Richard Stallman at UofC
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- Richard Stallman lecturing about copyright at University of Calgary on 2009-02-03. Free/Libre formats & raw footage can be found at: www.archive.org/details/200902... , as per Stallman's request. (Transcode-SR1 contains wireless mic audio.)
Thanks to Sebastian Ochmann & Antonio Bonifati for their work transcribing this video!
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Brilliant man. Real hero, real human being.
Brilliant. I've never heard Stallman speak before, but after watching this video in its entirety, I can honestly say that the man is a genius. His payment models for musicians are amazing. From what little I know of the man, I'd argue that he's a philosopher first, activist second.
starting his list at index 0 as a real programmer.
Even laws of thermodynamics start with 0.
I have been developing software applications since 1961, Stallman speaks great truths. He and his colleagues have over the years empowered education by making compilers, editors, developer tools and so on available to schools at no cost. I cut my developer teeth on these products. Hey, Richard how about rant on the so called "standards committees" comprised of people with vested interest in manipulating the requirements in the direction of their commercial sponsors.
The editing done here is great - it makes the talk flow so much more smoothly - I applaud whoever worked on it
Thank you Richard Stallman, the one who pioneered the idea of CopyLeft: "Anyone who distribute the SW must pass along the freedom to further copy and change it".
And what really happens is that a) people don't do it and nothing happens or b) people don't use the code, to begin with.
Thank you for editing the video and cuting out all the long pauses Richard likes. This kind of editing is long and tedious, thank you for completing it.
Thank you Mr. Stallman. It have cleared a lot of confusion I had. And I agree with you about convenient payment system.
Brilliant. I found his views insightful, well intended and rational. Perfectly suited for the world we live in today. Especially his model for copyright, and the need to reduce it's reach to areas where it would be sensible, or even recommended.
Please see all of this. It is one of the most important lectures on ethics you likley ever see. It is about your own personal liberty and the liberty of your loved ones.
Good quality of sound and good quality of the video... and of course great speaker !
Thanks for bringing this video to us !
as a web developer i find a lot of stallman's ideas very interesting. i have always been a believer in giving power to the individual through openness of information, but it seems like today the individual is not interested in "information" as we once defined it, they are more interested in putting all of THEIR personal information online for the world to see... in particular, the generation graduating today. to not have an online presence is akin to never having been born.
I have the same reaction Stallman did in the beginning...
@Renegen1 Original footage can be found at Internet Archive, if you want to listen/watch a version with pauses intact. Search archive - dot - org for : Richard Stallman UofC
Great video, Gordon. Thank you for posting it.
OMG I love to listen to him!
Awesome RMS's speech on Copyright vs Community! My favourite topic! Thanks 4 uploading!!
With them trying to push through the wicked SOPA act (aka kill the internet act), it shows how true what he was saying here is. He foresaw that this was the ultimate progression, that taking away rights in the area of copyrighting would lead to bigger rights being taken away, and he was right!
I'm a developer, and after hearing this, and seeing the developments with this SOPA act, I'm intent to only produce Open Source software.
This is POWERFUL stuff. I never knew the O.S. idea ran so deep!
@thunderpheonix33 : I don't see why. I'm a programmer and a designer myself and I don't see why anyone would be out of a job if copyrights were abolished. There will always be high demand for both custom programs and custom designs and no amount of free software and designs would change that.
@nbtrap Richard Stallman and many other people have proved that this can be done...he has written some awesome programs that need lot's of time and imagination in order to be accomplished and gives them away for free...
Agreed! He is on another plane--and it's a good plane to visit or live on. I chose to walk that path and I would never choose otherwise.
Absolutely wonderful!, Excellent !
"People who don't lend books to their friends aren't friends" Haha awesome!
Richard Stallman is awesome.
I like how he differentiates between different kinds of things and not put everything into the same pot (Around 0:48:00).
Thank you for posting this vid great FREE
Richard Stallman is one of the greatest persons in this world in my opinion! :)
Great editing.
Why make separate video version? Send the text file so they can be inserted as an option to this very video.
Thank you very much for uploading, Stallman tells his argument very well
I used to have the AACS key on a t-shirt with "Hex Offender" written on the back.
@egadw The same video is posted to Internet Archive which transcoded it to Ogg Theora. Stallman insisted the video be available in an open format.
I've posted it to UA-cam too so people not already familiar with the arguments for free software have an opportunity to actually hear what he has to say.
Great video!
@TeslaKaniv
Yes, in Revolution OS, iirc, Linus says that Stallman is the great philosopher and he is the great builder.
I tried to reply a 2nd time (sometimes my UA-cam comments seem to hang when I click [post comment]) pointing out that I was wrong, the actual date was 2009-02-03 and I can see it when I click [edit] but not on the normal video page. So yes, I'll update the description with the date.
It seems someone heavily edited this video (albeit just to remove Richard's pauses) but it makes it hard to follow at times
Anyone have a link to the original... unedited? I appreciate listening to lectures in their raw form more than someone's version of control on the event. I don't care how gordonmcdowell WANTED to hear the lecture.. I would like to experience it in a similar way the audience did.
Justin Namespolicy
He started the talk explaining he didn't use a script. I took that to mean he was using free to rambleware. Listening to casual conversation when it is off the clock can be very tiring.
He was still talking as the audience was walking out the door.
Yeah, this looks to be cut
Michael Butler yeah, so? Are you focusing on the technical aspects or the message itself? Which do you think is more important?
Dean Smith the message itself
I like this guy.
Would you be willing to send me the source video for this so I can put the video up with Spanish subtitles?
Internet Archive has the original from which I assume all needed open source codecs were generated. I see Ogg Video there.
@LordZozzy Those aren't typically made available to customers.
You Tube should make it possible to edit the close captioning because the auto-captioning does murder to the speech.. It should be possible to stop the video at any point and edit the captioning directly, and then continue playing.. In this way it would be possible for the hearing impaired to understand more conveniently what is being said. Also a wiki style version of the script should be available, with timing markers so that proofreading can be done quickly.
Amazing talk. What's the deal with the occasional odd editing? Thanks for uploading!!!!!
question for stallman: what does any of this have to do with vietnam?
great video. glad to see something finally bumped the clip of rms eating foot cheese as the first result when searching his name.
Well edited. It seems like he speaks without pauses, but there were apparently many of them.
@gordonmcdowell I think assemblyassembly means that there's a lot of cuts in the vid. It kind of annoyed me, but otherwise a great video. I learned a lot :D
@DaluZwasUnavailable I edited out pauses so it was shorter. Not everyone likes that approach, so I've turned it down from eleven to ten in my later video projects. Thanks for the feedback.
@vokuheila I don't understand. Please explain.
I wonder how much time RMS spend for talking than to code software?
@claudiomarpi I used MACHINE TRANSCRIPTION to create VERY flawed English subtitles. You should be able to now select MACHINE TRANSLATION to show Italian. It will be very glitchy though. If anyone can help fix transcriptions or translations, give me your email I'll send you a copy of the machine transcription file.
That which forces you to use it should have the responsibility to provide it to you. Your company, school, university, whatever it is.
2009-02-05, the date the upload is stamped with. (Ooohhhh... didn't see that did ya?) -g
GREATEST MAN ALIVE
That wire clipped to the podium: Nostril Cam
i wish i could go back to 2009
@inscrutabledirt : In this age of blogging, copyright on journalism is a major restriction as well. With regards to scientific documents, the peer review process should be sufficient protection. I don't see the need for copyright at all.
@egadw Well I'd never tried HTML5 UA-cam before, and it appears to work for me, even for this Richard Stallman video. It did take a little LONGER to start playing than my other shorter videos.
Well now I finally know what HTML5 UA-cam looks like.
@worknman2k Why anybody would want to use closed source software?
Thank god, I thought I was loosing my mind for a minute there. I was just curious where he got that name.
this is a great goddamn talk.
Despite Stallman's good point regarding the term 'intellectual property' I would really recommend people read Against Intellectual Property by Stephan Kinsella - it is great.
What is he talking about when he says "The negative effects of using proprietary software on the community"?
I can't find the question that an audience member raised about Stallman selling items at the event. I thought his rebuttal was one of the best parts!
Love Stallman.
Very nice. Very. Nice. Thank you.
Does Stallman anywhere announce that he uses a particular social medium?
I never said anything about supporting patents. But the producer should be free to give there product with as much drm as they would like, provided there wasn't any laws garnering modifying the product to subvert DRM. RMS wants to reduce freedom for the producer.
Stallman, you're awesome. I really enjoyed this video.
When we get the ability to copy hardware almost as easily as we can copy information and culture today, no one will have to protect their sole rights to produce and sell certain hardware, because it will be available to everyone, which means price goes down to near zero, and everyone can have as many copies they wish, and so that will be the end of scarcity and poverty. Why we have not started on that when it comes to things we *can* copy today is a mystery to me.
Sometimes it isn't. Here for example there is an hospital that delivers clinical data in a proprietary format and you don't have the freedom to examine them (or let other doctors do the same) without installing a proprietary software. But the patient hacked his data...
artisopensource(dot)net(slash)cure
gotta respect a man that cares so little about his appearance, even to the point of making it distracting.
Stallman and his antics...
12 years later, SaaS has since taken off, mostly because it's so profitable but partially because vendors maintain databases that would be impractical to update yourself. There's no GNU GPL way to get the latest traffic and weather data from a private party, for example. I don't have the answer...
Was this video edited? There're quite a few places where it seems to have been edited..?
or censored
There are constant complaints about the editing. All the raw footage including decent audio (as a camera audio track) is available at Internet Archive. As I note in the description. With a direct link.
To resolve this issue upload an unedited copy to UA-cam. That takes more effort than simply complaining about it, but you can do it! Be a hero!
Also you do not need to watch this via UA-cam. IA has viewing mechanism just watch unedited capture.
I think the editing is done really well, so far (at ~@14:00 )
Towards the end of the video he states that he is not for open-source, yet what is Linux?.. is it not an open-source operating system?
I want a dollar button on this video
If I'm free to alter and distribute software as I see fit, then shouldn't I be able to strip the GPL off of code and distribute it as closed source? Isn't that a freedom of mine?
"I don't know how it could possibly provide the now dead authors of those times more incentives to write more works back then."
Cracked me up
@Uprightfan Monopolies only benenfit those who own monopollies. Can we agree on that?
I think he makes a very valid point by suggesting to limit copyright to a shorter duration.
I think 5 years would be enough for the vast majority of authors.
Evem if he would be wrong about one thing (which he isn't) it doesn't mean he's wrong in general.
But I must admit his line of thinking is pretty different from what we've been tuaght, which is why so many of us may object at first.
It's a bit ironic, that we are using a proprietary piece of software to see this clip :P
@Uprightfan Now the reasons corporations extend copyright for future works as well is partially because even though the benefit is small it is easy to do (they got the courts to do it for past works so what makes future works different?) However, it is also partially because corporations have potentially unlimited lifetimes while authors do not. But the main problem here is you fail to distinguish between his statements about worth for corporations and worth for authors and past and present work
How do I help? I don't have much money right now but I do have a LOT I can contribute. How do I do this?
Dean Smith What exactly do you want to help with?
Dean Smith You do NOT NEED MONEY to help, money if anything HARMS this movement, you need brains, you need to use free software, distribute it and, the extra brains part, create it!
I misread the title for a second as "Richard Stallman at UFC".
lol at 1:36 what a foul disgusting beautiful genius you are mr. stallman
Ths video is not available in your country.
The FSF actively and explicitly recommends against the use of licenses which do not allow commercialization.
I suggest you go to the GNU website (this page specifically /licenses/license-list.html) and educate yourself.
@inscrutabledirt : Just for the record, I object to both "copyleft" and "copyright". Both severely limit whatever someone can do with someone else's creation and as such limit progress. To me, freedom implies the lack of restrictions and this I find in various licenses (MIT, Apache, BSD, MPL, LGPL, ...) but NOT in the GPL.
what's macos ten?
GNU plus Linoxx or is it GNU Slash Linoxx Richard? When Hurd is working as nicely as the Linux kernel you could call it GNU OS :)
@inscrutabledirt : The problem is that I want EVERYONE to be able to use my code if they feel like it, whether they want to use it for proprietary applications or free applications. It is precisely by being free for EVERYONE that frameworks like Zend or JQuery became so popular among hobbyist programmers and companies alike. Unlike the MIT or BSD license, the GPL code does not grant me that option and thus I feel limited to using only code released under MIT, BSD or similar licenses.
What the hell is going on? lol. I replied to DrDorian25...do you have different accounts or something because I'm confused.
I'd like to interject if that's OK :P
You seem to forget that the original author had the choice to choose the license. If he chose a copyleft license then indeed he takes away your freedom to distribute non free modifications. Being free to do that though could only lead to one thing: more others being restricted.
It's basically a choice between giving the people that aim to restrict users freedom or the users freedom. The answer is pretty obvious.
Great genuine speech directly from the horses mouth !
17 record publishers watched this video.
RMS has a myopic prescription.
There is a difference to end users. With source code freely available, people will know about malware bits, and warn others and make forks that don't have malware. You're also not subject to vendor lock-in (all your free programs will run on any OS) and you won't suffer from mistargeted DRM. You also benefit indirectly from other developers contributing to a free software project because they have access to the source code. More contributors means better code, and a better end-user experience.
I support open source (Stallman doesn't like that term or support it) but anyway my pay cheque directly comes from my work with open source. However for all software being free, I don't understand how that would work with games and mobile apps. There are plenty of free "as in beer" apps in the mobile market, but that isn't free as in speech. The motivation to write an app can be to generate a source of income. Some apps might not get written without that motivation.
There has been a pull towards and away from his vision, but it seems slowly something closer to his vision is winning lately, Linux on everything but desktops and android on mobile.
It took me a while to get his joke about attacking a ship at 52:54. I guess I'm not the only one, because only one person in the audience laughed. hahaha
I'm sorry, but I have to downvote this for being cut. I do love Mr. Stallman
A person like you does not get, that when a product HITS the the market, it DOESN'T MEAN that you are automatically ENTITLED TO IT!