We Were WRONG About This Boat! [Full In-Depth Tour] Learning the Lines
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- Опубліковано 14 лип 2020
- We're seriously considering the Seawind 1160 Lite for our next boat because of the long list of positives this catamaran has to offer. Here's just a few of the most important ones to us:
Size - We don't want a huge cat.
Seaworthiness - Plenty of Seawinds have circumnavigated.
Performance - The Seawind 1160 lite is designed to sail well first and foremost.
Livability - She's got a lot of accommodation and room for a 38' boat.
Price point - At a $310,000 base price for a new boat, the Seawind 1160 lite is the most affordable performance cruising catamaran in existence.
All of that combined with the fact that we can set one up with electric outboards, daggerboards, and lifting rudders means we think that the Seawind 1160 Lite might be the best boat possible for our budget and lifestyle.
What do you think?
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A perfect theme song, "I got it right and I've got it wrong, I learned my lesson by hanging on.." Words of wisdom. Great that you can come back and say you got it wrong and why. I can appreciate that.
Sailing Ruby Rose have bought the new Seawind 1370 (I think) 45foot version. They have been working with Seawind on the design. I really like this boat, the 1160. The fact it has 3 fridges 2 top load and 1 " bar" type fridge is really great but I would make at least one of the another freezer. I also love the owners side of the cat. The bedroom is in the right place and the fact you can get to both sides of the bed to make it is a big plus. The one minus I can see is all the electrical stuff under the seats in the "lounge" dinning area, taking up valuable storage spots, maybe they could be put someplace else. Great cat , thanks for the tour.
I absolutely love that the fridge is not sitting on the sole. I absolutely hate having to bend over to dig around in a mini-fridge. Makes so much more sense to put it where you can better view and utilize. Brilliant small touch. Nice boat.
Seawind is getting a big thumbs up from me! And getting great reviews. They’re on the list for Cats when we set sail in a few days years time. Well appointed, quality build without the massive price tag. What is there not to love. Thanks guys.
I'm glad you two got to reprise your review. BTW Brandy is looking radiant. I'm happy for both of you.
Love you guys. So happy to hear about your new addition. May the best of everything be yours. Smooth sailing. Peace;
You guys do a fantastic job of showing boats! I will be buying a boat in the next few years and I appreciate your channel. Congrats with your new addition. Keep up the good work. BTW I really like the large windows on this boat. Price is also good.
I'm looking forward to seeing you guys actually sailing a boat again. 😊👍👍👍👍
Awesome boat.. gorgeous views as well as Randy’s pregnancy glow is perfect! Great vid! 👌🏽😎
Thanks for keeping an open mind. The more I see, the more I'm really starting to like Seawinds as a current production cat. Very sensible and practical designs, decent performance, great visibility, etc. They're simple. but have really well thought out design and details.
Very cruising oriented, there's tons of storage even on the 1160.
The 1370 is going to sell very well. Being quite a bit larger, it has galley up, which I think makes a lot of sense as a social space with the salon as great room. On land, many people gather around food in the kitchen.
P.S. Seawind has an electric outboard option on the 1160.
Seawinds is coming up a lot these days!
Very happy you got away for a few days!
Thanks, great review. 😎👍🏻
You guys are fantastic in this review. Thanks, it’s nice for me to dream. 🙂
More and more impressed with SeaWind, every video I see. 8:57 - Excellent grill location, as well. Electric sail drives are an obvious and necessary upgrade.
Roger Wilco - Not at all. You still have solar, and regenerative capabilities, as well as a backup diesel gen set. The gen set is key. Fountain-Pajot has a configuration that allows 40+ knots (distance, of course) of electric motoring. It all depends on battery capacity.
@@RogerWilco1 I guess all those tall ships that sailed around the world in the early days must have had a lot of problems with passage making then.
It's a SAIL boat...
@@goulash75 They HAD a lot of problems and the ocean depths are filled with them.
Apparently electric is an option from Seawind! Way to go Seawind.
@@C_R_O_M________ Yup, lots of people went to sea and were just never heard from again. I'm currently reading Slocum... He may have sailed around the world without an engine, but he also got towed in and out of quite a few anchorages along the way. 😗 And then later disappeared at sea.
Hope you guys go for it, love the boat!
I will be looking forward to the video under sail. I have always thought this boat seemed to be well layered out, practical and it looks like it would be maintainable. Very under rated aspect for folks that want to sail rather than maintain a boat in paradise. I do like the idea of the electric outboards. Could you explore that possibility some.
Thanks for review and can wait for the sailing one. Please get some numbers (read speed, wind speed and angle). Don't feel too bad about your opinion change. I actually agree with your first impression as I had the same. Very small boat, galley down, low bridge deck, helm in the cockpit where you need to look through the bridge (saloon). It is a weird and unusual design. The more I learn about them, the more I appreciate their qualities. I learn that the visibility through the bridge is great because they use glass not plastic. Big opening window makes for great ventilation. High construction quality. Amazing use of the small space. The galley down offer a lot more counter space than any galley up in a 38 feet catamaran and has a nice view with a big opening window. Ok, it is on my list of potential buy now. it is still small with no large storage for bulky item like inflating paddle board or Kayak, diving tank and compressor. Compare to a Lagoon 380, it probably sail better but it is cramp. I would get the diesel version. Something, you need to motor for more then 24 hours.
Keep up the good work... i imagine after this, you will be doing more of these bare boat charters =)
Thanks for looking at the sea wind again they’re great boats.
love Seawinds. Practical, value for money & they sail well.. Hard to beat.
Awesome Boat 👍 and awesome that you got to use it 😎 your future child can watch this 20 years for now and say "Hey; I'm in the video too" LOL
Wow- I sure can relate! We were wrong about our initial impression of this fabulous vessel too! We had a last-minute opportunity to do a bareboat charter of it in Morten Bay (Queensland, Australia) for ten days, and this was the only vessel available at the time, so I signed up somewhat begrudgingly. It turned out to be a blast to sail and very functional too, even with a crew of four adults and three children. As a life-long sailor, and long-term live-aboard with a Yachtmasters, I had a lot of pre-conceived expectations that proved to be just prejudicial. Indeed it was crying out to be converted to electric outboards, although the petrol engines weren't as bad as expected, and lifting them out of the water often gave a bonus knot or so! The galley below was massive, and we did a lot of the prep work on the saloon table, and most of the cooking on the aft deck BBQ too. Here's an action video of the trip;
vimeo.com/316529361
However, just after that, I heard about the next version, the 1190 sport, and it looks even better again...
Great video, thanks for posting.
Thanks for your sharing. I've been secretly fawning over the 1160 lite.
Strange people say this boat is small as Project Atticus is a 30' monohull live aboard. I'm looking at a 32' Macwester myself, so a 38' catamaran seems enormous. Looks like a nice one: functional, tidy. All these things are a compromise, just had to match your requirements to work. Nice review and good luck with the little one 👍
Nice thanks for keeping it real.
Ruby Rose 2 is worth a look. They just picked a Seawind as their best pick. Though I think that for long term you'll find the bigger boats more suited to live aboard.
I like that the kitchen range had fiddles to hold pots in place while underway
I just bought a 1983 SeaWind 24 catamaran in very good condition. The delivery sail from Tampa bay to Okeechobee city was a great 3 days. It's apparent to me why this company is still in business.
These 1160 Lites are such great boats. You can tell a lot of thought has gone into them, from someone with experience with catamarans. Not much wasted space, good lines, but first and foremost a sailing vessel and not a floating apartment.
Wow. Never saw propane tanks mounted outside like that. A great idea. Though I hate the whole gas "thing". I just don't do anything other than a grill outside. Im retired from the Fire Department. There are just images of RV's and Boats explosions I can't get out of my head. I sleep better off without them on a boat. Great video you two and I like this boat more the second time around.
Ty for the video. I really like this one . The only question is where I can put the solar panels?
Love the Galley Down. Wish they offered a 1600 with a galley down! I’m not a fan of the gasoline, would prefer diesel and a generator but that’s just me. You missed highlighting the awesome opening salon windows forward!
👍 you do good reviews and tour videos. Hope you two can get back on the water in the future. We know you can live abroad with a baby and sail the world.
Great detailed review - as always! Jordan, any luck spear fishing with Soulianis? :) Been "shopping" for a cat for a while now and Seawind is definitely on the short list. That new 1370 looks amazing, but I'm sure out of my price range. Been a 1260 fan from the start, but the more I look at the 1160/1190 the more impressed I am by the overall design compromises. Many thanks to Bob for offering you the charter - can't wait until we see it in action!
Thanks! The 1260 is nice but personally I think the 1160 is a better value.
I missed the part about Soulianis... Let's just say we've fed them fresh seafood a few times now!
Congratulations on ur baby to come!! You 2 will be fine parents luv's! So this boat yes hearing u say u like the kitchen down made all the difference.... I still feel a lil lost when I see all that boat 2 seemingly small outboards... do u feel that's enough hp. for the job? Idk newbie hoping to get back on the water an stay there. But at moment on lock down stuck on the hard...so goal 1
I Love the Seawind Cats... just great looking boats. Love this boat! 👍
Good video. I notice the boat has both lower and upper stays. I have always felt it was a little precarious to use a single stay run aft on each side - the tricycle arrangement. One wire parts and you loose the rig. I encountered a couple aboard a dismasted catamaran in Quepos Costa Rica about 5 years ago. They lost their rig about 600 miles west of Galapagos. Fortunately, they had enough fuel aboard to limp back to Golfito, Costa Rica using one engine. They had the three-wire standing rigging and it showed the dangers inherent in it. Their insurance company covered the whole thing and brought down a rigging crew and loaded shipping container from Lauderdale to rerig the boat, but it all took a few months to arrange and complete. I will rig forestay, baby stay, two shrouds to each side, and probably a backstay or two on my Gemini.
Hi Jordan! Great video (but a little odd seeing it 3rd person)!! I just wanted to clarify a few things: the saloon unit is a refrigerator - we use it for beverages and snacks. The in-counter storage in the galley is the freezer. The breaker box in the port side settee is a primary DC breaker. The electronics forward/port side are AIS gear, and then an on-board computer and networking gear. It's also worth pointing out that the hot water is on-demand propane. Electric options can also be installed.
Thanks for the clarification Bob!
@@LearningtheLines When you said I'd let you know, I felt obligated :D
Nice review!!!
Thanks!
Nice review, love this boat! What about the Aventura 34? I thought this was the best priced cat on the market?
Well I wasn’t expecting that! First, to see a 38’ and a master set up like that. The recessed knobs and magnetic doors even for example, so much quality. I don’t usually like galley down either but it was great here especially with it being somewhat open to the salon. I agree, they did a great job for a boat this size. Secondly, this is my first time seeing one of your videos! Are you always so thorough on a tour?!?🥰 loved how you went back through it again at the end to project the flow better. Awesome! I’m going to go look for another walk through now! 💝
You’re right about the build quality, overall design and execution. I’m not so sure about you’re near obsession with going electric, adding weight to a ‘performance’ cat is simply a bad idea. Good Tube 👍
The weight of going electric and a traditional diesel motor and diesel tank is about the same if you go with lithium batteries. It can actually be less of you design it right.
Seawind are on fire at the moment!
They are!
It must be "climate change" again.
When I went to the boat show in Annapolis and looked around, the only production catamaran that came across as a boaters boat was the Seawind. The rest just reminded me of cheap Winnebago's attempting to attract the female half of the buying decision.
I have to say I was a bit surprised at your original views on the Seawind. Dollar for dollar this is the best cruising cat on the market. Well made, well designed, more performance than all but the Outremere's and other racing pedigree million dollar+ cruisers at a much lower price point. And the new Ruby Rose II will intrduce the 1300 series Seawinds, even more closely aligned to cruising needs. I'm buying one within the next 5 years and setting off!
I agree with you for the Seawind up to the 1260, nothing comparable to them on the market if you look for something different from a condomaran at that price range. For the 1300 series a possible competitor is the smallest Balance, both for now exist only on paper, but they should both have very good performance and building quality, at a similar price tag.
The Balance has the very clever helm, while i personally have some doubt on the Seawind choice as at night you have to shut down the lights in the central cabin to see trough its windows, and has dagger boards so can probably go better upwind, but the Seawind has some other clever perks to balance it.
I think that the choice between the 1370 and the 442 is more a matter of personal taste, but in each case you can not go wrong (luckily i don't have to chose as i can not afford them :) ...).
@Konstantin Ridaya Daggerboards should make for better performance, particularly upwind, but if you don't want them, they're optional.... :)
that is a nice smaller cat; i love those outboards how they are arranged and function.
You should update information about your channel on various social media and patreon. DIY was something you were doing, channels focus has changed nice to let newer viewers know about it.
Thanks for posting and sharing. Liked this boat better than the Lagoon 440 you reviewed.
My dads fishing boat is docked next to this boat I know the owners we give them fish sometimes it’s crazy to stumble across this video and seeing this boat
Great planned space in that size boat.
Can you do a review on a 1260? I'd love to see your opinion on it.
"Getting used to" a tripping hazard isn't something I'm willing to do. It's easy to walk over or around in a calm sea. Try that when you're rushing forward at night in rough seas. Otherwise, a really nice boat, especially for the money.
I should come sailing with you guys sometime I love sailing
Great choice.
One thing no-one mentions regarding cats, is that when a couple need a little time apart, there’s separate hulls to sulk in. Which might save a marriage, LOL
Great revisit..y'all seem as joyful AF! Is it the baby? Is it you are sailing? Or combo? However, it is so obvious this lifestyle suits you guys. Probably coastal till child ages a bit. Great stuff! Be safe, fair winds.
It's definitely both the baby and the sailing!
Love this design!
I really liked this little boat and it's the first Cat that is this small that I've liked. I really like galley down though and especially for this size and even a little larger. Would have been great if they could have fit a small forward facing Nav station in the salon and I'd be willing to give up a little of the settee to get one. Being as I'd use it as a personally family boat I wouldn't need that big of a settee and could live with just the part around the table as you have it positioned. That would leave the room needed to add the Nav station. Only thing missing is a washer/dryer and honestly it's really not that important. Great tour thanks guys...
Interested in cruising speeds with the outboards (1 vs 2, speed at what rpm, fuel per hour, etc?)
Glad you now see the quality of a Seawind, a truly innovative boat building company. They will soon own the market.
I think so. They're probably one of the most forward-thinking builders out there.
@@LearningtheLines I was one of those who critiqued your earlier review, and felt that you were missing the strengths of the boat and instead, saw them as weaknesses. I also thought the 1160 would be perfect for you two, once you understood why the boat surpasses many larger boats in quality and features, and is also much more affordable. Glad you both are open minded and gave it a 2nd look. I think this review is spot on. I will be retiring onto a 1260 in a few, but I would not hesitate to do so onto an 1160 as well. These are blue water performance boats with very smart/comfortable layouts. If you like electric outboards, the lite should be easy to set up. Well done.
Love seawinds myself. the are for sailors by sailors, and not for the inexperienced buyers that seem to control the cat market. they are no frills and all thrills.
Thanks for another thorough boat tour. Could you please try to incorporate some headroom figures in main areas in following episodes? It's a topic that not a lot of people cover in their reviews even though it is an issue of interest with many taller individuals. I am certainly one. P.S. When I wrote this comment I haven't watched the video to the end to notice that you did mention headroom this time. Thanks again, it seems like a very nice well-designed boat with ample space, especially for its size.
Watch the Ruby Rose tube channel. They went round pretty much every cat and have picked a Seawind.
@@snafufubar I've watched them but I don't recall them getting a lot more specific on headroom figures. The Seawind they ordered is in the 700K $ range way above my budget.
I think your first impression was right, I think the owners did a good job getting you to change you r true thoughts by their offerings , in other words bought you..
Cool boat......except for the faulty compass. @1:15 - Boca Grande Key is West of Key West :)
Lol oops, It's a wonder that we found our way back home! 🤣
Sold! How awesome, great tour too. I didn't see an escape hatch, any idea what the rule is for those? Also hoping for a few more views of the ceilings. Just enough to get an idea about lighting and circulation. Thanks guys
Escape hatches are on the outer sides of the hulls. They're not just escape hatches though you can actually use them for ventilation. It's multi-purpose and great design imo.
Thanks, I'm definitely learning from these videos.
This tours that you do normally are great but just scratch the surface. You really need to spend some time on a boat to give it a real evaluation. Yes, I like this boat too. Have sailed a few of them they are good quality.
Interesting. My wife and I live on a Corsair 3600 (it’s a cat) and there are a lot of similarities. There are a lot of differences too. The cockpit is huge as is the saloon relative to the Corsair but the tramp, deck, transoms, etc are all sacrifices for the interior. Ours is a light boat at 5ton dry and we probably have too much weight in it as is. With that extra room I could really horde some stuff! I hope they build them with the same care our Corsair was constructed with. I love our boat more every time I dig into it. She’s 27 years old and nothing creaky even offshore in relatively rough seas. No stress cracks no blisters, nothing. Vacuum bagging is wonderful, the parts most never see are still nice. No glass splinters here.
Seawind bought Corsair Marine if it's the same Corsair.
The Seawind 1600 is based on the Corsair 51 www.yachtworld.com/boats/2012/corsair-51-2655325/)
From the angle that you used to show the propane tank for the grill, it looked like it would be very exposed to a following sea. The tank even looked a bit corroded to me. I also didn't see a life raft?
I'm glad you had the opportunity to take a closer look at this boat and realized that it's okay to change your minds about some of the things you thought before. I think for its size the layout is well thought out and for a cat, the price seems much more doable. I also like the idea of going with electric motors since the smell of diesel turns my stomach!
Don't worry about the folks calling you sell-outs since they obviously don't listen or read very well and get most of their exercise jumping to conclusions. Personally, I've only ever sailed monohulls but that doesn't mean I don't have opinions about what I THINK I'd want in a catamaran, subject to change if I got the chance to sail one and found out some things were not what I expected to like/dislike. It's a bit like admiring a bikini on someone, then when you try it on yourself you realize it just doesn't fit the way you'd hoped! LOL That's why they have fitting rooms.
Yeah!!! Good to see you. Lots of room for building out your power system. For me, a water maker is crucial, as that is a survival item, never mind convenience. Having more solar capacity, including LiFePO
4 batteries, makes a water maker possible. If its raining, you can collect water. If its not raining, you can make water. Okay, I'm Captain Obvious. :-)
Brilliant. Have you bought the boat?
Definitely a couple things I can see I'm not nuts about but all in all it seems okay I guess. I know I would definitely want a table and seating outside... It's way too hot in the Bahamas and Caribbean to be hanging out in the saloon.. just a thought. Also, the diesel version seems like it would be way better then having a couple outboards but hey, what do I know lol
I wish Seawind would make some smaller boats again in the 8-10 meter range like they used to. Their lineup is really strong right now and the boats are unique compared to most other catamarans.
Boats are a series of compromises. Glad you were able to spend more time aboard and were not to proud to adjust your opinions.
Have you thought about using a mil.surplus parachute from the anchor winch. Very high above the bow to catch more stable wind. For downwind sailing ? I have been trying to get someone to try this.
There is already such a system that uses a kite sail and it's own computer controlled winch.
I've never sailed on a cat so I can't wait for that video. I wonder how badly it would have to sail to keep me from considering a cat as the cockpit alone is a huge selling point to me (considering the 90% at anchor theory).
Here's a hint: she sails faster and flatter than any mono I've ever sailed.
That boat wants a central tether anchor on the coach roof with a tether just long enough to hook on before you climb up.
I agree. It wouldn't be hard to install safety tethers.
Nice video. Nice Boat. How is it in rough seas? Choppy water? High winds?
As a newbie to sailing I just recently found out about Seawind and this more affordable catmaran. Does the offboard motors make it better than internal diesels for maintenance if intended for coastal cruising?
hi before you make up your mind on the Seawind might I suggest a look at the Lightwave catamarans ( 38 and 45). I think they have all the advantages of the Seawind plus fixes a few of your doubts.
Robert Adams Robert, completely agree. Very similar to sea wind and also more customisable. I’m actually disappointed in the new Seawind 1370, no daggerboards, galley up, etc. I was really hoping for a larger 1260 from the new boat, not a smaller 1600, if you get me. Light wave, while a little pricier, offer these in their 45s.
Very nice. Wish I could afford something like this
Seawind is dope! My next cat
No kidding ! U were way out before. That boat rocks !
How do you feel about the outboards vs traditional diesels?
Would you consider buying brand new and outfitting as you see fit, or looking for the right deal on a used one that may not be set up exactly as you want??
With the way the catamaran market is now, it makes more sense to buy new and outfit it exactly the way we want it. New boats are very close in price point to gently used, preowned boats. I think it has to do with the fact that it takes 1-2 years to build a new boat and some people dont want to wait that time period so they buy used.
Wow it's just perfect, I kind of like too Cook alone so it's feel like an other room and the view style there. Make you do exercice when you eat 😛
What type of electric outboards would you consider for this cat? How much solar would you need and what type of range do you think you'd get. I've seen discussions about other electric motors, but never outboards. I'm wondering how they compare. Thanks!
If you converted this to e-propulsion with dual e-outboards, how much battery storage do you think you would need and how much solar?
I prefer to have a wet head or locker within a yard of the companionway, so wet foulies can be stripped off and hung to dry without traipsing them through the boat.
I'd also like to see a nav table that still allows me to spread out charts. That one is sized for laptops only.
Based on a couple years cruising the South Pacific on a Searunner 37' trimaran, I always felt the boat was a bit on the "small" side in heavy weather. Sailing across tradewind belts (American Samoa to Tonga, for instance) makes one feel very vulnerable to capsize. For what it's worth, I think multihulls should be at least 40' and probably wouldn't cruise on one myself unless it was 44 or larger. A big 46' Piver trimaran capsized (with all 5 hands lost) while crossing from New Zealand to Fiji back in the mid 1970s. Size does matter.
Looks like there is enough room for a washer/dryer combo. That down galley was nice, it's just food down and food up all the time (no vomit jokes please). Needs a dumbwaiter.
Hi in your opinion being on the boat if you have sailed it how is it operating it? I’m thinking about buying one but I am concern about the helm station because it seems like you don’t have much of a POV to look through a window looking through the living room to drive forward seems like a giant blind spot. What is your opinion on it? I would love to know thank you.
Ty
In your crushing review could you cover the hobby horsing effect on this boat. The biggest issue I have heard about small cats is this effect. The weight of a cat and short length has some negative effects. How about this more performance design.
In my opinion is that a lack of experience on the first video was why you were so critical of this cat, until you have spend some time on a certain vessel it’s hard to judge any boat, I’ve been sailing for a living and recreational over 30 yrs and still far from knowing it all once you get some sea time under ur belt you’ll learn to know what you like and don’t like and what works for you doesn’t mean it works for the next person
I have seen other 1160's with 2 steps up the coachroof if that makes it easier
This would make a great weekender, I am not sure I could live that small. That said, I am an artist and need room to continue to make a living so... LMBO! I love the below deck galley! In rough sees it is going to be safer as there is not that much room for you to be bounced around because it is narrow. Also, it is nice because if you choose to not do your dishes right in that moment and someone knocks on your hull, they don't have to see your dishes and stuff. I still think it would be a bit small for a live aboard, but that is just me! Maybe because I want to be able to have lots of friends with me sailing all the time!
Lol weekender?? It's bigger than my apartment.
The 1160 is a 38 foot catamaran. It is somewhat comparable to a 55 foot mono hull in useful space. That is a big little boat. Big enough for a small family and definitely plenty big for a couple.
@@pierre.a.larsen Yeah, but I still need a place to sew and a place to paint and do glass work and such... This just seems small to me for my lifestyle. That said, a monohull is wider than the hulls on this, so I am not sure if your comparison size would be correct or not?
@@RiverWoods111 We are all different. Catamarans often have a lot of useful space though. And they usually have safer cockpits and large saloons with a lot of light.
I follow this couple a bit. They have a 46 foot catamaran. It is big when compared to the Seawind (it is not a performance boat and has less narrow hulls). But the lady of the boat enjoys sewing and she has transformed one of the four cabins into a sort of studio: ua-cam.com/video/5bgNEO-QKcc/v-deo.html
Gorgeous cat. Does it include a water maker?
My wife and I are considering retiring on a trawler, now we have to consider a sea wind cat
Would it be electric outboards or those regen motors that go through the bottom of the hullthos also rotate 90⁰ left and right to act as thrusters to make it even more maneuverable than a ship with just two separate rearward facing motors
I like the outboard motor s, easy access.
Cosmo Kwong one problem with the outboards is you have to haul the cat out of the water to change the gear oil, learned this from another owner.
Great review! Have you considered the 1260? It is more expensive - but it has some nice improvements and is little bit bigger. Replace the diesels with electric motors. You could even do regen (lots of energy in a performance cat under way), which I don't think you can do with outboards.
Add electric add 1200 Lbs of batteries, to give bugger all engine range, and turn the boat into a slug, brilliant. Where do the brains go, when electric orgasms begin?
@@grancito2 I have not done a conversion; but from what others have done and the information available:
If you take out 2 inboard diesel engines, start batteries, fuel filters and all/some of the diesel tanks (keep some if you want to have a generator) you save at least 350 kg - potentially a lot more.
Now remove the lead acid house batteries and you have a serious weight savings.
22 KWh mastervolt batteries (4 x 5500 watts) weigh in at 228 kgs total. 10KW electric motors with sail drives weigh less than 40kgs each and have nearly no maintenance.
You have a total electric solution and potentially a lighter boat - albeit a lighter wallet. You will save on fuel and maintenance though.
Add/keep a generator and your motoring range will stay the same or better (solar/regen will not really run out)
Electric outboard lift-able engines and batteries are now ALMOST the best viable option... (difference between Retired and no real time limits, - and the all too brief holiday charter)... A boom for cruising is not my choice... I prefer the Hitch Hiker rig, of flat cut genoa, roller reefed to each bow and dual sheets on each genoa set well aft... A small self tacking blade, used when the wind gets up & both genoa are fully furled (when +20 knots over the deck)... Tack downwind, (never wing on wing), and also upwind, setting for best VMG... This is my choice, for live aboard in retirement: simple, fast and easy...
People no longer drive model Ts with the first gear pedal to push to get up a hill. Make sure the arm rests on your chair are secure.