Has Lexus Gone Crazy? A 5.0L V8 In A Compact Sedan? 2022 Lexus IS 500
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- Опубліковано 9 вер 2021
- In a "hold my beer" moment, Lexus decided to take a high-revving naturally aspirated V8 engine to a turbocharged 6-cylinder gunfight. The result is almost predictable, the V8 sounds like sex, ia a hair slower, but has so much character that most folks just won't care. If you're shopping for an S4, M340i, or C63 AMG, you need to stop by the Lexus dealer to hear an IS 500 F-Sport Performance first...
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This car is truly something special and I'm glad Lexus made it.
Truly something special. Specially ugly
@@PerformanceY If Toyota doesn't make ugly cars, how would other car companies stay in business???...............LOL
@@PerformanceY Ugly? Far prettier than you I'm sure
@@James-mw7zv
James are you kidding me? Im handsome 😌
@@PerformanceY Go buy your mid-life Porsche and lose control. Better yet torture everyone on the road by buying a generic M3 that looks like a chunk of plastic rolling down the highway. Jeremy Clarkson hit the nail on the head by mentioning M3 drivers not having any friends or taste.
I love how Alex keeps stuffing himself in trunks in increasingly more awkward ways all while never missing a beat with his review.
Displaying trunk comfort is his Forte
This little trunk still gets 8 out of 10 oh my lordie
I would happily pay the extra money to have the vehicle last 3 times as long as everything esle in this class. I would imagine this will retain a much higher percentage of its value over time.
and if it was electric....bulletproof.
And also for the NA V8
@@laloajuria4678 I'm guessing that you never owned an EV by that statement
maybe compare this to dodge charger V8, but I am afraid that dodge will fall apart in a few years.
@@skellington2000 Agree on the transmission, but the Dodge interiors are not good, chassis is even older than the IS (Lexus has done some work to increase rigidity) and lack the Lexus residuals. I do like the low rev pushrod V8s, but the Lexus V8 is very cool sounding to me (subjective I know).
The best review, comparison, analysis that I ever saw. This person did a way better job then the other 3 professional reviewers; also, definitely much intellectual than many other UA-camrs.
The real question is how does Mr. Alex talk nonstop while driving crazy on those curvy mountain roads!!
I will say this about the IS. We have a 2010 IS 250 and it still going strong at 160k miles, it did have issues with a fuel sensor and it cost us about 1k to replace it, but that’s been it so far.
Your IS will last another 15 years easily.
I love it's v6 from only 2.5l
From what I understood there’s a base model version of this car that starts at $56k and there’s the premium package which is what Alex tested out at $62k and the Launch edition at $67k
Alex, another great review! Thank you! But.. it doesnt start at $61K; that's for the Premium trim, not the base which is at $57,500 at base with destination...
Yup, that's what my dealer told me
$67k for launch edition. I wonder if many base cars will be sold.
GOOD luck finding one for base MSRP.
"no more boring cars!" - Akio Toyoda
@japanwatchconnection ya thats why everyone is crying for the s2000 right?
This is an actual revue, unlike the Motor Trend "revue" that I watched previously! Thank you Alex...
Well, knowing that Alex is always displaying a song title that relates to the car he’s reviewing, no it’s never too late for a 5.0 V8 in a compact sedan.
The problem is often when you wedge a big engine into a small car you have to pull it out to do major maintenance making it very expensive
@@rickjohansson4257 thankfully major maintenance on a Lexus/Toyota is quite rare from a historical standpoint.
The IS500 starts at $56,000 Alex... at least I think so
Edit, yes it’s $56,500. Plus shipping it’s $57,575 according to Car And Driver. Yes, that’s at least $1,700 more than most competitors, but damn, you gotta be crazy to not eat that cost. The car will undoubtedly hold its value more than all of its competitors, and has the most character. The thought of someone straight piping this car sends chills down my spine.
If you are willing to spend 61k and change for the shake of a naturally aspirated old fashioned V8 fuel economy is not a priority. Lexus has a very strong hand in the automotive poker game with this one.
yup, a WORM car.
At the same time if you can spend $61k on a new car, you'll likely get another car within 5 years so the reliability maters less tbh.
he does not like toyota.
The car starts at 56,500 he got the price wrong
That’s exactly right. I could care less if it gets 18mpg- I don’t think that’s all that bad. This car will deliver smiles.
i'm so happy that toyota / lexus has the spare cash lying around to pursue these types of things...
Pursue? See the older Lexus, they're all v8s
And here come the dealer markups...
"And here come the dealer markups..."
I wonder how much you know about cars before learning what "Dealer Mark up" meant.
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Excellent report. I have a 2007 IS 250 AWD and a 2015 RC 350 AWD. You make me want to go out and buy this model. Great job.
Alex, you can turn the ASC off. If you turn the dial all the way down, it'll stop, but if you keep pushing it will "click" into an off position. Took me a few weeks to realize that on my IS 350.
Also, with respect to the cabin noise, the IS 350 F Sport and IS 500 have the same summer tires. Not sure what's different with regards to noise.
Finally, with the pricing... The "base" IS 500 is actually $56,500.
Sofyan at Redline Reviews says there is a IS500 starting at $56500
The Premium Package models are in the $62k range
Nice review as usual!
Such a fantastic, passionate Shogun Warrior of a sports sedan. Takes balls to make this today, and I thank Lexus for doing so. ;)
I think this is one of my favorite currently outdated cars
Amazing job on this review. Alex and Savagegeese are the best by far.
Excellent review
Thanks Alex!! Just watched this review again, think I have to buy one! V8 !! Japanese V8, and not going to the dealer for stupid check engine errors and German car dealership bills, is priceless
I'll take that spare tire any day.
Hard to believe its been 11 years since Lexus debuted that instrument cluster.
The GX just got rid of one used since 2006.
Well, this is the revised version of the instrument cluster that first appeared on the LC 500.
That outdated Lexus instrument cluster is great. It lights up and works when you drive. I had a Mercedes CLA250 with the new instrument cluster. It would black out completely when driving every once a while.
Just got one of these. Great review but ASC is not fake engine noise. It lets you tune the engine noise in the cabins. Who needs fake engine noise in a v8 lol
I love 360 view camera and got so many surprised compliments when people saw it in my car. My wife demands all her future cars should have it. But it seems very few UA-cam car reviewers mention or demo that camera nowadays.
The Lexus steering wheel has got to be my favorite out of all the new cars.
As always, tasty first look.
Hopefully when you get one for review, you can see if it’s really worth the $61K.
The Mark Levinson 17speaker system is an option on the IS-500, not a standard because I have seen one without it. Please note that.
When it comes to the BMW and the Benz, Adding the same level of features will bring it past $65,000. I think this is priced just about right. Plus you’ll make up the difference in less maintenance costs
Yes, and the Audi S4 would be pretty close as well. Really need to compare "as equipped" prices, especially when dealing with the Germans. Price vs a loaded G70 is another story... but that V8 makes such sweet music.
It lacks too many features to justify $60+K, others like the G70 and TLX give you more for your money (and yes, I mean the standard IS 300 as well).
dont forget resale value.
Not just less maintenance cost. Your car will spend less time at mechanic due to less problems. Less headache especially for a woman.
I don't know if you guy owned Lexus vehicles, but I can tell you guy they are not cheap to maintain. Of course they are cheaper to maintain if you're comparing it to the German competitions, but you are very wrong if you think you are going to be paying Toyota Corolla maintenance price on a Lexus IS500.
Bottom line is Lexus and Acura are still very expensive to maintain when comparing to their Toyota and Honda cousins.
Sounds like a nice Supra donor car. Thanks Alex 🍻
V8 and rear drive is very appealing.
What about adding AWD ?
What about offering a 3-pedal, manual transmission option?
V8 V8 V8 V8 V8 V8 V8 - All the way.
Love the 5.7L V8 in my Land Cruiser.
1.) Since you're in a pre-production model, I'm going to assume a sunroof will be standard on a (base price of) $56k compact luxury sedan
2.) My favorite Carole King song. Love the subtle hint to Lexus V8s and/or V8 sedans in general.
I wouldn't assume that about the sunroof. I could see it being optional/not available on this model. Either "We made it an option for those that didn't want it due to structural rigidity since this is the batshit performance model." Or just simply "It's not available due to structural rigidity reasons for this batshit performance model".
@@FantomLightning I think the base is 500 would have no sunroof. You probably have to go up to the premium package for the sunroof
Lots of comments about this isn't the fastest in the class. I'm OK with that and agree with Alex that the slightly softer version makes a good daily. I do agree that the entire car is a bit dated and the interior isn't as good as some of the rivals. And it's priced a little high, but it's still a nice car, IMO. Maybe in a few years, it will be a used car bargain? I would certainly trust this one to hold up over time and be less expensive to maintain and repair than the German counterparts.
I don't think IS500 will be a "used car bargain." Given that V8 is going away. This car will hold the value very well.
@@jul5385 agree. Look at used ISF and GSF. Toyota/Lexus price in their flatter depreciation curves. Buy this new or let it pass you by.
The price is actually incorrect. The base price is $56,500.
But Alex got several facts wrong in this video - the tires are no different from the ones on an IS 350, as he suggested, and the ASC can actually be fully turned-off. All you have to do to turn it off is "click" it into an off position by continuing to turn it after the first detent where it stops. My guess is he rushed this video for some reason.
This is tried, true and is most likely build to last. Every single M40i and C43 that makes it to the dealer lot will be the same price as this IS500, and it's already full loaded. In 5 years, when the BMW/Merc drop out of warranty, and are sitting on lots for a shade under $30k and needing $5k in maintenance, the IS will be there 20-30% higher in value. The only car coming that makes this seem overpriced is the CT4-Blackwing, which starts at $58k. It'll probably out handle it, and get to 60 faster but the CT4 is smaller and less functional. Great Job Lexus. Also, thank you for make this so the IS-F FINALLY goes down in used price. The good ones are STILL sitting in the mid-$30k range.
isf won't decrease
@japanwatchconnection Crap? Calling it a RWD Corolla is something only an ignorant person would say. It has less in common with a Corolla than it does with any other Lexus model.
Bro I had the 2018 CTS and that shit handled horribly my Lexus IS handles 10x better then my Cadillac
@japanwatchconnection bmw fanboys are literally the saddest human beings in the planet 😂
@japanwatchconnection
Let have a race and see who goes to the dealership repair shop fist shall we? On BOTH of my Lexus I've yet to be in a single repair shop. I have 125k on my wife's 2012 IS 350 and 370k on my 2010 Rx350.
I can't tell you how many BMW I've seen at the local European repair shop. The lot is PACKED. 40+ cars waiting to be repaired.
Repairs are expensive too you can keep your BMW (which I would never call crap unlike your description of Lexus). Good luck owning one. That's why people lease a BMW and buy Lexus.
I really like those wheels! Get em while ya can folks! The era of N.A. V-8 are being choked into non existence and this very well maybe the end of a era as far as large displacement V-8 go...I'd love to get one of these.
The next gen might woo me over, but for now I'm pleased with the offerings of my Lincoln! (considering this review)
Agreed this is the DD to have; if you want to track the CT4-V BW will be unbeatable at this price point.
i think you can do a comparison test between the old ISF and the new IS 500
Equipping a comparable german vehicle will yield a higher price tag in most cases(not for Audi), for me the IS is the best looking in the segment and without a doubt the best sounding so it would be an easy deciscion for me if I didn't have an LC
I looked at the used market for these, and they've only depreciated by about $5k since new... I just bought a new one. They are so good! These things are going to hold their value so well in the coming years.
The Lexus I've been waiting for.
Why keep comparing it to the Acura? Who would cross shop this v8 rwd to an acura fwd based car
When Lexus release a new car, pay attention people especially if you are interested in a reliable car that you can buy now and your children can inherit it after you pass on. I drive a 2014 ES300H with 360,000 miles plus with no single issue and still drives like brand new
Most children will not care or want your gas car in the future as everyone is moving toward EV and other alternative source vehicles.
I have one thing to say: Genesis G70 3.3T costs 43K and does 0-60 in about 4.5 seconds and offers incredible feel through the steering wheel and chassis.
You are comparing apple to orange. This is a V8 , not a twin turbo V6. Albeit ,G70 still a decent car.
G70 is lovely and I would want one if they didn't royally bungle their instrument cluster. They clearly anticipated a wider screen and had to design compromise by reversing the tach and squishing it into the middle panel.
I completely understand people expecting this car to start around $55k but this is not a base car. As equipped, its erfectly priced. If this car started at $55k you would never find one for that price as every dealer would at least equip nav/ mark levison which is ~3k and LED headlights ~2k. In the same sense, a 69k M3 or c63 virtually desnt exist. those cars are closer to 80k off the lot.
I agree. When you see a Ford explorer costing over $50k this is a great value.
In Canada, this is rumored to cost dangerously close to BMW M3 and Mercedes C63 AMG numbers at just under $80k CAD. A lot of people keep comparing this to the TLX Type-S, but that is $59k CAD.
He got the price wrong, the price starts at $57,500
@@luigynkaren062011 How dare you. Alex doesn't make mistakes. They dude is the best of the best. You claim he makes a mistake you have to choke yourself. Wtf?
@@thereissomecoolstuff everyone makes mistakes, i went to the dealer myself to place an order. You're very immature, with that attitude you probably can't even afford a nissan versa.
Lexus to Consumers: what more do you want? You are getting a reliable car with decent resale value...
And a beautiful sounding v8
Once my kiddo doesnt need a full child seat in a few years, this is going to be on the top of my shopping list
Simply best sedan in the world. Great job Lexus.
Just too old for the money!
Ha, not even close. Even with this V-8 it’s still slower than the competition with their turbo 6s. Not to mention the whole car is super dated and the interior sucks.
@@mattspeer01 best because it checks all boxes, relatability, value for money later on, fun to drive, luxury and I agree with Alex when he said the car is the perfect balance among the competition
@@mattspeer01 But do you really want to have a fast turbo six over this V-8? There probably won't be any V-8 engines in the segment after this.
Besides, you know good and well a lot of the 0-60 times quoted by magazines are using launch control or building boost. This Lexus does not need to do that to achieve that 4.6 second time.
If I could afford it I would buy it. Lexus luxury and reliability and a v8 ??? Gimme gimme gimme
There are no other competitors for the IS500 for me. In 20 years, the IS500 will be the legend (not the new BMW based Supra) and its engine will be the new 2JZ with double the horsepower in naturally aspirated form. Oh, and the black on black on black interior will outlast all other colors. Great even keel review.
Great video, and like you, I am surprised at how high the base price is. Seeing as it’s not a true F car, I expected to start around the $55k mark.
It’s the only v8 compact sedan left. Is it worth the 7-10K extra to hear that amazing sound vs the type s m340i?
@@naveenthemachine If you were to ask a consumer shopping for a vehicle in this particular category, they’d say no because they can get comparable performance in another car for $7-$10k cheaper.
I love Toyota/Lexus and I like the IS, but Lexus missed the mark pricing it as high as they did.
you just regurgitated what he said....
@@johnjames7712 I had a feeling they would screw up the pricing of IS 500 like the regular IS and they certainly delivered. Literally the only vehicle in it’s it class to not have many features competitors have, like power adjustable steering wheel, power folding/auto dimming mirrors, head up display, genuine leather, suede headliner to name a few.
6:30 best looking spare wheel ever?
I never thought I'd see the day Lexus would make a more attractive sport sedan than BMW.
It's quieter in the cabin that's why they added the ASC. And the ASC isn't fake noise.
This is gonna be a really nice buy in a few years to a decade
Are there AMG versions of C-series? I think that right now the new C-series, W206, only has 1,5 and 2 liter petrol engines😄 And 2 liter diesels.
Reminds me of mid 90s m3
Don't mind Lexus branding this as an "F-Sport" instead of an IS-F, like BMW branding an "M340" instead of an M3. The only one that annoys me is MBZ calling the C43 AMG
Dude the price starts at $56,500 the 61k is probably for the model you got there, i already visit my lexus dealer this is a must buy for me, You got the price wrong.
That's what I said when I got my Porsche 928S with a V8 engine back in 1986.
This needs 255's in the front and 285 or 295's in the rear. I run 245/265 tires on my 2016 IS350 Fsport.
Crazy sells, it shows dedication of Lexus to luxury sports car enthusiasts. This is an exciting luxury sports sedan.
There's a base model for $56,500.
Does it get Mark Levinson 17-speaker and the NuLuxe seat upholstery?
@@2004cyrus It gets NuLuxe but no Mark Levinson.
gotta love that body tilt during the stand still revs
Redline review got 0-60 4.37s
Alex, I think you might need to calibrate your noise meter. It seems like you always get 70 db LOL! And at 50mph, that seems awfully loud. And while I'm at it, it seems like almost every tilt/telescope steering column has a "decent" or "fair" range of motion. Have you ever had one with a "tremendous" range of motion? Seriously though, you do great work and we appreciate you! Keep up the good work, and stay safe.
manual telescoping steering is a let down. It used to be available on IS for a long time.
That's too beautiful of a car to have that silver type color.
Alex, Yesterday you introduced us to an under-powered Toyota (Corolla Cross) and today we meet an overpowered Lexus, is this an effort to find balance from TMC?
Toyota is a great company they have it all
@@Toyota4Life yet they can’t even proclaim the title benchmark in any segment.
@@Toyota4Life This has the lowest output and most outdated transmission and infotainment system in the segment.
@@naveenthemachine yes, Lexus is the worst luxury brand today!
@@normt430 well the. why haven’t they and Toyota been wiped off?
When ticking the option boxes adding leather, a paint color and the HK sound system to a M340i it's $60k allready.
I dont careif its ugly,
The fact a naturally aspirated
5.0 L japaneese qaulity built sedan under $100,000 AUS is available is a gift to the world.
Is this ugly?????? Big grill doesn't mean ugly
So the RCF. Is an M3 competitor and the is500 with the same engine isn't? Doesn't add up.
I was hoping Alex would show the pros and cons. I know this even the same "class" in the performance level, but how does this compared to Acura TLX Type S or Infiniti Q50 Red Sport? The interior for Q50 seems bigger and the infotainment is old, and the TLX has almost the same interior size and slightly better infotainment (arguable). Is V8 and RWD the main reason to get this IF 500?
TLX is a front wheel drive car, Infiniti has atrocious steering feel and drivetrain. Infotainments are awful in all Japanese cars.
0:49 Correct me if im wrong but does Cadillac not have a nice V8? Their V cars...
It's not naturally-aspirated. The one in the CT5-V Blackwing is supercharged.
Alex, your review style is very very complete and very informative. Please stop saying my bad. You sound very for the lack of a better word unprofessional and informal when you say my bad. I very much enjoy your insights and thank you for all the work you and your staff do.
How does stack up against a top trim G70?
If they could only add a manual transmission... I bought a IS300 from a WRX STI and I miss stick driving so much. 😭 Everything else about the car is great, but the transmission...
Beautiful car, fantastic V8, a bit over priced but still glad Lexus made it.
@Jean Toronto Raptors I get that but it's still a bit over priced. I like the car though.
@Jean Toronto Raptors That's for sure.
Agreed, it’s lacking too many features to be in the $60K range, no power folding/auto dimming mirrors, head up display, power adjustable steering wheel, genuine leather, suede headliner, and wireless charger to name a few. Others like the G70 and TLX give you more for your money, with the IS 500 you’re literally paying for the engine, that’s it lol.
@Jean Toronto Raptors Far from it, I just don’t ass kiss to certain companies and let them get away with cost cutting and other idiotic decisions simply because I like their products. Polar opposite of you I suppose.
@Jean Toronto Raptors No I’ll critique any car and/or company I want and call them out on their bullshit. Did anyone force you to reply to my comment? Clearly it triggered you lol.
Lexus IS V8 2022 is the muscle car, Nissan GTR is a muscle car as well. Plus Nissan Z400 coming out too with 467 Horsepower.
Come on Alex they’ve done it before in 2008 with the ISF
Nice review but I was hoping for the usual size comparison chart. I don't know where Lexus cars sit in the segment really (except that the LS is the big sedan). If I wanted a NA V8 I would go with a 2020 or 2021 Genesis G90. Looks better inside and out then this Lexus IS500.
Alex I love you review on this car being it is a muscle car aimed at the muscle car enthusiast why didn't Lexus put in a 6-speed manual in this car that is what this car needs a true manual transmission I get so tired of these 7/8 and 10 speed automatic in a car like this you do not want an automatic transmission you want to have a manual transmission you want to have the control of a manual transmission with that good suspension to work you want this car to handle like a true Road car and that means a manual transmission is required Lexus are you listening .
Was the IS500 you test drove atomic silver ?
I buy used cars for cash, so I'm looking at this as a potential future purchase. For me, reliability is the primary thing in any car. The IS500 seems like a great choice as a driving experience, and I like its looks. With those things in place at a 'good enough' level, and viewing it as a used car with ~75k miles, expected reliability makes it easily the one to beat in the segment. It would take a fair number of other superior qualities to overcome that at a given price.
Which is why these have minuscule depreciation ~
how do you get one if none is on the market for sale?
Acura TLX is the direct competitor of this car Alex that's what you said. A FWD based chassis TLX with SH-AWD, is the direct competitor, of a RWD car on a RWD biased chassis. Whatever you are smoking I want some of it.
I was a BMW lifer having owned more than 20 of them over the years. Their current models have been so unreliable and strayed so far from the ultimate driving machine I was promised I ended up in a Charger RT Daytona. In 2 or 3 years this will definitely be it’s replacement. Kudos, Lexus. Beautiful job.
Dang I thought the b58 was pretty reliable, no? Like the one in the m340i
I sold my 328i for IS250
"I was a BMW lifer having owned more than 20 of them over the years. Their current models have been so unreliable and strayed so far from the ultimate driving machine I was promised I ended up in a Charger RT Daytona."
LOL! BMW's in fact even though BMW are still piece of junk they are much better in newer models than before. and Dodge Charger is no more reliable than BMW's. Somehow I am having difficulty to believe in your statement.
Had a 5 series and was miserable, never again.
@japanwatchconnection I’m not sure why you’re no bothered. The Charger has been way more reliable than any new BMW I’ve had before it.
@Alexonautos does this engine look like it's too tightly shoe-horned into the engine bay? Hard to do repairs when Im the 2nd/3rd owner? Thanks!
@japanwatchconnection Imagine comparing a RWD Lexus sedan to a Corolla.
I'm not a Lexus fan at all (except for the LC500). But I absolutely applaud Lexus for offering this thing with a proper V8. Kudos to Lexus for this.
Something tells me that Lexus won't be keen on leasing a limited production, first model year, IS500. Buying may be the only option but that's not really a bad thing considering the legendary reliability ratings
Alex isn’t the base price 56500 instead of 61000?
Yes I think if you get the barebone base model it will start at just a little bit over $57,000 including destination charge.
But good luck finding one at that price in the current market. Maybe if it's sit in the lot long enough, otherwise you won't have a chance.
Yeah Alex got a few things wrong on this video:
* He suggested that the IS 500 has different tires from the IS 350, which is not true.
* He said ASC can't be turned off, but it can. All you have to do is turn the dial all the way down, then it will "click" into an off position. He just didn't bother trying to turn it hard enough.
This is going to hold its value for so long. Damn I’m going to be 50 before I can own one.
If lexus' 10 speed was boring the 8 speed is horrendous
One of the very last Yamaha tuned 2UR-GSE engines.
I may be overthinking this, but the IS500 is so incredibly well priced (excluding dealer markups) that, as a new car buyer, it seems Lexus is about to finally completely refresh this model. For many Lexus buyers, futureproofing isn't really a concern, but I think people should keep in mind that the bargain of a price for. V8 comes with a silent caveat.
thumbs up for "in this vehicle the 500 means it has a 5 liter engine under the hood" vs. the mercedes e350 has a 2 liter engine what a joke!
@japanwatchconnection Why do you need twin-turbo 6-cylinder either? Four cylinders are so good they should just put them in everything!