►TIMESTAMPS 0:00 Intro 1:17 How do I upgrade from 2 memory sticks to 4? 6:27 Do you need to reinstall graphics drivers after a GPU swap/upgrade? 8:57 I changed my NVIDIA dynamic range color settings to “full” vs “limited”, why do things look weird now? 12:01 Would a 2D/3D modeling/rendering PC have the same demands as a video editing PC? 14:03 Is there a cost effective means to stream a gaming PC to a TV in another room? 17:58 Do you get a lot of friend requests after showing gameplay in a video or live stream? 19:26 I need help getting Ryzen to work with Linux 20:46 Headphone users rejoice - but don’t use the front panel audio jacks
Hey paul love the channel...really helped me build my own gaming rig :)..... to help people find ram timing it might be worth mentioning the program cpuz that how i found my exact timing got the same 16gb kit and it worked straight away
@@MAJIN_LOL You are on all the drugs if you think he will both find this amongst the 100's of 1,000's of comments, and take time out of his life to manually email you about a problem you didn't even bother to explain in even one word.
19:26 - I would be surprised if he could find a processor that didn't work with Linux. All Ryzen processors work fine with Linux. For hardcore Linux users, they have some caveats, but these issues are being ironed out with rapid development to the core Linux Kernal.
Hey Paul - I just wanted to take minute to say thank you. It had been 20 years since I attempted to put together a PC, but after finding your page and watching several videos I decided to give it another shot. I followed your videos first in purchasing all of the hardware, assembling the system and then installing the OS and optimizing the software. By far the fastest, and most economical PC I have ever owned. To top it all off, there is something really rewarding in being able to do something slightly outside your comfort zone as well. In the end, everyone should take comfort in knowing Paul's process and instructions work. If I can do it, anyone can. The videos are excellent. Very much appreciate the time and effort and production you apply to your channel.
For the Linux question: The fast and easy answer is: any distro that's released a version in the last 3 years will almost assuredly support Ryzen. Ubuntu, since it was mentioned, even as far back as 16.04 (the oldest version I see in any meaningful frequency these days) will support it. The longer answer is sometime around kernel version 4.10 is when there's decent enough support for most functions/features you'd want. After that, there have been some extra things like patches for temperature monitoring, some optimizations/security fixes, etc. Zen 2 support came later, but really most popular distros should have no issue at this point. For example, I've run debian, Ubuntu, and arch on zen 2 without issues at all.
I can confirm this. I'm using Kubuntu 20.04 with a Ryzen 5 1600 and it works out of the box. A good source of information or place to ask questions on gaming on linux is r/linux_gaming.
I have a ryzen 3 2200g (with vega 8) and ubuntu 19.10 works as it should (dual boot). I have heard though nvidia dedicated gpu's are a pain to set up because of driver support. Amd though is easy and i have heard people say its better because amd themselves have worked on the drivers. Windows 7 i think is NOT supported by new cpu's. Especially ryzen.
Also wanting to add that this support is at the *kernel* level, not the *distro* level - I'm running a 3600X using Manjaro (which is a derivative of Arch Linux, which I do not recommend trying until you get a bit more Linux experience under your belt because... sometimes things can break) and literally everything worked right out of the box. You will be able to run Ubuntu Studio with zero issues at all using any generation of Ryzen currently available. As far as supporting "older" CPUs - as long as the CPU supports the AMD64/x86_64 CPU instruction set extension (in other words, 64-bit CPUs, which if I'm not mistaken support goes all the way back to the Pentium 4 days), it will run any recent Linux kernel.
Thanks so much for answering my question! This was my first probe, and I wasn't expecting it to go so deep. I really appreciate you getting into the details. I'll absolutely take your advice into consideration when I decide to pull the trigger on a new RAM kit
i have 4 ram slots on my msi b250 board , shud i go in 4x8gb or 2x16gb configuration .. i olready have corsair vengeance lpx 2x8gb. all i need is 32gb ram only to work wd my i7 7700 and gtx 1060 6gb
THANK YOU for answering the RAM question. I couldnt find a straight and direct answer anywhere else ( building first PC) learning as I build upon so far on: Asus P8Z68 Gen3 - i7 2600K - AIO CoolerMaster - EVGA GTX 960 4GB - & now I know 100% when next buying RAM Corsair 4x8GB Package instead of 2x8GB now/2x8GB later because I rather not do that whole BIOS adjustment thing you mentioned. Safe to say buying 4-Pack guarantees a SMOOTH operation out the box & not stressing if adding more same RAM after is infact doing same/worse then just buying all at once
For streaming PC to remote TV: Depends what 'smart' features the TV has. Can use a wireless-display feature (different terms depending on brand) to clone/extend PC's desktop & games etc for no extra money at all, just make sure TV is connected to same network as PC (Ethernet or WiFi, either should work). If you want to control the PC from the TV-room, there are apps for that. Streaming media to a Smart TV can usually be done by the TV's media sharing app, again for free. Another option is a thunderbolt cable run between the rooms and a hub on the TV-room end for connecting peripherals, can even connect the TV to that for a single-cable solution. (LTT's Linus does this in his house so they don't hear their PC cooling noises etc while they work). IDK how much that solution costs, but a single cable for screen and peripherals is likely easier than a cable for each. Price will depend on the length of the cable-run, naturally. I have a 30-metre HDMI cable I used to use for connecting a projector over a drop-ceiling; it was cheap and worked fantastic for my use-case. I could even set an Android phone/tablet as a WiFi touch-pad/keyboard to control the PC source. Great for streaming movies, though I never tried to 'game' with such a setup! Hope my rambling is helpful to someone :)
I've been building my own systems for a long time now, and I can honestly say that I've just learned something watching this video. I recently bought a new setup as my old computer tanked completely. Old computer was DDR3, so this was my first experience delving into DDR4 from a build standpoint. For the new build, I bought a kit of 2x8GB G.SKILL Ripjaws V 3600 CL16-19-19-39. Went back a couple weeks later for a new video card and decided to double the RAM since that same kit was still available and on sale. Now, I'm running into timing issues with the RAM. I can get the system stable at 3200 with appropriate timings. 3600 forces the CMOS to revert, and anything between causes stability issues. I should note that this isn't running it through the XMP profiles available, as they don't work. There's other preloaded memory configurations available that I use instead. I've checked the compatibility list for my motherboard as well (MSI X570-A Pro), and noted that the specific kit SKU isn't on the list, though it is very close to other compatible kit SKUs for G.SKILL. I was writing it off as a compatibility issue between the motherboard and the RAM, but after watching this, I'm wondering if it's because of using two dual kits, even though they are the exact same SKU. I hadn't done the XMP prior to adding the additional RAM, so I might test that out when I get home later to see if two sticks will run stable at their rated clock and timing.
@@pranaysaini6418 No, it did not. However, yesterday I got around to upgrading my processor from a 2700x to a 5600x. Which, of course, required a BIOS update on my x570 board (I did a BIOS update when I built this system, as well). After swapping in the hardware and booting up, I went to configure the CMOS. On a lark, I tried the XMP settings. Lo and behold, both profiles were matching and at the correct timings for those kits (they weren't, previously). Just activated the XMP, and have had no issues whatsoever. I am fairly certain since I had updated the BIOS when I had gotten the motherboard, that the BIOS update wasn't the corrective action. I believe it was an incompatibility with the memory controller either within that generation of Ryzen, that particular series or lot of R7s, or maybe just the MC within my particular CPU was crap. Either way, problem resolved.
Paul, Paul.. The Steam from PC-to-PC is called "In Home Streaming" The Steam to a Steamlink or to a device using the Steamlink APP is Steamlink. Steamlink is (im not sure how people dont understand this) also a fully featured Remote client. Just click the corner "Exit Big Picture Mode" and BOOM, you're staring at your desktop. You can play ANY games via Steamlink that way. You exit Big Picture, and then just use your mouse and keyboard (plugged into your Steamlink (device or the device running the App) and open up your other game. Works fine. You can even use it to do real work, watch movies, whatever. Its a full up remote desktop experience. The best way to do it, IMO, is an nVidia Shield TV, since itll actually support 4k. The Steamlink Hardware (discontinued) doesn't (only 1080p). The app on Android or iOS (or Raspbian, you can use a Raspberry Pi to make a Steamlink this way) has to support 4k/60 if you want it to work, which the shield does. iOS and Android devices that aren't Android TV (of which the Shield TV is by FAR the best) would have to have some way to output to your TV, of course, and generally only work over wireless.. and the AndroidTV/ShieldTV has Ethernet, which is a lot more stable. And if your PC hardware wont hack 4k... the ShieldTVs AI upscaling is actually quite good and can be applied to games. The ShieldTV also lets you stream your PC (full remote capability) with the nVidia In Home Streaming option if you have an nVidia GPU.
Nice job Paul, especially on the RAM upgrade options. A lot of people skip over the XMP / timings issue when adding an identical matched 2-DIMM kit to a system that already has the exact same 2-DIMM kit and I find that the only people that tend to be aware of that issue are people that have actually run into it first-hand. You didn't go into the advantages / disadvantages of 2 vs 4 ranks (single and dual-ranked DIMMs) and 1T vs 2T command rates, which if done correctly can offer upwards of a 25% performance increase in certain workloads that are often memory bottlenecked. For example: using 4 x DDR4-3733 @ C16 T2 over Ryzen optimized 2 x 8GB DDR4-3200 @ C16 T1 can offer up-to 25% faster compression/decompression rates and up-to 10% higher frame rates in certain titles, although it can actually hurt performance in some scenarios as well. I admit that while that config requires a mild overclock and knowledge that your hardware can do it, it's beyond what 99% of people are going to want to do, or need for that matter.
i have 4 ram slots on my msi b250 board , shud i go in 4x8gb or 2x16gb configuration .. i olready have corsair vengeance lpx 2x8gb. all i need is 32gb ram only to work wd my i7 7700 and gtx 1060 6gb
There can be a lot of static between the headphone wire to the gold convertor jack to the socket, as whenever the gold socket moves it moves slightly/ would avoid that . I would buy a long cable with weaved sleeving and do the thing we do in events which you tie a twist loop knot and connect the two connect buy leads. It stops the cables pulling apart.
Hey Paul! Happy 50th probing! I’ve recently built a PC about a month ago that I plan on taking to college where I’ll be living on campus in dorms. What’s the best way to get a fast internet connection in the inconvenience that there isn’t an ethernet port in the room? Are pcie wireless cards (with the antennas?) better than a usb solution? How much is too much to spend on a wireless solution? That concludes my probing of Paul.
I use the front headphone jack and my music sounds just fine. i have: Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case and Gigabyte X570 AORUS PRO WIFI ATX AM4 Motherboard.
Hey Paul I love your content. I have a question so I was planing to build a gaming pc in the next coming months and I was wondering how much of your budget should you spend on a gpu? I have a budget of $800 btw.
Amazing how the little tricks and sources fly by in the stream of knowledge. Saving entire link to vid. as to re-watch for the not currently usable knowledge. Amazing Paul, ty so much!
More Probing? Yes please. Seriously though, I really enjoy people asking questions that I sometimes don't really think about OR times when I've had the question before and couldn't find a straight forward answer. Since I'm here... are there any other games that you and your wife both enjoy playing separate/together aside from Overwatch?
Always feel like the content creators I watch all have this same type of outer view personality of being unbiased and very literate in their field as well as entertaining. -Nicks Strength and Power for bodybuilding/fitness world -Grapplr, a twitch streamer for LOR -binging with babish for cooking -Paul’s Hardware for pc building I watch a lot more content creator as well for on building and video games and fitness but these 4 are always the ones I can’t miss a video of. Keep up the great content Paul!
I don't have a question, just some kind words. Happy silver anniversary on your probing. May your marriage see a silver as well! Best to the family and pat them pups for me.
I want more probing Paul. I love all the help from you and Kyle when you guys answer questions on the live show. Thank you for all your help getting me back into building my gaming computer and server.
Great show Paul, would definitely watch more frequent Probing Paul. Weekly, answer 2 or 3 questions and/or high light something interesting. You definitely gave me the information and confidence to build my first and then second gaming PC in the past year. Thanks for the help!
Not sure if anyone will see this but I will post it anyways, recently I was shown that windows has mouse acceleration on by default if you go into mouse settings, then click on additional mouse options on the right side, under the 3nd tab the first checkbox "enhance pointer precision" should be unchecked. If it's checked you have mouse acceleration. This was pointed out to me and actually made a big difference gaming.
The Corsair LPX series lists speed and latencies for each model. It was a breeze to order a 2x16 that matched my 2x8. Tripling your RAM feels awesome for not to much money. This just reminded me I did it before when I went from 4MB to 12MB... And now I feel old...
A follow up to the front & motherboard aux connector question: what audio device does a HDMI monitor use? Does it use the system for the front panel or motherboard aux connector?
HAD 2x4gb Corsair Low Porfile 3000C15 ram. Micron E die on a X370 board. Had it overclocked to 3200 C14-18-14-16-32 48 1t Bought a 2x8gb Crucial ballistx 3000C15 Micron A die. (identical timings, slightly better subtimings) Figure I would sell the older memory but decided I try to run both of them together. They worked. Overclocked them to the old subtimins I had. Surprisingly also worked flawlesslty with perceived improved timing. Decided to keep it. Glad I did, FS2020 needs more than 16gb at high+ These cheap Crucial Ballistx often go above 3466 C16 speed on modern x570 boards, but unfortunately, anything above 3266 on my x370 won't boot. Tough the thight timings I have gives better numbers than a stock loose 3600 c16 kit. You often have margin for tightening RAM. If you have compatibility problems with 4 dims, often you only need to deal with initial memory training with XMP off to stabilize the 4 dimms, increase the voltage, disable geardown and gradually increase frequency. You eventually will be able to even overclock the ram above its stock speed.
Man between you, Linus, JAYZ2cents, and gamers nexus i learned everything i needed to know to build my own pc for the first time. Not only is my pc a beast, but i really enjoyed building it and the satisfaction of it working like a champ is great. thanks!
For the gaming in another room question: Linus has a pretty badass solution using thunderbolt 3, and Parsec is a really badass remote play program that is free. For the long Linux question: Linux loves Ryzen! I've used Ubuntu, Pop!, Manjaro, Arch, and all work great with my Ryzen processors (2600, 3600, 3700X)
Question: I just bought the new Samsung monitor with 1440p 240hz. Will my PC with a 1080 and ryzen 7 1700 with 3.6 all-core be able to get 240fps in games on low-medium settings? Or should I upgrade to a more powerful prosessor like the 3700x?
I have a 2700X and a 1080 and 1440P and I can't even hit 144 FPS most of the time unless im on low. Sooooooooo their ya go, also it depends on the game what are you playing are you playing eSports then it'll help for sure for the cpu. That said I believe even a 1700 could saturate 240 FPS for those games. Frankly my experience is more of a graphics limitation for us in other games. Also if you don't need 8 cores you don't need a cores. Save yourself some money and go with the r5 3600. or honestly just wait because 4000 series processors will be coming out before too long and supposedly new nvidia cards. But if you absolutely cannot wait then go 3600
Great advice and excellent! I had 2 x 16gb 3000Mhz Corsair DIMMS and purchased 2 x 32 GB 3600 Mhz Corsair DIMMS... It didn't go well on my ASROCK X570 Taichi ATX motherboard. No sir mixing these RAMs did all sort of weird things.. - Boot Loop... - Setting the Ram speed to 3000 Mhz in the BIOS would cause the system to boot , but on next reboot it will go into 2 boot loop and then in BIOS it would get set to 2400 Mhz. I removed the 2 x 16gb and everything is fine now.
Hi Paul, got a question regarding Windows OS performance, and how having the OS on its own separate drive can boost the overall performance of your PC. Could you elaborate on this? What this actually means in theory // How to implement it // Is it necessary on an NVMe M.2 SSD // How background app activity affects this (if at all)? For extra context I'm planning a B550 Ryzen build with a 500GB Corsair MP600 PCIe Gen4 as the main drive with OS, personal files and main programs, then a Samsung 860 EVO SSD for working files (video mostly), plus a 4TB Seagate Barracuda for game storage. Should I be splitting up that main drive to separate the OS/files/programs?
I am probably the only person from Gen-Z who understands the reference of your 'intro' that being: Bill and Ted's Excellent adventure, which, in and of itself, is quite an excellent adventure lol.
For BC Field Technician: Ubuntu 20.04 runs great on my ryzen machine. Ryzen5 2600, XFX RX580 8GB vid card, 16gb RAM, 500GB NVMe, B450M-DS3H mobo. I have used ubuntu 16, 18 and now 20 on that machine daily for 2 years and have not had one problem. Basically if its AMD it will run fine on linux. AMD stuff is built into the kernel so all the stuff just works automagically. Some nvidia cards have problems on some distros. There are nvidia drivers for linux though.
Very timely video. I had tried to upgrade the RAM and now it fails to boot. Black screen and fan just turns on and off like it is rebooting. I'll out old RAM back in ...
I run Ubuntu 20.04 LTS on my Ryzen 3 2200G with and Asrock HDV rel 4.0 motherboard. It worked out of the box, no need to look for drivers. For NVIDIA drivers see my last sentence. I even run Ubuntu Studio 20.04 and an activated Windows 10 Pro in a Virtualbox Virtual Machine (VM) on the same system. Try out other discos using Virtualbox, it is easy and fast. You don't loose much performance (
To add some insight on the HDBaseT balun set, most will be able to do a distance of 100' extended reach will get to 100m (330') the latency is only 1-2 frames
When I upgraded my monitor I briefly lost my mind trying to get the colors to look "correct" to me. I had gone from a bog-standard panel to a 144 ips and also from HDMI to DP. When I was playing overwatch I would constantly be clicking around trying to get the "vibrant" colors I was familiar with across the board. Turns out I was just used to looking at improperly calibrated images. Spent way too long realizing my new panel just tends to slightly yellow so bumped up the blue in nvidia and then even longer calibrating it by eye.
Solved the multi room pc issue with a couple firesticks, a nvidia gpu, a good wifi router, and a program called moonlight. I can stream my pc to any android device or tv in my house and the whole setup only cost me the price of the firesticks (which were freebie hand-me-downs). Wireless peripherals are obviously a must. PS4 controllers worked the best for me and went through multiple floors and walls in my home.
I swear it feels like half of these videos are in French. But the half that I do understand is incredibly useful information. And each time I watch a video I feel like I understand a little bit more "French." It's fun!
Important for a Ram upgrade is also on which platform you are. I got a 2000series Ryzen CPU and i added also 2 stick to my existing 2 Sticks, so that I have a total of 4; they are all rated for 3200mhz speed, they are all the same type/Kit of ram, same manufacturer, same frequency, same CL, same capacity. However, I ran into stability issues when I try to run them with their DOCP Settings(or XMP as most know it(but that just on Intel, while DOCP is on AMD). My System kept crashing all the time. I remember hearing back in the days, that the ram controller on Zen+ can't handle 4 stick with such speed, I lowered the speed to 2999mhz and never faced any problems. This might seem an easy fix, but I am sure a lot of people would have thought the ram would be dead on arrival, and would not have been able to fix the problem.
I tried to buy the same kit that I had installed but they sent me a 2x8gb kit instead of a 2x4gb kit. Xmp worked fine but I wasn’t able to overclock as well as I could with the original kit.
Hi Paul. Big fan of your content! I'm looking to build a new AMD system. I've not decided between B550 or X570. My two main requirements are to use Blender for 3D modeling (creating shapes, but not much rendering) and VirtualBox. 1) Is it worth it to wait till the end of the year for 4000 series? 2) Do you have suggestions for possible components for a "modest" (sub $700) build? Thanks, (another) Paul.
Hey PAUL. i enjoy your videos alot and you one of the tech youtubers that made me get into PC's. would like to ask can one use an external hard drive as an internal hard drive for a pc? thanks in advance
There are zero issue running any modern Linux distro on Ryzen. I currently have Unraid, Debian SID and Arch all running on Ryzen machines. Graphics drivers will be the bigger issue and the answer varies depending on if its AMD or Nvidia but both are fairly easy to get working.
You can actually use SteamLink (or Steam in home streaming) with many non-Steam games (or other software) simply by adding them to the Steam library on the host system - Add a game -> Add a Non-Steam Game.
Keep up the good work. A question for your next Probing Paul: why don't you use angled power adapters in your builds to reduce cable strain and aid build cleanliness? Particularly 180 degree power adapters for GPUs and 90 degree adapters for motherboards..
Hey Paul, love your videos keep it up. Im thinkint of upgrading to ryzen from intel and just wanted to know what i need to do. Like what should i unistall/install, would i need to re buy windows? Do i/how do i uninstall the old mobo drivers? Just changing the mobo and cpu and keeping old gpu and drivers. THANKS IN ADVANCE AND KEEP UP THE QUALITY CONTENT!!!
Hi Paul! Love the content, keep up the good work! Here is my question for next probing Paul: I have been upgrading my PC for some time now and have a few used parts laying around. Do you think I would get more if I sell them individually on the used PC parts market or build a PC with them that I could eventually sell and make a higher profit? Thanks
I’m not Paul, obviously, but I have always been able to sell my leftover components for 80-90% of what I’ve paid for them! However, I’ve never been able to have enough leftover at one time to build a PC to resell. I’d imagine people would undervalue a pc more than individual components. Hope this helps, best of luck!
@@CoercedNut Thanks for your response. I would certainly buy a few parts missing to complete those build (I would get the cheaper ones to cut corners). Although, I think the other way around concerning your reasoning. I think it's easier for people to try to match the prices of a single used item than evaluate a build. My point is as long as the main components (CPU and GPU) holds, people would not be interested in listing the price of single parts and do the math. I think that's the trick that PC maker companies use to make a profit by cutting corners in cheap parts they think that buyers wouldn't be interested in such as cheap power supply, crapy fans, etc...
For the different rooms problem: I recommend a cheap ChromeOS/Linux laptop. I wiped an $89 ASUS Chromebook, gave it Ubuntu, and run SteamLink. ChromeOS has issues with cursors and ends up giving two cursors (the reason I wiped ChromeOS off and put Ubuntu), but works perfectly fine with controller games. Also, if it's a looks thing (I know people who don't want a PC by their TV), MSI makes a console looking PC.
About memory: What about channel slots? Just put the two new sticks in the unused slots and be good, whatever the two are? Or do you have to make sure that e.g. the 2 new sticks use the same channel and the old ones share a channel?
heres an idea for ya Ive literally have seen nothing on this topic and even when i google it there like a couple of forms on it lol thats it what kind of performance do you get if you put just 3 rams sticks into your pc for gaming not 2 not 1 but just 3 sticks??? there no youtube videos on this and i cant understand why???
Dude. I love this channel and your presentation. If I hadn't already subscribed, after your answer to the first question, I'd have clicked that subscribe button so hard the Ones and Zeros would have felt that shit reverberating across the void of time itself! Thank you.
What's the difference between using x8 PCI-E Slot apposed to using a x16 PCI-E Slot, does it make that much of a difference? and is there a noticeable performance hit?
Really good video dude! Like some seriously good info here that most people don't know about. Especially on the ram. That's a deep topic that most don't fully understand. (ram overclocking breaks my brain sometimes). The trace layout of the board you use matters, and the amount of ram on the stick matters IN RELATION to the trace layout e.g. dual rank sticks work better as a pair on a daisy chain layout vs 4 sticks on a t-topology board.
Hey Paul, When the virus hit I was forced to work from home so I ended up buying a prebuild HP (I got a huge discount because of work) at the time I couldn't afford a Graphics card but now some funding freed up and I would like to add one. Which leads to my questions 1. can I add a graphics card 2. I opened my computer and there are alot of cords hanging out but I am unsure if any actually connect to my power supply what is the best way to see if they are the correct cord. Additionally i am thinking to get GTX 1660 TI and here are my specs • HP ENVY Desktop PC - TE01-0150xt • 19C2 Cycle AV • Integrated Graphics • 512 GB Intel® SSD + 32 GB Intel® Optane™ memory • Intel Rother Coffee Lake H370 • No Secondary storage • 12 GB DDR4-2666 SDRAM (1 x 4 GB, 1 x 8 GB) • Nightfall Black front bezel with 400 W Internal Power Supply • Office Trial • Realtek Canary ac 2x2 +Bluetooth 5 M.2 2230 PCI-e+USB WW with 2 Antennas • Win 10 CORE • OSLOC US • DVD-Writer • 9th generation Intel® Core™ i5 9400 Processor
100% vote for more probings. I know these are somewhat easier to produce (or at least I imagine), but they're super helpful while still being entertaining. .
Some good advice, just subscribed! I knew that the RAM info was the same when I last built my computer years ago and wanted to make sure nothing had changed. (I was kinda hoping I could just slap any old DIMMS in there haha 😉) Oh man, in regards to front headphone jacks, I used to have a nice Soundblaster PCI card that had a fully integrated panel on the front with all sorts of fancy goodness. I also remember getting my FIRST soundcard so I wouldn't have to use the computer speaker for the very limited available games at the time lol. The speaker that just yells at you if you BSOD sometimes or start-up. Kids today have it so good! 🤓
Based on "current" "knowledge" would you recommend an upgrade to 3080 and Ryzen 4000? Current 3600x & 2080 super. Mainly play tarkov in 1440p and I end up with about 90-110 on medium setting with no SS enabled. Definitely a dream of to play it on higher settings while maintaining frames near the 120 cap.
19:30 The first piece of advice I'd like to offer is to never say that you can't find info on working with Linux, unless getting eaten alive by a nerd-horde is your thing. Second is to get ready to use the terminal often for things you are used to getting done with the click of the mouse on Windows, don't expect the terminal and Linux window (or X-Window) to do exactly the same thing. Much Linux support you'll find assume you know the underlying idea, pipes, regular expressions, and so on. Depending on how involved you want to be and how you prefer to learn things, you may want to try everything and see what gets broken and what works, or you probably prefer to know exactly what is it that it does before trying anything. In any case it is better to try a live installation (one that doesn't permanently modify your data) before committing to any particular distro. There can be some serious differences between them so it is better to try the ones based on the same distribution, i.e. Mint if you're trying Ubuntu, before advancing any further with the other "fun" versions you want to try. UA-cam channels that can help you depend on which one you're using, for Linux in general there's LearnLinuxTV, LinuxTex, and so on, I'd given on Linux for gaming so I can't give any advice on that, and when you get frustrated you can listen to Bryan Lunduke's rants to let off some steam.
Hey Paul love the Vid and it was helpful, but i have been thinking of upgrading my motherboard to a b550 and upgrading my CPU to a ryzen 9 3900x and i was wondering if that could cause issues with windows or other components?
Whenever I try the shift restart shortcut to reboot into the uefi, it almost aways doesn't work the first time and just reboots to windows. and then works the second time. It's very odd so I just do the delete key method which always works
Paul love the vids, you recommend b550 aorus elite in your previous 900$ build, why not the aorus pro AC, it has more number of ports and is cheaper in my country
Just to update people on the in home streaming of pc games. There is a function in steam where you can add any .exe to the program and launch it from the remote client so it’s NOT limited to just steam games.
I dumped 4x 8GB 3000Mhz (yeah, i know) onto a B450 MSI Tomahawk MAX II... works fine. Yes, I should have gone 3200 or above... but it was cheap... really cheap. And new. So.... I took it... Thats all paired up to a 5600X and a 1050 Ti 4Gb OC.... 6x 7200Rpm 640GB Seagate barracudas... For a basic sub £500 its pretty damn good. Yes, lots of re-used parts - the case, the PSU (Corsair VS550 80+).... leads. All the drives. The GFX. Still cant decide if I even want a DVD... probably not. BUT - at its core - a 5600x, 32GB, 1050 Ti.... for very little cash, this system rocks!
Was gonna get 32gb kit to add to my 16 gb kit . I couldn't find really clear answers to the question. I will wait my time n plug n play a 64gb kit . I did not know ram was so confusing. Thank you
I vote for more probing. Great video, as always. You have been my go to resource for building PC's since the Newegg days, so thanks for all the help. Also, SAN DIMAS HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL RULES!
Hey paul, this is the second question, I use Nzxt h510 and i'm confused whether i should use aio or air cooling as the air flow is not great in that case. Also will the d15 fit in it. Both the case clearance and cooler height is 165 mm Also will my ram clearance be a problem? (Gskill trident z neo 32gb) Mobo: tuf x570
Air cooling and water cooling will both give you adequate cooling. However, this case has a limit to its airflow. This case is sexy and easy to build in, but it is not a case for maximum performance. I just built my new computer and was thinking about that case because I love how it looks. Thermals wont be ice cold but they wont be an issue. Also, water cooling would require the radiator to be put in the front. This would raise the ambient temperature of the case and could potentially limit GPU performance. I wouldn't worry about this if you just want to build a computer that looks nice and do no overclocking. In your case, both figuratively and literally, water cooling would be more for the looks and could limit some overclocking of the GPU. I would do some searching online to see if people have used your case and cpu fan combo. You could have 1 mm of clearance or you might be touching the glass, there no way to find out without testing it. If you do water cooling, ram clearance is a non-issue.
Your videos always have a wealth of knowledge, keep it up. My question is about assembling the computer. I have tremors in my hand from mild nerve damage and was wondering if i should hire someone to assemble for me or if i go slow enough would i be good? (My biggest worry is cpu pins.)
Same here,fish (b12 and omega for reinsulating the nerves) and maybe glass of wine before, prepare to have everything within reach, sit down,get some music going
Thanks for the videos Paul, your videos helped me build my pc. I really appreciate it as I was very reluctant to actually build my own as opposed to buying another prebuilt.
For the memory quesiton: I have 2 kits of 2 x 16 GB 3600 Mhz sticks, and the XMP profile works perfectly with all 4 sticks with a total of 64 gb at 3600 Mhz CAS 16. (ASUS ROG Strix X570-F / R9 3900X)
i have 4 ram slots on my msi b250 board , shud i go in 4x8gb or 2x16gb configuration .. i olready have 2x8gb. all i need is 32gb ram only to work wd my i7 7700 and gtx 1060 6gb
I purchased Timetec Extreme Performance Hynix IC 16GB KIT(2x8GB) DDR4 3200MHz PC4-25600 CL16 1.35V Unbuffered Non-ECC for Gaming and High-Performance Compatible with AMD and Intel Desktop Memory (16GB KIT(2x8GB)) for a new computer using an Asus B450M-A motherboard with a Ryzen 5 1600 AF. XMP profile worked perfectly, but I was needing a little more ram. I went back to Amazon and ordered the exact same kit again. After installing the second set, XMP profiles no longer worked and forced the computer back to substantially lower memory speeds. Two sticks could run at 3200 MHz without issues, but with four sticks the best I could run at was 2400 MHz with out black screen crashing in the middle of high ram work loads. Under lower loads, I could squeeze out 3000 MHz if I was lucky that day. I did some research after the fact, and would advise people wanting to run 32 GB at XMP speeds to wait and save money to get (2X16GB) set of modules or a single matched set of (4X8GB) modules rather than buying (2X8GB) set of modules then buying another (2X8GB) module set.
i have 4 ram slots on my msi b250 board , shud i go in 4x8gb or 2x16gb configuration .. i olready have corsair vengeance lpx 2x8gb. all i need is 32gb ram only to work wd my i7 7700 and gtx 1060 6gb
@@CaptainScorpio24 Depending on how long you've had your memory kit, you might want to contact the manufacturer to see about getting memory swapped out. I contacted Timetec and as a one time courtesy, they cross shipped me a kit of (2x16GB) so I wouldn't have any down time to test and after it ran perfectly at 3200 MHz, I shipped back to them the two (2x8GB) sets I had purchased. I've had my (2x16GB) kit for a couple weeks now, and the performance boost over the (4x8GB) is very noticeable on my computer. I know it seems counter intuitive to run higher capacity ram on only half of the available slots, but depending on the motherboard support for higher frequency ram, it might be your best option. My motherboard's Qualified Vendor List or (QVL) showed better frequency support (higher limit) for 2 modules vs 4 modules. This might be different for your board, so I would highly recommend checking the (QVL) for your specific board on the MSI website before deciding on 2 modules or 4 modules.
@@davidunderwood6362 currently i have msi b250 pro vh which has 2 slots only but i hv hunted down msi h270 A pro and msi pro vdh having 4 slots for my i7 7700. its a non overclocking CPU as im nt intrested in this stuff bcz i want my stuff to last forever at stock. can yuh check and tell. im nt able to understand. on motherboard support section the QVL list on corsair brand it shows 2x slots but on some it showing 4x8..
Hi Paul, I've enjoyed your videos over the past year while planning my first gaming PC, which I built in April (white Fractal S2, Asus TUF Gaming X570-Plus WiFi, Ryzen 5 3600, Aorus Radeon RX5700XT, Noctua D15 air cooler, 16Gb Vengeance DDR4 3200). It does everything I need, gaming is great and I can stream and record Xbox and PS4 gameplay on the PC using an Elgato HD60 S+ capture card. However, video quality is below par when I record or stream games on the PC itself and I'm considering upgrading my 'old' desktop PC as a streaming PC. It's a Lenovo H50-50 (Intel i5 4460 4-core, DDR3 slots, and what seems like a bespoke Lenovo motherboard). Research suggests this is still a capable desktop PC, but I'm unsure what features a budget streaming PC would look like. It would be good if you could suggest some essential features a streaming PC would need for 1080/720 streaming on Twitch, taking the USB input from my gaming PC via the Elgato.
I think you should be probed twice a month for sure. I would suggest doing it for a couple months and seeing if it does well and figuring out after that if you want to continue. I have never asked a question on Probing Paul before but always find at least a few of the questions giving me new or at the very least interesting info. Thanks for doing them, Ryan.
Happy 50! Enjoy this channel a lot, been following you since NE days Quick aio cooler question Are there any aio one the market that route the usb and power cable up the hose back to the radiator? Seems this would allow for better cable management (thank Kyle for giving me anxiety about my cable management) These could then be routed with the fan cables to the necessary header IN THE BACK not up the mobo
Should CLC/AIO fans be configured in pull mode ( radiator outboard, fans inside) or push mode (fans outside, radiator inboard) ? Does it really even matter much in a case? I set mine up like cars, radiator to the front, fans pulling from behind. That's more efficient with a moving vehicle, but my tower doesn't move much. Thanks for your channel and vids, I'm learning a lot!
►TIMESTAMPS
0:00 Intro
1:17 How do I upgrade from 2 memory sticks to 4?
6:27 Do you need to reinstall graphics drivers after a GPU swap/upgrade?
8:57 I changed my NVIDIA dynamic range color settings to “full” vs “limited”, why do things look weird now?
12:01 Would a 2D/3D modeling/rendering PC have the same demands as a video editing PC?
14:03 Is there a cost effective means to stream a gaming PC to a TV in another room?
17:58 Do you get a lot of friend requests after showing gameplay in a video or live stream?
19:26 I need help getting Ryzen to work with Linux
20:46 Headphone users rejoice - but don’t use the front panel audio jacks
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Hey paul love the channel...really helped me build my own gaming rig :)..... to help people find ram timing it might be worth mentioning the program cpuz that how i found my exact timing got the same 16gb kit and it worked straight away
had to create another playlist to fit all the computing my day listing into , -2 , pfff , limited videos allowed in one playlist , smh
@@MAJIN_LOL You are on all the drugs if you think he will both find this amongst the 100's of 1,000's of comments, and take time out of his life to manually email you about a problem you didn't even bother to explain in even one word.
19:26 - I would be surprised if he could find a processor that didn't work with Linux. All Ryzen processors work fine with Linux. For hardcore Linux users, they have some caveats, but these issues are being ironed out with rapid development to the core Linux Kernal.
I like watching at 2x speed. Nothing like a good quick probing while on my lunch break.
0.25 speed is even more entertaining!
@Rob I have a 30 minute lunch, but it was partially over when the video dropped and I didn't want to wait until after work to watch Paul's probing.
@Rob I was thinking the same thing. 8 hours of work requires 30 min lunch and two 10 min breaks also
Nice
@@gw7477 omg this is fantastic! He's so drunk I love it!
Hey Paul - I just wanted to take minute to say thank you. It had been 20 years since I attempted to put together a PC, but after finding your page and watching several videos I decided to give it another shot. I followed your videos first in purchasing all of the hardware, assembling the system and then installing the OS and optimizing the software. By far the fastest, and most economical PC I have ever owned. To top it all off, there is something really rewarding in being able to do something slightly outside your comfort zone as well. In the end, everyone should take comfort in knowing Paul's process and instructions work. If I can do it, anyone can. The videos are excellent. Very much appreciate the time and effort and production you apply to your channel.
For God sakes Roman, put your pants back on.......😉
For the Linux question:
The fast and easy answer is: any distro that's released a version in the last 3 years will almost assuredly support Ryzen. Ubuntu, since it was mentioned, even as far back as 16.04 (the oldest version I see in any meaningful frequency these days) will support it.
The longer answer is sometime around kernel version 4.10 is when there's decent enough support for most functions/features you'd want. After that, there have been some extra things like patches for temperature monitoring, some optimizations/security fixes, etc. Zen 2 support came later, but really most popular distros should have no issue at this point. For example, I've run debian, Ubuntu, and arch on zen 2 without issues at all.
I can confirm this. I'm using Kubuntu 20.04 with a Ryzen 5 1600 and it works out of the box. A good source of information or place to ask questions on gaming on linux is r/linux_gaming.
I am on LinuxMint 20 MATE on R1600x. Got sick of my 10mins reboot time on windows... now reboots in 15 seconds.
I have a ryzen 3 2200g (with vega 8) and ubuntu 19.10 works as it should (dual boot).
I have heard though nvidia dedicated gpu's are a pain to set up because of driver support. Amd though is easy and i have heard people say its better because amd themselves have worked on the drivers. Windows 7 i think is NOT supported by new cpu's. Especially ryzen.
Also wanting to add that this support is at the *kernel* level, not the *distro* level - I'm running a 3600X using Manjaro (which is a derivative of Arch Linux, which I do not recommend trying until you get a bit more Linux experience under your belt because... sometimes things can break) and literally everything worked right out of the box. You will be able to run Ubuntu Studio with zero issues at all using any generation of Ryzen currently available.
As far as supporting "older" CPUs - as long as the CPU supports the AMD64/x86_64 CPU instruction set extension (in other words, 64-bit CPUs, which if I'm not mistaken support goes all the way back to the Pentium 4 days), it will run any recent Linux kernel.
Happy 50th Probing Paul!!!
Tyvm Deon!! 😄
@@paulshardware happy 50th my first build parts are arriving so excited
I love fancy rats good luck bro
@@defconzero its so nice just waiting for the 3080
I love fancy rats thats pretty epic for a first build
Definitely twice monthly. This is one of my favorite UA-cam series. Always informative.
wait, Isn't Bi-monthly meaning every other other month?
@@Neoplasmer I believe it could mean either, but this is his second this month. He's saying the videos are popular enough to do more frequently.
@@scoiitube woooo!
Thanks so much for answering my question! This was my first probe, and I wasn't expecting it to go so deep. I really appreciate you getting into the details. I'll absolutely take your advice into consideration when I decide to pull the trigger on a new RAM kit
The probing innuendo will never not be funny to me, I wonder if Paul ever gets tired of it
@@OrangeSoda42 I hope he still gets a kick out of it. Otherwise Paul will be going nuts by episode 100
i have 4 ram slots on my msi b250 board , shud i go in 4x8gb or 2x16gb configuration .. i olready have corsair vengeance lpx 2x8gb. all i need is 32gb ram only to work wd my i7 7700 and gtx 1060 6gb
THANK YOU for answering the RAM question. I couldnt find a straight and direct answer anywhere else ( building first PC) learning as I build upon so far on: Asus P8Z68 Gen3 - i7 2600K - AIO CoolerMaster - EVGA GTX 960 4GB - & now I know 100% when next buying RAM Corsair 4x8GB Package instead of 2x8GB now/2x8GB later because I rather not do that whole BIOS adjustment thing you mentioned. Safe to say buying 4-Pack guarantees a SMOOTH operation out the box & not stressing if adding more same RAM after is infact doing same/worse then just buying all at once
For streaming PC to remote TV: Depends what 'smart' features the TV has.
Can use a wireless-display feature (different terms depending on brand) to clone/extend PC's desktop & games etc for no extra money at all, just make sure TV is connected to same network as PC (Ethernet or WiFi, either should work).
If you want to control the PC from the TV-room, there are apps for that. Streaming media to a Smart TV can usually be done by the TV's media sharing app, again for free.
Another option is a thunderbolt cable run between the rooms and a hub on the TV-room end for connecting peripherals, can even connect the TV to that for a single-cable solution. (LTT's Linus does this in his house so they don't hear their PC cooling noises etc while they work). IDK how much that solution costs, but a single cable for screen and peripherals is likely easier than a cable for each. Price will depend on the length of the cable-run, naturally.
I have a 30-metre HDMI cable I used to use for connecting a projector over a drop-ceiling; it was cheap and worked fantastic for my use-case. I could even set an Android phone/tablet as a WiFi touch-pad/keyboard to control the PC source. Great for streaming movies, though I never tried to 'game' with such a setup!
Hope my rambling is helpful to someone :)
I've been building my own systems for a long time now, and I can honestly say that I've just learned something watching this video.
I recently bought a new setup as my old computer tanked completely. Old computer was DDR3, so this was my first experience delving into DDR4 from a build standpoint. For the new build, I bought a kit of 2x8GB G.SKILL Ripjaws V 3600 CL16-19-19-39. Went back a couple weeks later for a new video card and decided to double the RAM since that same kit was still available and on sale. Now, I'm running into timing issues with the RAM. I can get the system stable at 3200 with appropriate timings. 3600 forces the CMOS to revert, and anything between causes stability issues. I should note that this isn't running it through the XMP profiles available, as they don't work. There's other preloaded memory configurations available that I use instead.
I've checked the compatibility list for my motherboard as well (MSI X570-A Pro), and noted that the specific kit SKU isn't on the list, though it is very close to other compatible kit SKUs for G.SKILL. I was writing it off as a compatibility issue between the motherboard and the RAM, but after watching this, I'm wondering if it's because of using two dual kits, even though they are the exact same SKU. I hadn't done the XMP prior to adding the additional RAM, so I might test that out when I get home later to see if two sticks will run stable at their rated clock and timing.
Did it end up working?
@@pranaysaini6418 No, it did not.
However, yesterday I got around to upgrading my processor from a 2700x to a 5600x. Which, of course, required a BIOS update on my x570 board (I did a BIOS update when I built this system, as well). After swapping in the hardware and booting up, I went to configure the CMOS. On a lark, I tried the XMP settings. Lo and behold, both profiles were matching and at the correct timings for those kits (they weren't, previously). Just activated the XMP, and have had no issues whatsoever.
I am fairly certain since I had updated the BIOS when I had gotten the motherboard, that the BIOS update wasn't the corrective action. I believe it was an incompatibility with the memory controller either within that generation of Ryzen, that particular series or lot of R7s, or maybe just the MC within my particular CPU was crap. Either way, problem resolved.
Paul, Paul..
The Steam from PC-to-PC is called "In Home Streaming"
The Steam to a Steamlink or to a device using the Steamlink APP is Steamlink.
Steamlink is (im not sure how people dont understand this) also a fully featured Remote client. Just click the corner "Exit Big Picture Mode" and BOOM, you're staring at your desktop.
You can play ANY games via Steamlink that way. You exit Big Picture, and then just use your mouse and keyboard (plugged into your Steamlink (device or the device running the App) and open up your other game. Works fine. You can even use it to do real work, watch movies, whatever. Its a full up remote desktop experience.
The best way to do it, IMO, is an nVidia Shield TV, since itll actually support 4k. The Steamlink Hardware (discontinued) doesn't (only 1080p). The app on Android or iOS (or Raspbian, you can use a Raspberry Pi to make a Steamlink this way) has to support 4k/60 if you want it to work, which the shield does. iOS and Android devices that aren't Android TV (of which the Shield TV is by FAR the best) would have to have some way to output to your TV, of course, and generally only work over wireless.. and the AndroidTV/ShieldTV has Ethernet, which is a lot more stable.
And if your PC hardware wont hack 4k... the ShieldTVs AI upscaling is actually quite good and can be applied to games.
The ShieldTV also lets you stream your PC (full remote capability) with the nVidia In Home Streaming option if you have an nVidia GPU.
bi monthly pleeeeease. this is literally my favourite type of video.
Nice job Paul, especially on the RAM upgrade options. A lot of people skip over the XMP / timings issue when adding an identical matched 2-DIMM kit to a system that already has the exact same 2-DIMM kit and I find that the only people that tend to be aware of that issue are people that have actually run into it first-hand. You didn't go into the advantages / disadvantages of 2 vs 4 ranks (single and dual-ranked DIMMs) and 1T vs 2T command rates, which if done correctly can offer upwards of a 25% performance increase in certain workloads that are often memory bottlenecked. For example: using 4 x DDR4-3733 @ C16 T2 over Ryzen optimized 2 x 8GB DDR4-3200 @ C16 T1 can offer up-to 25% faster compression/decompression rates and up-to 10% higher frame rates in certain titles, although it can actually hurt performance in some scenarios as well. I admit that while that config requires a mild overclock and knowledge that your hardware can do it, it's beyond what 99% of people are going to want to do, or need for that matter.
i have 4 ram slots on my msi b250 board , shud i go in 4x8gb or 2x16gb configuration .. i olready have corsair vengeance lpx 2x8gb. all i need is 32gb ram only to work wd my i7 7700 and gtx 1060 6gb
There can be a lot of static between the headphone wire to the gold convertor jack to the socket, as whenever the gold socket moves it moves slightly/ would avoid that . I would buy a long cable with weaved sleeving and do the thing we do in events which you tie a twist loop knot and connect the two connect buy leads. It stops the cables pulling apart.
please never stop doing the "hall of Paul" one of my favorite parts... I know, I'm weird, no need to rub it in....
Steam Link on Android TV works pretty well if you are using Ethernet for the TV connection. You can also access the desktop too with a few tricks.
Hey Paul! Happy 50th probing! I’ve recently built a PC about a month ago that I plan on taking to college where I’ll be living on campus in dorms. What’s the best way to get a fast internet connection in the inconvenience that there isn’t an ethernet port in the room? Are pcie wireless cards (with the antennas?) better than a usb solution? How much is too much to spend on a wireless solution? That concludes my probing of Paul.
A month late but the pcie cards are more stable than usb and also you won't be limited by usb speed.
Whenever I hear probing - I always think about an ET like figure, with a very large finger looking to do the probing...... cheers 🥃
omg i just changed the nvidia colour thing from default to nvidia and full and omg its so much better thank you!
OMG i have this question yesterday, thanks for the videos i build my first pc this month following your tutorials, greetings from México
I use the front headphone jack and my music sounds just fine. i have: Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case and Gigabyte X570 AORUS PRO WIFI ATX AM4 Motherboard.
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Hey Paul I love your content. I have a question so I was planing to build a gaming pc in the next coming months and I was wondering how much of your budget should you spend on a gpu? I have a budget of $800 btw.
Amazing how the little tricks and sources fly by in the stream of knowledge. Saving entire link to vid. as to re-watch for the not currently usable knowledge. Amazing Paul, ty so much!
More Probing? Yes please.
Seriously though, I really enjoy people asking questions that I sometimes don't really think about OR times when I've had the question before and couldn't find a straight forward answer.
Since I'm here... are there any other games that you and your wife both enjoy playing separate/together aside from Overwatch?
Always feel like the content creators I watch all have this same type of outer view personality of being unbiased and very literate in their field as well as entertaining.
-Nicks Strength and Power for bodybuilding/fitness world
-Grapplr, a twitch streamer for LOR
-binging with babish for cooking
-Paul’s Hardware for pc building
I watch a lot more content creator as well for on building and video games and fitness but these 4 are always the ones I can’t miss a video of. Keep up the great content Paul!
I don't have a question, just some kind words. Happy silver anniversary on your probing. May your marriage see a silver as well! Best to the family and pat them pups for me.
I want more probing Paul. I love all the help from you and Kyle when you guys answer questions on the live show. Thank you for all your help getting me back into building my gaming computer and server.
If you're asking then I quite like the monthly format, but if it's a question of time management then obviously do what you need to anyway!
Great show Paul, would definitely watch more frequent Probing Paul. Weekly, answer 2 or 3 questions and/or high light something interesting. You definitely gave me the information and confidence to build my first and then second gaming PC in the past year. Thanks for the help!
Not sure if anyone will see this but I will post it anyways, recently I was shown that windows has mouse acceleration on by default if you go into mouse settings, then click on additional mouse options on the right side, under the 3nd tab the first checkbox "enhance pointer precision" should be unchecked. If it's checked you have mouse acceleration. This was pointed out to me and actually made a big difference gaming.
The Corsair LPX series lists speed and latencies for each model. It was a breeze to order a 2x16 that matched my 2x8. Tripling your RAM feels awesome for not to much money.
This just reminded me I did it before when I went from 4MB to 12MB... And now I feel old...
Who doesn't like a good probing, the more the better. I say make them as often as you want.
The ram question was really on point!!!
Btw ram is so cheap these days that i think buying a new kit and selling the old is the way to go
A follow up to the front & motherboard aux connector question: what audio device does a HDMI monitor use? Does it use the system for the front panel or motherboard aux connector?
HAD 2x4gb Corsair Low Porfile 3000C15 ram. Micron E die on a X370 board.
Had it overclocked to 3200 C14-18-14-16-32 48 1t
Bought a 2x8gb Crucial ballistx 3000C15 Micron A die. (identical timings, slightly better subtimings) Figure I would sell the older memory but decided I try to run both of them together.
They worked. Overclocked them to the old subtimins I had.
Surprisingly also worked flawlesslty with perceived improved timing. Decided to keep it. Glad I did, FS2020 needs more than 16gb at high+
These cheap Crucial Ballistx often go above 3466 C16 speed on modern x570 boards, but unfortunately, anything above 3266 on my x370 won't boot. Tough the thight timings I have gives better numbers than a stock loose 3600 c16 kit.
You often have margin for tightening RAM. If you have compatibility problems with 4 dims, often you only need to deal with initial memory training with XMP off to stabilize the 4 dimms, increase the voltage, disable geardown and gradually increase frequency. You eventually will be able to even overclock the ram above its stock speed.
Man between you, Linus, JAYZ2cents, and gamers nexus i learned everything i needed to know to build my own pc for the first time. Not only is my pc a beast, but i really enjoyed building it and the satisfaction of it working like a champ is great. thanks!
For the gaming in another room question: Linus has a pretty badass solution using thunderbolt 3, and Parsec is a really badass remote play program that is free.
For the long Linux question: Linux loves Ryzen! I've used Ubuntu, Pop!, Manjaro, Arch, and all work great with my Ryzen processors (2600, 3600, 3700X)
Question: I just bought the new Samsung monitor with 1440p 240hz. Will my PC with a 1080 and ryzen 7 1700 with 3.6 all-core be able to get 240fps in games on low-medium settings? Or should I upgrade to a more powerful prosessor like the 3700x?
I have a 2700X and a 1080 and 1440P and I can't even hit 144 FPS most of the time unless im on low. Sooooooooo their ya go, also it depends on the game what are you playing are you playing eSports then it'll help for sure for the cpu. That said I believe even a 1700 could saturate 240 FPS for those games. Frankly my experience is more of a graphics limitation for us in other games. Also if you don't need 8 cores you don't need a cores. Save yourself some money and go with the r5 3600.
or honestly just wait because 4000 series processors will be coming out before too long and supposedly new nvidia cards. But if you absolutely cannot wait then go 3600
Great advice and excellent!
I had 2 x 16gb 3000Mhz Corsair DIMMS and purchased 2 x 32 GB 3600 Mhz Corsair DIMMS... It didn't go well on my ASROCK X570 Taichi ATX motherboard. No sir mixing these RAMs did all sort of weird things..
- Boot Loop...
- Setting the Ram speed to 3000 Mhz in the BIOS would cause the system to boot , but on next reboot it will go into 2 boot loop and then in BIOS it would get set to 2400 Mhz.
I removed the 2 x 16gb and everything is fine now.
All for more frequent probings. Love this series.
Hi Paul, got a question regarding Windows OS performance, and how having the OS on its own separate drive can boost the overall performance of your PC. Could you elaborate on this? What this actually means in theory // How to implement it // Is it necessary on an NVMe M.2 SSD // How background app activity affects this (if at all)?
For extra context I'm planning a B550 Ryzen build with a 500GB Corsair MP600 PCIe Gen4 as the main drive with OS, personal files and main programs, then a Samsung 860 EVO SSD for working files (video mostly), plus a 4TB Seagate Barracuda for game storage. Should I be splitting up that main drive to separate the OS/files/programs?
What kind of modifications would I have to make to my chassis to make a sleeper pc?
I am probably the only person from Gen-Z who understands the reference of your 'intro'
that being: Bill and Ted's Excellent adventure, which, in and of itself, is quite an excellent adventure lol.
For BC Field Technician: Ubuntu 20.04 runs great on my ryzen machine. Ryzen5 2600, XFX RX580 8GB vid card, 16gb RAM, 500GB NVMe, B450M-DS3H mobo. I have used ubuntu 16, 18 and now 20 on that machine daily for 2 years and have not had one problem. Basically if its AMD it will run fine on linux. AMD stuff is built into the kernel so all the stuff just works automagically. Some nvidia cards have problems on some distros. There are nvidia drivers for linux though.
Very timely video. I had tried to upgrade the RAM and now it fails to boot. Black screen and fan just turns on and off like it is rebooting.
I'll out old RAM back in ...
I run Ubuntu 20.04 LTS on my Ryzen 3 2200G with and Asrock HDV rel 4.0 motherboard. It worked out of the box, no need to look for drivers. For NVIDIA drivers see my last sentence. I even run Ubuntu Studio 20.04 and an activated Windows 10 Pro in a Virtualbox Virtual Machine (VM) on the same system. Try out other discos using Virtualbox, it is easy and fast. You don't loose much performance (
Paul how’d the solar/roof installation go? Could you do a follow up on it? Interested in other brands to include Tesla.
To add some insight on the HDBaseT balun set, most will be able to do a distance of 100' extended reach will get to 100m (330') the latency is only 1-2 frames
When I upgraded my monitor I briefly lost my mind trying to get the colors to look "correct" to me. I had gone from a bog-standard panel to a 144 ips and also from HDMI to DP. When I was playing overwatch I would constantly be clicking around trying to get the "vibrant" colors I was familiar with across the board.
Turns out I was just used to looking at improperly calibrated images. Spent way too long realizing my new panel just tends to slightly yellow so bumped up the blue in nvidia and then even longer calibrating it by eye.
Thanks Paul! I literally asked myself this question last night and here you are providing me with the answer 😁👍🏼
Finally I found the answer. Had the same question about 2 to 4 ram sticks. Thank you for the very informative video.
We will probe you as often as you can take it. Always good info.
Solved the multi room pc issue with a couple firesticks, a nvidia gpu, a good wifi router, and a program called moonlight. I can stream my pc to any android device or tv in my house and the whole setup only cost me the price of the firesticks (which were freebie hand-me-downs). Wireless peripherals are obviously a must. PS4 controllers worked the best for me and went through multiple floors and walls in my home.
Time stamps FTW. 👍
I swear it feels like half of these videos are in French. But the half that I do understand is incredibly useful information. And each time I watch a video I feel like I understand a little bit more "French." It's fun!
Important for a Ram upgrade is also on which platform you are. I got a 2000series Ryzen CPU and i added also 2 stick to my existing 2 Sticks, so that I have a total of 4; they are all rated for 3200mhz speed, they are all the same type/Kit of ram, same manufacturer, same frequency, same CL, same capacity. However, I ran into stability issues when I try to run them with their DOCP Settings(or XMP as most know it(but that just on Intel, while DOCP is on AMD). My System kept crashing all the time. I remember hearing back in the days, that the ram controller on Zen+ can't handle 4 stick with such speed, I lowered the speed to 2999mhz and never faced any problems. This might seem an easy fix, but I am sure a lot of people would have thought the ram would be dead on arrival, and would not have been able to fix the problem.
I tried to buy the same kit that I had installed but they sent me a 2x8gb kit instead of a 2x4gb kit. Xmp worked fine but I wasn’t able to overclock as well as I could with the original kit.
Hi Paul. Big fan of your content! I'm looking to build a new AMD system. I've not decided between B550 or X570. My two main requirements are to use Blender for 3D modeling (creating shapes, but not much rendering) and VirtualBox.
1) Is it worth it to wait till the end of the year for 4000 series?
2) Do you have suggestions for possible components for a "modest" (sub $700) build?
Thanks, (another) Paul.
Hey PAUL.
i enjoy your videos alot and you one of the tech youtubers that made me get into PC's.
would like to ask can one use an external hard drive as an internal hard drive for a pc?
thanks in advance
There are zero issue running any modern Linux distro on Ryzen. I currently have Unraid, Debian SID and Arch all running on Ryzen machines.
Graphics drivers will be the bigger issue and the answer varies depending on if its AMD or Nvidia but both are fairly easy to get working.
You can actually use SteamLink (or Steam in home streaming) with many non-Steam games (or other software) simply by adding them to the Steam library on the host system - Add a game -> Add a Non-Steam Game.
big fan from Philippines learn to much from you channel!
Keep up the good work. A question for your next Probing Paul: why don't you use angled power adapters in your builds to reduce cable strain and aid build cleanliness? Particularly 180 degree power adapters for GPUs and 90 degree adapters for motherboards..
Hey Paul, love your videos keep it up.
Im thinkint of upgrading to ryzen from intel and just wanted to know what i need to do. Like what should i unistall/install, would i need to re buy windows? Do i/how do i uninstall the old mobo drivers?
Just changing the mobo and cpu and keeping old gpu and drivers.
THANKS IN ADVANCE AND KEEP UP THE QUALITY CONTENT!!!
Yes absolutely do Probing Paul more often... If you have quality questions, that is. If they are the same old questions, then no.
Hi Paul! Love the content, keep up the good work! Here is my question for next probing Paul:
I have been upgrading my PC for some time now and have a few used parts laying around. Do you think I would get more if I sell them individually on the used PC parts market or build a PC with them that I could eventually sell and make a higher profit? Thanks
I’m not Paul, obviously, but I have always been able to sell my leftover components for 80-90% of what I’ve paid for them! However, I’ve never been able to have enough leftover at one time to build a PC to resell. I’d imagine people would undervalue a pc more than individual components. Hope this helps, best of luck!
@@CoercedNut Thanks for your response. I would certainly buy a few parts missing to complete those build (I would get the cheaper ones to cut corners). Although, I think the other way around concerning your reasoning. I think it's easier for people to try to match the prices of a single used item than evaluate a build. My point is as long as the main components (CPU and GPU) holds, people would not be interested in listing the price of single parts and do the math. I think that's the trick that PC maker companies use to make a profit by cutting corners in cheap parts they think that buyers wouldn't be interested in such as cheap power supply, crapy fans, etc...
For the different rooms problem: I recommend a cheap ChromeOS/Linux laptop. I wiped an $89 ASUS Chromebook, gave it Ubuntu, and run SteamLink. ChromeOS has issues with cursors and ends up giving two cursors (the reason I wiped ChromeOS off and put Ubuntu), but works perfectly fine with controller games. Also, if it's a looks thing (I know people who don't want a PC by their TV), MSI makes a console looking PC.
With Steam Link you can run desktop mode and basically stream any content/game etc from host to client. (It works on Linux)
About memory: What about channel slots? Just put the two new sticks in the unused slots and be good, whatever the two are? Or do you have to make sure that e.g. the 2 new sticks use the same channel and the old ones share a channel?
heres an idea for ya Ive literally have seen nothing on this topic and
even when i google it there like a couple of forms on it lol thats it
what kind of performance do you get if you put just 3 rams sticks into
your pc for gaming not 2 not 1 but just 3 sticks??? there no youtube
videos on this and i cant understand why???
Dude. I love this channel and your presentation. If I hadn't already subscribed, after your answer to the first question, I'd have clicked that subscribe button so hard the Ones and Zeros would have felt that shit reverberating across the void of time itself! Thank you.
What's the difference between using x8 PCI-E Slot apposed to using a x16 PCI-E Slot, does it make that much of a difference? and is there a noticeable performance hit?
Really good video dude! Like some seriously good info here that most people don't know about. Especially on the ram. That's a deep topic that most don't fully understand. (ram overclocking breaks my brain sometimes). The trace layout of the board you use matters, and the amount of ram on the stick matters IN RELATION to the trace layout e.g. dual rank sticks work better as a pair on a daisy chain layout vs 4 sticks on a t-topology board.
The steam link does NOT only let you play steam games. It basically just streams the whole pc. You can even minimize steam and just use the desktop.
Hey Paul, When the virus hit I was forced to work from home so I ended up buying a prebuild HP (I got a huge discount because of work) at the time I couldn't afford a Graphics card but now some funding freed up and I would like to add one. Which leads to my questions 1. can I add a graphics card 2. I opened my computer and there are alot of cords hanging out but I am unsure if any actually connect to my power supply what is the best way to see if they are the correct cord. Additionally i am thinking to get GTX 1660 TI and here are my specs •
HP ENVY Desktop PC - TE01-0150xt
• 19C2 Cycle AV
• Integrated Graphics
• 512 GB Intel® SSD + 32 GB Intel® Optane™ memory
• Intel Rother Coffee Lake H370
• No Secondary storage
• 12 GB DDR4-2666 SDRAM (1 x 4 GB, 1 x 8 GB)
• Nightfall Black front bezel with 400 W Internal Power Supply
• Office Trial
• Realtek Canary ac 2x2 +Bluetooth 5 M.2 2230 PCI-e+USB WW with 2 Antennas
• Win 10 CORE
• OSLOC US
• DVD-Writer
• 9th generation Intel® Core™ i5 9400 Processor
Thought on 3080ti price/performance and best places to preorder from?
100% vote for more probings. I know these are somewhat easier to produce (or at least I imagine), but they're super helpful while still being entertaining. .
Some good advice, just subscribed! I knew that the RAM info was the same when I last built my computer years ago and wanted to make sure nothing had changed. (I was kinda hoping I could just slap any old DIMMS in there haha 😉)
Oh man, in regards to front headphone jacks, I used to have a nice Soundblaster PCI card that had a fully integrated panel on the front with all sorts of fancy goodness. I also remember getting my FIRST soundcard so I wouldn't have to use the computer speaker for the very limited available games at the time lol. The speaker that just yells at you if you BSOD sometimes or start-up. Kids today have it so good! 🤓
Based on "current" "knowledge" would you recommend an upgrade to 3080 and Ryzen 4000? Current 3600x & 2080 super. Mainly play tarkov in 1440p and I end up with about 90-110 on medium setting with no SS enabled. Definitely a dream of to play it on higher settings while maintaining frames near the 120 cap.
19:30 The first piece of advice I'd like to offer is to never say that you can't find info on working with Linux, unless getting eaten alive by a nerd-horde is your thing. Second is to get ready to use the terminal often for things you are used to getting done with the click of the mouse on Windows, don't expect the terminal and Linux window (or X-Window) to do exactly the same thing. Much Linux support you'll find assume you know the underlying idea, pipes, regular expressions, and so on. Depending on how involved you want to be and how you prefer to learn things, you may want to try everything and see what gets broken and what works, or you probably prefer to know exactly what is it that it does before trying anything. In any case it is better to try a live installation (one that doesn't permanently modify your data) before committing to any particular distro. There can be some serious differences between them so it is better to try the ones based on the same distribution, i.e. Mint if you're trying Ubuntu, before advancing any further with the other "fun" versions you want to try. UA-cam channels that can help you depend on which one you're using, for Linux in general there's LearnLinuxTV, LinuxTex, and so on, I'd given on Linux for gaming so I can't give any advice on that, and when you get frustrated you can listen to Bryan Lunduke's rants to let off some steam.
Hey Paul love the Vid and it was helpful, but i have been thinking of upgrading my motherboard to a b550 and upgrading my CPU to a ryzen 9 3900x and i was wondering if that could cause issues with windows or other components?
Why would that do so?
It shouldn't be any problem
Whenever I try the shift restart shortcut to reboot into the uefi, it almost aways doesn't work the first time and just reboots to windows. and then works the second time. It's very odd so I just do the delete key method which always works
Probing Paul is over the hill! Happy 50th. Just think, if you had done this twice a week from the get go, we would be celebrating the centennial!
Paul love the vids, you recommend b550 aorus elite in your previous 900$ build, why not the aorus pro AC, it has more number of ports and is cheaper in my country
Just to update people on the in home streaming of pc games. There is a function in steam where you can add any .exe to the program and launch it from the remote client so it’s NOT limited to just steam games.
I dumped 4x 8GB 3000Mhz (yeah, i know) onto a B450 MSI Tomahawk MAX II... works fine. Yes, I should have gone 3200 or above... but it was cheap... really cheap. And new. So.... I took it... Thats all paired up to a 5600X and a 1050 Ti 4Gb OC.... 6x 7200Rpm 640GB Seagate barracudas... For a basic sub £500 its pretty damn good. Yes, lots of re-used parts - the case, the PSU (Corsair VS550 80+).... leads. All the drives. The GFX. Still cant decide if I even want a DVD... probably not. BUT - at its core - a 5600x, 32GB, 1050 Ti.... for very little cash, this system rocks!
If you could make the Probing Paul a weekly show it would be very much appreciated. Thank you and keep up the good work 👍🏽
Was gonna get 32gb kit to add to my 16 gb kit . I couldn't find really clear answers to the question. I will wait my time n plug n play a 64gb kit . I did not know ram was so confusing. Thank you
I vote for more probing. Great video, as always. You have been my go to resource for building PC's since the Newegg days, so thanks for all the help. Also, SAN DIMAS HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL RULES!
Hey paul, this is the second question,
I use Nzxt h510 and i'm confused whether i should use aio or air cooling as the air flow is not great in that case.
Also will the d15 fit in it. Both the case clearance and cooler height is 165 mm
Also will my ram clearance be a problem? (Gskill trident z neo 32gb)
Mobo: tuf x570
Air cooling and water cooling will both give you adequate cooling. However, this case has a limit to its airflow. This case is sexy and easy to build in, but it is not a case for maximum performance. I just built my new computer and was thinking about that case because I love how it looks. Thermals wont be ice cold but they wont be an issue. Also, water cooling would require the radiator to be put in the front. This would raise the ambient temperature of the case and could potentially limit GPU performance. I wouldn't worry about this if you just want to build a computer that looks nice and do no overclocking. In your case, both figuratively and literally, water cooling would be more for the looks and could limit some overclocking of the GPU. I would do some searching online to see if people have used your case and cpu fan combo. You could have 1 mm of clearance or you might be touching the glass, there no way to find out without testing it. If you do water cooling, ram clearance is a non-issue.
Your videos always have a wealth of knowledge, keep it up.
My question is about assembling the computer. I have tremors in my hand from mild nerve damage and was wondering if i should hire someone to assemble for me or if i go slow enough would i be good?
(My biggest worry is cpu pins.)
Same here,fish (b12 and omega for reinsulating the nerves) and maybe glass of wine before, prepare to have everything within reach, sit down,get some music going
@@flummi6966 i will definitely have to try that once i can get the parts for my 1st computer.
Thanks for the videos Paul, your videos helped me build my pc. I really appreciate it as I was very reluctant to actually build my own as opposed to buying another prebuilt.
For the memory quesiton: I have 2 kits of 2 x 16 GB 3600 Mhz sticks, and the XMP profile works perfectly with all 4 sticks with a total of 64 gb at 3600 Mhz CAS 16. (ASUS ROG Strix X570-F / R9 3900X)
i have 4 ram slots on my msi b250 board , shud i go in 4x8gb or 2x16gb configuration .. i olready have 2x8gb. all i need is 32gb ram only to work wd my i7 7700 and gtx 1060 6gb
@@CaptainScorpio24if you can find identical ram, or similar spec ram that you have buy another set of 2x8 gb. Its cheaper.
@@Republic3D ok thanks 🙂
BTW we need a blooper reel from these probing Paul QnAs
I purchased Timetec Extreme Performance Hynix IC 16GB KIT(2x8GB) DDR4 3200MHz PC4-25600 CL16 1.35V Unbuffered Non-ECC for Gaming and High-Performance Compatible with AMD and Intel Desktop Memory (16GB KIT(2x8GB)) for a new computer using an Asus B450M-A motherboard with a Ryzen 5 1600 AF. XMP profile worked perfectly, but I was needing a little more ram. I went back to Amazon and ordered the exact same kit again.
After installing the second set, XMP profiles no longer worked and forced the computer back to substantially lower memory speeds. Two sticks could run at 3200 MHz without issues, but with four sticks the best I could run at was 2400 MHz with out black screen crashing in the middle of high ram work loads. Under lower loads, I could squeeze out 3000 MHz if I was lucky that day.
I did some research after the fact, and would advise people wanting to run 32 GB at XMP speeds to wait and save money to get (2X16GB) set of modules or a single matched set of (4X8GB) modules rather than buying (2X8GB) set of modules then buying another (2X8GB) module set.
i have 4 ram slots on my msi b250 board , shud i go in 4x8gb or 2x16gb configuration .. i olready have corsair vengeance lpx 2x8gb. all i need is 32gb ram only to work wd my i7 7700 and gtx 1060 6gb
@@CaptainScorpio24 Depending on how long you've had your memory kit, you might want to contact the manufacturer to see about getting memory swapped out. I contacted Timetec and as a one time courtesy, they cross shipped me a kit of (2x16GB) so I wouldn't have any down time to test and after it ran perfectly at 3200 MHz, I shipped back to them the two (2x8GB) sets I had purchased. I've had my (2x16GB) kit for a couple weeks now, and the performance boost over the (4x8GB) is very noticeable on my computer.
I know it seems counter intuitive to run higher capacity ram on only half of the available slots, but depending on the motherboard support for higher frequency ram, it might be your best option. My motherboard's Qualified Vendor List or (QVL) showed better frequency support (higher limit) for 2 modules vs 4 modules. This might be different for your board, so I would highly recommend checking the (QVL) for your specific board on the MSI website before deciding on 2 modules or 4 modules.
@@davidunderwood6362 currently i have msi b250 pro vh which has 2 slots only but i hv hunted down msi h270 A pro and msi pro vdh having 4 slots for my i7 7700. its a non overclocking CPU as im nt intrested in this stuff bcz i want my stuff to last forever at stock. can yuh check and tell. im nt able to understand. on motherboard support section the QVL list on corsair brand it shows 2x slots but on some it showing 4x8..
Hi Paul, I've enjoyed your videos over the past year while planning my first gaming PC, which I built in April (white Fractal S2, Asus TUF Gaming X570-Plus WiFi, Ryzen 5 3600, Aorus Radeon RX5700XT, Noctua D15 air cooler, 16Gb Vengeance DDR4 3200). It does everything I need, gaming is great and I can stream and record Xbox and PS4 gameplay on the PC using an Elgato HD60 S+ capture card. However, video quality is below par when I record or stream games on the PC itself and I'm considering upgrading my 'old' desktop PC as a streaming PC. It's a Lenovo H50-50 (Intel i5 4460 4-core, DDR3 slots, and what seems like a bespoke Lenovo motherboard). Research suggests this is still a capable desktop PC, but I'm unsure what features a budget streaming PC would look like. It would be good if you could suggest some essential features a streaming PC would need for 1080/720 streaming on Twitch, taking the USB input from my gaming PC via the Elgato.
Your vids are simply the best. A great thanks!
I upgraded 32 GB(2 16GB DIMMS) of DDR4 RAM to 40 GB (2x16 and 2x4 DIMMS) to double my RGB output.
I think you should be probed twice a month for sure. I would suggest doing it for a couple months and seeing if it does well and figuring out after that if you want to continue. I have never asked a question on Probing Paul before but always find at least a few of the questions giving me new or at the very least interesting info. Thanks for doing them, Ryan.
Happy 50! Enjoy this channel a lot, been following you since NE days
Quick aio cooler question
Are there any aio one the market that route the usb and power cable up the hose back to the radiator?
Seems this would allow for better cable management (thank Kyle for giving me anxiety about my cable management)
These could then be routed with the fan cables to the necessary header IN THE BACK not up the mobo
Should CLC/AIO fans be configured in pull mode ( radiator outboard, fans inside) or push mode (fans outside, radiator inboard) ? Does it really even matter much in a case? I set mine up like cars, radiator to the front, fans pulling from behind. That's more efficient with a moving vehicle, but my tower doesn't move much. Thanks for your channel and vids, I'm learning a lot!