The True Story Behind the 'Suicide Squad' Director's Cut | David Ayer tells Bernthal on Real Ones
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- Опубліковано 30 сер 2023
- Discover the "Suicide Squad" that David Ayer truly wanted to present to the world. In this exclusive chat with Jon Bernthal, Ayer delves into the heartbreak and challenges of his director's cut journey, and how Deadpool led to it going from a heartfelt movie to a comedy. #suicidesquad #realones #fury #hollywoodmovies
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David what ever you do, DON'T let the version of your film be accidentally leaked onto the internet. That would be horrible, plus Deadpool did that and it clearly didn't work out for them.
What? Deadpool didn't leak the actual movie
It was test footage
And it got the movie greenlit
So both of what u said is wrong
@@TheSoulWithin7i think hes being sarcastic
@@TheSoulWithin7 yes I'm aware it was test footage.
You seem to not be aware of the concept of sarcasm.
@@TheSoulWithin769iq
He will be sued so fast as he is the only person who owns it.
I like how David Ayer originally tried to play the silent humble game and take it in the chin with WB, but now Ayer is speaking up for himself and realizing that closed mouths don't get fed.
I learned many idioms from this comment
That’s a whole fact.
also since gunn is there and told Ayer that it’ll be released
He was a bitch and said there is no directors cut and this is the movie, and he's happy about it, while it was in theatres and was making decent money, while in the same time Snyder was buried by the WB. He was a nice team player for the studio, instead of supporting a fellow director and expose the insane studio interference. He made his bed, now sleep in it! I hope his cut never comes out, just because of him and his weakness!!!
@@Wolfhunter5607 apparently he's telling Ayer that he wants some DC movies to make some scores first, but Gunn has been misleading and dishonest about a few things already, it's either he releases the Ayer cut before Superman Legacy or he's not going to let it happen. I really don't see Gunn trying to screw with his audience during his world building like he got rid of most of the DCEU's interest when they still had 4 movies on their roster.
The fact that WB took a company that cuts TRAILERS and had them cut the entire film BLOWS my mind.
Was a big fan of Fury, I’d really like to see what Ayer’s creative vision was for Suicide Squad.
I don’t understand why they’re talking like Fury was good, it wasn’t. Fury was a fucking cheese-ball mess
maybe the novelization is based on his original script, so that's like getting close to his original version if true.
@@joemammon6149 I've read that novelization, btw. Have you? To be honest, I didn't think it really saved the movie or was a great improvement over what we got. Yes, the tone was less comedic but the same plot problems exist there too. The only real differences I recall were some more - largely superfluous scenes - of Enchantress at the beginning, the Joker and Quinn; but really the biggest addition I recall was many more scenes of the SEAL team accompanying the Suicide Squad; Scott Eastwood's character in particular had a much bigger part in the novelization. If it is any way indicative of that earlier draft of the script - and more accurately represents Ayer's vision - then it's a great disappointment in my opinion.
@@gordoncutter9241 even if the Ayer version was released in theater and was better than the version we got, that didn't necessarily mean a bigger box office return. the James Gunn sequel is better than the 1st Suicide Squad but still performed weakly at the box office.
@@joemammon6149 Yeah, but let's be real here: Even if his cut did get released, it wouldn't be theatrical. It would probably a exclusive streaming deal like Snyder's Justice League.
I wasn't crazy about Gunn's version either, but in his defense that movie did come out during the COVID peaks and the simultaneous HBO Max/theatrical release that Warner Bros was experimenting with at the time to get around it. I'm not saying the movie would have been a massive hit if that didn't happen, but it did impact the final BO.
YOOOO he did training day? And fast and furious 1? An Fury? This is fantastic, apparently I’ve been a fan of David for years without knowing
He didn’t direct training day or fast and furious. He was a writer for both
@@Francescojg Op didnt say David directed those movies, he said Ayer "did" those movies, as in participated in their making.
@@19RaxR91 In that case the comment would be redundant as he's then "been a fan of" about 10,000 other crew members across those said films
@@Francescojg Im not sure that made any sense. Would You please rephrase that?
If we can get the Snyder Cut, we can certainly get the Ayer Cut. It definitely has potential
@@DD-zh4by Wdym remove him entirely? He was still in it, but some scenes were cut, and it doesn't even need to be worked on, they can just release it and that's it. Plus he was redeemed in the Snyder Cut.
I'd be more worried about more screen time for the fresh prince. 😂
I just can't see it ever making a good movie no matter who edits it.
That first trailer released at comic con can still be found online. That was a different movie, there are also snippets of scenes that were cut.
Release it somehow. Internet... As opposed to never getting it. Or waiting 20 plus f _ _ _ ing years!!!!!
I can feel the pain he’s going through. I hope one day he gets a chance to air his cut just like Snyder did with ZSJL. Can’t believe WB execs ruined the career of such a great director to protect their egos so much. For all that talk of for profit most of their DCEU movies post Ayer and Snyder have bombed quite badly
David Ayer will always be a legend made fantastic movies from Training Day, Harsh Times, Fury and many more films. I give you props to talking along side with David Ayer Jon.
Well he didn't make Training Day. But he did write it. Which honestly is the thing right? The script?
@@sij809 you tell me
@@Readus1234 I think it is. Side note: damn this interview was fire
@@sij809 ok
@Readus1234 wait you're not Norman Readus are you????
I would like Bernthal to sit down with Edgar Wright to talk about his missed Ant-Man movie, Plus have Joe Carnahan speak about his missed Mission Impossible movie, Neil Blomkamp talk about his two missed movies Halo and Alien.
Guillermo del Toro with the hobbit and hellboy too
Hell yeah .
but Edgar Wright was never able to do the project at all, didn't he?
I believe Edgar was quit the day before he's do any work for Marvel
After the success of Snyder Cut, I'd love to see his version of suicide squad
Was it a success? I mean financially, for WB.
It was good for the fans, we got the real version of that movie, but they spent a lot of money to finish it and it's not clear if it was a good investment for them.
I'd love to see Ayer's director cut, I'm always intrigued by different versions of movies, especially for movies that studios heavily interfered with, but if they had to spend tens of millions to get it there, like they did with the Snyder cut, it will probably never happen.
@@Ishai1not your money, so why bother about that part? It's about doing a director's work justice.
Ironic because (according to Ayer) the release and reviews of Batman v Superman is what caused WB to take final cut away from Ayer.
really?
@thapanroy3481 it matters a lot. Didn't you watch the video? It's all about money and reaching your quarterly. If that justice movie cost them and didn't earn anything, they won't do an Ayers cut.
As a writer and filmmaker, I would love to work for David Ayer. I am a big fan of his work, its gritty and raw, and his style has no reservations. End of Watch and Training Day are outright gems. Its thanks to projects like Ayer’s work I write screenplays like I do.
It’s a shame that you know there are more people in Hollywood who feel this way or experience it but are too afraid to talk about it because of the backlash. Love both of you guys and your work!
Dint know this guy wrote Fast and furious. Training day and End of watch are two of my favorites movies of all-time. A great writer and director his movies have a realness, roughness and authenticity other directors don't have, you need a knowledge of the streets to portray that dark underworld world in the way he does is something unique and special. I just love his movies and hope he keep working and creating, he and Guy Ritchie have invigorated and modernized the gangster genre
You got to see the movie he did with C.Bale, the MF carries the movie to a new level.
Fury, The Tax Collector, Street Kings. Hell even Bright was aight.
@@OliverCrooks Harsh times with the always fkn brilliant C.Bale?!
“It was never about street racing” - people who enjoy where the fast franchise is going, Ayer researched the culture but cohen didn’t know it was gonna be significant in the movie
I hope his version gets released cause I remember the first trailer for the movie had me excited. The tone of it was great, in my mind at least. Then the 2nd trailer came out months later and I was like what the heck is this....?
Bro, that first trailer was one of the best comic book trailers i've ever seen... the 2nd trailer came out of left field, and the film itself was surprisingly different from what I expected from Ayer, and that first trailer. What a shame.
I’m not gonna lie, that 2nd trailer was just as great as the 1st one but they were clearly 2 different tones for 2 very different movies. Great trailers aside, I wanna see The Ayer Cut
@@notyouraveragebear9326 I wouldn't say just as great (IMO)... but you're right it was definitely a banger, just switched up the tone completely from the epic, dark, sad, beautiful, haunting vibe the first one gave off, and went for a more Guardians of the Galaxy vibe using Queens Bohemian Rhapsody..
I felt like the first trailer was a glimpse of the world, and vibe we can expect Ben Afflecks Batman is going to be dealing with in his own solo movie, and I couldn't be more psyched. Then the movie changed, got over the top jokey, and ridiculous, corny, and we never got Batfleck solo... what a shame. I did, and still do really enjoy Suicide Squad, just expected it to be greatness, and one of the best CBMs.
Gunn needs to give Ayer his blessing and launch his vision the way it was intended. It all comes down from Warner Brothers' executive meddling of the source material they have no idea about. It wasn't fair to judge a movie in BVS (the 2nd in the new DCU) by drastically shifting the tone of the whole potential universe based off some critic shills who were invested in Marvel. If they hire a director to do a film they should trust the director's vision from the start. Release Ayer's vision like they did Zack's. Simple as pie.
It might not be up to Gunn. Gunn has to answer to higher ups as well and as David said, Gunn has to build confidence with those higher ups before he can make more risky moves.
it also might help DC, because right now everythings a shit show. Flash and blue beetle FLOPPED hard. we need something exciting
Gunn will never allow this movie to come out it will completely overshadow all his projects and will increase calls to bring back Snyder and that can of worms
@@Jay-vm4lc The flash was exciting though i thought.
@@DJKeo Never say never
I'm guilty of thinking he ruined suicide squad. I feel for the guy now. I really want to see the cut.
The night and day difference between Justice League and Zack Snyder's Justice League is a huge lesson in both the power of editing and the fragility of geekosphere bias. For years, a good chunk of commentators wrote off a director's vision because it inconvenienced their preordained opinions. Feelings are not facts when it comes to fandom or news. I'll trust a creator's word over a self-preserving studio executive any day.
Yep, you're guilty.
I bet it's just ass bad
Don’t worry. You’re not guilty.
Pretty much every director cut of the Dceu movies is vastly superior than the theatrical release. Watching some of the leaked scenes of the first Suicide squad is intriguing. It's probably still bad with the witch being the ultimate baddy but from the leaked scenes seems more interesting as a whole.
Mr. Ayer has great courage to be so candid and honest about Hollywood
They have to release the Ayer Cut man, let the man finally rest & move on from it, for us fans!
Zack Snyder would also be epic on Real Ones 👌🏼
Snyders cut was still sht, it was just longer
@@vperkv6554
Shame ,that is your opinion and not an objective fact .
snyder cut was good just 4 hours long
@@vperkv6554 I agree, but I'm still glad it happened. I can dislike a director and still think what happened to them from WB was messed up and want them to get a chance to release their version. I at least want to decide if their vision was good or bad for myself. Not take the word of focus groups.
DC didn't deserve David Ayer. Glad that he's now making movies where he gets more control.
#releasetheayercut
U can tell david has been haunted by this. He deserves to have his true vision come to life❤
"Everyone I've shown the cut has the same reaction... RAGE..." #ReleaseTheAyerCut
Man, Fury is one of my favorite movies. That, and End of Watch are so emotionally gripping every time I watch them. I knew 10 mins into the first Suicide Squad that they edited that movie to hell.
*LOVE* how he hit on the "comedy" aspect of superhero movies
Thanks to the multiverses, it's ALL canon one way or another. Anything can come back, literally.
I have nothing short of absolute RESPECT for David Ayer. His work has ALWAYS been above the bar in cinema. It really, really sucks that the execs at Warner/DC didn't allow for the true vision for Suicide Squad. Absolute bullshit. I truly hope that the possibility still exists for the Ayer Cut. He deserves it, the fans deserve it. They were pulling the same shit with Zack Snyder before him. Both of these guys had a unique, darker vision for the DCEU and any negative criticism that they received was completely unwarranted. Also, I'm a massive fan of your work, Jon!! Thanks for this!!
I got 4 days of special skills background from David Ayer's Suicide Squad, I quit my shitty car wash job for it, and it was worth it. I know he'll never see this comment but I'd thank David Ayer if I could. I was privileged to witness a small piece of his actual film, I hope we all get to see the real movie at some point. Cheers.
I need the Ayer cut 4k on my shelf next the rest of my DCEU
Fury was among the best I’ve seen period and it sucks he got screwed by the mess they were making at DC I hope he gets a chance to make a real Superhero movie and just thrash the critics but you can definitely feel the pain in his heart about what happened. Can’t wait to see what he does next! Big fan!
Thank you for giving Ayer this platform to speak the truth🙏🏼 #ReleaseTheAyerCut 💪
incredibly enlightening. Now I want to see Zack on here, I couldn't imagine what the truth really is behind that situation. Imagine if we had really got the Snyder/Ayer built DCEU with all those unique collaborators.
And rick fumayiwa flash movie
The true is Zack is a nice guy but not a great filmmaker, writer especially
@@astralnight3493 No, Zack is a great filmmaker. Even other filmmakers that you most certainly wouldn't question (James Cameron, Christopher Nolan, Chloe Zhao, etc...) have spoken highly about his filmmaking. You sound like a bandwagon jumper that repeats nonsense from the internet and probably think those horrible MCU movies that go against the tone of the original comic books which took themselves seriously are great. They are not. MCU movies are an insult to the source material and are ruining cinema.
Zack did a really cool 2-part interview with the Russo bros. Don't know if you've seen it, but it has quite a similar format to this. Relaxed chat between creative dudes who love the craft of filmmaking. Except, there's more pizza and fewer f bombs.
@@DaRunningMan Christopher Nolan also praises Tokyo Drift lol, and James Cameron's output Post-90s is actually VERY questionable. Also, Zack likes the MCU... he literally just did a thing with the Russos a few months ago and is friends with Gunn (Peacemaker's stunt people were actually recommended to Gunn by Snyder).
It's almost like film is SUBJECTIVE and different people have different views on them. While James Cameron may love Zack Snyder's films, Ridley Scott are Terry Gilliam are known to hate them. While Christopher Nolan is a Michael Bay fan, his own brother (Also a very talented writer) disagrees. The resulting message? Being a good filmmaker does not automatically mean everyone has to agree with your views on film, because even good filmmakers disagree.
Finally, to put my two cents in, I do like Zack Snyder as a filmmaker. He's got a very distinct style. But he wasn't right for Superman IMO. His version of JL convinced me he would've been better at making a Cyborg movie than Superman movies.
Street Kings is honestly one of my favourites of his.
Big David Ayer fan! Have all his movies in my collection. Harsh Times is one of my fav🥳🥳🥳☮️✌🏻
We gotta see David's movie! #ReleaseTheAyerCut
I could tell when I watched the movie that that so much must’ve been cut and chopped. It’s sad to see a directors vision so brutalised.
What did he mean by had the town in my hand can you please explain
@@YasenOdaibat its an expression that means he was an extremely popular and powerful person in Hollywood. He had the town (hollywood) in his hand (meaning he had an incredible measure of control over the town).
Hope that helps
I'm not a movie buff but a lot scenes didn't make sense. The Harley throwing her pudding chain after the jokers helicopter crash made it telling
Hey Jon😊, just finished the full podcast… oh man, by far the best conversation you have had with a guest (friend) to date. David is a complex but very real guy - today more than ever, we need more truthtellers making film like he can
He doesn't mention in this clip that the studio did want more comedy and brought in a another team to re write and help direct, then after the response to the trailer they brought in that team to make the movie more like the trailer. At that point much like Edgar wright's antman David wanted his name taken off but they wouldn't do that in fear it would cause people to not go watch. David had a vision and what we got was 2 bastardized versions of it
If anyone from Warner Brothers is reading this, PLEASE RELEASE THE AYER CUT!!!!!! Everyone wants to see it.
No they don't. Gunn took the property and did a fantastic job.
@@interdimensionalsteve8172
No he didn't. It tanked. It lost $190 million.
BTW, Godzilla v Kong came out 3 months earlier and made $460 million. So no pandemic excuses. GvK and others also had same day streaming release and they made money. TSS didn't. It was a flop.
People want to see the Ayer cut. The theatrical version made $746 million. It was highly profitable.
Count me twice
I would love to see his cut. I really hate what the studio did here. I REALLY hope we get to see his cut someday.
To this day I still occasionally watch the very first trailer released at Comic Con in 2016, and you can just tell it was still early on and Ayer was still in the drivers seat. Once the official first trailer came out, specifically the one with Bohemian Rhapsody, you could just tell that's when the interference started to show. But that very first trailer still gives me hope DC will release the Ayer Cut, just like they did with Snyder. He deserves it. The fans deserve it.
This is exactly as I always interpreted it.
The Comic-Con announcement trailer has a very dark, eerie vibe and fit with the tone of the rest of the movies that preceded it. Then a couple of months later we get the Bohemian Rhapsody trailer and the following trailers set to pop songs and you could tell the producers were attempting to chase Marvel's mainstream appeal.
I'm a filmmaker from his neck of the woods. I needed to hear this. Thanks for being real.
Wow, this is amazing. Had no idea he wrote that script. Incredible.
Its about " FAMILY"
Harsh Times (2005) is one of the most underrated films of the 2000s. Christain Bale's performance is 10/10.
Really? I honestly wasn’t a fan. I found it… idk, strange I suppose. I’m a huge fan of this guy as a director and writer though.
CANNYEEHIERTHU SILENZ
Sucks some can’t afford it I wish you nothing but the best in the future I will watch what I can. Much love and respect. For all the real ones you’ve had on here stay blessed and humble!!!
It's crazy because I genuinely enjoyed the theatrical cut of Suicide Squad when it came out but only because I had this weird gut feeling that there was actually something good there that got butchered on the way out. I never felt that way with either cut of Justice League but I do remember being excited that Ayer was directing SS and I did feel like he was wronged with theatrical release. I hope he does get to heal from it someday and he gets to release his cut.
I don't LOVE the movie, especially when compared to the sequel. But it's still a fucking fun ass movie with good characters.
The first trailer really shows the tone he was going for
Yeah both suicide squad movies are great fun popcorn style movies good action comedy and who dies
Release the Ayer Cut 💯
yessirr, preach.
Why? Gunn's movie is amazing.
@@interdimensionalsteve8172wrong movie the first suicide squad
I really appreciate the stories told here.
When I first saw "suicide squad" I remember thinking "this is trying way too hard to be a product", which says to me the director isn't in control. Now I know, I feel kind of heartbroken for him after this. Would love to see his take on it, hell..we may even realize Leto did an amazing job, because he thought it was a darker movie.
True, but I can't see a solid or even a great movie within what we got.
@@4Everlast I agree somewhat..the fight scenes with those charcoal things?? That was never gonna work. The overuse of CGI too. However, different editing, use of music, etc. Could potentially make for a great movie? Who knows. I'd like to know the director's original vision. Either way, what we got was awful
@@jake90052 Indeed. Also, wtf can a team like that do to stop Superman as Whaller said? Fkn H.Quinn with a damn peace of wood? The horrible Joker, the F'd up tone, even the original intended one clashed too much, the superhero, guy on fire Vs. gritty wannabe reality, it's not easy to make it work.
@@4Everlast it's a great point, sending a guy in with a boomerang, and another with a baseball bat? It logically makes no sense, especially when they're with a sorcereress. (?) You make a really good point. Perhaps if it had been written as a story, where the handlers were using this all as an excuse to just get them killed legally, and they somehow managed to get through it... I dunno... It is a difficult story set up
@@jake90052 It could be done, but you got to be up to par. The remake was much, much better.
As long as his cut doesn't delete any scenes from the extended cut then I'd want to see it. Because i love the extended cut.
He also did the screenplay for Dark Blue. One of my favourite films.
David Ayer is a great director, I enjoyed the 2016 Suicide Squad movie and hope we get a director’s cut release someday 😊
Same here.
I love it too even tho it's been tampered with, it's still all his footage
It was horrible
Ok you can stop lying, that movie was complete ass
Definitely
This is really important! I’m glad I got to hear this. I wish David could hear or know that
I knew who and what he had done, when I heard that Ayer was going to direct Suicide Squad I was excited to see what he would do with the characters & had zero doubts in my mind that he would do an awesome job. When I went to go see the movie in theaters I originally liked it, it was far from the greatest thing I've ever seen but still liked it but there was something off like it didn't feel right, like it didn't feel like a typical Ayer movie. Knowing what I know now it makes absolute sense that the studio has their hands all over it
Fury really is an awesome movie. Still watch it about once a year
#ReleaseTheAyerCut
WB did this man and the fans dirty. WB needs to make it right.
Cool video. Just came up suggested on my feed. I want to see the Ayer cut. Big fan Jon
this the manliest opening to any podcast i ever seen.
harsh times is such a guilty pleasure. over the top performance from bail and hyper editing. it's a great ride
Lets just acknowledge and appreciate Tim Burton for being the one dude that literally made his own movie ( Batman Returns ) even though the studio hated it 😂😂
In retrospect, I find it to be the most enjoyable of the 90s Batman outlets (including the 89' one, as that movie is quite the incoherent mess, tbh), and just a great movie overall, front to back.
He was promised creative control. They got rid of him after and he couldn’t care less 😂
Fury is such an amazing movie for me. From the story to visuals and omg the sound was all top notch. It sucks that we may never get to see his suicide cut.
You know better tank movie? The beast of war
Man…. I’ve always loved your work, I love it even more now! First choice man, I’m dropping your name on these new projects..
Fun fact: Jon Bernthal was actually considered for the role of Rick Flag before Joel Kinnaman got the role.
So was Tom Hardy , he was actually signed on but dropped the role for Venom.
@@onethousandlostsouls Yeah, I know Tom Hardy originally signed on, but he didn't drop out for Venom. It was actually due to scheduling conflicts with The Revenant.
Agreed, let Gunn get some scores on the wall, that will help and hopefully after some good runs, he can go back and present the Ayer cut as another possibility to WB! I'd pay to see it, I liked the first one personally, and I'm sure I'll love his version even more!
The Snyder cut wasn't profitable for WB/DC. Sure it pleased the fans but like they always say, " it ain't show -friends, it show-business
it's sad because you know in that movie you can tell there was brilliance in their hiding under heavy studio interference .. what a shame.. I so hope we can get his true cut.
#RELEASETHEAYERCUT baby!
I think David Ayer should direct and write a grand theft auto movie🎉
We need David’s cut like yesterday!!!! #ReleaseTheAyerCut
I hope we get Zack snyder on here, I wanna hear from him about the whole fued with the studio
I cannot wait for it’s release. Love David Ayer’s stuff
Fast and Furious was based on NY with a bunch of Italians? You definitely saved that franchise. You shall be praised and immortalized forever. That movie S-MACKED
I think David's Ayers version of the suicide squad would have been better than the shitty one we got
Damn. That description of the film industry is f-cking nuts. That’s sounds horrifying. I knew Hollywood was cold blooded and f-cked up but hearing that description from big time director is scary. Gives me a new perspective.
Damn, it hurts to know his film was butchered almost as Snyder's Justice League. Hollywood is one of the worst industries for sure...
Can't wait to see the true version of it. The original teaser was so good.
Cool Format
Let’s get it! Punisher and David Ayer Talking about #ReleaseTheAyerCut ! Let’s keep pushing it guys! James Gunn and WB will HAVE to Release it eventually…and soon for that matter.
wouldn’t be until after they try and build up Dc again even ayer said that
*RELEASE THE AYER CUT!!!*
I greatly appreciate hearing this. Changed my mind about a lot of things and I’ll be slower to be harshly critical of creatives.
Yay!!! David Ayer has the COPY of his CUT of Suicide Squad!!! I am half-reliefed that the f**king studio won't be able to destroy it anymore!!! David Ayer needs to get his CUT released so move on just like Zack Snyder did!! #releasetheayercut
Dudes like this need to get together and make their own movies. Go around the studios.
I think even then the powers in Hollywood will label them as right wing or toxic and create this narrative that if you support them you evil.
"I don't go to the parties"
Ah, those parties. That's why they don't like him.
Wait! . . . You're telling me this man is responsible for "The Fast and the Furious "??🤔
I want to see that cut!
Everyone's disposable man.-
David Ayer
cant wait for the ayer cut
The Host of this show is The Punisher ???
That's Crazy Awesome !!
Love this director, absolute 100% lurve!!
My family saw a sneak peak of the movie before it came out. One of those “test showings” and the loved it. My dad was talking about how creepy and scary the Joker was portrayed. So I was surprised by the final showing.
i really have wanted the Ayer cut forever now ... PLEASE release it
I remember the first reveal of Suicide Squad was dark and creepy and I was HYPED! Then months later they released the new "fun" colorful trailer and I was soooo confused
Shia knew because blockbusters have done the same to him. He was used as the scapegoat for Transformers, Indy 5, & Wallstreet not living up to expectations. It made him look like a “bad” actor, but he was just in bad movies. Only REAL ONES know Shia is one of the best actors out there.
In most cases, most mainstream actors are in films that are either okay (aka inoffensive and safe) or bad.
It has nothing to do with Shia being used as a scapegoat. Listen to what they discuss in the video. Ayer or Shia have an interpretation or vision of what they want to achieve for a film, or it is the reason you got into the project in the first place (director, story, writer etc), and that just gets ripped away from you and you are in a car crash you can see coming miles away and can't do anything about it.. Shia's performances in all those films were praised, it was the film itself that was poorly received.
I really need to see that cut. Release David Ayer's Suicide Squad...
I don't think I ever knew that an actual director's cut existed, this was new news to me
There's scenes online of it
I thought John was wearing a prison jumpsuit at first hahahahahaha
Alternate title to this video: “The Punisher talks about the Suicide Squad” lol
I hope they releases his cut of SS. Directors should always have full creative control of their films. Plus, what I hear about his cut; the mother box was involved and connected to ZSJL. Hope they release it.
I feel bad for David with the Suicide Squad, and I hope we get to see his cut. That being said, he has to let the Fast and The Furious thing go. He only wrote the first film, and it was a carbon copy of Point Break. It also didn't become a global juggernaut until the 5th film. He does not deserve any more than the residuals he already gets as Chris Morgan has done the heavy lifting.
I always imagined Ayer’s Cut would resemble something like Training Day, Rick Flag is Ethan Hawke and everybody else is Denzel Washington
I remember i was blown away by the first ever Suicide Squad trailer. I remember it was the first look trailer at comic con. It was dark and moody and was everything i had hoped for. Viola Davis as Amanda Waller kicked that trailer off right. I would be so down to have this released.
Shades of David Fincher and ALIEN 3. Looking forward to the incredible movie that this whole experience will hopefully drive Ayer to deliver next.