Microsoft Flight Simulator | Turtle Beach VelocityOne | Review
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- Опубліковано 16 лис 2021
- The Turtle Beach VelocityOne Flight System! Today, we have the opportunity to review this amazing flight control system for both Xbox One and PC! Let's check it out!
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This is the first peripheral that’s caught my interest in years. The big, loud and flashy gamer company does a yoke! Never thought I’d see the day.
I got a preorder unit, and it’s my first yoke system I’ve ever purchased. My initial thoughts are for the audience they were aiming for, the majority console users who currently had no yoke options, this is a huge improvement over using a controller. I agree, the top 4 throttle sliders need more tension and wish they could have added a knob on the side to control the amount of tension. I also found pulling up slightly on the yoke helped with any stickiness I received from inputs. The price, being $30 more than the original msrp earlier in the year may be just a tad high, but not far from where it should be. I used a 10% coupon so I only paid $365 total with tax and overall I’m very pleased with how different using the sim is with this in regards to the experience. I bought a cheap $5 folding table from five below that is perfect for this and use a standard office chair. When not using just fold the table away and the chair goes back to my desk. The annunciation panel from how they describe it is supposed to be functional but I have yet to figure out how to get it working. He is right about not comparing to the honeycomb systems, as first there is no co sole honeycomb yoke available as of yet, will probably be next year. The cost of the honeycomb console yoke is supposed to be $299, and then adding the bravo to that is another $279. Almost $600 for the same setup compared to less than $400 is a good difference. Yes the bravo has a dedicated flaps lever and gear lever which is nice, as well as tension adjustment on the throttles but does not have the GA sliders instead of the levers. I will enjoy my velocity one for now and maybe next year I will upgrade to the honeycomb once that is available. If you want the cheapest bang for your buck as far as features go that’s better than a controller, this is a great start to dip your toes into flight simulation on a console.
I received mine a couple of days ago and I must say that it is better than all of the sub 300 dollar yokes that I have owned in the past. It has been my experience that unless you are willing to spend more than 500 dollars for your controls this will be the best you can do. It is the right size, has enough buttons and axes controls plus that great trim wheel. I am sure that a couple of hundred flight hours will improve the feel.
I have just ordered this yesterday and I’m quite excited to receive it. It is surprising that TB didn’t choose the same internal mechanism for the throttles that they selected for the trim wheel. As far as the stickiness with the yolk, TB has said that that will be significantly reduced or eliminated with some use.
I have just ordered one of these for 3 main reasons. I fly Cessna 172 and am at present using a Logitech flight yoke system, the major problem with this is that the Logitech yoke only rotates 90deg but the velocity rotates a full 180deg. This means the Logitech yoke is twice as sensitive as real life and it is impossible to allow for this in the sensitivity settings. One point to the velocity. My personal preference is for a true to life experience therefore the vernier throttle controls are preferred by me. Second point to the velocity. The pitch wheel seems to have the sensitivity to give good control and anyone who has flown the 172 12months or more knows the sensitivity problems there, true Microsoft have improved it immensely but still a little course. Third point to the velocity. As a number of the contributors have said I believe the stickiness is a deliberate manufacturing feature to give the longest use before wear degrades the performance. Just remember you cant buy a rolls-royce for a volkswagen price and expect it to perform like a rolls-royce. Good review, you told it like it was Thanks mate
Supposedly, Turtle Beach reckon that the yoke will get smoother over time, as the PTFE bearing "wears in".
Just ordered one. Looking forward to getting it. I’ve seen there is a mod that can be ordered from Etsy that fixes the yoke detent and sticky issue on elevator for about 30 bucks so I’ll be getting that as well. That combined with a felt fix for upper throttle quadrant should make a big difference.
Thanks for this video, I had reasonably and realistic hopes for this but the plastic on plastic combined with the woeful throttle resistance is a killer, I can’t believe they didn’t put any design effort into this
I was confused at first as these cost nearly the same on amazon as the Honeycomb Alpha with throttle quadrant. $520 vs $560. On the Turtle beach website it is only $380 which is much closer to the pricepoint commented on in the video. Amazon buyers beware of the markup.
Amazon used to post items at MSRP and they just wouldn’t have anything in stock because the scalpers have already purchased everything available and sell it through other venues, now Amazon will post whatever the distributor wants to charge, and like magic they’re back in stock you just have to put up with the pirate prices.
I have to agree the prices of these are so different depending where you buy it and live. For me it was half the price of the honeycomb and about the same as the basic thrustmaster hotas one and pedal kit. So I was getting confused in some reviews as to why they were saying its so expensive.
Good to see some controller choices
If the sticky effect is plastic on metal or plastic on plastic, a thin smear of silicone grease might work, great review
That stickiness according to the manufacturer says this does get smoother after a couple of weeks use, and has been noted
Great Review, very detailed and informed. I got my Velocity one yesterday and would like to know one thing. Does yours have some play around where the shaft enters the yoke? not 100% unexpected at this pricepoint, but did catch me out a bit. Thanks!
one thing i would like to know, which is kind of important to many, does the yoke have a total 180 degree rotation? (90 deg per side)
I know you said it's not comparable to the Honeycomb products, however if the end user is looking at replicating the Cessna 152/182 platform it would seem having the push pull engine controls that more closely emulate the real-world aircraft would be of value. Other controls such as landing gear and flaps could be bound to the throttles on top. I would be interested in a comparison of controls that can be placed on the switches/buttons.
Thanks for this really helpful review. You helped me make my decision to wait for the Honeycomb peripherals for Xbox. As someone who owns a Cessna 172, I want an experience that is as true to flying the real thing as possible. I was really excited for this yoke, but lack of smoothness in the yoke would never work for me.
Great video! I was wondering how you were displaying the tablet inside the cockpit?? Thanks!
Thanks for this video. Do you have any experience with the Thrustmaster Boeing Yoke?
If your pitch is set and the speed is on the number with or without flaps, the plane lifts without pulling back on the Yoke? I rarely pull up?
Re: rudder triggers. The best system I've used was on the Saitek X36, it had a large rocker switch on the throttle so you could control the rudder with just two fingers and without taking your ahnd off the throttle. To use that system on the Velocity One would prbably mean increasing the width of the left hand arm of the yoke which would spoil the asthetics.
Disapointed to hear there are pre-bound button/switches, i assume that means you can't reprogram them?
Anyone knows if you can pump up the volume of the output? It's low.
Unfortunately I tried to order during launch 30 minutes in and they were out of stock. Best Buy had 7 in stock and I ordered one from them. They cancelled because Turtle Beach couldn't provide them either. So I upgraded and went for the HoneyComb Alpha and Bravo. Lowest price I could find for each was $279.
far better ,good choice
Saw on another post that suggested using cut down furniture pads stuck to each of the 4 levers. I tried this and it worked great to give just the right friction.
Are You referring to the pads that go on the bottom of the feet of your furniture so you can slide them around easier? and where do you Apply them to on the levers
@@Inpreesme I bought a roll of 6mm adhesive backed felt. You can cut it into 4 approx. 30 mm lengths and stick them to the bottom of the Quadrant levers where they go into the unit. They provide just the right amount of resistance and have worked perfectly for me.
Hi, have just ordered the above to replace my Logitech Pro(Cessna) yoke & throttle quadrant which I have found difficult to work with. Which aircraft are you flying? I assume a Cessna 172 but wondered which variant. Thanks
Thanks for your vid OK, could I please ask, have you used it in VR yet?
Is anyone having issues when the velocity is hooked up with the heading, altitude etc just spinning and spinning and they can’t be set?
What is everyone’s option on the Thrustmaster Boeing edition?
How big is the mounting system? I have a thick ass table.
how did you start the engine?
Would you recommend this over the Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Pack and why?
Do you have to stop for fuel ⛽️ ?
Every review I've read about the Turtle Beach Velocity One all have the same complaint about the loose throttle levers. One would thing that TB would be addressing this universal complaint. I'd prefer the Honeycomb Alpha/Bravo units, but now they are selling above the retail price of $560 US in many markets. Has anyone heard if the panel lights will ever be used, or will they just be useless decorations? Some reviewers have speculated a firmware update to utilize them, but I've heard nothing definite.
I little heads up on Prop/rpm and throttle/manifold pressure management. Avoid MP being higher than RPM except during takeoff. During cruise the MP and RPM will be the same number, 25 MP and 2500 RPM unless you want to use a lower power setting. Reduce throttle/MP before reducing prop/rpm and increase rpm/prop before increasing throttle/MP. Keep up the good work. A friend in Scottsdale, AZ.
can you use a ghub app on pc
I'm waiting for a comparison between the Velocity One and the Boeing Thrustmaster. I was always holding out for new force feedback, but it doesn't look like that will ever return.
Thats where I have been. I haven't had force feedback since my old ms sidewinder stick. Been waiting for years but the only ones out there are way off my price point.
This vs Boeing thrustmaster ?
The sim yoke not matching IRL yoke is just an issue with the sim. Some third party aircraft, such as the DC6 I believe, do match 1:1 without adjusting any sensitivity etc.
Hey Mike
I run the same rudder pedals as you, my question is, do you have to use the rudder on the yoke or can you map to your pedals
I'd imagine you can keep your current rudder config
Yeah the stickiness is my only gripe, I may try the smallest amount of light oil on the shaft.
Did that help? The tiny bit of oil? How did it turn out for you? Thanks
Are you still using this yoke today? Or are you using something different?
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What games is this controller compatible with on Xbox I have a XboxOne btw 1TB
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Great review. As a PC user I like the compact unit as I share my work desk with flight simulator. How does it compare to the Logitech Flight yoke? which is pretty plasticky too
It is much better than Logitech. You'll definitely feel that the Logitech is too old and completely obsolete tech in comparison. Bear in mind also that the yoke is rotating 90⁰ each side wich makes a World of difference too. My friend who has this yoke used to have a Logitech so I could compare.
Since I myself use a honeycomb Alpha, don't expect it to fair that well against it though, as could be expected. You have that professionnal feel in every aspects that you don't have with the Velocity One. Then again, not the same price tag for a full honeycomb set...
The 4 top throttles on the V One are really piss poor if you pardon my french. The trim wheel is great though. The rudder triggers although obviously lacking in precision are a well thought out addition I have to say. Don't expect them to be able to be enough to do precise and well coordinated turns of course.
As a PC user, one could seriously consider buying an alpha one to get one of the finest yoke there is (it is a fantastic product for its price tag! Still a world appart from this) and complement it with a cheap logitech throttle quadrant that will still do the job much better than those 4 top crappy throttles. You'll rarely benefit a lot from having a fourth throttle, the cessna type throttle is a nice bonus but it's a doublon, you don't need two sets of throttles. You'd lose the trim wheel though, but with the price difference buy one of Logitech Autopilot panel: it has a decent enough trimwheel and controlling the Autopilot with it is super handy!
What airport is this?
I am confused do I NEED separate rudder pedals or is there something on the yoke?
There are pressure sensitive rudder triggers on each of the yoke handles if you don't have pedals. And when both left and right are simultaneously pressed, they are manual brakes.
You may also reduce the stickiness by a little vegetable oil that won't eat the plastic
Interesting that the trim wheel doesn't plastic on plastic grab?
Smooth as butter
Looks like quite a good entry level yoke. I'd consider it if my flight sim setup didn't have to be portable.
I think this would even suit that more. It's very light
@@OverkillSimulations I work away from home so I live out of a wheeled duffle bag for 9 days of a fortnight so it would have to be super portable. I fly with the tca side stick. Fits in my bag nicely
@@OverkillSimulations great review too btw. Really enjoy the open, honest, and raw nature of your videos
You sure you are using the correct wording for the triggers on the yoke, don’t you mean analog, not pressure sensitive? Pressure sensitive usually means something solid state that doesn’t move but senses the amount of force being pushed on it.
No lol .. but hopefully you understood what I meant lol.. oops
@@OverkillSimulations yes, I mean I’ve used an Xbox controller and other joypads before so ya know. 😋 But that did give me a slightly confused “eh what?” face for a moment there. Something like 🥴+🤔 perhaps. 😁
Turtle Beach needs to address the following issues with a firmware update:
1. Rudder pedals (specifically the toe brakes) are not found almost every time the system is shut down and up again.
2. Random and sudden faulty elevator axis wheel input to + - 100% which causes uncontrolled crashes.
And these mechanical issues:
1. Sticky yoke
2. Throttles that are too loose
Get it together Turtle Beach and stop selling crap!
can someone that uses this in PC share the working mapping file... C:\Users\(name)\AppData.... inputprofile_(xxxx...numbers) is a xml file... thanks in advance
I had to return my Thrustmaster HOTAS because the throttle lever was so slack it flopped forward and back and should never have passed quality check!
Yeah agreed, it's ridiculously loose. Can't believe they never thought that would be a problem. One tiny nudge or tilting the stick slightly is enough to make the throttle slide all the way back or forwards. Muppets.
Thanks for this comment. That controller was an option I was considering but the throttle moving is a non-starter.
Quality checks do not work well with maximum profits, I don’t expect it now and I really don’t expect any change in the future. they push out beta crap as long as they all do it where is the customer supposed to go thinking that they’ll find a manufacture that is more sensitive to the quality aspect. Those days are over boys and girls
I’m glad to see any kind of new flightsim hardware but I believe this product is flawed in an unusual way. I think that it is on the low end (quality) for PC use and most Xbox users sit in front of their televisions so they won’t have a desk to mount it on. What little you showed of the product and your comments it sounds like it’s mediocre. I also noticed your ground taxiing. The rudder levers must be analog buttons? I never noticed in your “review” you showing the rudder levers.
Just too add that’s created for Xbox, if you where using a Xbox you would press X for the break. They thought it out.
I thought so as well, but that's not the case. X is bound to something else completely when in the single prop setting
Why you didn't film that in action while using the simulator? So that's useless...
Agreed. You showed the product for a little over 5 minutes then started flying. The I’m doing this and doing that was pointless. You made a video but forgot that “a picture is worth a thousand words”.
Man… I’ve tried to order this twice and missed out…
Update. Got mine today. Really really nice piece of kit. My 2 gripes are the hat switches are really twitchy, wish they were more fluid and pitch is really sticky indeed
Back in stock!
@@joshuacatron2 Yup mine came yesterday
Silicone spray
I am very disappointed with mine and it is going back for a refund. The control panels are always lit up regardless of operational status. There’s absolutely no force feedback (or a simple vibration) from any of the controls, tension is practically none existent on the 4 white throttle levers and very weak in the 3 push - pull controls. It is not wireless so a cable will go from the unit to the xbox and, if you have your box in the lounge, use the coffee table as a stand and, have a dog (like I do), chances are the cable will be unplugged if the animal goes across it. At this price point I find the Velocity One to be in Beta state and, no where near what it should be. The instrument panel may come good with updates but, the tension and feedback can’t be fixed.
All in, I can’t recommend the Velocity one. Maybe in a few months time when a revised version comes out.
wise decision
No yokes have force feedback. Unless you spend thousands on a professional simulator yoke
Oh you want force feedback or vibration? You must be new to yokes
manufacturers love to push out beta versions of whatever they make so the customer has to figure it out for them, then they make incremental changes to make it look like they’re trying to make a better product for their valued customer. I’m going to wait for V2. maybe with enough reviews reflecting our feelings on what they’re turning out will cause him to make the adjustments that they should’ve done before initial Launch.
Mine is going back. My right hand buttons crapped out, no right hand brake and no right rudder, had it fixed, not long had it back same issue, it's crap, so going to demand a refund, not want this crap.
This thing costs 379! I got my Honeycomb bravo for 279!
Yes but this is throttle AND yoke..
@@OverkillSimulations yes thats true 😅😅
No offence but I stopped watching at the throttles 🙄
other reviews say its cheaply buyilt,m creaks and is genrally NOT good quality, this is a paid review, so he has to be good towards it, being decietful
I have been looking at the very few reviews that there are and none of them say this, so I don’t know where you get that from. I actually have the velocity one and what you say is untrue.
All the supposed non professional reviewer‘s of any product on UA-cam are beholding to their masters,whether hoping for free products or if they do the reviews with products sent to them to do a review on. No one is gonna last long in a UA-cam Patreon racket if they downplay any of the Products they posed as non-partisan totally unbiased reviews. The reviewer’s that purchase the product with their own money and give honest sincere reviews usually don’t last very long because they have to have a real job to pay for the items that they are reviewing.