I can't remember exactly who (maybe it was kalkittadrop638) I read this from but the Fredbear Plush only speaks during the minigames in the restaurant where he is in front of or in close proximity to door that revealed William. Outside of the restaurant, the Plush only speaks when he is in the house. Both contexts connected to William. Notably, the Fredbear Plush does not speak to the Crying Child when he is locked in Parts and Service or when he is bullied by Mike and his friends. For a supposed imaginary friend, Psychic Friend Fredbear is conspicuously absent during two very crucial times his advice and words of encouragement would have been greatly needed. This casts doubt on PFF ever having been an imaginary friend or a haunted possession.
It was me. Also notably there are one or two places outside where he's not present, nearest to the road. The fact the ones outside are all hidden in objects and there's a bit of 8-bit abstraction makes me further think this is meant to imply there's an array of hidden cameras along the path home and in the home. There probably aren't any at the resturant as it's a public space, people could see, and William probably has access to the actual real security cams not to mention he works there. There's also the fact some of the outdoor Fredbears aren't glowing and seem to be disarmed or deactivated, while the indoor ones including the girls room are. This combined with Night 4 not having Fredbear Plush OR 'Tomorrow is Another Day' (when David is locked in the backroom), and the fact Fredbear Plush only speaks without the plush in the one room that also has a William easteregg, and again, simple fact that the hat and bow is purple and not black like prior, makes me think he was always meant to be Purple Guy spying on us(and thus the fact he has access to our house AND talked to CC right after his brother did in the hospital suggests we were always meant to be Purple Guy's family. You could also totally solve Foxy Bro = Mike Schmidt = FNAF 3 Guard = Fritz Smith = FNAF 4 Protagonist back then, some people on Reddit did, people just didn't listen). Somehow the thing I've become most well known for is the whole "You call Internships Summer Jobs? Yes, it's a regional dialect." thing
And I blame for the community for jumping to use an unofficial name that encouraged a specific manner of thinking. Psychic Friend Fredbear was coined when people were convinced this was a ghost and a positive force even though neither was proven, he may not be psychic or our friend, this might be Walkie Talkie Willybear. In the same veign, DCI is a dumb term(and that one isn't knee jerk, that term only took off in like...2019, 2020, prior to that you heard MCI-2 or Save Them Massacre a lot) because it's based on the premise that those victims never went missing and were found immediately...which was based on the assumption the event happened between Night 5 and 6(which is wrong, albeit a popular mistake) and that William didn't do ANYTHING else to the bodies after Withered Freddy got knocked out at the end of the minigame...both of which are probably wrong, they were missing, for at least a week, not immediately found dead. Also....they might not be children. The Week Before mentions high schoolers and college age people breaking in, and this further supports the CharlieDCITheory(And other than Jason, all of them are like 17-19). This might be the Missing Teens Incident, not the Dead Children Incident. Be careful with names, I guess, fan names are fine, but they shouldn't inherently push you in a direction. I've even argue 'Crying Child' is misleading because it was a huge reason Puppet Theory took off. DAVE AFTON IS NOT THE ONLY CRYING CHILD, NEITHER WAS CHARLIE FOR THAT MATTER. ALL 5 MCI SPIRITS, EXCLUDING BOTH OF THOSE 2, ARE DEPICTED AS CRYING CHILDREN IN FNAF 3'S SPRINGLOCK MINIGAME. WE SEE THE MAIN 3 DEPICTED AS CRYING KIDS IN A FNAF 1 POSTER EASTEREGG. THIS IS BASICALLY "IT'S ME" ALL OVER AGAIN, BY FNAF 4 PEOPLE FELT CONVINCED CRYING CHILD WAS EXCLUSIVELY A PUPPET THING EVEN THO IT NEVER WAS AND THAT MISLEAD PEOPLE AND THAT BUGS ME.
Oh and for the color....honestly I think Scott misclicked. If you think it's Pigtail Girl and she's the Sister, fine, but I am not comfortable for any theory that says the color being 'different then the rest of Fredbear Plush' is intentional, but that color being the same as Pigtail Girl's is 'unintentional/a mistake'. Either it's fully intentional or it's fully a mistake, you can't eat your cake and have it too. I hate theories that try to eat their cake and have it too, same with "William removed the bodies during FNAF 2.....but also DCI still happened', like PICK A LANE
More Support for Mosaic Victim™(?) On the topic of Unhappiest Day, the Candy Cadet story with the woman and the five keys, and the Give Gifts mini game - initially I was skeptical about Charlie giving BV's shattered memories to the others (in order to save everyone) as the end of the Candy story says, "Of course, it did not work that way. Now her key opened none of the doors." - but for one, overall it is narratively satisfying, because "Give Gifts" always struck me as odd, if charlie was giving the "Gift of Life", it seems like quite the blunder if Charlie was responsible for causing the souls to possess the animatronics and not move on. So I like that she is giving them either memories or awareness of their deaths. - and two, there can be an interpretation made that Charlie had the "remnant power" to save herself and one victim; herself and one key (contrasted by the "Agony power" to keep people trapped in Agony memory loops (i.e. Larson or UCN)) -- However, "now her keys opened none of the doors" could be her Remnant was not powerful enough to help everyone move on, thus turning BV into TOYSNHK due to the spiritual trauma: - of dying to something William helped create & shattering - being *put back together* by Charlie through bringing them all together: with his Agony/Memories fusing with all of the MCI causing him to essentially experience every MCI murder - which, personally, If my soul/agony fused with 5 murdered kids and I experienced them all, I would be quite vengeful This also is a neat explanation for, at the same time, in UCN Chica saying "I was the first, I have seen everything": BV was the first, and *literally* saw everything (the MCI murders, through their agony/memory mixing), and this is being communicated through Chia who he knows is/experienced as the first MCI victim. (Especially since, if UCN is orchestrated by just TOYSNHK, and potentially the only other spirit is Charlie, Susie cannot **not** be there/the one speaking, it is TOYSNHK through Chica) Comment made on mobile so I hope formatting is alright 😅
On Dittophobia being that Rory is reliving Mike/Dave's real nightmares, the name "Dittophobia" is "fear of repetition", and while it is a story with a lot of repetition, that name has always felt a bit off to me. Now "somniphobia", "fear of sleeping" was taken, but other than somniphobia, all the phobia stories are named after a fear of the main character. But Rory never notices the repetition until it stops. A more fitting title would be whatever the Latin form of "being alone/not being able to find your family members/loss of time". What if the name was chosen to further communicate to us that this isn't a parallel of something that happened in the gamesverse, but a *repeat*. For Dave's memories altering reality, the FieldTM would provide a mechanism for this to happen. It's all about will/mind effecting probably, which is why it does provide a supernatural mechanism for everything that isn't covered by direct possession. In Fetch, a big example is it calling people, putting a finger on the scale of their descision making (which would also be how Henry called everyone together for fnaf6).
Fear of repetition could it be that Rory is afraid of reliving what he lived with his parents? But what he did not know was that what he lived with his parents was a repetition less serious than the 10 years he was constantly repeating his day to day without realizing it.
@@gojironThere's implication that Rory ran away, but I didn't really get the sense that he remembered that he didn't like them. The thing he does after he has "breakfast" is walk around the house looking for him.
1:32:25 Okay, but what if he literally brought home the animatronics though? In The Week Before they try to leave the pizzeria to get to Ralph's house and in Coming Home Chica actually leaves and goes back to Susie's house. In the logbook Michael's prompted to draw his recent dreams and draws Nightmare. There's also the story prompt on pg. 80: "I'd only been on night shift for about a week, but I was so relieved to be switched over to the day shift. There's a lot of stress working 12am - 6am. My boss had told me that the animatronics were acting strangely - almost aggressive towards the staff - but I wasn't about to let that scare me off. AFTER WORK I HAD AN UNSETTLING FEELING THAT I WAS BEING FOLLOWED HOME." Three instances of the animatronics leaving and going to someone's house seems like too many to be a coincidence. 1:42:25 “The last thing Fnaf needs is aliens.” Okay, but Freddy in Space? 2:00:30 In Michael’s speech he does say he’s been living in shadows after the scooping since he’s kinda a corpse now. 2:01:12 The plushie isn’t the only one with inconsistent eyes. Michael doesn’t always have them and during the Bite, Freddy Bully/Oswald's dad is the only one without eyes even though he’s a living child and not possessed. 2:01:20 The eyes in Fnaf World are so weird because Circus Baby is first introduced the same way. 2:50:15 If CC is in the nightmare chamber then what if William just has a speaker in the room that he’s talking through? CC is expecting to hear the voice so it’s not weird for him if it comes from somewhere he can’t see. 2:59:57 Withered Foxy’s jumpscare where he comes out from behind the camera monitor mirrors Michael popping out from behind the TV. 3:00:33 The Freddy poster also switches to a version with him taking off the top part of his head. 4:33:33 Circus Baby also poses like Golden Freddy when you take the chip out. I think it’s supposed to be a hint that she already got her endo scooped. 5:32:25 The STAFF bots all have the tear tracks too. 6:09:44 What if the snake is the scooper, not Circus Baby? The scooping room is the metal cage and it eats by ripping out the animatronics’ endoskeletons, or in Michael’s case, most of his abdominal organs. The five baby kittens kept in a shoebox are the Funtimes trapped in the bunker.
What if mike was trapped in fnaf 4 ala dittophobia, and he found recording of william telling him to go to sister location, they are connected, thats how he got there. What if midnight motorist is why he got put into fnaf 4. He was acting out after his brothers death. The mound is his brothers grave.
3:01:48 that’s essentially what happened. Crying Child’s agony created a curse on the Fazbear Company and that’s why his memories connect with future events. If you want more evidence listen to what Henry says during his speech when the West Hall and Kids Cove images come up on screen during FNAF 6’s ending.
Nightmare BB is canon is not exactly what Scott said, you REALLLLY have to read his wording carefully. There are two versions of the game. The canon update and the non-canon update. The Canon Update adds Halloween decorations to the mini-games, and adds Fun with Nightmare BB as a minigame alongside Fun with Plushtrap(you can get both). The Non-Canon Version replaces Bonnie and Chica with Jack-O variants, replaces Foxy in the Closet with Mangle, and replaces Nightmare and Nightmare Fredbear with Nightmarione. It's not that "Mike only ever saw BB" or something, it's that the version of the game that just adds the minigame without messing with anything else is canon, while the version of the game that replaces Foxy and Nightmare and adds Jack-O variants is not canon. It's about the whole package. We KNOW Micheal saw Mangle, she's in his house, Phantom Mangle is at 3, Fritz saw her. And we know he saw the Puppet, both because of the prior reasons, and it's confirmed she was at the FNAF 1 location(FNAF 2 nightmares and Help Wanted), AND because of Nightmare Freddy. While it's partially inspired by FNAF 1's Freddy camera mechanic, and the design is based on Withered Freddy, really think about the mechanic. You have to check on this thing in a side area, check on it constantly, as it progresses in stages. If you don't check on it long enough, it will kill you, and no other tool you have, no flashlight, no door, can stop it.....Oh and this side area, this containment zone? It's guarded by a little freddy plushie on top. Like the teaser said...don't wake the baby. Nightmare Freddy is a nightmarized mishmash of The Puppet, Withered Freddy, and FNAF 1 Freddy, just like every mechanic in 4, it's a hybrid of what Micheal has seen before.
This was a great podcast!/ Livestream And since you guys brought it up, playing as Michael in Fnaf4 being the misconception Scott cleared up in sister location makes 100% sense. Its kind of wild no one put that together for years. Mike being brain washed/fear gassed to do what ever his dad (William Afton) told him makes sense too. he is the reason the crying child died after all and William literally kills kids. Mike also confirms that his dad told him where it is and he found it (sister location bunker). This would also explain the spring trap cutscene at the end of sister location. It even connects back to the "It's Me" from FNAF 1 being that the crying child is telling mike as the security guard that its him. It's all making sense. The kids seem to only haunt where they last died or where their agony was let out. To add my own little theory on top. Could the mound be where William hid Elizabeth and the Crying Child's bodies? And that's why Michael runs off to "that place" again in Midnight Motorist?
I understand it's not a common interpretation and most likely not true but I wanted to post all the "pigtails girl is elizabeth and the final speaker of fnaf 4" evidence/coincidences because I just think it's a cool interpretation -In the girl's room there's a portrait of a flower with some missing petals. When you meet pigtails girl the fredbear plush's head is on top of a flower and obscuring the part of the flower that had those missing petals in the portrait. This may have been intended to connect her to the room -In that room there's a mangle toy. Mangle was described as a "pull apart and put back together attraction" in fnaf 2. If michael or william described her toy in a similar way then that's where she got that phrase from -If william is the fredbear plush then all three of them talked to crying child before he died. Michael apologizes, william coldly remarks he's broken and keeps up the act as the plush and elizabeth, upon hearing her brother be described as broken, promises to put him back together like her toy to comfort him -If this is true it would explain why pigtails girl shares text color with that line (if it's intentional at least) -baby looks a lot like pigtails girl, maybe william designed her to look like elizabeth when she was younger -The speaker of the final line returns in fnaf world as a pair of yellow eyes. Baby is depicted the same way in her fnaf world ending (albeit a different shape of eyes) -There's also an early sister location teaser that depicts baby with yellow eyes -If both moltenmci and shattervictim are true then baby's ennard plan literally puts crying child back together -After elizabeth is kicked out of ennard she says she can put herself back together so that proves she would use that phrase -Elizabeth is stated to have needed to be put back together by michael and baby describes herself as broken like crying child but with the added detail that she sees herself as unable to be fixed. In fnaf world the speaker says "Something went very wrong. That's why i'm here. But I won't let the same happen to you. I will put you back together". Elizabeth was shattered and believes herself to be unfixable ("Something went very wrong. That's why i'm here.") but believes there's still hope for her little brother and makes the same promise she made so long ago ("But I won't let the same happen to you. I will put you back together.") Also, if you're wondering why pigtails girl says she's gonna see crying child again at his party instead of at home, her room is empty and we don't see william's wife anywhere so it could be that they're divorced and elizabeth is staying over at her mom's house (Also, i'm so glad some of the guests were pro "crying child's memories affect reality after his death")
I do really like the connection that pigtail girl, who looks similar to Elizabeth, has the fredbear plush flower on that screen, and then in her room there's the wilting flower. I've always agreed it is an interesting detail that those things are paired like that
I think I know a reason why nightmare BB might be Cannon All of the nightmares kind of have a human variant/human inspiration in the Nightmare Freddy = Freddy bully Nightmare Bonnie = Bonnie bully Nightmare chica = Chica bully Nightmare foxy= Mike Nightmare Fredbear= the guy in the Fred bear suit Nightmare = William Afton Nightmare BB= the balloon kid
3:16:02 I have a huge issue with this moment, because if we just saw Spring Bonnie and Fredbear be swapped to suit mode and being worn by employees, then why are they still onstage in the background all shadowy? Either there are multiples of the suits (possible but weird considering the idea was that the suits could double as animatronics, so why bother if you could just make one animatronic and one fabric suit?), those are shadow animatronics (unlikely, the Shadows have never been shown to be public-facing if they’re even real in the first place), or something I haven’t thought of.
What I got from this is; in the Candy Cadet story young woman doesn’t die, infact, leaves the building with the combined five keys (in this interpretation, this is literally BV since the keys are his memories and memories are basically the soul especially considering ShatterVictim). So BV and Charlie basically free to go but the MCI is still trapped (died) because of a miscalculation on Charlie’s part, thinking combining memories of BV attached to the kids will free all of them at once or William foiled her plans by creating MoltenMCI(metaphorically his own way of combining the memories of BV, his own twisted Happiest Day-this could be a stretch) (also trying to make this compatible with The Ultimate Guide arc of Charlie). So she remains until FNaF 6 and rest happens. And this is implying CassidyReceiver since BV is a abstract collection of memories (the keys) and since there’s five trapped kids in the story it also implies she is a part of MoltenMCI. Edit: Random idea, in the literal last sentence of the story it says she leaves the building with a “key to five deaths”. Very interesting phrasing there. It could be a reference to Afton’s motivations but I don’t want to go that route.
I was just thinking about this stream again, and then I got to thinking about a certain segment where the topic of Scott wanting William to not have a motive came up. Anyway, long story short, that led me down a rabbit hole and now I'm 100% certain I've solved what's in the box. So, uhm, if you have anyway for me to message you all the evidence I have on this, please let me know, I'm literally shaking at what I've figured out it's absolutely insane!
Really wished there'd be less frequent talking-over/interrupting of one another😅... (i.e., 3:00:23; bro was cooking and I truly wanted to hear the latter part of his thought there 😢) *Loving these streams* nonetheless, but a constructive critique that I had to vocalize!
Hey, I can't remember if you guys talked about this already or not, so mb if you did, but I just wanted to point out that the puppet in FNAF World has glowing eyes similar to those of the fredbear plush. This is just another hint that Charlie may be the one talking through it.
Also, potential stream idea, take blue guy's (Crash's) omega guide he wants to write and plop it in an AI like chat GPT and tell it to solve FNAF, then go through and see how it did. Or as much as any text/document limits allow, idk how it works.
Hopefully the audio this stream was better. I've been learning ways to keep it balanced ❤
Who’s the blue guy? I can’t find his channel :(
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I'm not a *traditional* FNAF fan, but I love this freaking channel/podcast!
3:45:00 (ish) ... Endoskeleton with a bent arm? THE MIMICCCCC
Ngl, I genuinely think that might be The Mimic. Scott does like to leave loose plot threads he could revisit later if he makes a future game.
I can't remember exactly who (maybe it was kalkittadrop638) I read this from but the Fredbear Plush only speaks during the minigames in the restaurant where he is in front of or in close proximity to door that revealed William. Outside of the restaurant, the Plush only speaks when he is in the house. Both contexts connected to William.
Notably, the Fredbear Plush does not speak to the Crying Child when he is locked in Parts and Service or when he is bullied by Mike and his friends. For a supposed imaginary friend, Psychic Friend Fredbear is conspicuously absent during two very crucial times his advice and words of encouragement would have been greatly needed. This casts doubt on PFF ever having been an imaginary friend or a haunted possession.
It was me. Also notably there are one or two places outside where he's not present, nearest to the road. The fact the ones outside are all hidden in objects and there's a bit of 8-bit abstraction makes me further think this is meant to imply there's an array of hidden cameras along the path home and in the home. There probably aren't any at the resturant as it's a public space, people could see, and William probably has access to the actual real security cams not to mention he works there. There's also the fact some of the outdoor Fredbears aren't glowing and seem to be disarmed or deactivated, while the indoor ones including the girls room are.
This combined with Night 4 not having Fredbear Plush OR 'Tomorrow is Another Day' (when David is locked in the backroom), and the fact Fredbear Plush only speaks without the plush in the one room that also has a William easteregg, and again, simple fact that the hat and bow is purple and not black like prior, makes me think he was always meant to be Purple Guy spying on us(and thus the fact he has access to our house AND talked to CC right after his brother did in the hospital suggests we were always meant to be Purple Guy's family. You could also totally solve Foxy Bro = Mike Schmidt = FNAF 3 Guard = Fritz Smith = FNAF 4 Protagonist back then, some people on Reddit did, people just didn't listen).
Somehow the thing I've become most well known for is the whole "You call Internships Summer Jobs? Yes, it's a regional dialect." thing
And I blame for the community for jumping to use an unofficial name that encouraged a specific manner of thinking. Psychic Friend Fredbear was coined when people were convinced this was a ghost and a positive force even though neither was proven, he may not be psychic or our friend, this might be Walkie Talkie Willybear.
In the same veign, DCI is a dumb term(and that one isn't knee jerk, that term only took off in like...2019, 2020, prior to that you heard MCI-2 or Save Them Massacre a lot) because it's based on the premise that those victims never went missing and were found immediately...which was based on the assumption the event happened between Night 5 and 6(which is wrong, albeit a popular mistake) and that William didn't do ANYTHING else to the bodies after Withered Freddy got knocked out at the end of the minigame...both of which are probably wrong, they were missing, for at least a week, not immediately found dead. Also....they might not be children. The Week Before mentions high schoolers and college age people breaking in, and this further supports the CharlieDCITheory(And other than Jason, all of them are like 17-19). This might be the Missing Teens Incident, not the Dead Children Incident.
Be careful with names, I guess, fan names are fine, but they shouldn't inherently push you in a direction. I've even argue 'Crying Child' is misleading because it was a huge reason Puppet Theory took off. DAVE AFTON IS NOT THE ONLY CRYING CHILD, NEITHER WAS CHARLIE FOR THAT MATTER. ALL 5 MCI SPIRITS, EXCLUDING BOTH OF THOSE 2, ARE DEPICTED AS CRYING CHILDREN IN FNAF 3'S SPRINGLOCK MINIGAME. WE SEE THE MAIN 3 DEPICTED AS CRYING KIDS IN A FNAF 1 POSTER EASTEREGG. THIS IS BASICALLY "IT'S ME" ALL OVER AGAIN, BY FNAF 4 PEOPLE FELT CONVINCED CRYING CHILD WAS EXCLUSIVELY A PUPPET THING EVEN THO IT NEVER WAS AND THAT MISLEAD PEOPLE AND THAT BUGS ME.
Oh and for the color....honestly I think Scott misclicked. If you think it's Pigtail Girl and she's the Sister, fine, but I am not comfortable for any theory that says the color being 'different then the rest of Fredbear Plush' is intentional, but that color being the same as Pigtail Girl's is 'unintentional/a mistake'. Either it's fully intentional or it's fully a mistake, you can't eat your cake and have it too. I hate theories that try to eat their cake and have it too, same with "William removed the bodies during FNAF 2.....but also DCI still happened', like PICK A LANE
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On the topic of Unhappiest Day, the Candy Cadet story with the woman and the five keys, and the Give Gifts mini game - initially I was skeptical about Charlie giving BV's shattered memories to the others (in order to save everyone) as the end of the Candy story says, "Of course, it did not work that way. Now her key opened none of the doors."
- but for one, overall it is narratively satisfying, because "Give Gifts" always struck me as odd, if charlie was giving the "Gift of Life", it seems like quite the blunder if Charlie was responsible for causing the souls to possess the animatronics and not move on. So I like that she is giving them either memories or awareness of their deaths.
- and two, there can be an interpretation made that Charlie had the "remnant power" to save herself and one victim; herself and one key (contrasted by the "Agony power" to keep people trapped in Agony memory loops (i.e. Larson or UCN))
-- However, "now her keys opened none of the doors" could be her Remnant was not powerful enough to help everyone move on, thus turning BV into TOYSNHK due to the spiritual trauma:
- of dying to something William helped create & shattering
- being *put back together* by Charlie through bringing them all together: with his Agony/Memories fusing with all of the MCI causing him to essentially experience every MCI murder - which, personally, If my soul/agony fused with 5 murdered kids and I experienced them all, I would be quite vengeful
This also is a neat explanation for, at the same time, in UCN Chica saying "I was the first, I have seen everything": BV was the first, and *literally* saw everything (the MCI murders, through their agony/memory mixing), and this is being communicated through Chia who he knows is/experienced as the first MCI victim. (Especially since, if UCN is orchestrated by just TOYSNHK, and potentially the only other spirit is Charlie, Susie cannot **not** be there/the one speaking, it is TOYSNHK through Chica)
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On Dittophobia being that Rory is reliving Mike/Dave's real nightmares, the name "Dittophobia" is "fear of repetition", and while it is a story with a lot of repetition, that name has always felt a bit off to me. Now "somniphobia", "fear of sleeping" was taken, but other than somniphobia, all the phobia stories are named after a fear of the main character. But Rory never notices the repetition until it stops. A more fitting title would be whatever the Latin form of "being alone/not being able to find your family members/loss of time". What if the name was chosen to further communicate to us that this isn't a parallel of something that happened in the gamesverse, but a *repeat*.
For Dave's memories altering reality, the FieldTM would provide a mechanism for this to happen. It's all about will/mind effecting probably, which is why it does provide a supernatural mechanism for everything that isn't covered by direct possession. In Fetch, a big example is it calling people, putting a finger on the scale of their descision making (which would also be how Henry called everyone together for fnaf6).
Fear of repetition could it be that Rory is afraid of reliving what he lived with his parents? But what he did not know was that what he lived with his parents was a repetition less serious than the 10 years he was constantly repeating his day to day without realizing it.
@@gojironThere's implication that Rory ran away, but I didn't really get the sense that he remembered that he didn't like them. The thing he does after he has "breakfast" is walk around the house looking for him.
1:32:25 Okay, but what if he literally brought home the animatronics though? In The Week Before they try to leave the pizzeria to get to Ralph's house and in Coming Home Chica actually leaves and goes back to Susie's house. In the logbook Michael's prompted to draw his recent dreams and draws Nightmare. There's also the story prompt on pg. 80: "I'd only been on night shift for about a week, but I was so relieved to be switched over to the day shift. There's a lot of stress working 12am - 6am. My boss had told me that the animatronics were acting strangely - almost aggressive towards the staff - but I wasn't about to let that scare me off. AFTER WORK I HAD AN UNSETTLING FEELING THAT I WAS BEING FOLLOWED HOME."
Three instances of the animatronics leaving and going to someone's house seems like too many to be a coincidence.
1:42:25 “The last thing Fnaf needs is aliens.” Okay, but Freddy in Space?
2:00:30 In Michael’s speech he does say he’s been living in shadows after the scooping since he’s kinda a corpse now.
2:01:12 The plushie isn’t the only one with inconsistent eyes. Michael doesn’t always have them and during the Bite, Freddy Bully/Oswald's dad is the only one without eyes even though he’s a living child and not possessed.
2:01:20 The eyes in Fnaf World are so weird because Circus Baby is first introduced the same way.
2:50:15 If CC is in the nightmare chamber then what if William just has a speaker in the room that he’s talking through? CC is expecting to hear the voice so it’s not weird for him if it comes from somewhere he can’t see.
2:59:57 Withered Foxy’s jumpscare where he comes out from behind the camera monitor mirrors Michael popping out from behind the TV.
3:00:33 The Freddy poster also switches to a version with him taking off the top part of his head.
4:33:33 Circus Baby also poses like Golden Freddy when you take the chip out. I think it’s supposed to be a hint that she already got her endo scooped.
5:32:25 The STAFF bots all have the tear tracks too.
6:09:44 What if the snake is the scooper, not Circus Baby? The scooping room is the metal cage and it eats by ripping out the animatronics’ endoskeletons, or in Michael’s case, most of his abdominal organs. The five baby kittens kept in a shoebox are the Funtimes trapped in the bunker.
What if mike was trapped in fnaf 4 ala dittophobia, and he found recording of william telling him to go to sister location, they are connected, thats how he got there. What if midnight motorist is why he got put into fnaf 4. He was acting out after his brothers death. The mound is his brothers grave.
3:01:48 that’s essentially what happened. Crying Child’s agony created a curse on the Fazbear Company and that’s why his memories connect with future events. If you want more evidence listen to what Henry says during his speech when the West Hall and Kids Cove images come up on screen during FNAF 6’s ending.
Nightmare BB is canon is not exactly what Scott said, you REALLLLY have to read his wording carefully.
There are two versions of the game. The canon update and the non-canon update. The Canon Update adds Halloween decorations to the mini-games, and adds Fun with Nightmare BB as a minigame alongside Fun with Plushtrap(you can get both). The Non-Canon Version replaces Bonnie and Chica with Jack-O variants, replaces Foxy in the Closet with Mangle, and replaces Nightmare and Nightmare Fredbear with Nightmarione. It's not that "Mike only ever saw BB" or something, it's that the version of the game that just adds the minigame without messing with anything else is canon, while the version of the game that replaces Foxy and Nightmare and adds Jack-O variants is not canon. It's about the whole package.
We KNOW Micheal saw Mangle, she's in his house, Phantom Mangle is at 3, Fritz saw her. And we know he saw the Puppet, both because of the prior reasons, and it's confirmed she was at the FNAF 1 location(FNAF 2 nightmares and Help Wanted), AND because of Nightmare Freddy. While it's partially inspired by FNAF 1's Freddy camera mechanic, and the design is based on Withered Freddy, really think about the mechanic. You have to check on this thing in a side area, check on it constantly, as it progresses in stages. If you don't check on it long enough, it will kill you, and no other tool you have, no flashlight, no door, can stop it.....Oh and this side area, this containment zone? It's guarded by a little freddy plushie on top. Like the teaser said...don't wake the baby. Nightmare Freddy is a nightmarized mishmash of The Puppet, Withered Freddy, and FNAF 1 Freddy, just like every mechanic in 4, it's a hybrid of what Micheal has seen before.
This was a great podcast!/ Livestream
And since you guys brought it up, playing as Michael in Fnaf4 being the misconception Scott cleared up in sister location makes 100% sense. Its kind of wild no one put that together for years. Mike being brain washed/fear gassed to do what ever his dad (William Afton) told him makes sense too. he is the reason the crying child died after all and William literally kills kids. Mike also confirms that his dad told him where it is and he found it (sister location bunker). This would also explain the spring trap cutscene at the end of sister location.
It even connects back to the "It's Me" from FNAF 1 being that the crying child is telling mike as the security guard that its him. It's all making sense. The kids seem to only haunt where they last died or where their agony was let out. To add my own little theory on top. Could the mound be where William hid Elizabeth and the Crying Child's bodies? And that's why Michael runs off to "that place" again in Midnight Motorist?
I understand it's not a common interpretation and most likely not true but I wanted to post all the "pigtails girl is elizabeth and the final speaker of fnaf 4" evidence/coincidences because I just think it's a cool interpretation
-In the girl's room there's a portrait of a flower with some missing petals. When you meet pigtails girl the fredbear plush's head is on top of a flower and obscuring the part of the flower that had those missing petals in the portrait. This may have been intended to connect her to the room
-In that room there's a mangle toy. Mangle was described as a "pull apart and put back together attraction" in fnaf 2. If michael or william described her toy in a similar way then that's where she got that phrase from
-If william is the fredbear plush then all three of them talked to crying child before he died. Michael apologizes, william coldly remarks he's broken and keeps up the act as the plush and elizabeth, upon hearing her brother be described as broken, promises to put him back together like her toy to comfort him
-If this is true it would explain why pigtails girl shares text color with that line (if it's intentional at least)
-baby looks a lot like pigtails girl, maybe william designed her to look like elizabeth when she was younger
-The speaker of the final line returns in fnaf world as a pair of yellow eyes. Baby is depicted the same way in her fnaf world ending (albeit a different shape of eyes)
-There's also an early sister location teaser that depicts baby with yellow eyes
-If both moltenmci and shattervictim are true then baby's ennard plan literally puts crying child back together
-After elizabeth is kicked out of ennard she says she can put herself back together so that proves she would use that phrase
-Elizabeth is stated to have needed to be put back together by michael and baby describes herself as broken like crying child but with the added detail that she sees herself as unable to be fixed. In fnaf world the speaker says "Something went very wrong. That's why i'm here. But I won't let the same happen to you. I will put you back together". Elizabeth was shattered and believes herself to be unfixable ("Something went very wrong. That's why i'm here.") but believes there's still hope for her little brother and makes the same promise she made so long ago ("But I won't let the same happen to you. I will put you back together.")
Also, if you're wondering why pigtails girl says she's gonna see crying child again at his party instead of at home, her room is empty and we don't see william's wife anywhere so it could be that they're divorced and elizabeth is staying over at her mom's house
(Also, i'm so glad some of the guests were pro "crying child's memories affect reality after his death")
I do really like the connection that pigtail girl, who looks similar to Elizabeth, has the fredbear plush flower on that screen, and then in her room there's the wilting flower. I've always agreed it is an interesting detail that those things are paired like that
3:15:47 ,thats a name tag, not a badge, normally managers, bosses and ceo wears them
1:05:15 Out of Stock gives credence to Frights Fiction because Plushtrap could very well be a tie-in toy with FNaF 4’s Indie Dev release in-universe.
I think I know a reason why nightmare BB might be Cannon
All of the nightmares kind of have a human variant/human inspiration in the
Nightmare Freddy = Freddy bully
Nightmare Bonnie = Bonnie bully
Nightmare chica = Chica bully
Nightmare foxy= Mike
Nightmare Fredbear= the guy in the Fred bear suit
Nightmare = William Afton
Nightmare BB= the balloon kid
3:16:02 I have a huge issue with this moment, because if we just saw Spring Bonnie and Fredbear be swapped to suit mode and being worn by employees, then why are they still onstage in the background all shadowy? Either there are multiples of the suits (possible but weird considering the idea was that the suits could double as animatronics, so why bother if you could just make one animatronic and one fabric suit?), those are shadow animatronics (unlikely, the Shadows have never been shown to be public-facing if they’re even real in the first place), or something I haven’t thought of.
Fnaf 4 is 14 letters🙏
I love William reverse psychology-ing his kids. Seems like the manipulative thing he would do.
If they ever get to Over analyzing security breach it is going to be a 200+ hour nightmare. Rip there sanity
What I got from this is; in the Candy Cadet story young woman doesn’t die, infact, leaves the building with the combined five keys (in this interpretation, this is literally BV since the keys are his memories and memories are basically the soul especially considering ShatterVictim). So BV and Charlie basically free to go but the MCI is still trapped (died) because of a miscalculation on Charlie’s part, thinking combining memories of BV attached to the kids will free all of them at once or William foiled her plans by creating MoltenMCI(metaphorically his own way of combining the memories of BV, his own twisted Happiest Day-this could be a stretch) (also trying to make this compatible with The Ultimate Guide arc of Charlie). So she remains until FNaF 6 and rest happens. And this is implying CassidyReceiver since BV is a abstract collection of memories (the keys) and since there’s five trapped kids in the story it also implies she is a part of MoltenMCI.
Edit: Random idea, in the literal last sentence of the story it says she leaves the building with a “key to five deaths”. Very interesting phrasing there. It could be a reference to Afton’s motivations but I don’t want to go that route.
I was just thinking about this stream again, and then I got to thinking about a certain segment where the topic of Scott wanting William to not have a motive came up.
Anyway, long story short, that led me down a rabbit hole and now I'm 100% certain I've solved what's in the box. So, uhm, if you have anyway for me to message you all the evidence I have on this, please let me know, I'm literally shaking at what I've figured out it's absolutely insane!
I think william carred for his childs at first but when he started to investigating the puppet he sort of snapped out
I can't believe CreeperDCI got confirmed this stream, Steve didnt stand a chance
Really wished there'd be less frequent talking-over/interrupting of one another😅...
(i.e., 3:00:23; bro was cooking and I truly wanted to hear the latter part of his thought there 😢)
*Loving these streams* nonetheless, but a constructive critique that I had to vocalize!
Hey, I can't remember if you guys talked about this already or not, so mb if you did, but I just wanted to point out that the puppet in FNAF World has glowing eyes similar to those of the fredbear plush. This is just another hint that Charlie may be the one talking through it.
Truly peak 🤌
Nice 👍
Sure Squawks is the GOAT
Also, potential stream idea, take blue guy's (Crash's) omega guide he wants to write and plop it in an AI like chat GPT and tell it to solve FNAF, then go through and see how it did. Or as much as any text/document limits allow, idk how it works.