good power has good wiring and devices between it and the power source.
This video was super helpful. Thank you for posting it. It helped me determine that I had a sticking relay. Thanks brother - wishing you a belated Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!!!
Gonna go take a look at this later i assumed my started went put and did a 6.4 upgrade and i still have to jump it off the solenoid plug in the engine bay thank you for the advice
Gm Sir I tested my batteries with a multimeter and the numbers went up and went back down to zero!! Lol Idk now I'm going to try and bypass the relay and see if it fires up!!
Currently running with an issue with the relay clicking and closing the circuit. Batteries checked out fine, jumped the starter with the jumper cable. I'm only reading 8 volts on my jumper cable. I jumped the truck from the starter relay and read 12+ volts. Which then I came to a conclusion that somewhere in a fuse box something is not right. In other words I have a problem upstream. So what I ended up doing is bypassing the relay to the fuse box and just installed a relay socket with a mini relay 30 amp. I did purchase a "used fuse box" that is currently on the way, but I will be sending it back as the " Relay Mod" solved my problem. I have posted a short video of my symptoms, along with the form with the help of Hydro, master1973, Bismic, 79Jasper and others input. Hope this will help someone and some future advice for Lehew Tech.
@@mac6759 here's the video with the problem I was having along with the thread with others input. In the description. ua-cam.com/users/shortsA9UHNSj4hFc?feature=share It turns out my wires were fried at the bell housing from the ravelco connected to the jumper cable. Feel free to ask any question, I know this problem can be very frustrating.
This is the best video I've watched. One question on the key Tumblr there is a little clip with i think like a purple wire plugs into the Tumblr what does that go to or control.
Great informational video buddy. This is exactly the information I have been looking for. When my engine is cold and I turn the key sometimes I get NOTHING. Dead silence. Then after turning key on key off, key on several times it will eventually crank and start. After the engine warms up is will crank and start every attempt. I have brand new motor craft 850 amp batteries. Is there anything you can think of besides the things you mention in the video which may help me diagnose since this seems to only happen when engine is cold? Thank you.
Excellent video.. 👍. I hav power from the top wire, when I bridge it, truck start, The yellow left side “ground” it gave me ground. But the yellow spot at the right there is no power., What next? Ty
Thank you for the video! I've been wanting to install an intermittent push button type kill switch where holding the button down would make a closed connection to the control to the starter relay. That 15A fuse to the ignition switch may be the answer. If the truck starts and is running and then you pull that 15A fuse, would the engine stall or will it have no affect? If it only needs the closed circuit when you're about to start it, then that intermittent switch should work. Thanks in advance for your help.
Good video very good info you commented on a bad neutral safety switch if there's no ground on the starter relay pin where is that neutral safety switch located at
So what if it doesn’t crank by bypassing the relay? I tried that on my and it won’t crank. So I tried the wire/plugin under the hood (passenger side) and touched to hot post and still no crank.
I recently ran into issues with my 2004 f250 xlt. We had to put a new fuse box in after we were having all types of battery drain issues, things dinging, cluster wouldn't go to sleep etc. The new one when 1st installed would start off the key. Went for a drive and after that wouldn't start off the key but with ignition switch on, I can jump the starter relay and I'll fire right up and run.what should I be checking next? I tested all my fuses the one you pointed out in my 04 even with the truck running I have no power for mine it was labeled as radio start. Fuel pump and everything else runs functions as it should, only have the issue with the initial start. I get clicks that comes from the delay accessory relay and that's it, running into you video I tired switching relays etc no change but jumping the old girl boom like nothing ever was wrong.
@@jorgebarbosa4247I actually found a separate issues but all works together when right. The truck wasn't always seeing itself "in park" after the cluster and new post recall fuse box in stall every once in awhile it would act stupid. So I dug into it. The shifter tube has 2 bolts and a indent bracket on the back, if it's not catching that properly it can be a issue. Sometimes it was fine sometimes it wasn't. So I got some new bolts and lock tite, bolted that down and went the extra step of putting a shifter cable on it. Haven't had any issues since.
I have a 6.0 with a new start really slow crank like 30 rpm’s and batteries are good brand new I have 4 brand new ones and on my other 6.0 will crank faster with just one battery The one with the slow crank also has no ficm sync and no cam and crank sync but I’m guessing this is because of the really slow rpm/ Crank
I'm working on a f550 Ford bus 2016. I put a new starter in. The relay is clicking and still won't start. Dash lights come on I was trying to put it in neutral to see if it starts. Any suggestion?
Did everything you said and still replaced the starter. Relay clicks but no crank on start. Checked the start and it has power but still no ingagement of starter. Any ideas??
So I have cranking but still no start check batteries and still nothing, I replaced a fuse for fog lights and once I didn’t that the truck didn’t want to start
So if I pull that ignition switch fuse you can’t start the truck at all? I’m wondering because I don’t want my truck getting stolen but can’t afford a anti theft system rn just put a fresh Asheville Engine in it so really want to avoid it getting stolen
I have an 03 f250, I’m having an issue where the truck starts up when I turn the ignition switch to first position. After the truck starts I immediately have to take out the starter relay on the fuse panel if not the starter will grind as if I’m turning the key to start it while the truck is on. Any idea what this issue might be? Has a new starter, changed the ignition switch, changed starter relay, ignition fuse is good, starter fuse is good
So. My truck receives power. Everything lights up. Starter engages..But only on a Cold start it won’t fire up on the first attempt at starting. Once the truck is warm. It’ll fire right up... would any of these possibly be my issue? Truck has two 1 month old batteries as well
Hello, I have a question, my trailer does not give me right and left or brake lights, I would like to know where the fuse goes to be able to see if that is the problem, thank you
I have a question abut the fuses particularly #39 on The 05-07 . Can anyone put a test light to theirs and see if it's supposed to be live or ignition controlled. Thank you
Can anyone help me? My 06 550 super duty tail light running lights are not working I have checked fuses I have checked fuse 20,10,&25 and still no running lights when connected to my trailer no running lights all signals brake lights work, but not running light?? I am definitely stumped on this again all fuses work
so, i know this old and you're not likely to respond but i would really appreciate the advice if you did so why not... this morning i go to crank and nothing, dead silence. the starter motor fuse 113 is blown. keeps blowing them. i have a push start under the dash that works off of a headlight 30a fuse. blows them too when i try it that way. i unhooked the black connector near the blower motor and touch it to the positive battery terminal and i get a crank. does this sound like the starter needs replacing? or am i looking at something else. also i checked the relay pins like you show in this video and my ground and ignition pins seem to be reversed. my ground is on the right and my ignition power pin is on the left. is something wired wrong there? or is this normal/interchangeable?
Hey I have a question, my starterbon a 2004 excursion stays engaged. I changed it out for a new one and does the same thing. On my trouble shooting I noticed that I get a negative 12 volts on the switch side of the starter. Any help trying to located the wires on experience with this issue
DrIving down highway at 85 to 90 mph truck shut off rolled to side of road. When I tried to turn on it gave me all these lights on dash. abs , tbc fault check engine, wrench, and battery light. Truck has power to radio and gauges and ac but wont crank at all! can anyone help??????? had to tow truck home. No crank what so ever??????!!!
I try to start the truck and only hear a click by the starter. I also try to start the truck with the Key on position by the starter jump wire on passenger fender but same thing.. Took Starter to O'Reilly and it spins so I put back the the truck but didn't bolt it in except for the solenoid wires and it spins.... Just won't turn the engine when all bolted up... Can the Starter still be weak so it won't turn the engine over?
@@LehewTech I took to another Oriellys and guy said the starter was seized.. lol. Had a lifetime warranty so got a new one. I guess whenever the other guy checked it out the starter decided to work.. Costed me a tow. HA!
Hello there is there anybody who can help me out my truck just stalled . All I know is that my trucks battery terminals where extremely hot when I checked them and there is no power in my truck any where.
I have 06 f350 powerstroke turn key to start acts like starter is locked up but go to passenger side unplug wire by the blower motor touch it to battery positive side and it starts any ideal thanks
I have a 250 5.4 l cranks over but won't start doesn't get any spark the scanner said it was the fuel pump driver module but it doesn't have one wondering what the problem could be?
I have an 06 f250 that has an intermittent no crank. But if I hold the key for about 15 seconds it'll turn over. New relay,ignition switch, fuses are good. I'm lost
Thank you so much for this video. I went out to my 2007 6.0 (-5 degrees today) and I could hear the injectors pre cycle, no codes, FICM 48V but no crank or clicking. Reseated the starter relay and the 15A fuse and it started right up! You just saved me from having to sit in snow and swap a starter I didn't need.
@@kira55400 dude I have the same. FICM is going out (long crank before cold start). I noticed the crank or click doesn't work when it's hot and I had just had the truck on and running (sometimes).
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This video is right on thank you alot for explaining it and making it real easy to troubleshoot it was stranded in a parking and now back on the road 400 miles away from home thank you again
Thank you very much, I had 2 new batteries and it wouldn't Crank. I swapped out the2 top gray boxes and it started up. Thank you so much
Great video. Wish there were all straight to the point like this
Dude awesome video the starter fuse in my book is listed as 4 x 4 I don't have 4 wheel so there was no reason to even fool with that fuse and would have been the last last thing I even thought about checking. I fiddled with this for a long day.. your vid and 15 seconds later I was rolling. Kudos dude
I know this is an old video but I want to thank you soo very much. -5 outside and swapped relays like you said popped off. Thanks again.
Nice job, ive been looking for 3 days for that exact info on here and on forums and you have explained it in a way that makes perfect sense, tbank you
Same here. I cannot say enough about how good this video was.
Great video. This is exactly what I needed to troubleshoot my no crank condition
This video is a big help; thank you very much!
Thank you so much
Saved me the trouble of changing my starter
I think that you did a great job with aa succinct explanation. Thank you Sir!
Excellent video and excellent advice however I may add that you should check your terminals at the starter itself. There are only two one coming from the battery and one coming from the relay. Also under the hood of the truck there is an interconnect where the wire leading from the starter relay connects to the yellow wire leading down to the starter. The interconnect is on the passenger side and resembles the look of a black plastic round cylinder. In a no start condition pull that apart and check the connections inside.
also, you can pull that apart and connect a piece of wire from it to the battery and if the starter is bad it will not turn over, if the starter is good, it will turn over. So in an emergency situation, you can turn the key on, and start the vehicle from that wire.
Nice ! Precise and to the point!
Thank you man that relay was my problem
Nice video. The neutral lockout can be accessed and tested with the same techniques. Short around (use a jumper wire to connect their inputs and outputs like you showed to do with the relay where it plugs in) all switches and relays to check them one at a time. A test light (or, "THE DREADED" @$#!@%!METER!!!! AAAAAHHH!!) will tell you if you are getting power in at every device, and every device that has good power has good wiring and devices between it and the power source.
Epic video
This video was super helpful. Thank you for posting it. It helped me determine that I had a sticking relay. Thanks brother - wishing you a belated Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!!!
Tremendous! Merry Christmas to you and yours!
Damm good. You have great videos. I will be working on my neighbors truck Saturday morning.
Absolutely a great video! Very well explained. Thanks
OUTSTANDING video.
Thank you. Subscribed.
Great Video!
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You saved my day!
THANKS BRO I FOUND THE PROBLEM
Gonna go take a look at this later i assumed my started went put and did a 6.4 upgrade and i still have to jump it off the solenoid plug in the engine bay thank you for the advice
Gm Sir I tested my batteries with a multimeter and the numbers went up and went back down to zero!! Lol Idk now I'm going to try and bypass the relay and see if it fires up!!
Thank you so much, for sharing
Currently running with an issue with the relay clicking and closing the circuit. Batteries checked out fine, jumped the starter with the jumper cable. I'm only reading 8 volts on my jumper cable. I jumped the truck from the starter relay and read 12+ volts. Which then I came to a conclusion that somewhere in a fuse box something is not right. In other words I have a problem upstream. So what I ended up doing is bypassing the relay to the fuse box and just installed a relay socket with a mini relay 30 amp. I did purchase a "used fuse box" that is currently on the way, but I will be sending it back as the " Relay Mod" solved my problem. I have posted a short video of my symptoms, along with the form with the help of Hydro, master1973, Bismic, 79Jasper and others input. Hope this will help someone and some future advice for Lehew Tech.
Where can I see this video Eric? Currently having the same problem.
@@mac6759 here's the video with the problem I was having along with the thread with others input. In the description.
ua-cam.com/users/shortsA9UHNSj4hFc?feature=share
It turns out my wires were fried at the bell housing from the ravelco connected to the jumper cable. Feel free to ask any question, I know this problem can be very frustrating.
Thanks your info works great
2005 f250 6.0L. No crank only when single digits or less cold . Otherwise zero issues. Does cold affect the results , electronics
This is the best video I've watched. One question on the key Tumblr there is a little clip with i think like a purple wire plugs into the Tumblr what does that go to or control.
Great informational video buddy. This is exactly the information I have been looking for. When my engine is cold and I turn the key sometimes I get NOTHING. Dead silence. Then after turning key on key off, key on several times it will eventually crank and start. After the engine warms up is will crank and start every attempt. I have brand new motor craft 850 amp batteries. Is there anything you can think of besides the things you mention in the video which may help me diagnose since this seems to only happen when engine is cold? Thank you.
Excelente perfecto gracias
Excellent video.. 👍.
I hav power from the top wire, when I bridge it, truck start, The yellow left side “ground” it gave me ground.
But the yellow spot at the right there is no power.,
What next? Ty
Awesome video and all brotha but I don’t have power to the first fuse!!?? What is before that and what could the issue be?
If it does turn over by crossing the relay then what could it be
Thank You!
Thank you for the video! I've been wanting to install an intermittent push button type kill switch where holding the button down would make a closed connection to the control to the starter relay. That 15A fuse to the ignition switch may be the answer.
If the truck starts and is running and then you pull that 15A fuse, would the engine stall or will it have no affect?
If it only needs the closed circuit when you're about to start it, then that intermittent switch should work. Thanks in advance for your help.
Good video very good info you commented on a bad neutral safety switch if there's no ground on the starter relay pin where is that neutral safety switch located at
Good question. It is located on the (driver?) side of the transmission where the linkage attaches.
Where’s the manual transmission switch? Wonderful video!!!
The key will not turn it over but if I cross the starter relay it will turn over. What do you think
So what if it doesn’t crank by bypassing the relay? I tried that on my and it won’t crank. So I tried the wire/plugin under the hood (passenger side) and touched to hot post and still no crank.
I recently ran into issues with my 2004 f250 xlt. We had to put a new fuse box in after we were having all types of battery drain issues, things dinging, cluster wouldn't go to sleep etc. The new one when 1st installed would start off the key. Went for a drive and after that wouldn't start off the key but with ignition switch on, I can jump the starter relay and I'll fire right up and run.what should I be checking next? I tested all my fuses the one you pointed out in my 04 even with the truck running I have no power for mine it was labeled as radio start. Fuel pump and everything else runs functions as it should, only have the issue with the initial start. I get clicks that comes from the delay accessory relay and that's it, running into you video I tired switching relays etc no change but jumping the old girl boom like nothing ever was wrong.
@@mattprincler what did you do to make it work Bro
@@jorgebarbosa4247I actually found a separate issues but all works together when right. The truck wasn't always seeing itself "in park" after the cluster and new post recall fuse box in stall every once in awhile it would act stupid. So I dug into it. The shifter tube has 2 bolts and a indent bracket on the back, if it's not catching that properly it can be a issue. Sometimes it was fine sometimes it wasn't. So I got some new bolts and lock tite, bolted that down and went the extra step of putting a shifter cable on it. Haven't had any issues since.
thankyou sr
I have a 6.0 with a new start really slow crank like 30 rpm’s and batteries are good brand new I have 4 brand new ones and on my other 6.0 will crank faster with just one battery The one with the slow crank also has no ficm sync and no cam and crank sync but I’m guessing this is because of the really slow rpm/ Crank
I'm working on a f550 Ford bus 2016. I put a new starter in. The relay is clicking and still won't start. Dash lights come on I was trying to put it in neutral to see if it starts. Any suggestion?
Did everything you said and still replaced the starter. Relay clicks but no crank on start. Checked the start and it has power but still no ingagement of starter. Any ideas??
So I have cranking but still no start check batteries and still nothing, I replaced a fuse for fog lights and once I didn’t that the truck didn’t want to start
Thanks
I checked all the fuses and relay.. and still have the same problem…I even changed the starter and still no crank
I would like to know what to check out next
Is there a way to jump out the newutral safety switch? So your truck would pretty much start in gear?
So if I pull that ignition switch fuse you can’t start the truck at all? I’m wondering because I don’t want my truck getting stolen but can’t afford a anti theft system rn just put a fresh Asheville Engine in it so really want to avoid it getting stolen
Hi! I have 11 f250 xlt driving truck and it died have power going to starter no power in truck when key is on . Why thanks Steve
I have an 03 f250, I’m having an issue where the truck starts up when I turn the ignition switch to first position. After the truck starts I immediately have to take out the starter relay on the fuse panel if not the starter will grind as if I’m turning the key to start it while the truck is on. Any idea what this issue might be?
Has a new starter, changed the ignition switch, changed starter relay, ignition fuse is good, starter fuse is good
So. My truck receives power. Everything lights up. Starter engages..But only on a Cold start it won’t fire up on the first attempt at starting. Once the truck is warm. It’ll fire right up... would any of these possibly be my issue? Truck has two 1 month old batteries as well
Hello, I have a question, my trailer does not give me right and left or brake lights, I would like to know where the fuse goes to be able to see if that is the problem, thank you
my 2005 f350 i turn the key on and the glow plugs go on then shuts off then the started in gages without turning the key why ?
How can you put a kill switch on from the relay so it won't start. Not sure what wires ?
I have a question abut the fuses particularly #39 on The 05-07 . Can anyone put a test light to theirs and see if it's supposed to be live or ignition controlled.
Thank you
If you can get starter to turn over with jump wire in starter relay spot where do you go from there
Figure out if your ignition switch is bad or if your transmission range switch is bad
It could be a few other things but those are good starting points
What would cause burning up statters every 5-6 months? the truck is a 2004 f350
Starter!!
Can anyone help me? My 06 550 super duty tail light running lights are not working I have checked fuses I have checked fuse 20,10,&25 and still no running lights when connected to my trailer no running lights all signals brake lights work, but not running light?? I am definitely stumped on this again all fuses work
dude I'm trying to use a fuse tap for a plow set up but can't find any ACC. is it me or where are they?
so, i know this old and you're not likely to respond but i would really appreciate the advice if you did so why not... this morning i go to crank and nothing, dead silence. the starter motor fuse 113 is blown. keeps blowing them. i have a push start under the dash that works off of a headlight 30a fuse. blows them too when i try it that way. i unhooked the black connector near the blower motor and touch it to the positive battery terminal and i get a crank. does this sound like the starter needs replacing? or am i looking at something else. also i checked the relay pins like you show in this video and my ground and ignition pins seem to be reversed. my ground is on the right and my ignition power pin is on the left. is something wired wrong there? or is this normal/interchangeable?
What if all i get is a spark from trying to bypass the relay
Hey I have a question, my starterbon a 2004 excursion stays engaged. I changed it out for a new one and does the same thing. On my trouble shooting I noticed that I get a negative 12 volts on the switch side of the starter. Any help trying to located the wires on experience with this issue
What is the harness to the right of the fuse box that’s plugged into a relay?
Did you ever get a response on that question. I've been wandering the same thing.
I have a technical question regarding the clutch pedal switch on my f350 is there a way i can message you thanks
Can you help me i replaced the starter in f350 diesel and now when try to start i lose all power
Did you fix it. Mine is also doing same thing.
DrIving down highway at 85 to 90 mph truck shut off rolled to side of road. When I tried to turn on it gave me all these lights on dash. abs , tbc fault check engine, wrench, and battery light. Truck has power to radio and gauges and ac but wont crank at all! can anyone help??????? had to tow truck home. No crank what so ever??????!!!
What number is the ignition fuse?
I try to start the truck and only hear a click by the starter. I also try to start the truck with the Key on position by the starter jump wire on passenger fender but same thing.. Took Starter to O'Reilly and it spins so I put back the the truck but didn't bolt it in except for the solenoid wires and it spins.... Just won't turn the engine when all bolted up... Can the Starter still be weak so it won't turn the engine over?
Yes. Your engine could also be seized or your battery could be weak or failing.
@@LehewTech I took to another Oriellys and guy said the starter was seized.. lol. Had a lifetime warranty so got a new one. I guess whenever the other guy checked it out the starter decided to work.. Costed me a tow. HA!
so if fuse all looks good and new relay yet still dnt crank but when i jump relay with a clip like you said it cranks over
So is yours cranking over if u bypass the relay with wire?
Hello there is there anybody who can help me out my truck just stalled . All I know is that my trucks battery terminals where extremely hot when I checked them and there is no power in my truck any where.
I have 06 f350 powerstroke turn key to start acts like starter is locked up but go to passenger side unplug wire by the blower motor touch it to battery positive side and it starts any ideal thanks
did this wind up being the starter for yours? mine keeps blowing the 30a starter motor fuse but i can start it by touching this wire to the positive
I have a 250 5.4 l cranks over but won't start doesn't get any spark the scanner said it was the fuel pump driver module but it doesn't have one wondering what the problem could be?
What is the code?
And what year is your 250?
I have an 06 f250 that has an intermittent no crank. But if I hold the key for about 15 seconds it'll turn over. New relay,ignition switch, fuses are good. I'm lost
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