He (always) missed system admins - I have a VMware test lab running on my system with 64Gb it is just enough, would like 128Gb (old system had 256Gb, but that was overkill)
@@2nd_Channel Pfff "Overkill".. A real nerd doesnt know Overkill when it comes to RAM! JK Under 128GB I would specify "Professional Editing" too, but otherwise pretty accurate.
@@2nd_Channel I do fine with my 32Gigs, but I only run pre PoCs on my machine, before deploying actual PoCs to my work's ESX hosts :> Although, nowadays I mainly focus on linux type deployements, sometimes with a Win2016 Active Directory / CAS server to see how the app react to it / can be integrated with it. So my VM RAM usage never really goes beyond 20Gigs (4 for Win2016, then at most 2 or 3 linux VMs running other things). Only problem is when I want to open Chrome and do research while my VMs run, then RAM starts to become a problem. Well, maybe my use case isn't really a full blown home lab as I move the VMs to real ESX hosts when I'm ready to deploy the PoCs, and don't really run them again afterwards on my own machine ! I'm wondering what you run on your lab setup ! . I agree on the fact that LTT always forgets us sys admins.. but at the same time, most of us know what we're doing and what we really need, so... :p
you know, i've been to various countries over the last decade and have experience with multiple languages. with all my language knowledge and flying experience, and experience with various cultures, i still couldn't find who asked.
if you're gonna get salty over a joke, get salty over anothet joke and then try to justify your superiority by trying to make me seem inferior, you should probably stay off the internet. now, i never wanted to start a fight, you've just gone and made yourself look like an 12 year old with a fortnite profile picture and an inspirational quote as a discord status. my original comment was a joke about how stupid chrome's ram usage is. its a joke. its supposed to make people laugh. when you replied with your smartass response explaining what's actually being benchmarked, all i did was reply with a probably funny response that most likely was not funny to half the people here. i was trying to avoid an argument here, when you keep trying to start one. now grow the fuck up and dont think you can try to prove a joke wrong.
I swear it's like the strong doge vs simp doge meme. My simp doge pc has 32gb of ram yet it blue screens when my mouse pointer comes within an inch of the chrome icon
6 Moon landings* in 3 years. Which, by the way, never happened. It was all faked. If it wasn't faked, then NASA wouldn't award SpaceX with a contract to create a Moon lander, it would just use the design it created (VERY successfully) in the 60's with it's moon lander spacecraft. Even all 700 original tapes are missing. The designer of the Saturn V rocket even said it possessed .03% of the fuel it takes to get to the moon. Bro, it didn't happen. Wake up.
There is one more consideration and that is based on how Windows uses memory. Basically, for Windows the only bad memory is unused memory. If you have a set of programs that you open and close often you can certainly make your desktop experience snappier (for lack of a better term) with more memory. This is why I upgraded from 16gb to 32gb. Windows just leaves files that you've opened in memory even when you close a program. It doesn't reuse that memory until it runs out, it just leaves it all in Standby mode. So if you often reopen programs your experience will be somewhat quicker with additional RAM. I don't often reboot my PC, and I use a set of common applications most often, so this works out well for me. You can easily test this yourself by checking the load time of an application, then closing it and opening it again. Unless you're starved for RAM it will always load much quicker the second time.
I remember playing it on a core 2 duo E7500, 2GB of ddr2 ram and a geforce 9500gt on Windows XP (Was completely playable but 2gb of ram in XP is about the same as 4gb in Win 10
8 GB recommended for a good Windows 10 experience. Schools: *I'm gonna pretend I didn't see that.* I'm also gonna add the fact that schools expect us to use Premier Pro on 4GB DDR3 machines with integrated GPUs.
I have witnessed one case where it makes a huge difference, when you copy and paste or move large folders full of video files, or any files of very large size. The transfer graph shown under "details" will show a lightening fast transfer, until you get to the size of your ram, then the graph will crash down, and the remainder of the transfer will take forever, at a crawl.
I think its more ram space and OS HDD space available. I tried copying a 12gb folder and for the most part the transfer creates a temporary file or something just like win rar does while decompressing a file. It depends on the file size
Yeah, I totally know what you're talkin' about when it comes to upgrading RAM. That sh*t can make a huge difference, especially when you're movin' around those big ass video files. Ain't nobody got time for a transfer that's crawling along at a snail's pace. Upgrade that RAM and you'll be flyin' through those transfers like a boss.
"It's safe to say that anything beyond this is colossal overkill." Ah, yes, my typical session of watching 3 4K videos simultaneously and having 1430 chrome tabs open.
So true story, we built a computer with 256gb of ram at my work for our 3d machine learning AI functions. The IT guy was sooo excited, lol. Manager had a slight heart attack at how much we spent on ram but it more than paid for itself. I dream of having a need for that much RAM again for my own PC.
I use 1 GiB on a work PC, do not see a good reason to use more. I can simultaneously work on multiple files, edit a PCB, debugging a program, have multiple PDFs open without using all the RAM or swapping. The only thing which may need more sometimes is the browser. . I don't understand why people need so much RAM for basic tasks.
I hit a memory limit doing some fluid sim stuff in Blender recently, at 64 GB. I'm upgrading to 96 GB this week, which I hope will be enough. I don't care about faster. This is about being able to do what I want, at all. As it happens, it's the cheapest upgrade I've ever done on this workstation, I surprisingly got a pretty good deal, so I'm not too upset about it. I almost went for 128 GB outright, and I think the next build I do will start with that, which kind of surprises me. I figured 64 GB was overkill when I built this machine, but I wasn't yet even doing 3D work back then. Now, finally, I understand what real RAM usage looks like. It's not just for VMs and browser tabs, anymore, LOL.
Sure enough I did a new build (well, partial rebuild) and went to 128 GB RAM with my new mobo and CPU. Absolutely heating my place with the fluid sims this winter.
There's real servers setup and used in production that only have RAM, using in-memory databases. Instead of having a drive (SSD or HDD), you have a separate server providing the OS and software stack image, and then everything is just run on memory, full stop. In a world of micro services and Kubernetes orchestration of dockerized containers, with multiple instances run and scaled up on the fly, this is increasingly the way things are done. Servers with hard drives and long term persistence are becoming the specialized units rather then the norm.
THIS!!! This was the exact video I needed to fully understand how much ram is necessary for anything. I kind of figured eight or 16 gigs was more than adequate for gaming and every day usage, 32 and 64 for video editing. As I’m going to be an engineer in the future, I never realized how many resources you really need to run solid works, or any of that software to account for so many variables. This video answered that question! Thank you so much, Linus tech tips! This is forever in my saves.
I thought it was, but then it doesn't seem to take into account resolution, unless I missed it somewhere. Agreed 16Gb is enough for 1080 gaming, but is it for 1440p or 4k? I've literally upgraded from 16 to 32 today, to install tonight. Largely cos since I upgraded to a 1440p monitor, my system has had stutters, yet my average FPS is >10. I'm not convinced the RAM upgrade will fix it, but I can atleast rule it out whilst I try to determine the route cause. I should mention that the issue coincided with enabling SAM, ironically as a recommendation of Linus, but now, whether disabled or enabled in BIOS, I get stutters, so again, might be the 1440p increase, or something else. But, the point I was making from the start, this video is not that meaningful without resolution indicators.
4gb of ram shame on me 8gb of ram shame on me still 64gb shame on you I got 8 used to have 4 for gaming yea you heard right for gaming I was new to PCs I’m sorry
@@rissu8573 I think you would be better off with 4 bytes of punctuation.... lol Yeah, I ran COD BO3 on 8gb, it, with a 2gb nvidia 765m.... I got a whole 13fps consistently! I think I made it to the point where I was fighting the mech with the first of my former team in it, but it was incredibly hard to dodge incoming fire in a slideshow!
16MB was a huge amount for 486 DXII-66. I had it with 4MB in 1994 and when upgraded to P-100 in jan 1996 i got 8MB. 16 MB became necessary in 1997 but i had no money and couldn't play Blood, Shadow Warrior, Redneck Rampage and Hexen 2. They required 16MB
Glados wasn't really a potato. The potato was her battery, and she was a chip running on the potato power. And so while you could overclock glados herself, it's not possible to overclock a biological being.
@@morpheas768 Actually, according to steamcharts, the current player base for Cities: Skylines is 7 times larger than Shadow of the Tomb Raider, and it even had a higher all-time peak. Also, they should be testing a variety of genres and not just 2 like in this video, to get a better representation of the RAM needs of the gaming community.
I know it's not your area of expertise but It'd be cool if there was more music making benchmarks or a video discussing what components do what in digital audio workstations. My music software takes up a massive amount of CPU and RAM usage when I'm getting towards the end of finishing a project.
I had a similar thing with some research programs, every single reviewer does benchmarks with video editing- but that is also gpu intensive and not necessarily related to what I need in any way at all 😅
I used to play cities skylines with 8gb ant it was fine... Probably bc I had 0 mods, expansion packs or updates (i played it when new) and my city was super small hahaha
@Osiris Rewoke God damn u'll be prob safe for the next 15 years mate! I got 8 gigs currently may upgrade to 16 in a year or two cuz budget. Tho it's overkill even for future proofing lol!
As a scientist, I work with at least 100GB of Memory and up to 370 GB and even more in some cases. Using thousands of cores and some of the most powerful GPU architectures that exist running 4 to 8 GPUs in parallel. In which class I belong ? XD
I'm so glad I chose a 16gb version for my laptop. It's not here yet but I am sure it will be even better than 4 gb of RAM. And that was before I upgraded it a few years back...😬
Yeah, software has become super bloated (not counting scientific and engineering software, those have always needed lots of RAM). You now need gigs and gigs for what used to only need a few megas for the same functionality.
@@Simon-jl3gy you're young, aren't you? I'm too, but I still remember having a 4 GB pendrive in elementary school and using it for years without ever coming even close to filling it up. We had a 80 GB external hard drive to save lots of stuff that couldn't fit on the 48 GB memory of the PC we had. That was 15 years ago BTW.
@@Simon-jl3gy No, GB. This was back in the 90s. I probably wouldn't even have heard the term "terabyte" at that point. It might be worth noting that the first computer we had (a Commodore VIC 20) has a memory expansion... that brought it up to 16 *kB*. :)
As a Tableau Developer 80GB dual is massive. I can run music, SQL queries, massive 75-200 GB Excel workbooks (multiple instances), Tableau, MS Teams, MS Outlook, Chrome 4-5 tabs and actually game if I wanted to with no issues. At 32GB it was "ok", but definitely had spikes semi often in usage from Tableau, SQL, Excel.
This was dropped on my bday 2020 . I was 20! Now I’m 23 this yr in 2022! Love to see a year review or wrap up of everything that released since the last year . Love from the Bay Area killafornia !
I upgraded to 16Gb my life has changed I can run my game and have other tabs open at the same time now if only I had a better graphics card like a 2070
@@jacoblyalls4026 I guess this statement realizes im getting old... i still use my Mobile Phone from high school, the Siemens MC60, It still works after 19 years, And the best part is, you can still Call people with it, what else do u need a Phone for? everything else i have my Home Computer for.
@@acmenipponair I have a skip redirect extension installed and nothing else, java is disabled (i manually enable on a per website basis then remove each when i leave the site)
Upgrading from 8 g to 32 g ram tomarow just to future proof :) planning on doing some cpu , gpu upgrades soon figured it’s gonna need just so I’m not maxing our 16 g all the time . Feel like I’m 2021 going on 32 g is going to be super nice to have
Gaming gets a little more demanding on the RAM side when mods become involved... :D Edit: My favourites are Kerbal Space Program, Minecraft, Skyrim and X3
James Clark I have a question. I was updating my bios I went from an old version to the newest one. I’m wondering if the newest update would include all the bios updates I skipped or if I had to install them one by one
@@SimonWoodburyForget yeah, mods often include high resolution textures, and detailed assets with inordinately high poly counts, etc. plus sometimes they would be very heavily built around scripts and terrains built from point data... like ArmA 3. memory usage can go through the roof, often leading to forced memory leaks if not optimized well.
@@gabe1968 generally, BIOS update packs are entire BIOS packages that are getting installed. So, while you are missing out on the intermediate updates if you haven't done them... you actually don't need them because almost always, the new update will include the latest and best features/utilities and the most stable (not really) build of the BIOS for your chip/board. Think of it like an OS install... when you install a newer version of Windows on top of your older Windows install, yes you are missing out on the intermediate versions of windows, but you won't have them anyway when you would update to the latest, so that's all good
@TheThunderGuy S that baffled me too. also, sometimes applications themselves or Schedulers or memory controllers will have a kind of memory pairing feature built into them which can be used to access 4GB of ready memory while using a 32-bit address and instruction set.
I upgraded my ram from 16gb to 32, and then to 64gb. (4*16gb Corsair Vengence Pro RGB 3600 oc to 4000) Gaming has had a little improvement but not much. However I mainly use this pc for software development work. This had a huge improvement for me, especially when doing app development and I need to run multiple simulators. Once I have a few simulators running plus a ton of chrome tabs with stack overflow and shit, my memory usage starts maxing out. Considering how cheap ram is, this was worth it for work. For gaming I wouldn’t recommend anything more than 32gb. 16gb is more than enough, 32gb if you have the budget, and wanna be overkill.
I wish these types of videos would talk about programming performance too. Upgrading from 16GB to 32GB actually gave me a pretty noticable boost when debugging massive C# projects, compiling Vuejs, and having multiple Firefox windows open all at the same time.
My computer has a 2920x, a RTX 2060S and 32GB RAM but my modpack with 65k mods eats huge ammounts of memory so I had to install a mod that forces minecraft to stay open when it normally ran out of memory.
THIS IS THE VIDEO!! Exactly what I was looking for as mentioned on another comment -> using google chrome to test out the necessities of RAM for normal day to day applications. THANK YOUUU!!!
linus is the only youtuber that ill watch the ad, because he just gets to the point and explains exactly what it does and doesn't do a stupid skit with horrible acting.
I'm gonna upgrade my 2gb desktop to 8gb, but I do not have any dedicated graphics and I have an Intel Pentium G2030 processor @3.00ghz Would it make any difference upgrading my ram? Or should I upgrade my processor too? But that's costly for me...
@@iruleyoutubeer4122 well it depends what you are using your computer for, if you are just watching videos, writing texts or documents, and playing simple 2d games, 8 gigs of RAM and that processor should be fine. But if you want to be able to play some more intense games I suggest getting either the 11th gen icore-5 or the icore-7, also upgrade to 12-16 gigs of RAM.
Also if you're getting I new processor then definitely get an Intel one. They have really good processors, but if you wanna upgrade your graphics you should get an AMD one since they focus on those.
@@ryderhermonat7663 no dude..my budget is low so I am to stick onto this specs of my PC. So no heavy gaming for me. Anyways Thanks for your reply mate. Be happy ♥️✌️
@@iruleyoutubeer4122 no problem, but if you're on a really low budget you can get an 5-8th gen icore-5 and that will work perfectly. I had one of those on my older computer and it worked really well.
Can confirm, 4GB (Technically 3.77GB) is usable on Ubuntu, the most heavy weight distro. I use Debian which idles at 650MB, making life a lot better than Ubuntu and especially windows 10
Kubuntu 14 was the last usable distro on my old old computer, which was a Phenom Quad Core with 4GB RAM (not sure if DDR2 or 3). It ran pretty well, considering the OS came out like 6 years after the computer was built. Kubuntu 15 ran on it, but it was pretty laggy.
1PB: Microsoft Flight Simulator 1TB: Datacenter-Class SAN 512GB: Mad Scientist 256GB: Scientist 128GB: CGI or VFX Artist/D-Tier Mad Scientist 64GB: Full-Time Editor 32GB: Part-time Filmmaker/Minecraft Server 16GB: Gaming/B-Tier streamers 8GB: Minimum 4GB: Lolz no 2GB: Lolz fuck no 1GB: This better be a Pi running email 0GB: ............................. *INCEPTION HORN*
wow i know this vid is way old but seeing the ad for nvidia releasing the 2000 series cards is a major throw back, today we have the 4000 series and the 5000 series almost here
One factor that wasn't accounted for is that the better the CPU the higher is its ability to utilize more ram after a certain point. For example say CPU A is twice as fast as CPU B and they have the same memory size to work with. When you double the memory buffer, CPU A will be able to crunch data (render, zip, compile, etc) faster than it did before the memory upgrade because it will spend less cycles doing secondary work as well as pretty much max out the memory each core can utilize for a given task. It will pretty much eat up all it can in order to maximize performance. Meanwhile CPU B will also scale up with the same memory upgrade but to a lesser degree since the bottleneck so to speak won't be the memory anymore, it will be the cpu alone. So in these benchmarks, as far as performance goes, you can't expect the same level of difference between 4,8,16,32,64 and so on GB of mem (measured in fps, export times, etc.) on a significantly weaker CPU (say a Ryzen 3 or an i3, i5). TLDR; the worse the CPU the smaller the difference is because your overall performance will be worse, apart from 4gb being too tight for most apps to run well. P.S. Probably should've done all tests on a budget CPU and take the average between that and the TR or showcase both for more useful info.
Running windows 98 with 128 MBs of RAM? Dang that must've been nice. I never had that much. We had a windows 95 machine, named the Canon POS, that has 16MB. That thing was so terrible its no surprised they stopped making them in the mid 90s. I think i tried running 95 on a Packard Bell that originally had 3.1. I forgot how much ram it had but it felt like windows would take like 10-20 minutes to boot up.
Had 4 MB RAM on my first PC 26 years ago (IBM 486 SLC/2-66 CPU), which was fine for Windows 3.1 and DOS 6.22 - a far cry from my current 48 GB Ryzen 5 3600...
@@abidlack1980 128mb was very very much...most pc at this time had 16mb-64mb... 32mb or 48mb or 64mb was the way to go at the 2000s... but 64mb was very mich and expensive as xxxx.... 128mb ram cost more than a full pc
Running data analysis on multi-terabyte sets used to take me about 1 hour for each pass. Dumped my two-4GB DIMMs and bought 8-32GB DIMMs (256GB).... dropped the time to about 5 minutes. The memory paid for itself in a day or two.
I have found 16 GB was hitting 100% usage gaming with a few tabs (15 max.) with a video running at 1080 in a 3 monitor setup with one 1440 monitor. when i upgraded to 32 adding 2 more sticks vs getting 2 16. I saw marked improvement. I would say 20 GB would be good but having odd numbers dont make for system improvements. So if you are looking at more of my setup I would recommend 32 which will give your system a happy little life.
dude i had 100+ tabs open with 12gb ddr3 ram and a amd processor from like 2010 and it was a lower end one that costed $80 back in 2016 2017 lmao. with 16gb on this new system i got ddr4 ram and ryzen 5 2600 easily can have roughly 150 tabs or so. 32gb i got now though damn i havent gotten near max yet lmao
Sitting on two firefox windows with 3438+519 tabs and subnautica off to one side (32gb ram, i3 6100, gtx 970a). "Hmm. Why is my CPU usage spiking so much in task manager?"
I still remember the first day when I upgraded my ram from 8 to 16GB, everything waaaayy smoother. Now with a new PC with 16GB ram, i wanna get another 2x 8GB ram to make it 32GB. good video Linus!
Running 48 GB on my Ryzen 5 3600. Not a ton of difference from 16 GB, but it's nice to have the breathing room if I require it, or if I decide to do video editing.
My dad: Gee my computer's running slow. Me: Well what are your- My dad: I'm gonna buy 64 GB of RAM. Yeah that sounds like it'll help. Me: ...Y'know go ahead.
This is one of those things that I pretty much had pegged at every point from the beginning, but was nice to see validated as I've never had a stack of various memory to actually run this test with.
16gb will be fine but if you plan on running everything smoother and planning on your video editing such as davinci resolve, if you can afford you might as well go for 32gb. I run 32 gb now and I was running 16gb for a while. I can tell the smoother difference between the two depending on what you are doing in contrast to video editing and playing video games or to just browsing.
As a gamer who doesn't want to over-buy RAM, I could find that sweet spot by finding the minimum RAM recommendation of my favorite or most RAM hungry game and add 8GB to it. I am using the shadow of the tomb raiders as an example. The "minimum" required is 8GB to run the game. So you have an additional 8GB ensure a good browsing experience for stuff running in the background. Which supports the "recommended" 16GB RAM requirement. Since the 32GB benchmarks saw no real performance improvements means that extra RAM is just doing nothing.
Been using 64GB of RAM for the past 4 years. Using Premiere Pro + Photoshop + Blender ... whatever I throw at it, I never want to experience page file trashing again. And haven't done so. Next system is going to have 256 or 512. Future proofing and you know, feels great man!
I hope that you at least watch with youtube premium or are a floatplane member. Because that is exactly why we can't have nice things, everybody wants expensive to produce content but not even watches a single add for it let alone pay a couple bucks
4gb: no
8gb: minimum
16:gaming
32: editing and streaming
64: heavy editing
128 and up: scientist and engineers
Did I summarize the video pretty well?
I'd add software development to the 32GB slot. I'd change 4gb to 'no, buy maybe for your grandma who only checks email'
He (always) missed system admins - I have a VMware test lab running on my system with 64Gb it is just enough, would like 128Gb (old system had 256Gb, but that was overkill)
@@2nd_Channel Pfff "Overkill".. A real nerd doesnt know Overkill when it comes to RAM! JK
Under 128GB I would specify "Professional Editing" too, but otherwise pretty accurate.
@@2nd_Channel I do fine with my 32Gigs, but I only run pre PoCs on my machine, before deploying actual PoCs to my work's ESX hosts :>
Although, nowadays I mainly focus on linux type deployements, sometimes with a Win2016 Active Directory / CAS server to see how the app react to it / can be integrated with it.
So my VM RAM usage never really goes beyond 20Gigs (4 for Win2016, then at most 2 or 3 linux VMs running other things). Only problem is when I want to open Chrome and do research while my VMs run, then RAM starts to become a problem. Well, maybe my use case isn't really a full blown home lab as I move the VMs to real ESX hosts when I'm ready to deploy the PoCs, and don't really run them again afterwards on my own machine !
I'm wondering what you run on your lab setup !
.
I agree on the fact that LTT always forgets us sys admins.. but at the same time, most of us know what we're doing and what we really need, so... :p
Man, as a chemist, CPU cores is where it's at
i love how chrome is a benchmark for ram usage now
In Chrome's defense they had to open hundreds of tabs for it to finally reach 16GB usage, which is completely unrealistic scenario for anybody.
you know, i've been to various countries over the last decade and have experience with multiple languages. with all my language knowledge and flying experience, and experience with various cultures, i still couldn't find who asked.
if you're gonna get salty over a joke, get salty over anothet joke and then try to justify your superiority by trying to make me seem inferior, you should probably stay off the internet. now, i never wanted to start a fight, you've just gone and made yourself look like an 12 year old with a fortnite profile picture and an inspirational quote as a discord status. my original comment was a joke about how stupid chrome's ram usage is. its a joke. its supposed to make people laugh. when you replied with your smartass response explaining what's actually being benchmarked, all i did was reply with a probably funny response that most likely was not funny to half the people here. i was trying to avoid an argument here, when you keep trying to start one. now grow the fuck up and dont think you can try to prove a joke wrong.
MJ ye
Michael Henry salt is delicious
Imagine a Threadripper and an RTX 2080 Super...
And 4GB of RAM
And only one stick (amd runs better without dual channel anyway lol)
I would rather not
My dream pc
@@edding6210 Huh I thought it was the opposite
@@Lord_Reset Ryzen always need more memory bandwidth. he is just joking
The times when 4 kilobytes of RAM were enough for a moon landing.
The times when the start of the home computer revolution started with machines that had a whopping 4KB of RAM (Apple ][, TRS-80, Pet)
128 bytes of RAM for the Atari 2600.
I swear it's like the strong doge vs simp doge meme. My simp doge pc has 32gb of ram yet it blue screens when my mouse pointer comes within an inch of the chrome icon
6 Moon landings* in 3 years. Which, by the way, never happened. It was all faked. If it wasn't faked, then NASA wouldn't award SpaceX with a contract to create a Moon lander, it would just use the design it created (VERY successfully) in the 60's with it's moon lander spacecraft. Even all 700 original tapes are missing. The designer of the Saturn V rocket even said it possessed .03% of the fuel it takes to get to the moon. Bro, it didn't happen. Wake up.
@@CelestialTrieye they sell tinfoil hats on amazon. maybe you need one
4GB: Casual
8GB: Minimum
16GB: Gamer
32GB: Streaming
64GB: Editing
128GB: Science
256GB: Redstone engineering
So what about my crappy 2GB?
@@sleepy_llt3307 potato
Redstone🤣
you guys are getting ram???
512GB: Chrome user
0:08 "apple dropped the new mac pro"
Linus, don't blame other people, we all know you're the one that dropped it.
Linus just wants everyone to forget that video exists
Elon musk approves this comment
#Linusdroptips
He obviously meant price 😀 but he dropped iMac pro. Even not him. It was Anthony
lmaoooooo
There is one more consideration and that is based on how Windows uses memory. Basically, for Windows the only bad memory is unused memory. If you have a set of programs that you open and close often you can certainly make your desktop experience snappier (for lack of a better term) with more memory. This is why I upgraded from 16gb to 32gb. Windows just leaves files that you've opened in memory even when you close a program. It doesn't reuse that memory until it runs out, it just leaves it all in Standby mode. So if you often reopen programs your experience will be somewhat quicker with additional RAM. I don't often reboot my PC, and I use a set of common applications most often, so this works out well for me.
You can easily test this yourself by checking the load time of an application, then closing it and opening it again. Unless you're starved for RAM it will always load much quicker the second time.
"CSGO can basically run on an Over Clocked Potato" I want to see this video NOW!!
Yes
No, my pc gets 10fps on menus ON AVERAGE
@@ainis3577 what Kind of shit so you have even our school pc is better edit:69 likes nice
to archive this, they have to Water Cool the Potato
I remember playing it on a core 2 duo E7500, 2GB of ddr2 ram and a geforce 9500gt on Windows XP
(Was completely playable but 2gb of ram in XP is about the same as 4gb in Win 10
Thank you for finally considering real world usage and not just sharing benchmark results!
@@blank.7253 h u h. How is this person a Karen
I agree how is he an Karen
I am super
A year later, we still dont why this person is a Karen 🗿
8 GB recommended for a good Windows 10 experience.
Schools: *I'm gonna pretend I didn't see that.*
I'm also gonna add the fact that schools expect us to use Premier Pro on 4GB DDR3 machines with integrated GPUs.
Lmfao,
Me: wips out linux machine
#root> metasploit
Me: Im about to ruin this mans whole career
🤦♂️😂
Does it even load?
Oof
The integrated gpu hurts the most
I have witnessed one case where it makes a huge difference, when you copy and paste or move large folders full of video files, or any files of very large size. The transfer graph shown under "details" will show a lightening fast transfer, until you get to the size of your ram, then the graph will crash down, and the remainder of the transfer will take forever, at a crawl.
Is that a matter of ram or of the hard drive’s cache though?
I think its more ram space and OS HDD space available. I tried copying a 12gb folder and for the most part the transfer creates a temporary file or something just like win rar does while decompressing a file. It depends on the file size
Yeah, I totally know what you're talkin' about when it comes to upgrading RAM. That sh*t can make a huge difference, especially when you're movin' around those big ass video files. Ain't nobody got time for a transfer that's crawling along at a snail's pace. Upgrade that RAM and you'll be flyin' through those transfers like a boss.
"It's safe to say that anything beyond this is colossal overkill."
Ah, yes, my typical session of watching 3 4K videos simultaneously and having 1430 chrome tabs open.
While rendering a video
Just Tuesday for me
I'd say my internet speeds are probably the most major bottle neck for this scenario.
Lol colossal being the developers of city skylines a game hungry for RAM 8GB isn't even enough, 32Gb would be better
While playing Crysis 3 on your second monitor.
So true story, we built a computer with 256gb of ram at my work for our 3d machine learning AI functions. The IT guy was sooo excited, lol. Manager had a slight heart attack at how much we spent on ram but it more than paid for itself. I dream of having a need for that much RAM again for my own PC.
what do you do? sounds very intriguing to me lol
@@falconquest7449 at the time, he probably spent atleast $1200 on ram if he was going for some of the cheapest options
@@supermasterfighter that's not what he was asking
@@supermasterfighter for 256gb? you’re smoking crack
@@ctaaaaaaa It is possible though in dd4 just don't pick the highest frequency . But it's certainly impossible for ddr5
There are 2 types of people in this world:
Those who benefit from more ram
And those that are broke
BROKE GANG!
Broke gang
BROKE.,.... even with i9 and rtx 2080, stuck on 16 gig for game dev, hurts!
Just download ram
I use 1 GiB on a work PC, do not see a good reason to use more.
I can simultaneously work on multiple files, edit a PCB, debugging a program, have multiple PDFs open without using all the RAM or swapping. The only thing which may need more sometimes is the browser.
.
I don't understand why people need so much RAM for basic tasks.
I hit a memory limit doing some fluid sim stuff in Blender recently, at 64 GB. I'm upgrading to 96 GB this week, which I hope will be enough. I don't care about faster. This is about being able to do what I want, at all. As it happens, it's the cheapest upgrade I've ever done on this workstation, I surprisingly got a pretty good deal, so I'm not too upset about it. I almost went for 128 GB outright, and I think the next build I do will start with that, which kind of surprises me. I figured 64 GB was overkill when I built this machine, but I wasn't yet even doing 3D work back then. Now, finally, I understand what real RAM usage looks like. It's not just for VMs and browser tabs, anymore, LOL.
Im doing the same for 3d rendering and to boost Viewport renders and final renders lol in blender (going from 16gb to 32gb)
Tired of seeing not responding when I go into viewport rendering I bought 2 32 plus the 16 i already had. I'm excited
Sure enough I did a new build (well, partial rebuild) and went to 128 GB RAM with my new mobo and CPU. Absolutely heating my place with the fluid sims this winter.
What kind of fluid simulation were you doing?
@@acewmd. High density gases.
Imagine having more ram than your storage
Lol
There's real servers setup and used in production that only have RAM, using in-memory databases. Instead of having a drive (SSD or HDD), you have a separate server providing the OS and software stack image, and then everything is just run on memory, full stop.
In a world of micro services and Kubernetes orchestration of dockerized containers, with multiple instances run and scaled up on the fly, this is increasingly the way things are done. Servers with hard drives and long term persistence are becoming the specialized units rather then the norm.
@@lobaxx omg wow
Yes that's called "over fabric" storage. NVMEoF. They are actually quite fast if you set it up right, zero CPU utilization and all RDMA transfer.
i actually do have more ram than my storage...
the HDD broke so im stuck with 128GB NVMe and 128GB Ram :-/
Gaming: 16 GB
Video editing: 32 GB
Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020: I guess I'm an editing software
This game is on its own league it’s not your average PC game
Y e s
i have 16gb of ram and flight sim only uses 9-12 gb in my system
@@42LGK depends on the place, I've seen it go as far as 20+ GB when flying over large cities on 4k and ultra settings
@@42LGK Expect a significant performance boost when you go to 32. Seriously, it's so much better!
0:30 Who ever censored this was VERY generous with the size of the censor.
Nah he’s just got a big pp
Where is that video from or what video is that lol
@@Flyaxyz and balls. LOL
THIS!!!
This was the exact video I needed to fully understand how much ram is necessary for anything. I kind of figured eight or 16 gigs was more than adequate for gaming and every day usage, 32 and 64 for video editing. As I’m going to be an engineer in the future, I never realized how many resources you really need to run solid works, or any of that software to account for so many variables. This video answered that question!
Thank you so much, Linus tech tips! This is forever in my saves.
I thought it was, but then it doesn't seem to take into account resolution, unless I missed it somewhere. Agreed 16Gb is enough for 1080 gaming, but is it for 1440p or 4k? I've literally upgraded from 16 to 32 today, to install tonight. Largely cos since I upgraded to a 1440p monitor, my system has had stutters, yet my average FPS is >10. I'm not convinced the RAM upgrade will fix it, but I can atleast rule it out whilst I try to determine the route cause. I should mention that the issue coincided with enabling SAM, ironically as a recommendation of Linus, but now, whether disabled or enabled in BIOS, I get stutters, so again, might be the 1440p increase, or something else. But, the point I was making from the start, this video is not that meaningful without resolution indicators.
It' Solomon Lane tech tips now
I use 64GB of RAM to fill the hole in my heart.
I know the feeling.
@@waldineytorres8578 man of culture 😌!
4gb of ram shame on me 8gb of ram shame on me still 64gb shame on you I got 8 used to have 4 for gaming yea you heard right for gaming I was new to PCs I’m sorry
1 stack of ram
@@rissu8573 I think you would be better off with 4 bytes of punctuation.... lol
Yeah, I ran COD BO3 on 8gb, it, with a 2gb nvidia 765m.... I got a whole 13fps consistently! I think I made it to the point where I was fighting the mech with the first of my former team in it, but it was incredibly hard to dodge incoming fire in a slideshow!
Linus : 4gb is bad
My laptop : 1.10gb take it or leave it
damn bro so sorry for you. what kind of laptop is that
Asus vivobook s200e
@@R3in_Ch same but mine is 600$
Keep it, it'll be an antique one day.
My phone has better ram than my whole pc lol.
Feels like Linus is taking it a bit slower. That's nice. Understand more.
He was sick so yeah
Probably needs more RAM.
@Fire & Air hhahhhahahah to cheek if he has corona
Fire & Air lmao thats great
If you speed the video up, he speaks linus language
i went from 4gb to 8gb. that feels like a massive upgrade already. All i want to do is play crusader kings 2 smoothly
looks at my 2 gigs of ram:
"don't worry buddy I'm not going to replace you anytime soon"
Trusty Frying Pan stfu
I have 3🥺
lemmee cuddle that ram..
Little RAM is asking for more siblings.
@@arpharazon999 😂
Linus: Does more ram mean better performance?
Me with 512 megabytes in my Raspberry Pi: Yes, but actually *yes*
Man the 4GB Raspberry is amazing, 60FPS in Minecraft on a raspberry pi? Yes please
@@the_darkfire0 There's even an 8GB model now!
James76931 wut brb gonna go buy a pi
James76931 alright, the pi has been ordered thank you kind sir
@@the_darkfire0 lmao i have a i3 12gb ram and i cant even run minecraft idk why i have to turn all my settings to low to get 40 fps
Linus is waving those ram sticks around like they're a Japanese fan
davidunwin more like one of those rappers waving their money XD
Let's make Linus a Japanese girl.
@@captainbark2864 Bandz of ram
@@maxlastbreath I expect someone already drew him as an anime girl in deviantart.
yeah, like give me a couple of those if you don't need them lol 😂😂
Me: *watches intently with a folder of 200+ Minecraft mods*
Laughs in too many gmod mods
These days i have 16GB ram, back when i had a 486 DXII-66 it had 16MB :D
I have 32GB today and I think my Pentium 1 had 32MB, not sure on the latter part.
I just upgraded to 32GB today
Lol 😂
I hav 8GB
16MB was a huge amount for 486 DXII-66. I had it with 4MB in 1994 and when upgraded to P-100 in jan 1996 i got 8MB. 16 MB became necessary in 1997 but i had no money and couldn't play Blood, Shadow Warrior, Redneck Rampage and Hexen 2. They required 16MB
2tb of ram? You can finally have three chrome tabs open at once.
pog
Wow so funnee haha xd great comment thanks ! I didn't get it at furrst but then i understood after a while >< XD XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
@@spazzwazzle wow funny didn't get first aswell 🤣
my chrome works fine with like 10000000 tabs with 4gb ram
@@moji3812 you lie
"Browser Ram in Chrome"
Yeah that sounds about right
more like browser ram in brave. google for me uses like 100 MB with normal usage but brave uses over 800 MB.
I had 4gb ram, had to buy additional 2 for 10 euros, just because Chrome was making my old PC go stuck.
I remember the days that pagefile swapping would bring a server to it’s knees as it spent more time swapping memory than using it.
"Overclocked potato"
GlaDOS: *triggered*
@ツZuʟғᴀнмιAzκᴀ duhh
Glados wasn't really a potato. The potato was her battery, and she was a chip running on the potato power.
And so while you could overclock glados herself, it's not possible to overclock a biological being.
if the potato was baked... would GlaDOS be high?
Homage to Bitwit
@@amandasantini6265 Not possible to overclock a biological being?
Meth. That's exactly what meth does.
Should have tested more RAM intensive games such as Cities: Skylines.
DCS in Multiplayer and VR easily exceeds 12 GB of RAM usage, as well.
I assume they didnt test it, because its nowhere near as popular as the titles they tested.
@@morpheas768 Actually, according to steamcharts, the current player base for Cities: Skylines is 7 times larger than Shadow of the Tomb Raider, and it even had a higher all-time peak. Also, they should be testing a variety of genres and not just 2 like in this video, to get a better representation of the RAM needs of the gaming community.
I can play the game with a few traffic mods with 16gb of ram. But it absolutely crashes when I install a few more mods and a few thousand more assets.
Farming sim 19 with mods uses so much ram
Please tell me I'm not the only one who's noticed Linus's voice getting deeper the longer the beard grows
Sam Urrego hormones pills will do that. the same kind that ladies who want to go man takes.
Linus of the clan TechTips....there can be only one.
Yeah he finally hit puberty.
Or because he is getting older. Ass a man your voice keeps deeper the older you get, even after puberty
its a noticeable difference my guess voice mod
I know it's not your area of expertise but It'd be cool if there was more music making benchmarks or a video discussing what components do what in digital audio workstations. My music software takes up a massive amount of CPU and RAM usage when I'm getting towards the end of finishing a project.
I know the experience.. i usually have to bounce my patterns to wav amd even delete some pugins sometimes
I had a similar thing with some research programs, every single reviewer does benchmarks with video editing- but that is also gpu intensive and not necessarily related to what I need in any way at all 😅
“You only need 16GB for gaming”
Cities Skylines: NO
it uses all of my ram so does minecraft
Planet Coaster (with a huge park) uses 15.8 of 16gb in my system.
I just say: seven days to die 🤭
Try out VRChat lmao
I used to play cities skylines with 8gb ant it was fine... Probably bc I had 0 mods, expansion packs or updates (i played it when new) and my city was super small hahaha
Professional: 64GB
Heavy User: 32GB
Gamer: 16GB
Average User: 8GB
Budget User: 4GB
Professional: 64-256GB
Rich boi: 32GB
Gamer: 16GB
Budget User: 8GB
OC Potato from 2010-2013 User: 4GB (me 7 months ago)
Potato intel HD graphics user: 2GB im sorry for these people.
@Osiris Rewoke God damn u'll be prob safe for the next 15 years mate! I got 8 gigs currently may upgrade to 16 in a year or two cuz budget. Tho it's overkill even for future proofing lol!
As a scientist, I work with at least 100GB of Memory and up to 370 GB and even more in some cases. Using thousands of cores and some of the most powerful GPU architectures that exist running 4 to 8 GPUs in parallel. In which class I belong ? XD
@@abderrahmanesemmeq9913 3020 wants you back. Time travelers need not apply
@@abderrahmanesemmeq9913 h o w i s y o u r p c e v e n s t a b l e : GOD DAMN Class
0:43 that third stick of RAM hanging on for dear life...
Good to know that 16 GB RAM is pretty much enough (for me atleast, i think), since I plan on upgrading my RAM (I currently have the typical 4 GB RAM)
so, how did the upgrade go?. i'm gonna 32gb soon cuz 16 aint cutting it
Me: How much RAM do I need?
Chrome: Yes
lmao
Games that need 16gb+: keep talking losers
it takes 32k tabs to eat up most of your ram in Firefox (if you have 32gb)
omg that's so funny
@@StimpyOfficial what games are those?
Whenever linus says “what the kids say” is exactly the opposite of what kids say.
where did he said that?
@@BlessedByAlMighty a hot min ago lmao
Idk kid but it is wha the kids say
@@mdenryu9383 This comment is so under appreciated lol
That's the joke
Going from 16gb to 32gb ddr4 2133 gave me a HUGE FPS boost in Escape from Tarkov especially in the hardest map reserve :) i7 6700k 1080 gtx
@Classic get two 16's bro
@@aciid5081 2133 only??
Gpu kinda weak
@@aciid5081
Then he lose the 2channel bonus.
4*8gb is better than 2*16gb sticks.
Linus also proved this......
2133 is bad broo, at least 2700 , i prefer 3200 mzh the best for the moment with good price
I'm so glad I chose a 16gb version for my laptop. It's not here yet but I am sure it will be even better than 4 gb of RAM. And that was before I upgraded it a few years back...😬
0:30 LInusSexTips confirmed!
Edit: To everyone who liked: thanks for looking this deep in the comments section! :D
Damn, I almost didn’t notice.
Hahaha Linus MushroomTips
I'm 69 th like
And 6:47
Oh my God 🤣🤣🤣
I remember when I couldn't understand how you'd fill a 2 GB hard drive when one of my school friends first got one, let alone RAM. Times have changed.
Yeah, software has become super bloated (not counting scientific and engineering software, those have always needed lots of RAM). You now need gigs and gigs for what used to only need a few megas for the same functionality.
You mean TB right?
@@Simon-jl3gy you're young, aren't you? I'm too, but I still remember having a 4 GB pendrive in elementary school and using it for years without ever coming even close to filling it up. We had a 80 GB external hard drive to save lots of stuff that couldn't fit on the 48 GB memory of the PC we had.
That was 15 years ago BTW.
@@Simon-jl3gy No, GB. This was back in the 90s. I probably wouldn't even have heard the term "terabyte" at that point.
It might be worth noting that the first computer we had (a Commodore VIC 20) has a memory expansion... that brought it up to 16 *kB*. :)
@@bevanfindlay Oh right, computers sure have improved since then. I thought you meant TB as the smallest RAM they tested was 4 gb
As a Tableau Developer 80GB dual is massive. I can run music, SQL queries, massive 75-200 GB Excel workbooks (multiple instances), Tableau, MS Teams, MS Outlook, Chrome 4-5 tabs and actually game if I wanted to with no issues. At 32GB it was "ok", but definitely had spikes semi often in usage from Tableau, SQL, Excel.
Thats insane
This was dropped on my bday 2020 . I was 20! Now I’m 23 this yr in 2022! Love to see a year review or wrap up of everything that released since the last year . Love from the Bay Area killafornia !
8:49 Nice job on preserving the smooth motion over cuts there, props to the editor(s).
You can easily do that by just cutting the clips first, export it, then do the smooth motion on the exported video.
@@yeoldekrabs3436 Or by just using a different sequence, no need to export
Or just add a filler on the top with the effect. Affecting the track below
I upgraded to 16Gb my life has changed I can run my game and have other tabs open at the same time now if only I had a better graphics card like a 2070
I want to upgrade to 16gb and I’m glad to here it makes a big difference:D
@@benjamin_luscombe it definitely does!
I upgraded today and couldn't believe the difference!
Im getting a 16gb ram pc on my birthday
@@NOTB333 how much did it cost?
Linus: At around 50% usage.
Editor: Actually 69%.
Me: Ah I see another man of culture.
ok
haHAA le sex number EX DEE so funnyhahaha like 420 is the WEED NUMBER HAHAH SO HILARIOUS
And 3 years later playing last of us my 16gigs of ram has reach it's limit almost 15gigs have been used on max settings
Them: "8GB is the best you should get"
Me: *cries in unchangeable laptop ram*
you don't have so-dimms? thats kinda sad though
@@sosseturner ikr. That's how cheap my laptop is
@@natsu1525 what brand
@@Abberaeitsneozm everis
Same here and more even worse I've just have about 1.5 GB ram :(
Everyone: 8GB should be enough, 16GB just to be safe.
Linus: 256GB might not be enough
He's right tho. In 3 years phones will have that much
Cries in 4GB ram
But............ that's not what he said
@@jacoblyalls4026 I guess this statement realizes im getting old... i still use my Mobile Phone from high school, the Siemens MC60, It still works after 19 years, And the best part is, you can still Call people with it, what else do u need a Phone for? everything else i have my Home Computer for.
skapunker1986 that’s insane are you gonna be using it until it stops working? Will you get a smartphone if that happens?
Thats where "The Human Eye Can Only See 8 GB Of RAM* applies
You monster
I can only smell 9.2GB of RAM
That's not true, I can see every MHz from the RAM I downloaded.
The human eye can't see above a 5400 rpm HDD, so SSDs are pointless.
16
Proud user of 32 gigs and I'd say 32 is usually enough for gpu intensive games without any low fps issues
World: Makes memes about Chrome's Ram-Hunger.
Linus: Uses it as a Benchmark Unit.
currently I have ONE chrome tab open but task manager shows EIGHT instances of chrome.exe
ive been using microsoft's edge for 3 years now.never look back.amazing browser
@@nexus7tablet610 That's normal: Every addon, also stuff like Java, is an own instance.
@@acmenipponair I have a skip redirect extension installed and nothing else, java is disabled (i manually enable on a per website basis then remove each when i leave the site)
@@aniqshardin yes bruh same with me, new edge use half the ram usage of chrome.
Linus: Hello there.
RAM: General Linus.
I don’t get it
@@mrsir9337 I think it's supposed to be a star wars reference when obi wan said "hello there" to general grievous but it still makes no sense
3:41 I love how linus argues "realistic" usage with 3 4k videos and immediately throws his on rationale out the window with 730 tabs in chrome XD
Edge cases
Sounds like a normal work day when I'm stuck on a problem, if only my machine had more RAM it would run properly with all those tabs open!
I have a huge tabhoarding problem, my current session has 4k tabs open. Thank god for the great suspender.
Like he said, clean system. A few apps running in the background can more than make up for that many tabs
but i have thousands of tabs on Firefox...
Upgrading from 8 g to 32 g ram tomarow just to future proof :) planning on doing some cpu , gpu upgrades soon figured it’s gonna need just so I’m not maxing our 16 g all the time . Feel like I’m 2021 going on 32 g is going to be super nice to have
Gaming gets a little more demanding on the RAM side when mods become involved... :D
Edit: My favourites are Kerbal Space Program, Minecraft, Skyrim and X3
James Clark I have a question. I was updating my bios I went from an old version to the newest one. I’m wondering if the newest update would include all the bios updates I skipped or if I had to install them one by one
I run a modded Space Engineers server on my client PC so my RAM goes up to 14 gb/16gb sometimes.. So I bought for a 32gb upgrade!
@@SimonWoodburyForget yeah, mods often include high resolution textures, and detailed assets with inordinately high poly counts, etc. plus sometimes they would be very heavily built around scripts and terrains built from point data... like ArmA 3. memory usage can go through the roof, often leading to forced memory leaks if not optimized well.
@@gabe1968 generally, BIOS update packs are entire BIOS packages that are getting installed. So, while you are missing out on the intermediate updates if you haven't done them... you actually don't need them because almost always, the new update will include the latest and best features/utilities and the most stable (not really) build of the BIOS for your chip/board. Think of it like an OS install... when you install a newer version of Windows on top of your older Windows install, yes you are missing out on the intermediate versions of windows, but you won't have them anyway when you would update to the latest, so that's all good
@TheThunderGuy S that baffled me too. also, sometimes applications themselves or Schedulers or memory controllers will have a kind of memory pairing feature built into them which can be used to access 4GB of ready memory while using a 32-bit address and instruction set.
I upgraded my ram from 16gb to 32, and then to 64gb. (4*16gb Corsair Vengence Pro RGB 3600 oc to 4000)
Gaming has had a little improvement but not much.
However I mainly use this pc for software development work.
This had a huge improvement for me, especially when doing app development and I need to run multiple simulators. Once I have a few simulators running plus a ton of chrome tabs with stack overflow and shit, my memory usage starts maxing out.
Considering how cheap ram is, this was worth it for work. For gaming I wouldn’t recommend anything more than 32gb. 16gb is more than enough, 32gb if you have the budget, and wanna be overkill.
0:30 so when is that 4K video going to be released? asking for a friend 😂👀
That video is already on LTT for years.
ua-cam.com/video/UVfex2bCJCQ/v-deo.html it’s actually 8k 😅😅
@@sambalekouy7298 The non-pixelated version??? 😁
Jhuny-Boy Borja They also uploaded it to Floatplane, if you want higher bitrates
@@AndreiTache Are you saying I'll need higher resolution to make out all of the... "details"???
Only had 2.55 gb of my 8 gb ram available and upgraded to a 32 gb ram that had 31.6 available.
Game changer. 10/10 decision
I just upgraded to 32GB thanks for telling me that i can have over 700 chrome tabs open, because that will be the biggest flex i can make
I wish these types of videos would talk about programming performance too. Upgrading from 16GB to 32GB actually gave me a pretty noticable boost when debugging massive C# projects, compiling Vuejs, and having multiple Firefox windows open all at the same time.
A wise man once said:
"Spend thy money on threadripper and RTX 2080 ti, but have 4GB of RAM and thy computer will die"
The poor threadripper will think its a joke until it realizes it's not April 1st.
@@seucheanemone5652 i love that extra push my 2080 ti gives man. that and coupled with my I9-9900k and 32 gb of ram and its a monster gaming rig
@@seucheanemone5652 For the value to money, I'm very happy with my 2070 Super.
My computer has a 2920x, a RTX 2060S and 32GB RAM but my modpack with 65k mods eats huge ammounts of memory so I had to install a mod that forces minecraft to stay open when it normally ran out of memory.
@Im just a dyslexic apricot I'm sorry, but how is the 9900k trash? especially for gaming
Now I know why I have to clean so much my model from time to time, I hope you can make more videos like this for perfomance
Conclusion: 16GB is a good amount of RAM
good...
enough
32GB so you never have to worry about ever running out
Just upgraded to 32 bitches
@@louislowde6348 upgraded from 32 to 1.5tb only costed a few 15k
And i only have...
2gb of ram 1333 fml... 😐
Linus: Everything from opening up Browser RAM's In Chrome.
Also Linus: I mean browser tabs
Me: No, you were right the first time
Hahahaha
😂😂
"Browser ram in chrome"......Linus snickers
Don't get the joke, thought this was a thing.
I don't get the joke, I thought this was a thing
He meant to say tabs, but instead said rams. I don’t know if ‘browser rams’ are a thing, but I’ve never heard of them
@@Guar_dian imagine using anything other than firefox
@@glutenfreegam3r177 Vivaldi. I stopped using FF when Google wrecked them. Extension apocalypse. Not cool man. Google destroying them from within.
Didn't both LTT and Jonathan Morrison hog up 1.5 terabytes of RAM with several hundred chrome tabs on the latest Mac Pro?
THIS IS THE VIDEO!! Exactly what I was looking for as mentioned on another comment -> using google chrome to test out the necessities of RAM for normal day to day applications. THANK YOUUU!!!
2:34 Jeeeeesus Linus! Save some RAM for the rest of us!
crazyd3uces he's just buying up all the ram before we're forced to go down into underground bunkers
Linus: opens 120 tabs and still manages to complain
Me with 2.2 gb ram: **dying inside**
do you have some cheapskate t6600 laptop or something?
I have 2 GB ram. My PC is 14 years old. And all my friends have minimum 16 gb! Nobody has iPhone but I have
i have 1.89gb of ram on my laptop from 2018 and it can barely handle 4 chrome tabs. i need a pc :(
@@illegallyapollo1637 that's your cpu, not your ram
@@vasoconvict ram still contributes. but ye it is probably the cpu
linus is the only youtuber that ill watch the ad, because he just gets to the point and explains exactly what it does and doesn't do a stupid skit with horrible acting.
I'm gonna upgrade my 2gb desktop to 8gb, but I do not have any dedicated graphics and I have an Intel Pentium G2030 processor @3.00ghz
Would it make any difference upgrading my ram? Or should I upgrade my processor too? But that's costly for me...
@@iruleyoutubeer4122 well it depends what you are using your computer for, if you are just watching videos, writing texts or documents, and playing simple 2d games, 8 gigs of RAM and that processor should be fine. But if you want to be able to play some more intense games I suggest getting either the 11th gen icore-5 or the icore-7, also upgrade to 12-16 gigs of RAM.
Also if you're getting I new processor then definitely get an Intel one. They have really good processors, but if you wanna upgrade your graphics you should get an AMD one since they focus on those.
@@ryderhermonat7663 no dude..my budget is low so I am to stick onto this specs of my PC.
So no heavy gaming for me.
Anyways Thanks for your reply mate.
Be happy ♥️✌️
@@iruleyoutubeer4122 no problem, but if you're on a really low budget you can get an 5-8th gen icore-5 and that will work perfectly. I had one of those on my older computer and it worked really well.
Can confirm, 4GB (Technically 3.77GB) is usable on Ubuntu, the most heavy weight distro. I use Debian which idles at 650MB, making life a lot better than Ubuntu and especially windows 10
Kubuntu 14 was the last usable distro on my old old computer, which was a Phenom Quad Core with 4GB RAM (not sure if DDR2 or 3). It ran pretty well, considering the OS came out like 6 years after the computer was built. Kubuntu 15 ran on it, but it was pretty laggy.
1PB: Microsoft Flight Simulator
1TB: Datacenter-Class SAN
512GB: Mad Scientist
256GB: Scientist
128GB: CGI or VFX Artist/D-Tier Mad Scientist
64GB: Full-Time Editor
32GB: Part-time Filmmaker/Minecraft Server
16GB: Gaming/B-Tier streamers
8GB: Minimum
4GB: Lolz no
2GB: Lolz fuck no
1GB: This better be a Pi running email
0GB: ............................. *INCEPTION HORN*
Lol I am Watching this on an Old Compaq Laptop With 512 MB Ram
48 megabytes. - garbage can
How is 8gb minimum
128GB: slightly miffed scientist...
4GB lol no
Me:Lol yes. It's workable. Just not great.
Cs:go can run on an overclocked potato at this point
Me: But I still lag
@peroh it's a meme format
@@johndevadhas4787 an overused, overdone, stale bread normie meme format
@Depthsrr You have bad internet
@peroh then how would you write it?
@@bk-sl8ee "Cs:Go can run on an overclocked potato at this point"
It's lagging on my Pc
Don't know about the RAM, but keep the beard Linus.
For sure.
Yes
@@shawndecker426 read that in locke's voice
Linus will overclock his beard.
wow i know this vid is way old but seeing the ad for nvidia releasing the 2000 series cards is a major throw back, today we have the 4000 series and the 5000 series almost here
One factor that wasn't accounted for is that the better the CPU the higher is its ability to utilize more ram after a certain point.
For example say CPU A is twice as fast as CPU B and they have the same memory size to work with.
When you double the memory buffer, CPU A will be able to crunch data (render, zip, compile, etc) faster than it did before the memory upgrade because it will spend less cycles doing secondary work as well as pretty much max out the memory each core can utilize for a given task. It will pretty much eat up all it can in order to maximize performance.
Meanwhile CPU B will also scale up with the same memory upgrade but to a lesser degree since the bottleneck so to speak won't be the memory anymore, it will be the cpu alone.
So in these benchmarks, as far as performance goes, you can't expect the same level of difference between 4,8,16,32,64 and so on GB of mem (measured in fps, export times, etc.) on a significantly weaker CPU (say a Ryzen 3 or an i3, i5).
TLDR; the worse the CPU the smaller the difference is because your overall performance will be worse, apart from 4gb being too tight for most apps to run well.
P.S. Probably should've done all tests on a budget CPU and take the average between that and the TR or showcase both for more useful info.
*“A 24 core CPU might become mainstream”*
_I’ll be dead before grandmas use 24 core processors._
she will too
@@sssddfsafsda494 There will always be new generations of grandma's. The concern is valid.
@LRN Vital 64mb ram was actually impressive for windows 95 most people had 16mb or 32mb
Man, I remember the days running 128MB on windows 98 was like revelation from 64MB.
I remember 256k to 512kb on amiga 500
@@TheAdatto i remember 64kb on a c64^^....and 16 on a vic 20
Running windows 98 with 128 MBs of RAM? Dang that must've been nice. I never had that much. We had a windows 95 machine, named the Canon POS, that has 16MB. That thing was so terrible its no surprised they stopped making them in the mid 90s.
I think i tried running 95 on a Packard Bell that originally had 3.1. I forgot how much ram it had but it felt like windows would take like 10-20 minutes to boot up.
Had 4 MB RAM on my first PC 26 years ago (IBM 486 SLC/2-66 CPU), which was fine for Windows 3.1 and DOS 6.22 - a far cry from my current 48 GB Ryzen 5 3600...
@@abidlack1980 128mb was very very much...most pc at this time had 16mb-64mb...
32mb or 48mb or 64mb was the way to go at the 2000s...
but 64mb was very mich and expensive as xxxx....
128mb ram cost more than a full pc
Running data analysis on multi-terabyte sets used to take me about 1 hour for each pass.
Dumped my two-4GB DIMMs and bought 8-32GB DIMMs (256GB).... dropped the time to about 5 minutes.
The memory paid for itself in a day or two.
The quarantine has really done wonders for Linus, overclocked his testosterone
Overclocked up to normal level.
You'd think so, but... 10:29
@@flameshana9 made me look
I was watching this video and when he said "do you,wanda, really need more ram?" My grandma yelled from the other room "what the hell is ram?"
LOL
A male sheep...
Me: i have 64 gigs of ram
linus: Are you using it for something?
Me playing minesweeper: uhhhhhh
I have found 16 GB was hitting 100% usage gaming with a few tabs (15 max.) with a video running at 1080 in a 3 monitor setup with one 1440 monitor. when i upgraded to 32 adding 2 more sticks vs getting 2 16. I saw marked improvement. I would say 20 GB would be good but having odd numbers dont make for system improvements. So if you are looking at more of my setup I would recommend 32 which will give your system a happy little life.
Why vs getting 2x16?
Hey Google, how much ram does Google need?
Google: “Yes.”
3 gb huh
bruh i only have 4 i cant even play roblox with no lag
Me: installs 132 tb of ram
Google: iS fOr Me??
@@pika3207 bruh it your Internet conection
@@justsomerandomweeb4243 yeah i know thats why i only play terraria hahahaha
"125 tabs before Chrome poops itself"
My girlfriend - "I have 105 tabs open should I be worried?"
That has to do probably with the worse processor
dude i had 100+ tabs open with 12gb ddr3 ram and a amd processor from like 2010 and it was a lower end one that costed $80 back in 2016 2017 lmao. with 16gb on this new system i got ddr4 ram and ryzen 5 2600 easily can have roughly 150 tabs or so. 32gb i got now though damn i havent gotten near max yet lmao
Neko Mystery cool story bro
Sitting on two firefox windows with 3438+519 tabs and subnautica off to one side (32gb ram, i3 6100, gtx 970a).
"Hmm. Why is my CPU usage spiking so much in task manager?"
I can open 300+ chrome tabs on Ryzen 1800x with 16gb ram and GTX 1080 with samsung pro nvme. Zero issues.
Editors: "I need the most RAM"
Engineers and Doctors: "No, I need the most RAM"
NASA: *hold my 420gb stick*
Now microwave that shit, dawg!
I still remember the first day when I upgraded my ram from 8 to 16GB, everything waaaayy smoother. Now with a new PC with 16GB ram, i wanna get another 2x 8GB ram to make it 32GB.
good video Linus!
Yes, we can!
Too bad that that next step doesn't give that same experience
@@TheAdatto yeah not much difference between 16 and 32 gigs
Running 48 GB on my Ryzen 5 3600. Not a ton of difference from 16 GB, but it's nice to have the breathing room if I require it, or if I decide to do video editing.
I remember when I upgraded 2 to 4GB. Everything felt smoother. I will be upgrading 4GB to 16GB in next week)
My dad: Gee my computer's running slow.
Me: Well what are your-
My dad: I'm gonna buy 64 GB of RAM. Yeah that sounds like it'll help.
Me: ...Y'know go ahead.
Steal all but 4 gigs, say the computer is just broken, ??? Profit
*Proceeds to install 64gigs of RAM on Intel Atom based PC
proceeds to steal several dimms from his pc
I bet your dad knows the difference between by and buy.....
Typo.
This is one of those things that I pretty much had pegged at every point from the beginning, but was nice to see validated as I've never had a stack of various memory to actually run this test with.
16gb will be fine but if you plan on running everything smoother and planning on your video editing such as davinci resolve, if you can afford you might as well go for 32gb. I run 32 gb now and I was running 16gb for a while. I can tell the smoother difference between the two depending on what you are doing in contrast to video editing and playing video games or to just browsing.
I have 16gb it was such a huge diff from 8gb. Now I’m thinking of getting 32gb. How much more frames have u noticed on certain games?
This was a pointless video, if you need more ram just download it duh!
Download link please? I'm broke and I can't afford to pay for more RAM. And please don't send me torrent seed, my pc is too slow for that crapola.
Ganesan G idk if this is a joke or not
@@ganesang5537 omg i actually spat out my coffee from laughing
@@raricoupe4020 really wish I were.
@@pj427 oh snap! I should've prefixed it with a statutory disclaimer: no food or drink while reading my comments.
As a gamer who doesn't want to over-buy RAM, I could find that sweet spot by finding the minimum RAM recommendation of my favorite or most RAM hungry game and add 8GB to it.
I am using the shadow of the tomb raiders as an example. The "minimum" required is 8GB to run the game. So you have an additional 8GB ensure a good browsing experience for stuff running in the background. Which supports the "recommended" 16GB RAM requirement.
Since the 32GB benchmarks saw no real performance improvements means that extra RAM is just doing nothing.
Future Proofing?
I have just 4gb of ram and I'm living okay while breaking a mouse or keyboard everyday
You probably would have saved more money buying 16gb of ram.
Intel cores 2 1.6ghz 4gb ram hd 600 intel I’m living large
I have a 2015 laptop with 4 GB ram and I can run a 4K video while rendering a photo and I have not had any problems
The bad thing is that i cant play warzone smoothly because i have 8gb
More ram might help with the daily rage smashing. Food for thought.
Been using 64GB of RAM for the past 4 years. Using Premiere Pro + Photoshop + Blender ... whatever I throw at it, I never want to experience page file trashing again. And haven't done so. Next system is going to have 256 or 512. Future proofing and you know, feels great man!
Roses are red
Screens give of light
When Linus says "speaking of"
I double tap right
👏👏👏
Wow.
I hope that you at least watch with youtube premium or are a floatplane member. Because that is exactly why we can't have nice things, everybody wants expensive to produce content but not even watches a single add for it let alone pay a couple bucks
😂😂😂😂
@@TheBreed010 watching a sponsor ad doesn't do anything but waste my time if I never intended to buy the product.
0:42 *Linus holding the RAM click container upside down is giving me anxiety!*
Plz no drop ;_;
🤦♂️
I was going to have a fucking stroke
"Linus drop tips joke"