I can see Triumph selling loads of these 400 singles. It looks like a decent little bike at a great price point and to be honest it would make a great second bike for commuting or winter riding. Great solid review. Nice job Dan 👏 😊
I dno about commuting with all the bare metal exposed, roads are so salty and it will just look awful, cant beat a scooter for commuting, no chain that needs constantly cleaning after one ride in the salty rain, and take pressure washer to it and its pretty clean in 10 mins lol
Great to see that it has cast wheels instead of spokes, also great to see that it has a half decent front mudguard. I'd buy the Scrambler not because I want to go off road, but because I'm 6'2" tall. Well done Triumph.
I got a Tracer 9 and a BMW G310R (which I share with my son).........got to say its fantastic having one bike for longer rideouts, and a zippy little fun machine for running about and back road fun!
Cast wheels and tubeless tyres - excellent! I wish Triumph would fit tubeless tyres on the T100 and Scrambler 900 - with or without the spokes . Lacing spokes for tubeless tyres would add cost to the Scrambler 400, which is clearly 'price sensitive'..... but they would be more cost effective on the 900.
Picked my speed 400 up today and I can’t fault it. Did 75 miles with a mix of country lanes and motorways and it handled it all fine and averaged 76mpg 😊😊
I have this bike in India and yes, that’s bit of a problem. I fact, was the first thing I pointed to the sales guy. Another concern is a relatively small fuel tank which can be a concern if planning longer rides.
LCD shouldnt even be a thing on bikes. It is complete shit. You have to stare at it and adjust your focus to read it, and in the sun you can hardly see it at all. Anything that makes you look away from the road is crap. You dont need to look directly at clocks. I hate LCD with such passion that I will never buy a bike that doesnt have clocks. Which sort of narrows it down lately.
Here in NZ it’s $9000 vs Honda’s new 500cc scrambler which is $14,000. I know they are completely different machines (single vs parallel twin etc etc) but the Trumpy is pretty appealing, especially at that price
Thank you for the great review. I am looking forward to mine arriving in Alabama. We have lots of rain and flooded roads so this video was helpful. I plan to deliver bacon samples to my customers in my area. Keep the great videos coming and Bacon On!
@@Englishbikerdan the Triumph accessories I like are the small windscreen, center tank pad, luggage rack, and the high mud guard. Not sure if upgraded seat is worth the expense, but it does look sharp. I want both the upper and lower engine bars. Still not sure if the upper one comes with the bike. The reviews from India say that it does. I still can’t get a straight answer on that. I also like the bullet style turn lights. Again not sure it’s worth the add on price. Luggage has been a big thought and I believe the Mosko Moto Reckless 80 will solve all my needs with a Triumph specific Cruz Tools kit in the Fatty Tool Roll. For Navigation I will be using the REVER App with my IPhone on a Quad lock mount.
Hi I rode both the new 400’s a couple of weeks ago the speed 400 was a bit low for me But the scrambler I found just right the engine was a bit vibey higher up the rev range but the bike had only covered 170 miles so engine probably a bit tight Great review thanks H S
Triumph 400 is a winner a very good-looking retro-modern bike. This will sell like hotcakes. Many will buy a second run-around bike. It doesn't look chunky but light and nippy. This bike will appeal to all ages.
Awesome Dan! -plus 3 here now but still two feet if snow. Will test the mini Speed 400,but for now (as a Speed Twin 1200 owner) I’m not focused on the lower end. The new Tiger though….
No need to head to Spain for the launch Dan, love that you have just picked up at the dealer awesome 🤩 love that it’s water cooled and not just oil and air cooled like another brand. Looks the part 👍 think I need to head to my dealer and grab one. These will be popular for triumph for sure
Great video overall! For daily commuting, between the 400X & the Interceptor, which one do you think is better set out of the factory? Stay strong, ride on!
I rode an Interceptor when they first came out. lovely engine but just couldn't get on with the riding position. Felt I was on it not in it if you know what i mean? Yet to ride the 400X....
Nice review - I think that seat looks very much like the Scrambler 900 one - which I had a few years back and was not great on longer trips (numb bum at 100 miles), so I'm hoping it isn't the same. Can see me buying one though, as long as I can get my gammy leg over the thing. edit: can also recommend the ultimate phone case - I have one but a clamp broke off after a while so I got the Quadlock one as replacement. The Ultimate case was far better (with an S9).
Great bike great video. I have not ride it yet but sitting on it at a bike show and i felt that 24:03 the bars is very high to the sitting position on the seat. Felt strange. Im not a shorty and never feel that on my Triumph Tiger 900. Whats your take on that? .
I so wanted to like this bike but after a test ride yesterday I think I'm going to ask for my deposit back. It looks great, the engine is punchy for a 400 single but i just didn't like the front end. The suspension felt overly firm to the point of being uncomfortable on Britain's broken roads and it felt slightly heavy steering as though an oversized front tyre was fitted. I found the throttle sensitive just off idle but that's all too common on todays bikes desperately trying to hit emission targets. Ultimately the bike felt as though development was only 90% complete and it had a slight unfinished, rough feel to it. Next one for to try will be the new Himalayan, perhaps that's going to be my next bike.
@@BikingChap regarding your thoughts on the suspension I disagree, I think the suspension is really perfect for a “budget” bike in fact it’s better than most of the bikes I’ve owned. I can’t fault it. I’m 77kg and it seems like a custom suspension tune. But I’ve never ridden cruiser bikes so can’t compare there.
@@chrro466 That's fair enough, different folk will have different views but I'd strongly suggest you try a Z400/500, that has a sublime chassis for a small / cheap bike.
I have long legs and I think the scrambler would be bdrter for me, but i don't like the plastic handle bar protectors, much prefer the 400 speed handlebar layout.
Hello! But do you feel any issues yet. Though the product is great. Here in India many owners are having issues like Stalling, RPM Fluctuations on idle, Alloy bend, Engine noise. And Brand here are not acknowledging it fully. We would like to here if any issues there. I know its too soon for you to feel as pretty new rides.
If you find the grips short, that definitely seems to be a thing with some manufacturers, I have a zontes zt310 and that is literally just as wide as my medium sized man hand, with no spare
I was hoping you would mention how it compares to the Honda 500 scrambler, I’m also 5’7” with a 29 inch inseam and would love the Triumph scrambler but am wired about the seat height, do you think the triumph is the superior bike?
It's a long way to fall, but if your over 6ft youll be used to that at slower speeds, I've had lots of practice over the years. Funny how tall people always find the highest paving slabs in the street. 😂
@@Englishbikerdan thanks and you share the same opinion about speed 400 vs husky? I can get a barely used 2023 husky for a grand cheaper than speed 400. And I’m 6 feet 2 so the higher seat on the husky is better for me also.
Would be a nice commuter for my daily work trip from Bournemouth to Southampton. I really wish bike reviewers would stop saying a bike has character, if their cars were doing it it would be running rough and feel broken🤣
Nothing wrong with character and vibes on a motorcycle. I've had plenty of big singles and have never been annoyed by vibrations......even on long trips.
I wouldn't compare bikes with cars. In 50 years of riding I've had plenty of bikes with character, what is not the same as having problems. A bland bike doesn't stay with me for long.
@@Englishbikerdan yeah but the point I'm making is what people call character is just a lack of damping which causes vibration etc. And that wouldn't be acceptable in a modern car would it, if your BMW 4 series made your fingers, feet and bum go numb you wouldn't call it character would you
It’s going to be a hell of a lot less than those bikes. This is a street bike and tuned for it. The 300L and Dar650 are off road bikes that are shoe horned into street duty. The KTM is just the Duke which is a street bike, but KTM makes and tunes everything to run at extremely high revs in order to get the power so when in such a light small frame you feel it. This Triumph should feel a hell of a lot more refined than most single cylinder bikes.
I toured long distance on the CRFRally it was ok for stretches in the tens of thousands of km i did on it..i want to do the same on the 400X....i also toured on the DR650 long distance and it was noticeably less refined. Hoping to test ride the 400X i put a deposit on this week and see myself@@thegreenman2030
I had the Honda for 3 years and if she had more torque and also 40 hp I would never have sold her. It's the most nimble bike, pretty much a 125 with a big engine, great for town use. I sat today on the speed, and it felt like the little fat cousin, but have to ride her first to get to a conclusion.
Peak power is at 8K rpms ... no the overrev limiter is not 12000. I did audio analysis of another video revving at the limiter, it's 9100 (despite the display probably claiming 10K)
why triumph does not offer the same split grab handles of scrambler 400x that is sold in India , why is the same speed 400 grab handle is given any particular reason?
or the RE Scram 452 but RE are going to have to put it on a diet to compete on weight with either in your shortlist. Scram 411s only a few kg lighter than Himmy 411 so it might still be lardy compared to the 400x or the Huskie 401 when it finally arrives. Adjustable suspension on the '24 svartpilen might swing for me [i like my 390 adv suspenders even if the looks leave me cold]. Test rides will tell. Some 400x reviews claim harsh suspension and heavy handling, some the opposite so i guess I need to book a day out of work for back to back demo rides to make my own opinion when its dryer/warmer. oh the sacrifices we all make 😊
@@sp33d35I would say that the 400x handles better than the drz400sm, different size front wheels. The 400x is less twitchy at higher speeds and is absolutely perfect for spirited highway city commuting.
As a 5' 5" and a 'smidgey' bit not so tall guy ( never forget that smidgey bit 😂 )..I will never understand..'WHY' do people think 5' 8" is 'short'. That's 'our' word..leave it out 😂😂😂😂😂...average more like. Loved the video all the same. Subscribed 👍🙂
5 foot 7" and a smidge and only 29" inseam [long body] but my parents paid for the Napolean complex addon when I was commisioned. I pity those string beans that are forced to ride r1200GS, larger KTMs and Ducati DesertXs just to stop themselves looking like circus clowns on normal bikes 😊 I sat on a 400x in the, feels easily managable compared to my current 855mm seat KTM 390 adv. as weight is light/low.
@@sp33d35 I'm a 29 inseam too and found the scrambler 400 well within my reach, nice bike, I have one on order. Thanks for joining in the fun banter today. 🙂👍
Wheel size, brake size tyre size and brand, sprocket size difference, handlebar difference, suspension difference (extra 1cm travel), seat is two piece, exhaust end can difference - Is all that worth £600 difference? maybe. I dunno.
If I had a situation where I could get significant offroad use - yes. As it is where I would be completely on-road - no. I will bet though the scrambler outsells the Speed because it looks cooler.
agree. kinda. depends on what type of offroad you do and where. Most offroad bikers prefer lower down pull and lower wet weight over everything else. The 400x seems to win on those counts based on Indian reviews but I cant validate that myself. I will try both. The RE has a bigger front wheel and i think more travel neither really make much difference for my type of mild green laning [grass, mud and tractor ruts. If you want a faired ADV or need to traverse rocks the Himmy is gonna have an advantage. Personally, I would take the lightest bike that was a best fit for where i will [if honest to myself] will spend most time (potholed B roads, back lanes and the occaisional BoAT twin track when curious/lost). oh and tubless tyres. too old to faff around with tubes miles from anywhere.
I'm not sure if the service intervals are a bit of a smoke screen thing, given I personally would not be leaving the oil in for a year or if you are riding a shed load and get to the 10,000 miles in less than a year, say 9 months, same applies, would you really trust it for that length of time or milage, OK fully synthetic oil might be OK but I feel most owners would change it and the filter at no more than 5,000 😉
I'd do it every 3,500 just like a car, regardless of what the manual says. Probably gonna wanna clean the air filter and lube/adjust the chain at least that often, so might as well do oil and filter at the same time.
These new Triumph 400s seem nice but I have a serious bone of contention - no centre stands! Royal Enfield has managed to get them on every platform in its range, why can't Triumph?
It's to maintain the road clearance. Giving a centre stand will eat into it which wouldn't make it much of a scrambler on Indian roads with speed breakers. They might offer it as an accessory.
@@Sahu6492 most adventure bikes and many scramblers (including other Triumph Ccramblers) have a centre stand option - this doesn't seem to. The Scrambler 400X has less ground clearance than a Himalayan 411 or 452 - the Himis come with a centre stand.
Personally, I dont get the appeal of centerstands. They make sense on a long distance tourer or adventure bike where you expect to be doing a lot of maintenance on the side of the road. But on a low maintenance, lightweight bike like this I don't see the point? When you're out and about the kickstand works fine and when you're at home doing maintenance twice a year, you can just use a bike stand in your garage.
It looks good, but I am not a Triumph fan even though they are English. Despite being a patriotic type, I'd rather have a Fantic Caballero Scrambler 500 [449cc]. It also looks better than this Triumph to me. I'm keeping my KTM 390 Duke Mk 2. Lighter than the Triumph. Superb handler. It's my second bike in Chiang Rai behind my Yamaha SCR950. Although, I use my Yamaha Aerox 155 twist and go on a daily basis. Good review, Dan. Nick
Limiter is approx 9100 rpms, I did audio check on another video hitting the limiter. You would think that knowing the peak power is at 8K would make the presenter realize the overrun limiter is not 12k.
All the 400X test are on tar....does'nt anyone go OPFFROADS ?i.e. gravel roads ? What about engine protection when falling down ? C'mon someone...give us an OFF ROAD test !!!
Sorry but watching you ride a new bike with no respect of the fact it hadn’t been run in made me cringe!!!! I wouldn’t be surprised if if you find trouble getting dealerships giving you future bikes.
Ah, that's just ruined it for me. 845mm seat height?????? on a 400???? Just because it's supposed to be a "scrambler". 800mm is my max for my leg length. I'm not going to all the hassle of getting one of these things lowered just because it's a "scrambler". USELESS. Make a lower seat height version Triumph!!!! And I mean THIS bike, not another stupid feet forward 'cruiser' version of it. I'm not interested in cruisers, I like THIS bike
Alex if I was you I'd go and have a sit on one. The seat height is actually 835mm and I like you usually prefer a seat height max of 800 but I could touch the floor no problem 🙂 which surprised me. The street does have a lower height of 790 mm. 🙂
It got 835mm of seat height 901mm of width of handlebars 195mm of ground clearance 150mm of suspension travel manufactured by a company called endurance in India.
@@Englishbikerdan Just checked the speed 400. Looks identical (cool!) So what's with the different seat height??? different suspension settings? frame and seat are the same.... ???
Actually, this bike is a choice. Honda NX(?)500, Transalp……..I live in the mountains and, whilst there are some open roads that need accounting for, it’s the tracks that beckon. This bike needs to be taken off road for a sizing I think. Otherwise it’s a fun commuter on current assessment.
Speed 400 vid coming soon. SUBSCRIBE so you don't miss it! NOTE: This bike also has 4-piston calipers, not 2 as I mention here.
I can see Triumph selling loads of these 400 singles. It looks like a decent little bike at a great price point and to be honest it would make a great second bike for commuting or winter riding.
Great solid review. Nice job Dan 👏 😊
I dno about commuting with all the bare metal exposed, roads are so salty and it will just look awful, cant beat a scooter for commuting, no chain that needs constantly cleaning after one ride in the salty rain, and take pressure washer to it and its pretty clean in 10 mins lol
Yup in India in middle weight motorcycle class the scrambler 400 was second behind the royal Enfield 350 only
Great to see that it has cast wheels instead of spokes, also great to see that it has a half decent front mudguard. I'd buy the Scrambler not because I want to go off road, but because I'm 6'2" tall. Well done Triumph.
Love the "Legend" comment re the R1 wheelie. Respect sir. Always quality reviews and my first port of call.
I got a Tracer 9 and a BMW G310R (which I share with my son).........got to say its fantastic having one bike for longer rideouts, and a zippy little fun machine for running about and back road fun!
Nice one, a good little bike collection there! Enjoy!
Cast wheels and tubeless tyres - excellent! I wish Triumph would fit tubeless tyres on the T100 and Scrambler 900 - with or without the spokes . Lacing spokes for tubeless tyres would add cost to the Scrambler 400, which is clearly 'price sensitive'..... but they would be more cost effective on the 900.
Cracking looking machine and a cracking first ride review Dan! This is what I strive for my reviews to look like 🤣🤣
Picked my speed 400 up today and I can’t fault it. Did 75 miles with a mix of country lanes and motorways and it handled it all fine and averaged 76mpg 😊😊
sat on one when I bought my 660, very very nice bike
It’s such good bike for that price point, but the tachometer should’ve been the analogue clock and the speedometer the lcd.
Yeah that's a good point, in fact once said it seems blindingly obvious 😉
Yes, I thought exactly the same thing. Weird choice by Triumph on the dash design.
I have this bike in India and yes, that’s bit of a problem. I fact, was the first thing I pointed to the sales guy.
Another concern is a relatively small fuel tank which can be a concern if planning longer rides.
You don't even need a tach on such a low strung single, so I'd rather have the larger speedo.
LCD shouldnt even be a thing on bikes. It is complete shit. You have to stare at it and adjust your focus to read it, and in the sun you can hardly see it at all. Anything that makes you look away from the road is crap. You dont need to look directly at clocks. I hate LCD with such passion that I will never buy a bike that doesnt have clocks. Which sort of narrows it down lately.
These smaller capacity scramblers really appeal to me and this is the first Triumph I’ve ever liked the look of 😎👌🏻
Here in NZ it’s $9000 vs Honda’s new 500cc scrambler which is $14,000. I know they are completely different machines (single vs parallel twin etc etc) but the Trumpy is pretty appealing, especially at that price
Thank you for the great review. I am looking forward to mine arriving in Alabama.
We have lots of rain and flooded roads so this video was helpful. I plan to deliver bacon samples to my customers in my area.
Keep the great videos coming and Bacon On!
What an amazing use case! Bacon delivery. So cool. 👌
@@Englishbikerdan the Triumph accessories I like are the small windscreen, center tank pad, luggage rack, and the high mud guard.
Not sure if upgraded seat is worth the expense, but it does look sharp.
I want both the upper and lower engine bars. Still not sure if the upper one comes with the bike. The reviews from India say that it does. I still can’t get a straight answer on that.
I also like the bullet style turn lights. Again not sure it’s worth the add on price.
Luggage has been a big thought and I believe the Mosko Moto Reckless 80 will solve all my needs with a Triumph specific Cruz Tools kit in the Fatty Tool Roll.
For Navigation I will be using the REVER App with my IPhone on a Quad lock mount.
Hi I rode both the new 400’s a couple of weeks ago the speed 400 was a bit low for me
But the scrambler I found just right the engine was a bit vibey higher up the rev range but the bike had only covered 170 miles so engine probably a bit tight
Great review thanks
H S
you can turn abs off the back & keep traction control on or you can turn both off to the back wheel by switching to off road mode.
Triumph 400 is a winner a very good-looking retro-modern bike. This will sell like hotcakes. Many will buy a second run-around bike.
It doesn't look chunky but light and nippy. This bike will appeal to all ages.
Awesome Dan!
-plus 3 here now but still two feet if snow.
Will test the mini Speed 400,but for now (as a Speed Twin 1200 owner) I’m not focused on the lower end. The new Tiger though….
Skoda 'Labia' 😂 you slipped that one in, Dan..
I'm definitely getting one . The black one looks amazing 👍👌
Thank you for giving us Imperial and metric measurements - not all of us can relate to metric.
No need to head to Spain for the launch Dan, love that you have just picked up at the dealer awesome 🤩 love that it’s water cooled and not just oil and air cooled like another brand. Looks the part 👍 think I need to head to my dealer and grab one. These will be popular for triumph for sure
I would have jumped at the chance mate, but alas it fell on deaf ears! :D
Thats a pretty bike!
Finally a bike for someone with a 35inch in seam. Only took me a week to find it. 🙄
Thanks for the up Dan!
Seems to be a great little bike this one. And scramblers seem to be quite suitable for the British country roads this winter.
Great review Dan. I hope those ridiculous warning stickers all over the top of the tank peel off.
I like it, looks better in the matt green. No spokes but I prefer to have tubeless tyres.
Another Indian reviewer mentioned the vibrations too. Especially the sudden switch from smooth to buzzy at around 6000rpm.
It's a single cylinder after all
Your reviews are always on point and the scenery is amazing.
Thanks!
Great video overall!
For daily commuting, between the 400X & the Interceptor, which one do you think is better set out of the factory?
Stay strong, ride on!
I rode an Interceptor when they first came out. lovely engine but just couldn't get on with the riding position. Felt I was on it not in it if you know what i mean? Yet to ride the 400X....
Finally a triumph actually worth buying unlike the others that are completely overpriced.😎👍
Nice review - I think that seat looks very much like the Scrambler 900 one - which I had a few years back and was not great on longer trips (numb bum at 100 miles), so I'm hoping it isn't the same. Can see me buying one though, as long as I can get my gammy leg over the thing. edit: can also recommend the ultimate phone case - I have one but a clamp broke off after a while so I got the Quadlock one as replacement. The Ultimate case was far better (with an S9).
Great bike great video. I have not ride it yet but sitting on it at a bike show and i felt that 24:03 the bars is very high to the sitting position on the seat. Felt strange. Im not a shorty and never feel that on my Triumph Tiger 900. Whats your take on that? .
I agree with you , I’m getting a lower profile bar to fix that
So many reviews of the Scrambler 400x but almost none on the speed 400.
Tomorrow. 👍
Thank you.
Very nice bike and two spoked wheels would be an excellent addition to this reasonably priced bike.
I love it.
Thank you.
I hate not being able to show you a photo from wintery Sweden. I will bw able to ride in April!
The USD forks are made by a company called Endurance atleast for the Speed 400 3:51 not sure about the Scrambler
I so wanted to like this bike but after a test ride yesterday I think I'm going to ask for my deposit back. It looks great, the engine is punchy for a 400 single but i just didn't like the front end. The suspension felt overly firm to the point of being uncomfortable on Britain's broken roads and it felt slightly heavy steering as though an oversized front tyre was fitted. I found the throttle sensitive just off idle but that's all too common on todays bikes desperately trying to hit emission targets. Ultimately the bike felt as though development was only 90% complete and it had a slight unfinished, rough feel to it. Next one for to try will be the new Himalayan, perhaps that's going to be my next bike.
Fair enough, always good to test and get what's best for you.
@@chrro466 many of the indie testers are remarking on it, it needs a serious rework. If it happens to work for you, that's great.
@@BikingChap regarding your thoughts on the suspension I disagree, I think the suspension is really perfect for a “budget” bike in fact it’s better than most of the bikes I’ve owned. I can’t fault it. I’m 77kg and it seems like a custom suspension tune. But I’ve never ridden cruiser bikes so can’t compare there.
@@chrro466 That's fair enough, different folk will have different views but I'd strongly suggest you try a Z400/500, that has a sublime chassis for a small / cheap bike.
If you took a pillion would you need to increase the spring load and if so how easy would that be?
I have long legs and I think the scrambler would be bdrter for me, but i don't like the plastic handle bar protectors, much prefer the 400 speed handlebar layout.
I thought it does have rider modes?
Love it 😀
Hello! But do you feel any issues yet. Though the product is great.
Here in India many owners are having issues like Stalling, RPM Fluctuations on idle, Alloy bend, Engine noise. And Brand here are not acknowledging it fully. We would like to here if any issues there. I know its too soon for you to feel as pretty new rides.
@4:26 is that already rust on the disc? Looks like it.
Rust on discs can happen on any bike overnight. Not an issue.
If you find the grips short, that definitely seems to be a thing with some manufacturers, I have a zontes zt310 and that is literally just as wide as my medium sized man hand, with no spare
I’ve been waitinggggg💪🏼
I was hoping you would mention how it compares to the Honda 500 scrambler, I’m also 5’7” with a 29 inch inseam and would love the Triumph scrambler but am wired about the seat height, do you think the triumph is the superior bike?
It's a long way to fall, but if your over 6ft youll be used to that at slower speeds, I've had lots of practice over the years. Funny how tall people always find the highest paving slabs in the street. 😂
in south korea,
400x (5070 usd)
honda cl500(5300 usd)
which is better?
Buy this or the 2024 Svartpilen 401? Hmm.
How would you compare it to the husqvarna svartpilen 401 I’m considering both of them but can’t make up my mind.
It's been a while but the Husky was more agile but a little less refined.
@@Englishbikerdan thanks and you share the same opinion about speed 400 vs husky? I can get a barely used 2023 husky for a grand cheaper than speed 400. And I’m 6 feet 2 so the higher seat on the husky is better for me also.
Would be a nice commuter for my daily work trip from Bournemouth to Southampton. I really wish bike reviewers would stop saying a bike has character, if their cars were doing it it would be running rough and feel broken🤣
Nothing wrong with character and vibes on a motorcycle. I've had plenty of big singles and have never been annoyed by vibrations......even on long trips.
@@jimmyjam8795 but you wouldn't put up with it in a car.
I wouldn't compare bikes with cars. In 50 years of riding I've had plenty of bikes with character, what is not the same as having problems. A bland bike doesn't stay with me for long.
Let's be honest, bikes are not always a sensible form of transport with our weather. Character makes it enjoyable for me.
@@Englishbikerdan yeah but the point I'm making is what people call character is just a lack of damping which causes vibration etc. And that wouldn't be acceptable in a modern car would it, if your BMW 4 series made your fingers, feet and bum go numb you wouldn't call it character would you
What gloves are those and are they warm?
So its 30inch from the inside leg till the ground barefoot right? Just to clear the definition of inseam. And whats ur shoe size uk? Thanks
I have 31" and get barely both feet flat-footed on the speed, no way you can do it on the x.
Are the motorway vibrations the same as a KTM390 or Dr650 or CRF300? Ie: the same as most other single cylinder bikes? thanks
It's lesser
It’s going to be a hell of a lot less than those bikes. This is a street bike and tuned for it. The 300L and Dar650 are off road bikes that are shoe horned into street duty. The KTM is just the Duke which is a street bike, but KTM makes and tunes everything to run at extremely high revs in order to get the power so when in such a light small frame you feel it.
This Triumph should feel a hell of a lot more refined than most single cylinder bikes.
@@thegreenman2030 The vibrations in the top end, closer to 100Kmph is similar to what the Duke 390 has.
Makes sense same bore and stroke and manufacturer@@Sahu6492
I toured long distance on the CRFRally it was ok for stretches in the tens of thousands of km i did on it..i want to do the same on the 400X....i also toured on the DR650 long distance and it was noticeably less refined. Hoping to test ride the 400X i put a deposit on this week and see myself@@thegreenman2030
Endurance (India) make the fork and shock.
Thanks for the info!
Dan,
As you have road tested both:
Triumph 400 or Honda CB300R ?
Speed 400.
I had the Honda for 3 years and if she had more torque and also 40 hp I would never have sold her. It's the most nimble bike, pretty much a 125 with a big engine, great for town use. I sat today on the speed, and it felt like the little fat cousin, but have to ride her first to get to a conclusion.
Peak power is at 8K rpms ... no the overrev limiter is not 12000. I did audio analysis of another video revving at the limiter, it's 9100 (despite the display probably claiming 10K)
I just went by what the dash would indicate on the tacho, but obviously not a scientific method! Cheers for the info, good to know.
looks cool & sounds cool. speedo is a bit naff though.
Cheap bike, cheap speedo, I guess.
why triumph does not offer the same split grab handles of scrambler 400x that is sold in India , why is the same speed 400 grab handle is given any particular reason?
Hi Dan, would you recommend this bike as an entry level ride? I’m 194cm so I need to also consider that. Thanks a lot
Absolutely.
Berkshire roads?
Yes indeed.
I'd like to see a comparison of this bike with the new 2024 Husqvarna 401
or the RE Scram 452 but RE are going to have to put it on a diet to compete on weight with either in your shortlist. Scram 411s only a few kg lighter than Himmy 411 so it might still be lardy compared to the 400x or the Huskie 401 when it finally arrives. Adjustable suspension on the '24 svartpilen might swing for me [i like my 390 adv suspenders even if the looks leave me cold]. Test rides will tell. Some 400x reviews claim harsh suspension and heavy handling, some the opposite so i guess I need to book a day out of work for back to back demo rides to make my own opinion when its dryer/warmer. oh the sacrifices we all make 😊
@@sp33d35I would say that the 400x handles better than the drz400sm, different size front wheels. The 400x is less twitchy at higher speeds and is absolutely perfect for spirited highway city commuting.
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As a 5' 5" and a 'smidgey' bit not so tall guy ( never forget that smidgey bit 😂 )..I will never understand..'WHY' do people think 5' 8" is 'short'. That's 'our' word..leave it out 😂😂😂😂😂...average more like. Loved the video all the same. Subscribed 👍🙂
I'm 5ft 9 and I feel short.
Everybody is taller than me 😀
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5 foot 7" and a smidge and only 29" inseam [long body] but my parents paid for the Napolean complex addon when I was commisioned. I pity those string beans that are forced to ride r1200GS, larger KTMs and Ducati DesertXs just to stop themselves looking like circus clowns on normal bikes 😊 I sat on a 400x in the, feels easily managable compared to my current 855mm seat KTM 390 adv. as weight is light/low.
@@sp33d35 I'm a 29 inseam too and found the scrambler 400 well within my reach, nice bike, I have one on order. Thanks for joining in the fun banter today. 🙂👍
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unrelated to today's video but does anyone know when triumph is going to send out some daytona 660's for youtubers to make videos on?
Not sure, I think I'll probably be able to ride one from the dealer before I would be able to from Triumph UK. As soon as I can, you'll see it here.
@@Englishbikerdan very much looking forward to it!
Wheel size, brake size tyre size and brand, sprocket size difference, handlebar difference, suspension difference (extra 1cm travel), seat is two piece, exhaust end can difference - Is all that worth £600 difference? maybe. I dunno.
If I had a situation where I could get significant offroad use - yes. As it is where I would be completely on-road - no. I will bet though the scrambler outsells the Speed because it looks cooler.
Funny Ride 😂
dual front disk will look nicer
Would be overkill for a 40 hp single.
@@RRP1992exactly, and raises the cost 😊
Yeah, would look cooler for sure.
All new engine from triumph according to the brochure. In reality it’s essentially the bajaj / new ktm390 duke engine.
Skoda what now?
Ahem, 😂
Would you rather have a Triumph 400x or Honda 500x?
Honda 500X.
@@Englishbikerdan Can you elaborate on the answer? I'm shopping for a first larger (than 50cc) bike
Similar price point to Himalayan.
More road oriented of the two.
agree. kinda. depends on what type of offroad you do and where. Most offroad bikers prefer lower down pull and lower wet weight over everything else. The 400x seems to win on those counts based on Indian reviews but I cant validate that myself. I will try both. The RE has a bigger front wheel and i think more travel neither really make much difference for my type of mild green laning [grass, mud and tractor ruts. If you want a faired ADV or need to traverse rocks the Himmy is gonna have an advantage. Personally, I would take the lightest bike that was a best fit for where i will [if honest to myself] will spend most time (potholed B roads, back lanes and the occaisional BoAT twin track when curious/lost). oh and tubless tyres. too old to faff around with tubes miles from anywhere.
I'm not sure if the service intervals are a bit of a smoke screen thing, given I personally would not be leaving the oil in for a year or if you are riding a shed load and get to the 10,000 miles in less than a year, say 9 months, same applies, would you really trust it for that length of time or milage, OK fully synthetic oil might be OK but I feel most owners would change it and the filter at no more than 5,000 😉
I'd do it every 3,500 just like a car, regardless of what the manual says. Probably gonna wanna clean the air filter and lube/adjust the chain at least that often, so might as well do oil and filter at the same time.
Nice bike. Cockpit is dated though. It's not a classic display, just 15 years behind.
I regard that as a good thing. I don't want a motorcycle that I can log into with my cellphone.
Price means they have to make some concessions. You can't have it all.
The 400 platform is so interesting, I do wonder if they could cobble together a daytona style small sport bike or a small adventure, like KTM has
I would be betting there will be a faired version and a Tiger 400 in the future.
These new Triumph 400s seem nice but I have a serious bone of contention - no centre stands! Royal Enfield has managed to get them on every platform in its range, why can't Triumph?
my royal enfield gt650 did not come with a center stand.
@@notstevelam but the Interceptor 650 which is based on the same platform does. Like I said, every platform has a centre stand available.
It's to maintain the road clearance. Giving a centre stand will eat into it which wouldn't make it much of a scrambler on Indian roads with speed breakers.
They might offer it as an accessory.
@@Sahu6492 most adventure bikes and many scramblers (including other Triumph Ccramblers) have a centre stand option - this doesn't seem to. The Scrambler 400X has less ground clearance than a Himalayan 411 or 452 - the Himis come with a centre stand.
Personally, I dont get the appeal of centerstands. They make sense on a long distance tourer or adventure bike where you expect to be doing a lot of maintenance on the side of the road. But on a low maintenance, lightweight bike like this I don't see the point? When you're out and about the kickstand works fine and when you're at home doing maintenance twice a year, you can just use a bike stand in your garage.
Nice Bajaj 400.
It looks good, but I am not a Triumph fan even though they are English. Despite being a patriotic type, I'd rather have a Fantic Caballero Scrambler 500 [449cc]. It also looks better than this Triumph to me.
I'm keeping my KTM 390 Duke Mk 2. Lighter than the Triumph. Superb handler. It's my second bike in Chiang Rai behind my Yamaha SCR950. Although, I use my Yamaha Aerox 155 twist and go on a daily basis.
Good review, Dan. Nick
I'll guarantee you that those front forks are not showa 😏
Change the gear bro at 70.
Thanks, but no thnaks, i'll be choosing the Honda CB500F
This is the great thing about having so much choice! Enjoy the 500!
@@Englishbikerdan Which one of those two would you choose personally?
Did you say redline at 12000 rpm? Lol.
Limiter is approx 9100 rpms, I did audio check on another video hitting the limiter. You would think that knowing the peak power is at 8K would make the presenter realize the overrun limiter is not 12k.
We'll that's what the speedo would indicate, but probably not accurate! I'm not no expert here, just a normal dude who likes arsing about on bikes. 😀
All the 400X test are on tar....does'nt anyone go OPFFROADS ?i.e. gravel roads ? What about engine protection when falling down ? C'mon someone...give us an OFF ROAD test !!!
Plastic bash plate with the coolant directly behind that plastic plate.
Revzilla channel take both 400's off road up the highest road in India.
Nathanthepostman has just done one
@@realstevieb7201 yep, watched it, he's always good with a review.
As soon as I can get a press bike, yes. But that's probably going to be spring.
It is basically a KTM 390 engine. Lol
Certainly similar. No bad thing either.
No they are different engines,
Sounds like a murray walker imoression at times. Not ever so relaxing.
I'm honoured to be in such esteemed company.
Any other Scrambler 400 x owners here? ☺️
Sorry but watching you ride a new bike with no respect of the fact it hadn’t been run in made me cringe!!!!
I wouldn’t be surprised if if you find trouble getting dealerships giving you future bikes.
You really think demo bikes are ridden slowly by riders? 😂
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Can't do with a vibey motor - very annoying.
Nah.... love a motor with character and that means vibes.
It's a really nice looking bike, except for those horrible golden fork legs. What a shame about those, what were you thinking, Triumph?
Ah, that's just ruined it for me. 845mm seat height?????? on a 400???? Just because it's supposed to be a "scrambler".
800mm is my max for my leg length. I'm not going to all the hassle of getting one of these things lowered just because it's a "scrambler". USELESS. Make a lower seat height version Triumph!!!! And I mean THIS bike, not another stupid feet forward 'cruiser' version of it. I'm not interested in cruisers, I like THIS bike
Go for the Speed 400
Alex if I was you I'd go and have a sit on one. The seat height is actually 835mm and I like you usually prefer a seat height max of 800 but I could touch the floor no problem 🙂 which surprised me. The street does have a lower height of 790 mm. 🙂
It got 835mm of seat height
901mm of width of handlebars
195mm of ground clearance
150mm of suspension travel manufactured by a company called endurance in India.
You can't lower this bike, because it doesn't have a rear shock with linkage!
@@Englishbikerdan Just checked the speed 400. Looks identical (cool!) So what's with the different seat height??? different suspension settings? frame and seat are the same.... ???
Gold forks being a treno, it actually doesn’t fit this bikes color scheme and style.
I agree
Actually, this bike is a choice. Honda NX(?)500, Transalp……..I live in the mountains and, whilst there are some open roads that need accounting for, it’s the tracks that beckon. This bike needs to be taken off road for a sizing I think. Otherwise it’s a fun commuter on current assessment.