BERGARA B14R; BEST .22LR TRAINER ON THE MARKET??
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- Опубліковано 11 вер 2024
- BERGARA B14R
Today we take a look at the Bergara B14R for the second time, but this time with a context around comparing it to the other .22lr trainers on the market. Lots of scope cam footage on this one, hope you guys enjoy.
P.S. Sorry about the audio, mic wasn't working.
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This has been the best presentation of the attributes of this rifle that I've seen on YT! Great job Josh! Thanks for putting in the time and effort my friend!
Thanks brother.
Not to mention he shoots dead nuts..lol.💯
Love your work Josh.
Absolutely my favourite channel these days.
I always enjoy quality unbiased reviews.
Thanks Daniel
Awesome video. I must admit I'm a little jealous about having your own range out to 150 yards.
182 yards.......but whos counting 🤣🤣
Thanks for commenting
Awesome video. I took my B-14R out today for first time. Super impressed. Hardest thing was trying to quit shooting it.
Lol nice
Just saw this video, thank you for your in depth analysis. Just got one yesterday. Will try to work out the bolt to see how stiff it is.
Purchased two of these.
One for me one for my wife.
Fantastic right out of the box but I found a few traits which exhibited room for improvement.
- disassembled the bolt and polished everything. Bolt runs slick now. A part of the problem seems to be excess cerakote on contact surfaces.
- installed IBI 1:12 20" drop in barrel. Original barrel worked well out to about 250 yards. IBI barrel will put shots on target on a 2/3 IPSC all day at 400 yards.
Tested it same day / same conditions against stock Rimex and Vudoo using the favored ammunition of each rifle - the modified Bergara B14R beat them both in all categories.
Important to note that even after the modifications the Bergara is still significantly less expensive than either the Rimex or the Vudoo.
Nice. Ive heard the bolts could be slicked up but havent tried yet as I havent owned any of the b14r that I have had on the channel
Better deal than the Vudoo.
You know what ... I think that's made my mind up. Bergara B14 Trainer for my first rifle. Can't go wrong - it'll definitely shoot a damn site better than I can, plus at the pice point it'll be great for plinking and practice.
Puts some "J-B" compound on the bolt and cycle it while watching TV.
Fair enough, its a loaner rifle so the owner will have to do that haha
Continuing with great videos! Loving them Josh.
I got my B14r to replace my aging CZ455, which was having issues later this summer. Disclaimer, my centerfire precision rifles are both Bergara B14 HMRs.
After 400 rounds, my B14r is loving my lot of Center-X (initially, not so much). My first KYL match with it, I not only cleared the entire match with a perfect score against Annie's and CZs, (something I was not able to do with the CZ), but the next day I went to another KYL match and won that one too (missed another perfect score on the last shot! My fault - still getting used to the 2-stage TriggerTech I put in). Very impressive rifle - really helping to restore my confidence and fun!
PS, the bolt is not the smoothest to close, but I'm used to it now. My friends CZ 457s and Tikkas are much better in this regard.
One quick update - I have since replaced the barrel on the CZ455 with an IBI 22" Olympic barrel, and holy cow! It has revived that old CZ, and may be a hair more consistent than the B14r.
Nice. Sounds like you have two great setups
I’ve had mine for about a month and so far it’s been nothing short of amazing. I’ve run CCI, SK, and Lapua through it and the Lapua Center X shoots really well!
Great job Josh. Love the lead weights on the feeder behind you.
Really enjoy all of your instructional videos and your Toyz are Bad Azzz
Thank you for not adding any music to your videos 👍
Thanks
Good shooting as always! Seems like a decent rifle for the price if you have a full size center fire rifle of a similar pattern. I don’t though, so I’ll stick with my 457.
Great review mate. Would be the best on youtube . Bought one of these 2 months ago. Very happy with it .
Omgosh!!! 😢😢 I am so touched and honored... wow!!
Thanks so much Gilly!!!!!!!!
Most accurate 22lr I have ever bought when shooting with fellow VETS I have to miss a few on purpose so they will still play with me!😂
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Nicely done Josh! I really like my B14 HMR 6.5C. Right now handloading components are hard to come by so I'm going slow on centerfire but having a ball with my Christensen Ranger. With the right ammo, it makes 1 hole at 51 yards. Love it!
Nice
the Ranger's trigger is very hard, even adjusted. I replaced it with a 4oz trigger and welded the bolt's handle to the bolt, which is horrible. Ranger is the worst rifle I've ever purchased. even worse than the cheaper Rugers. love my 8 CZs, my three B14 Rs and my 17 Rugers.
I have two of these rifles and looking at the new sporter model. These guns will not eat any old 22lr. He does a great job of wringing out the best of the best of his rifle. These rifles will not sit in just any old chassis or stock the mags ride lower in aftermarket stocks and the lack of a feed ramp make bringing the round to battery.
Have really enjoyed my b14r, I'm on the second year using it in NRL 22 matches. Only changes I made were Trigger Tech trigger and swapping stock out to a krg Bravo stock. Trying to put an Arca rail on the factory stock caused some small issues and the factory stock is a little slick. All in all no regrets at all for buying my bergara.22.
Awesome rifles
I'm looking at the B14r. I haven't seen any real accuracy testing between the steel vs carbon barrel. Do you think they are both fairly comparable?
I really liked the b14r I had but mine was vertically stringing until I put a ats tuner on it. Awesome video!
Hey Josh
We came out of lockdown last night after 3 months , I was at the range this morning waiting it to open , Man after not shooting for 3 months my whole game had gone south it took me about 60 rounds to get back where I was before we we’re locked up , it really showed everything how important practice is , ended up ok I’m back to around.2 - .3s at 50 yards so I’m happy with that , on another note for interest sake I checked the price of a B14R barreled action $1175.00 over here , we’re really being shafted on anything firearm related , have a great weekend Mate . Aussie Steve .
Awesome Steve!!!!! Yeah going without practice definitely hurts
I am a guy who likes punch in a cartridge; the 22 caliber lacking in that department, so if one is going to buy one, make it accurate the plus size. The 10-22 has sat many years with nothing to do, thirty years old. Thank you for sharing your video.
Most honest and informative shooting videos bar none.
Thanks Mike
Man I want one of those stocks so bad for my b14r. My b14r loves cci sv and it has zero cold bore shot. I just love mine man. I thought my CZ 457 lrp was a beast till I got my bergara broke in and found the ammos it prefers which is eley match/about anything SK does fairly well and cci sv but it seems to prefer eley match. I can clear run my DM targets KYL rack almost every time without a miss at 50yds with cci sv. Oh and the bolt close doesnt seem to bother me at all, not sure if it got easier with use or I got use to it. My 16yo niece also seems to have no problem with it. I also however do not shoot it in matches yet.
ALMOST $1500.00, ITS THERE BUT I WILL KEEP MY MASTERPIECE ARMS CHASSIS FOR $640.00😉
It does take about 20 rounds to re-coat the barrel after cleaning. My rifle head spaces at .043". It likes Lapua/SK. Eley not so much. Trigger is a Shilen Competition set at 6 oz. I dropped the torque down to 45 in/lb. It is a better deal than a CZ 457 Precision Trainer. Runs about 100-150 dollars less. OTOH add the Shilen trigger and you are at the same price.
I chamfered and polished the lead angles on the locking surfaces of the bolt and have eliminated the bolt issues.
Great content! Enjoyed watching as always. Keep it up! 👍🏻
like your professional style shooting. the shoots are quick paced and well photographed. i also enjoyed your shoot off with the cyclopse joe.
Thanks
Great video if you put some jewellers polishing compound in the action and then cycle it for say 3 quarters of a football game, then clean thoroughly you will have a significantly smoother product 😊
Great review, have several Bergara rifles , leaning towards this barreled action to throw next to my 6.5 creedmoor in a double case and just throw stock on what ever I’m shooting . Love the stock on the hmr pro
great i want a bergara now too. great video josh.
Thanks Cameron
Another great video, I have a B14R haven't shot it yet still in the process on setting it up. Keep up the great videos
Nice video Josh, not sure what brand of ammo you was using but that was some nice grouping after it grooved in. The KYL shoot at 100 yards is a good test for the ammo and Bergara.
It was random lots of rws r50
Great video Josh 😉 You can’t speak enough of that Go Pro camera I would like too see more of an in depth video review of the camera how youn set it up and where to buy one etc… I would also like some more explanation on the dialing the turrents as you dial so fast at different distances without counting the clicks is pretty amazing too me 🤔 😀
Good rifle, Good shooting, Good price. More than adequate for what I do.
Another no BS video.
Keepem coming 👍
Thanks Mark
I've had a carbon version. My bolt is terrible hard too close. Josh, you know I've been shooting benchrest with mine. My carbon cost 1200$ after taxes and shipping plus my local taxes.
The Timminy Custom Calvin Elite trigger in mine made a big difference. The ATS tuner helps too. I'll be letting mine go after I test my new Benchrest rifle for a few weeks. Good video again
Thanks Richard. As always good info
Another great video, it doesn't look as good as the CZ457 . Thanks
I love my B-14. It is much less picky on ammo than my MTR. It loves all sk ammo and their semi-auto shot the best 50yd group I’ve ever shot. It’s my squirrel rifle as well as target. Thanks.
Awesome
Cheapest Trainer? I feel the term "most affordable" is more appropriate. I love mine and would really like to have a carbon barrel version to compliment it. It likes BBM 40gr and and consistently makes a ragged hole at 50 yds - when I'm on my game. Nice shooting groups, great vid, keep up the good work.
Thanks
The bolt on my B14r is really smooth compared to the one you are shooting. Great review!!
GOT ONE AND LOVE IT
Another great video Josh. I am very impressed by the accuracy of the Bergara. How does the action compare to your CZ? It looks like it might be a 90 degree bolt. Is the CZ action much smoother?
The cz action is as smooth with less tension for bolt throw and lift. Bergara is 90
Good video as always
Excellent review ! 👍
Thanks Jerry
Wow great video, what stock do you have on it ? Love it, need one like it on mine.
An excellent barrel!
Great review ,Josh. So many choices nowadays.
Great time to be into rimfires
My dad picked up a Bergara and I have not shot it yet. Looks like a good tool to have
Good rifles
What stock is that?? I absolutely love the look. Is it the stock of your vudoo? If so, did you use the vudoo bottom metal or the Bergara bottom metal?
Great video thanks Josh!
My B14r shoots great...the bolt throw is it's only downside. Great review!
Thanks
Love the content, having your own range is sweet. What did your cz 457 group like with the original cz barrel? Perhaps I've missed that one. Lilja at 450 is not an inexpensive upgrade. One other viewer asked regarding testing Anschutz, that I'd like 64 action MPR.
Stock cz barrel has shot .35" with ammo it liked
@@PursuitofAccuracy At 50 yards?
@@FT86TT yeah 50 yards
Jeez, I have two B14R's. While you can feel the "two stage" bolt, neither of mine seem to be as stiff as yours appears. I think your spot on with your overall assessment though. These are really nice rifles at any price. That said, there is always room in the safe for a few CZ 457's too ! ;-)
The bergara is nice. I probably over emphasize the bolt throw but its the one disernable real feel difference between the bergara and a vudoo / rimx
@@PursuitofAccuracy Mine don't seem so bad but then again, I'm not competing with them. That said, somebody over on the B14R facebook site has figured out how to smoothen the action out a bit. I have not tried it myself though. Thanks again for your honest assessments.
Thumbs up again for the cat. I've got this in a lefty steel and a righty carbon. I'll get a BMR also if that SA-35 that just dropped doesn't get my gun money first.
The cat appreciates it
Good review!
The sticky bolt is a feature. It gives you the feeling of an actual modern-production Remington 700.
Lmao
Good video 💥
Love the camo stock however I can’t seem to find this rifle in this configuration online anywhere. Great video. Thanks for the information.
Yeah thats an aftermarket stock, manners tcs.
I’m awaiting my UK licence and have shot a friends B14r and B14HMR. I love them both and buying the B14r barrelled action to go in a chassis, probably MDT XRS and I’ve paid for the B14 BMP already 😄
That's what I did with my Bergara 6.5, 2 screws and done, it's awesome.
Nice! Still waiting for the licens for my B14r. But I’m going with the carbon barrel, to reduce a little weight to be able to hunt with it.
But the t-shirt I ordered has arrived in Sweden!
I'd be weary of the carbon barrel ive seen some inconsistencies in accuracy of some. If you can stick with the steel.
Awesome
I have one and my bolt throw is as smooth as can be. I’d call bergara if i was you.
Great video Josh, just like to know, if you had to pick your CZ or the Bergara, which one will you pick?
Only one.........CZ
Yup. Love my B14R...able to be competitive against Vudoo’s at our local matches. Agree on the bolt closing, got over 5K in my B14R and still stiff to close the bolt. What stock is that?
The manners tcs stock
What optic are you running in this video?
Would I trade my CZ457 for that? Nope. Great shooting as always.
Haha thanks Jim
I love my bergara B14R I only noticed the bolt closing hard sometimes. I assumed it was a rim thickness issue.
Mine actually doesnt seem near as bad as the one in this video. Granted i cant feel the one in this video obviously but from watching him close it mine seems nowhere near this hard.
Im sure some are less stiff and some are more stiff.
Salut Josh, I recall from previous videos the significance you have placed on maintaining the cheek “weld (?)” in order to maintain consistency, which is of course important in maintaining tight groups. You stressed it when coaching your daughter. You illustrated here that keeping the ridicule on the target was well nigh impossible. For that reason this rifle does not interest me. Both my CZ 457s have very smooth bolt actions with less than 1000 rounds through each. And as my centre fire rifles are also CZ not REM 700 actions again there is no motive to buy one. Excellent review as always. RB.
You can maintain a cheek weld but the bolt close does make it hard to keep the rifle in position when working the bolt
Looks an awesome rifle.. please review a lithgow la101. 22 !
They don't import the Lithgow at this time I email them last week and they are working on get back in the USA next year, maybe for now , NO
As always,...great video. What optic was used on this rifle ?
Athlon Cronus
Josh, great review ..
The action was $750 correct?
And the I didn't get the price... And
Mind me asking which paint scheme that is on that Manners chassis? Great video by the way. I'm a CZ guy also but just recently picked up a B14 I haven't shot yet. Thanks for what you do.
I appreciate it. I actually dont know what the pattern was called, gap or something like that
Just found your channel. Subbed now
Awesome, thanks!
Hey Josh! Question. Which one is better out of the box: Bergara or CZ 457?
Better in terms of?
What can you do to smooth that action out. I absolutely love the video very informative, keep the great information coming
Give it time and if there is something to be done it will be found and posted on the net. These are just now starting to become popular it seems.
Good review. Is the B14R's feeding and ejection sensitive to pressure on the mag when loaded against a barricade? I've heard that this can be an issue with some 700-footprint 22LR rifles.
I didnt experience that but it is possible with different stocks etc.
Hey Josh! Please review a carbon barrel B14?
Same but not as consistent as the steel barreled version according to a few videos and forum posts ive seen.
Love the channel, I know your partial to cz but thoughts on stock CZ 457 precision trainer vs bergara b14R?
I like the bergara over the cz if we are looking at stock rifles.
The bergara is a good rifle. Now if i can swap to a lilja barrel im on the cz bandwagon all the way
Do any of your buddies have an Anschutz that you might be able to review? I'm considering buying one at some point and would be very interested in your opinion before spaffing that kind of dough. Thanks.
Im actively looking to get one on the channel
If you still have access to the B14R I would be curious if changing the trigger helps that bolt close. I know my safety was stiff with the factory trigger, but testing an after market one made a big difference
Im trying to get one for the channel
That stiff bolt issue can be very easily fixed.
I still think I'll keep my CZ 457lrp. It shoots better than I can.
I was shopping both and the gun store owner steered me towards the LRP (his words, "it's better" and was $200 less). I now own a B14R. Action feel; advantage 457, but accuracy @ 50 yds, B14R hands down. It's more consistent. However, with that said, I have a CZ455 Mini Sniper that shoots more accurate than my old LRP and my current B14R @ 100 yds. On a good day, a few sub-moa groups @ 100 yds. Can't explain it, it just does it.
Verygood
Nice shooting
Thanks
Man I hope my carbon barrel version shoots consistent like that.
Me too
Great video - what rear bag did you use in the video? Thanks
Game changer pint size
Norma tac22 does pretty good in my b14r still testing ammo to see what mine like the best! Go to do some ammo test on my cz457 tomorrow but if I cant find a ammo the will group in it, it will be get a new barrel
Hopefully you find the combo that delivers
How does it compare to the savage B22 series? Ibe heard the bolts on the savages are exceptional for their price point
Very nice
I wonder if some fine lapping compound on the bolt lugs could smooth that bolt throw up?
Josh sorry to drift off topic but a friend a mine recently picked this rifle up and has had a few trips to the range but his groups at 25 seems awful and he has more excuses than a hi-capacity magazine but mainly there seems to be a lot of "the barrels gotta get broke in first" but my experience is that most barrels either shoot well or they don't and typically its down to ammunition preference due to harmonics ect. whats your thoughts ? Would love to see a barrel break in opinion video one day!
Yeah he just hasnt found the right ammo.
There is no break in process for 22lr barrels from bergara or quality manufacturers.
I borescope my barrels and they are all very nicely finished straight from the factory
@@PursuitofAccuracy go figure he's willing to buy the premium rifle but doesn't wanna pop for the high octane fuel ;D
@@fromsoftnewbie4423 haha
I’m in the market for a 22 for PRS. I’ve watched nearly every video on UA-cam. None of the rifles are perfect, whichever one you look at. Apart from the stiff bolt close and the 90 degree action the Bergara is pretty damn close….
Compare Bergara to your CZ MTR production class video? Same price point, same scope. Like both? Trying to make a decision.
The bergaras hard to beat for the price but its not as consistently reliable as the 457
Good afternoon!!!! what bipod are you running on that bad boy?
I have one on order
Thanks for the video, any advice on the B14 versus the CZ At-One? The B14 is a little more expensive but I’m wondering if it’s worth it.
The b14r is worth it if your going to use it as a trainer for a 700 action big gun. Its also very accurate and very fun to shoot. Quality rifle
Any plans to shoot groups with the Kidd super grade from a few months ago?
Yeah just waiting on some ammo to come in. Its in my gun room now
KIDD’s are nice and fun to shoot
Oh sure now I think I need to ad another to the collection. 10-22 custom, 452, 455, 457, Tikka T1x, Bergara BXR, Looking at the BMR and now the B14R, this nonsense has got to stop. :)
How do you compare it to the 457MTR?
Its very comparible in the terms of accuracy and reliability. The b14 is more $$ but it is 700sa compatible and your getting a better stock for prs style shooting
Hey josh do you think that cz457 virmint precision stock makes more accurate than any cz457 stocks?✋✋
The manners is the best stock offered for the cz 457 in my opinion
I concur