Fix & Replace: Broken Faulty Toilet Syphon: Will not flush: How to DIY
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- Опубліковано 7 вер 2024
- FOR DIY entusiasts and those who like to save money.
I AM NOT A PLUMBER.
Faulty syphon was a "Twyfords" design.
Replacement system is from "Fluidmaster" and is a "Cable Dual Flush Valve for toilet cistern with Lever activation and a 400UK inlet valve".
I AM NOT A PLUMBER.
I am simply trying to put out information to show how easy this process is. When looking for information on this process myself, I could only find vids on "close coupled systems" and I wanted to show how easy it is to repair this type of toilet set-up and maybe save you money if you end up in the situation of your toilet not working properly.
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Thanks so much from a single woman who likes to tackle all the diy herself , thus saved me a plumber xx
Thanks for this video! I got the very same one from B&Q this morning and now my cistern is working fine, no leaks. Thank God there's people like you so I can save a fortune on a plumber! :))))
Thank you for posting, the first how to fix flush problem videos on here were American, so it was a completely different toilet system they have. So I googled British toilet flush fix and your video came up. Mine is the same set up as your old system and the flush has completely gone, cannot afford a plumber so this is a huge help. I can't thank you enough!
Thank you for the lovely comment. I am glad the video has helped you out of a fix. I know that tight finances feeling only too well, so if this helps you out at all, then you have put a smile on my face. :D
I'm off to screwfix in the morning to get the parts for having a go at this. It all looks fairly straight forward. What worries me is the 68 thumbs downs (unforeseen circumstances perhaps?). I will let you know tomorrow afternoon how I get on! Thanks for posting this video in advance.
I just had a look at the toilet. The inlet pipe looks the same, so the ballcock will be easy enough to replace. The outlet pipe is different though. It has one massive pipe going through the bowl that I cannot see. Is there any help you or anyone else might be able to provide? Thanks.
(contd.) Pulled syphon out again. I hadn't taken quite enough off flushpipe; it should be very slightly higher than cistern base (?). The screwed flushpipe connector & its (perished) tapered washer needed replacing; 2 quid from Plum Center. While messing about, I fortunately found remains of the diaphagm firmly wedged at the inlet to WC pan so fished it out. Bunged it all back together again. PERFECTION: at least 50 quid, better flush, much quieter, saves water, happy wife. THANK YOU SO MUCH !
Thank you for this. We are pensioners and had just been quoted £180 to replace our siphon (because our 1960's system is archaic, apparently). With this very clear instruction, and our ratchet spanner we are confident we can do this ourselves.
+Chrissie Linnit Best of luck Chrissie. Sounds like (age wise) you had the same sort of system that I replaced. Best of luck my friend.
Squidgybidge, I am awful at DIY but managed to fix my toilet due to your fantastic video! Thanks so much. I changed and upgraded the syphon on a close coupled toilet. I had to keep running back to the living room to check the next step but managed to do it with only 1 leak which I sorted with PTFE tape. Keep up the good work my friend! And thank you very very much! mark.
Fab cheers! Just watched a tiny bit of this...then changed my syphon all by myself. Clear and straight to the point. Only problem was finding an appropriate wrench!
Very happy that my wee video has managed to help you out. Well done you for actually doing it too. :D
What a great video whats even more amazing is that you plumbed with one hand and filmed with the other. You are legend :))
Thanks for taking time to create and post this video.
Cheers mate, I'm a complete DIY novice but feel confident to have a go at this after watching.
thank you sir, you are the unsung hero of men. Today, I become a man. I learnt to fix the syphon bit. The metal rod broke and the pin connected to that went inside the syphon tank. I couldn't pull it out manually. Only way was to open it up and push the pin back up. Made a new metal rod and put it all back together. FELT GREAT. THANK YOU AGAIN SIR, YOU ARE FUCKING LEGENDARY!!!!
I second what Loobsy1 said, thanks for this useful video, the diaphragm broke this morning and then saw your video and went out to buy the same system, only difference is mine is a side fill. Took me a lot longer but still finished it and with thanks to you saved on a plumber. Thanks again :)
You are welcome buddy. I'm just glad my little vid is helping people out. Glad you are up and running again. 😃😄
Cheers for taking the time to help others, no worries about the small technicalities you were off on, I got the gist and it was a great help. Ta
Just replaced the syphon and inlet valve on my close-coupled toilet after watching your excellent step-by-step video.
Faultless!
I now feel like a D.I.Y. GOD!
Thank you so much.
BTW I bought the kit in B & Q.
Great Video! Liked. I work as a maintenance guy (not a qualified plumber, but I've worked with a few). Most amateurs get in trouble on 2 fronts. A. Don't have right tools: For this job you need an adjustable wrench (to open big nuts) and a flat head screwdriver (minimum) - I have mole grips (locking pliers), thin-nose pliers and wd40 in my toolkit, too to release stubborn nuts. B. Don't understand what washers do. The big black washers (that SB shows u in this vid) are crucial to stop leaks. If you're a beginner, I recommend photographing their position in situ, so you KNOW where there need to be, BEFORE you re-tighten. Checking for leaks AFTER assembly is what a real pro will do... Good luck and don't be scared. SB is saving homeowners at least £80 (in UK prices) by replacing the syphon, handle and inlet valve here. Well done! PS: Inside syphon is a kind of diaphram (plastic plate) that wears out over time... This is OFTEN why a toilet becomes difficult to flush. PPS: An adjustable wrench is also known as "a plumbers wrench" (standard equipment for ALL plumbers)!
Many thanks for this video.After watching it gave me the confidence to have a go myself.It really is as easy as you make it look.Great to have a Loo that flushes properly again.
Cool. Glad the vid helped you out.
I done mine after having a rubbish flush for over a year and it's such a great feeling doing it yourself.
My tips are to keep some old bath towels at hand as I had 2 BIG leaks before noticing. I had forgot a rubber seal and place all your old rubbish bits in empty bath or shower tray out the way to give you space. Good luck to everyone who has a go!!.
5tu4rtyb0y77 Excellent tips bud and yes it is a great feeling doing it yourself.
Nice video, I have this to do on a close coupled set, this confirms you don't need to change like for like. Thanks.
Glad it helped
Enjoyed your tutorial, very helpful. My, hasn't technology moved on. Will now change my syphon with confidence. Thank you for your time and effort bringing this video to us.
You are very welcome. I am just glad my vid was somewhat able to help you. Cheers.
Thanks a mil! I was just saying to my husband that all the videos I'd watched were just too wordy and basically not helping me; then I watched your vid and I think I get it!!! Off to the DIY center for the parts!! THX!!!!
Great advice. Changed mine yesterday took just over 2 hours but am a slow worker and had rusted screws etc and the close couple wing nuts had corroded. It works brilliantly and thanks for the advice on the fluidmaster, well worth it
+Malintrepid22 You are very welcome
Man, i hate plumbing...when I tackled this job a few years back, I got the bright idea as I was reconnecting everthing to peak over the top and crack on the water slowly to see if the water would flow before the final connections...don't know about there, but here the water is under prettty good pressure and there is no "slow flow"...it shot up and nailed me between the eyes... the only good thing was my wife laughed uncontrolably for about 10 min....humor escaped me at the thime :D...Jim
Cheers for the walkthrough. It was a handy thing to watch before I did my patch repair on the old syphon on a Sunday evening (duct tape to patch the diaphragm - not ideal but it should last until I can get the new innards next week).
Very useful! Installed this with side entry fill valve (both makes were fluidmaster) using the video and it worked!! Thanks for sharing the info.. Saved me some money and learnt something new in the process!!
Nandz87 You are very welcome, glad it helped.
Very very useful video, got the bits, everything fitted, now I have a super deluxe flux saved me hours thanks
Dick Mundy Glad the vid helped out bud.
Great video thanks. Job finished in just under an hour. Hardest part was un-screwing the connector between siphon and pipe to the bowl. Somebody had decided to seal it all up with mastic.
+MeyumeApps Glad it helped
This makes it look so easy. Been having bad water hammer/angry toilet intermittently when we have been flushing for the last few weeks. Ive tried turning water pressure up and down, still does it.
Gonna go looking for new flush, mine looks identical to the one you replaced.
Thank you , made a job which I thought would be hard look easy and i'm supprised at the price of the parts... thanks again
Can you believe it? There is currently nothing wrong with my toilet but I'm here learning what to do in case of that emergency. Well yo never know lol. At least I know what the parts inside are actually called now. My cistern is sitting on top of the bowl so I guess I would have to take it off the wall in order to unscrew the syphon? Thanks for your video, very helpful.
Thanks for making this video it helped alot! I'm also going to try upgrade the mechanisms whilst im at it. Only problem I've had so far is the bolts connecting the flusher tank to the toliet but a hacksaw has sorted that so now need a new close coupling kit also.
Going to be doing this soon, looks really easy and it's the same type of bog that I have. Thanks for the video.
sackmagick You are welcome. Glad the vid was of help.
Thanks very much for this. After watching we were confident to tackle this job and you've saved us a lot of money. :D
You are welcome. I am very happy that my little vid managed to help you out. :D
Ratchety type spanner is a "Stilson" I think - handy hint (again not a plumber) buy your spares from somewhere like Ridgeons (google it for their website) much closer to Trade prices and (at least at ours) excellent advice :)
Brilliant video. Feel that I can tackle this. Am off to buy the relevant parts now. Many thanks.
+Kate Jackson You're welcome. Hope it helped.
had a plumber round quoted a ton plus
went on you tube seen your video went to BanQ got the parts for £15
happy days !!!!! cheers
Thank you. I did it! It all worked out fine, thanks for the guidance. It was easier than I expected - wow, do those plumbers rip us off!
Sorry about the late reply, my computer was dead. You are welcome, glad the vid helped.
To be fair, a good plumber will make sure you have the correct parts (and will source them for you), and will have all the correct tools needed to do this job. Unfortunately, their are rogues out there (that overcharge), then don't fit correctly and test parts after completing the job. How to avoid the rogues? Only use a plumber recommended by word-of-mouth (recent testimonials) and who will give you a written estimate ON PAPER. If the plumber wont put anything on paper (provide a written record BEFORE the job starts) go elsewhere my friends...
Nice One. Without any technical jargon too !
You are welcome. I couldn't give you any technical jargon if I tried too bud as I ain't a plumber, just someone willing to have a go and mad enough to film it as well. Glad the vid helped. :D
Thanks for this which I used on a toilet where the cistern sits on the bowl without a pipe in between. This involved removing the whole cistern to be able to remove the syphon assembly. I like that this fluidmaster means that I can just twist and unclick to replace diaphragms in the future and won't have to take the toilet apart.
Now all I need is to get a good seal on the inlet join...
BTW at around 07:15, you say the height adjustment is very stiff. Not if you slide that grey ring that's under your thumb towards the float it's not. But remember to slide it back into position when you have the float at the right heigh,t otherwise water pressure can force it higher than you want it to be.
Cool glad the vid helped and great info on how to adjust the float to the correct height.
Thanks for this, I don't have a coupled unit (mine is a lot like yours), so this is really helpful for me.
You are very welcome. Yeah at the time I don't think I could find a vid on UA-cam showing a toilet like mine, hence it prompted me to make the vid. Glad its of use to you.
Had to do this the other month, pain in the ass, if only this video was up last month :)
Cheers buddy had a similar problem yesterday,got the bits from screwfix toilet working again.
Excellent---I'm watching in case I have to change the whole dam thing. The handle on mine isn't returning to the top position, so it's not shifting enough water to flush on the down stroke. There's a busted spring lying in the bottom, but the maker's say it shouldn't be there.? I reckon it was assisting the handle to return to the top position. Can't get one anyway. Better watch your vid again.
+Philip Croft Best of luck buddy. Hope it all went well for you.
You are very welcome. Good luck when it comes to doing yours.
very handy i have this type will give it a go
Life saver - very clearly presented
Yes, was quite easy in the end. Many thanks
+Kate Jackson :D nice one
Great video, keep 'em comming. I'm now confident enough to have a go myself. Cheers.
Thanks for da vid very informative. You were right not much vids with this type toilets.. Greeting from Trinidad and Tobago!!!
Thank you very much buddy. Never once did I think my wee video would be of use to someone in such a distant part of the world from me. Glad to have been of some assistance. Slange from Scotland.
Thanks for taking your time to help..
Success!!! Syphon in and working!!! THANKS!
Brillaint vid, thank you! will now take the job on myself!
You are welcome and good luck. I am just glad that in some small way i managed to help. 😃
Scotlands Referendum Debates and Oor Families Thoughts All went without a hitch, very pleased!
Orchy500 Awesome stuff.
Well done mate, excellent explanatory video, Thanks.
You are welcome.
Thanks great video as it's just like mine going to do it myself now.
Brilliant explanation
Brilliant, informaive, really well made
Thank you very much my friend. 😄
Works great!
Love your confidence.
Why thank you.
That's a really good video, i like the way you tell me how long different bits take as that often puts me off attempting things. One thing, is there any 'gunk' i should put down with the seals? with plumbing i am always worried about leaks. What do you think?
Thanks for sharing this!
You are welcome. Good luck when doing yours.
Good stuff... ive saved myself loads of cash
Glad the vid was of help bud.
finally found a toilet like mine :)
LOL. I had the exact same problem, hence why I decided to make my vid. Hope this helps you.
Squidgy Bidge apologies if appearing lazy but could you provide me with a link to the three components that you used please. I actually replaced the guts of our downstairs loo last year with more traditional components and the diaphragm has already failed and the handle is rather wobbly... your setup appears far superior to the parts Gibbs & Dandy sold me. Thank in advance
Many thanks for your video, all sorted
+david smith Nice one.
Great vid thanks just off to buy parts to repair mine
Cool, best of luck.
Squidgy Bidge only difference with mine is cistern sits directly on toilet so I guess I need to remove it from wall and toilet to get siphon out
I've a washdown WC with flushpipe as shown. It's been leaking very slightly for years where the flushpipe meets base of cistern. It also 'sings' intermittently at the end of fill stage. Last week the syphon diaphragm packed in completely; unhappy wife. I saw your vid & bought components as directed and followed instructions. Problem: flushpipe projected too far into cistern & fouled on flush Valve internally. I sawed 35mm off. Everything went smoothly until I noticed a leak later... (contd.)
The jolliest man in the world, has the least amount of responsibilities, and has lived this way for the longest time. That's how the bathrooms in our penthouse have quiet flush electric toilets :)
cheers youv'e saved me a fortune !!!!!!
Thank you Soooo Much! You saved me today!
Cool. I'm just glad my wee video has managed to give you a little help.
superb!
Cool, glad you liked it.
Thanks man. Much appreciated.
You are welcome. Hope it was of help.
Good job and all one handed and woman say we can't multitask ;)
Great Video!
Had no flush, watched the video only replaced the siphon all working no leaks happy days. Best £4.99 spent
All fixed now. Only slight problem is I used the same Fluidmaster parts as you and the flush works nicely but the holding area fills up pretty slow. I did the flush through etc when fitting... Takes around 2 minutes to fill up again?
brilliant, thanks .
Can I leave the water on if I tie the ballcock / float thing up. I just want to replace the syphon not the inlet. It is going to be a big pain to turn the water off
Personally I wouldn't. Too much of a chance of something going wrong and you ending up with a flood. Its just turning one valve normally to stop the water coming into the house. You just need to locate the mains water inlet and the associated valve.
Thank you
Great video! Thanks you! :)
You are welcome, glad the vid gave you some assistance.
Thank you!
You are welcome.
Thank you so much!!
You're welcome. Hope it helps.
***** I would never have said Thanks otherwise. Very good video explaining in Lyman terms. Saved me money, esp. in the new year when money is tight; after the festive season. All the best for 2015
Hey there, I'm just about to order this and attempt the process. I was wondering 'Squidgy Bidge' is it still working fine? I've heard mixed reviews on the quality of the product, I think it's on Amazon.co.uk for £30 which doesn't seem to bad. But I wanna know if yours is still working grand or have you experienced any problem with faulty handle (going loose after a few months) or any other problems since installation??
mine keeps dripping so it goes down the over flow how do you stop that
dude you should be affiliate and put links to items you use in the desc :)
Links used to be there, but Screwfix changed the links address on their site, so I couldn't be bothered keeping them updated. The description of the items is there for anybody to do a search on them and maybe even find a better a deal.
Not interested in affiliating, its not why I have the channel in the first place, but thank you for looking out for me.
One point i must make
You changed a Syphon for a Dump valve they work totally differently
Thank you. I think I know what I'm up against now.
Best of luck with it.
I think I've finally sorted it.
Started by adding an isolation valve so I could take my time. I decided to replace the inlet valve too, as suggested in video, but then thought might as well add a new flush pipe too. I had a tiny drip from where the flush pipe went in so tightened it a bit more, which stopped the drip but and cracked the nut. So I had to do the syphon bit all over again. (as well as repeat isolation valve because that was leaking.
With the money saved on a plumber I have treated myself to a dehumidifier. And I always intended to box in the corner of the hall ceiling where the damp patch (from drippy isolation valve) now is anyway :D
Thanks again.
Nice one glad to hear that you go there.
good video! (y)
lol awesome
Top O tha murning to ya-
He's Scottish, not Irish, you clown !
all you needed to do was replace the syphon flap at the bottom that costs £3
Thank you for the info.
enoch powellsghost Popping in a new cable system makes sense: dual flush, easier to use, and all brand new. For ~ £10 on Amazon
enoch powellsghost
how do you change the flapper valve on such a system
I'm a plumber in Surrey and I would charge £45 to do this not £100
That sounds pretty fair dude.
+Joshua Trevor Are you anywhere near shepperton.
neil
un-loosen !! lol....u mean tighten?....ma maw used to shout at me fr saying that...
damon btc LOL. You got me there!
Hi what do you call the metal piece that's attached to the handle lever ? s16.postimg.org/qh1ig6mo5/toilet.png
Sorry about the really late reply, my computer was dead. Unfortunately, I don't know the name of the part. Hope you got it sorted.
Lol - :)
Thanks for the video!