The Mystery of Daicon IV: The COOLEST anime of all time?

Поділитися
Вставка
  • Опубліковано 22 чер 2022
  • Go to thld.co/immi_toygalaxy_0622 and use code toygalaxy5 at checkout to save $5 on your order. Thanks to Immi for sponsoring this video!
    Experience the classic anime fan film that started it all!
    The Daicon IV Opening Animation is a beloved animated short created by a group of college students in Japan in 1983. Featuring characters from the popular culture like Space Battleship Yamato, Star Wars, Super Sentai, Superman, Batman, Gundam and even Sesame Street, this film is a must-see for any anime fan. Learn about the history and background of this groundbreaking film, and discover its lasting impact on the anime industry and pop culture.
    Notably Hideaki Anno who went on to create Neon Genesis Evangelion and direct such films as Shin Godzilla worked on both films
    The Daicon III and IV Opening Animations are also known for their unusually high production values for amateur works and for including numerous references to otaku culture, as well as the unauthorized appropriations of the Playboy Bunny costume.
    Daicon Archives: / daiconarchives
    Mockingbird Music Twilight Cover: • ELO - Twilight / Melod...
    Kineko Video on Twitter: / kinekovideo
    CollectionDX General Products piece: www.collectiondx.com/blog/spa...
    More Information: www.cjas.org/~leng/daicon.htm
    Help the channel continue to grow by checking out our Patreon: / toygalaxy
    To become a UA-cam channel member:
    ua-cam.com/users/toygalaxytvjoin
    Follow Us on Twitch for Hot Livestream Action:
    / toygalaxy
    Second Channel:
    / @toygalaxy
    Follow Dan on Instagram:
    / toygalaxy
    Toy Galaxy
    P.O. box 3976
    Manchester, NH 03105-3976
    Business Inquiries:
    toygalaxytv@gmail.com
    / toygalaxytv
    / toygalaxytv
    teespring.com/stores/toy-galaxy
  • Розваги

КОМЕНТАРІ • 444

  • @malcomalexander9437
    @malcomalexander9437 2 роки тому +102

    So fun fact, the sword that girl was riding in Daicon 4 was apparently Stormbringer, from Michael Moorcock's Elric Saga.

    • @macdeath69
      @macdeath69 10 місяців тому +7

      or Mournblade... 😄

  • @darkhierophant4914
    @darkhierophant4914 2 роки тому +232

    I'm pleasantly surprised you covered this. I saw these back in 92' before an anime con in San Francisco. I was blown away. The anime genre wasn't really a thing in the US back then. I forgot about this. Thank you.

    • @JohnDoe-wq5eu
      @JohnDoe-wq5eu 2 роки тому +9

      Yeah it's weird to think how much things have changed since 92' for the better and for the worse in the industry. (and the fact it's so much more of an "industry" now)
      That decade would see so much change truly it would open people's eyes to the mass appeal of anime and bring in the mainstream like never before. I forgot just how significant these two snippets of animation were. And how much they would change everything within the world of anime. A lasting legacy that endures well into the current day.

    • @robertrazo1077
      @robertrazo1077 2 роки тому +7

      If you were into anime in the ‘90s you had to have someone in Japan make you VHS tapes and send them via snail mail. Subbers took Laserdisc recordings and superimposed the text. Anime was slow, so expensive and difficult to obtain. Also when we got US licensed anime the price for 1-4 episodes on a DVD was minimum of $20 to more than $80 for OVAs.

    • @jameshakola3603
      @jameshakola3603 2 роки тому +6

      That sounds like the first Anime Expo, July 1992 at the Red Lion San Jose... I was there!

    • @darkhierophant4914
      @darkhierophant4914 2 роки тому +3

      @@robertrazo1077 Yeah, i knew somebody that was sent tapes monthly with episodes of various shows. Mainly we were getting episodes of DBZ. I was in an anime fan club in Phx in 90 -92. We watched anime OVAs, shows & movies. We also subtitled anime before they were marketed. Of course everything was viewed through connections. Very few things were bought locally.

    • @CantankerousDave
      @CantankerousDave 2 роки тому +3

      Red Lion San Jose, I was there too. A group of us rented a van and drove in shifts nonstop from Chicago. Good memories, except for the container of chocolate milk that was left in the van the whole weekend, and that one of the group is no longer with us.

  • @mattr75
    @mattr75 2 роки тому +130

    The Daicon animations are still a technical marvel considering the circumstances of what the team had to go through

  • @EinDose
    @EinDose 2 роки тому +69

    Fun fact: Daicon III is debatably the first surviving AMV! The actual first was a now-lost video setting Star Blazers scenes to a Beatles soundtrack made in a form as old-fashioned as you expect from something that predates Daicon III. However, it's debatable if the Daicon films count due to being original animation.
    If the Daicon films don't count, then the first surviving AMV might be, of all things, the music video to Matthew Sweet's song "Girlfriend", made largely of clips from Space Adventure Cobra.

    • @LisaHoneychan
      @LisaHoneychan 2 роки тому +3

      I think you’re mistaking Urusei Yatsura on the video

    • @libertyking4160
      @libertyking4160 Рік тому +1

      I Found This Comment Incredibly Interesting!!!...THANKS!....I Watched Space Adventure Cobra Again Recently Too, So Now I'm Off To Goggle The Video!

    • @thebaron512
      @thebaron512 Рік тому +3

      A friend of mine Jim Kaposzas created a Star Blazer AMV in 1982.

    • @kristophergurley585
      @kristophergurley585 10 місяців тому +3

      "Girlfriend" came out in 1990 and featured Space Adventure Cobra, "I've Been Waiting" also from 1990 featured Urusei Yatsura. The Daicon vid were about ten years before either.

    • @EddieMillerStudios
      @EddieMillerStudios 7 місяців тому +1

      @@thebaron512 Yep. Sadly, Jim passed away in February.

  • @Dynaman21
    @Dynaman21 2 роки тому +145

    These shorts are iconic. Just the equivalent of a jam session on film.

  • @OskarGoldman
    @OskarGoldman 2 роки тому +14

    After being blown away by Robotech (Macross) in 1985 as a 13 year old, I went all in on Anime (back then we called it Japanimation). I remember my friend had Daicon IV on VHS and we watched it dozens of times. I was blown away by the amount of characters and the fast paced animation. This brings back so many memories of that time.

  • @battleupsaber462
    @battleupsaber462 2 роки тому +59

    I always loved the part from Daicon IV where she speedruns past every single Ultraman kaiju.

  • @noway9081
    @noway9081 2 роки тому +26

    My best friend and I were on the founding staff of the first Anime Boston back in 2003.
    I know it's cheesey, but your closing made me tear up thinking about how passionate and excited we all were getting that convention off the ground and keeping it running for those three crazy days.
    "Bliss it was in that dawn to be alive, but to be young (and an anime fan!) was very heaven!"

  • @Scudboy17
    @Scudboy17 2 роки тому +6

    My bootleg VHS copies of both of these movies are one of my prized possessions. Hell, I don;' even have a VCR to play it on, but I still keep the tape just for the memories. To this day just hearing the opening to "Twilight" gives me ASMR vibes.

  • @krystianhinz4575
    @krystianhinz4575 2 роки тому +12

    Daicon IV might honestly be my single most favorite piece of animation of all time, it's just a euphoric experience that brings fandoms together and reminds us why we love the things we love in the first place

  • @RabbiTucker
    @RabbiTucker 2 роки тому +81

    I first saw this about 24 years ago on a local public access program called "Anime Review." This was back in the days before access to Japanese animation was commonplace (or inexpensive). It sold me on the ELO album "Time", too.

    • @JohnDoe-wq5eu
      @JohnDoe-wq5eu 2 роки тому +5

      Yeah it's interesting that my first true experience with uncensored uncut anime was on a PBS channel back in the 90s that would show various anime at midnight on Sundays.
      That experience truly changed my entire mindset of what anime was and could be. It should also be said that it was entirely Japanese with subs as far as I can remember.
      Which pretty much permanently made me always lean toward subs over dubs whenever possible.

  • @jimwatson1013
    @jimwatson1013 2 роки тому +53

    Everything is great, the ending with Dan and the slow piano play of Twilight as he passionately sums up the effects of Daicon animation is so sweet and amazing.

    • @ScaryMason
      @ScaryMason 10 місяців тому

      Twilight should have been the song for Ready Player One’s trailer. The lyrics describe the movie.

  • @wintermagebarthow8481
    @wintermagebarthow8481 2 роки тому +11

    I miss going to Cons in the late 80s and 90s, Ahhhhh the good old days of Anime in VHS, and trying to order Live action from Japan on Lazerdisc

  • @gustavohernandeza.890
    @gustavohernandeza.890 2 роки тому +42

    Never expected you would talk about the Daicon shorts. Great stuff!

  • @justinrgray4979
    @justinrgray4979 2 роки тому +13

    Insane. Wings of Honneamise is a masterful anime that honestly needs a theatrical rerelease.

  • @wintermagebarthow8481
    @wintermagebarthow8481 2 роки тому +4

    Thanks, for the IMMIEATS commercial tie in, nothing goes better with old school anime than Ramen

  • @phr0g
    @phr0g 2 роки тому +20

    That last segment hit hard, it must have been such a treat to see the Daicon animations in person back then.

    • @Dr.Quarex
      @Dr.Quarex 2 роки тому +2

      It really makes me think about how even in the 1990s it was such a big deal when you encountered something put together professionally that spoke to a niche pop culture thing you truly cared about. Even finding a t-shirt or attending a panel related to a game you loved or something was amazing because it expanded your worldview, as opposed to nowadays when literally anything you are into has a thousand pieces of related merchandise you can purchase. Not that this is inherently bad, just less magical

    • @adrianabustamante2860
      @adrianabustamante2860 Рік тому

      ​@@Dr.Quarexgran reflexión ❤

    • @andrejg4136
      @andrejg4136 5 місяців тому

      @@Dr.Quarex the rush to commidify and mass produce everything has made us disjoined from the humanity it takes to create those things initially. At the same time, the democratization that allows everyone to participate in these things, no matter how small, has shown us how broad and deep the potential is.

  • @bunkerzero
    @bunkerzero 2 роки тому +4

    Gainax would always reference themselves (same with trigger) kinda like an inside joke!

  • @BurnRoddy
    @BurnRoddy 2 роки тому +94

    🤩 I can't believe you guys did this. I always wanted some sort od tribute to Daicon IV on Toy Galaxy but woldn't know how it would fit. Thank you so much! You guys are awsome! 💪

  • @Jayk129
    @Jayk129 2 роки тому +13

    I saw this in 1989 at our local sci-if convention Omacon. It’s why I fell in love with ELO. The whole album Twilight is on “Time” is one of my all time favorite albums, great start to finish. And nice job skirting the copyright strike with the slow tempo piano solo version of twilight during the conclusion.

  • @juan.toys.n.bricks
    @juan.toys.n.bricks 2 роки тому +25

    It's amazing how you guys put everything in place like you were a Daicon (Gainax) Fans since the 80's.
    In the mid 90s, a friend gave me a copy of a CD called Anitime. in it there was a lot of opening and endings of 80s and 90s Animes in Quictime format and also the Daicon 3 and 4 animations ... I loved.
    Later I bought the Otaku no Video VHS... It was awesome. Then in the 2000s the DVD.
    The make of Daicon 3 & 4 Videos and Gainax are one of the greatest stories in the Japanese Animation.

  • @Zillamon51
    @Zillamon51 2 роки тому +16

    These are a perfect encapsulation of the joy that pop culture can bring. I had never seen nor heard of them before this episode. Thank you!

  • @Argumedies
    @Argumedies 2 роки тому +2

    I grew up near Grand Rapids Michigan and i remember that commercial as a kid. They still hold these Con's there every year.

  • @thosearemypants1
    @thosearemypants1 2 роки тому +18

    Time is one of me and my mom's favorite ELO albums, funny enough though I never saw Daicon IV until I was much older and immediately had to show it to my mother. Evangelion is one of her favorite animes, and Time was such an important album to her she almost named the book she's worked on all her life Twilight after said song. Daicon IV will always hold a special place in my heart and I'm so glad to see more people introduced to it

  • @RyanDeClue
    @RyanDeClue 2 роки тому +29

    I cannot properly express how much I look forward to your videos. Every moment of these videos, regardless of what particular nostalgia nugget is being showcased, is perfect. The host, the backgrounds, the translations, the effects (when present), the information, the videography, the editing, the lighting… everything is utterly peerless.

    • @RyanDeClue
      @RyanDeClue 2 роки тому

      Transitions, not translations.

  • @mekman4
    @mekman4 2 роки тому +12

    I haven’t heard of Daicon _in a very long time._ I’m old enough to have visited comic conventions when they were held in churches in Midtown Manhattan though, and even further back when New York Comic Con was very large, just before it wasn’t and before it was again. Good times!
    Great Stuff, as always!

  • @seanswader7425
    @seanswader7425 2 роки тому +3

    I’m currently building the wave model kit of that power armor from Starship Troopers that they show in Daicon 3 fighting that little girl.

  • @cephalopad
    @cephalopad 2 роки тому +11

    Thank you for doing this. I especially appreciate the ending monologue where you immerse us in zeitgeist of the time when these highly influential works debuted.

  • @desflat
    @desflat 2 роки тому +4

    In college I loved watching Densha Otoko, which a friend had torrented. I had to know about the anime in it, used for the opening. And that was my intro to Daicon, and ELO.

  • @micden00
    @micden00 22 дні тому +1

    put it in simple words
    everyone participated in the making of Daicon opening are legends, and their legends all start with that single 5min video

  • @vitacilina555
    @vitacilina555 Рік тому +1

    I'm not ashamed to admit I shed a few tears when I watched the Daicon 4 remastered/upscaled version a couple years back. The nostalgia feels were just too much.

  • @MarkyMarc413
    @MarkyMarc413 2 роки тому +11

    WOW! Thank you for bringing the Daicon animation shorts to your audience's attention! I learned about them several years ago and find them, especially Daicon IV, to be one of those very special things that any fan of anime, animation, sci-fi and fantasy, should experience at least once! It's a shame something like that on a modern scale probably couldn't be done LEGALLY these days, but maybe a fan animator will step-up and bring us something similar, a new celebration of the past 40 years of nerdy pop-culture!
    For those who want a more in-depth look at the Daicon IV animation itself, as well as its characters featured, check out the video by Mother's Basement.

  • @fireaza
    @fireaza Рік тому +2

    It's pretty wild to consider that the Daikon guys needed to scrape together all these physical materials and equipment to make their short opening animation, while today, someone could make something that looks a lot better, on their own, using only a mid-range laptop.

  • @maitland72
    @maitland72 2 роки тому +8

    OMG! Thank you for doing such a deep dive on an iconic, yet obscure piece of anime history! I never knew that they actual used Twilight as the soundtrack. I always assumed some one added that later on the YT versions.

  • @marcbaker3947
    @marcbaker3947 2 роки тому +5

    A friend introduced me to these years ago. I still watch them time to time just to be inspired

  • @Scott.Sandifer
    @Scott.Sandifer 2 роки тому +5

    I was a devout anime fan throughout the 80s and early 90s. Still, I had never heard or seen any of this.
    What an amazing, interconnected story. Thank you, Toy Galaxy.

  • @MentalLiberation
    @MentalLiberation 2 роки тому +6

    9:41 wow. Mind blown. I never knew they got started this way

  • @WooMaster777
    @WooMaster777 2 роки тому +4

    Daicon is concentrated love and adoration. It still brings tears to my eyes every time I see it.

  • @M1kaelJohansson
    @M1kaelJohansson 2 роки тому +2

    one of my favorite channel's talking about one of my favorite pieces of film. Wow, thank you so much

  • @lucaspam
    @lucaspam 2 роки тому +9

    This was unexpected, but great! Please keep up the excellent job guys! Thank you!!

  • @nicoleseraphita7613
    @nicoleseraphita7613 2 роки тому +47

    The fate of Gainax in the modern era is sad. They just kinda petered out after Panty and Stocking and the remaining people split into Studio Trigger and Studio Khara.

    • @JoelBurger
      @JoelBurger 2 роки тому +13

      That's just the nature of the industry, the same drain has happened with other studios like Shaft. Which is why it's important to emphasize and pay attention to the individual creators involved, and not on a brand they happen to be working under (especially in an industry where so many are freelance). Because we're still seeing great work from the people who made Gainax great back in the day.
      Now what's really sad is how Gainax has actively interfered with said creatives. Like when Anno was promised the rights to FLCL and Gunbuster by Takeda in exchange for a 100 million yen loan, only for Takeda to shunt the rights off to one of Gainax's many shell companies and sell the rights to others (like Production I.G for FLCL).

    • @imahoare4742
      @imahoare4742 2 роки тому +9

      Gainax was on the decline as early as the production of Neon Genesis Evangelion, with their infamous scandals regarding underpaying animators, bad investments and the chairman of Gainax allegedly trying to pursue sexual favors from an underage VA, Hideaki Anno denounced Gainax in the late 2010s and now Studio Trigger and Studio Khara have basically absorbed the talent and legacy that made Gainax legendary without the baggage. Though I personally think Anno just wants to make Tokusatsu now.

    • @JohnDoe-wq5eu
      @JohnDoe-wq5eu 2 роки тому +4

      I wondered about exactly what happened with Gainax especially that panty and stocking was their last official product. I also wondered why FLCL went forward even though the company was no more. (The fact production I.G. took over makes a lot of sense especially when you explain the context) I'm glad that there should be new panty and stocking coming cuz that was always sad to me is it the series just kind of petered off a decade ago.
      But yes the legacy of Gainax besides the controversies are the people who work there and that's as it should be. What's in a name the people who work there are much more important than the name the company goes by.

    • @otakubullfrog1665
      @otakubullfrog1665 2 роки тому +2

      @@JohnDoe-wq5eu Gainax actually made a few more shows over the next several years after that (ending with the Houkago no Pleiades TV series in 2015 as far as I can tell, which is an odd note to go out on), although most of their best talent had been syphoned away into Trigger, Khara, etc. by then.

    • @JohnDoe-wq5eu
      @JohnDoe-wq5eu 2 роки тому +3

      @@otakubullfrog1665
      I mean that's just it they went out with such a whimper not at all with a bang. (Which is probably why most people think/assume they went out with panty and stocking as that was their last big project I would say) As you said they lost all their important talent at that point so it was just a skeleton crew and I have a feeling the most relevant stuff was probably in Japan anyway so to an outsider looking in even an okatu it's just not as relevant unless you're living in the country and directly part of the culture. I have a feeling Gainax demise hit way harder in Japan has anyone who followed that and the culture knew it's relevance.

  • @BensBrickDesigns
    @BensBrickDesigns 2 роки тому +3

    Wings is Honneamise is one of my favs. Sort of my intro to anime after Robotech/Macross is a US kid. This, Ninja Scroll, Patlabor. Good times.

  • @Gappasaurus
    @Gappasaurus 2 роки тому +5

    MUCH RESPECT for stepping out of the norm and covering these, Dan & Greg ✊😎 For us old-school fans of sci-fi & “japanimation” (as well as ELO 😅) these shorts were absolutely legendary. I first saw them playing at an import shop in Philly that i used to buy fansub anime VHS tapes at in the ‘90s (long since closed, can’t even remember the name of it) and was absolutely blown away. Thanks for bringing back some good memories yet again 🥹

  • @pennygadget7328
    @pennygadget7328 2 роки тому +8

    Daicon IV was how my GF was introduced to ELO and I couldn't be happier :)

  • @jameshakola3603
    @jameshakola3603 2 роки тому +9

    Wow, great episode Dan! Daicon is a thing that I think more anime fans and just geeks in general should know about. If you'd never heard the ELO song Twilight, definitely check out the entire album, called Time. It's a concept album, heavily laced with sci-fi themes. In other words, the geekiest and therefore (possibly) best of all Jeff Lynne's albums!

  • @greenlanternhg5141
    @greenlanternhg5141 2 роки тому +4

    Oh yes 😲...never of this and looking for the shorts now
    Great video Mr Larson, Producer Greg MP 👍🏽✌🏽

  • @cobaltplasma
    @cobaltplasma 2 роки тому +17

    Holy smokes this... this episodes resonated with me so much lol... Gainax was so influential on me growing up but I had no idea about its origins, I just assumed it was just another anime studio slapped together in the 80s, but nothing like this. What a crazy story, indeed! Thank you for making this episode :)

    • @JohnDoe-wq5eu
      @JohnDoe-wq5eu 2 роки тому +2

      The only thing that's truly sad is how gainax petered out essentially disbanded going their separate ways and starting their own companies.
      It was probably the best for everyone involved but it's still sad that it had to come to that.

  • @MakoSucks
    @MakoSucks Рік тому +2

    Just making their own vinyl animation cells is a feat in itself, let alone that they weren't an animation studio yet. THEN they had to start animating cell by cell frame by frame, with hundreds of different pop culture characters, layered on top of each other. And I'm here struggling with all that labor streamlined into a computer and a tablet.

    • @E4439Qv5
      @E4439Qv5 10 днів тому

      These Japanese guys were Built Different.

  • @roryotoole3279
    @roryotoole3279 2 роки тому +1

    Just discovered these shorts a couple of months ago thought they were fantastic. I'm not even a big anime fan but I absolutely love this. I love the time period it comes from I like the early days of fandom in the late 70's and early 80s. Also a big E.L.O. fan to boot .

  • @denyaladin3078
    @denyaladin3078 2 роки тому +5

    Thanks for bringing this back to our conciousness, just like your other works, especially every time about Tokusatsu, as a long time fan, I really appreciate it. Thank you guys! ☺️

  • @Mekasoundwave
    @Mekasoundwave 2 роки тому +2

    Another great video. Daicon IV might be one of my favorite pieces of animation ever produced. I saw it for the first time maybe a decade ago on a random website with next to no explanation or context and it was nothing short of mindblowing. Just pure creativity and love for science fiction, anime and all that good stuff in all the way only an otaku can express, completely unrestrained by the notions of "copyright" or "ownership". The fact that it's also the origin story of one of the all time greatest anime studios (a studio that went on to make some of my OTHER favorite pieces of animation no less)! is nothing short of poetic. And yes, "Time" by ELO is an incredible album. Look up the "Children of Daicon" AMV if you ever get the chance.

  • @moonprincesst.s.h.4ever115
    @moonprincesst.s.h.4ever115 2 роки тому +14

    So, the little girl went from a spaceship crew member to a martial arts Playboy Bunny? 🤔
    Can we hear that story? Because I think that it will be shockingly AMAZING! 😱

    • @krono5el
      @krono5el 2 роки тому +6

      basically Project A-Ko : P

    • @jameshakola3603
      @jameshakola3603 2 роки тому

      And I'm pretty sure she was supposed to be the captain... Not sure if that makes it less strange, or more

  • @ClockworkBard
    @ClockworkBard 2 роки тому

    My hats off to you as a creator, Dan. This video contained so many recognizable names and creations that could've been name dropped in the title or thumbnail as click bait. But you let us click on this niche fandom thing instead. You left viewers curious as those of us not in the know wondered what this bunny girl and radish name had to do about anything. We got to experience the story and reveal genuinely. You may have sacrificed clicks, but you preserved the art and purity of the presentation. For that I thank you.
    And sure, you did put spoilers in the description, but we know nobody reads those.

  • @hentaimonster
    @hentaimonster Рік тому

    Your end statement is why I fell in love with anime in the 90s. Otaku no Video and the Daicon movies were a massive influence on my love for the genre. The story of gainax is filled with so many highs and lows over the years, but they changed not just the anime industry but American Hollywood itself with its influence on film makers. This in turn has influenced the world and pop culture across the globe.

  • @tipulsar85
    @tipulsar85 2 роки тому +4

    I not only knew of the shorts, but actively searched for them online. I first encountered the name Daicon a few months after my first Norwescon nearly 20 years ago. I was absorbing Japanese culture the only way I could legally afford, by watching the Saturday late night on Adult Swim.

    • @JohnDoe-wq5eu
      @JohnDoe-wq5eu 2 роки тому

      Sometime in the mid to late 90s before anime became at all mainstream and incredibly expensive a local PBS channel would show uncut episodes on Sunday nights around midnight subbed of course. That really opened my eyes as completely as they could. As a teenager of 14-15 when I first found it I was immediately all about it. Never lost that sense of wonder of finding that long after they stopped playing it.
      A true defining moment of my life.

  • @RyanAlcantara
    @RyanAlcantara 2 роки тому +2

    Wow. I'm not the only one who knows all the songs on the Xanadu soundtrack. I'm not alone! Trust me, I didn't have a choice. My aunt really liked the movie and she'd have it on a lot when she babysat me.

  • @GSidoti
    @GSidoti 2 роки тому +2

    Daicon!! Didn't think I'd see this here. Glad I was wrong. Fascinating subject and episode!

  • @Meineself
    @Meineself 4 місяці тому

    The refference to the Pairans while the song says "am i in a dream?"
    Man these dudes are something else

  • @tompuce84
    @tompuce84 2 роки тому +2

    Man I remember downloading those 15 ago and being so moved. The passion is so palpable it really made me feel something special. Soo cool

  • @ShinGallon
    @ShinGallon 2 роки тому

    The Daicon IV video is one of my favorite things ever, I'm glad you're covering this.

  • @aucarter
    @aucarter 2 роки тому +3

    Wow. I recall seeing parts of these videos but never knew where they came from or how they were made. Thank you!

  • @dbransom
    @dbransom 2 роки тому

    Dan, the sum-up at the end was amazing! It's so nice that these two video's get the love and recognition they deserve. They really did kick start the birth of modern anime and so many brilliant staff with genre defining shows came out of these 'little fan films'. I'm 48 yrs now and it was so different back in the 80's and 90's getting anime in the west, how times have changed. This video made me so happy, thank you :)

  • @atariboy9084
    @atariboy9084 2 роки тому +2

    And this ladies and gentlemen of the jury is why the 1980s was fucking awesome.

    • @atariboy9084
      @atariboy9084 Рік тому

      The very first time I saw both Daicon III & Daicon IV Opening was in 1985 on a VHS tape at a NYC comic books store called Forbidden Planet.

  • @donaldwright8567
    @donaldwright8567 9 місяців тому +1

    Now the anime girl cameo in the Transformers fan film "Arcee: Dreams of Daicon" makes total since.

  • @hyperdrivepics
    @hyperdrivepics 2 роки тому

    Had no idea Hideaki Anno worked on these, so cool seeing his animation roots.

  • @kyoto5
    @kyoto5 2 роки тому +2

    Good Job!! Man, you guys did your research on Daicon and the resulting anime that was spawned by it.

  • @shaundis2117
    @shaundis2117 2 роки тому +1

    This vid made my night . I never heard of Daicon or the ELO Album "Time". Thanks for uploading this . What a great rabbit hole to go down with a kick ass sound track.

  • @evandavid2816
    @evandavid2816 2 роки тому +3

    It's either real or it's a dream, there's nothing that is in-between....

  • @timeimp
    @timeimp 11 місяців тому

    Amazing work Dan! This was randomly suggested to me today and the video quality was *chef's kiss*

  • @SSobotkaJr
    @SSobotkaJr 2 роки тому

    My first ever fan convention was NecronomiCon in Tampa, FL; where they had one small room assigned for watching anime. To kick off the weekend of Sailor Moon, Dragonball, and other yet-unseen series to us Western fans, the room organizer showed off the Daicon IV opening animation. It became something of a tradition going forward, until the guy actually got enough support and capital to launch his own anime-themed convention -- MetroCon -- in Tampa decades later.

  • @Atlas3060
    @Atlas3060 2 роки тому

    That ending segment was perfect. Nowadays it's just a given we'll have pop culture floating around and a bajillion lawyers and studios making sure their baby IP has equal time alongside their competitors.
    Back then though, people like those animators were just goofing around, crafting ancient magics of animation because they were big nerds.
    In the present time, we still get some of those moments of love, only to be struck down by some copywrite here and there, which is sad.
    Those two shorts truly were treasures of a long bygone age.

  • @vigo2669
    @vigo2669 2 роки тому +1

    I first saw Daicon III and IV on UA-cam less than a year ago. Gotta love that 80's anime aesthetic.

  • @RedZeshinX
    @RedZeshinX 10 місяців тому

    Definitely a touchstone moment in anime, a clarion call heralding a new age that changed the course of animation and pop culture history forever.

  • @petirgarda1005
    @petirgarda1005 2 роки тому

    Thank you, thank you for this. I was in love with Daicon IV the first time i saw it. Knowing at least there was some appreciation to the Daicon videos really surprised me, i know a lot of people knew about Daicon 3 and 4, but to make a whole video about it is something else. You guys rock!

  • @geardog24
    @geardog24 2 роки тому +46

    Daicon
    Back when sci-fi and anime were allowed to be creative and fun.

    • @peterclarke7240
      @peterclarke7240 2 роки тому +4

      Back when grown men used to watch young children grow into bunny girls.
      Um... 🤔

    • @NotThatGuy_YepThatGuy
      @NotThatGuy_YepThatGuy 2 роки тому +2

      @@peterclarke7240 I feel you on this, but I have to believe that the trope at the core of this, for all the sickening stuff it evolved into, started with an attempt to call back to the innocence of youth, the shyness of liking girls the naivete about them, in 3 then a sense of growing up a bit in 4.
      Don't get me wrong, the sexualization of women, teenagers, girls and young girls is disgusting any and everywhere it exists, and carries a particular flavor of creepy in Japan, but I don't feel that stuff like this spe I finally, from this time specifically, so easily falls into what we understand and comment on nowadays.
      Like Dan said, ya gotta cast your imagination back. I first saw gunbuster on a bootleg VHS in, I want to say, 1997. It blew my mind. While I did think a school where girls pretty much ran around in bikini briefs all the time was weird, pubescent me did not get any secual vibes from it at all. Same for sailor moon my first ever Anime.
      But hey, that's just me.
      Edit: the playboy thing, while not veering entirely out of my line of thought, is pretty weird in a bunch of ways.

    • @JohnDoe-wq5eu
      @JohnDoe-wq5eu 2 роки тому +3

      @@NotThatGuy_YepThatGuy
      Yeah but keep in mind that whole Playboy bunny girl trope was in pretty much every anime of the '80s you saw it in like Dragon Ball even the most mainstream and non-controversial anime of the time had it. Of course it evolved into the thing we have now because it was going to without any pushback (of which there was none or not nearly enough)

    • @peterclarke7240
      @peterclarke7240 2 роки тому

      @@NotThatGuy_YepThatGuy It's when you realise that these shows are made invariably by grown men who clearly don't have a problem with sexualising children for an audience of children that things take a decidedly icky turn.
      I'm not normally particularly prudish, and I recognise that time and cultural differences play a big part here, but I do kind of take an issue with the idea that the OP seemed to be expressing that somehow things were "better" in the mythical "good old days," because my first question when hearing that line of thinking is always "better for whom?"

  • @jimmydragonstudios
    @jimmydragonstudios 2 роки тому

    So happy you covered these! I was a huge fan and remember watching Otaku No Video back in those days. Man the memories. 🤣

  • @TOKYOTOYBANZAI
    @TOKYOTOYBANZAI 2 роки тому +1

    Great deep cut here. Nice work Dan!

  • @galbaum33
    @galbaum33 2 роки тому +1

    The first three tracks of ELO's Time album come together. You should listen to Prologue, Twilight and Yours Truly 2095 continuously without stopping. One of the best openings to an album.

  • @SeiferA2001
    @SeiferA2001 2 роки тому +11

    I never thought this channel would review the very thing that not only exposed me to anime, but also to the sheer notion of crazy af crossovers

  • @blueskiesj
    @blueskiesj 2 роки тому +2

    I probably speak for all tokusatsu fans when I say we are *very* hype to see what Anno has up his sleeve next. Shin Godzilla was incredible, Shin Ultraman's receiving a lot of acclaim in Japan (stateside release coming...eventually), and we're all understandably stoked to see what Shin Kamen Rider will be like.
    ........I'm also wondering if Shin Super Sentai will ever be a thing since that's the natural place to go next but we'll see I guess

  • @miguelarcachero6103
    @miguelarcachero6103 2 роки тому

    The Crossover that started it all.
    This was later in Captain N: The Gamemaster, Super Robot Wars, The Lego Movie, and many more.

  • @crisedbauer2199
    @crisedbauer2199 2 роки тому

    back in about 86 a couple friends and I managed to break their VCR by pausing both III and IV advancing frame by frame attempting to catalog every reference we could.
    30+ years later I suspect we'd have better luck id'ing more references

  • @Bionickpunk
    @Bionickpunk 7 місяців тому

    Diacon IV animation is the perfectly distilled love letter to animation and entertainment media, along to the communities that support them.

  • @robertrazo1077
    @robertrazo1077 2 роки тому

    Very pleasantly surprised to see Toy Galaxy cover this. After watching and becoming obsessed with Evangelion in the late ‘90s, (anime fan/psychology major) I got into Anno’s other work including his live action movies and Daicon animations. I own a copy of Otaku no Video and watched Densha Otoko as it was coming out back in the day. Early Gainax animation exudes love of animation media and other popular culture, much like your channel. Keep up the great work!

  • @jamesburns6603
    @jamesburns6603 2 роки тому

    WOOO! this video been floating around for a long long time. I remember watching it during the VHS tape trading days back in the 90's. You can see the start of 'Otaku no video' in this animation.

  • @SergeCruso
    @SergeCruso 2 роки тому

    I remember watching this via some... Sketchy souce and just being blown away, I loved how you explained the excitement this carried in a time before things instantly in your hands, you had to scower find find any souce of animation in America. I had no idea the Kanji had so many play on "words" wrapped in it!

  • @Gunsight-One
    @Gunsight-One 2 роки тому

    Talk about being surprised to see a video covering these two hidden gems. My Father was involved with a bootleg anime trading group in the 80's and one of the VHS tapes we collected had Diacon III and IV on it. I always loved the ELO soundtrack paired with the amazing visuals of this incredible short. Thanks for bringing more awareness to this amazing piece of anime history.

  • @wkenealey
    @wkenealey 9 місяців тому

    Oh man... I saw Daicon IV some time back in the late 90s. A friend had it on a bootleg VHS tape, and I never really knew much about it. I had no idea that this was the origin of Gainax!

  • @Markkzilla
    @Markkzilla 2 роки тому

    This is a pleasant surprise, I love the Daicon shorts and I feel they need to be known more.

  • @ringokageyama6439
    @ringokageyama6439 2 роки тому

    Can't belive you covered The Daicon Opening Animation. I pop in my copy from time to time. With all the Daicon References from Train Man & FLCL, you missed Cassette Girl

  • @Penstrike
    @Penstrike 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you for the Twilight needle drop at the end. Gainax has been a testment to budgetting your productions since Gunbuster ran out of money for paint for the last 2 episodes, and had to be released in Black and White. While Evangelion the final episode is done as almost an animatic using markers because they ran out of money in the final 4 episodes.

  • @oneupdawg
    @oneupdawg 2 роки тому +6

    Gainax at their prime! Incredible animation only they could do at the time. Studio Trigger has taken up the helm now

    • @JohnDoe-wq5eu
      @JohnDoe-wq5eu 2 роки тому

      Like Larson said they truly are gainax without all the baggage. And right from the get-go they've proven they are heir apparent no doubt about it.

    • @antemode
      @antemode 2 роки тому

      Gainax what a sad story, but they did give us some of the greatest anime of all time, love otaku no video

  • @davidkatz6197
    @davidkatz6197 Рік тому

    I love that I can watch this video and then do a quick search for Daicon and watch these "lost" treasures.

  • @giancarlovelandrez3413
    @giancarlovelandrez3413 2 роки тому +1

    ELO's Twilight works well with densha otoko. especially on the high points of the series. geez, I'm having goosebumps everytime I hear twilight's intro. ELO's twilight, is like ode to joy suddenly playing on the background everytime you feel successful. 🤭🤭🤭

  • @smittycal
    @smittycal 2 роки тому +1

    I’ve never seen the first one, but the second one!! Classic for real. Plus that ELO song Twilight just made it amazing.
    Thanks for covering this!

  • @photomatt11
    @photomatt11 2 роки тому +1

    I loved this. Well done. I remember seeing an anime music video at Otakon ‘98 done to “Dare to be Stupid” that used clips from these.

  • @jhmcd2
    @jhmcd2 2 роки тому

    Ironically, the video is actually somewhere on UA-cam. I saw it for the first time a few months back. I was surprised when I heard about this studio and they are a real inspiration for the indie artist out there.

  • @omarvallejo8585
    @omarvallejo8585 8 місяців тому

    Gosh I love everything you do! I hope I get to meet you one day :D fantastic history lesson, amazingly presented, thank you so much!

  • @popcultureotaku3761
    @popcultureotaku3761 2 роки тому

    I'm so happy you covered these! I've been a big fan of Gainax since I first saw Eva in high school. It really takes me back to the days of watching fansubs in my friend's basement.

  • @The_Infinite_Squirrel
    @The_Infinite_Squirrel 2 роки тому +1

    "Can we turn the lights down for this?"