I’m Selling My Toyota GR Corolla / Series Announcement!
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- Опубліковано 21 лип 2024
- I have had a good time with my long term GR Corolla, but it's time to move on. To do so, I'm proposing a series where I drive the best enthusiast cars for $50k and below before I make a decision!
00:00 Background
00:38 GR Corolla 15k mile review
07:58 Series Premise & Plan
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"It punishes you like the medieval legal system." There it is. Can't be a Realistick review without one of those gems.
It wouldn’t be a Realstick review without a simile 😁
yup just had same thought from same reference.
Indiana!!! RIght on bro, I just found your channel recently and it's cool to see someone out here in this part of the country. I really like the whole idea of this series. Keep up the good work!
Good luck! Looking forward to the new series!
Thank you!
Go for it, Tyler. I'm glad I can play a small part in this adventure.
I've loved the content. Was a big help deciding on a 24' Premium for msrp, love it so far. Feels special.
Glad I could help & congrats!!
You are doing God‘s work with the premise for your new series. Us driving enthusiasts are already Noah’s-Arking at the moment, given the state of the -appliance- uhh, car industry.
Best of luck! I’m looking forward to it, sir.
To be fair, we have some really good sports cars now and coming up too.(new miata, toyota's SFR, honda prelude) we currently have a miata and BRZ/GR86 that outperform S2000s for less than half the msrp that an S2000 would have cost today. We still have WRXs and we have the new Supra and BMW Z4, GR Corolla, GR Yaris(not in the US though), Focus ST, Fiesta ST, Mustangs are way better cars now than 20 years ago, Civic Si and Type R/Integra, Golf R, new Nissan Z, M2, Elantra and Veloster N, and more.
Most have a manual in this incomplete list but in the last 5 years, we really have a decent selection of sporty cars compared to the selection in the 90s. The JDM classics are even out-performed by most of the cars on this list too and for less money than what the MSRP of the 90s cars would have costed today.
@@jrod1577
Yes, that’s exactly my point. We are seeing the current crop as potentially the very last of a kind.
my hope is that a contemporary ND/86 in our garages will be able to run strong for the next 20-30 years.
Really looking forward to this!
Sounds like a fun adventure! Looking forward to the series!
I appreciate that, and thank you for helping make the trip happen!
Excited for this series and adventure
Great progress!!
I don't know if it'd make sense but I've always wanted to see some sort of "performance per dollar" type metric that would compare unmodified cars by price. Would be interesting to see which one is somewhat objectively "best" for the money.
Id be interested in watching you own a type r. Hopefully that’s in your list of cars to own in the future!
It’ll be in the series. I can’t wait to see if it lives up to the hype!
I am so happy for you!
Thanks, I’m happy you guys make it possible ✌️
Sounds like an awesome journey! Honestly if it was available in the US, the Swift Sport would be a good Warm Hatch to do as this generation is looking to be the final generation available too
👍🏻👍🏻On my second GR Corolla (Core ~ 20,000km. (Coast to Coast!) (Circuit ~ 5,000km). Civic type R (FL5) ~ 8500km. Some extended drives of Golf R. Your conclusions pretty much exactly my experience too. My second generation GR Circuit is an improvement on the original and, for me a keeper😀 far from perfect but charming much of the time (except… “drowning” down the hi way), will get new tires and suspension at some point (maybe upgraded clutch) still, a practical and smile producing event that I always look forward to. In summary, the other examples of “hot hatches”….. “WILLING” 🥸 GR Corolla…. “EAGER” 😎 sums it up for me. Enjoy your content….thank you , keep it up. 🙏🏻
It would be nice to see the golf r and gti on this trip. They are said to be more comfortable on terrible roads
I agree with you in this video, cars like this need to be seen for what they are (performance and fun), and not compared to a more luxury car in terms of technology, passenger space and comfort.
I really enjoyed your travel-log series with the old mustang quite a while back….that was really well done. So im looking forward to this new one even if it’s planned to be a bit different than that. Good luck!
Thank you, I loved making that series, maybe I can make another one like it someday when the views/ROI aren’t as crucial to the success of the channel! That one honestly almost sent me back to a 9-5!
midwest roads are not compatible with low profile tires. Did you get any flat tires from bad roads in the past year?
None! The GRC uses 18s which have more sidewall than most competitors, I should have put that in this video🤓
Can you explain how adaptive cruise control works on a manual car? Do you still have to shift gears?
Yes, so if you have auto rev matching, you can actually upshift and down shift without touching the gas or brakes, only the clutch! I don’t use it much in traffic as it gets clunky but the system will stay active through gear changes. It pauses when you hit the brakes or gas, perhaps I will make a video on it, it’s interesting.
i bought a 24 gr corolla premium because i too think this is the end of an era. i want to drive a real 6 speed manual that makes real engine and exhaust noise. maybe i will think electric is cool when im an old man and want to relax a little more
I'm pretty danged old, and age has not abated my hatred of ev's. Love my GR Corolla, and will keep it. Might add a 2-seat sports car like a Corvette when feel like I'm too weak to handle the motorcycle. The GR is a beast especially when there is low traction. And it's practical enough for me as an only car.
I LOVE my '21 Outback XT, but wish it could be had with better steering and (dare I dream) adjustable suspension. (Manual Transmission? I know - don't even dream about that!)
I also chose the Outback as my tow vehicle for a 2,000 lb. boat)
I am always interested in the 'Hot Hatch' type car, but at 61 yrs old, I appreciate a car that is not two inches above the ground with 'rubber band' tire sidewalls', and I don't want a suspension stiff enough to make my (still original) teeth rattle out! My kids both drive, but we still carry a dog crate at times, and need to be able to carry 'stuff'.
So as eager as I am for your upcoming 'series', I'm hoping that you factor in some critique for more 'mature' enthusiasts such as myself.
One of these days (years) I WILL (hopefully) buy a car for 'Sunday Drives'!
Thanks for all the good content!
I will keep that perspective in mind, there are a couple of cars in the series that I think would fit what you’re looking for!
@@Realistick Thanks!, I wouldn't be looking to tow with a 'play' car, but the livability issues are something that would factor in.
Im surprised man!!
It’s about time to be reckless again!
Hi, where can i find the car listed for sell? i'm intrested in buying it.
I bought a new CX-50 because of this channel, but I bought it in Evansville instead of Bloomington, which is a bit of a betrayal.
I live in Indianapolis with a Focus RS and I literally feel these roads in my bones 😂
I’m sorry, but there is just no excuse to have that cheap of an interior for a car that costs that much. No excuse. You can’t just say “you’re paying for the performance” 4:26-4:28. A Golf R costs just as much, is AWD, is better in every performance category, and has a LOT nicer interior!! There’s simply no excuse! Just because it’s a “Toyota” of who is known to have sub-par interiors, does not mean it’s fine.
I wish I was in the financial place to ignore a $7k price difference😂 (The golf r is also only quicker in AT form btw). Be happy they each exist for a different set of desires, it won’t be that way for too long✌️
@@Realistickbut the 888 has so much more tuning overhead
up until the amount of work required to maintain it. I mean even a simple differential change requires temperature checks in which other cars don't. But yes, Golf R is peak, but not worth it long term.
Great video! The car is good but they really need to improve the styling..
I'm not sure how you put 10k on those factory tires. I switched mine out for a softer, nicer 245. I went to the PS4 A/S since I live in a wet state. I didn't notice any quality control issues besides two rattles. One in my dash pad above the cluster, and one in the pillar where the spring for the seatbelt adjuster is. Outside of that, all my panels are perfectly aligned. Without a few important mods, this car left me wanting. After tires, pitch stop mount, and shifter linkage bushings, I feel a lot better about my GRC. I wouldn't give it up for anything less rare. The G16E-GTS is a 2J with 3 cylinder cut off. I wouldn't sell it. It's too rare.
All right, let’s go party!
Currently the best car is the GR86 with performance package. Yes, I understand the oil issues, but over fill by 500ml and you mitigate much of the issues. It is currently the only car close to 90's 2000 feel, easy to maintain, Naturally aspirated. Its like E30 M3. It is also easy to live with with wear items due to its weight, and also that it isn't AWD. Rather than replace 4 tires with AWD when a tire is not fixable, you only have to replace x2 tires. Furthermore, you can still modify it "properly" to store a compact spare, and put it in the front, not having to worry about damaging the drivetrain.
Great video, I currently own a GR Corrolla and I wanted to know, what would be the next car that you will consider? I also would like to trade mine in for something else but I'm not sure what exactly beside the Honda Civic Type R 🤔
If you were thinking about an AT, the Elantra N is great, the Golf R and Integra type s are solid, more premium options too!
Why do you want to trade in?
I see a ton of used ones around me with like 1,000km, seems like people drive them and sell them way too quick...
@@HAMMER-V100 hi broi purchased a 2024 gr corolla only 6 weeks ago,they are a tricky manual to drive ive found this withe the gr, i have been driven manual cars for over 35 years and this car is not perfect,ive done a few things on the car already, i found the gas pedal too hard so i purched a gr yaris gas pedal and removed one spring from the unit and moved the pedal close to original place about 15 mm closer to brake pedal,i found the clutch too light and the engagement is right at the top end of the travel making it tricky,so i put a extra spring in the cluch pedal for better feel,i also put more grease in the shifter moving parts also a heaver gear knob.
with doing all this the car is way better too drive,like it should have been from factory,im sure this is the reason for people selling them with stuff all kms on them.
i stalled mine driving out of the dealership with diding sit well with me straight of the bat,plus ive found the car is driving better too as the kms are coming on it, done 3500kms and it seems to getter better all the time, i also own a type r fd2 dont have a problem driving that, the corolla is quite tricky to get right but what ive done has helped heaps, sorry for long reply,all the best…..
@@neubs1969 I've been driving a manual for 45 years and found the GRC very easy to drive, it's a very forgiving car to learn on for new drivers too. DeltaX makes a gas pedal relocation kit and RacerX sells a fantastic short shifter and spherical bearings that improve a spreading excellent shifter. I wouldn't describe it tricky to drive in any way though. I absolutely love driving my GR Corolla.
Agreed on the suspension, it's the biggest shortcoming. It seems to be their way. The GR86 is much stiffer than the BRZ. I think softer, even with more roll, would more suit the rally character. Given the price, they really could have done adaptive here.
toyota has rarely ever been great with suspension tuning, out of the box. Honda on the hand is best at that and chassis.
@@LoveLikeaHurricane I haven't driven the Civic Type R, but I hear conflicting things. Some say it's way too stiff, some say the softest setting is softer than the GR. I suppose both can be true.
I just took my GR Corolla on a 5300 mile road trip and I found the suspension and ride to be just fine, not too harsh but firm enough to be sporty and handle well. You just can't please everyone.
@@LoveLikeaHurricane All I hear about the FL5 its that even the softest setting is too firm so I'm not sure I agree with you about Honda suspensions. I found it really firm when I drove it too.
Cool idea. I look forward to you buying a Miata in 1 month =)
(Miata is always the answer)
Hey Tyler, if you haven't yet you should check out the video on the Death of the Manual Transmission that Regularcars just put out. It really reinforces your point that we're probably at the end of an era, and this may be the last chance to experience a variety of cars that are purer in nature.
I'm personally trying to figure out what car in this class to buy brand new and keep it forever... so I think your new series will be awesome and really helpful.
You're like the kind of people who try and time the stock market, which statistically, doesn't work out well. Or the people predicting the end of the world. You're all the same in trying to predict the future. Strangely enough you're also saying things like "this may be". Just buy your cars and enjoy them and stop pretending to know the future while you contradict yourself in your same comment lol.
@@BadMannerKorea you have no idea about what you’re talking about and you clearly didn’t watch Realistik’s video that you’re commenting on otherwise you would know it’s an almost direct quote from him.
I’m not trying to time anything, and stock market statistics have nothing to do with this. The current trend of the automotive industry is to move away from manual transmissions and there’s a plethora of data that suggests this. With the move to electrification, we’re very likely in the last era of fun affordable manual cars.
@@enmass90 Yeah it does relate because you're trying to time the future lol. Did you not read what I said? Anyway, you should just buy cars and stop pretending and worrying about something that may or may not happen, and when it does, the timing is unknown.
@@BadMannerKorea you haven’t established anything lol. More and more manufacturers are dropping their manual options. The trend is there, the data is there, and less of the population knows how to drive them. If you disagree with the premise that affordable manual options are shrinking that’s fine, but comparing enthusiasts who are willing to purchase enthusiast cars brand new to stock market degenerates is a stretch.
I thinking about what car I’ll get once there’s nothing good on sale anymore, new OR used…
Ill give you an all original 1949 dodge dually and 03 left side drive Mitsubishi Diamante for it. I want that car and i could launch without riding the clutch.
I’m gonna need a used Kona N in this mix.
I might mention it in one video as a possible alternative though I’m keeping it strictly new here or else there might be too many rabbit holes to go down!
What % of MSRP are you getting back? I am thinking of selling mine as well
Currently looking like 90 percent! But an extra 8k miles might change that🤕
Why are you thinking of selling?
@@NorthKoreasSon Actually want to trade my '23 for a '24
I'm surprised you feel like the Elantra N is more compliant over bumps. Over here in Europe I went from the back breaking i30N to the GR Yaris, and the GRY is leaps and bounds better over bumps and potholes. It flows over them and really shows its rally DNA. The i30N was HARD even on the softest mode.
How are you surprised if you never even drove it?
GR Yaris might have a different setup altogether!
@@jralphroman Well, it's surprising that very similar models i30N/Elantra N and GR Yaris/GR Corolla would be so different that they would be reversed in this regard.
@@Realistick Maybe. I would expect them to be relatively comparable to be honest, but perhaps the Corolla is set up stiffer. The GRY drives like magic on terrible Norwegian roads at least.
The Elantra has a longer wheelbase then the I30, so probably more compliant.
The Core's grey interior makes it look more dull and not as nice versus the Circuit's all black interior.
I have never had anyone complain about the back seats at all or even ask for the seats forward. I mean yeah if you're 6'3 then it would be tight but only 14% of americans are above 6' so realistically not a huge factor. I see every video critique the back seats and center console but neither have personally been an issue. I would not even have noticed the absence of a center console had it not been for all the reviews I watched prior to buying one.
It Needs a Spare tire. I can't use it if it's going to leave me stranded in the mountains.
It can be spooky, the fix-a-flat is far from ideal, but I can’t think of a single sport compact these days that has a spare :(
Every time I see one out in the wild all I can think "is that it?"
I think that’s kind of the appeal. Nobody really knows what it is, but underneath, it’s a monster!
Do you still have your 2nd gen Tacoma?
Nope!
@@Realistick if you don’t mind me asking, was there a reason why? I’m considering to find a 4x4 2.7 2nd gen tacoma like the one you had.
I've always really liked your reviews and appreciated your presentation. This series isea is something that has not been done before (that i know of). Next level. Very few people preach about enthusiast cars and put their money where their mouth is. And searching with such an open minded approach to compare and purchase the car...what a fantastic concept. I cannot wait to see it. I wish you the very best in this journey and thanks for all you do! Subscribed and I've got my popcorn
Bet hes upgrading to a circuit 😊
Maybe it is time to try a different kind of automotive fun? How about a 1971 Plymouth Barracuda Convertible, or something else in that vein? Just skip the Mustangs, they are in a different niche. Go GM or Chrysler.
If you’re not already married, you’ll look back at this as the worst decision you ever made.
If you are married, then it’ll only be the 2nd worst.
😂I appreciate the insight
LOL 😂😂😅
Lmao
Tell me you can't pick good women without telling me you can't pick good women. My girl has been the best part of my life, and really the main reason I am still alive today.
Nothing like casual misogyny under a car video
I can't believe you are selling your GR Corolla. I just got back from a 5300 mile road trip I mine and it was a complete blast. I will never sell this car, it's just too much fun. You should have installed a RacerX short shifter, spherical bearings, and pitch mount. It's amazing the difference they make in the shifter feel. I didn't find the suspension overly harsh in any way during my trip, just nice and firm as I drove back roads on the majority of the trip. You're going to regret this decision!
I’ll drive each car and if I think the GRC is the best, I’ll buy it again!
@@Realistick So why not keep it and wait? That way if you like it the most you will already still have it? 🤣
Golf R next?
Potentially, it’s part of the series🤫
2025 Black Edition Golf R?
The least crap reason to sell a sports car uttered by any UA-camr in recent years
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You can't put Hyandai on the same level as Toyota. Don't compare ever.
Why are you going to waste $800. on new tires if you are getting rid of it soon?? That is just Stupid! 🙄
I wish they were $800😂 The cross country series will be 8000 miles or more and will include track driving, the tires are a necessity.
Wish they would just bring GR-Yaris over. Corolla is too big and too tall for my liking.
it's a bit tall, but it's not much longer. i'd love to see the yaris over here too. rumor has it the celica is about to make a return, so most likely we'll get that with the GR powertrain (sans motor)
Do me a favor with this travel series and convince me i need a new mustang gt to enjoy to swansong of internal combustion before I'm wafting around in a lady shaver for the rest of my days. Good looks bud.
A 5.0 shall be in the mix🤠
@Realistick have you ever considered any crossover content with a channel like RCR? Since you're headed that way anyhow I feel like that would be hilarious content as long as both styles had a chance to stand out..
My east coast schedule might be too tight for that one but that is a good idea, maybe if I can get ahold of him, that could be a possibility! I’ve tried reaching out to other channels that are much larger than my own and haven’t heard anything back🫤
Selling it before it blows. Toyota's turbos are not doing well.
The ones with electronic wastegates haven’t been perfect, this one has a more simple design (vacuum operated wg)
Probably a good idea, considering these 3 bangers are exploding
Talked with the Car Care Nut about the GR Corolla recently, he’s a big fan of it (and he advised not to sell it🤕)
Can you provide a link to the 3cylinders being unreliable?
bullshit. they're extremely reliable stock. only when pushing mega power do the valves float and that one guy who money shifted at 500 miles while racing it within the break-in period - lol. i have 1500 miles on mine so far, internals are in very good shape.
@@WeTryMotorsports A 1.6 L pushing over 25 psi stock is not going to be reliable lol.
@@TheRealCatof where's your numbers? statistics? articles? you do realize R&D at Toyota stress tested these over 200k without issues right? Toyota G16E-GTS has made over 900 HP without major modifications either. if you'd like, we can link about 1000 articles touting how incredible the powertrain is. now if you were to attack the interior, then i'd agree but i wouldn't go with a proven platform being the crutch.
Thank goodness. Was getting tired of econo boxes. You going to do Porsche drive and get a new Porsche every week?
The econoboxes are what's relatable for most people though.
@@ericpromisco2213 they're also the ones ppl buy without test driving. It's what ppl end up with
@@ericpromisco2213 they're also the cars ppl don't bother test drive and end up having to get
Was gonna get a GR Corolla, but now i own a Veloster N im glad i never got one. The N has so so much more diversity. And its a real performance car.
More diversity?
do explain about diversity. i'd argue the opposite. GR has much more diversity.
Pretty much every car mechanic says stay clear of Hyundai. Toyota versus a Hyundai, no comparison.
Sorry you made such decision. Well, after all is your money. Let’s see how you feel 4 years from now.
A haircut would improve your driving experience!
At least he has hair
I made the same comment a few videos back and he said he has a plan for it. We’ll have to wait and see later.
Answer..... Volkswagen Golf R
Negative
GR Corolla is a hunk of shit. Thing should be $20k. 3 cylinder econobox that costs more then a v8 muscle car and has a 10th of the performance.
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you have no idea what you're talking about. horsepower isn't everything, this is a track machine. i thought it was overpriced until i got out on the track.. boy was i proven wrong and then ended up purchasing one lol
@@WeTryMotorsports the special edition morizo edition is substantially slower on track then a basic ass PP Mustang GT and a Camaro 1LE.
@@BlackWater6937 my replied got canned due to links proving you absolutely wrong. 9/10 times the GR beat the GT and 1LE (stock, keep in mind) on the track. however, the GR corolla is ALSO rally inspired. How do you think the Mustang GT and Camaro fair in Rally? You're comparing apples to peppers here. Different strokes for different folks. The Camaro 1LE and Mustang GT (Six, not the 4) are both ~43k. Also, you're getting an American made car with nearly zero resale value vs a Japanese car with high resale value. You're also getting RWD vs AWD. personally, I wouldn't be caught dead in American trash made hunks of junk with abysmal reliability, but that's me. i would add links but youtube doesn't allow it. keep on keeping on though. get in a GR corolla and tell us how it's worth 20k.
@@WeTryMotorsports the poverty Hyundai Elantra N is equally as fast on track as the GRC.
VIR lap times
Morizo GRC: 2:59
2018+ Mustang GT PP: 2:53
Throttle house lap times:
GRC: 1:14
2018+ Mustang GT PP: 1:12
Didn’t even look up the Camaro SS 1LE times since it’s obviously much faster then the GT. Ah yeah I’m so sure the vast majority of the poor people buying GRC’s are totally gonna be rallying them. They can’t even afford a nice car I’m sure they’d just love to beat up their Corolla off roading it. Lmao