RARE 1958 Mack B-21 Fire Truck WILL IT RUN After 30 Years Of Sitting?
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- Опубліковано 7 кві 2023
- 1 of 6 Mack B-21 Fire truck with MASSIVE 1091ci HallScott engine. Will it run after 30 years of sitting?
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I worked for Mack Trucks for 30 years and got to drive a lot of experimental trucks. I have seen a lot of old
and extremely rare one of a kind trucks as well. I am so impressed to see this one run so well after setting
so many years. It is definitly a rare truck. It must have extremely low miles by the sound of that montser of
an inline 6. Good find. Regards from Ody Slim
Haha, I love the fact that you are surprised it started. I stay up too late watching videos like this every night, my fiancé don't get it.
As a retired fire fighter,I am amazed that you got the old engine running! I would be interested to see a video when you get the old pumper restored! They just don't make them like that anymore!
We do have plans to test out these old pumps! 1500 GPM absolutely incredible! haha stay tuned
@@Edward-Thaine thanks! It would be great to see those old pumps working again!
Retired fire fighter here too. Fun to watch this old iron run.
@deanhoward4128 😢
This is a fantastic restoration project, the fire truck looks 99% complete and it certainly runs alright, ticks over a treat firing on all cylinders evenly. So a great basis for restoration to bring that valuable old piece of Americana back to her former glory. Good luck!
This truck has an unbelievable quality. The metal, the paint, the engine! After all that years!
Loved the moment at the end. I nearly spit my coffee out! Absolutely fabulous!
haha! Glad you enjoyed it! We thought it was a nice treat to end on. Thanks for watching!
as a diesel technology student i love the old gas trucks 👍🦅🇺🇸❤️🤍💙
I love these old mechanical beasts, thank you for resurrecting this one. It is truly special.
Please bring back the Mack. I love this truck. Well done.
Lots more of these macks to come! Thanks for watching!
An engine of that quality will never be seen again. Absolutely incredible engineering back in the day. You really need to get a drum of Rotella 15w-40 some filters and dump that old oil. Don't forget the coolant also. Not sure what part of the country this is but one night below freezing and it's going to be a shame. I could listen to that engine running all day and never get tired of it. Under a good load pumping water would be awesome too. Great video
I would’ve changed the oil and filters first thing. Not too expensive and essential for the motor, especially after so many years of sitting.
We did drain the water out right after we parked it. We live in WA so it does get cold! Oil change and coolant are first on our list before we do anything else. The video doesn't quite do it justice, it sounds incredible! Thanks for watching!
mmo couldnt hurt either :)
@Edward-Thaine wish I could add a pic of my 57 b733 in the comments. Also in washington. Thanks for the video.
That engine ran remarkably smooth. Thanks for the video.....learned something new today, I had never heard of Hall-Scott engines prior to today.
That's a great firetruck! IT would make a great restoration. One thing I'd add is to be careful putting air in those tires. Truck tiers can let go with lethal force .
Just found your channel by way of random youtube recommendations, I remember hearing about these giant inline-6's talking with one of the old timers at a local junkyard before it closed. He always said the reason these engines stay with the trucks they're in is because they're just too damned heavy for anyone to lift, and man I can believe that. You'd need a massive crane to get that engine out.
Awesome find, can't wait to see more. Keep up the good work man, glad another relic was saved from the dust piles of history. Cars, trucks, heavy equipment, old electronics and gadgets, don't matter what it is, if every last piece of the past is left to turn to dust, no one will get to experience it because everyone who did will have died off.
i think the engine alone weighs almost 3000 lbs! Thank you for watching, we will have lots more cool trucks and alot more of these beauties coming!
@@Edward-Thaine if that engine weighs anything less than my daily beater 2000 Sentra 5 speed, I'd be shocked. My 83 d150 shortbed slant-6 manual might just outweigh it a smidge tho 😆. Only a smidge, it's a base baaaase model. Even has manual steering! Man the suspension on that thing must be something else, good luck jacking it up! Can't wait for the new content man.
Agree 100%.
Wonderful that someone took all the brass caps off the pumps and even the brass tag on the body fender and sold for scrap.., desperate folks. Great job on the rescue!!
I know! But at least we got the dalmatian mack dog on No. 9!
That's why when you get any old vehicle, you change ALL rubber hoses and lines before you get them running. 90% of the time, they are ALL dry rotted. Glad to see you get that old boy running. God bless you all.
What a find. I love B series Macks. It is a shame it doesn’t have the Thermadyne ENDT673 straight 6 turbo diesel, BUT it does have one of the coolest gas motors ever made; those things put out over 900 lb ft of torque @ 1500rpms…that is incredible for a gas motor.
Loved the vid bro, keepem coming. I'm a sucker for old trucks.
Aren't we all!
Guys! Just found this an boy quickly subbed. I was stuck to my seat all the way!!! What a beast. You and the team are proper magic workers. Love it. Take care from Brian D. In 🇬🇧 and god bless. 👍
Well done men. That engine will get feet to the gallon😂😂😂❤
Seriously though! Shes a gas hog for sure!
This is another example of how proper care and regular maintenance of machinery extends the life of the machine. It also goes to show how much more reliable and durable oldschool machinery are compared to modern electronic controlled recycled beer cans made today.
I owned a lot of mack trucks back in the late fifties and sixties. Holl Scott engines in some and they got three quarters of a mile to the gallon of fuel unless you were working them and then it dropped to a half mile to the gallon. They were flat beds or dump trucks, then I owned close to thirty macks that were long loggers, all were of the diesel variety. Slow but steady, never ever passed another truck unless it was parked. Later on went to the 350 cummins engines that were stepped on real hard, converted to spicer transmissions as those duplex transmissions were problematics and one truck did get a big cam four hundred in it. It would do the sixty easy, my driver got a ticket for doing thirty plus in a sixty mile speed limit... I challenged it in court to get it reduced to fifteen plus so we took it out and did a speed check. I was floored to see it do ninety four miles an hour! I did power steering on every one of them with Ross boxes. The final results were those rigs wound up having a mack cabin and everything else modern as the "Break your back" mack was real
tell me about it, when warming it up 5 gallons of gas per hour...
That is awesome! Thanks for sharing, really cool to hear old stories of these trucks. And thanks for watching!
I remember my great uncle driving an old mack laundry service truck and it seems like he said the same thing about fuel mileage. I remember being at the gas station in that thing standing on the seat. I was a little fella but I remember them talking about the old truck.
I have heard these Hall Scott engines were noted for their smoothness and good power delivery. They were considered to be a premium engine. Even it it’s current state, it’s a beautifully crafted engine and just look like something you would find in a very high end luxury performance car.
As far as I know, the first domestic production use of an alternator in a car was the 1960 Valiant. (In 1960, Valiant was not a Plymouth! It was intended to be its own standalone premium compact car line. It became a Plymouth in 1961.)
That is the coolest looking and sounding fire truck
WOW What a find!!!! And it sounded fantastic. Great first video and Editing was very well done. Cant wait to see more more more.
Thank you! We're new to this so that means a lot!
We have a vintage fire engine in our fire department that has the same Hall-Scott motor. The old guys love to shut the ignition off for a few seconds, turn it back on to produce a loud “BOOM” from the unburned fuel in the exhaust.
You Guys Did a great job. I helped work with an Old one (LATE 30'S) with a Blower on it. Working for MACK Truck Milw. Wisconsin
That sweet fire rig is a piece of history worth saving
This is awesome. One of the best Hall Scott engine videos on UA-cam. Learned to drive truck in a 1958 Mack B73, very similar to that one...only it had a 220 Cummins.
Thank you! We got a couple more vids of it running and driving, you should check them out =D
Dang dood, so cool you’re saving these gorgeous machines!!!
You gotta love old rigs that have been well maintained
I got to drive a similar vintage open cab, modified for tours, Mack fire truck and there was no room behind the steering wheel for a belly. Those guys back then were fit lean fellers. The captain may have had a gut but he had his own vehicle or was chauffeured to and fro, no doubt. All manual steering and double clutch operation took a while to master.
Your vidio's are the best. Love those old B-9 Mack's there so cool looking. Can't wait to see the next one!
Beautiful machine. If you can restore it to its former glory, that'd be the way to go.
I have a 57 b733. One of about 600 for the year. Hasn't been ran in about 5 years and hasn't moved under its own power for 7 to 10 years. I have limited diesel mechanical skill/knowledge. Western Washington. Thanks for this vid.
What a fabulous beautiful old fire truck, sounds like a beast, just love it and to have 2 of them is incredible 👍
I just love the B model Macks
I've always had a dream to turn one into a hard core pick up
Thank you for sharing this.
Runs so smooth.
Dude please don’t tease us. We need all the vids about these old girls 😂😂😂 Hall Scott engines were the top shelf power plant of there day awesome! I would love to see how much power and torque they could make with modern technology
there is rumors of one with fuel injection and a turbo! but seems like no ones actually seen it haha
Thank you so much for the history lesson!! I wish you all the luck in the world!!
Hall-Scott engines were built in Oakland, California. The one in that fire truck is among the last ever built.
Berkeley, CA is where the factory was, until they were bought by Hercules and it was moved out of state.
Yup! Hercules bought them not long after this truck was made. Thanks for watching!
@@Edward-Thaine I am a Hall-Scott historian. Myself and a few others who are interested in the companies history and where their engines ended up have been compiling a list of as many engine serial numbers as we can find, and connecting them with OEM chassis serial numbers. In November, we hit 10000 engine serials attributed to chassis serials! The six Seattle B21 engines are in the list, but I don't have any of the other B21's yet. Hoping to make a trip to the Mack Museum for those numbers. Let me know if you'd like to see our info, I can email it.
We would love any of the information you have on these trucks! shoot me an email
@@Edward-Thaine will do, what's your email?
That truck is cleaner than half the cars on the road today
Thanks you for rescued the Mack .
This is the first time I am seeing your channel, and I quickly subscribed. Regardless how much you paid for this beauty, it wasn't enough. You're going to have a lifetime full of fun with this truck, and you simply cannot put a price tag on that. GREAT FIND!!!!!!!!!! And then there was the surprise at the end of the video. Only 9 of these were built, and you have TWO of them???? DAM!!!!! Call me jealous. I was kinda hoping to hear the siren.
Unfortunately the sirens were taken out, but we did get the air horn working and it is LOUD! haha Thanks for watching!
@@Edward-Thaine Hopefully the sirens that were used on these trucks, were not one-off, and exclusive to these trucks. Hopefully you'll be able to find period correct sirens to complete them.
When I went to fire school 40 years ago that’s the same kind of truck we trained on . Catching plugs and laying lines
Great to See these old 1950,s Macks running again can’t wait to see them restored to former Beauty .. their Rarity denotes the Need for Restoration.. I here in England have a 1956 Bedford RL 6Cylinder Gas Engined Ex Military 4x4 Radio comm Truck ..
Found this on my 'Recommended' feed. 👍 Enjoyed watching it and the follow up video. Praise to you for not playing a role for the camera,rather just being yourself. Definitely interested in subscribing if you ever upload any more videos.
Thank you! You should definitely sub! We got lots more videos coming 😁
Great Vid. It’s going to be really interesting watching you guys bring them back to life. 👍👍✌️
Loved the vid bro.... keepem coming thanks
Things were made to last back then and fire trucks are so well maintained while in service that they can sit for decades and be brought back.
That was a lot of fun to watch, thanks guys
It's a very very good machine 👍🏼 👍🏼💪🏼👌🏼...
Thank you very much for the partage 👍🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼...
St Paul MN had a 1958 diamond T,with a 300 hp Hall Scott engine,the fastest trk in fire dept 1958-1973.... Would come over the Rice st bridge all 4 wheels of the ground for 2-4 seconds,taking up center lane at 60+ mph,in my 75 yrs that heavy rescue squad #1 was the fastest apparatus in town👍👍💣💣
Haha thats incredible!
What an awesome beast! Brilliant, & to have 2! Isn't that a bit greedy? Why can't modern stuff be as nicely designed as old stuff? Thanks for sharing, greetings from the UK!
Greetings! These old machines are definitely designed very well and proven to stand the test of time. Thanks for watching!
Given the opportunity and finances, I would JUMP on this project whole-heartedly.
b models are incredible have seen a B95 , B125 Fire truck and a good amount of the commercial regular cab trucks like the B80 series , B70 Series ,B60 series etc. The B71 is my favorite model it has the same extended nose but with the cummins diesel engine
I've never seen a Hall Scott truck engine in person. I do know they were an impressive break through in gasoline engine technology for the time. That type of horse power and torque out of a gas engine at probably half the cost of a diesel at the time, but, burn lots of gas! I understand why a fire department would get a gas like this, limited use as they get. Very interesting video.
This engine is very impressive in person! These Hall Scott engines were out performing the diesel engines at the time putting up big power. They guzzle the gas tho lol couple gallons just to get it warmed up! Thanks for watching!
It runs so smoothly for such big slugs rotating you would think it would be shaking it's nuts lose 😁 what a monster engine ❤
Man!!! That’s a smooth running engine right there!!!!
You are so lucky to find such a great truck in such great shape, I hope you can get it!!!!!!
I instantly skipped a heart beat once you poped the hood on her.,I instantly remember edreading about Seattle Fd having these built because they could pump for a long time with little pressure fluctuations. Would be super cool to get her restored and see that pump pumping again.
That is super cool. Love the video
Great video ! What a piece of history. I hope you're planning on restoring it.
For right now we just want to get them road worthy, we will see where we go from there! Thanks for watching
@@Edward-Thaine здравствуйте.отличное видео.мне не понятно что за двигатель -и не карбюратор и не дизель?
Cool old truck! Nice work fellas!
That is a beautiful piece of machinery.
This truck is so cool! I am so gutted that i never find anything like this in England.
The whole video was great, makes such a change to watch people that actually know what they are doing and do all the right things. I hate seeing people who spend more time pointing the camera at themselves, pulling stupid faces, and saying stupid things! You guys were great and i loved what you did here. All the best from me in England.
Hey Matt Damon! I like this new role.
Was amazed that old beast fired up with that cranking speed.....and then i thought, my 1942 International W6 tractor starts with one flick of the starting handle so why not👍
She runs pretty smooth too, great video, well done lads.
New subscriber from Bonnie Scotland🏴🇬🇧
Great video. Love to see old fire trucks from 'across the pond !'
That’s incredible! Great video!
Great job getting her running
That is so awesome man I felt it when that sucker cranked up man it got me excited
Very cool trucks more thanks ill be watching
Nicely done. Cool project
That is so awesome guys you got that thing running man that is too cool
Hey Hi from here in the D Michigan 😁 the motor city 😊 thanks for sharing and congrats on your progress & getting this old engine running 🎉😅❤
I love the trucks. Looking forward to seeing your next video
I drove a B-61 Mack Thermodyne diesel when I was 18 years old hauling steel out of the mills around Detroit, that 20 speed twin stick kept me pretty busy on the road.
She sounds beautiful. What a lovely old beast 😊😊😊😊😊.
I love all the stuff growing on it. Lol. I hope to hold on to my Plymouth Fury long enough for it to start growing stuff like that on it.....and having someone in the future stumble on it for a 'will it run' video. It only recently stopped running, so i guess i got 20 or 30 years to go. Lol
Loved the video bro awesome 👏
What a nice old truck!
Love this stuff. Just drooling 🤤🤤
I've always had a soft spot for the Mack B cab and hood. When restored they really look beautiful. The one you found was likely maintained by the city for parades and festivals so it probably has been gone through with little mileage. The thirty years of sitting in a rainforest hasn't been good for it but the truck is solid and the previous owner did SAVE it. I think you got a great vehicle if you can afford to refurbish, maintain, and put many many gallons of fuel in it! Might be better to get it running and driving and sell it to a museum.
that fire truck is so cool man love it.
Beautiful Machine, and Beautiful Engine ! 😀
Super double damn cool man. Awesome sauce!
Just subscribed. Your worth it. Thanks for the vids.
Thank you!
What an absolute gem❤
That is freaking awesome both of them are
sounds like a swiss watch good work
They run very smooth!
Awesome job guys👍👍
Pretty cool! Thanks for the link (I came over from NoNonsenseKnowHow's channel)...Interesting that the six of these all went to Seattle Fire; the one closest to where I used to live was Engine 38 (station was in the Ravenna/Bryant neighborhood)...I think Engine 22 (Roanoke) was also a Mack...
Awesome! Thank you for stoppin in and watching, NoNonsense has a great channel! If i remember right these 2 are engine 245 and 246
Oh please give the old fire horse a barn, she has ben out in the bad weather for a very long time she showed hear heart and she is still strong give her 💕
Subscribed, looking forward to more of yours!
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1091 cu is about 18Litres of wholesome goodness!
Awsum Job you guys !!! I wondered if the beast was last running on leaded fuel ? - maybe some upper cylinder lube may calm her chatter....or maybe that's a characteristic.....so looking forward to seeing her progress 😉😎
It last ran in 1992! So it probably did have leaded fuel in it. Thanks for watching!
Awesome job, on the very cool truck.
We had a volunteer fd with a Mack truck. Cool memories, nice video.
Wtf? I was just watching the vid & the sound cut out at certain points
otherwise. awesome channel👌
great job, sounds good
That thing is so cool man I hope you get it running
nice amazing job. suprised that those machines still run so smooth.. greetings from alkmaar holland