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- Опубліковано 6 лип 2023
- This has been a situation that's been brewing for a long while, and I've avoided talking about it with ever fiber of my being. But at this point, I need you all to know the truth, even if it's very hard for me to talk about. This video is going to seem very personal, and it is, but I hope everyone can understand that I've been forced to tell the actual story in order to stop lies from being spread.
"Ea vis mentitum. Hic veritas est." - Ігри
As someone who also worked on the iCarly project in a much smaller capacity I can say from my own experience that you were nothing but professional and kind.
This is definitely the 3rd side of the story that would be helpful to hear: what did the other collaborators on this video series think of Quentin's behavoir?
She says Quentin was knowingly and purposefully underpaying/overworking her, while Quentin says he wasn't even aware that she had such grievances until well after the fact. Now the only possible side of the story that's left is what did the other editors and members of the team think of the working conditions.
From what it sounds like, Quentin did his best to learn what fair and reasonable compensation and work schedules looked like, and while he may have fumbled in the beginning, he has since formed a healthy and productive work environment for all involved. It seems like what may have been missing here was more clear and open communication regarding the job expectations and professional relationship before and especially DURING the actual editing job, not after all was said and done.
I hope more team members will come out in the future to share their personal experiences working for the channel and what they thought of the work environment so that we can all form a more well informed opinion on what went wrong here and how it could have been prevented, if at all, as well as what can be done moving forward to keep this type of situation from occurring again.
Quinton concluded by asking his team to communicate with him should they ever feel unsatisfied with their working conditions (whether that be regarding financial compensation or labor hours being provided), and that seems like a very good step in the right direction imo. Workers should always feel comfortable sharing their concerns to their employer and actively encouraging them to unapologetically advocate for themselves is a solid way to foster a healthy workplace.
@@WhoWantsCake0 It's been a very positive experience being a part of Quinton's editing team. Everything Quinton says in this video about how he treats/pays his editors has been exactly my experience. He even offered to pay me weekly back when I got covid and couldn't work, and he told me to not worry about the deadline once when I didn't have an edit ready on-time so I wouldn't overwork myself. The other party's descriptions of working for Quinton do not match my experience being on the editing team - not even close. She's definitely leaving out context and making things up. She's doing this in bad faith and you shouldn't listen to her.
Hey, I'm curious and sorry for adding on, but she claims to have been the only editor on the second video, and his video description only credits her as well. Do you know anything about these claims because unfortunately the only thing muddying the waters imo is Quinton not discussing how many editors he had for the projects she was a part of and how much everyone was paid. I know that latter bit is a sensitive topic, but if he was paying about 1.4-2k to everyone for roughly the same amount of work, then her accusations of being underpaid really have no leg to stand on.
@@happysadyoyo8200yeah the confused me too. Mostly the fact that he claims there’s multiple editors for that video but he didn’t say who and the video only credits who, if there was a reason other editors were not credited (maybe they asked) then I felt that should of been mentioned.
@@happysadyoyo8200 To clarify, she was the only GUEST editor on the second iCarly video that I'm aware of. She did not edit the whole video herself. From what I can tell, she cut together just the bits that were Quinton narrating over clips from the show while he edited everything else. I have seen Discord messages where she is inquiring about the progress of the edit that Quinton is working on. To claim that she was the only editor is false and misleading. She was the only GUEST editor, but she was not the only editor. I don't personally believe Quinton attempted to underpay her, especially not for any malicious reason. He explains that he was expecting the second video to do worse than the first, which it did. However, his biggest mistake was likely not communicating this to her when she began on the project. It's why I would recommend he use actual contracts to avoid disputes like this in the future. Is this situation messy? Yes. Is it malicious manipulation and abuse? No, I don't think so. Fwiw, I've edited segments of similar lengths for Quinton and got paid very similarly to her. He absolutely treats his editors fairly as far as pay goes.
If I had feelings for someone and they said "You're my homie" I would just pack my things and bury my head into the ground lol
That's a CRYSTAL CLEAR "I have no interest" to me
Same! I even asked my 67 year old mom what she would take from that reply.
She said "friends and only friends. Walk away now!'
I had something similar happen to me. I also had feelings for someone, they told me I was just a good friend and I was like, alright. I get it. So I backed off, kept my distance. Eventually these feelings went away and now we're both friends. Not easy to not have your feelings reciprocated. But this happens and you have to maturely deal with it
Happened to me when I was in HS. It never impacted our friendship, because I went "oh okay sorry" and left it alone. Tried a year later (stupid kid brain disease thinking what's clearly just being a good friend MUST be romantic) and ofc nothing changed, so I dropped it for good. That was almost 6 years ago and we're still friends, and I have 0 interest in him that way anymore. It's perfectly normal to confess your feelings to someone you like, it's not normal to then take it so personally that you must attempt to ruin the other person's reputation if they reject you. It's not a big deal, there's plenty of fish in the sea, grow up.
This reminded me of how I would handle this stuff in high school lol. I had so many male friends ask me out and I would always say “what? But we’re buds! You’re like my bro!” And they would either not ever get the message or never talk to me again lol.
You can't assume people have as good of an emotional intelligence as you. Some people can't even read emotions well in that regard and people then to understand what they want, so, you need to be VERY clear with this stuff.
I looked up her Twitter thread and she opens with 'my proof is on a laptop that is in the shop for repair' which is always a red flag. People who pull this crap damage genuine victims!
i cant believe Quinton is being stalked by Hunter Biden /s
The fact that her video also has comments turned off is a red flag as well- she knows that people are going to be able to dispute her every claim and is trying to remove the space to do that.
@@bexclearly did she really do that? wow, it still had comments when i ran into it before, but they were dominated by people explaining everything provably false she said in the video.
Her video also opens with every trope ever:
**Le sigh**
"Guess I gotta do this video now"
**Wine pour**
This is some bad game review shit on an accusation video
Her truth is on those voice recordings that jeffree star has that totally prove he’s not a child predator you guys
I have worked with Quinton as part of his editing team (primarily on End of Victorious and Sam & Cat) and the way he describes working with his editors totally checks out. I never felt pressure to overwork or meet unreasonable deadlines (one time I submitted a section early and Quinton was pleasantly surprised) and I was paid an industry standard rate. Most importantly I was paid QUICKLY, which is unfortunately not always the case when working freelance. What it sounds like to me is that this editor was behaving very unprofessionally, crossing a lot of inappropriate boundaries, and ultimately ended up harassing Quinton for rejecting her advances. Very much incel behavior on her part, and it is very hard to navigate something like that as a creator when you are very much aware of the power imbalance of an employer/staff relationship. (btw total side note but I watched her video as well and I immediately got red flags, reminded me of the behavior of a stalkers I've encountered in the past) Stay safe, y'all.
Yep classic femcel/nicegirl
there has probably never been a more obvious example of "a woman scorned" in youtube drama than this
Quinton responding to low/no pay with "Girl I got RECEIPTS with the IRS."
and you know THEY don't fuck around with money
It’s a unique kind of horror when someone becomes violent towards you when you deny them access to your body... I’m so, so sorry Quinton.
This is stalking and sexual harassment. It is never appropriate to do this shit to anyone.
And by the way (not to Quinton but to people who may behave like his stalker)- if you love someone, really love and care about them- not your idea of them, *_them the human being,_* you cannot do this. Your love for them stops you. It forces you to communicate with the human being in front of you, bc you recognize their life and autonomy as precious, but more so like. Mandatory. As in consent isn’t just “cute” it’s fucking required.
The behavior this person has shown towards someone who doesn’t owe her access to him is very disturbing and strange. This should not be normal or acceptable behavior for anyone.
well said
It is definitely not sexual harassment at least what he showed in the video isn't. It was super weird and cringe and bad, though. She is for sure a femcel/nice girl. He didn't say she did anything unwanted sexually. Sounds like she just confessed to him and got super pissed off when he said no and started stalking and regular harassing him. Sexual harassment is a specific thing and you should not muddy the waters for people who actually got sexually harassed. Asking someone out is not sexual harassment. Asking someone for sex definitely can be.
I saw this framed as “Quinton being social awkward” but like…he wasn’t? He communicated perfectly fine, even in the screenshot his stalker posted. It is, in fact, the stalker who repeatedly miscommunicated and crossed boundaries. There are no extenuating circumstances for their behaviour. She chose to do bad things. End of story.
I think that was more in reference to why Dan Olsen doesn't like him and was pretty nasty towards him
@@elizabethb4168 wait what? Since when do Dan Olsen and Quinton have beef?
If anything, he was way too nice.
@@starcrash-ash6061 Dan replied to Quinton's tweet about this situation in completely bad faith, further accusing him of not paying his editors and, if I recall correctly, calling him a creep
He's since deleted the tweets and vague tweeted something along the lines of, "backing out of that, 1000% not worth it" once he was getting push back that he couldn't look like a good person responding to, cuz he was objectively in the wrong and making an ass of himself
For clarity, when I referenced Quinton being socially awkward (I think my tweet has been seen by more people than I expected >~>;), it was about a series of miscommunications between him and some of Olson's other big UA-camr friends which seem to have inspired some of this strange animosity that he and his friends have towards him, along with Q being maybe more frank about his personal problems in his fan spaces and generally chummier with his fanbase than he really needed to be earlier in his career, which a couple of people have also commented on. I don't want to speculate too hard about this, but as a neuroatypical person, a lot of this feels familiar to me-realising what kind of hard boundaries you need to set too late, accidentally being too forward when trying to make friends with people you're a little in awe of, the very *physical* manifestations of social anxiety and rejection sensitivity-and, I dunno, Dan's behaviour felt tremendously unempathetic to me. I get that maybe he doesn't have the full context or is getting his info from slanted sources, but like, I've been a fan of his for over a decade, I love his work, so my gut desire is to be charitable, but I thought what he said was pointlessly mean-spirited and weird.
It was really hard seeing you get visibly emotional about this. I don’t think this is - or should be - an apology video because, by and large, you have nothing to apologize for. You have the support of your community on this one.
Yeah, this. I wrote I comment but it's hard to put my feelings in words. I'm seeing other comments from people and thinking, "Yeah, that's what I meant to say."
Man not having a Twitter leads to some wild video reveals. Sucks you had to go through all this bullshit my guy
Ikr
you're telling me. I found out through tumblr!
Finding out about her after someone made a semi popular tweet about the I carly and victorius vids was crazy
I found out because someone mentioned it offhand in a nickisnotgreen comment
If I had a nickle for every time a very popular youtuber I watched made a video response to intense twitter drama I've never heard of before, I'd have two nickles. Which isn't a lot, but it's strange that it happened twice.
"I was the sole guest editor" into "sole editor" has really big Assistant to the Regional Manager vibes
One of the dms you showed is one she showed in her video too but she cut out the context of what she said and only showed what you said. I’m absolutely shocked. I’m glad you showed recipes because unfortunately this is the kind of stuff that bad people will make up as an excuse so I don’t think most people would have believed you otherwise. I’m so fucking sorry you had to go through this dude. No one should have to deal with stuff like this. I honestly don’t think anyone would mind if you took a break from working on the Sam and Cat video. Please prioritize your mental health over everything else
I would wait forever and a day on the next video if it meant Quentin got the chance to feel safe again. Always prioritize your health over meeting expectations
Yeah that part just immediately proved his innocence, the only reason someone would cut that out is to make themselves seem better.
@@skidzzthewiz9226which part?
Do you have a link to the video? I don't want to harass her but I want to know what her actual accusations are and how she went about saying them
@@youtube.handle69 ua-cam.com/video/0F2Pveb7Ilk/v-deo.html
ive never watched you but i’ve had personal problems with this girl. she’s been a cyberbully for a decade now, harassing friends of mine endlessly. and craves drama and being the victim. she dated someone and then ghosted them and then turned around and told her subscribers/followers that she was abused by this person. just a vile fucking human being. i’m sorry she did this to you as well. she’s one of the most disgusting people i’ve ever had the misfortune of knowing.
Damn she is probably mentally ill or smth
I'm sorry you've had to deal with that.
Uff, its still best to leav hr alon not giving her any validtion, but uff
I'm sorry you went through that. It must be surreal seeing her do it to someone else.
I'm agree with you, that's why i must have trusted friend than untrusted or betrayed friend.
Quinton’s body language in the second half really shows how uncomfortable and upset this makes him
This right here, the stimming and rocking made ME uncomfortable, you can just tell how awful the situation is. The most heartbreaking part for me was when he crossed his arms to keep them from moving, I know that experience all too well. I feel so awful that he had to relive that just to clear the air
Was genuinely uncomfortable watching that, was like watching myself in the mirror. Felt really bad for him there. I saw the video and had a feeling something was off. She completely omitted this giant fucking facet of their interactions it's crazy
It's not genuine
@@Rich_P_Anyawhy do you think that? Seems pretty genuine to me, but then again body language analysis is pseudoscience at best
I believe everything Quinton has said, but I just want to point out that body language doesn't really prove anything, neither innocence nor guilt, and you shouldn't really on it
“You need sleep.”
“Please don’t work this late it’s 3 am.”
“I really enjoy having you in my life as a friend and editor!”
This editor: “…Oh yeah, he’s *totally* in love with me and also wants me to work harder.”
So she martyred herself because she had a crush on you, you kindly friendzoned her, and now because she's embarrassed and hurt she wants to drag your name through the mud and lie about you 🙄 I would describe this as high school shit on her part if she wasn't actively trying to ruin your career. Very sorry you had to go through that - she sounds like an unhappy and manipulative person.
Okay, I didn't know that this had happened at all. However, if she's brought it to the public first, you have a right to show your half of the story. I'm sorry that you've had to go through this, and you especially spelling out why you don't want to pursue anything should have been enough. End of sentence. This was not a great thing to happen, and I'm sorry.
She has, I’m not gonna put her name here but yes, she made a video about this whole thing
It's very, very clear from this particular editor's online presence that they have made it part of their brand to trash Quinton, framing the payment she got for the videos as if those were for editing the total run time of both of them, and using that payment situation in combination with times Quinton has been a bit openly depressed on the Discord to imply he's the abuser. Then people reframe cringey DMs (Not sexual, just sort of awkward) he sent to other content creators as nails in the coffin, as if anyone with eyes couldn't just read these messages and thing "Oof, probably shouldn't have sent that, but that's obviously the rambling of somebody having a really shitty time who needs to take a social media break" rather than read anything more sinister into it.
(That is, if those posts were created by him. Even assuming they were, it's nothing damning and never has been)
if you don't want the people you employ trashing your reputation don't treat them like shit
@@Feasco idk man, she was a stalker that figured out how to be his contractor. That's something different from employee
@@Feasco Anyone who has watched all of Quinton's video should be able to see that the editor in question wasn't treated like shit, not even close. Her behaviour was way out of line and she should seek therapy for her very obvious problems.
as someone who reached out to Quinton about editing and ended up being the one to ghost him (sorry quinton, my personal life got really hectic) Quinton was nothing but cordial and gave me very clear information about the expectation for work (2-3 weeks work time per section) right off the bat. This would have been right after the release of the second victorious video I believe, whenever he sent out the call for editors in the video.
It's really surreal the tone and seriousness of the video, whilst being surrounded by Garfield's
Very true 🐱
I just assume this is the only spot in the house where the Garfields leave enough room for a chair and a camera.
It’s that big smirk on Garfield’s face for me as he looks off into the distance 😭
It's his comfy room.
This is straight-up sexual harassment. Inexcusable. I'm so sorry.
especially writing in more sexualised interpretations of the media she was originally editing like come on that's so weird.
@ranga274F rankly that's the one bit I at least sort of understood, because the Dan Schneider shows have a lot of extremely inappropriate sexual references and innuendo that have no business being in kids shows. I did notice there were some gross moments that Quinton skipped over in the iCarly videos.
No... it's just harassment. Why does everything have to be sexual?
@@KombatGod It literally constitutes under US federal law as sexual assault. Don't downplay this.
@@Hawkatana it is not "sexual" nor "assault" (which you only now added), and I am not downplaying it.
I know the editor in question. I kept quiet for a while but I feel like I should actually say that watching this all go down in person was fucking wild. We were romantically involved at the time and it was heartbreaking when that person dumped me to focus on trying to do something about those romantic feelings for Quinton. I still had feelings for this person and was still hanging out with them (at the person’s request), and those feelings were used during this ordeal to make me believe that Quinton was in the wrong. The thing about this particular person is that they will never acknowledge that they were in the wrong because they get a massive high off of being or acting like the victim. I feel like I’ve been in a much better place without that person in my life, and I can only imagine how much better Quinton’s life will be after this blows over.
hi are you aware that in her latest video they used this relationship as proof that they didn’t have romantic feelings and thus would not pursue a relationship due to being in one. im sorry youve had to deal with this person. every time a person comes forward about them she seems to be insufferable
@@AgnesGeorges What? I was not aware of this. They ended romantic ties with me to pursue Q. That’s what they said to me countless times! God, that pisses me off so much. I was used and had my heart broken and now I’m being used as a pawn in their stupid games AGAIN.
@@Da12thKindI imagine you've either looked at the video yourself by now, or chosen to remove yourself from the matter entirely (either way, commendable) but yeah, wild.
it would be pretty cool if people didn't go and attack the person accusing him when he explicitly said not to do that
edit 9/18/2023: months after i've seen plenty of videos drama-mongering about this, naming the accuser, making fun of them. this isn't about supporting quinton, this is about wanting fill a quench for blood. i'm not disappointed, i expected nothing less from the internet
Agreed. I hate it here
Especially bc people like that are a waste of energy and time.
Let her be alone. Really alone.
Yup, and especially because any of his viewers harassing her would only further her belief in him being an abuser.
I left a comment on one of her videos telling her how shitty it is for her to openly mock his depression before I watched this video. Deleted the comment immediately after. All of Quinton's fidgeting during the second half looked like a genuine panic attack brought on by just how much he doesn't want to make this video. She's a shitty person, but vocalising that to her achieves nothing and probably terrifies Quinton.
yeah realistically crew her but also if sh gts in a bttr hadspace.
Plus she will use it to stoak more drama and will thake aparntly ay validation, just leave her alone. I mean its a rule with trolls, but i think she thrives on any attenton on tat too, so leave her alone.
Her very worst allegations were that he overworked and underpaid her and was kind of a bad friend. That is petty interpersonal bull that should’ve stayed offline. Her behavior borders on harassment and it seems like he responded in the most considerate, responsible way possible.
not that i disagree with you, but there have been huge issues on youtube with people overworking and underpaying their editors and i think editors have a right to make it known that youtubers do that. with this specific situation however, i think it was largely mistake over malice and neither of them having much experience at the time and that she should have left it off -platform
@@Bella-pb6ukis there a reason why they can’t just deny the job if they don’t want to do it…?
@@Bella-pb6uk I agree, especially with mistake over malice. Unlike other UA-camrs, he didn’t have a team or a company. He was just one guy who didn’t have any experience in the industry yet making a few mistakes.
@ducky19991 that's the kind fo take people tell fast food workers when they wanna fight for a livable wage. This is a bad take and you're a bootlicker for capitalism
@@ducky19991 it really depends on the situation! it could be that they've just been really struggling w jobs, the relationship changes while they're in it, the youtuber has a lot of privilege/power over them, etc. some editors are in a position to deny jobs, but some aren't and that can lead to some really harmful situations
Hi Quentin, resident GEN X old fart here: I want to take this moment to assure you *YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO SAY NO* . You clearly didn't lead this girl on. Demanding extra money post production or "I'm going to smeer you in public" is extortion and libel. You have the receipts, do not let that slide. Equality means the road goes both ways.
In the future (and you DO have a future) contracts, contracts, contracts. No one is your friend when there's money involved. No one's a homie if you're paying them. Line 1 should cover base and overtime pay rates and line 2 should be the "I do not ever ever ever date employees" clause.
You're not gonna like this, but you should absolutely lawyer up. People like this, who feel entitled to other people, do not stop until they are MADE to stop. Ignoring her is only going to keep empowering her because she will ramp up the bullshit to FORCE you to pay attention to her. Any attention is good attention to a stalker.
Get that rest, Quentin. I can easily see how much this has affected you. I've been where you are, inside the dark tunnel that seems endless. It's not, and you're not alone. 🤗
"You my Homie" Awwww Quinton i mean yeah could have been better but as a chubby queer guy whose gotten ALOT of rejections yours woulda been a breath of fresh air for what its worth. Im so sorry you had to go through all that stuff just know we love ya and support ya!
Yeah, that is a very sweet and cute way of turning someone down!
@@Kevinblue035I like all of that stuff and I am a straight cis male... So that doesn't mean much.
@@misteryA555no it wasn't. What are you smoking
@@Puerco-Pottere're not talking about you
@@Kevinblue035 I don't know anything about Quinton's sexuality (and it doesn't matter fwiw) but just saying in general bisexuals exist and are often visibly and aesthetically queer too. That said, yeah, this person probably wouldn't give a damn even if he were gay, with how many boundaries she crossed
When I worked with you on the McDonald’s video, you were super great to work with and there was a lot of stressful technical stuff going on behind the scenes. I’m in your editor discord and I had no idea this was going on as well! I’m sorry this is something you had to go through.
EDIT: now that I watched all the way through, I would like to emphasize that you were nothing but respectful and kind to me and you DEFINITELY payed me.
Paid* payed is a nautical term. Good thing you're an editor and not a novelist I guess
I do have an English degree though, so that’s cool
@@andrewwdavvid Doing pretty good if their best criticism is accidental use of an archaic phrase they likely googled.
Hey, JoryKorvid, deleting the thread where you told me to unalive myself isn't an apology. But I would appreciate one. Thanks.
See, I profoundly apologised for an accidental misgender. You deliberately encouraged a person you believe has mental health issues to self terminate.
I was a big enough person to apologise to you for my mistake. Prove yourself a decent person by apologising for your deliberate malice.
@@andrewwdavvid Yeah no shit, English degrees are useless; that's why you're an editor
On the note of “this isn’t an apology”, you shouldn’t have to apologise for other people spreading false information. You acknowledged there’s a couple minor things you could have done a little better but that’s very human, you’ve done as much as you could and anyone blaming you for this seems wilfully ignorant of the facts tbh. Stuff like this can be pretty traumatic and I hope you’re able to have some level of peace with this going forwards
I know this is serious but "you my homie" took me out😂 on a serious note I'm sorry you had to address this stuff publicly
As an asexual being I related to "u my homie" almost to much.
I'm responding to all messages moving forward as "u my homie" and no one can stop me.
New de-escalation tactic acquired
"U my homie" god I once told a guy "Sorry bud" this is extremely relatable
@@landshark3509if I confessed feelings to a girl and got a “sorry bud” I would become the first ever atheist monk.
I’d laugh about it in a month or two
…
but I’d still stay a monk!
I remember awhile ago seeing the thread where she said "I worked for three days straight and didn't do anything but edit so I could get it done fast!" and I remember thinking "Ok that's bad... but did he ASK you to do all that???" and the comments were all saying things like "Well, he should have known the pressure he was putting her under, he abused his power dynamics over a fan! Look at all the negative feedback he's sending her!" And sure, his revisions looked like a lot, but all the other Discord messages from him that she screen shotted were things like "I understand you're busy with school now, take your time! Don't worry about rushing through!"
Also it wasn't a "Fan dynamic". It's a commissioned job. If you overwork yourself with no instructions to do so, you're just a bad professional
This is such an important point.
She even admits that she was purposefully overworked herself in an attempt to IMPRESS Quentin!
Like gurl, no person is ever worth self-harming over! Please put your own health above the possible affections of another!
For someone so overworked she sure had time to keep messaging him
I want to take the word "abuse" away from Gen Z. They don't know how to use it.
Abstracted from this situation, comments that say "don't stress" or "take your time" aren't always helpful in creative work if there's no discussion of practical accommodation or change in deadlines to match the workload.
Although if someone is slamming out the work quickly in their own decided hours, especially in freelance, that is up to the person and you'd generally expect more mistakes.
It's certainly not professional or fair to withhold communicating your work boundaries to someone only to turn around and weaponise it when that someone protects their personal boundaries against you.
Everyone knows this makes no sense because Quinton only has eyes for Garfield.
Frfr 🐱
So Quinton can do whatever he wants because he's an ugly sexless Garfield fan? Cool to know
accusing someone of horrible shit isn't how you get over rejection. I'm sorry this happened Quinton. just know I'll allways support the channel in any way I can
man. so thrilled that i'm unplugged enough from internet drama that i had no idea this was happening. you're a real one, q. keep on keeping on.
I saw the title of this vid in my notifications and got so worried. this is blatant sexual harassment and emotional manipulation. none of this is your fault and I hope you realize that, especially since when this started it was your first time making basically an entire documentary. thank you for your content and contribution to the internet.
Literally the fact she was dming him drunk and sharing this and hoping she could extract romance from him … ugh 🤢🤮 So gross. If I was Quinton, I would feel so violated. Then I’d be additionally horrified that she’d stalk and harass.
Her saying she was deliberately hurting herself to impress him and why wasn’t he impressed and why isn’t she good enough after she chose to harm herself and pin that on him is really fucking disturbing to me. Especially after how many times he made clear that her work ethic was making him very uncomfortable and besides that the work was horrible quality bc of course it was.
It is ungodly awful that even after you went through all this painstaking effort to prevent situations involving parasocial power imbalances and trying to disarm this as delicately and civilly as humanly possible this STILL exploded into something like this regardless. So sorry, you're going through this.
with people like that it is insanely difficult to disarm pretty much any of it because pretty much the only wire to cut is the one that makes it explode
@gir8244 Well said, seems that no matter what Quentin did this was never going to end a reasonable manner.
Imagine if he had accepted her love confession and began dating this crazy person. The fallout would have been 10x worse bc the entire relationship would have been founded on her purposefully self-harming, by overworking herself to the point of endangering her health, on the off-chance that he would have taken note and seen that as admirable instead of the insanity it truly is.
Why hasn't he apologized to Sarah and Lindsey for putting them in the same situation?
@@snacksizeattila2076_Some DMs_ is not the same thing as two years of harassment which even include public videos...
@@snacksizeattila2076 I dunno if more messages were ever shared besides what Sarah Z and Lindsey Ellis posted, but from what I read it came across as uncomfortable parasocial stuff but not "You're so special to me and I love you" levels. And do we know for a fact he 'hasn't apologised'?
Besides, it seems like a really weird take. Like it implies that he deserves abuse for having abused in the past, when surely the outcome we should strive for is for nobody to be abusing anyone, and in this case I've seen pretty compelling evidence Quinton was a victim in this instance.
Can't believe that the man with a gigantic Garfield always occupying a third of the frame is the one giving an EXEMPLARY show on how to beat allegations
The fact that you paid her more when she asked and then she tried to use that to show that you were underpaying her is absolutely insane
I wish people would understand that their romantic feelings for someone aren't that person's responsibility.
I saw one of her posts on tiktok and when I saw it I could tell something was wrong, everything was extremely out of context, and when I looked it at objectively it just didn't seem like you had done anything wrong? Like even from her warped and antagonistic potrayal of the situation it looked more like a miscommunication than anything malicious
Exactly this! I saw her tiktok too and immediately could tell it was vague and something wasn't right. I support him
Absolutely, all I got from her "callout video" was that at most it painted Quinton as a little disorganized and having trouble with a new level of success and a new workflow. Not something I would even bring up afterwards if I encountered it in a professional context.
Even taking her at her word from the tic tok. all she could come up with was “is a pain to work with” which isn’t something to call someone out on imo? It just stuck me as weird and attention grabby. When I saw her video a few weeks later I had the thought that she posted it cause her other “callout” got no traction
@@mrkrabs806 even her 'he's a pain to work with' complaints were..... he wasn't working at a rate SHE (the employee in the situation) thought was acceptable.
It was quite literally a situation of "dude go do your shit until you see the message you've got the assets, don't gotta sit around stressin"
@@tatermusic oh yeah that’s what happened with the added context, but that’s all she could say before was “I didn’t like working with him”
I was unaware of all of this. But holy shit I'm sorry. This is abuse. And now shes going to be used by the small weird army of vocal dorks who simply hate you for being pro trans rights to harass you. Stay strong!
this man's body language is saying everything. I never seen a man in such stress and social anxiety. I hope you everything gets better.
Some people just can't understand the fact that just because you like them and they don't like you back doesn't mean you go spread bad stuff about them that are not true. edit:i just watched her video and oh my god it is so bad
Quinton should know that...but he continually kept being a pest to women who did not like him
@@snacksizeattila2076 Here's some of that attention you want.
@@beardedbear9901 quinton is an emotional abuser trying to dump his problems on others. Sliding into saras dms with a "im sad and lonely" when she didnt reply to him the first time. He's just getting his karma.
@@snacksizeattila2076 You're here because he said something true but unflattering about some alt right brain daddy, right?
@@snacksizeattila2076 she got mad because Quinton didn't like her romantically and second she was drunk and clearly drinking when she made her video so I don't trust anything she saids, she's not taking this seriously
Homie is the kiss of death in any romantic situation. The fact that she kept going says more about her than anyone else.
Marge Simpson walks away dejectedly
@@rainbowlack Could y'all stop with the good bits, I'm trying to watch a serious video here
Hey, DO NOT blame yourself for this. You say you didn't do a good job turning her down, but you did nothing to provoke that reaction. What happened is not your fault. Not even a little.
this story touches me very deeply. the last guy friend i ever had, showed his true intentions once i got a boyfriend that wasn't him. and i understand that exact level of anger that follows the rejection, shattering that fantasy they had the whole time. it fills me with disgust knowing someone was just waiting for their 'opportunity', spreading rumors about our relationship, while i was thinking we were really good friends. and when it hits the wall, they're so consumed by their own hurt that they have no room to consider how their predatory behaviors literally destroy our trust. like, that's not how you go about finding a partner... i have a lot of empathy for anyone in this situation. i hope you can leave this in the past as soon as possible.
Hey Quinton, we love your stuff man. Sorry this happened, and thank you for your maturity on this matter.
This sounds like a case where it should have stopped at "hey I like you" and your response being "I'm sorry, no"
All the things after were super unnecessary and it's frustrating to see that it escalated for you like this. Wishing you the best as a fan.
Yeah, I think short and simple rejections are the best to go, however harsh they may seem. Not blaming Quinton in anyway, but when his rejection included that he'd known about the crush for a while, I frickin KNEW the other person was gonna claim he took advantage of her feelings.
But again, that's not Quinton's fault. This person was probably gonna spiral like this no matter what he said.
@@RLane-xz5cj I don't think you're wrong, but I think it's worth noting that most neurodiv people spend their entire life being misinterpreted (often in bad faith) by almost everyone around them, including loved ones. It's common for people like that to be long-winded and exhaustive when handling sensitive subjects because we understand that, during times like these, you absolutely do NOT want any room for misinterpretation.
I really wish there was an easy way to get over that tendency.
@@josefinaz6834yeah 😅
It’s hard to set a boundary as a socially anxious person. It’s even harder when the person on the other side of the boundary can’t handle the word no. Thanks for talking to us about this, but sorry you had to.
Sorry about how horrible this was for you. So sorry.
Quinton Is a se* pest who uses his discord server as therapy to trauma dump on people
@@snacksizeattila2076 One crumb more of attention.
it's not all about him
@@CotSwossel could you elaborate?
I think a key issue here is when you care about someone in that way you FEEL like you have to go above and beyond for them and I don't think this person realizes that even though they felt they had to, Quinton didn't want that.
Very well said.
Overworking yourself (whether that be working for less compensation than you feel you deserve or working to the point that it endangers your health) is not an admirable or noble behavior, no matter the unethical employers who might try to convince you otherwise.
The creepiest part is when she accused you of not working hard enough, and cited seeing you buy things on eBay. Huh???? Was she stalking your eBay account???? That’s so fucking creepy and obsessive. Is she mad that you went grocery shopping during production too?
When the stuff came out on twitter recently and I saw people I respected commenting negatively about you i felt really confused because even after reading the threads and the posts nothing felt that serious or egregious? I even said "even if this is bad it feels like a situation where we ought to assume a mistake rather than malice"
Yeah even what she was wrongly claiming wasn't even that bad
It's the illusion that a series of mistakes he has made in the past paint this picture that he's shady. When anybody willing to examine each piece individually is going to realise him wanting to make friends with content creators like you used to see once upon a time with collaborations and what not doesn't really connect to him underpaying an editor.
"He must have murdered the victim, because I overheard him say he doesn't like dogs!"
@@Joe90hThis + the fact that she refused to share any of her grievances until AFTER Quentin turned down her romantic advances, makes the whole ordeal look so....pre-planned.
Obv I hope that she didn't have prior intentions to run a smear campaign on him should he end up rejecting her, but you gotta admit, the speed at which she flipped from "I don't want to lose what we have" to "you purposefully took advantage of my feelings to overwork and underpay me" looks so suspect
@@Joe90htbf not liking dogs is 20% of the way to proof of a murder 😂
Yeah a lot of people on "left tube" I thought were cool, Dan Olson and Lady Emily and Sarah Z- I just dunno if I can think about them the same way after this. It's just such snakelike behavior.
I went to watch her video before yours. I had to “tap out” because she comes across as so unlikeable, contrived and disingenuous. I think you are fully justified in defending yourself in the way you have in this video. Sorry you’re going through this.
Yeah, I watched it and it seemed very apparent she was painting stuff
I would sort of like to see it, but, I don't know why. I would know she was lying and I don't really want to give her page the activity. Lol
i watched it too, and she keeps complaining about totally normal stuff?? like quinton will give totally normal responses to her messages and she's like "this is proof he's a monster"
i managed to make it through the whole thing thanks to 2x speed, and yeah, the way she showed things was so disingenuous. i looked through the google drive of all the screenshots before and was very confused how any of it showed any wrongdoing. the only thing i could see being a valid criticism in the vid was the pay and the workload, but also, at no point in her "evidence" did she show him asking her to do that much. and from this video, it's clear that she was doing all of that on her own, and tbh if her work was not quality and was produced so quickly when he planned on her doing one part in two weeks, i think the pay is fair? not to mention, he says if she asked for more before she started harassing him, he would've paid her more (no clue about usual editing pay though so i could be wrong). but yeah; she's trying to pick evidence because he rejected her and paint him as bad when she forced herself to work all those crazy hours and skip classes. she sounds just like creepy guys ive had in DMs. i hope people listen to quinton before jumping to conclusions about this situation; she's genuinely seeking to ruin his reputation over being rejected.
She completely left out her feelings for Quinton, didnt mention it whatsoever. But she goes on about how he uses discord for 'talk therapy' and acts like hes a manipulative slave laborer. She didnt sign a contract at all, but she was also upset about the pay rate and said that she worked on these videos for 7hrs/day for weeks missing sleep etc.
IF that were true that Quinton gave her outrageous deadlines, she had every right to step away, let her concerns be known, etc. Yes the person was young and 'naive'? But even when I was 16 working in a fast food place, I was getting sexually harassed by a manager and I put in a complaint then quit the job. Nobody was FORCING her to work on these videos. Quinton did not have this lady in his basement whipping her forcing her to edit. She did this on her own and if her time management/caring for herself skills are poor then thats on her. Also, her reaction to Quinton rejecting her is ALSO her problem.
It’s refreshing to see actual evidence and defense and not just a theatre kid and a ukulele. In all seriousness, I’m sorry you had to go through this, but I am glad you are approaching it correctly.
Why is it that when someone is a victim of sexual harassment, they have to bend over backwards to prove that it isn't somehow their fault? It truly sucks. I am not like a mega-fan of this channel, to be clear, I'm not here to be like "Quinton Reviews is my fave who can do no wrong", I just hate when people do victim-blaming. My advice is to take time off social media and focus on your own healing, but I know UA-camr culture can make that impossible. Sorry you had to go through that, seriously.
Ehh, on youtube it seems that only amab victims have to bend over backwards. Afab folks? Hell, they can be obviously delusional alcoholics who are lying about their victim and they'll be believed.
She sexually harassed and threatened you and painted herself as the victim when you didn't give in. This is unacceptable and I am so disappointed in the breadtubers who decided to jump in on this because they personally didn't like you. Fuck man. I hope you're doing alright.
OK, I can understand the chuds on the right attacking him, but which breadtubers fell for it?
@@Call-Me-IThats insane, Q himself has praised some of those people. I like Dan Olsen a lot. As for Lady Emily she's always been kind of a jerk imo. But commenting on this is so out of their fucking lane. What are they thinking?
@@Call-Me-I My theory (this one is based on personal experience of something similar):
What started out as mean girls shit-talking got out of hand. This is wildly disproportionate to what is in the public sphere so either they know something we don't, or (and this is what I think is more likely) they've just been making him the butt of their jokes in private chats for a while. Probably speculating about his private life, past deeds etc.
But if you do that, you create a kind of hologram. They don't actually hate Quinton, they hate this messed-up version of him that only exists in their own heads. Presented with the real thing, they can't actually rationalise their dislike for him. So they're forced to say something, anything to justify it. Lady Emily's post can be boiled down to "I assume weirdos are actually sexual harassers or abusers, because that's the only thing that justifies how much I hate them".
A seriously fucked up way to live, self-destructive too.
@@DeoMachinaLady Emily has an entire video about hate-groups directed at creators (the Cinemassecre Backlash) and shes doing the same things she spoke of in that video, stuff she said made her uncomfortable. I had to unsubscribe from her after this.
@@Call-Me-I If Lady Emily really said "people get blacklisted for a reason" that's a really dangerous lie. Just tell us what he did wrong??
I'm not interested in sarah Z but I like folding ideas. I've watched him and Q fir the same amount of time. It's so weird to think he would twist what was said in this video.
I dont have any other social media, so I only noticed one of them doing it before (Lady Emily in her second Nostalgia Critic video... I was very confused why single out Quinton Reviews?? Now I know... sort of.) I guess they dont talk about him on youtube enough for me to notice. I wish they would be open about what they dont like about him.
this is incel level harassment. im so sorry you went through this dude.
Lady incels are real. Quinton responding to this person like a woman who is trying to turn down advances in a way that won’t get them murdered.
She has incel mannerisms lmao
I'm sorry this happened to you. IMO the only actual mistakes you made, like not having a set payment process at the time, are very common for content creators who're hiring editors for the first time, and you've obv improved on that front. It sucks that the situation had to be dragged out like this.
Her complaining that she didn’t have enough content to edit is wild when you are the damn client. You make the rules, you make the timetable. The client doesn’t bend over to the staff.
I actually ran into this individuals tweets in the wild while searching for Quinton's twitter handle, and the way Quinton frames their tweets here is pretty accurate from what I saw. I've been wondering for a while if Quinton would say something and much of what he's said here aligns with how I analyzed the negative tweets the person made of him. I also want to add that it's really classy how he doesn't name this person, either their legal name or social media handle, and that he's only asking for privacy and understanding. I'm so sorry you had to deal with this, Quinton. No one should have to deal with this BS
this sort of thing has happened to me before and it's really stomach-churning to see youtubers i once had respect for completely disregard the fact that quinton was sexually harassed and then publicly harassed for months because he committed the crime of being... socially awkward?
feel better soon quinton.
sorry, i’m about half an hour into this video and i’m floored that she weaponized the fact that she willingly threw so much of her day to day life to edit when that wasn’t asked of her at all. we’re all here for you quinton.
As a fan, I saw that expose video and was pretty concerned, but holy SHIT - the lies were so blatant. Omitting that she had feelings for you is reason alone to not trust anything she's saying because that is an INCREDIBLY important detail to leave out. Spmeone else here said it already, but this is just straight up sexual harrasment.
I'm really sorry you've gone through this. Your perspective and the way you have expressed your feelings are completely valid. It is heartbreaking to hear your uneasyness and see you so uncomfortable. 😢
From what I saw what she posted of dms, I could kinda tell what kind of situation it may have been, since I was in a similar situation of someone not understanding boundries and even used to help an online aquaintence dealing with this exact issue of someone who had a crush on a creator and then felt slighted when "things didnt work out" and wanted to cause as much damage as possible. It was probably for the best to make a video on the issue, hope things get better and the drama dies down finally.
proud of you for telling your side, but dear god i can sense how uncomfortable she made you. i hope you're ok.
Harassment is still harassment when women harass men.
this is true but it isnt really something that has to be brought up lmao. like, we know.
@@moppupaws nah it definitely has to be brought up, not just "like, we know"; a lot of people don't and still acting like harrassment is only a problem when it's men do it to women, we have to keep reminding ourselves and each other that Harassment is still harassment when women harass men
Especially the way that a lot of people on her side were taking shots at his looks, like... just because a guy "looks" like what you think creeps look like doesn't give you the right to assume he's a creep. Stop saying "Of course the neckbeard desperately hit on a woman lol"
@@missybarbour6885yeah, people took similar shots at him years ago when Sarah Z and Lindsay Ellis ghosted him on twitter. Seems like a simple case of misreading their friendship, but a lot of people online read it as him “sliding into their dms” or whatever. I wish people would stop shooting people for their looks, a lot of the hottest people you know are abusers too
@@moppupawsClearly the girl who harrased Quentin for multiple years at this point didn't know
I’ve encountered precisely one person in my social media sphere who mentioned this. I read up on the evidence that was retweeted, and I wasn’t persuaded.
I kept it in mind, in case this became a pattern or something big came about but nothing ever did. Now watching this video, those backburner concerns are assuaged.
Sorry you’re having to deal with all this, buddy.
I had the exact same experience! If multiple editors had complained about how they were treated it would be a problem, but I was pretty quickly convinced that this was one person trying to start trouble
yeah this, I watched the editor's first Quinton video and I sympathised with them trying to meet deadlines whilst also being really busy with university.
I did think (from that video) Quinton had been unprofessional and as someone who had been making videos a long time should've known to sort a contract out from the get go
Like there was a lot of 'this is basically a glassdoor review but with some heated personal comments thrown in for flavour'
but like these weren't career ending allegations unless it turned into a pattern of exploiting labour
Given we haven't heard from any other editors, it seems like this video may be accurate in that this person was putting themselves under way more pressure than they needed to combined with Quinton not really having a proper team of editors yet (since no one quite Got what the nick videos were going to be until after iCarly came out)
@@missybarbour6885 Yeah, I hate to dismiss such claims out of hand, but there wasn’t much there and Q’s added context and evidence puts the situation in perspective.
I'm so sorry. Some people just feel completely entitled to the reality they have created in their own heads.
I think the most annoying part of this is the vagueposting people are doing about this (e.g. dan olsen and lady emily)
39:52 I'm happy to hear you recognized your fuck ups. It terrible that those mistakes have had such terrible consequences, and you really didn't deserve this.
I can say from personal experience working with Quinton that once I slowed down things got a lot better for my workflow. He told me to slow down way early on. While I did like giving him a fast turnover there were 0 fuckups when I paced myself
Even if this is not his fault for the most part, it's still important for him to acknowledge those mistakes he did make. We all can always do better, and we can't control others, we can only control ourselves. But his accepting his errors does not make him "at fault" here -- indeed, it helps to demonstrate even more clearly that he is not.
I'm honestly gobsmacked by this whole situation. I cannot even imagine the emotional toll this must have taken, and the fact that you opening up about being *stalked and harassed* is being met with victim-blaming and snide remarks from other content creators is honestly just heinous. I agree with everyone here, the behavior from this past editor was inexcusable, and I'm so, so sorry you had to deal with this, that you felt forced to put out something so vulnerable, and that you've had the stress of drama-hungry, terminally online vultures hovering over you on top of it all.
I absolutely agree with what some others have said here; if you need to take a break because of all this, nobody would blame you at all. You need to take care of yourself first and foremost, and while obviously it's not as easy as "pshhh, just don't worry about what other people think!", the way this editor and the people trying to profit off of this situation and turn you into a punching bag have behaved says a lot more about them than it does about you. You had every right to speak up about this, and you shouldn't feel embarrassed or ashamed for doing so. We're all strangers online, but you're a human being, and you deserve basic respect and dignity like anyone else.
Hey man,
I recognise my 14yo self in that person. Like craving attention and love from a power figure.
Obviously the problem is that this person is much older than fourteen.
This is sexual harassment on many levels and I’m really sorry you went through that.
One thing I want to say and emphasise is that you did pretty much everything right. You never seem to have sent mixed messages, you were clear and professional about it.
I can tell this is affecting you a good amount and you don’t deserve those yucky feelings.
I hope you can move on swiftly and that this person gets the help they need.
I’m not a doctor or psychiatrist but this isn’t something that someone completely healthy would do at all. I glimpsed at their video and I see the mania I sometimes experience in their eyes.
This isn’t a good situation for either of you and I hope they can realise that soon. I understand why and how they might not be able to get help but I sincerely hope they find a way because this is dragging you and them in something so deeply unhealthy…
Anyway, I hope this resolves itself without too many hassles and that you know to take good care of yourself.
I’ve been loving the content, have a good day/night ❤
that is the nicest, most kind, clear, and compassionate way you could have possibly turned this person down
if someone says they're drunk in a text, they usually aren't
A BILLION PERCENT. It's usually just a way to deflect responsibility feom whatever cringy thing they're about to do or say.
If they were drunk then the message would not make any sense and have bad grammar and spell mistakes since your not thinking properly
True. As someone who drinks, I’ll usually say “I’m tipsy” or “I’ve been drinking.” But I’ve also never brought that up in the context of a confession. Mostly just responses to “wyd?” lol.
ehhhh i believe her when she said she was drunk
nah bro ive sent 'im drunk' way too many times and every time its been the truth. alcohol can impair your decision making way before your ability to type coherent sentences. what was shown in the video seems like a legit thing a drunk person would send
Man, the couple subtweets about you I've seen from essay UA-camrs AFTER this went up feel even more gross now. If your story is all straight, I'm really sorry you're going through this, Quinton.
im not on twitter, is that true? nasty stuff fr
@@helloliahi Yeah Dan Olson, Lady Emily and Sarah Z (on tumblr) all took mean potshot at him.
@@BE-fw1lr Sarah was making fun of another UA-camr
@@TheStarBot You know considering she posted it like eight days after the Colleen drama broke and coincidentally right at the same time Lady Emily posted her QuintonReviews potshot, I somehow doubt that.
@@TheStarBotyeah Sarah is literally covering her ass. She's still refusing to just be up front because she's trying to signal to people who hate Quentin that she also hates Quentin without invoking the ire of her other fans. Like the white woman she is.
It says a lot that members of your team are actively commenting here about how great you are to work with.
only halfway thru the video, and just have to praise ur use of the list in ur rejection letter. like as an autistic person whose been in this kind of situation before (tho not w someone i've WORKED FOR), and that's like everything i would have wanted to hear. how TF is this person gonna make u out to be the bad guy in this situation-
Quinton, this whole situation is horrible and I am so sorry about it. However, "U my homie" is objectively hilarious, and I could tell you thought that too when you read it out.
Trust issues and emotional abuse are the fucking worst man believe me. I'm really sorry this all happened and that it hurt you so badly. Really hope that you can move forward and keep being Quinton. Quinton with weight lifted off his shoulders, but Quinton nonetheless.
I've always enjoyed just hearing you talk and rant about the most random things. It really hurts to now hear your voice, so full of sadness, stuttering, when you usually sound so cheerful.
Its a truly horrible Situation you went through, and you never deserved this. No one does. I'm so sorry this happened.
We all stand by you and support you Quinton!
Something I haven't seen many people talking about is the alcohol. Both discord messages they admitted to drinking/being drunk, in their video they say they're making the video to stop drunkenly arguing with people on Twitter while drinking what appears to be an alcoholic drink as their mannerisms get more exagerated and their speech suffers more and more. I hope this person gets the help and support they need
You handled this well, I think your initial response to her sounded a lot like a fawn response. In any case, it's not your fault what happened but it is a lesson learned in being firm and direct. I don't feel that you've anything to feel bad for. I think you navigated this situation to the best of your ability. She hit on you so hard, over and over and was so ungraceful and inappropriate in her behavior. I feel bad for her that she's so messy for all of this (I don't think anyone wants to be that way), but I feel worse for you. Nobody won here and you **suffered**.
This person is clearly unwell. You really got caught in a nightmare.
I'm not a licensed psychiatrist, but I feel like you don't have to be one to realize that expecting your employer to see your self-inflicted overwork as admirable/attractive, and then getting so mad at their justified rejection of your feelings that you spread manipulative half-truths to malign them in the eyes of the public for literal YEARS, might be a sign that you could benefit from some sort of psychiatric intervention.
I don't feel bad for her at all simply because of the fact she turned this into an opportunity to defame him and try and ruin his reputation instead of handling things like an adult and moving the hell on.
@@WhoWantsCake0 Not to mention how many times they bring up alcohol. It’s literally the first thing she says in the thread. I really hope that their support network gets them the help they need and they end their obsession.
i honestly don’t think there’s any way you can look bad in this situation. it sounds like she put you through something horrible.
Super refreshing to see somebody give a logical, down to earth, personal interpretation in response to the uncomfortable personal accusations they are dealing with.
Instead of doing an interpretive dance or busting out their ukulele.
Reminds me precisely why I chose to follow a content creator who would bother to do a 4 hour deep dive on a kids show which came out when I was already in my 20s: Because he actually cares
God, as someone who’s had online-only relationships suddenly try to get closer than I was comfortable with, I feel you. It’s such an awkward position to be in, and I was lucky enough to not to be *working* with those people in a professional way. I feel like your responses seem measured and careful, not aggressive in any way, and this person sounds unbalanced, and in need of some professional help to establish solid irl relationships on more forthright grounds. I don’t want to be an armchair analyst or anything, but I feel like this is the kind of behavior I’ve experienced from some troubled people in my own life. It’s a horrible situation to be in, and I hope you have some offline friends that make you feel safe and understood without the added complications of meeting strangers over the internet and having their personalities be suddenly revealed in a different light after unfortunate circumstances.
I agree that this person seemed unwell. Reacting so resentfully and with so much spite to someone simply turning down your romantic advances does not look like what a healthy and sound person would do.
@@WhoWantsCake0 I'd argue "unwell" is the wrong word even. Like, I have a bunch of brain weasels, but I'm... still friends with people who I had crushes on years ago who didn't reciprocate? Like it was sad for a bit but you don't have to have good mental health to not *attack people for not liking you romantically*. Having bad feelings is not a choice, sometimes a momentary loss of control happens, but once you're making and editing CoNtEnT about it for an extended period, you have made *choices*.
Damn, she really pulled a "nice guy" routine, didn't she
If this does not cease and desist, then you need to get a restraining order to prevent electronic harassment.
I KNEW that callout video was too snide to be truthful. I had to pause the INSTANT she went "oKAY FINEEE 🙄" in the first five seconds because that is NOT how you start a callout video. It made her look profoundly unserious and like it was all a bunch of petty schoolyard bullshit and she hadn't even said anything yet. Glad to know my gut feeling was right. Learning that it was SEXUAL HARASSMENT AND STALKING just made it worse
i didn’t know anything was going on and half expected you to whip out a ukulele 😭
all jokes aside im so sorry you’re going through this. this is definitely something most people would consider harassment and im sorry that you felt the need to even come on here to explain yourself at all.
I'm so proud to see you not apologize for yourself. I've been harassed and came out similarly. Just so you know, it is clear you regret this happen and you've grown, and I hope that you stay true to your convictions despite this.
"I tolerated so much bullshit just for a chance with you" That is incel behavior.
Nice guys finish last...
the way you responded to her first message is exactly how I've responded to every "friend" who wanted to vaguely confess to me. "yeah friend!! you're a good bro!! you my homie!! feel better!" like for real. sorry youve been having to deal with this
I am so incredibly sorry you have been forced to be in this position. I have always believed you to be a genuine person, with their head on their shoulders, humble and grounded, and I can't imagine what it's been like for you the last few years. Some people will do anything for their fifteen minutes of fame when their unhealthy parasocial relationship is backing them, and I'm sorry you were the person caught in their crosshairs.
It's clear to me that the whole situation makes you very uncomfortable, and I hope that now that people who have been asking for answers have them, we can work towards putting this in the past where it belongs.
You're one of the most genuine dudes on this platform, and unfortunately that makes it really easy for certain types of people to form extreme parasocial relationships with you and seek to execute on those feelings. I hope it gets better.
How many years do we need creators warning us not to form unhealthy parasocial relationships with them until we stop hearing these horror stories? Because I really don't want this to be a permanent result of the internet
@@WhoWantsCake0The good news is that they’re not a permanent result of the internet.
The bad news is that “parasocial relationships” were first described in the 1950s. Anyone that had a TV probably has at least a couple of parasocial relationships.
From the start she didn't want a professional relationship, she didn't saw becoming your editor as a job opportunity but as a way to get to you. It definitely was a fan just wanting to get close to their favorite youtuber and not a person wanting a job to further her career as a video editor, is disgusting how people can get so caught in their delusions and actually believe their fav youtuber will fall in love with them.
I have gained a lot of respect for this dude. He handled himself like a true gentleman and a thoughtful soul.
Edit: Anyone out there who's had mentally unstable people "like" them knows how much grace this dude handled this situation with.
Nah..Quinton is a hypocritical grifter
Ugh, I hope she eventually leaves you alone soon. What a stressful situation to deal with.
i don't have experience with this kind of thing from a youtuber context, but i and my friends have been in relationships with weird, cruel, manipulative people that have fucked us up for years. that kind of breach of trust really fucks with you in a way it's hard to talk about, and i totally understand you from that angle. this kind of person coming after me is a nightmare of mine, im so sorry you've had to deal with this.
For real, people like this do so much damage just because someone didn't like them back. Grow up, you are not entitled to anyone's love!
The twitter message you were talking about is actually in her video and its honestly damning with the critical context you've given. She literally starts the message off by saying since you gave her a rejection with a list of bullet points she'll give you here own list, making it absolutely 100% crystal clear that she's just mad that you rejected her.
The fact that this happened TWO YEARS AGO and she STILL is irked by this is really troubling behavior. Any normal person would just be sad for a bit and move on and probably look back and cringe a bit. They wouldn't feel the need to try to pull some cancel/metoo bs out of their ass over a complete nothing burger.
I literally had no idea this was happening.