Thrustmaster T LCM Pedals - Review
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- Опубліковано 12 лют 2020
- Thrustmaster has stepped into the modern era of sim racing equipment. They have now introduced their first load Cell Pedal set for sim racing. This pedal set can be a stand alone USB pedal set at 16 bit on the PC. It is also Xbox One and PS4 compatible when used in 12 bit mode and plugged directly into a Xbox or PS4 Thrustmaster wheelbase.
The pedal set is now available for only $200 and can be purchased at Thrustmasters Amazon store here: fcld.ly/tlcm3
In this video Shaun Cole of The Simpit takes you through the details about these new pedals as well as the process to get them running in game. He also talks about what they are like to drive with and then finishes thigns off with The Good, The not so Good and The Bottom line of the Thrustmaster T LCM Pedals.
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On the "The Good" you should add the Magnetic Sensor for the Gas & the Clutch (as lot of competitors use some potentiometers)
csl elite use potentiometers on gas and cluth right?
@@scrabsdead Yes
Fricking finally! Now I can up my game without breaking the bank! Thank you thrustmaster and thank you for the review buddy!
Without Braking the bank
I was just about to get a T3PA set, to go with my T300RS base, but I think these will be my next pedals.
GregzVR i’ve had the T3PAs and they’re a good place to get started but from what i’ve heard, load cells are much better in terms of getting a more natural feel and building consistency.
If I were you i'd spend €30,- more and get the Fanatec LC
@@Brawlii if he playing on PC, not on consoles.
@William YOUNG fanatec only, or you could buy a 3rd party adapter
LowFast Racing If you get the LC version it comes with a usb cable
Ordered!, and I cant wait till they get here. I had been on the fence about upgrading my t3pa pedals with a load cell mod for a while, so Im glad I waited.
Dude i just put a load cell in today .........Freekin amazing what it will do for your feel of the brake .....Damn ! You gona love them.
I put in a ricmotech load cell a few months ago I should have waited
And ptpracing, do you like Them?
what a great review! so knowledgeable and specific! I just put my order in for the TLC-M pedal set that should arrive sometime in January 2021! can't wait thank you!!
4th review on these pedals this morning youtubers are hot this morning!!! thanks for the review!
Awesome review, as always Shaun.
Great video buddy! Looking forward to hearing more about them in future videos!
Cheers Shaun I think i'll be getting these when they're back in stock, still rocking an old t500rs which i still love.
15:09 Shaun the whole thing inside the pedal set is plastic including the part the pedals are connected to. Barry Rowland on the Sim Racing Garage took the pedal set apart and the Aluminum pedal arms are connected to a plastic chasis via a metal pin.
Not good!
@@Cagefighter what do you expect for a$200 pedal set. They had to make compromise s in places to make it affordable.
@@Steve30x even Logitech g27 pedals have an all-metal construction.
@@bubak44 Even the G27 doesn't have a load cell brake and the level of adjustment this pedal set has. Also the G27 pedal set doesn't come out of the box with the ability to connect directly to USB to a PC. The G27 pedal set uses a potentiometer instead of HALL sensor. The G27 pedal set is not that good quality and no its not all metal. I know I had the G27 pedal set. Its almost all plastic with a few aluminum pieces like pedal faces and pedal arms. Yes the rail the pedals are on is metal but most of the pedal set is plastic with Potentiometer and springs for the pedals.
@@Steve30x i know. i commented only pedals construction material
Awesome review - once again very useful to the community
Great review 👍 you have convinced me to get these pedals as I'm just getting into Sim racing and have my eyes on the ts xw wheel as well and have subbed as well.
Thanks for review, ordered it just now after your video :D
Very nice video! All my questions were solved! I was just about to get a csl elite lc but ths defenetily changed my mind, Ill wait till March 26 impatientlly!
I currently use a TMX Pro which includes the T3PA pedal set.
I'm due for an upgrade on both wheel and pedal set. I'm looking at TS-PC Racer combined with the T-LCM pedal set.
Problem for me right now is availability in stores over here in Sweden. Expected delivery is in September. I can't wait!
I want to applause to you. I like the way you smile, when you describe the goods. And for me as a non English speaking native you speak very clear so I can understand...
Go on with your channel, you got a thumb and a sub.....
Big thanks for the review. Its my next pedals ;)
Yes you can.
Buy a drive hub
Excellent Review, Sir (loved the sneakers)
Mine came in today, and coming from T3PA pedals (with a ricmotech load cell mod), they are a substantial upgrade
Hi shaun. Thank you for this review. I bought every ricmotech mode for my t3pa pedals and was about to pull the plug on a ricmotech load cell. Once I seen this I couldnt be any happier. By any chance are these plug and play for us users on console, will these work with a tmx wheel? Thanks again.
The metal rods supporting each pedal arm run through plastic and also each time you change a spring you have to calibrate the brakes, i'm not sure you mentioned that. Most pedal plates won't accommodate the hole pattern on the pedal base so drilling is required, TM do have a metal adaptor to mount the pedals but that's sold separately,
The pedals are actually pivoting on injected moulded mounts. Steel faces, aluminium arms, steel pivot pin plastic mounts...
As mentioned the base is all plastic, except the brake fixture. The weight comes from a plastic weight container that has who knows what inside.
Am supriced how good they are! Love em!
Hi shaun! Do you recommend these over the Fanatec V3? They are meant to be plugged in a PC. Thanks
This makes thrustmaster competitive against Fanatec in a long time. High end TM competes pretty decently against entry level fanatec now.
Ts-pc racer (€550) + tclm pedals (200)
Against csl elite bundle (€570) + loadcell kit (€140). Still would go for the fanatec set but it isnt a bad choice buying the TM set.
Dont forget that the tclm uses magnetic sensors on all three pedals, the fanatec csl elite pedals only use them on the brake (if you buy the loadcell kit)
@@stoffl219 True, but the CSL Elite pedals are more configurable (you can remove a pedal or adjust the positioning) and the CSL wheelbase is compatible with the significantly higher quality and more diverse Fanatec rims (and a WAY better Quick Release system).
I currently own a t300rs GT Edition because as a standalone package it's INSANE value, but if I wanted something higher end I'd definitely go for Fanatec.
Great review.. Question: Is it possible to invert these pedals as is using DIY base?
You could neither confirm or deny that you were testing these!!! :-)
love the video, just got mine but no drivers for win 10? just shows "sim pedals" with orange warning where did you get your drivers? can't see any on their web site
Good review, i have a question. Is the Fanatec Clubsport v3 allot better that the Thrustmaster T-LCM? or maybe put it this way, is the 160euro more for the Fanatecs worth it?
Great review Shaun. However, the pedal set connects to the wheel base via a cable with RJ12 plugs, not RJ45 as you and oh so many other reviewers seem to think. 😉
Thank you for the nice review! I'm just wondering if the adjustments you make on pc with the calibration tool work on the console too? Or is this just for use on pc after calibrating and console is still on factory settings?
I just got some of these this week and have been trying to get an answer to that question for days.
Should I use a PC to update firmware then re calibrate on the PC for a PS4?
Or does calibrating on a PC do nothing unless you are gaming on that PC.
Amazon showing a 3/26/2020 estimated availability for a ship date
That bezel mod is really cool 😲
Hi Shaun love your reviews and hot laps Wednesday. Is it possible to get a USB adapter go I can connect tlcm to my G29 wheel base for PS4. I have a ricomotec load cell right which works great , but I’m having issue with accelerator penal.
I like to flip my pedals upside down. I've done it before with the G27 pedals, no problems, they came out of the case. And my current 3TPA pedals too. The clutch and throttle are the same. I just changed the faces and programed them the opposite way.
Is it possible to change the position of the two when opening that case?
Do you think these could be swapped out for g27 pedals without having to drill? (gt omega pro)
Are they really worth it or do I stick to my inverted T3PA pro? I really want a load cell but I like the construction of the pro peddles and I know the fanatec are good but they are almost 200$ more
Very impressive. Thanks a lot.
it’s not 16bit plugging into a wheelbase, the cable is called the RJ12 and it is advertised as 12bits resolution
USB is only way to get 16bit
Am I able to hang mount it and switch the springs in the gas and clutch?
Fantastic review, as always! I have just ordered the pedals and I am wondering, once I made the initial installation and updates on the pedals and my T300 on a PC, will the pedals also work on a PS3 (when plugged in via RJ45)?
I want to know that too! Have you tested it?
@@Hummtaro one day after my post I got a message from the supplier that they are out of stock and so I cancelled the order. In other words I haven't even tried T LCM pedals. Sorry bro.
I play at a desk and my current G27 pedals are up against the wall and on a rug. Currently, I do not have any issues with them lifting/sliding.
That said, I would really like to upgrade my pedal set and was curious if this set or any other load cell (like CSL Elite LC) would be ok without being mounted to a wheel stand? Would mounting to a piece of MDF suffice?
Great review Shaun. For sure a solid and cheaper alternative to Fanatec's CSL line.
Hey Shaun, could you please do comparison review or tell me which one you would get out of the CSL elite pedels with load cell or the new loadcell pedels from thrustmaster.
Thank you :)
the fanatec are all metal construction so the choice is obvious
@@alexb618 don't really care about construction tbh. Want to mainly know which one has the better load cell.
This is the only reason I'll be upgrading form what I have already.
@@alexb618 thats a stupid answer
with Fanatec csl loadcell a 200$ how do the compare to those?
How do these compare to the fanatic clubsport v3 pedals?
So... Is it worth now, buying fanatec v3 ? Exept for the clutch.
Hi Shaun, great review! I'm thinking of getting one but I don't have a racing rig. Does this work without one? I have the G29 pedal set and it is not mounted on a rig. Thanks.
They can be placed on the floor. On carpet would be best. Another thing you can do is mount then on a peice of flat wood so that the edge of the wood touches a wall or a barrier to minimize them from moving forward
Special shout out to shaun cole for flying by the seat of his pants😎
Thx for videos. Pls, t-lcm compatible with grid autosport or not ?
Thanks Shaun
guys could you suggest me some settings for the pedal box springs? now i'm trying to use double red spring, both below and above, but i don't know if it's the correct choice.
How interesting.
I was thinking about a loadcell, as I currently use the T3PA pro with an uprated spring and cone. For c £179, not sure if they are better than the Fanatec CSL elite with loadcell.
I also see some on here have seen the review where they show the metal pins for the pedals are housed in the moulded plastics. I guess it reflects the price points, but a metal sleeve or shins could have made it better.
So my 2 Q’s.
1. Is the loadcell worth the upgrade over my current setup
2. This or Fanatec CSL elite loadcell for same price ????
Soulfirer and fanatec does not use hall sensors for throttle and clutch in the csl elite
🤦 ... Except that Fanatec's CSL Elite uses dogshit, guaranteed to eventually wear out and fail (just like everyone's stick drifting joysticks), and old as FUCK potentiometers for the gas and clutch pedals making it a crap comparison. The Fanatec has better build & materials quality, sure, but potentiometers absolutely fucking SUUUUUUCK in both real world use and usable longevity!
Can you configure the pedal connected to the wheelbase?
Hey mate!!! Can you please do a review on these used with the ts-xw racer for Xbox on forza
So i can use this pedals whilst still using my logitec g920 wheel. Just by plugging into back of xbox.
Anyone tried inverting these pedals and using the clutch as the accelerator?
i just got them...
They made me drive those 60s cars without abs :)
Can you use these pedals without a racing rig? On the floor..
Yo yo yo, Are these made out of pot metal? or cheap type metal? or does it feel really solid well made. They are not available here in the west coast USA.
Don't have a competitor? The Fanatec CSL Elite Pedals LC are the same price and are a much better quality. I see these being a good upgrade only for those with TM wheelbases on consoles cause they can't use the USB option.
Galliewok Gaming how do you know their quality is better?
Yes the Fanatec LC's are definitely nicer in the sense that they are all medal. What I'm hearing though is the Fanatec's have potentiometer's and these don't, so these will likely be much more reliable long term. viperconcept has used both and he likes these better.
Fanatec products in Canada with import fees alone make this a great option.
I went the v3 and full club sport set up. Thrust master is a great option in North America.
is it possible to connect pedals via usb to ps4 and use fanatec steering wheel? i have a usb hub but i don't have a drive hub. Thank you
These or CSL Elite load cell?
Just ordered a T-LCM to use it with my DFGT (PC)
Anyone knows if the T-LCM on USB is compatible with FH4 (Forza Horizon 4) (NON-steam)?
Also would you use this upgrade path when starting with a DFGT OR going first to a T300RS GT (with the inferior 3PA)?
had to send mine back only two pedals recognised with r 45 lead into wheel,also win on load up did not see wheel asking for drivers ,thrusty updated drivers for these around start of this year and ruined em!
hello game gran turismo 7 my t-lcm at certain points of the track is failing what could be . I don't know if there are other people complaining but this is happening I've updated everything. can you tell what it could be?
just got these pedals and my racing stand holes aren't compatible, don't have a drill and can't borrow from friends due to quarantine... What gives... = (
Which one spring combination you think is best for Gran Turismo 7...and on what braking force you recommended to play ?
I can't really recommend a combo for you. It really all up to you and how much force you are comfortable with.
@@TheSimpit I watched all your video about tlcm and next i'm go with 2 red spring like you and braking force 70 is factory force.
@@TheSimpit and do you know if i changed the springs combo do i need calibrate again pedals via computer and thrustmaster aplication or i can change them and play.I playing on playstation by the way?
It is best to calibrate everytime you change springs so the game knows what your max braking is.
Why the default value of clutch and gas is not 0.0?
Quick Q - just installed it using PC, with T 300 RS GT - do I have to use the USB cable into the PC, as well as the cable directly into the wheel base to get ultimate definition 16bit? Does it make a difference? Mostly racing Forza 7.
Also how can i tell my wheelbase has recognised the LCM pedals, and doesn't think its the standard set (as warned by the manual)? Thanks ! :)
In the manual it says too to not connect both at the same time, even as a warning.
How do these stack up against the Clubsport v3 pedals? $100+ savings is great, but those v3s are a great set!
I bought these pedals and they are really good. The Fanatecs are better but also much more expensive. Depends on your budget but these are good enough to run in any setup. For sure 10x better then the t3pa pedals.
Clubsport V3 are probably better but also twice the price with shipping.
If i have t3pa pro with brake coanic mod... This upgrade worth IT or not?
Did you upgrade?
TLCM , Brakeforce Settings help.
Hi,
I have set Brakeforce at 0 on tlcm. But i still find it too hard to get desired braking. i would prefer for it to be easier than 0 to get 100% braking.
Is there a way to reduce this below 0 or change any other setting, so i have to press the brake with lesser pressure/force to get up to 100% braking....?
Thanks.
Where did you get those Gulf shoes ?
My question would be for my 200.00 would you recommend these or the CSL elite LC pedals?
Send your money to Fanatec, it's a no brainer.
At times the CSL Elites are on offer for 200 dollars, only get these TM pedals if you play on console
Thrustmaster is ok. Very wonky and loosy products. I have the th8rs and the stiffness of the shifter loosen overtime so there are noticable flaws in their product not worth $150 for such a flawed shifter.
Damien Jimminel but fanatec csl elite uses potis and not magnetic sensors
@@kingcarrot6355🤦 Found the sim-racing hardware illiterate dipshit! The CSL Elite LCS uses dogshit ass ancient and guaranteed to eventually fail ala joystick drift potentiometers for both the gas and clutch pedals!
Thrustmaster otoh uses proper 100% wear free and SIGNIFICANTLY faster/responsive and more accurate magnetic Hall effect sensors in the T-LCM's gas and brake pedals, AS YOU DAMN WELL FUCKING SHOULD ON A SET OF >≈$200 PEDALS!!!
Only tech illiterate ignorant dumbasses bought the usually more expensive Fanatec option simply for the brand name. Anyone who actually did their basic research realized Thrustmaster had made a much better set of pedals, and usually even for a cheaper price to boot. 🤷
Do you get these pedals with the thrustmaster T300 RS GT or are they different?
I know this is old, but those come with the SIGNIFICANTLY WORSE T3PA's that are like 10 years old at this point.
@@Cooe. Regardless thank you for the comment, my cousin was able to get a wheel with these brakes, and I askes him to borrow it for 2 weeks, and I got it out my system.
Nice review to get started with this one. If I could find out why my Thrustmaster wheel activates buttons by itself then I may consider a pedal upgrade. I've yet to find someone who knows the cause and it ruins online racing for me.
Freaky Leek might have to contact thrustmaster if it’s still under warranty
@@yammmit No, warranty is finished I'm sure, I have had the wheel at least 2 years I think. Hoping someone can point me in the right direction, then I will repair it myself.
@@FreakyLeek Probably the wire or ribbon cable that connects the buttons as the wheel turns.
Thats where I would start looking.
@@thedave7760 Thanks for the suggestion. I did look at that before a long time ago, it looked fine but I did not try replacing it. I had a suspicion that it may be connected to a grounding issue, as it felt like there was a small charge in the frame I had it mounted to before on occasions. Rebuilding a rig at the moment, so will be looking at it again soon.
His cup at that angle just says "the SIMP" lmaoo
Simp: A word used by misogynists, who do not realize that "simp" is not an abbreviation of "sympathy", as a meme to radicalize men who are not yet hateful enough. See also: cuck, normie, NPC.
@@Robstafarian How does someone become as intolerable as you are. Do you need a hug buddy? Pretty sure you can respect women and mention the word simp in a joking way at the same time. You must live an absolutely incredible life if you consider "normie " to be hateful LMAO.
@@Robstafarian wahhh muh soggyknee
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@@Robstafarian incel
cant get them working via usb. ?
Can the clutch be removed and the brake placed into that position? I have zero interest in a clutch pedal. The gas and brake right next to each other squeezes the boys!!!
For my T500, I have a pedal mod from GTPlanet that spans the brake and clutch. Well, what was the clutch is now the gas. It’s got a squeak. I’m looking at these for $230 bucks and hoping they’ll help with braking accuracy.
I went from a DFP, G25, Fanatec Carrera GT3rs v2 with the ClubSport Pedals. The Fanatec killed the G25! Then the T500rs came out and that wheel ruled them all! For a little while anyways lol.
I received my Conical Rubber Brake Mod from Thrustmaster last week. It’s taking getting used to it. It’s impossible to adjust the height once it’s mounted to a rig.
Keep up the great work Mr. Cole, be Blessed!
Where can i find this?
I really don't like the plastic. Is it just a cover? Are the mechanical parts metal at least???
For the longest time I've been looking at upgrading from my Logitech DFGT to the Fanatec CSL Elite series of wheels and pedals. With the release of this pedal set, I'll seriously consider Thrustmaster as an option.
Why would you pick these over the CSL LC? Same price. Btw I use CSP along with a DFGT...works great!
@@chowhar It's a consideration, not exactly a definitive decision. I cant even afford any upgrades right now haha.
Marko Favre then I wouldn't worry about it, you can perform just fine with a DFGT! Depends on your motivation to "upgrade". I'd definitely wait until there are comparison reviews. My friend races real cars as well as sim and he uses G25 pedals witch a mod. He says that's close enough, anything more isn't adding value. So if you're on a budget then I'd be tempted to get a used G25 or G27 if you find a good deal. Decent pedals and wheel that's an upgrade from DFGT and something the fastest simmers in the world use.
Don't buy thrustmaster junk. Fanatec is way better.
@@SIMRIG412 My Fanatec wheel broke in 2 months and their tech support is horrible.
So next stop is affordable direct drive wheel from thrustmaster
That is PC, PS4, and Xbox compatible. I would love to buy the TS-PC but I can't use it on my consoles and PC.
dblvision ts xw is also for xbox
Their brand new ≈11nm direct drive T818 at $650 isn't "affordable" per say, but it IS a great value vs the competition!
Your logo is exactly the same as the high school i went to st paul high school
Can you use these with g920 on XB1?
They have to be plugged into a TM wheel base to work on the Xbox
work wihtout a thrustmaster wheel?
yes, via USB
Its a great price and I may have even gone this route vs the V3s, for price alone and they seem pretty good! Good for Thrustmaster and not knocking my v3s, but they are nearly double the price
actually simgarage broke it down and its not metal at inner attachments of the pedals!...
an adjustable gas strut setup would be nice for the gas pedal. 200$ is a bit of cash. i have the t3pa pedals im not really seeing enough here... maybe theyll be down to 100 on a sale in a year. ?
They should just have two inset bolt holes straight down through the front corners. would look bad at all. you could have caps too. but its whatever, they're fine!
Will this pedals work with Corsa Competezione?
Of course they will.
@@nexus_aor7623 Thank you.
No competition you say !
Fanatec CSL Elite loadcell pedals are 29 dollars more, and is fully aluminium.
Plastic mounted 100kg loadcell, what could possibly go wrong :)
The brake is on metal, the rest on plastic.
@@Moriggia false
This or t3pa pro??
It's not just a plastic casing. The rods going through the pedals are connected to plastic. Barry from SRG shows a full breakdown in his video. He found some flex while driving and thinks it's because of that plastic. I also think it will be worse when you have a rig where the pedals hang over the end, which I think Barry has. If you have one like he has here, it probably won't be a problem. Honestly, I don't think it will matter for 90% of us anyway, be he thought it was the weakest part of the build quality.
I wish they were US$200 here in Australia. They're more like US$330. :(
Are these superior to the t3pa pro pedals?
DRAMATICALLY! And there's no such thing as a "T3PA Pro" it's just "T3PA" (even though they came with your T150/TMX Pro).
These are SIGNIFICANTLY more accurate and responsive thanks to the will never wear out and fail magnetic Hall effect sensors on the gas and clutch pedals. And the load-cell brake pedal?... It's in a COMPLETELY DIFFERENT FUCKING UNIVERSE!!!!
And I say all this as someone with significant experience with all of Thrustmaster's modern 3x pedal boxes (aka T3PA, T3PM, & T-LCM). 🤷
@@Cooe. how do you fix the brake pedal travel? mine is either at 0% or 100% wtf
@@Cooe. I feel like these are a downgrade from the trpa. You can not trailbrake.
@@Brian-cb3ce Either your configuration settings in game or in the Thrustmaster control panel (on your PC) are incorrect, or you have a broken set. 🤷 That's not normal behavior. They should still be under warranty though!
@@Brian-cb3ce My gut says you've got a defective dud that needs to be RMA'd if you've already tried messing around with the configuration settings a bunch to no avail.
Cheers
I like your yellow custardized steering yoke made out of welded bananas; They're wheely a peeling!
Need help! My throttle randomly just stops working mid race. Then I unplug and plug it back in and it starts back up...help (I’m on iracing)
You may need to contact Thrustmaster with your problem - Dave Blair had a similar issue, and he had to ship his pedals back to Thrustmaster for repair. Good Luck!
Great peddles but one "CON" that I would say is that they need to be bolted down. They will tip forward when using the brake if not mounted to something.
Using load cells without a rig is stupid af