Daicon IV - 1983 Audience Reaction
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- Опубліковано 27 сер 2024
- An extremely rare recording of the Nihon SF Taikai audience reaction to the 1983 OAV Daicon IV - one thing noticeable about this version is how some on the animation is different, likely unfinished due to initial time contraints for the festival.
The Twitter thread where I obtained the video: masahitoSPV/status/1464251423336501254
This video has been uploaded for entertainment purposes only: no copyright infringement is intended.
This is a time capsul of probably one of the most important camrips in animation history
More important than the theater reaction in the 80’s of vader admitting to being Luke’s father
My favourite part is a lot of the really excited crowd reactions aren’t at the references, they’re just looking at the really impressive animation. As they should.
I noticed that, too. Appreciative of the artistry that went into it.
as the team behind it was probably already known by fans for the animation for DAICON III 2 years prior, those in the know must've been waiting for this one, and celebrating the fact that their expectations not only were met, but even surpassed
Yeah, that's my favourite bit too.
For real, just as many people are shouting for that shot of the spaceship spinning or the now iconic gainax explosions as they are the playboy bunny girl saber dueling Darth Vaders XD
I straight up downloaded this in case youtube ever deletes it for whatever reason, this is one thing that simply cannot be allowed to become lost media
me tooo
Seriously. This should be archived in Japan in a legacy animation history museum
Ironically, this is the *only* Daicon IV reaction video in the entire UA-cam where you can actually hear someone overwhelmingly amazed, at the moment
I've figured out: There are some scenes that doesn't appear on some Daicon IV restorations, images like creepy monsters and stuff, maybe censorship (?
@@elbarry7016 As far as I know, the Daicon IV opening film making was "completed" *40 frickin' minutes* before its showing. So, maybe Anno and the others had to compromise at some point, then later released the upgraded version for LD software. You know, like Evangelion. This is just a speculation though...
Está reacción será real!?..
there's something really magical about hearing the audience as they realize more and more that what they are watching will become a revolutionary part of anime history
quite possibly the most magical video on this entire site
❤
Very much agreed
Every time the crowd goes "Woah!" at the beautiful animation, it's really something so special it makes me tear up.
I mean, I had the same reaction when I watched this in 2010-something. I could not believe this was made by basically amateurs in 1983. The cherry blossom explosions and the spread of greenery is some of the most visually stunning animations the world has ever seen. I have watched those images for so many times that they are printed in my mind like some kinda go to mental meditation, yet watching it again still gives me the geniun chills as I honestly enjoy watching it as much as the first time. It is a rare talent to keep that feeling in the audience.
God I can't stop crying from watching this, to be able to experience live would be one of the greatest sights and I'm glad to be able to see what the crowd would have seen and it does not disappoint we must preserve great moments like this for nerd culture
There are two moments in history I would have loved to have been part of where I wouldn't have affected this timeline. The other would be one of the people in the background when the Beatles made 'Hey Jude'.
I thought this comment was a bit much...but dammit, my eyes leaked a little too.
I had huge smile and tears running down my face for this whole video. You always hear that Japanese audiences are so quiet. Not here.
1983年・・高校1年生だったな。
これを現地で見た人がうらやましい。 歓声があがるたびに目頭が熱くなった。
ここにいる人たちは自分と同年代か少し上の人たちか・・・今は何をしているんだろう。
それな！こんなん見たらちびりそうやわ。
I've always want to say this half-year ago, thank you. My dream to see how the actual play in the convention now can be seen. Thank you for whom record this, for whom uploaded this to the internet. It's should be worldwide history of animation and comic culture, thanks again.
There were so many differences from the final product.
* The entire projection (and the audio) is playing a bit slow, even though the film itself is definitely 24fps, so I assume they had technical issues with the showing.
* During the retread of Daicon III, we hear _Noah's Ark_ towards its _end_ rather than its very beginning.
* The followup track plays some 5 seconds later than in the final version.
* There are moments during the heavy montages when they cut in with moving still frames of monsters or something, presumably because those sequences were incomplete. Upon closer inspection, they're not just incomplete-what does exist is actually animated differently from the final product, with assets flying here and there in a different order altogether.
* All of the best money shots-the sequences which deserve to be labeled the best animation ever put to cel by 1983-are fully intact, indicating that they received a high priority.
* The "all stars" flyover towards the end is somewhat shorter.
* The computer-generated planets sequence is, conspicuously, in a very beta state and the sunrise which precedes it has not yet been animated, leaving a probably confusing moment of nothing happening.
All this tells me they were probably cracking the whip clear until the day it was time to show the thing off. I could probably work up a remaster of this beta version of the soundtrack.
It's astonishing they were able to even get this out on time and from what I hear working nights in a rented out office building with the AC turned off.
As an archivist.. this is literal gold. I mean, I may or may not have everything to do with Pony Metal U-Gaim but this is one of those recordings that is so special. Literal lightning in a bottle. I'm ripping this and keeping it forever because this kinda stuff deserves to live on.
ここから全てが始まったんだな
Jeff Lynne is the singer of ELO, the band who performed Prologue/Twilight. I don't think he's ever stated/been interviewed about Daicon IV. However, Twilight was used w/ similar moments (swords, rails, etc) for a Japanese drama in 2005, so I'm guessing Jeff quietly acknowledges this.
I teared up watching this. Imagine if it were the other way round and this was the only way we ever saw Daicon IV
For real. Thank God Daicon IV didn't somehow become lost media. Imagine if all we had was this video or a written description of what the animation was showing.
I am 44 and i know the same feeling!!!
Yeah, it's a feeling. Would have been like experiencing the best thing possible at the time.
Thank you, so much for uploading this. I cried watching this. This is like someone filming the Big Bang. This is the pure vindication of aspiring artists and the origin of some of the best media ever made.
To those of you reading this, PLEASE DOWNLOAD THIS VIDEO. Something like this absolutely NEEDS to survive
I’ll put a copy on the Internet Archive too
It's interesting how this version plays at about .9 the speed of the laserdisc version on youtube. You can actually get a better look at some of the faster moving scenes, like the macross bot getting shot by the missiles, the shot of her lifting the giant robot, and the sweeping shot of all the characters standing in a line up.
That giant robot was Voltron
Everyone here has an obligation to download and preserve this video so that it lives on for generations
We ought to be beaming this out into space. What better way to mystify some alien culture with a message of "We were here! We told each other amazing stories! We were here, and it mattered!"
...okay yeah I still haven't managed to watch this without crying, however could you tell -
@@leewilder2896I feel you. Every time I watch this, whether it be a remaster or this particular piece of history, the music and animation causes my heart to swell 🥲
It’s amazing to see people’s reactions to what would become literally one of the most important moments in not just anime history but the history of animation in general. One of the most incredible videos on this site no doubt
女の子が登場する場面ではなく、アニメでの複雑な動きが表現されているところで歓声が上がるところが玄人っぽさが半端なくて草w
RIP Gainax
Gainax is dead. Long live Gainax (Studio Khara)
HOLY SHIT I NEVER THOUGHT ID SEE THIS
I actually cried watching this video
anyone with a burning spirit would!
Thought in my head as I have tears rolling down my cheeks: *sniff sniff* "You magnificent nerds"
The unfinished bits might explain why both songs were sped up on the LD. Still didn't know that the LD version was different to what was shown in 1983... I learn something new everyday.
Is that why the song is at a lower pitch? Was that always the original pitch?
Amazing that this footage even exists!
This gives me chills every time...AND IT WAS ALMOST LOST FOREVER.
I feel amazed every time i watch the DAICON 3&4 animations to this day. I can't imagine how stunned i would have been seeing them like this in 1983. I would have to be carried out crying 😂
Absolutely love the way the crowd starts going absolutely insane in the final stretch
Still hits just as hard. Just found out about this. Pure magic.
I really didn't think I was gonna cry from watching this but I definitely did! Thank you for uploading!
Same.
I honestly almost cried when I watched this for the first time, and I'm not much of an emotional person. I thought that this would never materialize, and that we could only imagine how these people reacted to one of the greatest pieces of animation ever created. This is quite possibly one of the greatest video discoveries of our time, showing everyone in that building being witnesses to the literal turning point of animation history.
This is a fundamental moment in anime' history. I feel humbled and grateful to have seen it secondhand! This influenced virtually all anime' made in the past 35 years.
One of the most important moments in anime, and by extension, current animation and film history
Tbh, this is the spirit of GAINAX in its purest form. All their best work comes from this wellspring of passion.
Literally, I've imagined something like this when discovered Daicon IV: "I wonder how they reacted when this was played for the first time? I do feel amazing, but I can't figure out how they felt watching this live" So glad that someone recorded!!!
Fun fact: There are some images (starting from 4:16) that doesn't appear on actual Daicon IV restorations, some creepy monsters and other characters just after DC and Marvel scene. Maybe there are two versions, and the original uncut film played here, is lost(?
they kinda finished the morning the convention started, most likely they had those images as placeholders and only were able to finish it entirely after the fact, for the limited LD release
Wow you really pulled this up from the bottom of the deep blue sea
I miss going to anime conventions and getting hyped for whatever was being shown.
When I say I'm a fan of fandom itself, it's things like this that I'm talking about. Yes. Yes we are all spending time we won't get back in a fanatic domain. The passion that made this film happen - both the animation and this recording from in the room - that's something beautiful.
Oh my goodness. This video is like GOLD DUST. I love the Daicon IV animation so much, but it's amazing to see how people reacted to it right there, live. Thank you so much for sharing such an important moment in anime history!
ANIME HISTORY. Without this there wouldn't be any Evangelion....
In the mid 90s could remeber seeing ads for Otaku no Video in Previews . I had not seen it till this tear 2024 at age 43. I qish i knew more about it eralier,realy just spectacular.
Super inspirational moment, Daicon IV will forever be an important memory for me, like everyone else says it is a pivotal moment for the culture and animation industry. It’s moments like this I’m reminded that creativity is not an example of what you create that’s new, but what you create with the inspiration of things you’ve experienced in your time. With that regard I think while I had not grown up in the age this was animations pinnacle, I still hold it as a fond memory and hold things like this in high regards in terms of inspiration, the feeling is right there. Thank you Gainax
One of the few moments you could take a time machine to watch and not mess up the timeline XD
Nearly shed a tear. I'm choked up! My all-time favorite piece of animation. It's wonderful to hear the voices of people equally amazed by this work.
Interesting that the original played the whole ending segment of the song on the final frame while the VHS edited the song to end on the Daicon logo, this version also lacks the English spelling under the logo
I’m so glad someone record this moment after four decades.
Thank you so much for uploading this, it’s great to know there was a raw reaction rip from 1983. Hearing all those con goers cheering, laughing, and commentating the whole thing has just brought tears to my eyes. Thank you
wonderful
I'm not crying, you're crying.
I posted this live screening as a story on Instagram last month when Petsu-Chan retweeted it for the 40th anniversary. Im sad i haven't done anything for Daicon this year...
DAICON 33 never ever...
Please god during my lifetime let a VR headset transport me to watch this in the middle of this crowd.
If I got this kind of applause for one of my films, I'd be on Cloud 9. Seriously, it's amazing how much they loved it. This is an audience that understands on some level that they're witnessing a culture shift.
It's interesting that the version we can find on UA-cam from LD rips differs just slightly from the one seen here. The words "DAICON IV" don't appear in the final frame with the convention logo and the Bunny Girl comes out for a bow here.
I noticed this too. And the sun slowly rises above the horizon in the laser disk version, whereas it just sits motionless above the horizon untill zooming out in this version
You’re doing God’s work by making this available to the rest of us
Actually... WHO is this person that recorded this?! What is their story about being here? What were their feelings when they watched this? What about the other people there when it happened? Does anybody know but them?? Did any of them ever reminisce on it??
That might just be a thing to find out....
I was looking for that! And i can't lie i cried about looking the people being amazed at that time, it gives me so much nice vibes. Tysm for uploading it and if possible, you can be able to add on the video info the original tweet from where you found it, if still avaible? just to give credits.
Sure, I'll update the description
@@vanlukassen1894
This is a piece of anime history that should be seen by any and everyone. What a magnificent find.
Almost made me cry, not sure why, it's just so genuine and I never imagined I'd be able to see the actual reaction to this.
If it wasn't for this, many other Anime that would produced like GunBuster, wouldn't be around. This short literally changed *everything*.
Man, I'd just love to see this short in HD or whatever resolution it was originally intended to be watched..
why am I crying?? 💗
This is amazing, a piece of history, it seriously brings a tear to my eye
Eare, very rare momento, thanks!
I always thought how people received this opening
Thank you, now I know the vibe and it was fantastic.
Holy shit this footage exists!!!!???
This is so important. Please, don’t ever take it down!
I'm not exactly sure if I agree that it's important per say, but none the less, something to be cherished.
There's no testimony on this website more important than this one. Legitimately sobbing while typing, LONG LIVE GAINAX
Thank you SO MUCH for this, I can't express how grateful I am that someone captured this piece of history
I watched the LD version in early 2021, the animation and the music (I downloaded the whole album Time a few months later) have carried me on some of my lowest lows... I've seen several youtubers break down the significance of this short film, but I've always wondered how people reacted originally in 1983... I cried watching this... thank you for uploading this, this is a historical moment that must be preserved at all costs
Quite the piece of history you got there
I only meant to stay awhile. Absolutely beautiful moment
Why am i feeling nostalgic, i was born in 2001 😂
Omg the reaction tothe Macross part so gooooood
how about the interesting reaction from the flex with the iconic gainax signature characteristics?
Es irónico que ahora que Gainax se declara en bancarrota me aparece este video hecho por los fundadores de ese estudio cuando eran estudiantes. 😢
The absolute best reaction video.
I always watch this with a big fat grin on my face.
Great piece of history!
1983 2023 Happy 40th to all
This had me smiling the whole time. 😊
Thank you for post this time's treasure. 💎
this is just awesome!
Proper Reactions
This is a legacy.
One thing I couldn’t help but notice was that the music sounds slowed down compared to the final version on UA-cam, which is interesting because the final version speeds up the original ELO sound slightly. I’m guessing the recording of this video might’ve caused the slowdown, but I can’t help but wonder if Daicon IV was meant to be slower than it is in the final version, which would’ve helped make the faces in the giant crowd scene at the end easier to see.
As this was played on the 8mm film projector, it possibly didn't have the precision digital timing control, hence the different speeds. We can also hear speed wobbles a little at the beginning. Most likely this isn't the camcorder's fault, because it has its own good enough timebase control, and the image overal is pretty stable (otherwise it would shake perceivably)
I vaguely recall in a separate video where someone mentioned that the LD rips on UA-cam might not be accounting for the playback speed differences between Japanese LD players vs. NTSC (?), or something to that effect, and are slightly faster than they're supposed to be.
@@Kentama If that would be the case, the speed would differ dramatically (60Hz/50Hz would give more than 20% difference)
Just to think: it's the same year Commodore64 was released, and the demoscene was only yet to start existing. This is how long ago it was.
Back in the day
When otaku roamed the earth
Everything was alive and nothing would hurt
But everything has changed now there is nothing but pain
I know that you're scared but your will ain't broke we came from below headin' to a city of gold.
Or so i'm told...
伝説
This was amazing.
this is spectacular
_Shhhhhh, it's about to start._
0:03
Unbelievable.
Wow is this legit? There was some frames I never had seen before in other copies. Amazing
They still had some frames left to complete and the version we all know was finished soon after.
Noice, i found this channel again
it's unreal to see a direct video of the event ... thanks my good pal .
You're the only furry i love kek .
Que alguien le den yn reconocimiento al tipo que subió el video es la misma energía como cuando el publico vio el capitulo final de #dbs
*OH MY GOD!!!!*
TWI LIIIGHT
I only meant to stay awhile...
Its raining.
It looks to be played slower that I'm used to seeing it.