Austin Allegro sleeper project with Honda Civic Type R K20 Turbo build - Part 11
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- Опубліковано 3 жов 2024
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CHAPTERS
0:00 Intro
#thelatebrakeshow #4k
I’m so damned existed for you Johnny, I really can’t wait to see this finished , the amount of work and the amazing detail that you are all putting into this build is outstanding, im a bit jealous, will a say little bit 😜 I’m actually jealous as hell , only in a good and loving way 😁, I’m at the age where I grew up with these things , we used to call them EGG ROLLS ,😂😂, not sure if that was just a Scottish thing , love how you are bringing this once probably hated car back to life as a sleeper , what a great idea , it’s crazy how something that i personally hated when I was young and now doing a complete 180 to now loving it , crazy as hell , and to do it in that same colour is priceless 🤣🤣, love your videos buddy , just not keen on you doing the electric ones , keep the great work going tho , sending love from Scotland ❤️🏴
Can’t wait to see this thing move under its own power, and the resulting huge grin on Jonny’s face.
Me neither. It's been a long time coming, but the progress is really solid now. Very chuffed to see it coming together with the quality I wanted. 👍🏽
@@TheLateBrakeShow Do you think it will be finished this year realistically or is it still years away?
I want to see Tiff shaking it down for haaaandling purposes
@TheLateBrakeShow these things to so long unless you can put 3 or 4 people on it constantly at a cost that is completely unrealistic and even then it would take over a year to build something that detailed and if it was rushed you would make mistakes about how things are laid out ect. It's a great build and love seeing the progress.
Probably be finished before Project Binky....
Badly fitted carpet trumpet over that shifter would be a standard British Leyland look
Add a huge quantity of rust holes for the complete package
Carpet Trumpet is my new band name.
@@AdamJRichardson looking at your photo, it really does but you.
Best wishes Carpet Trumpet.
@@AdamJRichardson I won't judge your preferences.
Your new band name provides a graphic indication of your sexual preferences.
That's 👍
@@AdamJRichardson dang it that means it can't be my pr0n name :(
That engine bay is a work of art, Adams skills are unreal.
Though... there seems to be some room behind the engine (1:28), maybe better weight distribution would have been possible by installing the engine a bit further back. Seems kinda nose heavy.
@@pffyespffgearbox dictates where the engine goes in relation to driveshafts. Unfortunately it’s just not possible to but it wherever you want 😊
@@FabCoUK Fair enough. Still, with a different engine-box combo or maybe by tilting engine back it could've been potentially a front-mid engine car, with better driving properties.
Can’t wait to see baby Binky on the road! Hope it’s not a wait till episode 1472. 😊😉😉
I'm amazed it's still being done. I wonder if the build was done by a "non UA-camr" it'd be done by now. Also it's no where near as complex as Binky.
Has anyone anywhere put this much time and effort (and money) into making an Allegro this cool? So looking forward to seeing and hearing it out on the road 🙌
This and retro rides.
Only the recent Retropower Allegro builds (influenced by this car 😘)
Could think of a better sleeper..the allegro is such an ugly motor..can’t understand the costs and time to make a fast allegro, even worse imagine doing a marina 🤢
@@ianwatson3315 The Marina coupé isn't a bad looking car IMO - when it came out (I remember it) it seemed pretty cool. Honestly! It's only the fact that it turned out to be such a terrible car that its styling is tarnished by association. It would make a fine sleeper! Total floorpan transplant obvs...
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YES !!! The Allegro Type R! Good to see it back on the channel.
Love the engineering going into this build. For anyone thinking of upgrading to the biggest brakes don’t forget to have clearance for wheel weights. Had clients forget about the addition thickness and wonder what the clicking noise is.
Use balance beads...
Shifter option 4
Honda CRZ shifter and cables. One of the cables needs shortening by about 10mm on the gearbox end but other than that, works a treat. That’s what have in my K20 Honda Jazz with fn2 gearbox.
I think you need one Recaro Pole Position trimmed in the same way as a track day seat. With some nice mustard coloured harnesses
Nice update,Jonny! That interior will look clean. One day it will be ready together with the Retropower Allegros and we'll see an Allegro trackday. 😉
It'll be an All-aggro track day.
My Aunty had a purple one, with white vinyl interior, back in the day.
Horrible thing.
I recall as a child getting the back of my thighs stuck to the front passenger seat when I got into it on a blazing hot sunny Summer's day, wearing shorts.
Can’t wait to see the sleeper in action but I’m equally enjoying the ‘journey’ of this build. Well done Adam and Jonny, great progress 😊
Man, that is so fuc*ing cool. Love the way everything runs parallel in the engine bay, and mega clean. And not swaying from your original vision. Love it. Also, Adam has got way more comfortable, engaging & informative in front of the camera.
18:41 I agree…just got my Mk2 GTI on the road with some hidden track bits…even with the sport seats spirited near track day driving is tossing me everywhere… can’t imagine those fine Allegro seats being much better.
I limited steering lock to save a wide wheel from connecting with a modern gear box. Makes no difference driving at speed. Only frustration is parking, but it is so entertaining that a few extra back and forths is worth it. Can’t wait to see this run…love this build.
Great to see you back at Fabco, I’ve,been following this and their wedge shaped project.
Gorgeous car, you must be so chuffed with how this is coming along. good luck with the rest of the build, looking forward to seeing it finished.
Really chuffed. After quite a few years of dormant activity, and then being misinformed about what to do (then companies promising to do things and never doing them) I can see true quality and progress that matches the original dream!
Amazing progress and what a ⭐️ Adam is. This is really inspirational 👏🥇
Thanks dude🤘🏻
Can’t wait to see this machine moving out in the wild .
This is an awesome project! Time to get a bucket seat covered in the same fabric as the allegro seats.
Damn was just thinking today we hadn't had an update on this for ages!! So awesome to see, hats off to you Jonny and Adam. Dream team.
I love that total sleeper look,
That’s gonna turn some heads.
But not too many!
Jonny I hope I see you out and about locally in our area. Really want to see this car. Bet it’s faster than my mums 1979 chocolate brown Allegro. Think it was a 1500cc😂. How my sister and me hated being picked up in the “crap car” as we called it. Fabco are bloody fab. ❤
Making good progress. Adams skills and attention to detail are amazing. Can't wait for this to be finished.
It’s great to hear an Exeter company getting a mention. Don’t forget HEL for braided hoses- brakes, oil and larger hydraulics.
The attention to details is mindbogglingly amazing! Beautiful work!
The Allegro badge really needs to be redone with a red capital R in it I think. AllegRo. Subtle detailing.😊
Looks great. The only concern is the very short length of the flexible part of the upper rad hose. It doesn't look like it will accommodate movement in the engine without transferring forces to the rad.
This is a build I am very excited about and you have no idea how much I've been looking forward to the updates on the progress. Keep them coming.
Great to hear!
It's all coming together nicely now. Well done Adam! This is one of those projects where I can't wait to see the end result. But I'll be equally sad when it's all over. Oh, and the seat fabric is absolutely perfect 👌🏻
Best Aggro episode for a while. Excited to see this progress!
Back in the early 90s, when I was doing my A levels, one of my classmates had an Allegro. Normally I'd have been jealous of anyone with their own car but... well... I was ambivalent. Until I heard that one of the wheels had just fallen off while he was driving it. Then there was no envy at all. Great choice for a sleeper! Very much enjoying these!
great series of videos. It's:
a) exactly how this sort of conversion should be done
b) really eye-opening how much effort goes into making something look original
c) clear now why people don't do this often
Super COOL... Adam is a platinum Chap!
Cannot get enough of this project - love the progress!
Cheers v much!
@@TheLateBrakeShower..... Progress.....!?!?
.... Just my tiresome, tedious, repetitive joke, Johnny..... nice to have SOMETHING to do on a Sunday afternoon.....!
Hi Jonny, great show, and I can't wait for the Allegro to be finished. One concern I noticed is the top hose looks great but no room for flex, no matter how well you tie in the top torque reaction mount for the engine it will always move a certain amount.
Nice one Jonny. It's always great to see the diriment parts of the jigsaw pieces being made. Fitting some of those pieces together certainly shows some progress. Many thanks for sharing. It may be some time away from an initial start but it's certainly looking a tad closer.
I'm 100% doing this to my rusty 240Z, great video, thank you
Absolutely love the thought process behind this. 😎
All I’d say is be wary of the clearance (or lack of it 😄).
My GT3 and previous ones have so little clearance if a decent sized stone finds its way in it jams and grinds a lovely groove into the barrel of the wheel. 🤦🏼♂️😄
I dare say if it hit that transfer pipe it could split it. I’m sure it will be massaged a bit further though, as Adam says.
Top work anyway. Super attention to detail. Exactly the type of details I’d want on a build. Even the non bucket seats. But yes… you’re definitely falling out of those on track. 😂
Looking forward to the next episode. 👍🏻
PS. That T7 gear is making me want a Honda engine to put in something. Lovely stuff. 😎
To get 15" wheels on my EP3 Type R I had to sand the calipers slightly. People were wrong about it not being possible.
I vote keep the wheels black. Awesome progress, great update. Loving this build 👍🏻
I would LUV to see what Jonny would create with a HUGE budget! This build is very cool and is not breaking his bank (I hope!)
I think the budget for this build is already huuuge
Look at the Allegro projects over at RetroPowerCars. Those are pretty much open cheque book projects.
@@ThibauTMAgree, just had some jobs done on my Westfield. New cam belt and water pump plus some investigative/ECU work due to an overheating issue. All now sorted and it’s running great but that was £1800 gone very quickly. New stainless exhaust was £750 so it quickly mounts up. The kind of custom work being done here must be costing a fortune but it’s great to watch 👍
Well, I'd say when it's finished it will be a 70k car, so that's a pretty big budget! 😂
Awesome project this, the engineering behind it is next level fellas
Seeing this cars paint detailed for the first time was when I really became intrigued about seeing the finished article. The engine bay is looking like a beautiful bit of craft. It’s my mission to come see this car when you hopefully want to show it off one day.
Thank you v much. We hope to display it and drive it in many places in 2025
Looking forward to it
Thank You Johnny & Adam.. Coming along nicely.
Cad has come a log way since I started 3d printing is great I sketch of paper draw 3d then test using a computer ( FEA CFD ) then modify, 3d print test and then make it has saved me so much time and money ( cockups ) Freecad and Kicad ( electrical) all free and very powerful Currently I wring up a bike drew the frame in cad ( 3d exported to 2d ) then positioned the components on the drawing wire length then designed the loom in Kicad wire size etc parts ordered love Cad a scanner is the next purchase !
This has become as exciting to watch as project Binky from BOM.
It will be exciting to see the result of the build 😎👍🏻
It'll be fun when it's done... This feels like a restomod build dragging its' heels through axle grease!
Will be interesting to see how it handles on the track, its a real work of art, looking forward to seeing it finished.
Pressing the bell against the knuckle!
The only build that can compare is of the Bad Obsession Motorsport Mini. Amazing job Johny!
this is shaping up to be absolutely insane. So excited to see the end result but enjoying the process
Bloody hell Jonny. This thing is absolutely next level. Hate to think how much money has gone into it. I hope it’s finally on the road soon.
Beautiful and methodical work there 👍
Can’t wait to see this move! Love the concept idea of this car. It just works
I've been hooked on this project from day 1 and I've been on your case a few times for more content etc on it and I'm sure there's many in comments saying, "Come on Jonny, we want to see it ripping." Infact as typing, I'm thinking in my head, my last project, a Jensen took me 9 years to do. LOL
It's really starting to come together now. 👍
The madness continues! What a car this will be.
Great progress. Can’t wait to see it on the road.
Good work! 👍 It's been interesting to compare your project to the Honda/Allegro builds going on over at Retropower. Similar general specifications, but two very different approaches. I have to say your car is much more in my budget range. 🙂
I've run into a lot of similar things building my NA Miata. The further you go down the path of pushing the limits of what people have done, you find that you need to create your own solutions (often starting with a bit of carboard or a 3D print).
Jonny epic build. Been following since the start
Hopefully the square steering wheel will give you a bit more knee to wheel room . The mock up wheel looks tight to your legs unless you can lower the seat height
Adam and local expertise business helping this build fulfil your dream build.
What a sleeper this is going to be
I hope you cover the gaps around the fan brackets it's incredible the difference in cooling with a full shroud, sucks the cool air directly through the rad rather than all over the place
I'd genuinely like to see just a *slightly* wider track on it, a touch of flare in the arches. Nothing crazy, just a whisper, a suggestion of something. It'd also give you a bit more leeway with the calipers and tyres.
Just a suggestion. I flipping love these vids.
Near Project Binky level packaging there! Looks like there’s room for a heat shield around the cone (with a rubber seal to the bonnet), and some ducting.
A great project. My own Allegro has been sawn in half and will have a metre long extension welded in - tricky enough but I’m confident that it will make a lovely little limo.
It will mostly likely be painted in a non-metallic black.
Hopefully it will be the most distinguished looking Ausin Allegroom on the road.
Love it, Adam is a genius, can’t wait to see it burn a boy racer at the lights. 😂😂😂
i HATE Allegro;s but i LOVE this project, been following since the start and can;t wait for updates! The quality, vision and execution are awesome....well done!
Those seats are giving me 90s London transport vibes.
Id love to see your bucket seats with the same check pattern and brown surround that would look really trick 👌
This is one of my favorite builds. Makes me want to do something similar with the car my mom had when I was a kid: An orange '78 Mazda GLC wagon with plaid interior.
Thank you. You totally need to do a Mazda Mom spec project.
Hell yes… the details, so incredibly cleanly built. Wow. Go CarPerv!
You need a custom bus fabric trimmed Sparco seat for track adventures.
I had a Vauxhall Firenza I shoehorned a Rover V8 3.5l into. That shifter up the road quite well,, and it looks like this is going too also. Nice fab work 2x👍
Can't believe you never fitted it with the almighty 2.2 Prelude Vtec. Austin prelegro. Believe yeah ❤
This is amazing, can’t wait for next and see this in person!!
Son of Binky right here, with even more bracketry!
Did that thing ever get finished?
I got bored with it a few years ago
@@procatprocat9647 Binky is still a work in progress. The boys have been busy (if that's the correct expression) with the dash, switchgear and other bits and bobs over the past year. Unfortunately, other than an occasional update through Patreon there does not seem to happen much at BOM central. No update on the Escargot, the MG or any of the other projects that are in the pipeline. To be continued... 🤞
That's gonna be such a cool car when finished. Love it!
You've gotta love the way Johnny says, ''I've changed the engine and I've changed blah blah".. 😅😂😂 He made the decision to have things changed😂😂😂 It's going to be cool when ADAM finishes it...
If you need power steering, check out the electric (EPS) used in Fiats. It sits in the column just below the switchgear. No engine bay compromise. The 169 Panda is similar size to the Allegro so Panda EPS should do the job.
Heater blower could be given a fan speed control knob. Just put it somewhere suitably Allegro.
Love the concept of this sleeper. Can’t wait to see it done with all the details coming together!
Couldn’t you fabricate a spacer to lift the original centre console up enough to clear the shifter?
Honda do make a fantastic gear shift feel, even on a lowly jazz it's still a joy
I do like the fax it's just two guys having a chat you do that well
This is probably old news but a Kiwi has just put a nissan leaf ev motor in an allegro - Kiwi EV adventures. Allegros are flavour of the month on youtube.
This is a fascinating project/process to watch.
Good work on dry build and then paint. Make sure after dry build you give it some serious shakedown driving then once all the niggles are sorted tear it down and paint. Premature paint is danaged paint.
Dry build will hopefully be done this year, then we can rebuild painted before spring. Or sooner!
@@TheLateBrakeShow greqt just make sure you thrash it before the paint tear down. Something will give you trouble. Find it before paint.
If the pipe really is as close as it looks, you may be within the range of fouling with different wheel tolerances. I found that with my sleeper - I *had* to retain the original 13" wheels but wanted to upgrade the brakes. I got sufficient clearance with the first wheel I tried, but not all the wheels!
In the end I had to take a flap disc to the brake caliper, which would be a real shame in your case!
Jonny! Just get recaros in matching upholstery! 🤣 You're going to be on the passenger door the first time you turn right!
This thing just keeps getting cooler & cooler.
+1 for silver wheels and balloony tyres 👍
Looking good, some Cobra RS (RSRs are a bit on the "tight" side, I have a set in a car) trimmed in suitable brown vinyl with the super bright fabric inserts....I'm imagining the Recaro strobe style material used in the old school JDM stuff but with the Austin text & flying L logo...that would be epic. There are some decent aftermarket shifters out there too, I bought a copycat one from eBay & swapped all of the bearings, fixings & with a few machiing tweaks it's been bang on. Very cost effective.
I like how there's "In comparison to the original allegro the gear shift is really short". Yeah, although maybe it's not the worst part of an allegro, I doubt anybody's ever used an allegro as any kind of benchmark for sweet shifting excellence!
Over 23k views, yet only 2.5k likes. That's a shame, people obviously watch the channel because they like it, so why not take one second to click the like button? Help boost the channel. Moan over, got to say i am amzed at how well this is coming together, so much thought going into every detail. Fantastic work Alan, it's been great watching this build come together.
Being a London boy, I do recognise and love the district moquette design on the seats.
Gettting closer! Also, the caliper was mounted upside down.
I dread to think what this must be costing. The quality of the work being done is incredible and I love the project.... This must be the most expensive Alegro ( maybe even Austin too) in the world.
When this is finished it’s going to be a hoot! 😂
What an amazing bunch of guys, it's looking awesome 😎
Cheers v much 🤘🏽
Nice running into you at Le Mans, keep up the great content!
I get the feeling this thing is going to be a lot of fun!
Absolutely Fabulous Job so far