Are you thinking about commuting in snow on Summer tires? DON'T! As I said at 3:20, tires are pivotal, and I hope you got to see why in the video. We only get snow on the road once or twice a year in Southern Indiana so the snow test portion was me trying out the AWD on empty backroads and an abandoned subdivision with a max speed of 25 mph. Stay-in or buy different rubber if you have to go out with snow accumulation on the road. They are *fine* when the pavement is cold or wet, but DO NOT COMMUTE ON THESE TIRES IN SNOW. Thanks for watching.
Yeah, I'm in southern Indiana and I know snow tires are really helpful but the idea of so much expense and then having to swap and store four tires is realistically a non-starter for almost everyone, even in places where snow is common. I wish there was a seamless way to switch to snow tires for like a month when they're needed without significant cost and inconvenience. I have all seasons on a Crosstrek and that works well enough but I've still been driving as little as possible with all this snow. That said, what is the point of a "winter review" when you then explicitly tell viewers not to use the setup in the video? Doesn't make sense to me for you to make a video demonstrating that it can be done and that it's manageable but then telling people not to do it in the comments. Seems like you just didn't want to invest in proper tires for a one-off video (understandable) but tires make a big difference and I really feel like the vibe of the video could encourage others to drive on unsafe summer tires if they don't look at the comments. Plus you had to drive using an inherently unsafe setup (no matter how slow and isolated) in order to make the video.
@@paulgemperlein626 I agree, that's why I haven't bought snow tires either, I don't go out when there's snow accumulation unless I have no other way home. I hear your concern. I said in the video (and showed) how bad summer tires are in snow so I don't feel that it encourages driving with them in the snow HOWEVER I think I could have taken some more time to explain that I don't drive when it's snowy out. This video was more off-the-cuff. I saw snow and wanted to see how the AWD system would handle it. I also wanted to highlight some of the advantages that the Toyota has over some of its competitors on real roads. If I could do it over again and I could rely on snow, I'd do the test with both summer tires and snow tires, that would be really cool and worth the cash. Lessons for next time.
I found a set of Steelies and Blizzaks with a winter or two left of rubber on Facebook marketplace- for $160! I drive 150 miles a day for work in Michigan. The difference in performance, traction, and safety is outstanding. I'll be saving for a new set over the summer.
UHP summer tires should not be used in the cold. PS4S for example are very dangerous when you get to sub-40 F weather, add a bit of moisture and it's even worse. The PS4 here are not as bad but still not a good idea. It doesn't help anyone to make a video that does not clearly explain the safety risks of using summer tires in winter weather. There are already too many people who went over budget on their new hot hatch, are trying to skimp on tires, and putting themselves and others in danger
You're on summer tires? In moderate to deep snow? Really? Summer tires generally turn into hockey pucks around 40 - 45 degrees - amazing you and the GR got as far as you did. I suspect there's a better tire compromise (unless your ultimate GR goal is summer track work).
I usually just stay at home when there's snow on the road (it's pretty rare here), so I've never had any issues with the PS4s. I was kind of curious how they would perform in snow so that's the main reason why I made this video. They performed much better than I thought on cold surfaces, just terrible when snow/ice get involved. The AWD did a good job of getting the car back home, definitely not trying this one again!
@@bucknut2000 What are you smoking? They are the stock tire on my Mustang and when its cold out(lower 30's) its like driving on ice till they warm up. Once they warm up they are okay, but when driving in snow its gonna take LONG time to get any heat in them. Even a little bit extra gas make me spin enough to trigger traction control just when COLD and there isn't snow. Are you thinking about the AS4?
@@KeithSchwerin no, i ran the PS4S for two years in Northen ohio and SE michigan on my GTI. I have other cars when it got snowy, but if it was dry and cold, it was fine and when I got caught in the snow I was fine. The mustang probably has much wider tires, the GTI is only 225 wide.
I have this car on Nokian R5 winter tires and it can be an absolute delinquent in the best possible way. A few inches of fresh snow, 30/70 mode, and TC to Expert or Off results in drives that go into my top 5 ever list. There’s something about the way it does what it does. It’s raw, and brash, and incredibly confident. More like a partner in crime than a conveyance. Toyota did it a disservice by initially showing the car to the press on a racetrack. They should have shown it on an icy lake or a dirt course. The reaction would have been very different methinks.
The old Galant VR4 and my other modified DSMs were amazing in the snow with snow tires. Nothing really beats 4 wheel drifting, opposite lock, turbo sounds, wastegate dumping, while snow falls and nobody else is out on the roads. I'm still seeking that high.
I own a 2024 GR premium. Got it specifically to go snowboarding in the winter, but I live in Socal so it's warm until I drive to the mountains. Got the Michelin Pilot All Seasons on mine during the winter and they are great in the snow. They handle the conditions you were in with ease. The best setting is to go to track mode and turn traction control all the way off, that is, hold down traction off until the expert light goes off, but the traction warning lights stay on. You will get the best snow traction, and predictable sliding this way. I found traction control on will cut power in unpredictable ways here and there. It's a beast in the snow! And you are a bit nuts to drive in those conditions with summers on. They have zero grip under freezing temps.
Hi Tyler I had both a 2021 MX-5 RF and the 2023 GRC Core with the Tech and Performance packages for 7 months. I sold the Miata when I realized for the amount of driving I did having 2 cars was unnecessary. Do I regret it - Yes but not because the GRC is inferior! Only because I’m a greedy piggy and would love to be able to experience both at will. They both have tremendous personality the Miata is just a bit purer. Thanks for the engaging content and enjoy your new car.
I switched mine to Pilot sports AS4, probably will get a new set of wheels for my stock summer tires for autocross and track use. So far had 0 issues in Michigan winter, minus hitting black ice hiding under snow on 90 degree turn but not even dedicated snow tires will save you from that. I got them around late fall, and they were fantastic on dry road as well. Hardly noticed difference with my PS4 with given limitation on pushing the car on public road.
I might consider those for my Miata then! Sounds like a pretty nice compromise. I would definitely recommend the ps4s or an even more durable track tire for autocross. There was a big difference switching from the ps4 to ps4s and I think you’ll appreciate them at the limit.
22 Cayman GTS 4.0 for the weekend and 24 Circuit for my daily it’s the perfect combo. I just dropped $2500 on wheels and Michelin x ice. The GR was awesome snow drifting in Lake Tahoe during a recent snowboarding trip!
@Realistick Awesome! I'm curious as well, because the dynamic torque split might be a deal breaker for me if I can't get 30:70 on demand like I'd want.
Folks have to chill. He knows these tires aren't meant for snow/ice. He states that in the video. He's driving in area's where no one else is and is driving slow. Relax! Let him have his fun. I've seen so many other videos of different youtubers doing truly stupid things.
If you're not going with an aftermarket set, start shopping for 'pre-owned' Mazda wheels for those snow tires you should be getting. If you can order specific tires on a new Mazda, I would recommend 'ultra high performance all-season' tires. My top choice, PilotSportAllSeason4's don't come in my Outback's size, so I'm looking at getting something similar from Pirelli to replace my mediocre OE tires. I drive in freezing temps in Winter, but I also have Blizzaks..
I made the mistake of driving my Elantra N with PS4S during winter here in Chicago last year. In snow it was damn near undrivable. It's like driving on ice with glass tires. Do not recommend. Will never do that again. I survived without any issues but I got lucky.
that's why videos like this frustrate me. People don't take seriously the danger of using UHP summer tires in sub-40 degree weather, and videos like this don't help
The Golf R is more well-rounded and comfortable so I think that would be "better," yet I would personally go with the GR Corolla again for the fun factor!
I'm looking for an awd hot hatch, so it's between these two for me. If only GR Corolla had a bit more space in the back and a nicer interior for the money they're charging. I think I'll wait for Golf R 8.5 gen, test drive both and decide.
You don't need to be more diligent in feathering the clutch, you need to start off in 2nd gear. Less torque. It's a manual driver's winter technique. This car clearly has more winter capability, these tires are showing that badly.
Having those tires on my Mustang I honestly feel like the AWD system is the only reason you didn't get in more trouble with them. Love your vids, but totally think you should reconsider snow vids with Summer tires in the future. If not for any other reason then I don't wanna read "car youtubers dies in snow accident" XD
Absolutely, I do not commute in the snow with the GR Corolla but trying it out does make me want to drive a GR with some snow tires. They usually put them on the press car so maybe I can make that one happen! Thank you for caring 🫶
One thing that always gets posted on these kind of videos is how much safer winter tires are in this kind of weather. That is true - but the biggest reason you should put them on your awd car is because they turn it into an absolute riot of fun. As soon as you add a bit of confidence your car will stop and turn in the snow, you can have the time of your life with it in the snow. My STi turned from a moderately quick and grippy summer car with a nice rumble, to an absolute blast in the winter once I got snow tires. 4 wheel drifts on demand, tail out, or just taking off from some lights almost as fast as in the dry. Same with my BRZ - so much fun.
I drive my MX-5 in the Quebec winters which drives better than your GR Corolla in the snow cause I'm rocking winter tires. PS: It's the law here if you want to drive your car in the winter. Thx for the great videos
Reviewing an all wheel drive car in winter conditions on summer tires makes this "review" irrelevant. Get some real winter tires and be safe and have some fun.
I see that point, but I think each approach is relevant. This is how the car ships and to me, it shows how important upgrading the tires is if you need to commute in the snow. And it shows how damn impressive that AWD is along with why the GRC is a better 4 season car than its foes... This was a quick, "oh look, it's snowing for once and the roads are empty" video. In the future, I will plan it out more🫡
Driving in the snow on the stock Summer only tires and then cant get up a hill and start sliding 🙄. First thing i did with my GR was at 1000miles in October I bought Ultra HP all season P ZERO™ AS PLUS 3. It goes like a champ in snow. Showing the AWD in snow on summers isnt a review of the cars ability in winter at all.
It made it up each hill! Toyota ships the car with summer tires so I'd still say this is relevant to folks like me who don't typically buy snow tires because they get road accumulation once a year. I was quite impressed how the AWD dealt with the traction. I'd like to do a video with snow tires someday but that's more out of curiosity than necessity for me.
ND3 owner here. I test drove a GRC and ended up with a Model Y Performance. Its surprisingly very similar, except a huge amount of passenger and luggage space and incredible torque and acceleration and linear throttle. Like the GRC, its not a 8/10ths car, but amazing fun daily and on backroads
wow doing this with summer performance tires is really brave nah it's stupid. You will crash the moment you want to turn or stop. AWD just stops you from being stuck. Get proper tires JFC
Yep, that's what I said in the video! We only get snowy roads once or twice a year so I've never bought snow tires and I usually just stay in. This was for fun🤟
I appreciate the concern, it is DUMB. Though, it's important to remember a lot of places only have snow once or twice a year (like southern Indiana). This video shows how important snow/all-season tires are, how a GR corolla does in the snow from the factory, and how the awd system works. Speeds were kept below 30 mph (mostly to 20 mph) and the hill climbs were filmed on an abandoned road. The higher speed portion was on dry (but salty pavement) and on a different day.
@@Realistick I kind of agree that it's hard to justify intentionally going out and finding challenging public road conditions using mid-life summer tires just for a video but I'm glad you're at least addressing the criticism directly.
I said don't be like me IN THE VIDEO😂 I kept the speed limit to 25 mph to compensate and drove on empty roads, but yes, if you need to commute in snow, don't use the tires that come with the car!
@@Realistick I like a lot of your videos so I don't want to be harsh but I do think you should take all of the comments to heart here. Your example above is like making a video all about you driving over 100 MPH on empty public roads and then having a 30-second section where you say "by the way don't do this." The disclaimer doesn't solve the fact that you made the video in the first place. And the amount of time you spent talking about the AWD system instead of tires suggests potentially a fundamental misunderstanding on your part about driving in winter weather. As I said in a different comment, there are a bunch of people who overextend themselves on these cars and then convince themselves they don't need to spend the extra $500-1000 to be safe in the winter - an argument you yourself made in the video and comments below. If you're not going to get appropriate tires, then don't drive the car unless it's an emergency
Thank you for watching the videos, I have listened to people's concerns and I think that has helped me learn more about how to conduct a video like this. I disagree on the example you presented. One of those is VERY illegal with regularly tragic consequences (yet some UA-camrs still just blur the speedo). And the other is a legal activity on the type of tires the car is sold with. I don't mean to undermine your point, but the force of an object rises dramatically with speed. If someone is going 35 mph on all-seasons, they're carrying close to double the force of someone on summer tires doing 25 mph. I don't see them stopping any quicker and they'll have less time to react too (that topic could make for a good video test). If I did it again, I would spend more time making sure people know the precautions that I am taking to stay safe so that there's no confusion on the limitations of summer tires. While I don't personally need them (we get snow on the road once or twice a year and I usually stay in), I would also use winter tires to avoid concerns altogether, something I did not predict. Lessons learned.
@@Realistick I'm not sure I agree. Legal vs. illegal is not always the same as safe vs. unsafe. It's not illegal to drive the speed limit in the snow in traffic on Cup 2s. But I would argue that is less safe than driving 100 MPH on empty public roads. Based on the video itself I'm not sure if you understood before filming (or even if you understand now) how dangerous UHP tires can be when temperatures drop. And if you knew that beforehand, I'm not sure why you decided to make a video 95% about the AWD system of the car
Are you thinking about commuting in snow on Summer tires? DON'T! As I said at 3:20, tires are pivotal, and I hope you got to see why in the video. We only get snow on the road once or twice a year in Southern Indiana so the snow test portion was me trying out the AWD on empty backroads and an abandoned subdivision with a max speed of 25 mph. Stay-in or buy different rubber if you have to go out with snow accumulation on the road. They are *fine* when the pavement is cold or wet, but DO NOT COMMUTE ON THESE TIRES IN SNOW. Thanks for watching.
Yeah, I'm in southern Indiana and I know snow tires are really helpful but the idea of so much expense and then having to swap and store four tires is realistically a non-starter for almost everyone, even in places where snow is common. I wish there was a seamless way to switch to snow tires for like a month when they're needed without significant cost and inconvenience. I have all seasons on a Crosstrek and that works well enough but I've still been driving as little as possible with all this snow.
That said, what is the point of a "winter review" when you then explicitly tell viewers not to use the setup in the video? Doesn't make sense to me for you to make a video demonstrating that it can be done and that it's manageable but then telling people not to do it in the comments. Seems like you just didn't want to invest in proper tires for a one-off video (understandable) but tires make a big difference and I really feel like the vibe of the video could encourage others to drive on unsafe summer tires if they don't look at the comments. Plus you had to drive using an inherently unsafe setup (no matter how slow and isolated) in order to make the video.
@@paulgemperlein626 I agree, that's why I haven't bought snow tires either, I don't go out when there's snow accumulation unless I have no other way home. I hear your concern. I said in the video (and showed) how bad summer tires are in snow so I don't feel that it encourages driving with them in the snow HOWEVER I think I could have taken some more time to explain that I don't drive when it's snowy out. This video was more off-the-cuff. I saw snow and wanted to see how the AWD system would handle it. I also wanted to highlight some of the advantages that the Toyota has over some of its competitors on real roads. If I could do it over again and I could rely on snow, I'd do the test with both summer tires and snow tires, that would be really cool and worth the cash. Lessons for next time.
I love my Michelin Crossclimate tires, great all year
I found a set of Steelies and Blizzaks with a winter or two left of rubber on Facebook marketplace- for $160!
I drive 150 miles a day for work in Michigan. The difference in performance, traction, and safety is outstanding. I'll be saving for a new set over the summer.
UHP summer tires should not be used in the cold. PS4S for example are very dangerous when you get to sub-40 F weather, add a bit of moisture and it's even worse. The PS4 here are not as bad but still not a good idea. It doesn't help anyone to make a video that does not clearly explain the safety risks of using summer tires in winter weather. There are already too many people who went over budget on their new hot hatch, are trying to skimp on tires, and putting themselves and others in danger
You're on summer tires? In moderate to deep snow? Really? Summer tires generally turn into hockey pucks around 40 - 45 degrees - amazing you and the GR got as far as you did. I suspect there's a better tire compromise (unless your ultimate GR goal is summer track work).
I usually just stay at home when there's snow on the road (it's pretty rare here), so I've never had any issues with the PS4s. I was kind of curious how they would perform in snow so that's the main reason why I made this video. They performed much better than I thought on cold surfaces, just terrible when snow/ice get involved. The AWD did a good job of getting the car back home, definitely not trying this one again!
PS4s from my experience are fine up to about an inch of snow. In the cold for normal driving they were fine.
@@bucknut2000 What are you smoking? They are the stock tire on my Mustang and when its cold out(lower 30's) its like driving on ice till they warm up. Once they warm up they are okay, but when driving in snow its gonna take LONG time to get any heat in them. Even a little bit extra gas make me spin enough to trigger traction control just when COLD and there isn't snow. Are you thinking about the AS4?
@@KeithSchwerin no, i ran the PS4S for two years in Northen ohio and SE michigan on my GTI. I have other cars when it got snowy, but if it was dry and cold, it was fine and when I got caught in the snow I was fine. The mustang probably has much wider tires, the GTI is only 225 wide.
I drive summer tyre's all year long never had an issue sounds like a driver error lol
Living in Canada with an STI and winter tires - some of the most fun you can have.
That GRC is like an advertisement for Toyota. You have showcased the power of that AWD system when you said its ON SUMMER TIRES. WOW
I have this car on Nokian R5 winter tires and it can be an absolute delinquent in the best possible way. A few inches of fresh snow, 30/70 mode, and TC to Expert or Off results in drives that go into my top 5 ever list.
There’s something about the way it does what it does. It’s raw, and brash, and incredibly confident. More like a partner in crime than a conveyance.
Toyota did it a disservice by initially showing the car to the press on a racetrack. They should have shown it on an icy lake or a dirt course. The reaction would have been very different methinks.
Kappaliitas are my next winter tire once I burn thru my vredesteins
The old Galant VR4 and my other modified DSMs were amazing in the snow with snow tires. Nothing really beats 4 wheel drifting, opposite lock, turbo sounds, wastegate dumping, while snow falls and nobody else is out on the roads. I'm still seeking that high.
Great review keep up the amazing work
this car would be such an animal with winter tires.
I own a 2024 GR premium. Got it specifically to go snowboarding in the winter, but I live in Socal so it's warm until I drive to the mountains. Got the Michelin Pilot All Seasons on mine during the winter and they are great in the snow. They handle the conditions you were in with ease. The best setting is to go to track mode and turn traction control all the way off, that is, hold down traction off until the expert light goes off, but the traction warning lights stay on. You will get the best snow traction, and predictable sliding this way. I found traction control on will cut power in unpredictable ways here and there. It's a beast in the snow! And you are a bit nuts to drive in those conditions with summers on. They have zero grip under freezing temps.
You know how good the awd system is when you can climb snow hills on summer tires
Hi Tyler
I had both a 2021 MX-5 RF and the 2023 GRC Core with the Tech and Performance packages for 7 months. I sold the Miata when I realized for the amount of driving I did having 2 cars was unnecessary. Do I regret it - Yes but not because the GRC is inferior! Only because I’m a greedy piggy and would love to be able to experience both at will.
They both have tremendous personality the Miata is just a bit purer.
Thanks for the engaging content and enjoy your new car.
Thanks for watching, that's a hard decision that I hope I never have to make😅 You do have one of the best one-car solutions at least!
I switched mine to Pilot sports AS4, probably will get a new set of wheels for my stock summer tires for autocross and track use. So far had 0 issues in Michigan winter, minus hitting black ice hiding under snow on 90 degree turn but not even dedicated snow tires will save you from that. I got them around late fall, and they were fantastic on dry road as well. Hardly noticed difference with my PS4 with given limitation on pushing the car on public road.
I might consider those for my Miata then! Sounds like a pretty nice compromise. I would definitely recommend the ps4s or an even more durable track tire for autocross. There was a big difference switching from the ps4 to ps4s and I think you’ll appreciate them at the limit.
@@Realistick I was thinking about just selling my PS4 to get something else, I will consider it!
22 Cayman GTS 4.0 for the weekend and 24 Circuit for my daily it’s the perfect combo. I just dropped $2500 on wheels and Michelin x ice. The GR was awesome snow drifting in Lake Tahoe during a recent snowboarding trip!
Do you think the 2025 update is any better for this car?
On paper, yes. I plan on filming a comparison asap!
@Realistick excellent!
@Realistick Awesome! I'm curious as well, because the dynamic torque split might be a deal breaker for me if I can't get 30:70 on demand like I'd want.
Folks have to chill. He knows these tires aren't meant for snow/ice. He states that in the video. He's driving in area's where no one else is and is driving slow. Relax! Let him have his fun. I've seen so many other videos of different youtubers doing truly stupid things.
If you're not going with an aftermarket set, start shopping for 'pre-owned' Mazda wheels for those snow tires you should be getting.
If you can order specific tires on a new Mazda, I would recommend 'ultra high performance all-season' tires. My top choice, PilotSportAllSeason4's don't come in my Outback's size, so I'm looking at getting something similar from Pirelli to replace my mediocre OE tires. I drive in freezing temps in Winter, but I also have Blizzaks..
A new set of wheels are my top priority for the MX-5, I think a snow review on winter tires would be excellent Miata content.
Driving in the snow ❄️ looks like a lot of fun.
It's a blast on open roads!
Can't do this with an FL5 😭
I made the mistake of driving my Elantra N with PS4S during winter here in Chicago last year. In snow it was damn near undrivable. It's like driving on ice with glass tires. Do not recommend. Will never do that again. I survived without any issues but I got lucky.
that's why videos like this frustrate me. People don't take seriously the danger of using UHP summer tires in sub-40 degree weather, and videos like this don't help
Hey Michelin says driving around in sub 40F conditions may reduce the life of PS4S tires, and can lead to cracking just FYI.
Noted, I don't drive my personal car much in frigid conditions but I'll look out for it.
Facts. Even when its mid 30's the ones on my Mustang are slippery till they warm up. Even if its dry out.
Tires are more important than 4 or 10 wheel drive bro
Yes, I said that, more than once🥸
I thought he replaced this with a Miata
My Miata is being built in two weeks!
I feel like for a "winter review" it would have been nice to see at least all season tires if not full on winter tires.
Next time!
Would you take this or Golf R for a daily driver?
The Golf R is more well-rounded and comfortable so I think that would be "better," yet I would personally go with the GR Corolla again for the fun factor!
I'm looking for an awd hot hatch, so it's between these two for me. If only GR Corolla had a bit more space in the back and a nicer interior for the money they're charging. I think I'll wait for Golf R 8.5 gen, test drive both and decide.
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@Realistick 😂
You don't need to be more diligent in feathering the clutch, you need to start off in 2nd gear. Less torque. It's a manual driver's winter technique. This car clearly has more winter capability, these tires are showing that badly.
I am confused: I thought you replace your GR Corolla.
I talk about that in this video, I'm still waiting on the MX-5 to come in!
@@Realistick @13:06 you you did. Thanks.
Wait, I thought you were getting a Type R?
No winters?? Really
Having those tires on my Mustang I honestly feel like the AWD system is the only reason you didn't get in more trouble with them. Love your vids, but totally think you should reconsider snow vids with Summer tires in the future. If not for any other reason then I don't wanna read "car youtubers dies in snow accident" XD
Absolutely, I do not commute in the snow with the GR Corolla but trying it out does make me want to drive a GR with some snow tires. They usually put them on the press car so maybe I can make that one happen! Thank you for caring 🫶
One thing that always gets posted on these kind of videos is how much safer winter tires are in this kind of weather. That is true - but the biggest reason you should put them on your awd car is because they turn it into an absolute riot of fun. As soon as you add a bit of confidence your car will stop and turn in the snow, you can have the time of your life with it in the snow. My STi turned from a moderately quick and grippy summer car with a nice rumble, to an absolute blast in the winter once I got snow tires. 4 wheel drifts on demand, tail out, or just taking off from some lights almost as fast as in the dry. Same with my BRZ - so much fun.
I drive my MX-5 in the Quebec winters which drives better than your GR Corolla in the snow cause I'm rocking winter tires. PS: It's the law here if you want to drive your car in the winter.
Thx for the great videos
Reviewing an all wheel drive car in winter conditions on summer tires makes this "review" irrelevant. Get some real winter tires and be safe and have some fun.
I see that point, but I think each approach is relevant. This is how the car ships and to me, it shows how important upgrading the tires is if you need to commute in the snow. And it shows how damn impressive that AWD is along with why the GRC is a better 4 season car than its foes... This was a quick, "oh look, it's snowing for once and the roads are empty" video. In the future, I will plan it out more🫡
Driving in the snow on the stock Summer only tires and then cant get up a hill and start sliding 🙄. First thing i did with my GR was at 1000miles in October I bought Ultra HP all season P ZERO™ AS PLUS 3. It goes like a champ in snow. Showing the AWD in snow on summers isnt a review of the cars ability in winter at all.
+1 for the Plus 3's. That's what I got as well. They should come stock.
It made it up each hill! Toyota ships the car with summer tires so I'd still say this is relevant to folks like me who don't typically buy snow tires because they get road accumulation once a year. I was quite impressed how the AWD dealt with the traction. I'd like to do a video with snow tires someday but that's more out of curiosity than necessity for me.
ND3 owner here. I test drove a GRC and ended up with a Model Y Performance. Its surprisingly very similar, except a huge amount of passenger and luggage space and incredible torque and acceleration and linear throttle. Like the GRC, its not a 8/10ths car, but amazing fun daily and on backroads
Man I’ve had an MYP the last 4 years and it’s the perfect daily but am considering getting the GRC because I miss stick shift…
@SnowbirdSteeze understood. My ND3 gives me all the communication and manual itch I have lol
all seasons?
No, Michelin Pilot Sport 4s (not recommended for snow but they're fine when it's just cold or wet)
They are worn summer tires
A regular fwd corrola with snow tires is more fun and safer than a gr on summer tires. Please dont do this on public road.
not first
wow doing this with summer performance tires is really brave nah it's stupid. You will crash the moment you want to turn or stop. AWD just stops you from being stuck. Get proper tires JFC
Yep, that's what I said in the video! We only get snowy roads once or twice a year so I've never bought snow tires and I usually just stay in. This was for fun🤟
Review should be really about tires
Summer tires really man? You're lucky you didn't crash. Dumb ass video, the awd is useless without proper winters...
I appreciate the concern, it is DUMB. Though, it's important to remember a lot of places only have snow once or twice a year (like southern Indiana). This video shows how important snow/all-season tires are, how a GR corolla does in the snow from the factory, and how the awd system works. Speeds were kept below 30 mph (mostly to 20 mph) and the hill climbs were filmed on an abandoned road. The higher speed portion was on dry (but salty pavement) and on a different day.
@@Realistick I kind of agree that it's hard to justify intentionally going out and finding challenging public road conditions using mid-life summer tires just for a video but I'm glad you're at least addressing the criticism directly.
Yeah, you also should eat your vegetables .
Very stupid. Even if it's only for a short time, you don't drive in the snow with summer tires.
So you're on AS tires? WTF. Get out out foo. Waste my time for winter driving. I'm on Conti DSW'S on my VB. I would dominate a Tacoma in that snow.
This video is so dumb. I have a '24 WRX -RS ( ie CDN TR) and I use Winter Tires in the Winter. Stopped watching soon as he mentioned no snows,
Driving in the snow on summer tires is dangerous and irresponsible - both for yourself and others. Don't be like this guy
I said don't be like me IN THE VIDEO😂 I kept the speed limit to 25 mph to compensate and drove on empty roads, but yes, if you need to commute in snow, don't use the tires that come with the car!
@@Realistick I like a lot of your videos so I don't want to be harsh but I do think you should take all of the comments to heart here. Your example above is like making a video all about you driving over 100 MPH on empty public roads and then having a 30-second section where you say "by the way don't do this." The disclaimer doesn't solve the fact that you made the video in the first place. And the amount of time you spent talking about the AWD system instead of tires suggests potentially a fundamental misunderstanding on your part about driving in winter weather.
As I said in a different comment, there are a bunch of people who overextend themselves on these cars and then convince themselves they don't need to spend the extra $500-1000 to be safe in the winter - an argument you yourself made in the video and comments below. If you're not going to get appropriate tires, then don't drive the car unless it's an emergency
Thank you for watching the videos, I have listened to people's concerns and I think that has helped me learn more about how to conduct a video like this. I disagree on the example you presented. One of those is VERY illegal with regularly tragic consequences (yet some UA-camrs still just blur the speedo). And the other is a legal activity on the type of tires the car is sold with. I don't mean to undermine your point, but the force of an object rises dramatically with speed.
If someone is going 35 mph on all-seasons, they're carrying close to double the force of someone on summer tires doing 25 mph. I don't see them stopping any quicker and they'll have less time to react too (that topic could make for a good video test). If I did it again, I would spend more time making sure people know the precautions that I am taking to stay safe so that there's no confusion on the limitations of summer tires. While I don't personally need them (we get snow on the road once or twice a year and I usually stay in), I would also use winter tires to avoid concerns altogether, something I did not predict. Lessons learned.
@@Realistick I'm not sure I agree. Legal vs. illegal is not always the same as safe vs. unsafe. It's not illegal to drive the speed limit in the snow in traffic on Cup 2s. But I would argue that is less safe than driving 100 MPH on empty public roads. Based on the video itself I'm not sure if you understood before filming (or even if you understand now) how dangerous UHP tires can be when temperatures drop. And if you knew that beforehand, I'm not sure why you decided to make a video 95% about the AWD system of the car
The more videos I see of this car the more it looks like it just sucks honestly
Summer tires... 🙄
the corrola is not made for winter bro (especially the gr)
With winter tires or all seasons, I'd disagree strongly, it's a beast!
You are incredibly slow if you truly believe that
Why would an AWD car with 2 LSD's NOT be fine in winter? His issue is just the tires.
@@KeithSchwerin litteraly. I don't know what this guy is thinking, plus the gr corolla is based off a rally platform