Speaking in terms of production quality, this is your best video yet. Nice work! On a personal level, this video is extremely interesting and helpful since the Seawind 1160 Lite is also on my short list (the 1260 is on my "if I win the lottery list"). The idea of the 1160 Lite being an electric boat is also very interesting. Looking forward to more of your thoughts and ideas on that.
Very accurate comments on coral health...or lack of it. I have been diving the Keys since 1980 but stopped a year ago. It is largely coral rubble and dead reefs, but you got some good shots of healthy coral and that is encouraging. Only time I dive the Keys now is working a wreck or hunting bugs.
Hi Guys thank you for taking us along for the ride.Sad to see the bleaching we have the same problem in Australia. Nice to see Randy is taking care with bubs. Have fun thats what it's all about. catch ya next time. God Bless. :)
Wow. I just finished watching the documentary. It’s sad what’s happening to our coral around the world. I believe as the documentary showed it’s public awareness and eduction in the most earliest years possible to preserve our ocean ecosystems.
I don't comment often on tubes, but Seawind is really doing some great stuff. With you tubers and beautiful boats. As a future buyer, I want them to know it is really money well spent. I'm 49 and plan to buy a boat in 3 odd years. So thanks.
This is one of my favorite cats out there. I LOVE that it uses outboards. So much easier for maintenance and repair. Cheaper to run. No diesel. I like the idea of electric outboards! Also: with even just a few hundred wars watts of solar, you can motor indefinitely on electric power (or add a little speed in light wind) without even using battery power. With a full array of solar, I bet you could cruise at a solid 4+ knots without using battery or sail. I've seen monohulls that can do 3 knots on just solar (I think I saw Uma doing so) and they are far more limited on space for solar panels.
I like it but that price tag you can get a maverick 440 for almost the same price.. I would choose the maverick for full time living but the performance of seawind yatchs definitely beat the mavericks
@@High_Desert_Tanner yes I like all the redundancy in the mavrick and efficiency.. its a really thought out boat plus it was designed so you can have it beached on low tide
Glad you guys got to experience a Seawind 1160 on the water. She is a well designed and built boat that is within the reach of many, and capable of crossing oceans. A very different sailing experience than on a 10 ton roomaran.
OMGosh that door wide open is amazing. looks like a Dance floor and I'm sure you two can get your boogie on jeje : ) Lovely boat and so great to see you. Went to the groceries and got 2 bottles of wine and 2 IPA's . Ready to enjoy and episode of Learning the Lines with a very special couple. Great music Arc De Soleil is Wow . First time I ever heard them , you must listen to Khruangbin they are Thai jazz influenced. I almost thought I was listening to them. Thanks for the good memories Guys
You folks should have seen what the coral reefs around the keys from Key Largo to Key West looked like 60 years ago when I was a teenager & the family would snorkel/free dive for a month every summer exploring the waters of one of the Florida keys. Gosh, you talk about pristine, many large turtles, rays: Manta, Leopard, Sting. One day a 4 foot diameter sting gave birth to many young, they emerge with wings overlapped & unfold immediately swimming. away. Barracuda over 6ft long populated the waters surrounding the lighthouse stilt frames; the lighthouses off Marathon & several others were manned by 30 day rotation crews. If a recreation boat with fresh caught seafood happened by they were welcomed in. Life was far simpler back then.
Seawind is one of the best livaboard cats, IMHO, as they are top quality blue water boats, very well thought out by people who love and know how to sail, and who want the best performance out of a livaboard. I think your reasons for the switch to them is sound, and you will be hard pressed to find a 40-42' cat with more livaboard space, two helms, open cockpit/salon setup, choice of engine configuration, that can sail anywhere as well. For the price of an 8-10 year old 42' Leopard or Lagoon, you can pretty much have a brand new Seawind - if you don't go crazy with add-ons. Look at adding extras like a/c, more solar, etc. after market. Seawind already specs out their boats with plenty of features that would be options from other builders, and they'll prep your boat for later installs.
It would be great if I could find an easy link to part 2 of your 'on the water' review. Navigation shouldn't be this hard, it must just be me. I'll tool around now for the 2nd part for the third time, looking like a newby, then head back to your main channel page, like I had to from the two previous parts of your 'series', that don't seem to be accessible from the previous ones. Removing my 'like' is seeping into my bilge a bit at the moment...
The only concern I have with the outboards is range. I love the idea of being able to pull them up out of the water (and avoiding prop entanglement during passages) - but would love to know if it would be possible to lift an outboard and cut off something entangling without having to get into the water.
You guys need more crew. lol. I had a 30' Wharram in Key Largo for ten years. When we motored through calms like that we either trailed two fishing lines or had two snorkelers dragging from lines behind the boat. We found a lot of lobsters and old anchors that way. Found a ballast pile too.
You know if you wanted to make one of those an electric boat you could still keep the potential for longer ranges by either placing a gas outboard and an electric outboard in the same well by making an adapter, or keeping one gas outboard and putting an electric one in the other well. Catamarans usually only use one engine most of the time anyway. Why not have the option for both types of propulsion? Also dual 25s seems like a bit much. The Gemini Cat has a typical 30 hp westerbeke, typically repowered to two 9.9 outboard or a 20hp single.
The Seawind 1160 Lite(stock version) used to be powered by two 9.9hp 4 stroke gasoline outboards contained in motor wells(1 in each Ama{hull} ). This provided more than ample auxillary power to enter/exit channels leading to/from harbors/anchorages. If a sailing Cat like the Seawind 1160 Lite is only used for fair weather occasional sailing then limited utilization of an electric outboard like a Torqeedo 10.0 R or T in 1 Ama & a 20hp 4 stroke gas outboard in the other Ama could be viable solution BUT if the vessel encountered unstable weather conditions or a "Pop-Up" squall line it's highly questionable if the single 20HP 4 stroke gas outboard could provide sufficient forward thrust & directional stability after the Torqeedo10.0 R or T had exhausted its LiOn power cell. I posed a similar scenario to www.Torqeedousa.com but they have refused to answer my questions; they also had erroneous performance data conversion factors on their website that I corrected & sent to them but they have not replied to me.
robert frederick thanks for the info. Batteries have come along way in the past few years as far as energy density and size but not quite there for a cruiser. Nothing beats the energy density of fossil fuel’s. Maybe in 5 to 10 years will have a breakthrough in Battery technology
@@bobsholtes4221 I could be mistaken but i seem to remember than on the Seawind 1160 with twin dagger boards that it used a 9.9hp 4 stroke outboard engine in each motor well. The Seawind 1160 that has dagger boards is lighter than the iteration with 1/2 keels under the Amas. Regardless, the stock 52 gallon gas tank(optional to 76 gallons) is limiting especially if the vessel is equipped with twin 20HP 4 stroke outboards for long passages in the ICW even if only 1 engine is used for propulsion& its twin is tilted up. I wonder why Seawind has not considered using a Yanmar DTorque 50HP TurboDiesel outboard near CL mounted & 1 or 2 bow thrusters in the forward AMA section for tight quarter maneuvering. Bob, you might think I'm "nuts" but i have engineered some amazing small sailing vessels that people peruse & shake their heads in disbelief; yet they sail well on a windward reach & literally scream on a downwind. Commercially produced vessels have to be "more robust" than what a backyard 'Tinkerer" is capable of but "proof of concept" is the same especially if the "tinkerer" does not have a flotilla of support vessels.
@@robertfrederick9061 the 1000 came standard with the 9.9s. We were one of the earlier 1160 lites in the US (we own the boat in the video). 20 Hondas were always std on the 1160. 74 gallon fuel tank was also standard. The 1190 is lighter than the 1160 but not enough to warrant smaller outboards.
I wonder with that being a Cat if you have to run both engines while motoring? Larger Cats usually only motor with one engine because the gain in speed from running both simply isn't worth it. Are these outboards set up as they are not capable of maintaining 4 to 5 knots if only running one of them on this boat? Thanks for the underwater footage and this really cool hands on tour. I know this is long past now but I truly hope you had a blast... Edited to add: The light wind performance of this little cat was pretty impressive can't wait to see how she handles something a little stronger...
I have loved your series of videos in the Seawind 1160. Thanks for sharing your views. Let me please ask you: did you feel that this is a catamaran with which you would feel safe (and comfortable) for traversing large oceans (or going around the world)?. Thanks once more
Nick and Terysa from the *Sailing Ruby Rose* channel are soonish going to get a Ruby Rose version of a new type of Seawind catamaran straight from the shipyard.
I'm not a cat guy but I do like that boat. Not that I don't like them, just never sailed on one. Always on mono's. That boat seems perfect for coastal cruising.
I love the way those kind of cats look I want a trimaran not for racing though... I appreciate that Lil environmental awareness segment too. And congratulations not sure if I missed the announcement
It will be interesting to see Part 2, but this confirms our experience that in light winds there is not a substantial speed advantage, if any, of cats over mono's. Our past three mono's would get you progressively close to 50% of true wind speed on a beam reach up to 12 knots with standard main and genoa (commensurate with boat length). Where the cat advantage kicks in is as the mono approaches hull speed, it takes a lot more wind to push it that extra half to one knot whereas cats can continue to climb in boat speed at a higher rate. Our current mono pretty much maxes out at 10 knots SOG in 25 knots of wind on a beam reach whereas a cruising cat can get up into the low teens and a performance cat can go higher still. Exception for mono's would be surfing downwind in heavy air where our mono has done 13 knots with the help of big seas and certainly cats would be faster still, although under a hairier ride. But in winds below 12-15 knots, there doesn't seem to be much of a performance difference between cats and mono's, sail types being equal.
You make good points. I really wish I could have tried flying true light wind sails though, because I'm fairly confident that on a beam in 7 knots true flying a code 0 she would be sailing at closer to 5 or maybe even 6 knots. The stock jib is just very very small.
Outboards seem like a good option for a (relatively) easy electric conversion. Just drop electric outboards (which there are more and more) and beef up your electrical system to accommodate.
I am looking at Seawind 1000 sit back steps looks perfect to have my to Brittany's Kum & go! The big question is the poop deck. Given your pup as a lot boat ⛵ smarts. So if you can pass on some secret to Jr and bird dog and Daisy
strange when i watched your review on the seawind you had a lot of negative things to say about the boat but now you have an opportunity to sail one for free your view has changed
You guys are starting to change my opinion of cats now ( I really didn't like cats). That is impressive speed in reality no wind I don't think you would move at all in a mono with winds around 2 knots.
We didn't like cats until we lived aboard Freebie and realized all the benefits. We still don't like "floating condo" catamarans, but performance cruising cats that are actually designed to sail well are extremely fun and practical.
Well if you don't like cats try a tri, they move just as well if not better in these winds, heal more than a cat but less than a mono and point better, the only real issue with a tri is accommodations you won't get even as much space as a mono, but so much fun to sail 😁.
@@daveamies5031 I have never sailed on a tri. I guess my bias is based on only sailing Mono or smaller Hobie cats and the horror stories I have heard from owners of bigger cats and tri's about the weakness of the structure. It sounds like these issues have been fixed in the past 40 years.LOL
Jeez, Florida is not the place to be these days. How do you know the previous occupiers on the boat were not infected? Brilliant to see you actually out on the water though.
I have doubts the added expense of two helms is worth it. Only one has engine controls so the additional helm seems to be a sop to the dual helm trend in monohulls. I would rather save the money involved in labor and materials and make better use of the space by having one helm and reducing the number and length of hydraulic steering hoses. Your thoughts?
I don't believe the steering is hydraulic. I think it's cable. I do like the twin helms in a boat as wide as this, especially since there isn't a raised helm. I found myself using both depending on what tack we were on, and for docking you can't beat being on the side of the boat you're aligning the dock with. The only thing I would change is to have the engine throttles on both helms and not just one. I found myself steering on one side and then having to run to the other to adjust the throttle a couple times.
@@LearningtheLines Yes the steering is cable. I know it sounds old school but cable helm has far less failure points and can be serviced and repaired while out at sea. This is why newer boats are still using cable. As the saying goes, if aint broke, don't fix it.
Nothing wrong with cable steering. I agree it simplifies repairs, is often less expensive than hydraulic, and nothing to leak. But repairs at sea? We can agree to disagree on that.
@@LearningtheLines Is there any way 2 have motor/throttle control @ both helms.? How hard/expensive would it b 2 add that..? I ask as that seems 2 b a common problem with many boats I'm interested in... Ur input would b greatly appreciated... Looking forward 2 part 2...
Your B & G electronics are identical to the Simrad devices also made by Navico. I wonder why the owner selected B & G instead of Simrad. Were these electronics installed at the factory? B & G units are very rare in south Florida.
B&G is the factory standard. B&G is the marketed to sailors, while the Simrad is geared more toward power boaters. You're right, it's all the same basic equipment, so most of it is just labeling. The radar on Seven Day Weekend is a Lowrance branded unit, but identical 4G radar.
I know I am an old salt but I'm somewhat surprised that you do not have any TELLTALES temporarily attached to the stbd &/or port shrouds. Electronic instruments are ok but do not show subtle wind behavior. Almost any landlubber can sail in steady 10 knots winds but there are many environmental clues to wind action that electronics cannot show.
If it were our boat we would not have the grill in the middle and just have a long bench instead to be able to lay on more easily. Just a personal preference there.
Yes, when we've moved our 1160 Lite North/South between MD and Bahamas/Key West, if we have to motor we typically run only one. At around 3000 RPM, one one motor we can see 6 kts, with just under 1 gph fuel burn on the Yamahas
Performance Cat or Cat sailing is not real sailing, if it does not involve being heeled over it is not real sailing. Now that is not to say that one can not enjoy such sailing or that one can not sail around the world on a Cat, but imho it is not real sailing. It is a different type of sailing is all. Others will of course disagree with me as they have a different idea of what real sailing entails. Neither is right or wrong, just matter of preference and each persons definition of what all applies. As I am sure many will not like being heeled over, and I would even agree that it is more taxing on the body, but I still enjoy it all the same. Because on the other hand due to shape of the hulls, a cat simply has the advantage over mono for speed, and speed is just one part of the fun.
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I remember when my ex-wife was pregnant. My daughter is 17 now. You have so much fun ahead of you. It goes by fast. Love every second of it.
you mean so much trouble !
Speaking in terms of production quality, this is your best video yet. Nice work!
On a personal level, this video is extremely interesting and helpful since the Seawind 1160 Lite is also on my short list (the 1260 is on my "if I win the lottery list"). The idea of the 1160 Lite being an electric boat is also very interesting. Looking forward to more of your thoughts and ideas on that.
Never saw that door hoist action previously. That is a great feature on many levels. Thx guys
You got me thinking about Seawind!
That door is awesome
Very accurate comments on coral health...or lack of it. I have been diving the Keys since 1980 but stopped a year ago. It is largely coral rubble and dead reefs, but you got some good shots of healthy coral and that is encouraging. Only time I dive the Keys now is working a wreck or hunting bugs.
I’ve always loved the Seawind Cat on many levels! Anxious to see part 2 and how she performs!
I can see you two on this boat! I hope it is soon! Nice video!😁💥
Thanks for that doc recommendation. Glad you had a good time...wish we could've joined you!
Next time hopefully!
It's great to see you folks out on the water, that Seawind looks a fun boat.
Hi Guys thank you for taking us along for the ride.Sad to see the bleaching we have the same problem in Australia. Nice to see Randy is taking care with bubs. Have fun thats what it's all about. catch ya next time. God Bless. :)
I'm glad you got to sail on the Seawind 1160 lite!! Makes me want to take a sail too!!
Many thanks to Bob and Sail Away Key West for letting us us have such a good look at an awesome boat.
Wow. I just finished watching the documentary. It’s sad what’s happening to our coral around the world. I believe as the documentary showed it’s public awareness and eduction in the most earliest years possible to preserve our ocean ecosystems.
I don't comment often on tubes, but Seawind is really doing some great stuff. With you tubers and beautiful boats. As a future buyer, I want them to know it is really money well spent. I'm 49 and plan to buy a boat in 3 odd years. So thanks.
This is one of my favorite cats out there. I LOVE that it uses outboards. So much easier for maintenance and repair. Cheaper to run. No diesel. I like the idea of electric outboards!
Also: with even just a few hundred wars watts of solar, you can motor indefinitely on electric power (or add a little speed in light wind) without even using battery power. With a full array of solar, I bet you could cruise at a solid 4+ knots without using battery or sail. I've seen monohulls that can do 3 knots on just solar (I think I saw Uma doing so) and they are far more limited on space for solar panels.
I like it but that price tag you can get a maverick 440 for almost the same price.. I would choose the maverick for full time living but the performance of seawind yatchs definitely beat the mavericks
@@lesstevens2370 The Maverick is the other one on our short list... Unless we go with a really large mono. Like 60 ft...
@@High_Desert_Tanner yes I like all the redundancy in the mavrick and efficiency.. its a really thought out boat plus it was designed so you can have it beached on low tide
Love that folding door!
Great to see you guys out on the water again. You both look so relaxed and happy.
It was awesome! We hope to do this more often.
@@LearningtheLines he he until .......welcome in the club...baby mess
Glad you guys got to experience a Seawind 1160 on the water. She is a well designed and built boat that is within the reach of many, and capable of crossing oceans. A very different sailing experience than on a 10 ton roomaran.
Glad to see y’all back sailing again.
OMGosh that door wide open is amazing. looks like a Dance floor and I'm sure you two can get your boogie on jeje : ) Lovely boat and so great to see you. Went to the groceries and got 2 bottles of wine and 2 IPA's . Ready to enjoy and episode of Learning the Lines with a very special couple. Great music Arc De Soleil is Wow . First time I ever heard them , you must listen to Khruangbin they are Thai jazz influenced. I almost thought I was listening to them. Thanks for the good memories Guys
Bob’s a great sport!
Bob's a legend!
You folks should have seen what the coral reefs around the keys from Key Largo to Key West looked like 60 years ago when I was a teenager & the family would snorkel/free dive for a month every summer exploring the waters of one of the Florida keys. Gosh, you talk about pristine, many large turtles, rays: Manta, Leopard, Sting. One day a 4 foot diameter sting gave birth to many young, they emerge with wings overlapped & unfold immediately swimming. away. Barracuda over 6ft long populated the waters surrounding the lighthouse stilt frames; the lighthouses off Marathon & several others were manned by 30 day rotation crews. If a recreation boat with fresh caught seafood happened by they were welcomed in. Life was far simpler back then.
Man I wish I had a time machine sometimes. I guess I'll get working on the Flux Capacitor and find an old Delorean!
Seawind is one of the best livaboard cats, IMHO, as they are top quality blue water boats, very well thought out by people who love and know how to sail, and who want the best performance out of a livaboard. I think your reasons for the switch to them is sound, and you will be hard pressed to find a 40-42' cat with more livaboard space, two helms, open cockpit/salon setup, choice of engine configuration, that can sail anywhere as well. For the price of an 8-10 year old 42' Leopard or Lagoon, you can pretty much have a brand new Seawind - if you don't go crazy with add-ons. Look at adding extras like a/c, more solar, etc. after market. Seawind already specs out their boats with plenty of features that would be options from other builders, and they'll prep your boat for later installs.
Seawind is the right choice now i am thinking about it...thanks to RR and now to you...
Very interesting. Actually very nice presentation of catamarans.
Great to see you two in action, you definitely walk the walk . If Bob was a really nice guy he should give you this Cat , just saying, Jersey.
It would be great if I could find an easy link to part 2 of your 'on the water' review.
Navigation shouldn't be this hard, it must just be me.
I'll tool around now for the 2nd part for the third time, looking like a newby, then head back to your main channel page, like I had to from the two previous parts of your 'series', that don't seem to be accessible from the previous ones.
Removing my 'like' is seeping into my bilge a bit at the moment...
The only concern I have with the outboards is range. I love the idea of being able to pull them up out of the water (and avoiding prop entanglement during passages) - but would love to know if it would be possible to lift an outboard and cut off something entangling without having to get into the water.
nice boat..... congratulations
You guys need more crew. lol. I had a 30' Wharram in Key Largo for ten years. When we motored through calms like that we either trailed two fishing lines or had two snorkelers dragging from lines behind the boat. We found a lot of lobsters and old anchors that way. Found a ballast pile too.
That Seawind is a gorgeous boat and I'm sure you will absolutely love it when you get your own, which I hope isn't too far off.
Very nice boat and video ❤️
You know if you wanted to make one of those an electric boat you could still keep the potential for longer ranges by either placing a gas outboard and an electric outboard in the same well by making an adapter, or keeping one gas outboard and putting an electric one in the other well. Catamarans usually only use one engine most of the time anyway. Why not have the option for both types of propulsion? Also dual 25s seems like a bit much. The Gemini Cat has a typical 30 hp westerbeke, typically repowered to two 9.9 outboard or a 20hp single.
The Seawind 1160 Lite(stock version) used to be powered by two 9.9hp 4 stroke gasoline outboards contained in motor wells(1 in each Ama{hull} ). This provided more than ample auxillary power to enter/exit channels leading to/from harbors/anchorages. If a sailing Cat like the Seawind 1160 Lite is only used for fair weather occasional sailing then limited utilization of an electric outboard like a Torqeedo 10.0 R or T in 1 Ama & a 20hp 4 stroke gas outboard in the other Ama could be viable solution BUT if the vessel encountered unstable weather conditions or a "Pop-Up" squall line it's highly questionable if the single 20HP 4 stroke gas outboard could provide sufficient forward thrust & directional stability after the Torqeedo10.0 R or T had exhausted its LiOn power cell. I posed a similar scenario to www.Torqeedousa.com but they have refused to answer my questions; they also had erroneous performance data conversion factors on their website that I corrected & sent to them but they have not replied to me.
robert frederick thanks for the info. Batteries have come along way in the past few years as far as energy density and size but not quite there for a cruiser. Nothing beats the energy density of fossil fuel’s. Maybe in 5 to 10 years will have a breakthrough in Battery technology
@@robertfrederick9061 Stock engines on the 1160 Lite are 20 HP Honda's. The Yamaha 25's were an upgrade.
@@bobsholtes4221 I could be mistaken but i seem to remember than on the Seawind 1160 with twin dagger boards that it used a 9.9hp 4 stroke outboard engine in each motor well. The Seawind 1160 that has dagger boards is lighter than the iteration with 1/2 keels under the Amas. Regardless, the stock 52 gallon gas tank(optional to 76 gallons) is limiting especially if the vessel is equipped with twin 20HP 4 stroke outboards for long passages in the ICW even if only 1 engine is used for propulsion& its twin is tilted up. I wonder why Seawind has not considered using a Yanmar DTorque 50HP TurboDiesel outboard near CL mounted & 1 or 2 bow thrusters in the forward AMA section for tight quarter maneuvering. Bob, you might think I'm "nuts" but i have engineered some amazing small sailing vessels that people peruse & shake their heads in disbelief; yet they sail well on a windward reach & literally scream on a downwind. Commercially produced vessels have to be "more robust" than what a backyard 'Tinkerer" is capable of but "proof of concept" is the same especially if the "tinkerer" does not have a flotilla of support vessels.
@@robertfrederick9061 the 1000 came standard with the 9.9s. We were one of the earlier 1160 lites in the US (we own the boat in the video). 20 Hondas were always std on the 1160. 74 gallon fuel tank was also standard. The 1190 is lighter than the 1160 but not enough to warrant smaller outboards.
Love it. Think we will look into them. Thanks.
All that delicious seafood swimming around you.
livin’ life , enjoy!
The sea was like glass in it's slip and near dead calm as you sailed. Still a good time though!
Eish, passing all those weed patches just shouted Mahi Mahi. I would not have been able to resist
I wonder with that being a Cat if you have to run both engines while motoring? Larger Cats usually only motor with one engine because the gain in speed from running both simply isn't worth it. Are these outboards set up as they are not capable of maintaining 4 to 5 knots if only running one of them on this boat? Thanks for the underwater footage and this really cool hands on tour. I know this is long past now but I truly hope you had a blast...
Edited to add:
The light wind performance of this little cat was pretty impressive can't wait to see how she handles something a little stronger...
That's what I like about your channel - you really like to rough it when you go sailing!
This boat looks like it is made for you two.
Awesome video...Thanks!
Thanks for the video. Wondering how was the maneuvering and speed with the 25 HP outborders. The 1160 has usually 2 20 HP Yamahas.
Looks like a lot of fun. I hope you get more hook ups.
I have loved your series of videos in the Seawind 1160. Thanks for sharing your views. Let me please ask you: did you feel that this is a catamaran with which you would feel safe (and comfortable) for traversing large oceans (or going around the world)?. Thanks once more
Nick and Terysa from the *Sailing Ruby Rose* channel are soonish going to get a Ruby Rose version of a new type of Seawind catamaran straight from the shipyard.
If Sail Away Key West has an 1190, it might be interesting to compare the two !
Nice that there were no lion fish on that reef !
Jack Patteeuw pretty much the same boat, 1190 just has an extra foot of sugar scoop.
I'm not a cat guy but I do like that boat. Not that I don't like them, just never sailed on one. Always on mono's. That boat seems perfect for coastal cruising.
I love the way those kind of cats look I want a trimaran not for racing though... I appreciate that Lil environmental awareness segment too. And congratulations not sure if I missed the announcement
It will be interesting to see Part 2, but this confirms our experience that in light winds there is not a substantial speed advantage, if any, of cats over mono's. Our past three mono's would get you progressively close to 50% of true wind speed on a beam reach up to 12 knots with standard main and genoa (commensurate with boat length). Where the cat advantage kicks in is as the mono approaches hull speed, it takes a lot more wind to push it that extra half to one knot whereas cats can continue to climb in boat speed at a higher rate. Our current mono pretty much maxes out at 10 knots SOG in 25 knots of wind on a beam reach whereas a cruising cat can get up into the low teens and a performance cat can go higher still. Exception for mono's would be surfing downwind in heavy air where our mono has done 13 knots with the help of big seas and certainly cats would be faster still, although under a hairier ride. But in winds below 12-15 knots, there doesn't seem to be much of a performance difference between cats and mono's, sail types being equal.
You make good points. I really wish I could have tried flying true light wind sails though, because I'm fairly confident that on a beam in 7 knots true flying a code 0 she would be sailing at closer to 5 or maybe even 6 knots. The stock jib is just very very small.
Outboards seem like a good option for a (relatively) easy electric conversion. Just drop electric outboards (which there are more and more) and beef up your electrical system to accommodate.
Hello that is very elegant boat 🚢 thanks. Saludos
Nice so so Lucky !!
I am looking at Seawind 1000 sit back steps looks perfect to have my to Brittany's Kum & go! The big question is the poop deck. Given your pup as a lot boat ⛵ smarts. So if you can pass on some secret to Jr and bird dog and Daisy
Voice text isn't correct at times
"Knot bad" he says - the pun master
What u think on Ruby Rose’s future Seawind build... Enjoying your posts..
strange when i watched your review on the seawind you had a lot of negative things to say about the boat but now you have an opportunity to sail one for free your view has changed
How about a Freebie update.
like it a lot! but..how you dining outsite? :) thx for answer
Seawind rocks.
You guys are starting to change my opinion of cats now ( I really didn't like cats). That is impressive speed in reality no wind I don't think you would move at all in a mono with winds around 2 knots.
We didn't like cats until we lived aboard Freebie and realized all the benefits. We still don't like "floating condo" catamarans, but performance cruising cats that are actually designed to sail well are extremely fun and practical.
Well if you don't like cats try a tri, they move just as well if not better in these winds, heal more than a cat but less than a mono and point better, the only real issue with a tri is accommodations you won't get even as much space as a mono, but so much fun to sail 😁.
@@daveamies5031 I have never sailed on a tri. I guess my bias is based on only sailing Mono or smaller Hobie cats and the horror stories I have heard from owners of bigger cats and tri's about the weakness of the structure. It sounds like these issues have been fixed in the past 40 years.LOL
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Jeez, Florida is not the place to be these days. How do you know the previous occupiers on the boat were not infected? Brilliant to see you actually out on the water though.
Why not the Gemini Legacy 35 ?
What was the music during your rif dive? It was beatifull (both dive and music:) !
“Knot” bad!
To a kid the coral is still beautiful it was a lot better in the 60s
I have been following your videos for a long time and I hope I can own a boat even if the dream of my life is small *_*
I have doubts the added expense of two helms is worth it. Only one has engine controls so the additional helm seems to be a sop to the dual helm trend in monohulls. I would rather save the money involved in labor and materials and make better use of the space by having one helm and reducing the number and length of hydraulic steering hoses. Your thoughts?
I don't believe the steering is hydraulic. I think it's cable. I do like the twin helms in a boat as wide as this, especially since there isn't a raised helm. I found myself using both depending on what tack we were on, and for docking you can't beat being on the side of the boat you're aligning the dock with. The only thing I would change is to have the engine throttles on both helms and not just one. I found myself steering on one side and then having to run to the other to adjust the throttle a couple times.
@@LearningtheLines Yes the steering is cable. I know it sounds old school but cable helm has far less failure points and can be serviced and repaired while out at sea. This is why newer boats are still using cable. As the saying goes, if aint broke, don't fix it.
Nothing wrong with cable steering. I agree it simplifies repairs, is often less expensive than hydraulic, and nothing to leak. But repairs at sea? We can agree to disagree on that.
@@nez3009 Many think it gives you a better feel for the rudders as well when steering manually...
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Is there any way 2 have motor/throttle control @ both helms.?
How hard/expensive would it b 2 add that..?
I ask as that seems 2 b a common problem with many boats I'm interested in...
Ur input would b greatly appreciated...
Looking forward 2 part 2...
Your B & G electronics are identical to the Simrad devices also made by Navico. I wonder why the owner selected B & G instead of Simrad. Were these electronics installed at the factory? B & G units are very rare in south Florida.
B&G is the factory standard. B&G is the marketed to sailors, while the Simrad is geared more toward power boaters. You're right, it's all the same basic equipment, so most of it is just labeling. The radar on Seven Day Weekend is a Lowrance branded unit, but identical 4G radar.
You managed to work out a great deal. If I get a pretty young wife and grow a beard maybe I can do it too.
I know I am an old salt but I'm somewhat surprised that you do not have any TELLTALES temporarily attached to the stbd &/or port shrouds. Electronic instruments are ok but do not show subtle wind behavior. Almost any landlubber can sail in steady 10 knots winds but there are many environmental clues to wind action that electronics cannot show.
the tell tails are on the mainsail and the jib, plus there are tell tales on the main's leech.
Why not a parasail???
Lots of sharks out there
Thanks for the review! Curious if the lack of comfy outdoor seating in the aft got to you? Those benches look crappy for long stretches!
If it were our boat we would not have the grill in the middle and just have a long bench instead to be able to lay on more easily. Just a personal preference there.
Learning the Lines thanks!
what, if any, difference is there in insuring a catamaran vs. a monohull?
Whats the name of the thing that cradles the sail when its down?
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Wonder how much they got paid for this one.
Can they make the 1160 with lifting rudders ?
Yes. If we get one it'll be with daggerboards and lifting rudders.
Beach cat!
@@LearningtheLines I am surprised on how the advantage of daggerboards and lifting rudders is ignored so much by both the industry and customers !
Nice bump Randi..... Your glowing...... interested in this cat... with friend ... Price??? West Coast location
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Are you going to strip it and then give it away?
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Waters look nice but I’m curious how you’re feeling out there being pregnant!
Can the cat motor on just one outboard? If so, what speed could you maintain on just 1 outboard at what RPM? Trying to do some fuel calculations.
Yes, when we've moved our 1160 Lite North/South between MD and Bahamas/Key West, if we have to motor we typically run only one. At around 3000 RPM, one one motor we can see 6 kts, with just under 1 gph fuel burn on the Yamahas
So aside from UA-cam, are there any solid ways to make money while living aboard and cruising?
Prostitution, theft, and begging😁
@@chrissignal8857 oof that hurt, gotta be something legal
People who trash cats are just salty they can't afford one
Waddle mama power!
Man what happened to your channel? Just reviewing boats now? Where'd the dream go? I guess reviews get you a couple more dollars
Probably building the channel and the brand enough to have an income so they can go sailing full time. Takes dollars to be full time cruisers.
Guys guys. ....... keep up!
4 Commercial breaks for a 17 minute video? Nope just looking for money
Performance Cat or Cat sailing is not real sailing, if it does not involve being heeled over it is not real sailing. Now that is not to say that one can not enjoy such sailing or that one can not sail around the world on a Cat, but imho it is not real sailing. It is a different type of sailing is all. Others will of course disagree with me as they have a different idea of what real sailing entails. Neither is right or wrong, just matter of preference and each persons definition of what all applies. As I am sure many will not like being heeled over, and I would even agree that it is more taxing on the body, but I still enjoy it all the same. Because on the other hand due to shape of the hulls, a cat simply has the advantage over mono for speed, and speed is just one part of the fun.