The agony of CCs death influencing the world into playing out his personal superstitions is actually a really cool way of marrying dreamtheory with non dreamtheories
You play the "investigate the lore" card? Well I play Mr. Hippo in defense mode! And it has a special effect, which negates all Lore related spell cards!
Completely unironically, some of these streams are the most fun I've had doing anything FNAF based in my whole time doing this whole UA-cam thing. This 100% deserves to blow up, you deserve the praise for organizing all of this. Absolutely insane work. GET IT TO 14 FAZBILLION LIKES !!!
PEAK IS OUT! I'm so hyped for this! Also thank you TDread for the amazing opportunities throughout this and I can't wait to see what happens next! Also thank you to everyone I spoke with! I feel so welcomed in the theory realm because of everyone! Maybe I should get you to help me overanalyze FNAF Security Breach for 12 hours XD
44:05 I took the line "You will be expected to wear the temporary costumes provided to you. Keep in mind that they were found on very short notice, so questions about appropriateness slash relevance should be deflected" as relating to the old costumes found with the Mimic in Ruin. They're completely out of left-field and wholly unrelated to any of the characters or themes we see in all Fredbear's/Freddy's locations, and given that the sunken Pizzaria is generally accepted to be FNaF6/OG Fredbear's, it would make sense for those to be the "last minute" costumes found after the springlocks were deemed unsafe.
Another point towards the FNAF1 golden freddy suit not existing is the fact that they’d have no reason to fix his suit between games as he is a discontinued character (I’m pretty sure)
Unless the mechanics simply didn't realise he wasn't supposed to be fixed. If you're told "fix these animatronics" then you're gonna fix them all before management comes in and says "NOT THAT ONE!"
I thought the box and the 2 locks generally referred to fnaf world and fnaf 3, where one lock was doing the flip-side stuff in fnaf world that sets up the minigames in fnaf 3 since they are very similar, and the completion of the games in fnaf 3 refers to the 2nd lock. If we take it as a literal box, you cannot open it and get the contents without both locks being undone, none can work without the other also working.
I always assumed the two locks on the box conceptually operated like nuclear power plant systems. Two people have different keys so no one being can access it
14:26 "The meek shall inherit the earth", after all I personally believe memories influencing reality is something that can happen in the fnaf universe in general, crying child just happens to be the most influential That's why scott made him so perpetually sad, he had to be experiencing an extreme amount of negative emotions for his memories to be so powerful 21:03 Elizabeth is stated to have needed to be put back together just like crying child Baby describes herself as broken like he was, but also claims she cannot be fixed So elizabeth was shattered and believes herself to be unfixable (Something went very wrong. That's why i'm here.) but believes her little brother can still be fixed despite shattering (But i won't let the same happen to you. I will put you back together.) I don't know why no one ever brings up that posibility, i feel like it's the most obvious explanation of those lines... Fnaf world and sister location were both meant to clarify stuff about fnaf 4 after all 29:42 I personally believe happiest day just happens after fnaf 3 And i think crying child is in molten freddy, all five children being put into a single vessel puts him in the driver's seat "One big happy family!" - Crying child "It feels like home..." - Elizabeth 37:58 The mci happened in 83~ Cassidy is possesing the fredbear plush~ (This one's a joke lol) 51:12 It probably is the kids who make them want to leave though The week before shows the mci also wanting to escape from the fnaf 1 location It seems to be a goal of theirs to be able to walk around the outside world again 1:00:23 Shadow freddy is protecting the kids~ His goal in the follow me minigames was to get william springlocked~ He enjoys killing william in ucn~ Shadow freddy is a good guy~ ...and typing the above made me think of a new insane theory of my own... "ShadowsJakeandAndrew" here we go... Cassidyreicever for life btw
I always imagined the "Springlock" suit in Sister Location was just Baby's empty shell. She's pretending to be apart on the ground as the workers bring in Ballora which is why she can speak to you.
Ok here's my stupid theory I came up with a while back. It's basically fan fiction but I thought of it again during your Sister Location section. The Sister Location springlock suit is Funtime Bonnie. William was wearing it during the opening of Circus Baby's Party World, as he was intending to be directly involved as a human element in his plan to kidnap children using the Funtimes. Their ringmaster. Unfortunately the springlocks failed on William, and caused everyone, except Elizabeth, to leave Baby's room due to the commotion. But since Henry was there to support his friend's new business opening, he got William out of the suit with minimal scarring to himself and patrons. (Like how William was also springlocked in the Silver Eyes Trilogy). Henry, seeing how badly this went even with an experienced person using the suit, banned the springlock suits from use at Freddy's. William in his grief over Elizabeth and/or bruised ego over being saved by Henry, throws the Funtime Bonnie suit into the SL bunker. Never to be seen until Mike is placed into it as way to narratively drive home that he looks like his father while trying not to follow in his footsteps, and not get got by a bunny suit. Baby describes the suit as not having been used the way it was meant to be, as William didn't get to kill/kidnap any kids using it (the purpose of the Funtimes). Because it's 'too dangerous' to be worn, slightly amused as she knows she is a massive murder machine and ol' Willy A couldn't stand a little bit of springlocking.
Im ABSOLUTELY behind God Victim btw. I like arcade theory more because of the "what happens out there has an effect in here" line from FNAF World, but God Victim is already a trope in media and seems more likely to be what scott was going for, with that said, if we find out balloon boy predates 1983, it'll pretty much deconfirm it
Absolutely agree that Mike had the nightmares before their appearance in FNAF 4’s nighttime gameplay! The survival logbook clearly implies Mike suffered from nightmares (these were likely naturally occurring thanks to his five nights spent at the FNAF 1 location). Then Cassidy uses these nightmarish depictions of the animatronics to torture William in a personalized nightmare. Cassidy is also further inspired by Mike’s experiences at the FNAF 1 location as shown by them manifesting a version of the crying child’s bedroom with two doors on either side, with Bonnie attacking from the left and Chica from the right - just like they had hounded Mike in real life. This is also why you occasionally hear a distorted FNAF 1 phone guy clip - Mike has already survived five nights. I talk about this in my video “Nightmare Theory” if you wanna hear more :33
Man I love watching these videos because I remember the revelations chat had in real time. You’ve been making better and better content Tdreads, great job!
I’m pretty sure “what is seen in the shadows is easily misunderstood in the mind of a child” has nothing to do with what CC saw at the pizzeria. I’m 99% sure it’s talking about the nightmare animatronics. Kids mistake shadows as monsters at night, and you literally see the Freddy and Foxy plus get replaced with the nightmares during the main gameplay. I think Scott was trying to say the Nightmare animatronics were illusions with that hint
okay, hear me out. MCI is 5 kids going missing: Gabriel, Jeremy, Suzie, Fritz and Cassidy. 4 kids that went missing under the same circumstances and 1 kid that got a different scenario. 4.1. 1.4. 14. Golden Freddy is represented as a number 14 because it is possessed by one of the children that died differently than the rest.
Im not sure man,with the exception of the colour of Bonnie being noticably darker in those drawings,I think it's a stretch to say those definitely aren't the toys. Those drawings could also have been brought in from the previous location or Scott just didn't think about it. Especially since Phone Guy says they STARTED (implying that they never finished) retrofitting the old animatronics but somebody decided they were too ugly and smelly so they made the toys instead.
@Querez8504 Assuming that the previous location wouldn't have been known as "new" at some point (like,being a new brand/pizzeria entirely),yes. But I still think it could just be that Scott didn't care enough to have the colours be ever so slightly brighter
What if 1983 on tv commercial is not the year when FNAF 4 takes place but rather the year the Freddy band was made. Like "Since 1983"? Because why tf would anyone display current year on a fricking TV commercial? That essentially gets rid of the two bites theory, leaving us with only the bite of '87 which is EXACTLY what Scott was planning to do all along but the audience got confused
That's cool and all but Scott himself already confirmed the Fredbear bite happened in 1983 by telling people to watch a video made by MatPat that confirms WillTrap and Bite of 83
@@aliendilo3105 I dunno to clarify when were toy animatronics made? It's not that it changes anything but I think that if FNAF 4 was the final chapter then Scott just wanted to explain everything in the universe
12:53 i think cc seeing the bear move around like a ghost kinda explains why abby in the fnaf movie could see the spirits of the mci victims.. im going insane because no one said anything about why she’s able to do that but if the plush bear is a ghost which explains why it teleports maybe my theory is correct because we dont have a cc in the fnaf movie but we do have a abby 🤔 guys what if abby’s auntie end up killing her in fnaf 2 ?
Also abby could be our circus baby 🤔 i think i see where scott is going with these fnaf movies .. hmm maybe i should become a theorist and put my claims out there because i cant be the only one who thinks this
For the Unwithered theory I have another problem with it being set in the summer. Fritz is explicitly shown to be the 3rd guard working there. Hes listed as employee num. 3 on his termination notice. That was a detail not present in fnaf 1 and is too specific to just be random. That along with the use of the term Summer Job means you have to have a whole lot of evidence to proove it was open before now, and these drawings arent that.
11:25 To me this is evidence for alter-M theory. What psychic friend fredbear is doing is *narrating*. "This is how the crying child feels. This is the context for the situation. This is why he won't go to the left side off the screen". Whoever he is is telling the crying child what happened in the lead up to his death so he remembers he's dead. No other characterization explains all of the pre-final night (where it potentially transitions into what Dave actually heard first) dialogue. 23:44 I've figured out what it is. It's the main four getting their Remmant homogenized. That's a term I coined recently, but it's what William did to the Remnant he took from the main four, mixing it all together, and putting it inside the Funtimes. This destroys any unquie personality contained within the Remnant, which is why the Funtimes only have their AI personalities. That kind of thing would be a violation that is very new, unlike getting murdered. And it messes with the main four's ability to move on, until Molten Freddy is destroyed. Which is also why Follow Me is so important that it's what Henry has his insanity ending message about. It's what William did which is worse than murder (cause in pure body count bro isn't making the top thousand). Dave is shattered because he technically dies twice, once when chomped by Fredbear and a second time when he's taken off life support. The second part of his essence is just around (I can't buy Gibi's idea that it haunts the Fredbear plush in SL because that wouldn't have any metal. But it could be agony possessed ala the real Jake and og Ella), unable to move on like a normal death because the rest of it is in Fredbear. Andrew's essence being scattered across the objects prevents him from moving on, but it isn't a great violation. Because that Remnant wasn't homogenized. Spooky eyes doesn't understand that the rest of Dave's essence no longer has a physical counterpart, but they want to get it all in place by doing Fnaf world before something bad happens, cause they're a traumatized child 1:16:07 When i first heard leftydci, I was a believer in cassidci, but now I believe in toydci and five-teen theory. And leftyDCI has really good syngery with my super out there theory that the fire that killed Andrew and his killer and put the Puppet in police evidence happened at the fnaf2 location after it closed. This damaged the toys so much that Entertainment actually got rid of them, instead of keeping them around like they did with the classics and now the mimic. For how the fire was tied to one of the founders, I just threw out there that William and Henry were poking around so much the police found is supcious. But LeftyDCI gives an actual thing for Henry to do, securing the Remenant in the toys and attempting to secure the puppet (to which the police say "no, this is evidence"). So short the puppet and Henry not knowing at this point how to destroy Remenant (and being intermittely lucid), Lefty goes into storage. Shortly afterwards, my theory about what happened to Henry during the 30 year time skip comes into play. (Tries to kill himself, needs decades to heal from the brain damage he gave himself trying to create robo!Charlie).
I still think that it would make more sense that William is blaming Mike and saying "this is how Dave felt, this is what he thought, this is what went through his head every time because of what you used to do to him" as part of a brainwashing program. Because I am utterly sane about this.
Wait, wait, wait. Hold the frick up. In God Victim, Dave's death influences people's minds. That's literally "the field" from Fazbear Frights. Holy heck, someone tell Gibi!
The field in the books also explains how God victim's influence feels on other living people. He's not compelling them, he's just giving them urges/ideas, and the kids who destroy Mangle and Balloon boy's designer are like "sure why not".
I just wanna give a big thanks to you and the rest of the theorists. The streams and theories have sparked a new interest in this franchise, and made theory crafting fun again. You guys also spotted some great stuff and seem close to nailing the lore. Thanks for the entertainment and be sure to find the hidden 14’s I placed within this youtube comment.
On "what was William testing for?" around 7 minutes in - I think he's realised remnant/possession happens specifically around fear? Or pain? Not as in Agony... But as in, he saw how CC specifically died to his biggest fear and then possessed it. If you had just discovered ghosts it seems like a thing you'd question: "OK if ghosts haunting stuff is real, why is this not common knowledge?" From there he goes through the factors that made CC's death stand out, including "being terrified of animatronics." Maybe he tested the gas on Mike, but then tested the other kids, made them scared of animatronics, and killed them to see if their fear was a factor in helping them become trapped spirits
[29:10] Also, in FNAF World, the move Gift Boxes can revive dead characters. This move can only be used by a handful of characters, such as Funtime Foxy, Shadow Bonnie, Coffee and the CRYING CHILD! Edit: I also think that the Crying Child is in Molten Freddy in FNAF 6, because one of his lines in that game is "One big happy family!", so William in Scraptrap, Elizabeth in Scrapbaby, Micheal, (maybe Ms. Afton if you believe she possesses Ballora) and the Crying Child in Molten Freddy.
I have this crackpot theory that FNAF 2 is actually after FNAF 1, and the weird design change of the classic is because Scott is inconsistent with designs. The evidence is simple, Scraptrap. Springtrap and scraptrap are not even close in design, yet, they are the same character. So maybe FNAF 2 was a sequel, not a prequel, all along
15:30 (yeah I know it's not the right timing but who cares) Sorry, if before we've already said that this gane was suppose to be about the bite of 87 but than changed into the bite of 83, i personally think that the toys being... well, toys, is just a thing Scott putted to show that this game and FNaF 2 were connected (enphasis on the "were")
I fucking love you guys and your videos! I've been pogging from the hype revalations and laughing my ass off because you guys are genuinely funny as fuck, you all have natural chemistry together that gels beautifuly. Please make more videos where you guys are together like this, it very much sparks joy!
I'm surprised y'all didn't mention it, but in UCN, Nightmare Fredbear has _two_ underlying voices: the high-pitched one, and TOYSNHK's. I think the high-pitched voice is probably Dave, since the "we know who are friends are" and "put you back together" are massive references to Dave's final cutscene with Psychic Friend Fredbear ("We are still your friends", "I will put you back together"). That and Dave's death being caused by Fredbear, so Nightmare Fredbear makes sense to be the animatronic he would speak through.
LOOP Idea - What is UCN answers FNAF4's cutscenes? What if UCN is a loop because William Afton had promised to put his son back together, trapping him in a looping nightmare until happiest day? What if Happiest Day "released" Dave Afton from his groundhog's day loop and instead of passing on with the MCI, he became Vengeful? What if UCN is Dave Afton repeating what his father did to him; trapping him in a scenario that is inescapable? And the puppet is 'busy', as it says in UCN; uninterested now in helping either Afton move on? What if the OMC bit in UCN is showing us the possible ending the Vengeful Spirit COULD have? One in which he is watching TV with Mike and Elizabeth? But then the final scene is what Dave actually chooses; to stay, forever, torturing his father again and again?
5:48 What if it's Mrs. Afton asking William what he's doing? Since it is colored text and we've never seen nor heard her talk before... And the red text is never used again in the franchise to my knowledge
A theory I've always held onto is that Golden Freddy and Fredbear are two very separate characters in universe. Other than the fact they are both yellow (Or gold), they don't actually share much. Their hats are different colours, even to the extent where in the UCN Easter egg, Goldenfreddy has his black bowtie, and the brief shot of Fredbear has a purple bowtie. The same is true in fnafworld, which used its soft restart to change several of the other character designs. If Fredbear and Goldenfreddy are meant to be the same, why wouldn't Scott had retextured golden Freddy's hat. So, my idea is, its Golden Freddy who has Cassidy, but Fredbear who has Crying Child.
What if the lamp being the same in the Fnaf 4 hallway and Michael's living room is supposed to show that Michael lives in the testing house? It would make sense why Ennard can get inside so easily in the fake ending since the buildings are connected.
22:19 One difference is that i don't think Bite Victim was stuffed into a suit and hes buried in midnight motorist mount in the woods. They wont let him be stuffed.
Ok so, The biggest thing i agree with is Lefty being the DCI, It all aligns too well and lefty always felt so... Strange. The main reason i feel alot of people just put aside the whole "Fuse" part of LEFTE was because they had thought the more simple answer of "Oh i get it like fuse with the puppet seems simple enough" But the consistant imagry of 5 and even the repeated candy cadet story of 5 in i believe it was help wanted 2? Made me scepticle on what the 5 to 1 really meant. This seems to make alot of sense to me personally and i think its a solid and likely theory. Plus a little side note, The puppet saying things like "The others are like animals, But i am very aware" Seems like maybe LEFTE is so agressive due to all the other spirits Though the main figure head is still the puppet (ie The voice.)
I feel like it was retconned between 2 n 3 to be Michel instead of William as the player. That's why Golden Freddy is so confusing. I think Golden Freddy haunts William as Cassidy but haunts Michael as cc. I think that's why William was experimenting on Michael. Maybe 4 brought in cc to disconnect Michael from William's murder victims and give him a reason to be there.
If in SL afton was trying to make artificial agony from animatronics it makes sense that they would be sentient. Self awareness and a certain degree of intelligence must be necessary to produce agony.
So I’ve been an advocate of Digital Agony being a newer thing with Security Breach, ESPECIALLY with the more human like emotions from these animatronics and the race car moving on its own, almost as if it’s finally a direct example of agony infecting objects in the games But regardless of that, suggesting this was being experimented with all the way back in SL brings up another idea I’ve had. That Lolbit is an Agony creature. Created by all the SL events, and now with this idea the actual agony of the animatronics.
ive thought this before but i know it doesnt makes sense in the design/space but what if baby is the springlock suit that was not used in the intended way (as it killed elizabeth when it should have just trapped her). i mean we know that the suits are meant to capture kids, not kill them, william wanted to experiment with agony and if the kid dies then he doesn't have an experiment anymore. idk cause the suits probably arent big enough for a adult/teen, but michael could just be a smaller build and fit anyway. also baby never says its a spring lock suit, we are all assuming that it is. but the screws falling off to me just seam like the suite would then fall apart not launch something in towards the suite. idk idk man if i posted "the spring lock suit we are trapped in sister location isnt a springlock and its actualy just Baby" id get flamed lmao.
Wait he says ONE of the orphans houses. So they weren’t living together and they were in houses already? Maybe they were foster kids that were treated badly?
1 hour and 30 minutes of peak. These were fun to watch. But i'm gonna have to bot those likes to 4k. We need the 24 Hour Stream for SB and Ruin. EDIT 38:00 Yes Tdreads, you're seeing the truth.
Something I think needs addressing is what the RASC is. Maybe its just me but just reading the blueprints doesn't scream "audio lure" but something different, especially with the C in the name being left out. Also it comes with the other 2 blueprints which have major lore reveals such as LEFTE being a container for souls and the scooper being an injector and not an extractor. Someone smarter than me might wanna look into it...
Happiest day is a memory Cc has but it's so clouded with bad ones that Charlie couldn't find the memory so it made up a new one, Cassidy found the happiest memory unlocking the box, I think thats why theres the image of the unlocked box in FNAF world?GODVICTIM maybe? MCI couldn't pass till the happiest day was found, i kinda believe that MCI passed but its their agony that still control the animatronics or Cassidy's
If we can get this to 4k likes, I'll do the rest of the games! You can find all my guests in the description!
Finally, we shall have a Freddy in Space Theory!
60 hour security breach stream
do it guys
The agony of CCs death influencing the world into playing out his personal superstitions is actually a really cool way of marrying dreamtheory with non dreamtheories
Ah yes, Fnaf theorist biggest enemy: Mr. Hippo
You play the "investigate the lore" card? Well I play Mr. Hippo in defense mode! And it has a special effect, which negates all Lore related spell cards!
literally 😭
I play Mr hippo in attack mode making all stories just a story. (Whoever this is played against) Nooooooooo.
He really is.
the funniest part about this comment is that it’s true
Completely unironically, some of these streams are the most fun I've had doing anything FNAF based in my whole time doing this whole UA-cam thing. This 100% deserves to blow up, you deserve the praise for organizing all of this. Absolutely insane work.
GET IT TO 14 FAZBILLION LIKES !!!
I agree!!!
i am starting to think ya'll are like the crazy man living in an alleyway who has unlocked the secrets of the cosmos but we all think is just nuts.
PEAK! Who doesn't love to overanalyze every single little detail in FNAF?
i unironically really like god victim theory
I’m actually in love with the theory
PEAK IS OUT! I'm so hyped for this!
Also thank you TDread for the amazing opportunities throughout this and I can't wait to see what happens next! Also thank you to everyone I spoke with! I feel so welcomed in the theory realm because of everyone! Maybe I should get you to help me overanalyze FNAF Security Breach for 12 hours XD
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44:05 I took the line "You will be expected to wear the temporary costumes provided to you. Keep in mind that they were found on very short notice, so questions about appropriateness slash relevance should be deflected" as relating to the old costumes found with the Mimic in Ruin. They're completely out of left-field and wholly unrelated to any of the characters or themes we see in all Fredbear's/Freddy's locations, and given that the sunken Pizzaria is generally accepted to be FNaF6/OG Fredbear's, it would make sense for those to be the "last minute" costumes found after the springlocks were deemed unsafe.
Another point towards the FNAF1 golden freddy suit not existing is the fact that they’d have no reason to fix his suit between games as he is a discontinued character (I’m pretty sure)
Unless the mechanics simply didn't realise he wasn't supposed to be fixed. If you're told "fix these animatronics" then you're gonna fix them all before management comes in and says "NOT THAT ONE!"
TDreads and friends have repeatedly made significant discoveries! I love the throwing everything at the wall and see what sticks approach.
I thought the box and the 2 locks generally referred to fnaf world and fnaf 3, where one lock was doing the flip-side stuff in fnaf world that sets up the minigames in fnaf 3 since they are very similar, and the completion of the games in fnaf 3 refers to the 2nd lock. If we take it as a literal box, you cannot open it and get the contents without both locks being undone, none can work without the other also working.
Thank you for repeatedly bringing Unwithered Truth back for these videos.
I would also like to thank TDreads for this (and you for this comment) 😉
Aw, thanks!
I always assumed the two locks on the box conceptually operated like nuclear power plant systems. Two people have different keys so no one being can access it
14:26
"The meek shall inherit the earth", after all
I personally believe memories influencing reality is something that can happen in the fnaf universe in general, crying child just happens to be the most influential
That's why scott made him so perpetually sad, he had to be experiencing an extreme amount of negative emotions for his memories to be so powerful
21:03
Elizabeth is stated to have needed to be put back together just like crying child
Baby describes herself as broken like he was, but also claims she cannot be fixed
So elizabeth was shattered and believes herself to be unfixable (Something went very wrong. That's why i'm here.) but believes her little brother can still be fixed despite shattering (But i won't let the same happen to you. I will put you back together.)
I don't know why no one ever brings up that posibility, i feel like it's the most obvious explanation of those lines...
Fnaf world and sister location were both meant to clarify stuff about fnaf 4 after all
29:42
I personally believe happiest day just happens after fnaf 3
And i think crying child is in molten freddy, all five children being put into a single vessel puts him in the driver's seat
"One big happy family!" - Crying child
"It feels like home..." - Elizabeth
37:58
The mci happened in 83~
Cassidy is possesing the fredbear plush~
(This one's a joke lol)
51:12
It probably is the kids who make them want to leave though
The week before shows the mci also wanting to escape from the fnaf 1 location
It seems to be a goal of theirs to be able to walk around the outside world again
1:00:23
Shadow freddy is protecting the kids~
His goal in the follow me minigames was to get william springlocked~
He enjoys killing william in ucn~
Shadow freddy is a good guy~
...and typing the above made me think of a new insane theory of my own...
"ShadowsJakeandAndrew" here we go...
Cassidyreicever for life btw
What if William TOLD Elizabeth that she couldn't be fixed as justification for torturing her?
Could that man be any sicker than he is?
What even is going on any more! 43:20 Literally TDreads is having to do a Steve Harvey "Mammy... MammY..."
I always imagined the "Springlock" suit in Sister Location was just Baby's empty shell. She's pretending to be apart on the ground as the workers bring in Ballora which is why she can speak to you.
ALSO UNWITHEREDLOCATION MENTIONED PEAK
Ok here's my stupid theory I came up with a while back. It's basically fan fiction but I thought of it again during your Sister Location section.
The Sister Location springlock suit is Funtime Bonnie.
William was wearing it during the opening of Circus Baby's Party World, as he was intending to be directly involved as a human element in his plan to kidnap children using the Funtimes. Their ringmaster.
Unfortunately the springlocks failed on William, and caused everyone, except Elizabeth, to leave Baby's room due to the commotion. But since Henry was there to support his friend's new business opening, he got William out of the suit with minimal scarring to himself and patrons.
(Like how William was also springlocked in the Silver Eyes Trilogy).
Henry, seeing how badly this went even with an experienced person using the suit, banned the springlock suits from use at Freddy's.
William in his grief over Elizabeth and/or bruised ego over being saved by Henry, throws the Funtime Bonnie suit into the SL bunker. Never to be seen until Mike is placed into it as way to narratively drive home that he looks like his father while trying not to follow in his footsteps, and not get got by a bunny suit.
Baby describes the suit as not having been used the way it was meant to be, as William didn't get to kill/kidnap any kids using it (the purpose of the Funtimes). Because it's 'too dangerous' to be worn, slightly amused as she knows she is a massive murder machine and ol' Willy A couldn't stand a little bit of springlocking.
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Im ABSOLUTELY behind God Victim btw.
I like arcade theory more because of the "what happens out there has an effect in here" line from FNAF World, but God Victim is already a trope in media and seems more likely to be what scott was going for,
with that said,
if we find out balloon boy predates 1983, it'll pretty much deconfirm it
14 likes, keep it there forever
Absolutely agree that Mike had the nightmares before their appearance in FNAF 4’s nighttime gameplay!
The survival logbook clearly implies Mike suffered from nightmares (these were likely naturally occurring thanks to his five nights spent at the FNAF 1 location).
Then Cassidy uses these nightmarish depictions of the animatronics to torture William in a personalized nightmare. Cassidy is also further inspired by Mike’s experiences at the FNAF 1 location as shown by them manifesting a version of the crying child’s bedroom with two doors on either side, with Bonnie attacking from the left and Chica from the right - just like they had hounded Mike in real life.
This is also why you occasionally hear a distorted FNAF 1 phone guy clip - Mike has already survived five nights.
I talk about this in my video “Nightmare Theory” if you wanna hear more :33
The amount of back we’re experiencing right now has reached mythical proportions
Man I love watching these videos because I remember the revelations chat had in real time.
You’ve been making better and better content Tdreads, great job!
I’m pretty sure “what is seen in the shadows is easily misunderstood in the mind of a child” has nothing to do with what CC saw at the pizzeria. I’m 99% sure it’s talking about the nightmare animatronics. Kids mistake shadows as monsters at night, and you literally see the Freddy and Foxy plus get replaced with the nightmares during the main gameplay. I think Scott was trying to say the Nightmare animatronics were illusions with that hint
the moment i saw lefty again i knew something was going down
8:35 bro got vocals
When You Dropping The Andrew Single
What if happiest day didn't set the mci free because they're memories were swapped
okay, hear me out. MCI is 5 kids going missing: Gabriel, Jeremy, Suzie, Fritz and Cassidy. 4 kids that went missing under the same circumstances and 1 kid that got a different scenario. 4.1. 1.4. 14. Golden Freddy is represented as a number 14 because it is possessed by one of the children that died differently than the rest.
Im not sure man,with the exception of the colour of Bonnie being noticably darker in those drawings,I think it's a stretch to say those definitely aren't the toys. Those drawings could also have been brought in from the previous location or Scott just didn't think about it. Especially since Phone Guy says they STARTED (implying that they never finished) retrofitting the old animatronics but somebody decided they were too ugly and smelly so they made the toys instead.
Couldn't have been brought from the previous location since the drawings were made for a "new" Freddy Fazbear's location
@Querez8504 Assuming that the previous location wouldn't have been known as "new" at some point (like,being a new brand/pizzeria entirely),yes. But I still think it could just be that Scott didn't care enough to have the colours be ever so slightly brighter
@satsujin-shathewitchkingof6185 Yeah, I'm not refuting the possibility of that. I still think it's a point worth discussing though.
@Querez8504 Fair
What if 1983 on tv commercial is not the year when FNAF 4 takes place but rather the year the Freddy band was made. Like "Since 1983"? Because why tf would anyone display current year on a fricking TV commercial?
That essentially gets rid of the two bites theory, leaving us with only the bite of '87 which is EXACTLY what Scott was planning to do all along but the audience got confused
That's cool and all but Scott himself already confirmed the Fredbear bite happened in 1983 by telling people to watch a video made by MatPat that confirms WillTrap and Bite of 83
Sure, but from a story telling perspective. Why would Scott include a year in the game... if thats not the year the game is set in?
@@aliendilo3105 I dunno to clarify when were toy animatronics made? It's not that it changes anything but I think that if FNAF 4 was the final chapter then Scott just wanted to explain everything in the universe
@@Mr.LeoNov Why would that be important? And why would that be more important than to clarify "Actually this isn't the bite of 87"?
@user-gd4fu3sf5i scott just retconned it
12:53 i think cc seeing the bear move around like a ghost kinda explains why abby in the fnaf movie could see the spirits of the mci victims.. im going insane because no one said anything about why she’s able to do that but if the plush bear is a ghost which explains why it teleports maybe my theory is correct because we dont have a cc in the fnaf movie but we do have a abby 🤔 guys what if abby’s auntie end up killing her in fnaf 2 ?
Also abby could be our circus baby 🤔 i think i see where scott is going with these fnaf movies .. hmm maybe i should become a theorist and put my claims out there because i cant be the only one who thinks this
i haven't seen a lot of casual/lighthearted fnaf theory content, i really really like this
1:17:37 WE NEED A FULL VERSION PLEASE 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
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@ YO ITS GIBI
now we have them all
For the Unwithered theory I have another problem with it being set in the summer.
Fritz is explicitly shown to be the 3rd guard working there. Hes listed as employee num. 3 on his termination notice. That was a detail not present in fnaf 1 and is too specific to just be random. That along with the use of the term Summer Job means you have to have a whole lot of evidence to proove it was open before now, and these drawings arent that.
11:25 To me this is evidence for alter-M theory. What psychic friend fredbear is doing is *narrating*. "This is how the crying child feels. This is the context for the situation. This is why he won't go to the left side off the screen". Whoever he is is telling the crying child what happened in the lead up to his death so he remembers he's dead. No other characterization explains all of the pre-final night (where it potentially transitions into what Dave actually heard first) dialogue.
23:44 I've figured out what it is. It's the main four getting their Remmant homogenized. That's a term I coined recently, but it's what William did to the Remnant he took from the main four, mixing it all together, and putting it inside the Funtimes. This destroys any unquie personality contained within the Remnant, which is why the Funtimes only have their AI personalities. That kind of thing would be a violation that is very new, unlike getting murdered. And it messes with the main four's ability to move on, until Molten Freddy is destroyed. Which is also why Follow Me is so important that it's what Henry has his insanity ending message about. It's what William did which is worse than murder (cause in pure body count bro isn't making the top thousand). Dave is shattered because he technically dies twice, once when chomped by Fredbear and a second time when he's taken off life support. The second part of his essence is just around (I can't buy Gibi's idea that it haunts the Fredbear plush in SL because that wouldn't have any metal. But it could be agony possessed ala the real Jake and og Ella), unable to move on like a normal death because the rest of it is in Fredbear. Andrew's essence being scattered across the objects prevents him from moving on, but it isn't a great violation. Because that Remnant wasn't homogenized. Spooky eyes doesn't understand that the rest of Dave's essence no longer has a physical counterpart, but they want to get it all in place by doing Fnaf world before something bad happens, cause they're a traumatized child
1:16:07 When i first heard leftydci, I was a believer in cassidci, but now I believe in toydci and five-teen theory. And leftyDCI has really good syngery with my super out there theory that the fire that killed Andrew and his killer and put the Puppet in police evidence happened at the fnaf2 location after it closed. This damaged the toys so much that Entertainment actually got rid of them, instead of keeping them around like they did with the classics and now the mimic. For how the fire was tied to one of the founders, I just threw out there that William and Henry were poking around so much the police found is supcious. But LeftyDCI gives an actual thing for Henry to do, securing the Remenant in the toys and attempting to secure the puppet (to which the police say "no, this is evidence"). So short the puppet and Henry not knowing at this point how to destroy Remenant (and being intermittely lucid), Lefty goes into storage. Shortly afterwards, my theory about what happened to Henry during the 30 year time skip comes into play. (Tries to kill himself, needs decades to heal from the brain damage he gave himself trying to create robo!Charlie).
👀 fredbear is narrating, you say?
@HorrorHomestead yep works great with arcade theory. Especially since that narration style is very common in video games
I still think that it would make more sense that William is blaming Mike and saying "this is how Dave felt, this is what he thought, this is what went through his head every time because of what you used to do to him" as part of a brainwashing program. Because I am utterly sane about this.
Wait, wait, wait. Hold the frick up. In God Victim, Dave's death influences people's minds. That's literally "the field" from Fazbear Frights. Holy heck, someone tell Gibi!
Oh, I KNOW
The field in the books also explains how God victim's influence feels on other living people. He's not compelling them, he's just giving them urges/ideas, and the kids who destroy Mangle and Balloon boy's designer are like "sure why not".
This video is 87 minutes long. TDreads is the bite victim
That's the purple guy's sonnn
I love the work you're doing! These community based discussions are some of the most interesting in a while and actually generate interesting ideas
The Lefty theory is peak. I never would’ve thought of looking at the bot that way.
I just wanna give a big thanks to you and the rest of the theorists. The streams and theories have sparked a new interest in this franchise, and made theory crafting fun again. You guys also spotted some great stuff and seem close to nailing the lore.
Thanks for the entertainment and be sure to find the hidden 14’s I placed within this youtube comment.
On "what was William testing for?" around 7 minutes in - I think he's realised remnant/possession happens specifically around fear? Or pain? Not as in Agony... But as in, he saw how CC specifically died to his biggest fear and then possessed it. If you had just discovered ghosts it seems like a thing you'd question: "OK if ghosts haunting stuff is real, why is this not common knowledge?" From there he goes through the factors that made CC's death stand out, including "being terrified of animatronics." Maybe he tested the gas on Mike, but then tested the other kids, made them scared of animatronics, and killed them to see if their fear was a factor in helping them become trapped spirits
47:45 things a fnaf theorist says to themselves daily for 1000
[29:10] Also, in FNAF World, the move Gift Boxes can revive dead characters. This move can only be used by a handful of characters, such as Funtime Foxy, Shadow Bonnie, Coffee and the CRYING CHILD!
Edit: I also think that the Crying Child is in Molten Freddy in FNAF 6, because one of his lines in that game is "One big happy family!", so William in Scraptrap, Elizabeth in Scrapbaby, Micheal, (maybe Ms. Afton if you believe she possesses Ballora) and the Crying Child in Molten Freddy.
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12:12 what if it's on speaker? like the fredbear's speaker & that is why the guy in the suit went to check the only kid inside the building.
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Its funny how they are actually taking the bite of 87 seriously again for years its been nothing but a meme
Five bodies could be stitched together to make 1 body...
Or they're stitched together to make 1 *coffin* for the puppet.
The voices in my head are screaming at whole UnWithered Drawings Theory
I have this crackpot theory that FNAF 2 is actually after FNAF 1, and the weird design change of the classic is because Scott is inconsistent with designs. The evidence is simple, Scraptrap.
Springtrap and scraptrap are not even close in design, yet, they are the same character. So maybe FNAF 2 was a sequel, not a prequel, all along
loved the psychic friend cover!!
14 IS AFTON'S VICTIM COUNT, 5 MCI, 5 DCI, 3 Afton kids and Charlie
15:30 (yeah I know it's not the right timing but who cares)
Sorry, if before we've already said that this gane was suppose to be about the bite of 87 but than changed into the bite of 83, i personally think that the toys being... well, toys, is just a thing Scott putted to show that this game and FNaF 2 were connected (enphasis on the "were")
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I fucking love you guys and your videos! I've been pogging from the hype revalations and laughing my ass off because you guys are genuinely funny as fuck, you all have natural chemistry together that gels beautifuly. Please make more videos where you guys are together like this, it very much sparks joy!
I'm surprised y'all didn't mention it, but in UCN, Nightmare Fredbear has _two_ underlying voices: the high-pitched one, and TOYSNHK's. I think the high-pitched voice is probably Dave, since the "we know who are friends are" and "put you back together" are massive references to Dave's final cutscene with Psychic Friend Fredbear ("We are still your friends", "I will put you back together"). That and Dave's death being caused by Fredbear, so Nightmare Fredbear makes sense to be the animatronic he would speak through.
4:20 whenever you guys do a michael impression it’s so stupid 😭😭
I think a good stream idea would be watching through the old fnaf theories from 2014-15 with other theorists
LOOP Idea - What is UCN answers FNAF4's cutscenes? What if UCN is a loop because William Afton had promised to put his son back together, trapping him in a looping nightmare until happiest day? What if Happiest Day "released" Dave Afton from his groundhog's day loop and instead of passing on with the MCI, he became Vengeful? What if UCN is Dave Afton repeating what his father did to him; trapping him in a scenario that is inescapable? And the puppet is 'busy', as it says in UCN; uninterested now in helping either Afton move on? What if the OMC bit in UCN is showing us the possible ending the Vengeful Spirit COULD have? One in which he is watching TV with Mike and Elizabeth? But then the final scene is what Dave actually chooses; to stay, forever, torturing his father again and again?
Ooo that's cool
You have a pattern of breaking things.
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What if it's Mrs. Afton asking William what he's doing? Since it is colored text and we've never seen nor heard her talk before... And the red text is never used again in the franchise to my knowledge
A theory I've always held onto is that Golden Freddy and Fredbear are two very separate characters in universe. Other than the fact they are both yellow (Or gold), they don't actually share much. Their hats are different colours, even to the extent where in the UCN Easter egg, Goldenfreddy has his black bowtie, and the brief shot of Fredbear has a purple bowtie. The same is true in fnafworld, which used its soft restart to change several of the other character designs. If Fredbear and Goldenfreddy are meant to be the same, why wouldn't Scott had retextured golden Freddy's hat.
So, my idea is, its Golden Freddy who has Cassidy, but Fredbear who has Crying Child.
What if the lamp being the same in the Fnaf 4 hallway and Michael's living room is supposed to show that Michael lives in the testing house? It would make sense why Ennard can get inside so easily in the fake ending since the buildings are connected.
22:19 One difference is that i don't think Bite Victim was stuffed into a suit and hes buried in midnight motorist mount in the woods. They wont let him be stuffed.
Ok so, The biggest thing i agree with is Lefty being the DCI, It all aligns too well and lefty always felt so... Strange. The main reason i feel alot of people just put aside the whole "Fuse" part of LEFTE was because they had thought the more simple answer of "Oh i get it like fuse with the puppet seems simple enough" But the consistant imagry of 5 and even the repeated candy cadet story of 5 in i believe it was help wanted 2? Made me scepticle on what the 5 to 1 really meant. This seems to make alot of sense to me personally and i think its a solid and likely theory.
Plus a little side note, The puppet saying things like "The others are like animals, But i am very aware" Seems like maybe LEFTE is so agressive due to all the other spirits Though the main figure head is still the puppet (ie The voice.)
I feel like it was retconned between 2 n 3 to be Michel instead of William as the player. That's why Golden Freddy is so confusing. I think Golden Freddy haunts William as Cassidy but haunts Michael as cc. I think that's why William was experimenting on Michael. Maybe 4 brought in cc to disconnect Michael from William's murder victims and give him a reason to be there.
If in SL afton was trying to make artificial agony from animatronics it makes sense that they would be sentient. Self awareness and a certain degree of intelligence must be necessary to produce agony.
Lefte DCI is phenomenal! Love it!
I SOLVED IT!! Crying Chlid is NESS!! I KNEW IT!!!
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The real reason for Aftons murderous rampage was Michael stealing his lamp
So I’ve been an advocate of Digital Agony being a newer thing with Security Breach, ESPECIALLY with the more human like emotions from these animatronics and the race car moving on its own, almost as if it’s finally a direct example of agony infecting objects in the games
But regardless of that, suggesting this was being experimented with all the way back in SL brings up another idea I’ve had. That Lolbit is an Agony creature. Created by all the SL events, and now with this idea the actual agony of the animatronics.
ive thought this before but i know it doesnt makes sense in the design/space but what if baby is the springlock suit that was not used in the intended way (as it killed elizabeth when it should have just trapped her). i mean we know that the suits are meant to capture kids, not kill them, william wanted to experiment with agony and if the kid dies then he doesn't have an experiment anymore. idk cause the suits probably arent big enough for a adult/teen, but michael could just be a smaller build and fit anyway. also baby never says its a spring lock suit, we are all assuming that it is. but the screws falling off to me just seam like the suite would then fall apart not launch something in towards the suite. idk idk man if i posted "the spring lock suit we are trapped in sister location isnt a springlock and its actualy just Baby" id get flamed lmao.
59:00 i just had a brain blast, what if the reason the mask is so FLAT in night 4 is because it's a variant of ennard's mask.
Wait he says ONE of the orphans houses. So they weren’t living together and they were in houses already? Maybe they were foster kids that were treated badly?
1:15:21 5 points on his star too, but that’s a detail on the other rockstars so idk
Could the spring lock suit in the scooper room have been fun time Chica???
And that’s why we don’t see Funtime chica in the scooping room, because it got taken out by the technicians
That’s why it’s in the catalogue
Also, Michael had a jar of pickles in his pocket
Fun fact:
Granny has the most popular Fan Song(made by FGeeTV) yet the living tombstone fan song is more known
"We overanalyzed every FNaF Game!"
FNaF World:Did ya? 😏
Editing is way too good for how old your channel is 🔥
I can't stop laughing at 4:19 help
Honestly these aren't too crazy, these are pretty reasonable.
My first reaction to the title: so you broke it more then it did to MatPat?
"All the light bulbs were there" 😂😂😂
I always thought the Sister Location suit was Ennard's mask and its original casing
1 hour and 30 minutes of peak.
These were fun to watch. But i'm gonna have to bot those likes to 4k. We need the 24 Hour Stream for SB and Ruin.
EDIT 38:00 Yes Tdreads, you're seeing the truth.
I want to be a Fnaf UA-camr just because they all seem friendly with each other. At least the majority of
Which is why I am making my own theory on an alt about the who is 1st to die and it will probably be the only video I ever make
You're like my favorite theorist now
Ive loved the overanalyzing streams
Something I think needs addressing is what the RASC is. Maybe its just me but just reading the blueprints doesn't scream "audio lure" but something different, especially with the C in the name being left out. Also it comes with the other 2 blueprints which have major lore reveals such as LEFTE being a container for souls and the scooper being an injector and not an extractor. Someone smarter than me might wanna look into it...
8:20 - Henry said William set a trap? What trap? The Funtimes? He set a trap where? I don't remember that line.
It's in 6's insanity ending, and is probably describing follow me until William gets springlocked
Given the fact ennard is where the rest of the animatronics spirits are is it possible the night 4 suit might have been used for ennards body?
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Happiest day is a memory Cc has but it's so clouded with bad ones that Charlie couldn't find the memory so it made up a new one, Cassidy found the happiest memory unlocking the box, I think thats why theres the image of the unlocked box in FNAF world?GODVICTIM maybe? MCI couldn't pass till the happiest day was found, i kinda believe that MCI passed but its their agony that still control the animatronics or Cassidy's