I highly recommend you work with the salvage yard to try to squeeze in a 20 foot storage container with temporary power. You can then install a split unit A/C in the container. Build it out with appropriate shelving & storage containers. Inventory & store everything you took off the boat. The container will also be good to securely store expensive, temperature sensitive chemicals & supplies as welll as all of your spiffy tools. The investment in air-conditioned storage/workspace along with a good inventory system will save you tons of money and time in the future.
100% agree but go for a 40' high bay if you possibly can. The extra height is a game changer for so many reasons and for that project 20' isn't enough. Believe me.
I would suggest putting a tarp over the boat to shade the boat as much as possible. I live in the tropics and that's the only way to survive working outside. It's a cheap and easy thing but very efficient
A storage unit is considered a "building" under fire codes, because it has walls and a door. That can require extinguishers, different storage and power wiring, extinguishers--and cause a totsl change in the yard's insurance as well. If you just have a canopy, just something between you and the sky, then you don't have those problems. So depending on local things, just getting a storage cube ($3-6,000?) might not be so simple. FWIW.
Ignore the trolls. We all love oh glorious sanding whether its wood, fibreglass or paint. Great to see the wallboard and post-its out for planning. Getting started you just need to find a piece of the string and start following where it leads but you know that already.
From experience, keeping & maintaining a non-crushed boat is already more than enough work. This project is wasting so much life time. I've unsubscribed.
@@casybond😂wow his life is attached deeply to yours??? I’ll bet he doesn’t even realize your life comes to a halt every time he “waste life time”. What WILL you do with all the free time you’ll have??
There are as many paths through life as there are people. The ability to take on a large project and enjoy the restoration of something broken into something whole surely gives us hope for our own lives, even if it has to be done in the land of Betty Swallocks. Is it wise to dispute the decisions of someone else who has different gifts and hopes than your own? Let us support this effort even if it is not one we would choose for our own lives…
Those who question your light sanding of the primer don't understand paint regardless of its ingredients. You are correct, your top coat will be a reflection of whatever it's being applied to so make that primer pretty if you want a show finish.
To shed some light on your roller question. The small hole you may notice sometimes doesn’t roll smoothly and will stick and slide along your surface rather than roll. To fix that they created a miniature wall style roller it does much better and does not get stuck.
Out of all the thousands of hours I've spent using them I can't say I've ever seen or heard of that happening unless you don't clean the handles between uses
Long time follower here, from the Obelix days. I can't express how happy I am for you guys, and for myself too - because now the channel will go back to being more about boatwork and "somewhat extensive" refits, and less tourism content which never interested me much. Looking forward to all the man-glitter and oh-glorious-sanding, and hoping to hear some Danish cursing as well!
So excited for this Mads! Been watching since Oblix and loved everything you did with Athena. This is your 2nd best acquisition after Ava. ;) Looking forward to many years of content! Between you and RAN this is going to be a fantastic few years. Thanks!
@@AvaSailLifeso glad you are back to keep Mads out of trouble and get some work out of him. I really enjoy watching your and Mads life. Take care and tell Mads to check into Mr cool ( Mr Kool not sure how they spell it) mini splits. They are made for the DIY installers. Could make a temporary house for it in the cat to keep Mads cooler, might get more work out of him that way 😂🙏
Take a look at what MJ Sailing did (youtube channel). They got a tent garage rented up north and then spent over 2 yrs in the tent, building the same size Cat. Now they are out of the tent and you may be able to rent that exact tent. So in the summer, the tent shaded the hull so it was easier to work inside of it, especially with a portable A/C unit. In the winter, the tend kept the winter out and again, they could use a portable heating unit. So you might want to have the cat trucked up there and not do the engine compart first. If in Florida, try tenting the cat over head at least and then use a portable a/c unit inside. The tent will keep the sun from baking the cabin- top. You could do that for about 3 to 5 months, while the rest of the year will not be that bad to work in. Also note that us Floridians get use to the heat when you are in it for a while.
@@peterramsden2 The heat can be mitigated. Besides, the longer you work in it, the more you get use to it. Just like people do in the winter up north. I can't stand working in weather below 60F but willing to work in heat over 90F like I've been for several months each year.
Great work even I, in Australia, am excited for you, that's how endearing you've become, Im jealous, Id love to be down among the dust. you're either freezing in snow and ice doing boat repairs or sweating in humidity and heat doing boat repairs, it appears there's no happy boat repairs in a temperate climate. That project is really very good, it's the perfect project. That's going to be a terrific boat. Except now you've become catamaran people you'll have to learn to not talk to anyone or show friendship in any way or else you'll be kicked out of the catamaran society and exposed as normal people. We loved our catamaran, I was sad to sell but age does weary and the years do condemn. You're both very decent people. Great work.
Questions about the upcoming refit I would like to see answered: 1. Are you considering retrofitting the engines you have to the newer hybrid configuration? 2. Since you need a new mast thingy anyways, are you considering going with the new Selden Tall Rig setup? follow up, did any of the original sails survive in a useable state? 3. Can I have a wombat? (ok, fine. it was worth a shot!) 4. are you planning on any significant changes to the exterior of the boat aside from the new hard dodger? 5. If you aren't going to paint the hull blue, which is the awesomest and bestest boat color, why not??? 6. Coppercoat again, or something else (maybe ablative pistachio pudding?) 7. did the mast boom survive? it looked like it may have been there in some of the earlier Bryan sailing videos but it seems to have disappeared later. 8. Is Antares reaching out to you to help out with anything?
If they were considering going electric this mights be the time. I’m sure at least doing a cost comparison between all the replacement motor things and a new electric setup wouldn’t be amiss.
if you sail globally, EV propulsion is a very, very bad idea. your life depends on those engines. you need engines that are extremely reliable and can be easily repaired or replaced in third world ports. ideally you want to have the most common marine diesel engines used all over the world.
@@jskidpatrolI will be glad when the work starts. There is way to much talking going on right now at this stage. I mean I wait a whole week to watch this rebuild but only get a 22 minute video of just talking, I can get that from watching the news 😂 Just complaining not hating, I love Mads and his wife 🇺🇸🙏
Carefree is the luckiest boat in the world to become adopted by Mads. I had watched Bryan's channel since it began, alongside Teal, Colin, Rosco, Raff & Sasha, and OGS and I know I will be waiting excitedly for all updates on this new Sail Life adventure. Congratulations.
Advance Congratulations! Your retrofit of Athena got me through the pandemic. Now, I can enjoy years of O glorious everything. Always watching from Siargao Island, Philippines.
I've been watching your channel since the beginning with Athena. Unfortunately, over time my attention fell away once you were underway with your travels. But now, I'm back and once again looking forward to a new and exciting DIY adventure each week. You are an inspiration ...
It's funny to hear there are others with same exact thoughts of this channel. I was away for over a year (because the sailing is not why I'm following this channel) and now I came back because of the new boat and the ensuing sanding.
Mads and Ava I stumbled onto your videos with Oblix some years back and thoroughly loved each and every episode. While watching you two enjoy the fruits of your hard work by cruising, I'm so excited to see how you resurrect this catamaran. I think you are one of the hardest-working guys around. I am sure many people out there rebuilding boats look to your channel and videos to learn the correct way of completing a project. Your meticulous attention to detail sets you apart from the rest. Good luck with the rebuild. I know I'll have a couple of years of mighty fine entertainment of the highest caliber available. Cheers
Watched Brian get this hunk so it could float then watched him gear it up and move it to that yard. Watched him go from happy to be working on the boat to working But none too happy. I'm amazed he got as far as he did with it and I'm happy that you got to take over this hunk of excellence.. I'll be watching. And I'll keep watching Brian on his next adventure..
I think Brian's work on the hulls is not that bad that it needs to be redone. Repairs on the hull's side would not get that massive amounts of UV, based on video above. And tanks can be inspected with camera, no need to cut the bulkheads.
Brian must also be glad to pass the boat to capable hands. I’m from Florida and make sails and canvas and completely understand when you have had enough of the heat you have to move on. When you get the boat mobile I would suggest somewhere a little cooler maybe the Chesapeake. I have worked here 30 years and it’s gotten hotter or I have gotten older or maybe both. Love watching your digital skills. I am mostly analog so I have learned from your digital skills.😊
As a Canadian, who loves the winter, I can attest to the fact that FL does in fact become comfortable (and I have been there when it snowed). My family lives in FL and I know what you are going through - I hate visiting in the summer, it is unbearable. Air conditioning is essential during the summer.
I think they might need to rig up a set up like Sailing Uma have in their Italian boatyard rebuild .. part of their problem was what the temperature and humidity was doing to their GRP and epoxy work.. working and setting times.
As another person who didn’t do well in FL’s hot humid summer heat, it does get quite lovely there during the winter months. I’d say it’s more 5-6 months of gross hot sticky sweaty weather, with a delightful winter that feels like an enjoyable Oregon coast summer.
Congratulations on your purchase. I very much enjoyed Bryan's journey obtaining and repairing the boat. I think his videos and background will be helpful. I can't wait to see how you proceed.
There are primers that doesn't need to be sanded IF within a certain amount of time the top coat is applied, as specified in the datasheets of the primer.
Oh glorious sanding! I've wantched every episode and now definitely watching probably the next 4-5 years worth 😊 Good luck guys and can't wait to see the finished results.
Im also a long time viewer and am so thrilled to see you two aquire this project. Having had a stroke 11 months ago, my world has been turned inside out but i am working hard to regain function. Not sure if ill survive long enough to see the completion of this project, but its a goal of mine. Cant think of two more deserving people than you to have such a wonderful oppurtunity. Sure will be spiffy when shes done.
Glad you got the paperwork and the finalization of the purchase. Hope you got your ad revenue issue taken care of too. Split AC heater would work for you during the refit. Wish I could be there to help! On an added note, here is hoping Bryan still has his nifty CNC he built still available. That was very helpful for him with the work he did.
Congratulations on the fantastic catamaran. What a project! We are particularly pleased about this, as Ava's first visit on a catamaran was on our Suria in Brest/France. It was really great to meet you there. Best wishes from Greece and happy sanding, Ricci & Dirk, SY SURIA ⛵️😃
I watched all of Brian's channel and was sorry to see his ambition scuppered by life events. But oh joy, you've taken the baton and will run with it and I'll get to see another pile of GRP saved from land fill. The fact that this is certainly the start of an epic bout of oh glorious sanding is the icing on the cake. Hoorah!
I watched your channel for years and thought I'd seen the last of you two after you set sail for the US. And now your'e back with a new project! Wonderful for me and us armchair boat restorers. Thank you so much for sharing your adventure.
You now own it. The clean-up looks good. You and your partner appear more organized and focused than Brian. Who had big plans and got derailed. The boat was slowly consuming him. But you have the advantage of the major holes, cracks and repairs are done. The boat's shape and structure are there. Now it's decisions on interior vs exterior vs weather. Post Covid, supplies are more available. Should be interesting to see your vision, process and timing compared to Brian's.
Hey Mads - any chance of getting the boat moved within the yard putting two 20 foot containers (one on each side) and using the roofs of the containers to construct a frame for shelter over the cat? The containers could of course be used for storage of parts and the other for rebuilding materials.😀👍⛵️
Congratulations on the new project! I’m excited for you & Ava on this next step in your life. I enjoyed seeing the flashbacks on the boat’s damage, and Brian’s work on repairs. Any chance you could show some pictures of the boat when it was in its prime? Love your channel😊
OMG! A spiffy Sunday and what a great project it is going to be. Many congratulations on this purchase - that's me hooked again for another few years even my wife unit enjoyed this video so you are both honoured 😊
Yes, sand the primer. Obviously, if you top coat over rough primer, your topcoat will reflect the substrate lumpy condition. Primer on cars in body shops is usually sanded to a 400 or 600 grit finish before applying the color.
I could just see your shared frustration around the new boat. Congratulations on the new project and I look forward to watching while you work. Lastly, you didn’t get your subscriber base by doing a bad job, they watch to see someone passionately do the best job they can. Keep it up!!
I've worked outside in FL for most of my life. You just have to kind of surrender to the heat and your body will adapt. Wear a hat and STAY IN THE SHADE. You need to create shade for the boat if you have any chance of surviving the heat. A/C is great but its tough on the body moving in and out of it all day long. You either need to be in it or out of it but if you can stay in the shade and get the air moving its quite tolerable. I'd suggest looking into one of those Carolina Carport type structures that can withstand winds and are reasonably priced and can be installed quickly. Even one of those heavy duty canopies that stretch between two cargo containers might work well and would provide needed storage. I'd stay away from those cheap tarp and pipe type canopies, they are flimsy and will not tolerate the sun or wind long term. One way or the other if you are going to stay in FL, you've got to get out of the sun. Looking forward to see how you go!
Some folks are 6-foot paint job type of people, so sanding the primer is not seen as necessary; the surface is still protected and looks fine from 6 feet away. You on the other hand are a 1-foot über-spiffy paint job type of guy and why we admire your work so much. If you weren’t nautically inclined, you would fit right in with the classic car set!
Just to mention my experience with the " weenie and jumbo weenie frames and roller covers" Early on the jumbo weenie frames and covers were what was available, and what I used. Slowly the jumbo weenie rollers were less desirable than the weenie rollers and phased out , except for the fact that some ppl still wanted to use what they had learned were a Superior roller (for tight spaces) than the traditional roller frame and cover. And they still had the jumbo weenie frames and kept asking for them from thier local paint supplier. The argument can be that they hold more paint , but I honestly believe the paint suppliers just keep a few of the jumbos alive just to try to make everyone happy. My solution is ,I have two jumbo frames and 10 + weenie frames. But I'm with you. Good luck on your project.
Looks like a trip to the scrap yard is in your future. I know Ava is just pumped for cleaning out everything too! Sanding primer? 100%. The primer I just used for a restoration project actually states "Wet Sand before top coat for best results". I did exactly that with some 400Grid Wet sanding and the top coat was smoooooooooth as a baby's butt! As for Florida Weather...It's 12 months of h3ll compared to what you dealt with back home. Roller sizes? Got me. I've got small trim roller frames that can do the large or small 'hole', and yea. Same goes for that stupid tray. I end up using my large paint tray liners for them because somebody had to make their own 'thing', probably to get around some patent or another. My only guess as to why there are so many sizes/mounts now...getting around some trademark or patent.
Consider installing an inspection port on the top of each of these bilge area fresh water tanks. The access panel in the sole of the head may be a challenge, but you are up to anything Mads! Considering the crazy FL weather, any tent you put up should be able to be taken down rapidly to preserve it in the event of HIGH winds. Yes, yes. I realize there have never ever been HIGH winds in FL, but ya never know.............. KEEP UP YOUR OH GLORIOUS SANDING !!!!
I live near Tampa so I understand boat work in the heat. Shade and high velocity fans. Small squirrel cage fans for inside the boat, and a large36” shop fan for working outside. Might not be great for microphones, but it helps a lot when you’re soaked in sweat.
Paint roller handles are threaded, so as to take a standard broom handle. And, of course, there are telescoping paint handle extensions that are used when painting ceilings. I found, though, when last applying bottom paint, that adding a simple 30-40cm extension is very helpful. Gives you a lot more reach, when painting, but not so long as to be clumsy while you're crawling around under the boat.
I knew I recognised that boat the second I seen it , I watched Bryans episodes and then they just stopped . glad to see the project had been taken over and we will get to see her sail again !
Hi Mads! Glad to see you are back at a new project! Can’t wait to follow you both in this adventure this time 🎉 and to those people who feel like sharing THEIR thoughts on what they think is the best way forward for you, do please ignore them. And yes, you people who think you alone know what’s the right way concerning boat work, you really need to just zip it. You are not the expert on stuff that has multiple ways of doing it. There are many ways forward - also concerning what products you use. So people, let Mads make up his mind and please spare us yours ✌🏻Mads and Eva rock!
Here we go, it’s going to be a great ride. You guys are a great team and with the talent Mads has & the drive & encouragement Ava has, the end result will turn out better than the original boat was. Happy days.
Great to see the project begin. My addiction started watching you fix up Athena along with Tally Ho. Most of the projects I've followed since are now back in the water so your timing couldn't be any better! I am looking forward to the big tidy up followed by regular sanding updates! Congratulations on the purchase and all the best for the project!
I loved watching you with Athena and marvelled at the amount of work you did … but I have to say that you two are absolutely crazy to take on this project…. And I’m an expert on crazy! I know I’m an expert on crazy because I’m TOTALLY going to be here with you every step and every worn out sheet of sand paper … so, to coin a phrase- c-ya!
On the aircon: considering that split aircon setups are wildly more reliable and efficient than a portable unit, you could always look into a caravan/campervan style split unit? I'm not sure how long it'll hold out compared to more marine oriented aircons (since salty air prolly won't have been a consideration in the campervan types) but it'll probably be cheaper and should still work like a charm. as for mobile vs caravan style split types. the price is usually comparable, and the performance of a split unit is almost always tons better (and they tend to be more energy efficient). so if their lifetime at sea is comparable to mobile units, it's deffo worth considering skipping a mobile one and going for a caravan/campervan style window unit. I don(t have personal experience though, so best to ask around with other sailors that have had aircon units, see if they suggest going straight to a marine oriented one, or if a normal works holds out just fine.
2 other recommendations. 1st.... Rent a 40ft shipping container, preferable an insulated one with a side door. Of course you'll want to have it placed bext to the cat, with side door facing the cat and barn doors towards the bow. You can then run power to it and have it next to your cat. Then install a portable A/C unit inside of it, with a workbench in the center and shelving that you could buy on marketplace that could be run on all remaining interior walls on all side of the workbench, from floor to ceiling, to literially have a storage unit/workshop next to your project boat. There you can remove all of the items and clutter stored inside of the boat and carefully label and organize them on the shelving. That way, you'll have the ability to completely clean out the boat, scrubbing it from top to bottom, to truly see what you are working with and have room to work in those areas. I would pill all the wiring, hoses and plumbing out of the boat, salvaging only items that can be restored as almost new and pitching all wiring and hoses. I'd remove all thru-hull fittings and valves, sand and epoxy paint all the bilges that they live in and then replace them with all new bronze thru-hull fittings and valves. Then pull what tanks you can, restore them, clean and epoxy pain the in that area before re-installing them. Oh yeah, the list will be growing daily for you!
After clearing the debris from the deck and surrounding area, you may want to build a ribbed shed for sun protection and the Florida heat. You probably have seen the one on the tally Ho channel a few years ago.
Maybe a better shed would be similar to the one made for the Duracell project. Even if it was somewhat portable you could move it over the position you were currently working on and not need a 50 foot one.
You’re right, Tally Ho and Duracell are single hull and shorter so the design would have to be engineered , modified and enlarged. Yes it would be a considerable project in itself, but I think would be worth it in the long run.
No way. Work on the outside when cooler, inside when warmer. Use the savings in time and money to Insulate. insulate, insulate. And insulate some more. Mesh truck tarps last forever, are affordable, do not trap the heat inside, could care less about the high wind and provide a good amount of shade. I use the "LeavesShade" brand. Some of mine have been continuously in the elements for over 5 years . Do not forget to insulate!
I think you will bump into a few surprises like the paint roller while in the USA. Why do they use phillips screws? Because Henry Ford got into an argument with Mr. Robertson. Why do they use the imperial system instead of the Metric system? The USA got into an argument with the French... And on and on... LOL I still think this is a crazy project but if anyone can tackle it, it is you two. A window type air conditioning will save your life in the Florida heat. And yes, sanding the primer is a thing, preparing the surface before painting is 90% of the end result, unless you plan on applying non-skid paint. 🙂 Looking forward to the next video!
Oh Boy --lots of oh glorious sanding and playing with lots of itchy sticky gooey stuff, should be very interesting, lots of fun. Glad you snagged one of the remote filter masks, that's going to be a game changer. Have you decided on a boat name yet?
I would suggest leaving the hull area, where you were working, unfinished. You basically have a paint and prep booth, right there. It's the perfect areas to use for any and all your painting, to stay out of the Florida sun.
Mads your standard of workmanship is just amazing so everyone has absolute confidence in your work skills and ability to complete this to a “spiffy” degree/ quality. Of course endurance is already part of your background proven by the previous refit, well done and I certainly look forward to seeing the transformation take place. You have intestinal fortitude!! For large projects. 😎😎and Ava to back you up.
Do what you can do. Forget the rest!! You all are living your best life, not someone else's. I hope you accept some volunteer help. I cant wait to see the clean up and work get under way.
Oh my God! What an unbelievable undertaking 😮. BUT I’ll delight and enjoy every segment of the refit. You guys will help me get through the next 7 months without a boat to sail in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan. Enjoy Gallivant Catalina 36 Lake Michigan Escanaba Jim
really looking forward to this! also a suggestion (if i may...) right before the, "see you!" part of the video add in a few seconds for... Danish word of the day! i'd enjoy that.
I just got back from Florida where I purchased a 1976 WS 32. I’m looking forward to watching because I’m gonna hopefully pick up some tricks in helping me get mine ready to set sail as well.
I highly recommend you work with the salvage yard to try to squeeze in a 20 foot storage container with temporary power. You can then install a split unit A/C in the container. Build it out with appropriate shelving & storage containers. Inventory & store everything you took off the boat. The container will also be good to securely store expensive, temperature sensitive chemicals & supplies as welll as all of your spiffy tools. The investment in air-conditioned storage/workspace along with a good inventory system will save you tons of money and time in the future.
100% agree but go for a 40' high bay if you possibly can. The extra height is a game changer for so many reasons and for that project 20' isn't enough. Believe me.
That is a good idea, there is so much inside of that boat, OMG!
I would suggest putting a tarp over the boat to shade the boat as much as possible. I live in the tropics and that's the only way to survive working outside. It's a cheap and easy thing but very efficient
A storage unit is considered a "building" under fire codes, because it has walls and a door. That can require extinguishers, different storage and power wiring, extinguishers--and cause a totsl change in the yard's insurance as well. If you just have a canopy, just something between you and the sky, then you don't have those problems. So depending on local things, just getting a storage cube ($3-6,000?) might not be so simple. FWIW.
@@lyfandeth Is sea container (20" TEU) really a building?
Ignore the trolls. We all love oh glorious sanding whether its wood, fibreglass or paint. Great to see the wallboard and post-its out for planning. Getting started you just need to find a piece of the string and start following where it leads but you know that already.
From experience, keeping & maintaining a non-crushed boat is already more than enough work. This project is wasting so much life time. I've unsubscribed.
@@casybond😂wow his life is attached deeply to yours??? I’ll bet he doesn’t even realize your life comes to a halt every time he “waste life time”. What WILL you do with all the free time you’ll have??
@@86lowrider Ha Ha! 😄
There are as many paths through life as there are people. The ability to take on a large project and enjoy the restoration of something broken into something whole surely gives us hope for our own lives, even if it has to be done in the land of Betty Swallocks. Is it wise to dispute the decisions of someone else who has different gifts and hopes than your own? Let us support this effort even if it is not one we would choose for our own lives…
Haters be hating …. Please continue with ‘o’ glorious sanding’
Those who question your light sanding of the primer don't understand paint regardless of its ingredients. You are correct, your top coat will be a reflection of whatever it's being applied to so make that primer pretty if you want a show finish.
To shed some light on your roller question. The small hole you may notice sometimes doesn’t roll smoothly and will stick and slide along your surface rather than roll. To fix that they created a miniature wall style roller it does much better and does not get stuck.
Out of all the thousands of hours I've spent using them I can't say I've ever seen or heard of that happening unless you don't clean the handles between uses
And it is probably more environmentally friendlier as it only uses plastic once rather than in each sponge.
@@benmac940I'll give that a go Ben. I've had a lot jam up on me. Hopefully that will sort the problem.
Congratulations to all three of you! Ava, Mads and the boat.
Thank you 😊
Long time follower here, from the Obelix days. I can't express how happy I am for you guys, and for myself too - because now the channel will go back to being more about boatwork and "somewhat extensive" refits, and less tourism content which never interested me much. Looking forward to all the man-glitter and oh-glorious-sanding, and hoping to hear some Danish cursing as well!
So excited for this Mads! Been watching since Oblix and loved everything you did with Athena. This is your 2nd best acquisition after Ava. ;) Looking forward to many years of content! Between you and RAN this is going to be a fantastic few years. Thanks!
That is very sweet :) Thank you for watching 😊
Thank you so much! :) I really like RAN too :)
@@AvaSailLifeso glad you are back to keep Mads out of trouble and get some work out of him. I really enjoy watching your and Mads life. Take care and tell Mads to check into Mr cool ( Mr Kool not sure how they spell it) mini splits. They are made for the DIY installers. Could make a temporary house for it in the cat to keep Mads cooler, might get more work out of him that way 😂🙏
Duracell is also excellent if you have space for any more fiberglass boat projects in your life!
@@mwatkins2464Amazon & ebay have much cheaper mini split options. 😉
Take a look at what MJ Sailing did (youtube channel). They got a tent garage rented up north and then spent over 2 yrs in the tent, building the same size Cat. Now they are out of the tent and you may be able to rent that exact tent. So in the summer, the tent shaded the hull so it was easier to work inside of it, especially with a portable A/C unit. In the winter, the tend kept the winter out and again, they could use a portable heating unit. So you might want to have the cat trucked up there and not do the engine compart first. If in Florida, try tenting the cat over head at least and then use a portable a/c unit inside. The tent will keep the sun from baking the cabin- top. You could do that for about 3 to 5 months, while the rest of the year will not be that bad to work in. Also note that us Floridians get use to the heat when you are in it for a while.
MJ are in Annapolis with cold wintwrs. Florida not so cold but heat is a problem
@@peterramsden2 The heat can be mitigated. Besides, the longer you work in it, the more you get use to it. Just like people do in the winter up north. I can't stand working in weather below 60F but willing to work in heat over 90F like I've been for several months each year.
Great work even I, in Australia, am excited for you, that's how endearing you've become, Im jealous, Id love to be down among the dust. you're either freezing in snow and ice doing boat repairs or sweating in humidity and heat doing boat repairs, it appears there's no happy boat repairs in a temperate climate. That project is really very good, it's the perfect project. That's going to be a terrific boat. Except now you've become catamaran people you'll have to learn to not talk to anyone or show friendship in any way or else you'll be kicked out of the catamaran society and exposed as normal people. We loved our catamaran, I was sad to sell but age does weary and the years do condemn. You're both very decent people. Great work.
Shucks man, parley revival is about as friendly as you can get.
Questions about the upcoming refit I would like to see answered: 1. Are you considering retrofitting the engines you have to the newer hybrid configuration? 2. Since you need a new mast thingy anyways, are you considering going with the new Selden Tall Rig setup? follow up, did any of the original sails survive in a useable state? 3. Can I have a wombat? (ok, fine. it was worth a shot!) 4. are you planning on any significant changes to the exterior of the boat aside from the new hard dodger? 5. If you aren't going to paint the hull blue, which is the awesomest and bestest boat color, why not??? 6. Coppercoat again, or something else (maybe ablative pistachio pudding?) 7. did the mast boom survive? it looked like it may have been there in some of the earlier Bryan sailing videos but it seems to have disappeared later. 8. Is Antares reaching out to you to help out with anything?
And 9. Will Eva find the glory in sanding?
If they were considering going electric this mights be the time. I’m sure at least doing a cost comparison between all the replacement motor things and a new electric setup wouldn’t be amiss.
if you sail globally, EV propulsion is a very, very bad idea. your life depends on those engines. you need engines that are extremely reliable and can be easily repaired or replaced in third world ports. ideally you want to have the most common marine diesel engines used all over the world.
@@jskidpatrolI will be glad when the work starts. There is way to much talking going on right now at this stage. I mean I wait a whole week to watch this rebuild but only get a 22 minute video of just talking, I can get that from watching the news 😂
Just complaining not hating, I love Mads and his wife 🇺🇸🙏
Carefree is the luckiest boat in the world to become adopted by Mads. I had watched Bryan's channel since it began, alongside Teal, Colin, Rosco, Raff & Sasha, and OGS and I know I will be waiting excitedly for all updates on this new Sail Life adventure. Congratulations.
Advance Congratulations! Your retrofit of Athena got me through the pandemic. Now, I can enjoy years of O glorious everything. Always watching from Siargao Island, Philippines.
That is a long way away :) Thanks for the support all these years!
Have you considered getting some clear plastic sheeting and making a paint “booth” underneath the boat? It would help to control the dust and the bugs
Nothing quite like working dust free in a plastic sheet tent in 36°C with 90% humidity. I know because we had 38°C when we hauled out.
@@philgray1023 humidity is bad for spraying paint as well, at least for clear coat.
I've been watching your channel since the beginning with Athena. Unfortunately, over time my attention fell away once you were underway with your travels. But now, I'm back and once again looking forward to a new and exciting DIY adventure each week. You are an inspiration ...
It's funny to hear there are others with same exact thoughts of this channel. I was away for over a year (because the sailing is not why I'm following this channel) and now I came back because of the new boat and the ensuing sanding.
I haven’t been this excited for a catamaran rebuild series in a long time. Leeeets go
The best time to work in a Florida summer is midnight to 8am. By Midnight most of the afternoon thunderstorms are over and the temp. is bearable.
Congratulations on Finally owning the Boat... Happy that I'm guaranteed a few years of 'oh glorious sanding' videos!
Mads and Ava I stumbled onto your videos with Oblix some years back and thoroughly loved each and every episode. While watching you two enjoy the fruits of your hard work by cruising, I'm so excited to see how you resurrect this catamaran. I think you are one of the hardest-working guys around. I am sure many people out there rebuilding boats look to your channel and videos to learn the correct way of completing a project. Your meticulous attention to detail sets you apart from the rest. Good luck with the rebuild. I know I'll have a couple of years of mighty fine entertainment of the highest caliber available. Cheers
Very happy you guy's were able to make it happen. And yes it will get "cooler" in a few weeks. 78 year old, born and raised in Miami, Florida
Oh glorious clean-up.
Watched Brian get this hunk so it could float then watched him gear it up and move it to that yard. Watched him go from happy to be working on the boat to working But none too happy. I'm amazed he got as far as he did with it and I'm happy that you got to take over this hunk of excellence.. I'll be watching. And I'll keep watching Brian on his next adventure..
I think Brian's work on the hulls is not that bad that it needs to be redone. Repairs on the hull's side would not get that massive amounts of UV, based on video above. And tanks can be inspected with camera, no need to cut the bulkheads.
Brian must also be glad to pass the boat to capable hands. I’m from Florida and make sails and canvas and completely understand when you have had enough of the heat you have to move on. When you get the boat mobile I would suggest somewhere a little cooler maybe the Chesapeake. I have worked here 30 years and it’s gotten hotter or I have gotten older or maybe both. Love watching your digital skills. I am mostly analog so I have learned from your digital skills.😊
As a Canadian, who loves the winter, I can attest to the fact that FL does in fact become comfortable (and I have been there when it snowed). My family lives in FL and I know what you are going through - I hate visiting in the summer, it is unbearable. Air conditioning is essential during the summer.
I think they might need to rig up a set up like Sailing Uma have in their Italian boatyard rebuild .. part of their problem was what the temperature and humidity was doing to their GRP and epoxy work.. working and setting times.
You're not a maroon or a moron. You're doing amazing! Thanks for sharing your hard work!!
As another person who didn’t do well in FL’s hot humid summer heat, it does get quite lovely there during the winter months. I’d say it’s more 5-6 months of gross hot sticky sweaty weather, with a delightful winter that feels like an enjoyable Oregon coast summer.
Congratulations on your purchase. I very much enjoyed Bryan's journey obtaining and repairing the boat. I think his videos and background will be helpful. I can't wait to see how you proceed.
I Always sand primer. Really pleased you can progress.
There are primers that doesn't need to be sanded IF within a certain amount of time the top coat is applied, as specified in the datasheets of the primer.
@@evilla7579 it will depend on how it’s applied. Also how good you are.
@@steptoediy8935also the environment that one is painting in. This one is not optimal I would say. 😅
I can't tell you how excited I am for this project. Best of luck in your new adventures.
Thank you so much 😊
Oh glorious sanding! I've wantched every episode and now definitely watching probably the next 4-5 years worth 😊
Good luck guys and can't wait to see the finished results.
Im also a long time viewer and am so thrilled to see you two aquire this project. Having had a stroke 11 months ago, my world has been turned inside out but i am working hard to regain function. Not sure if ill survive long enough to see the completion of this project, but its a goal of mine. Cant think of two more deserving people than you to have such a wonderful oppurtunity. Sure will be spiffy when shes done.
Glad you got the paperwork and the finalization of the purchase. Hope you got your ad revenue issue taken care of too. Split AC heater would work for you during the refit. Wish I could be there to help! On an added note, here is hoping Bryan still has his nifty CNC he built still available. That was very helpful for him with the work he did.
The ad revenue thing cleared up recently. So they're off and running!
Congratulations on the fantastic catamaran. What a project! We are particularly pleased about this, as Ava's first visit on a catamaran was on our Suria in Brest/France. It was really great to meet you there.
Best wishes from Greece and happy sanding, Ricci & Dirk, SY SURIA ⛵️😃
Big welcome back to the wife unit, Ava 🥳 ! Happy that the purchase process is now in the past. Let the oh glorious boatwork begin!
Woo hoo! Thank you 😊 and thanks for the support!
I watched all of Brian's channel and was sorry to see his ambition scuppered by life events. But oh joy, you've taken the baton and will run with it and I'll get to see another pile of GRP saved from land fill. The fact that this is certainly the start of an epic bout of oh glorious sanding is the icing on the cake. Hoorah!
Good for you guys but good for us!!! I absolutely love watching you work. It’s the highest level restoration on UA-cam.
I watched your channel for years and thought I'd seen the last of you two after you set sail for the US. And now your'e back with a new project! Wonderful for me and us armchair boat restorers. Thank you so much for sharing your adventure.
Good on you guys! Even the clean up and organization will be very rewarding as a start!
Hopefully the rebuild goes smoothly and doesn’t hide to many problems
I just loved to see the positive support from Ava to this project, you will succeed together, all the best❤❤❤
You now own it. The clean-up looks good. You and your partner appear more organized and focused than Brian. Who had big plans and got derailed. The boat was slowly consuming him.
But you have the advantage of the major holes, cracks and repairs are done. The boat's shape and structure are there. Now it's decisions on interior vs exterior vs weather. Post Covid, supplies are more available.
Should be interesting to see your vision, process and timing compared to Brian's.
Congratulations and I’m excited to watch the progress.
Hey Mads - any chance of getting the boat moved within the yard putting two 20 foot containers (one on each side) and using the roofs of the containers to construct a frame for shelter over the cat? The containers could of course be used for storage of parts and the other for rebuilding materials.😀👍⛵️
I can honestly say I’ve never been so happy to see a new project begin. Looking forward to years of oh glorious sanding!
The bit about your newest sander, the “wife unit” was hilarious! 😆 I literally laughed out loud. 😂😂
Well done. So glad you are the new owners. Looking forward to future videos!
Congratulations on the new project! I’m excited for you & Ava on this next step in your life. I enjoyed seeing the flashbacks on the boat’s damage, and Brian’s work on repairs. Any chance you could show some pictures of the boat when it was in its prime? Love your channel😊
OMG! A spiffy Sunday and what a great project it is going to be. Many congratulations on this purchase - that's me hooked again for another few years even my wife unit enjoyed this video so you are both honoured 😊
Yes, sand the primer. Obviously, if you top coat over rough primer, your topcoat will reflect the substrate lumpy condition. Primer on cars in body shops is usually sanded to a 400 or 600 grit finish before applying the color.
Congrats, I find myself looking forward with great anticipation to the “oh glorious sanding” and the very “angry pixies” 😂
I could just see your shared frustration around the new boat. Congratulations on the new project and I look forward to watching while you work. Lastly, you didn’t get your subscriber base by doing a bad job, they watch to see someone passionately do the best job they can. Keep it up!!
As far as the roller is personal preference. If you search a little more you can find foam touch up rollers for the small handle.
I've worked outside in FL for most of my life. You just have to kind of surrender to the heat and your body will adapt. Wear a hat and STAY IN THE SHADE. You need to create shade for the boat if you have any chance of surviving the heat. A/C is great but its tough on the body moving in and out of it all day long. You either need to be in it or out of it but if you can stay in the shade and get the air moving its quite tolerable. I'd suggest looking into one of those Carolina Carport type structures that can withstand winds and are reasonably priced and can be installed quickly. Even one of those heavy duty canopies that stretch between two cargo containers might work well and would provide needed storage. I'd stay away from those cheap tarp and pipe type canopies, they are flimsy and will not tolerate the sun or wind long term. One way or the other if you are going to stay in FL, you've got to get out of the sun. Looking forward to see how you go!
Some folks are 6-foot paint job type of people, so sanding the primer is not seen as necessary; the surface is still protected and looks fine from 6 feet away. You on the other hand are a 1-foot über-spiffy paint job type of guy and why we admire your work so much. If you weren’t nautically inclined, you would fit right in with the classic car set!
Congratulations Ava and Mads, what a marathon project.
Don´t forget to make some sailing in Athena!
Just to mention my experience with the " weenie and jumbo weenie frames and roller covers"
Early on the jumbo weenie frames and covers were what was available, and what I used. Slowly the jumbo weenie rollers were less desirable than the weenie rollers and phased out , except for the fact that some ppl still wanted to use what they had learned were a Superior roller (for tight spaces) than the traditional roller frame and cover. And they still had the jumbo weenie frames and kept asking for them from thier local paint supplier. The argument can be that they hold more paint , but I honestly believe the paint suppliers just keep a few of the jumbos alive just to try to make everyone happy. My solution is ,I have two jumbo frames and 10 + weenie frames. But I'm with you. Good luck on your project.
Looks like a trip to the scrap yard is in your future. I know Ava is just pumped for cleaning out everything too!
Sanding primer? 100%. The primer I just used for a restoration project actually states "Wet Sand before top coat for best results". I did exactly that with some 400Grid Wet sanding and the top coat was smoooooooooth as a baby's butt!
As for Florida Weather...It's 12 months of h3ll compared to what you dealt with back home.
Roller sizes? Got me. I've got small trim roller frames that can do the large or small 'hole', and yea. Same goes for that stupid tray. I end up using my large paint tray liners for them because somebody had to make their own 'thing', probably to get around some patent or another. My only guess as to why there are so many sizes/mounts now...getting around some trademark or patent.
I've been following Bryan sailing
Im so glad you guys bought this bought and I really want to see it on the water.
Let’s gooooo!!! New project time. Wishing you all many happy years of spiffy DIY ahead.
Greetings from South Africa to all....coming to ....enjoy watching this adventure from this point onward....and all the comments
Consider installing an inspection port on the top of each of these bilge area fresh water tanks. The access panel in the sole of the head may be a challenge, but you are up to anything Mads!
Considering the crazy FL weather, any tent you put up should be able to be taken down rapidly to preserve it in the event of HIGH winds. Yes, yes. I realize there have never ever been HIGH winds in FL, but ya never know.............. KEEP UP YOUR OH GLORIOUS SANDING !!!!
Awesome! Congratulations on the new diy boat!
I live near Tampa so I understand boat work in the heat. Shade and high velocity fans. Small squirrel cage fans for inside the boat, and a large36” shop fan for working outside. Might not be great for microphones, but it helps a lot when you’re soaked in sweat.
I am excited about yall starting a new project!!
always sand primer, you should also dust it first with black paint, this will allow you to see exactly where you have sanded
Congratulations on boat purchase!
Paint roller handles are threaded, so as to take a standard broom handle. And, of course, there are telescoping paint handle extensions that are used when painting ceilings.
I found, though, when last applying bottom paint, that adding a simple 30-40cm extension is very helpful. Gives you a lot more reach, when painting, but not so long as to be clumsy while you're crawling around under the boat.
Congratulations - I look forward to the glorious sanding.
October-March are absolutely paradise in Florida.
I presume, the wider roller allows for thinner foam on the roller. Also it has a wider pressure area, probably good for something :)
Congratulations and all the best to you both. I’m sure you will get the boat back to where it needs to be. Onwards and upwards 👍👍👍👍👏👏👏👏
....Paint music, Yay, great memories!!!!
puh thats a big elefant! love you optimism! looks like a lot of boatwork fun!
I knew I recognised that boat the second I seen it , I watched Bryans episodes and then they just stopped . glad to see the project had been taken over and we will get to see her sail again !
Hi Mads! Glad to see you are back at a new project! Can’t wait to follow you both in this adventure this time 🎉 and to those people who feel like sharing THEIR thoughts on what they think is the best way forward for you, do please ignore them. And yes, you people who think you alone know what’s the right way concerning boat work, you really need to just zip it. You are not the expert on stuff that has multiple ways of doing it. There are many ways forward - also concerning what products you use. So people, let Mads make up his mind and please spare us yours ✌🏻Mads and Eva rock!
Here we go, it’s going to be a great ride. You guys are a great team and with the talent Mads has & the drive & encouragement Ava has, the end result will turn out better than the original boat was. Happy days.
Catamaran secured. Ava is back. This is a GREAT day! 😁
Great to see the project begin. My addiction started watching you fix up Athena along with Tally Ho. Most of the projects I've followed since are now back in the water so your timing couldn't be any better! I am looking forward to the big tidy up followed by regular sanding updates! Congratulations on the purchase and all the best for the project!
I loved watching you with Athena and marvelled at the amount of work you did … but I have to say that you two are absolutely crazy to take on this project…. And I’m an expert on crazy! I know I’m an expert on crazy because I’m TOTALLY going to be here with you every step and every worn out sheet of sand paper … so, to coin a phrase- c-ya!
I’m so happy for you!!!!! Congratulations for your acquisition, and i’m so impatient too see the continuation of this project!!!
On the aircon: considering that split aircon setups are wildly more reliable and efficient than a portable unit, you could always look into a caravan/campervan style split unit?
I'm not sure how long it'll hold out compared to more marine oriented aircons (since salty air prolly won't have been a consideration in the campervan types) but it'll probably be cheaper and should still work like a charm.
as for mobile vs caravan style split types. the price is usually comparable, and the performance of a split unit is almost always tons better (and they tend to be more energy efficient). so if their lifetime at sea is comparable to mobile units, it's deffo worth considering skipping a mobile one and going for a caravan/campervan style window unit.
I don(t have personal experience though, so best to ask around with other sailors that have had aircon units, see if they suggest going straight to a marine oriented one, or if a normal works holds out just fine.
target runs and kisses....that was the funniest and cutest!
2 other recommendations. 1st.... Rent a 40ft shipping container, preferable an insulated one with a side door. Of course you'll want to have it placed bext to the cat, with side door facing the cat and barn doors towards the bow. You can then run power to it and have it next to your cat. Then install a portable A/C unit inside of it, with a workbench in the center and shelving that you could buy on marketplace that could be run on all remaining interior walls on all side of the workbench, from floor to ceiling, to literially have a storage unit/workshop next to your project boat. There you can remove all of the items and clutter stored inside of the boat and carefully label and organize them on the shelving. That way, you'll have the ability to completely clean out the boat, scrubbing it from top to bottom, to truly see what you are working with and have room to work in those areas. I would pill all the wiring, hoses and plumbing out of the boat, salvaging only items that can be restored as almost new and pitching all wiring and hoses. I'd remove all thru-hull fittings and valves, sand and epoxy paint all the bilges that they live in and then replace them with all new bronze thru-hull fittings and valves. Then pull what tanks you can, restore them, clean and epoxy pain the in that area before re-installing them. Oh yeah, the list will be growing daily for you!
After clearing the debris from the deck and surrounding area, you may want to build a ribbed shed for sun protection and the Florida heat. You probably have seen the one on the tally Ho channel a few years ago.
Maybe a better shed would be similar to the one made for the Duracell project. Even if it was somewhat portable you could move it over the position you were currently working on and not need a 50 foot one.
You’re right, Tally Ho and Duracell are single hull and shorter so the design would have to be engineered , modified and enlarged. Yes it would be a considerable project in itself, but I think would be worth it in the long run.
MJ Sailing have a tent/shed to build their cat in
No way. Work on the outside when cooler, inside when warmer. Use the savings in time and money to Insulate. insulate, insulate. And insulate some more. Mesh truck tarps last forever, are affordable, do not trap the heat inside, could care less about the high wind and provide a good amount of shade. I use the "LeavesShade" brand. Some of mine have been continuously in the elements for over 5 years . Do not forget to insulate!
@@martinbeaumont1135 But not in Florida, MJ is further north, where some climate occurs.
love the building content as opposed to the travel content. This project is perfect for you and Ava.
Congratulations on the Cat! Will look forward to more of your epic adventures rebuilding this ship aka new home!
Congrats guys! So great meeting you last week
I think you will bump into a few surprises like the paint roller while in the USA.
Why do they use phillips screws? Because Henry Ford got into an argument with Mr. Robertson.
Why do they use the imperial system instead of the Metric system? The USA got into an argument with the French...
And on and on... LOL
I still think this is a crazy project but if anyone can tackle it, it is you two.
A window type air conditioning will save your life in the Florida heat.
And yes, sanding the primer is a thing, preparing the surface before painting is 90% of the end result, unless you plan on applying non-skid paint. 🙂
Looking forward to the next video!
Hi Mats, congratulations on your new catamaran. I will continue watching your videos every Sunday for many years with this new exciting project.
Oh Boy --lots of oh glorious sanding and playing with lots of itchy sticky gooey stuff, should be very interesting, lots of fun. Glad you snagged one of the remote filter masks, that's going to be a game changer. Have you decided on a boat name yet?
So glad for you guys and excited to see how you will transform it and bring it back to life! ❤
I would suggest leaving the hull area, where you were working, unfinished. You basically have a paint and prep booth, right there. It's the perfect areas to use for any and all your painting, to stay out of the Florida sun.
That's very exciting to see another boat getting some love from you ❤ good luck with the project 😊
Suggest using a large window AC unit coupled to metal ribbed flexible ducting that can be moved through the boat's work areas to provide cooling.
wow great work team keep them coming !!
Mads your standard of workmanship is just amazing so everyone has absolute confidence in your work skills and ability to complete this to a “spiffy” degree/ quality. Of course endurance is already part of your background proven by the previous refit, well done and I certainly look forward to seeing the transformation take place. You have intestinal fortitude!! For large projects. 😎😎and Ava to back you up.
Do what you can do. Forget the rest!! You all are living your best life, not someone else's.
I hope you accept some volunteer help. I cant wait to see the clean up and work get under way.
Oh my God! What an unbelievable undertaking 😮. BUT I’ll delight and enjoy every segment of the refit. You guys will help me get through the next 7 months without a boat to sail in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan. Enjoy Gallivant Catalina 36 Lake Michigan Escanaba Jim
Spiffy.... love it!
really looking forward to this! also a suggestion (if i may...) right before the, "see you!" part of the video add in a few seconds for... Danish word of the day! i'd enjoy that.
It’s been awhile since watching the refitting of Athena. Now I’m Looking forward to another refit…this is going to be great. 👍😊
I just got back from Florida where I purchased a 1976 WS 32. I’m looking forward to watching because I’m gonna hopefully pick up some tricks in helping me get mine ready to set sail as well.