Energica EVA Ribelle vs. Zero SR/F: The Best Electric Naked?
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It’s all about the DC Fast Charging.
and reliability, which all Zeros lack
Wow the booth look amazing to me. Looks like the future will be fun!
No wonder that Energica competes in Moto GP - Moto E series
The Energica EVA Ribelle is what I would imagine an E-Triumph Street Triple/Speed Triple would look like, love it!
It's riding the future. Wouldn't go back to ICE. This is so much more satisfying to ride. And easy to charge at home, back from a trip.
Amazing that with an ocean and a continent between the two developers, they both independently decided to put the same el cheapo Alibaba brake fluid reservoir as the big eye catcher on the handle bar.
honestly, it doesn't look that bad compared to what they did with the r7 sticking the reservoir next to the rear passenger peg. looks ugly placed there in my opinion. but just my opinion anyway :P
I don’t like how it looks either. Why make it so visible?????!!!!!!
I'd take the Energica over the Zero any day. That DC fast charge is something I couldn't do without in my usecase.
The Zero is a good commuter or weekend fun bike.
The Erengica is a long term commitment and would be considered as a primary transportation unit for people who are going electric and don't even intend on looking back.
Great video as always. Thanks.
Indeed
I love my 2022 Energica Eva Ribelle so much (can't stay off of it). I've been putting a few videos of it here on UA-cam.
I test rode both the SR/F and Ribelle the same week and while both bikes are nice, I bought the Ribelle for the same reasons stated in this video. Extra range, performance, and DC fast charging, I felt, were well worth the small price difference.
And now it seems it might end up being more consumer friendly for repairs if something goes wrong
@@surrealchemist deffinitely
Indeed far better service for the energica !!
Either of them please.
I really need to try and find some where in Scotland that does electric bikes for a test ride.
Let me know if you find somewhere beyond Harley as the livewire doesn't do it for me.
@@stoneysoprano I think saltire in Edinburgh do them, I think. I had to take my Ktm there for a service and I m pretty sure they had electric bikes.
Rode one of these today. Brilliant bike.
If I remember correctly the Eva has an oil cooled motor and fast charger 3.3kw and DC standard while the Zeros don't. That accounts for the extra mass.
Thanks Bob! The red one for me! Pricey yes, however like all new technologies, the new innovations are until they became a bit more the norm. I think I’ll wait a couple of years... 👍😎
Great comparison video. A couple of points that you didn't bring up was build quality and heat management. The energica has much better build quality. Also, the energica has much better heat management. Zeros tend to overheat and reduce power when riding hard. That being said, a person would be lucky to enjoy either of these bikes in their fleet.
Letsssgoooo $IDEX 🚀🙌🏽
How far two up with luggage in the winter pls
I will pick both 🔥❤️
That sr pink and blue wrap is killer
energica for sure
SR/F, but the Energica is damn beautiful
$IDEX BABY LETS GOOO 🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀
I bought the Zero S 14.4kWh version it is the lightest and with slow overnight charge only 180kg plus extras I put there. Still enough for 200-240km touring if I go max 65 km/h to get max range and enjoy scenery.
What kind of helmet is that your wearing? Looks like good peripheral vision
Nexx XG100R
@@motobob thanks
What is the seat height? I wouldn’t fancy tip toeing it at 260kg.
It’s 790mm
@@motobob surprisingly low then. That helps! I think it looks great.
@@masongoss4615 @newzeroland s wife just got one with an extra low seat
For cars battery weight isn't an issue, but until solid state batteries become affordable I think as bikers we'll be stuck with a big compromise.... Weight or short range.
I want the Zero but with DC fast charging included.
That's the issue I have. I prefer the lighter weight of the zero but no DC fast charging for roughly the same price makes it a hard sell.
Those livewire stats look terrible
I mean, it's a harley at the end of the day. you can count on them being overpriced and underwhelming.
Nice awesome concept bike like to own
Between the two, has to be the Energica. The range and speed - and more sophisticated looks - can't be ignored. Pricer, yes, but you're already spending over 18K, and for *that* money you'd always be wishing you got the better bike. Now you're talkin'! And, BTW, this puts the LiveWire on the trailer.
100% right :)
Love it! But €30K is absurd for a motorcycle.
agreed, however 30k is for a top of the line top specced model, realistically you can get one for 24k-25k, and could be lower depending on where you live and if there are any government incentives... 25k is still a lot, but this is the price to pay (sadly) for something that currently is not mass produced
I noticed he said about the Rocket 3, but at under 20k, the Rocket 3 makes better sense, plus you can fill it up anywhere.
@@neillambton4065 Where I live the Rocket 3 list price is 23k Euros.. Which is more or less the same price of a Brand new Eva, with government incentives. Energica can be filled anywhere too (you need an electric socket, which technically, is more common than a gas station.) the only difference is the time it takes to fill up compared to gas...
@@neillambton4065 you can fill it up anywhere because there are gas stations everywhere. Getting pretty close to having charging stations everywhere, although I'm in hippy California :P
Pricing will come down within 5 years, infrastructure is improving as well with note charge locations dotted about. Almost all the local super markets have points, service stations too.
At the end of the day it's where we are heading (electric vehicles) so we need to embrace it eventually.
Would it climb a kerb in walking mode, without a run-up? ie. if the front wheel was pressed-up hard against a four-inch kerb, would it need to reverse or would it still be capable of going forward? I've asked this elsewhere on the EV forums and received no satisfactory answer. Neither has any reviewer on UA-cam covered the subject of manouvering the bike on undulating/sloping & confined spaces (using walking mode) to any useful degree. Those of us who are pressed for space need to know such things! Simply going forward and back on a level surface tells us little. Cheers.
I've riden the older Eva and loved the look, feel and handling. But was disappointed with the range considering the size of the battery. I guess the weight and power has a negative effect on range. Also tried the SR/F, but prefered a faired bike, so chose the SR/S. I don't miss having no DC charging, because DC chargers are mostly located along the highway here in the Netherlands, and I avoid the highway as much as possible. Public chargers are AC. There my SR/S with 6 kW charger is twice as fast as the Energica. But 99% of the time I charge at home.
The new Eva (Ribelle) does 150km range on legal highway speed (103 real km/h). I commute 60 to and 60 back daily and don't need to charge in between. Those 120km are 15 rural and 105 highway. With fast overtaking of everything slower than 103 (on the highways). The 3kW AC charging is underwhelming but no problem when home charging. And there is still DC charging for long trips.
Thanks! Would love to see a review on one of the models from Damon, they look pretty compelling.
SRF for me every time. Better quality judging by the looks - dash etc and better road "fully" focused. Also I think the Energica whine of the motor may get annoying perhaps? Great vid😉
I'm sorry but quality is (maybe a part from the dashboard) far superior on the Energica, lots of CNC parts on the Eva, plus even if J.Juan is a good brand, the Brembo on the Energica are superior is terms of quality, same goes for the suspensions (ps I tested both, and choose Energica, check my videos)
@@MrJoe988 OK fair enough mate 👌🍻
Looking forward great 👍 bike 🏍 great 👍 like in Australia 🇦🇺
What oil do these electrics run? 😉
So you burn the oil in an electric generator and charge it up ! Or am I missing the point ? :-D
Actually the Energica has a chain and a small gearbox, and there’s gear oil.
@@merlinrazzo5022 No gearbox, nor gear oil. BUT it does have a liquid cooling system and brake fluid. With the SRF you have less maintenance due to the Belt instead of The Chain and not being liquid-cooled. but at high speeds, the SRF will overheat and force you to drop your speed while the Energica will never do that due to the liquid cooling system.
@@merlinrazzo5022 wow
@@toidragon
I am not 100% certain on gear oil, but the Eva Ribelle Has a chain and a reduction gear system, with a small gearbox
Not much form, the finish just looks functional on these. Just can't get excited about it. Especially since I can get a streetfighter V4 and 5k change. Still too early for electric bikes imo
Strong point for the Zero, the belt drive. Big drawback for the Energica, the chain drive. Still, I went for the Energica for the bigger range and faster charging. Better looks as well. Btw, my favourite Zero is the SR/S over the SR/F. A very elegant bike.
Chain is a problem why? I know is more maintenance, but on the other hand chain is less likely to break while riding, and if that happens it can be "patched" on the side of the road, if the belt snaps, and you don't have a spare with you, you are stuck!
@@MrJoe988 The chain is a problem (for me I should say) because it needs cleaning, lubing, tensioning and it makes a greasy mess on the motorcycle.
@@RH-xm5uk I understand, and I agree that a belt is definitely more clean!
Mine too, in fact I own a SR/S! Range is the same as the Energica (less weight and less power -> more efficient). On AC charging, the Zero Premium is twice as fast (6 kW vs 3 kW). With a charge tank 12 kW.
Can't wait for the Damon electric motorcycle from Canada to be reviewed. It looks epic.
I saw that on MCN, and if the price and spec's are to be believed, then it does look a lot better, and could be a realistic proposition.
higher weight but a massively increased range. i'll take that any day
Zero charge you for reverse capability as a cypher "upgrade" so that's a £160 onto its price comparision
I like this, yes I 'd have ane electric bike, but not for touring.
I tour on my DSR and have no problems. As long as you stay off the motorway you can easily get 400+km in a day if you can charge the bike over lunch. I never really did more than 400km on my Honda NC750, so I find it is just as practical.
the best electric naked is a PETROL street triple RS
does not make sense...
@@MrJoe988 Makes perfect sense.
and they will not be making an electric bike anytime soon with a wet weight of just over 180 Kg like the Striple.
The Zero is five grand cheaper even in Premium form, so they're not comparable products. I wouldn't want my Zero any heavier. None of these bikes will cross a continent unless you're extremely patient about it, but both can satisfy most people's commuter needs. I do 60 miles a day on the Zero, and it's faster than pretty much everything else in the midrange.
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Energica looks visually better, maybe that's because it's a kind of Italian racing red , rather than the "alternative" colour scheme on the Zero ( I guess they have others)
I'd like the extra range, I wouldn't want the extra weight, and "how much ?" !!!!
Think I'll be carrying on as a fossil fuel burning dinosaur for quite sometime to come :-D
Livewire anyone?
Go for energica for better quality and service .. buyvit for your company as a write off ..
Those performance numbers shame the Livewire, but the Livewire is much prettier.
cars are still quite ahead in making electrical vehicles is concerned.
A good looker, too heavy, too expencive...I want one! And yet...what could those money get me? So much!
Exactly, for around £12 to £15K , there are a bunch of petrol super nakeds that will 0 to 60 MPH just as quick, refill in 5 minutes, and have much better range. They all weigh a lot less too.
@@karlosh9286 it's not about burning stuff anymore.
Look at the Eva 107 Std battery. Second hand. It's such a good bike. Finish is top notch.
haha, same here (I really enjoy experiencing e-motorbikes but only vicariously on yt, irl I only drive shared e-scooters across Berlin).
In my world 25k buys you a pro travel bicycle with outdoor equipment plus 1-2 years budget if you know what you're doing.
If there HAD to be an electric motor involved I'd get a monotrailer with a geared hubmotor and a 200W PV and a Grin Tech satiator fast charger to be semi autonomous on the go (see suntrip for that kind of fun).
OR some C90 "Chonda" to do the same but oldschool like @c90adventures ; )
Did I spy a shot of Portishead?
Yes indeed!
@@motobob Nice roads around these parts... Spring is coming, you can explore. A38 west is your road to heaven.
@@StreetTwinRider we just moved here a couple of months back so been locked down ever since and not really managed to get out on the bike much. DM me on Instagram if you fancy a spin once we’re allowed out! I’m in desperate need of someone to show me some good local spots for filming etc 👍
@@motobob I’ve got you covered, I know some pretty cool spots. ✌️
Look like the 2nd from Evangelion
This gave me a chuckle! Could see Asuka riding this!
If your riding in the city that extra cost is ridiculous. Just get the Zero.
Yes, for city or commuting Zero makes more sense!
And for those who want to leave the city often, the Enérgica makes more sense.
The extra cost is more than worth it as it allows one to reach a destination 200 miles away with DCFC and extra range in almost half the time. City commuters will be just fine with Zero as long as a charge isn’t needed enroute as 3-6 kW L2 can take a considerable amount of time compared to DCFC and 12kW J-1772 stations are hard to find.
They are all taking the piss pricewise at the moment. Probably will cost half the amount in 5 years.
I thought that too 5 years ago but prices keep going up. A used electric bike will depreciate like a boulder falling off a cliff though.
@@fivespeed3026 Marketing I guess. All I see is a bomb on wheels if the batteries are breached in the event of an accident. Impressive torque though.
@@ErgonBill I owned a ‘15 Zero SR, they’re just not ready for the mainstream yet. I don’t plan on owning another for at least a decade.
Impressive stats,,,but,,,I don't see the attraction of electric bikes, not for me.
They're getting better, but not remotely viable as a commuter, not when my SV does 60mpg.
Depends. My commute is 20 miles round trip to work, which means I can nearly go a week without charging. Works well for me.
270kgs fucken hell
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Zero SR/F is the best looking electric motorcycle...., so far
Now were talking. EV range is closer to where I need.
It’s getting there. I read that a company had developed a car battery that recharges in 5 mins recently too. It’s super expensive and requires a charger that can do it of course, but a good sign of things to come!
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That sound! Like a broken sowing machine... Not good. Bike is amazing though.
Is that what a broken sowing machine sounds like? Good to know.
no engine no bike
Ridiculous prices.... an hour to charge.... no blipping throttle or exhaust pops when decelerating, no no no....electric bikes won't be parked in my garage anytime soon.....
Whats with the specs in KM? You are English I am English and The platform may as well be English..
MILES MAN MILES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i'd give anything to have an electric bike that is anything except my freedom and unfortunately with either bike that's exactly what you are giving up. you are giving up the freedom to throw some cloths in a backpack, jump on your bike and just hit the road for wherever. with a gas bike you can take off in any direction and your only limits are going to be an ocean, with an electric bike your limits are going to come about every 80 miles which really sucks because to be totally honest, i am so over gas bikes, they are noisy, obnoxious, always needing something done to them and compared to electric bikes they are so antiquated but you can throw your leg over a gas bike and just keep going not to mention for about half the price or less of buying an electric. bottom line; if you want something that is mainly only going to be good for commuting, you go out and get yourself a moped for 5 grand, you go out and dump $30k+ on a new motorcycle, it better be able to keep going for as long as you want to go.....