I have no idea what kind of parents these thugs have. In today’s world, a child could be taught well but choose to follow peers. There are many that grow up in horrible situations but choose to change their circumstances for the better. These thugs had mob mentality. It’s extremely disgusting. I feel for the parents of all involved. My heart breaks especially for Preston’s family.
Apparently some of them hiding their child shielding their child. Or they themselves major abusers and want to keep they F8ck buddy children at home for their own brand of violence. KARMA is real you can only avoid for so long
I imagine they don’t come from a household where the parents are present. Most of the violent kids I knew growing up had abusive parents. Not making accusations…but I think there’s a good chance this is learned behavior
Great podcast and information given. Sadly it took Preston’s Life to bring light all these teens past violence. There needs to be accountability. Justice for Preston 🧡
@truecrimearizona I want to throw a comment out there about Gilbert police 👮 officers. I’ve been job interviewing and several relocation areas have been on the table. As a family with middle school aged kids and as a citizen, I’m going to mention another ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM!! What police department investigated a call where a man shot his brother-in-law in SELF DEFENSE??? Can anyone remind me or help me remember? Not ONE BIT of that BS story made sense from the beginning especially when a wife comes home giggling, not ONE BIT CONCERNED that her FOURTH HUSBAND WAS LYING DEAD IN THE FLOOR OF A HOME HE RENTED FOR HER!!! In fact when she pulled up, she was flipping hair and giggling “hello neighbors!” It took THE WHOLE DAMN WORLD coming down on that PD before they investigated, so HELL NO I WOULD NOT CONSIDER LIVING THERE!!
I love Gilbert. It is a beautiful, safe community. This entire nightmare shook the community. Nothing like this has ever happened here. The community is full of wonderful, law-abiding citizens. We will not put up with criminal behavior and we will demand for action. Please do not move here though. Gilbert has grown way too much since Covid. We have enough Californians that have moved here and started changing our family-oriented community.
Cops are more concerned with easy targets like people filming them doing their jobs, rather than pursuing any real justice. Arresting people under bogus charges like interfering and obstructing, only to have those charges later dropped after people retain lawyers and other expense. There's no transparency or accountability.
@@kjl6039 yeah and guess that entire comment “FLEW” right over your head. Gilbert may be what you believe it to be in your little “bubble” and by no means was this directed at you because quite honestly, you are irrelevant to the comment. HOWEVER, I wonder how different your response would be if you were the family of Charles Vallow? JJ Vallow or TYLEE Ryan? In the eyes of many, Gilbert dropped the ball throughout the initial investigation and in the death investigation of Preston Lord, so my family respectfully would decline to be a part of that community where common sense (thinking outside the box at obvious signs, good old fashioned police work, etc.) isn’t a requirement of the Gilbert PD. No need to respond, this wasn’t about you or to you.
God Bless Preston and his Parents.Preston was a wonderful person ,Good Samaritan,you can see it in his eyes.All people need to be charged and do some time,they were EVIL to say the least.There was no reason to kill this nice young man.Not at all.There is no words that can console his family and friends.These people must face the music.Young people like these are definitely in need of mental health.Preston I hope you rest easy .So so sorry this happened in the hands of these monsters . ❤
“Gilbert Goons” sound like a bunch of kids without fathers in the home who were upset that their moms made them waffles instead of Mickey Mouse pancakes in the morning.
Not necessarily. One of the fathers and a brother appear to have lengthy rap sheets as well. Just because a father is present, doesn't mean the kids turn out well. And, just because there is no father present doesn't mean that child will be trouble!
Please report on the Mercades Vega murder. Police are lagging and the family needs answers. They're planning a walk for the 1 year anniversary of her murder
If there isn't any leads, than there isn't any leads. Her family expects PD to what, wave a wand and make evidence appear? Or maybe they should fabricate it? ........ or maybe, just maybe mercedes family should let the police do their thing.
Kinda reminds me of the Devil Dogs. Almost the same exact situations playing out…my best friend and I were involved in a fight with them back in the late 90s. Make me wonder if there is somebody pulling the strings and something bigger is going on. Kinda like….a gigantic ecstasy ring or illegal pills. The whole thing is just too familiar and it’s mind blowing this is happening again 25 years later.
This poor baby only 16 years old, rest in peace with our Heavenly Father. I pray for peace for the parents loved ones and friends of Preston’s. 🙏🙏. I just heard about this and I’m heartbroken. 🙏. God needs to be put back in our schools for young children to learn about our Heavenly Father. Evil is rampant. IMO 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
No, restraining someone is unlawful imprisonment.. kidnapping in Arizona is if you make someone mover so much as 1 inch in a direction they don't want to go
Question regarding the Gilbert PD - has anyone checked the entire police departments bank accounts to see if someone was being paid off? Seriously, resource officers are usually in the schools- they had to have heard the roomers. We watch your show from northern Utah - very impressed with the investigative reporting. Where is ground zero? Meaning what is the first known incident and who was involved? How did this group evolve?
You know what only recently did I find out that this wasn’t just a Black young man. All the media I saw portrayed an image of a big Afro teenager. How come that is, when predominately it was other teenagers that were not Black
I would like to know why you don't cover anything in other places in this state. All I see and hear in your news videos are stories about cases that occur in the Phoenix area, which means the rest of the state doesn't exist to any of you people. You should change the name of your podcasts from AZFamily to PhoenixFamily because the rest of us don't matter to you at all.
How is that Hillary Clinton it takes a Village thing going? Two things about your “community” first you live in a city. You do not live on a commune. Second, it is your “community members” that did this to Preston.
🤥 ~ The prosecutor is a liar, according to Preston‘s parents. The investigation was at least somewhat botched. So it is ironic that this woman comes out and slams the New York City Manhattan prosecutor in a political press conference when the murder rate in her county is actually much worse than New York City Manhattan. And I agree with some of the things she said about the prosecutor, but she said it as a political smoke and mirrors not because it was true. Because if it was true she would be criticizing herself. And I know we all like to criticize some of these so-called “progressive“ prosecutors, but I live in a Republican city/county/state and I have known for over 15 years that the murder rate in my city is much higher than New York City. I didn’t believe it when I first heard it it was amazing to me based on what I’ve always seen on television. But just because something doesn’t seem true doesn’t mean it isn’t true. I know society cares less and less about honesty and accuracy, but I still do.
Too Much Money Here. The Poorest Of the Bunch Will be the Scapegoat.
My question is: “ Where the hell were the parents of these thugs to begin with?” what killed Preston, these teenage hoodlums or bad parenting…..?? 😡
I have no idea what kind of parents these thugs have. In today’s world, a child could be taught well but choose to follow peers. There are many that grow up in horrible situations but choose to change their circumstances for the better. These thugs had mob mentality. It’s extremely disgusting. I feel for the parents of all involved. My heart breaks especially for Preston’s family.
Apparently some of them hiding their child shielding their child. Or they themselves major abusers and want to keep they F8ck buddy children at home for their own brand of violence. KARMA is real you can only avoid for so long
What do you expect with parents like Becky & Travis Renner? The Meisners are real POS too
Their parents are probably involved too. They should put their parents in jail too....
I imagine they don’t come from a household where the parents are present. Most of the violent kids I knew growing up had abusive parents. Not making accusations…but I think there’s a good chance this is learned behavior
This is so Comprehensive & Thorough. Good Job Investigating. 💯
Great podcast and information given. Sadly it took Preston’s Life to bring light all these teens past violence. There needs to be accountability. Justice for Preston 🧡
Great coverage! This story is so damn sad 😢
@truecrimearizona
I want to throw a comment out there about Gilbert police 👮 officers. I’ve been job interviewing and several relocation areas have been on the table. As a family with middle school aged kids and as a citizen, I’m going to mention another ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM!! What police department investigated a call where a man shot his brother-in-law in SELF DEFENSE??? Can anyone remind me or help me remember? Not ONE BIT of that BS story made sense from the beginning especially when a wife comes home giggling, not ONE BIT CONCERNED that her FOURTH HUSBAND WAS LYING DEAD IN THE FLOOR OF A HOME HE RENTED FOR HER!!! In fact when she pulled up, she was flipping hair and giggling “hello neighbors!” It took THE WHOLE DAMN WORLD coming down on that PD before they investigated, so HELL NO I WOULD NOT CONSIDER LIVING THERE!!
I love Gilbert. It is a beautiful, safe community. This entire nightmare shook the community. Nothing like this has ever happened here. The community is full of wonderful, law-abiding citizens. We will not put up with criminal behavior and we will demand for action. Please do not move here though. Gilbert has grown way too much since Covid. We have enough Californians that have moved here and started changing our family-oriented community.
RIP Tylee Ryan, JJ Vallow and Charles Vallow and Tammy Daybell 💔
@@kjl6039 looks like these defendants are mostly raised in AZ. Don’t worry I wouldn’t move there if you paid me I love California!!
Cops are more concerned with easy targets like people filming them doing their jobs, rather than pursuing any real justice. Arresting people under bogus charges like interfering and obstructing, only to have those charges later dropped after people retain lawyers and other expense. There's no transparency or accountability.
@@kjl6039 yeah and guess that entire comment “FLEW” right over your head. Gilbert may be what you believe it to be in your little “bubble” and by no means was this directed at you because quite honestly, you are irrelevant to the comment.
HOWEVER, I wonder how different your response would be if you were the family of Charles Vallow? JJ Vallow or TYLEE Ryan? In the eyes of many, Gilbert dropped the ball throughout the initial investigation and in the death investigation of Preston Lord, so my family respectfully would decline to be a part of that community where common sense (thinking outside the box at obvious signs, good old fashioned police work, etc.) isn’t a requirement of the Gilbert PD. No need to respond, this wasn’t about you or to you.
So heartbreaking!
God Bless Preston and his Parents.Preston was a wonderful person ,Good Samaritan,you can see it in his eyes.All people need to be charged and do some time,they were EVIL to say the least.There was no reason to kill this nice young man.Not at all.There is no words that can console his family and friends.These people must face the music.Young people like these are definitely in need of mental health.Preston I hope you rest easy .So so sorry this happened in the hands of these monsters . ❤
This case reminded me of a case in Buenos Aires when a group of Rugby players beat another guy to death as well. They were charged with murder.
“Gilbert Goons” sound like a bunch of kids without fathers in the home who were upset that their moms made them waffles instead of Mickey Mouse pancakes in the morning.
Not necessarily. One of the fathers and a brother appear to have lengthy rap sheets as well. Just because a father is present, doesn't mean the kids turn out well. And, just because there is no father present doesn't mean that child will be trouble!
Wil there be any charges for the family that actually hosted the party?
Please report on the Mercades Vega murder. Police are lagging and the family needs answers. They're planning a walk for the 1 year anniversary of her murder
If there isn't any leads, than there isn't any leads. Her family expects PD to what, wave a wand and make evidence appear? Or maybe they should fabricate it? ........ or maybe, just maybe mercedes family should let the police do their thing.
@@X56th_SFS nah, just doing their job would be helpful. 🤡
@@X56th_SFStf is your problem??!
Never heard of this case which supports your comment! TY for sharing!
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I see the channel did coverage 4 months ago😊
They are all headed to prison for decades. Screwed up their lives forever
Kinda reminds me of the Devil Dogs. Almost the same exact situations playing out…my best friend and I were involved in a fight with them back in the late 90s. Make me wonder if there is somebody pulling the strings and something bigger is going on. Kinda like….a gigantic ecstasy ring or illegal pills. The whole thing is just too familiar and it’s mind blowing this is happening again 25 years later.
This poor baby only 16 years old, rest in peace with our Heavenly Father. I pray for peace for the parents loved ones and friends of Preston’s. 🙏🙏. I just heard about this and I’m heartbroken. 🙏. God needs to be put back in our schools for young children to learn about our Heavenly Father. Evil is rampant. IMO 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
Wht a cowardly behaviour(he was obviously outnumbered*!!!!
No, restraining someone is unlawful imprisonment.. kidnapping in Arizona is if you make someone mover so much as 1 inch in a direction they don't want to go
r/GilbertAccountability
52:20 scope of Phx PD DOJ investigation not broad enough evidently
Parents need to be charged
Also, that proves the point that all the people who live in the Phoenix area think they're so much better than the rest of the state.
Question regarding the Gilbert PD - has anyone checked the entire police departments bank accounts to see if someone was being paid off? Seriously, resource officers are usually in the schools- they had to have heard the roomers.
We watch your show from northern Utah - very impressed with the investigative reporting.
Where is ground zero? Meaning what is the first known incident and who was involved? How did this group evolve?
So much city corruption
I believe some of these parents could have “foreseen” this… the foreseeability rule (should there be one) could apply?
The parents need to be charged like the crumblies!!!!!!! And the brats need to be charged as adults
Just because the Renner family is horrible don’t take it out on the rest of them.
I'm not allowed to make a comment, lest someone maybe offended.
The Gilbert police chief was making excuses for why they have not taken action against these kids. Shame on him. Shame on Gilbert police
You know what only recently did I find out that this wasn’t just a Black young man. All the media
I saw portrayed an image of a big Afro teenager. How come that is, when predominately it was other teenagers that were not Black
Jeez I'm old. I can't believe her kids already in H.S. I remember when she was on air preggos lol. Time Flys.....
🐕💚🍕 no arrests made in the murder of little Cal suspects ninja bill and sicki are still at large
If your going to show their pictures forget your stories 😮
Interesting since them crime is still up 100% with video footage in Gilbert of vandalism and other such events.
Why you call wild animals teens?😢
I feel like the name Talon (with whatever spelling) is just bad Feng shui. Some names just bring out the evil in someone.
I would like to know why you don't cover anything in other places in this state. All I see and hear in your news videos are stories about cases that occur in the Phoenix area, which means the rest of the state doesn't exist to any of you people. You should change the name of your podcasts from AZFamily to PhoenixFamily because the rest of us don't matter to you at all.
Sure makes me wonder how these kids are being raised - Do they NOT HAVE ANY PARENT PARTICIPATION?
How is that Hillary Clinton it takes a Village thing going? Two things about your “community” first you live in a city. You do not live on a commune. Second, it is your “community members” that did this to Preston.
Why do you continue to post your nonsensical comment on every news feed regarding this horrible event. You are delusional, get help ...
Why you call them peaple? Not m,f?😢
🤥 ~ The prosecutor is a liar, according to Preston‘s parents. The investigation was at least somewhat botched.
So it is ironic that this woman comes out and slams the New York City Manhattan prosecutor in a political press conference when the murder rate in her county is actually much worse than New York City Manhattan. And I agree with some of the things she said about the prosecutor, but she said it as a political smoke and mirrors not because it was true. Because if it was true she would be criticizing herself.
And I know we all like to criticize some of these so-called “progressive“ prosecutors, but I live in a Republican city/county/state and I have known for over 15 years that the murder rate in my city is much higher than New York City. I didn’t believe it when I first heard it it was amazing to me based on what I’ve always seen on television. But just because something doesn’t seem true doesn’t mean it isn’t true. I know society cares less and less about honesty and accuracy, but I still do.