Building an Electric Bike
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- Опубліковано 20 кві 2020
- Building an electric bike isn't easy, especially when using unconventional electronics, such as a drone motor. After 3 years of development, I have a bike that I'm finally happy with... but who knows what I'll change next...
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That transition at 8:03 made me very happy
You'd love Clickspring... For all reasons but especially that.
:Thumbs_Up:
I thought I was the only one that got a mini climax at that point...
Suryan Isaac best happily comment ever 😫👌
Suryan Isaac rewatched that clip like seven times
"This is my homemade electric bike. It isn't powered by a battery, instead a turbine fed by a pressurized tank creates the electricity needed to turn the motor. The fuel efficiency is pretty good as I only have to get off and pump the tank full with a bicycle pump every 30 feet."
Maybe you could mount the pump to a flywheel, so you can use the pedals to pump the pressure tank.
@@kalleguld well that sounds like a regular pedal powered bicycle
@@kalleguld big brain moves
@@kalleguld ingenious!
The closest you can get to this is using liquid nitrogen engines.They are real and the energy density is about the same (terrible) magnitude as Li-ion.
Mate, you are probably not reading comments a year after the video is realised ... but for real, what you are doing is inspiring. You provide a lot of honest knowledge to the public, and on top of it share the fruits of your journey. You upload the results, the final CAD files, the methods and the means. Hats off to you, sir. May your channel be as plentiful as your great work.
yes thank you to him, i am building one right now
@@bhx7527 how did it go? did you succeed?
This was absolutely fascinating!!!!
I LOVE all of the thought and consideration that went into your various iterations of the project.
Everyone: *burns motor*, buys new motor. Tom: *burns motor*, rewinds motor...
You have to rewind those cheap motors anyway with thicker wire for efficiency, and to modulate kV, dependent on the windings-number.
True Russian
@@cyber_robot889 what a lad
@@drone51 I think you meant to say; what a comrade;) lolz comlad!
@@pvs1681 HAHA yes my comrade :)
He is the man with a lot of passion and money.
And a usefull brain and not a waste off skull space.
That being said, i don’t see any use for the pedals anymore.......
a lott
Passion not money, its the patreons.
Ok
5
It sounds like R2D2 screaming. This is amazing
Interesting watching you work thru all the unforeseen issues as you went along. Don't know anything about companies who build electric bikes for sale, but if TOM decided to go into the business, they might find they will eventually have some stiff competition in the future.
8:01 that edit was absolutely amazing
Ikr its simple but cool
I went to type this exact thing but thought I’d check the comments first. Such a slick edit!
Bro I didn't even notice
It was okay...
"I Know most of you are engineers"
Sir, i'm a useless 20 year old.
I wouldn't say you're useless ! You're at the beginning of many challenges. You have many options and choises. Choose wisely, do the right thing !
Your youtube channel shows evidence to the contrary, You are quite a skilled engineer of digital vehicles!
*_useless 19yo noises_*
Hahahaha! I'm a useless 23 year old!
Bah, think of yourself as a battery looking for it’s pack.
I love Vedder’s speed controller project, it was a big inspiration for my university capstone project. Thanks for sharing your whole process, failures and successes alike :)
This is one of the most useful DIY electric vehicle videos I've ever seen. The explanation of gear ratios and kV rating was very helpful.
Have you considered adding a gearbox, so that you could possibly have decent acceleration as well as maximum speed?
That would be awesome :D
Or you know..... you could make a pedal bike and not get lazy with a electric bike. Were all gonna become fat
Much more fun to just strap a 2 stroke engine to a bike and it makes a much cooler sound
@@harrisonsmetana2506 yesssss
i think modified gearbox of a bike using a drive shaft will be nice..just a imagination
8:04 wow, that was smooth
yup
Yes, I am an engineer, but only watch this kind of content when relaxing. Do plenty of engineering any other time... Thanks or your effort though!!
dude this is amazing. i wish i had the tools and material to make something like that
At 6:59 Tom said, “a lot has changed since then. Suddenly and seamlessly, I am seeing a fat wheel bicycle sliding sideways. The rider isn’t Tom. Took me a second to realize that UA-cam had transitioned me to an ad for a bicycle.
The switchbike ad?
*laughs in* youtube premium
@@thecaptainnoodles AdBlock for the true winners.
same thing happened for me lol
*laughs in* ABP plugin
"Come over"
"I can't I'm busy babe"
"No one's home..."
3:07
Golden Boy at its best
@@zacharyj6465 maybe they are out smoking drugs with a midget
"Goes to her home"
"There's really no one there"
I usually don't laugh at these but this one got me
@@SkvalaGaming well, she said no one's home...
Fascinating discussion and demonstration. By the way, Harley Davidson uses the two belt system, with the motor driving the tranny, and the second belt driving the rear wheel. I wonder if it's to make up for an underpowered motor.
Harley designed the 2 belt system to reduce sideways torque and its a lot quieter. A 1200cc Harley has 85 horsepower and up. The 125 cubic inch engine produces 130hp. Similar hp to a Toyota Prius. Custom engines can be 2.5 liter or 3 liter beasts. Also a large rear sprocket increases power too. For a 1000 pound bike they haul arse!
This man researched the whole E-bike building by R&D it many times.
I would love to see you making proper electric motocross bike in collaboration with colinfurze, you in charge of making battery and electronics and he making the frame.
Love a bit of Furze. I saw this and thought Colin could do something like this, then wondered if he had as I haven't watched all his videos yet!
that would be an amazing collab
Mira, yo tengo el motor central Aston Rider y lo vengo usando bastante bien. Lo he cambiado de mi rodado 16 plegable a mtb 26 y ahora en una 24. El kit lo cambia mi marido en unos instantes apretando un tornillo viene todo conectado y la pantalla tiene cargador de celular
u mean making the flame
colinfurze is an absolute douche and not to be taken seriously. He is aimed at a younger audience.
Sounds like an engineer, always trying to reinvent the wheel.
And he have a lot of Money that he should use in another way...
@@andreabena7421 He should use his money to have fun, as I see he is having fun, so money well spent!
@@andreabena7421 have you ever heard of a hobby
He reinvented stupidity, he said it himself.. real talk
An engineer would consider the wasted energy converting electric to mechanical force.
Your intellligence facinates me immensly. I can't stop watching your videos.
I could see how this would create a huge amount of gratification. Great job.
3:06 : haha, perfect timing with the jet aircraft going overhead.
The editing in this video is incredible, particularly the transitions. You also did a great job of packing a ton of clear, concise narrative along with explanations and data into just 14 minutes.
i think the next best idea for the new version would be to have a functional gearbox type arrangement, therefor you can have lots of torque down low but still a fast max speed. Whether is is through a servo that can mesh a gear to the belt, I would love to see how you would do it.
I love how you casually speak about, I just redesigned this and built one of these as if it's simple. Your a very talented guy Tom.
Now this is some hardcore prototyping.
" MO POWA BABY!!" - James Pumphrey
Donut gang
This is everything YOU need to get up to speed on electrical bikes!
why do people like electric bikes?
Im nolan and this is wheelhouse
Why did I read that in his voice?
This guy is setting new goals for DIY projects!
8:30 such a clean cheat, that is something i would do lol "if it works - it works!"
Amazing engineering work Tom! Love the dedication to the project and your constant strive for optimizing performance! Just don't forget about safety, your batteries are aimed directly at your valuables!
How to make freewheel? Much needed for this project!
I actually like the sound of your belted setup vs. the hub motor. Gives it a bit of character.
Tom, you're really gifted. You'll do well in life! Keep it up pall!
you have learned a lot by doing „mistakes“ - While my long time in sports car industrie I really liked to have engineers like you around me - which burn for what they do. Talented and inspiring !
Probably one of the most interesting UA-cam channels out there
2:17 "And this began my quest for [mo powah babeh]"
Pop up down head lights
Garrett El Programador Ineptos donut
@@subtopewds6964 R-R-R-R-REMIX! Roll up up and down headlights!
I literally said that in my head! LIGHTNING! LIGHTNING! LIGHTNING!
Slap a ls on it
Very well done, i like that you included the failures, well i believe failures are the only way you can learn the best ways that work. I am impressed and certainly think you have all the right stuff to succeed in any project you choose. A lot of what i see you working with can be "reverse engineered" into other fields, i wish we were neighbors i need your expertise to combine with my wind turbine projects to make power like nobody else can.
Seen this before, loved watching it from the start again. Amazing the work that you've done and with a 3d printer
This dude could have just bought a nice electric motorcycle but looks like he had fun doing this
true but he did at home, what some companies spend 1000s on and hire a $100,000/yr engineer. Sure he spent more money than it would be to just buy a kit or an electric motorcycle but what he did is actually amazing, for just using Google and his own, non professional engineering mind.
Now, let's try it with a vespa, and a starter motor. ^_^
Plus electric motorcycles are pretty expensive already.
It's about chasing your dream
He did well!
i did not seen this much passionate and dedicated person in my entire life..he never gives up..!
I have not seen? Or I did not see.
Thats because he is an engineer.
Wow! Your problem solving skills are impressive and diverse! Well done!
Sensational, thanks for sharing - clearly a lot of time spent improving, and we all get to benefit from your past issues!
What a great transition at 8:00 :D
Awesome video as always!
xD
I built a display similar to yours, which keeps track of amps and volts (watts) vs time, so the battery charge can be tracked. It also allows converting the controller from a speed control throttle to a watts controlled throttle, as you mentioned you did. I like that, it is more motorcycle like and you can then set preset power assist wattage amounts- speed might change but watts can stay at the preset level. My motor is a Bafang BBSHD with the internal controller.
Oh God what a technical mind and work you do. Great job indeed. There is no comparison event to understand your projects. I am feeling empty of my upper portion.😂😂
4:31 The bench looks like it has a melted bicycle tire for the armrest.
Yeah, I thought that was some sort of piece from a failure at first...
I thought it was the belt that powered the bike.
Think inside the box you dummy
@@trexmidnite ???
Hi guys I finally got my degree, in mechanical engineering and I've been watching this channel since I started college. I just want to Thankyou for always inspiring and fueling my passion on engineering and without you guys the engineering UA-camr. I would've given up quite a long time ago.
ken yamagami Congratulations!!! That’s an incredible achievement :^>
great how you got the theory stuff done! now you can watch youtube how to actually build things :D
How to make freewheel? Much needed for this project!
I study for a programmer but now I regret about it and wanna be mechanical engineer. I dont want to study as bachelor again and wish to proceed as master in engineering
Thanks for this research, your work and your videos
11:11 “super quiet” sounds like a frickin car passed by lol
"I know most of you are engineers" im 14 but probably will be so come back in like 7 years
waaaaaaaaaat, 1M view in 4 days Tom!!!! ok simple, it is a cool video mate! watched it 2 times😉
@@yolandashikers3666 same
He says many of you, not most of you
Probably more like 8 or 9 years, most engineering degrees take 5 years unless you have the option to take calculus in highschool, and that is assuming you don't take a semester off for a co-op.
@@yolandashikers3666 5%
Tom. Thanks for this highly useful video. It progressed quickly but not too fast. You explained key points without unnecessary detail. It was perfect! - Steve, Utah USA
well done. A good understanding of electric engineering and hands on skills simultaneously
Superb job man!!!! A real pleasure to watch your vids!
Sounds like a happy R2-D2 rolling downhill
C'mon Tom; Metric!!!
Yes please! 🍄
30 mph is 50 km/h. If you learn to convert the two it makes life much easier than complaining 😂
El Emeno Pea 90% of the world uses metric.
it would actually be more helpful if he used metric, than some wacky numbers that dont make sense lmao
'how many yards in a mile?'
'1760'
Metric is the one and only
I wholeheartedly agree! The UK uses metric for nearly everything except distance. I think that the golden rule should be "Don't mix your units. Metric OR imperial, not both!!! This is the sort of lunacy that causes accidents like the Shuttle Challenger disaster. Better still... just use metric.
Not boring! Good spec coverage and some really great engineering skills and tips! Cheers . . . 🧐🤓
I’m attempting to build a mountain bike wheelchair for my buddy... it’s a lot of math. I like the idea of an electronic motor to assist with the uphill and rough terrains. This was very informative and cheaper for me to watch your trial and errors lol. Thanks
13:22
What system is this you're using?
I'm interested in getting my hands on it.
I think you are spot on with this video, as well as your assumptions on your audience. I’ve gasping at name brand electric bike prices and what you get for the money. Of course there is trial and error + hundreds of hours work involved in doing this DIY, but when it’s a hobby, all that matters is the enjoyment (and cost of parts). The idea that I can convert my existing bike to electric is tempting in so many ways, and your videos have shown that while it is a lot of work, it’s not black magic.
Check out the BBSHD series if you want something of a kit-form diy thing. I have the weaker, older bbs02 and it's a trooper. over 3k miles so far. i've seen people put 10k miles on them with only the sprocket wearing out. The HD versions are beefed up in every regard.
@@cho4d I'll check it out, thanks for the tip!
it's very rarely my "DAD" will be glued to any video i show him on You-Tube... i recently bought an E-bike! and it was absolutely the best money iv ever spent in my life."EVER" I'd recommend one to anyone. but my god... 'TOM MY MAN" THAT WAS AWESOME & LORD COULD IT MOVE.. : ) when i think of my 30kg bike with its 20inch wheels running out of battery, & im still 5 miles away from home.. it make's me want one like that. IV SAW LOAD'S OF 'MAKE YOUR OWN EBIKE VIDEOS BUT... THIS WIN'S : ) HANDS DOWN.... PURE CLASS! : )
The guy deserves every view
This would be a perfect diy or buy
"Great Scott!" refference?
Hey Tom, absolutly great video! That could be a start up for selling pre-installed parts ;-). Hopefully more to come, Greetings, Marc
Education pays off... that's what I see in this video. Great job and knowledge
👏👏👏 Felicitări pentru ceea ce faci cu atâta plăcere și dăruire la vârsta ta
👏👏👏 Mulțumesc din suflet dragă Tom. Nu că nu mi-ar face plăcere un premiu din partea ta, dar exista atâtea persoane în lume care ar merita acest premiu. Te rog dă-l, fără sa te superi, acelor persoane. 🙏🙏🙏 Dumnezeu sa-ți dea sănătate.
12:48 : Let's call that Stanton's Equation
Nice
@@dharmayudha3401 is it more like theorem or law?
Stanton equation would be a good option.
yes stantons law
works only for 26-inch-wheels...
Hi Tom, Really nice video recab of your learning curve during the build of your own ideal electric bike. I can imagine your feeling of gratification when you had reached your desired result after 3 years of work. It's not about having an electric bike, then you just buy one, its about knowing how everything works and creating your own optimal design. Pushing your own knowledge to get the most out of every mechanical and electrical detail for optimal results. People who even take time to create a video about there years of work and contribute by sharing their knowledge deserve at least a thumb up. Again, impressive piece of engineering Tom, thanks for sharing. Not one second of my time was wasted watching this video.
Yep. This is why I watch this video for the 11th time. There is no e-bike without some drawbacks I don't want. I'm investigating building a bike that can take cargo and possibly be charged with solar, that can be locked in a way that no one would like to put the effort into stealing it.
For the filter on the motor there are hobby filters for RC cars. That material would work great
Amazing work Tom! Thanks!
Thank you for sharing all the details, including failures - so instructive!
This video has given me a ton of inspiration and ideas. One of which being using the crank as the speed controller, either by using an encoder directly, or passing the crank through a back sprung differential with a potentiometer mounted to the differential bell. The latter would allow for you to use another pot on the handlebars to set the max amount of electric assist, and your additional pedal pressure while cycling normally would propel you forward electrically. This way you would still have to cycle for the sake of working out, but you would get additional range and some help up the steepest hills. This could motivate some to get on the bicycle seat more often.
How to make freewheel? Much needed for this project!
That is awesome! You have a bright future, Tom. Love your Videos
Thanks for the EDUCATION on DIY e bike building. Got some ideas from your explainations!
This is amazing. You're really passionate and I wish you find sponsor to start up your own e-bike company.
What they've done isn't legal on UK roads. Fine for a UA-cam video, not commercially viable.
Its because of too much power/speed or?
“What’s powering your bike?” “Two cans of beans. It’s gas powered.”
Great project, i hope someday develope something like that.
Thank's for share it !!
Thank you for what you are doing, and what you have found. I'm helpless, your know-how is impressive. I really only need to maintain 20M.P.H. on the side walk when I ride.
8:04 that transition was smoother than Luther Vandross
Fun fact: "liitokala" means "flying fish" in Finnish.
How do you pronounce it? 😂
@@sooperbear I won't attempt to type it out phonetically, instead I suggest you copy it into Google Translate and click the speaker to hear it. It's quite accurate.
Tuomas Hämäläinen lol how in the world do you spell your last name?? 🤣😂😂
Sorry. PRONOUNCE lol
Your the type of person I wish I knew in real life
Thank you for this video..It was very useful and nice illustration about the whole things
I just starting seeing vid's w multiple motor's. Usually 775's and it seemed like there could be some problems there. Your application answered that!
14:00 is such a good feeling
Damn, you’ve put in a lot of revisions!
Sometimes "engineering" is admitting that that thing you did was stupid and fixing it.
Over and over and over again.
Failure is always an option.
Awsome vid! Cant wait to see some more projects!
you have serious skills.. this is maybe the best electric bike on UA-cam
A word of warning, I've heard of people in the uk getting pulled over by the police. If your ebike is over 250w you can get done for no insurance, no road tax, no Mot, driving a vehicle with no registration and depending on if you have a motorcycle licence etc.
Otherwise this is frikkin awesome.
500nickp I am sure @tom was responsible only testing on private land with the land owners permission.
500nickp meanwhile in the US people jerry rig weedwhacker motors onto their bicycles with no penalty 😂
What 500nickp says is true. Max 250w and can only assist and not be throttle controlled. Otherwise it is classed a motorbike with all the legal implications. Which is a big shame!
Not only that, your creation will be sent to the crusher. What would be much worse is if some idiot inspired by your video mows down a pedestrian in town or whatever, as people don't expect bicycles to be that fast. You should pull the video and work on something legal.
9:43 gotta love rapid engineering in photoshop
Yo I've seen your first build...it was inspiring....came across this video and WOW awesome! I got to see all up till now. Keep it up!
Great detailed vid. Thank you
Hi Tom Awesome Engineering skills,
I was wondering what kind of CNC router you have? and how did you cut out most of the motor bracket profiles, did you make it yourself or purchase?, I am working on some modifications to e bike conversion myself and will need to make some brackets for support.
Any info would be really appreciated. Thanks, are really talented and keep up the great inspiring work ! :)
Hey Tom,
I would love to build an ebike like this! Could you make the files public?
Thingiverse?
Hope you never fall off at those speeds, great work.
i would like to get a bike like this oh look how cool that is
Really good! I admire your tenacious, constantly changing/improving/refining your design - true development engineering. I don't know why you don't go on Dragons Den, patent all this, or work collaboratively with Dyson!
it's called Bafang Motor. Or from a series of BBSHD Mid Drives. He's trying to re invent the wheel. Motor at frame, small gear. motor on wheel, big gear.
In my opinion your the tony stark of electric bikes. GOOD JOB! thanks for the brief tuts and inclusive data on mount designs and formulas.
Tom Stanton, your channel is awesome. I love your projects. - Arthur 8 years old (my son)
Wonderful info. Thank you!
As an engineer this was very cool and inspiring, definitely worth subscribing. Keep up the good work young man and become a great inspiration for today's younger generation.