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fucking thumbnail scared the shit out of me
Mark Thomas because it looked like your mother
Mark Thomas I thought it was a Gypsy Zombie.
Mark Thomas Ahahahah agree
+Mark Thomas LOL!! does mohomet approve of this? LOL!!!
+Mark Thomas HAHAH ME TOO I JUMPED
I'm an atheist, but for some reason I loved how Maryani said that even the prostitutes and thieves would be forgiven by god. I think she has a heart bigger than herself and doesn't understand hate or prejudice, even after being a victim for her entire life.
Paisley Plays What M8? Uh, youre saying that "the gods" make natural disasters happen? Yeah, no.
TheKawaiiDemon
They definitely don't, because that would require existing in the first place, but since you also don't believe in their power and intervention in the world, I'm guessing you're an atheist as well.
lol im a man of science.
***** Homosexuality and Bisexuality are observed in thousands of species other than humans, and is completely natural. How could it be anything other than natural since we are natural creatures. as for transsexuals i don't know enough about whats going on to say anything but why is it so hard for people to accept who they are and leave them alone. Why not honor their wish to be called something even if biologically they're something else? Judging from your comment you are a sheep, a sheep to whatever religion leads you to these beliefs.
**he**
I’m a muslim, but i’m in no place to criticise these other muslims for living how they are. If they are happy doing this, let them do it. Allah will judge them, so we shouldn’t.
If you want to be respected as a muslim, respect others first. Even if you don’t completely understand.
They respect others but no one seems to respect them :(
Underrated comment. And I agree with you 100%
Albi Kovi Yes, but Allah don't want to change your sexuality. When he makes you a man or women, then you should accept it. When you dont accept it, you automatically against him. This makes no sense. You dont respect his choise.
that is why the creator is gonna destroy you all,you new testament followers and bukhari followers
I am Muslim Sunni
and I know the truth
Indonesia + Malaysia + shit UAE / Dubai nasty shit + All these countries are called themselves Islamic countries
are in fact not real Islamic countries
They are secular countries
Even Saudi Arabia (the Saudi government / Saudi regime is a so secular and so hypocritical regime / government is slave to America
and
Iran is just a Shia heretical state = Iran is Not real Islamic country = Iran is Influenced by the ancient Persian Zoroastrian sentiment (Hateful spiteful Persian Zoroastrian) and the ancient Persian history before Islam
I'm a muslimah and an Indonesian. I'm not here to hate warias, nor to judge them. In fact, i have neighbors that are warias and we're just as fine. I just want say, i hope they can live their life, and happy with their choice, and may Allah give us hidayah so we can be better human beings. Amen.🙏
amalia lubis nah ini, pinter. Jgn dibully tapi didoakan agar mereka dapat hidayah supaya mereka kembali ke kebenaran. Bukan malah dimaklumi hanya karena mereka baik dan rajin beribadah. Tetep yg salah adalah salah, doakan mreka supaya kembali ke jalan yg benar
Transwoman are not warias eww
not "Amen"
"Aamiin"
I agree. But in the states they get protected status and then they want to be in all of us ladies private spaces. These men use this to invade the space of women then they become angry and start attacking women. Keep them in check. Don't give them special rights they are not women, they are not men they are ??? and they get no special treatments.
*I'm Trowin' Up!!!..............PREPARE THE FLAMETHROWERS!!!*
forget Bruce Jenner - these are brave people.
what a tough life. wow
+lydiasus christ
get your own respect - It's my opinion.
+carolyn nigro YOU CAN HAVE AN OPINION BUT CALL CAITLYN BY HER NAME
+Jessica Yunker Sorry,but Bruce Jenner is still a man and not enough masquerading or hormone shots will change that only what created him will.
+Jessica Yunker Bruce has male
hormones
Ok,let's call Bruce by what he really is "Artificial Female"
"My job is to raise my daughter." I wish more people had that understanding to put your child(ren) first. Wow.
andrielisilien Hello :) I don't think this is right. Of course your children are very very important, but parents stay women, men, lovers, girls, boys,... with individual dreams even if they have children. Your own life is as important as your children's.
wtf are you talking about? there are many people who believe and act as great parents!! yes, there are shitty parents but there are also a lot of great parents, and i think that is the majority not the rule!
andrielisilien I have 4, but I come first , they can't take care of themselves or me so I have to be taken care of first, kids 2nd, as long as they are taking care of it doesn't matter whose first or who's second you have love in your heart to take care of children it should be okay no matter what they don't have to come 1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th or 6th just take care of them
I think better to let the kids starve than do this kind of stuff that can get you abused/killed/arrested. Kids starving is bad, but other income can be made
Allah is first always
RIP Maryani (1960-2014)
May Allah almighty bless you😭
Aww noo :(( god bless her. Rest in peace
Rest in peace, Bu...
Innalillahi, rest in peace
إِنَّا اللهِ وَإِنَّا إِلَيْهِ رَاجِعُونَ
May Allah bless her soul
Sakit kah?
At 23:35 when the host is trying to sing, one of the waria's says, "Pasty face can't roll her R's for shit" had me laughing so hard! LOL! This documentary was amazing. I learned a lot.
lol
I've been looking through the comments to see if anyone else caught that! 🤣🤣hilarious. And then poor pasty face couldn't dance on beat for the life of her either.
@@dandybrandy451 Yes!!! You’re right! Her dancing was really offbeat! 🤣 I think Pasty face is a nice person though! She meant well! 😂
I'm Muslim and I consider myself rather religious and educated about my religion, and I also consider myself a very open minded person. I watched this documentary because the idea of a Muslim transsexual is intriguing. Being transgender or gay is haram and naturally you would think that being Muslim and transgender would be contradictory, but just like they said at the end of the video, it is up to Allah (swt) to judge all human beings. One of the greatest sins in Islam is judging other people, and all of the people who continue to call the subjects of this video out for doing haram things are no better than them. Yes, they claimed to be Muslims while participating in drinking and prostitution, but no Muslim is perfect and sin free. Remember that Allah (swt) is all forgiving and merciful and they still have the potential to seek forgiveness from Allah (swt) for their sins. We do not know the relationship between these people and Allah (swt), so we can not judge them for what we see them do or what they are.
It's perfectly understandable if you're Muslim and the thought of a transgender Muslim makes you uncomfortable, but the best thing is to not worry about other people's sins and try to strengthen your own relationship between you and Allah (swt) for you will be judged by your sins, not others'.
ahhmani : So I can start drinking and sex with same sex and ZINA and... cause it is just Allah who judges us!!!Brother, where are you taking this?
An open sinner has no right to be criticized at all! Where did you get this information? Our prophet would try to help them, not criticize and banish then. Where are you getting your information?
You're an idiot, that's the law of the sharia and that was his idea punishment when the sahabas were trying to make the sharia and of course they listened to him. You can't kill gays in countries without a law abiding by it. In saudi, if you get caught by the public being gay, then they will execute you, but no random person can just go and kill them, they don't have the authority to do that, the person that was caught MUST go to court first. no civilian has the right to murder another even if they do shirk, only if they are caught doing it, the judge sentences them to the punishment, then the HADD must be carried out, that's what they did during the prophets time.
No,'you have it wrong. Only in the muslim countries can they do that because the suSpected sinner has to go through court. You can't just randomly kill a homosexual or a polytheist in a country with no muslim leader.
*****
@2015Boo boo...learn about compassion if not acceptance.
I think people are the main problem, not God.
banana aya playa
I don't care what religion people believe in or whether they believe in no religion. People should just be nice to others and not cause harm. Show some respect. They're not cramping other people's personal everyday lives. It's their life. They deserve to be happy.
Cindy Lam agree! !!
Cindy Lam "People should just be nice to others and not cause harm." Should trump any Religious belief, as this matters much more then a imaginary God being happy.
How could be that people are so attached to religion?to something that was created so far away in time whose points couldn't fit and understand the contemporary society! We have come far in terms of civil rights human rights freedom and we have become more opened about diversity but still people rather than try to see through differencies would prefer seeing what's written in some old holy books!now i wonder what's religion? Something that allow you to love and understand and be united to other human beings or just an excuse to hate and judge others more openly and freely??
God is nothing.
I feel like the reporter did amazingly at adapting into the environment as well as making the warias feel comfortable with her presence. May Allah be with Maryani and the strong warias.
Yass Tomi a typical response from a self centered religious prick. Get out
+Fadhila
He's not a self centered religious prick, he is just saying the truth, it is HARAM to be gay/transexual or anything other than straight in islam.
Jo Stal then literally fuck any religion lmao
discriminating a group when they did no harm is pathetic
Jo Stal i don't either
i have a strong dislike towards the lgbt community but i don't hate trans and/or gay people
Jo Stal It’s not haram to have feelings towards the same sex, because you can’t control them, but it’s strictly forbidden to act accordingly to these same feelings.
You’re not considered accountable for things you can’t control such as feelings, but rather for how you use them, either in a good way or in a bad way.
as an indonesian and a muslim, i never knew there was such openness; im proud
I live in Thailand and here we have a LOT of muslim ladyboys from Dubai, Iran, Syria, Lebanon, Abu Dhabi, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Pakistan and we even met one from Afghanistan. They usually hang out near the place I smoke Shisha and we talked to some of them and they are really cool girls/guys. How great is Thailand to accept everyone as they are, no matter religion, nationality or sexual orientation!!
Torben Rudgaard Ladyboys is a horrible name. However there is a huge difference between a transvestite (ladyboy) and a transsexual. Ladyboy is the equivalent of the word shemale, and both are equally as offensive to a woman trapped in the wrong body (transsexual). Ladyboys originally never meant transsexuals. That is something ignorant people have associated them with, but ladyboys were originally the asian version of a drag queen pretty much.
accept everyone, except rohingya??? wtf
Sally Rispoli Ladyboy, TomBoy, Transvestite, Transexual, Crossdresser... I respect them all and will call them what ever they prefer me to call them :)
+Torben Rudgaard You probably on the Down Low.
+Vic Guevara rohingya is in myanmar bro, not in thailand
This just shows why being LGBT is not a choice but how you are born. Why would someone choose to lead a difficult life as an outcast. These women are true to themselves and their faith. If God doesn't make mistakes you shouldn't make his followers outcasts.
moevana12 If god designed male and female, why is it that so many people fall out of those categories? Who are born without clear definition to either? If god designed human beings then surely he designed whoever appears on the earth since for those who have christian faith believe he created everything?? Pretty sure god didn't go 'oops, my bad, that one was a mistake' and then do it MILLIONS more times. If he had a 'template' for how people were supposed to be, then either that template is different from the one you seem to think it is, or he truly is a master of exceptions to the rule.
There's no one who falls out of those categories; if you have a penis, you're male, if you have a vagina, you're female.
Not true. There are PLENTY of people who fall out of those categories and have different gender identities. The fact that you don't see those people talking about it in every day life is because they are judged - exactly how you are doing now. There are a BUNCH of different criteria that are used to define biological sex at birth. Genitalia is only one of them. The others are things like Hormones, Chromosomes, Gonads (Uterus/Testes) or Secondary Sex Characteristics such as facial hair. There is such a thing as someone who is intersex. Someone who doesn't fit the criteria for one or the other. Gender is so much more variable than you think, and just because you haven't educated yourself about it, doesn't mean it's okay to inflict that lack of knowledge on other people. You think you know everything. You do not.
Alexae B A person who gives us free will and the opportunity of life doesn't define "malevolent" to me.
In the book of Acts, Peter receives a dream from God about the pork, etc. issue. 1 Corinthians is in the New Testament, thus being proof that we should still pay attention to that Leviticus verse.
What greatly amuses me is that I used the ESV version and you obviously used NIV, but you're saying I "added" something. "Men" can go for women too. For example, when I'm writing a paper, I usually write "he" as the dominant pronoun as a shortener for "he or she" when I am making a generalization.
moevana12 "A person who gives us free will and the opportunity of life doesn't define "malevolent" to me. "
You missed out the eternal hell-fire if you don't follow a rigid and contradicting set of rules. Its hardly free will when someone had a gun pointed at you.
Also the fact why God simply does not remove Sin, instead lets everybody suffer while testing them.
"In the book of Acts, Peter receives a dream from God about the pork, etc. issue. 1 Corinthians is in the New Testament, thus being proof that we should still pay attention to that Leviticus verse.
Jesus already told you to follow the teachings of the Old, so why not stone people to death and ect?
I like how neutral the reporter is
well she must be, although we dont know what her truly think
Assalamualaikum
terlepas dari kata waria.. stidaknya sebagai umat muslim dia sudah mencoba dan melaksanakan ibadah kepada allah s.w.t.....
sedangkan banyak orang yang merasa dirinya baik secara gender malah tidak melaksanakan ibadah.. stop menyalahkan mari merangkul....peace
dede aditya ini maksudku!! akhirnya
Sholatnya ga diterima
wkwkwk.. makasi atas responnya mas... hebat skali anda bisa mengetahui shlaat seseorang diterima atau tidak...hanya allah yang tau mas... malahan walaupun kita ini pejudi, pezina atai segala macam tetap dianjurkan buat shlat... karena kita berhrp dengan shalat allah membimbing kita dan setidknya dia udah berusaha... saya tanya anda udah menjaga shalat anda belum. kalau sudah saya berharap shalat anda bisa mengajarkan kerendahan hati dalam melihat sesama... terimakasih
Terima kasih sudah diingatkan mas dede. Namun yg saya tau waktu ngaji dulu bahwa mengubah kodrat laki-laki menjadi perempuan itu sama saja dengan tidak puas terhadap ciptaan Allah SWT. Masa laki-laki sholat pakai mukena?
ngeeeh mas.. tapi yaa itu udah pilihan dia.. dia juga udah mikir baik buruk ama dia kok mas... tpi yaa.. secara umum... saya mendukung sikap para teman teman diatas yang masih menjaga agama.. padhal mereka dibawah tekanan sosia maupun religi.. apakah kita yang katanya normal secara genre tidak malu... saya tidak mendukung aksi menjadi waria,.. tpi saya secara pribadi iri dengan sikap mereka yang masih menjaga agama.. sementara kita yang katanya normal malah....?
For those of you wondering: YES, transgender is against Islam. However, as long as the transgender person is not causing any harm, there is NO POINT in persecuting them. In fact, the best thing we could do as Muslims, Christians or Buddhists etc.. is to LEAVE THEM ALONE! Let them do what they want. God will judge in the end, not us... Peace
Thou art amazing! :) Keep doing what you do man :P
the fact that they're admitting themselves as islam when they're not!
For you who love and respect Ibu Mariani, she' passed away in may 2014 and now her legacy the islamic boarding school she built are closed because Muslim extremist threatening the place
If maryani was right about her God being compassionate and just, she'll be in paradise now. I have so much respect for her fortitude, leadership and creativity even as a non muslim and I hope the other warias in java find safety and happiness in the future
so sad
ardin salim apa benar? kamu tahu darimana?
ardin salim reference please?
the true is, ya she passed away but the islamic boarding school are not close, the place only move to the other place and its still exist until now. the end of last year my friend try to have a research about them but she has to pay to them.
It's not the religion that rejects her, it's the people.
Heri Demsas you're wrong
No
👏true that!
Heri Demsas no, we reject these people for their horrible actions based on our belief. There is only man and woman, no wiggle room when it comes to this. Shit I as a man can't even wear gold as gold is exclusively for women to wear. Man is man, woman is woman.
AlaskanWolf oh just shut up you're so medieval it's ridiculous
ah, dont forget that indonesia has Bunda Dorce who had a great tv show, kindof indonesian oprah, and shes a transgender so basically indonesia has its own Caitlyn Jenner even long before the US has Caitlyn😆😊
Skywalker Hunter Plus she has done more good than harm.
Dorce >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Caitlyn jenner
Dorce definitely much better than Jenner
Acah la
I'm not sure why Catlin Jenner has been put on pedestal. There's people in the world doing what she did but they actually create change and have a positive effect on the world, like this woman.
I am a muslim and I have to say i really respect maryana, her dedication to god really hit me and its true, god looks at whats on the inside and her heart and spirit must be of gold
first they are third gender which is not supported by God. and Islam never accept nor justify his evil doing. he have to pray as man and it is insulting to his religion to pray as women. total haram acts
don´t listen to them, adeeba kausar. You are totally right that the dedication and love for god and for you fellow human beings is what counts. God teaches us compassion, and to blindly follow rules
Varell Tarnee are you muslim?
Aisyah khan No, but I believe that there is somebody watching out for us. And that we should all respect each other.
isa thats only in ur mindset.... please respect others mindset... in fact, he is born as a male... not a hermaphrodite when he is born...
im muslim and i actually completely respect these women (yea i said women, its the way they choose to live their lives) they have gone through so much hardship and troubles to find acceptance, and still smile and dance it off everyday wow, i salute these women and would love to meet them.
Astagfirualah
it's really important to remember that lgbt issues span further than just where we live... videos like these really shut down the argument that being trans is something that only exists in countries like america.
yes!
Being human is not a crime!
In islam it is varied.
Being religious should be one
@@cxarhomell5867 I always see you in the comment replies on lgbt related videos from Genetically Modified Skeptic and a video about gay men in the arab world to this. What really is your deal?
The comments make me sick, I'm trans and it has nothing to do with any thing, it is a small tinsy part of who I am. If you do not like or accept trans people then *WHY THE FUCK* are you watching this? Bunch of hateful christians and muslims hating on us. Doesn't your fictional books teach you to love and accept everyone? How does a fictional story book about love spread so much hate it's disgusting!
On a side note I'd like to say a personal thank you to Vice for giving us a voice, our lives are not easy. People hate us for something we cannot control we just try to live as ourselves to be happy. Thank you for the work you do for us trans women. We are not monsters we are simply human like the rest of you.
ghali mehadji I appreciate that, I've talked and even dated a few Muslim guys, I know not all are bigots just sad there are so many out there!
your trans couldn't tell by your pic......stay beautiful :)
Aww thank you
You rock, I'm glad to find at least one positive, supportive and non-transphobic comment thread for this video. I wonder what woukd happen if HRT were available and affordable for this community, and they could pass in the streets as women? Would that spare them some of the hatred and violence?
DaiReborn I doubt there would be an issue. In my personal experience anyone that has met me has no idea I'm transgender unless I've told them or they knew me as a kid. I think it has more to do with the fact they can point it out. I'll tell ya something, the guys that are screaming about us needed to be burnt etc etc etc are the ones that google our porn and jerk off to us. The ones that bark the loudest want us sexually the most.
im tired of seeing people bashing islam just stop the reason why blacks are in the americas and the reason native american population is down to dangerous levels is not because of islam but because of "christian" and "catholics". We need to stop bashing the religion for the wrongs of people but to place the blame on the people doing the wrongs, its that simple. I believe there is a god or gods no doubt that controls the ways of the universe but I dont believe in jesus and mohammed and all of that but at least respect peoples belief.
Thank you!
No problem! Theres way too much Anti-Islam propaganda right now its ridiculous. My parents are Muslim and are great people its isn't the religion that poisons people its the opposite.
Ronald Riddick I cried.Faith in humanity restored.T-T
Shafiqul Xhaka haha yeah man its still some people in the world left with brains lol!
Read my complete comment all people in all religions have done some wrong but my point is that it isn't the religion that is doing it its the corrupt people who are doing it.
Konten ini membuat perspektifku tentang waria literally berubah.. Dr dulu takut banget sama waria, apalagi kalau disamperin pas mereka ngamen bisa sampe merinding kaku sangkin parnonya. Padahal mereka juga manusia, mereka jauh lebih baik ngamen drpada berkecimpung di dunia prostitusi. Maafkan aku yg dulu.. Thanks Vice :')
waria muda bahaya bro.. kalo mereka bergerombol dan kamu sndirian bisa aja kok kamu diperkosa krn nafsu mereka itu nafsu lelaki.. cenderung ofensif
@@ibadkain5287 gak semua cowok begitu.
@@ibadkain5287 Waria itu Mereka Nafsunya Cewek krn Mereka perempuan terjebak dalam Raga laki laki . #transwomenarewomen
Honestly, I am really touched by this remarkable woman. Much respect for her.
The fact that they smoke in the school, see prostitution, stealing and drinking as being okay, shows that they know next to nothing about Islam. our religion does not accept transgender, although that does not mean that people should treat them like crap, they should be talked to and if they wish to live that way then so be it that's up to them, but they shouldn't be teaching others that its okay.
+ThatArabgirl I see it in another light. I don't think it's right for you to decide whether or not they "understand" Islam. Your definition of Islam will be very different than the person next to you. Sure there are certainly things that the religion does not condone of, such as those you have mentioned above. However, most Indonesian men smoke, in and out of public buildings. Do 'they' understand Islam? How about those who were born with a female genitalia, but are unable to financially provide for themselves? And are then forced into the night life? Are they "good" muslims? Like everything else, it's not black or white. PLUS, I don't think they're trying to teach others that those^ actions are "okay". I think they're trying to spread a more accepting tone to not only other warias, but also to other people in general. A safe space of warias, for warias.
+Sun's Shadow like your point Sun's Shadow.
+ThatArabgirl Your religion does accept them that's why they are still here.
+ThatArabgirl Good points...
Islam is complete nonsense no one knows what islam is thats why their all fighting.. it will be ban world wide soon though.
honestly, who wouldn't be kinda annoyed when someone comes singing in your face waiting for money ? even worse when it's frequent.......
+Nafolchan Being annoyed at peoples who do that cause it's their only option along with prostitution is really not cool.
It like beggars elsewhere, if you say nothing they'll go away so this "annoyment" would stoped quite fast and be nothing compared to their struggles as warias.
Julien Castle i did not fully understand their condition but i don't think that's their only options, there must be something else.
beggars are annoying and they never believe that you have no money and if you stay quiet it just makes them stay longer. or that's how the ones i encounter are.
Nafolchan They said it was their only options with "being a thief" and if they're rejected by many peoples it's hard to imagine them having more "casual" jobs. Maybe it's possible despite the rejection they encountered but it must be harder for sure.
At least they didn't choose the "thief way" and ask you to give them some money instead of merely stealing it like they could be tempted to do in such situations.
They were "leaving home without money" according to what they say in this video so if their parents didn't help them when they leaved the house being younger, they probably don't help them now they're adults...
No financial support and more difficulties than most of the peoples to find a stable job and you easily understand the "street singing" thing.
Not soul_destroying like selling your body and more honnest than to simply rob peoples.
They took the healthier and moral option here.
+Julien Castle Yeah Jul you're true
they would'nt be working on the street if the society accept them for an appropiate work
To be honest this is my favourite vice documentary of all time. I absolutely love the way Hannah explained the situation, it has a really interesting theme since I can see the different sides of transvestites in Yogyakarta. I absolutely liked the way they worship god and explain why they believed in gos, for me they're much better than the extrimist here in Indonesia haha. So much respect for Maryani may her soul rest in peace.
omg... how dare you put in "singin in foreign language" there. Thats not singing!. Thats actually reading. I'm Turkish and idk how to translate it for you, but we turkish people call it "ezan" and that is from the Quran and they are reading it. so dont call it "singing"
Asian Scarecrow vice is stupid
Maryani's such a beautiful gentle compassionate person. wow. and her daughter is clearly so loved and happy. the saddest thing about this is that anyone could be so blind to the reality of those sublime qualities. people who consider themselves remotely spiritual (but are so poisonous and damning) have a lot to learn from the humility and tenderness of those they judge and reject.
if they are real muslim, they need to live as who they are..if u are a man...live as a man...if u are a woman, live as a woman....i cant accept this...u are not thank enough what ALLAH swt gave u...so disappointed
People do not choose to be transsexuals they just are..... they are people who are born in the wrong body.....who the hell are you to judge these people?
An imaginary entity's puppet.
What an incredibly ignorant thing to say, NUR CAHAYA.
its my business seem its about my religion...
***** dont bother fighting with this Nur. She's a Malaysian and Malaysia is an Islamic nation. The views of Islam over here (yes I'm Malaysian myself) is rather extreme. Few examples: 1. Christians are literally forbidden to say Allah, but the funny thing is Allah is literally 'God', in Arabic, and Islam doesn't hold any right to the world 'Allah'. 2. Not allowed to wish Merry Christmas to people who celebrate, or Valentines, or even Mothers day. Its a shirk. Even if your intention was to wish others who celebrate. Only god knows when our birthdays are illegal for Muslims to celebrate to just because some highly educated Mufti's issued fatwas thinking its for the god almighty. Yeah, Syria's new fatwa about allowing the raping of non-Sunni Muslim's is really great for the god almighty. Allahuakbar. *sarcastic
This Nur, clearly is indoctrinated heavily about a rather narrow view in Islam (again, quite extreme), because in Malaysia the national TV channels shows lectures from religious people, and this religious people gives narrow, traditional views, not open minded at all. Its not only on TV channels, its also on radios, every single day. She is defending her religion indeed, but its from her view. Indonesians on the other hand is more open, therefore they have their own view about transsexuals and about god accepting them for who they are. In real truth, Islam does not accept transsexuals, but who are we to judge them? Are we really that perfect, to judge someone else? To Nur, she is. Why? Islamic indoctrination and holier-than-thou attitude at its best.
so refreshing to know people like this exists..
Warias existed in Makkah. The people wanted to kill them but the Prophet (s) said they pray like Muslims and they have the right to live like a Muslim who prays. They were given a space between Makkah and Medina to live. It is best now, according to a growing number of ulama, to have gender confirmation surgery to correct the disconnect between mind and body, just as it's best to fix any other physical error. Once their bodies match their gender, trans women should abide by the shariah for women. They should marry, observe hijab, and inherit as a woman.
The truth in Indonesia, Most of muslim there not the same as muslim in the Middle East.
They are not bullying or never just verbally assault transgender community member.
If there was any confronting action, what are they doing just strict their kids to interact with transgrender community.
They believe their kids will became transgender if they too many interact with transgender.
But the problem was come in early decade, when fanatic muslim minority,
trying to make Indonesia the same as muslim in the middle east, they doing anything, and violence are common.
They fight everything that differents with their beliefs, including LGBT.
Most of these fanatics grow in part of west Java.
But many city and Island goverment refused if these fanatics try to expanding their member in their authority area.
this is fuckin' true.
fuck fanatism.
Jong Wirabhumi Indonesia is being destroyed by those fanatics. If the end goal of Islamist, an Islamic government in Indonesia, is realised, then I can only see 2 things happened next. Either no more "Indonesia" because of demand for independent from non-Muslim majority province, or a demonstration not unlike 1998.
Nusantara will return to become part of the Darussalam instead of being colonial playground of great powers. Amen.
Together we are mighty. Separately we are naught but ants.
+inawarminister, making nusantara with syaria state / law not solving problem.
First step non muslim will became victim.
Then other muslims sect, that not as part from ruling goverment.
Minority will suffer and majority become dictator.
It just making nusantara as Religion Fascism.
Jong Wirabhumi ngarang!
It's so moving that these people still find purpose in their lives even though it seems like all odds are against them. These people are so inspirational and brave.
Stunning and brave
Great documentary! I love how Waria sounds like "warrior," they are fighters and deserve MORE respect for their fight. Cheers!
RIP Ma Shinta Ratri (1963-2023)
😂😂😂😂🎉🎉
@@ChodeMaster I agree with you if you are immortal like a flatworm.
Well, not a fan of islam, but good luck to all who decide to become muslim. Just remember, you decide what religion to follow, you don't decide your gender or sexuality. You can control your sexual behavior and you can force yourself to act like something you're not, sure, but ultimately you don't decide your gender or sexuality.
I would be totally on board with religions if they didn't spread misinformation. Everyone on here is saying its a sin to be gay or transsexual, but the truth is it is completely fine and completely ethical. Consent should be the issue at hand, not attraction.
true christianity leads 2 islam! www.alislam.org/library/books/true-christianity-leads-to-islam.html
If it was a sin to be homosexual, ancient Rome would have been raised to the ground by some act of God, because it was just as bad as anything in Sodom and Gomorrah. The fact that nothing of that nature has occurred in modern recorded history should give people some clue that all religious texts are nothing more than mythologies, and taking them literally is an act of stupidity.
Kingsley Zissou
Besides Sodom and Gomorrah was mainly about greed wasn't it? I know there was all the anal sex happening in the background... But I'm pretty sure that story was about greed, not gay sex.
Someone should tell the Vatican.
Finally! The only sane person here.
Finally some intelligent people!
I hope they all find happiness and success.
ThePartySample
This is actually a very interesting documentary but to make it clear on the narrative parts when you explain the blur definition of DANGDUT, dangdut is NOT A SEXY POP, dangdut intially came from the root of Melayu ballad culture and in its development, dangdut evolved with several adaptations. Dangdut is a very rich music that can contain so many emotions. Not just POP in general. Especially “only sexy”, nope. Dangdut is more than just a music. It’s a culture.
Soraya Hylmi. Hi sexy
im hindu in indonesia, and i dont agree about LGBT but i still respect them
I'm a muslim in indonesia, and i respect them.
Sesama manusia
I'm agnostic but how Maryani said about Islam and religeon in general is how it should be.
Yes miss keep your opinions to yourself
But, God only blesses those who obey him. Prostitution is not something of religion.
@Habesha Issue
What else can they do then? Beg for money? Just stop talking if you have no idea of the hardships they have to go through just to live another day.
@Torag, it's totally unacceptable in religion for one to be prostitute. They can try other jobs like house maid, cleaning, waiters, so so.
@Amy Ikejiaku I have the right to condemn what is morally bad. Of course she is out of her past life now and embraced Islam. However, those girls whom she supports are in prostitution and she knows that. I was talking about not her but I was talking about the other girls who are in it. If she must support them, then she should have taken them away from this nasty job. It seems to me that she is allowing them to do it even though she is no longer in it. Even some of them are students at the Quran school. And they learn quran during the day time, and they go to prostitution at night. And the woman knows what is happening. And she is not prohibiting them from doing it. This is totally unacceptable. As a muslim, I have responsibility to condemn what is morally and socially bad. I don't need to be Allah to see what's not right. Allah gave me the intellect so it's up to me to follow the rightous path. Hope you undestand my point.
I liked Maryani, she's always up for something :-) and her daughter is so adorable. May Allah guides us all to the straight path, Amen.
amen... may Allah guides us all...
+Fathima Nasra you can't help being transgender so how can that be haram when God made you that way
+Juliet Lindsey you can be, Homosexuality is just desire and temptation to man or woman like desiring an ice cream but you may desire a while a chocolate.
+Ameen Campano That grammar though..Good job
Sorry, no time to check my statements and replies. But by the way: Homosexuality is a DESIRE or shortly TEMPTATION upon a person/people with the same gender as the first person. It is like desiring an ice cream but then as time pass you will crave for another meal/ food/ dessert.
Pardon.... Why did you translate "keluar malam" as prostitution??? Maryani never said that in your video.
Edpiggy 92 karena Maryani pindai ,, dia bisa memperhalus kata..
Lihat sampai akhir.
Bc keluar malam literally means prostitution in this context
im touched by the fact that maryani said, "im aware that when i have a boyfriend he's not gg to be w me forever because im a trans." like damn that struck a chord in me bcos ive met many indons and theyre always known to be extremely selfless but maryani is just something else man...
It's not the religion that doesn't accept them, it's our bigoted culture that does.
arwa deyab totally agree, nowhere in the quran says transexuals or transgenders are haraam it says about men and women imitating the opossite gender this is haraam
You guys need to read Quran again, although I have no problem with them but what you guys saying is totally wrong
Emmad Ali agree.
you guys are wrong in Islam it says you cannot imitate the opposite gender, you just said it yourself "men and women imitating the opposite gender is haram" isn't that exactly what these people are doing? because biologically they aren't women so they ARE imitating them.
but hear me out. In Islam when someone is gay/trans ect... as Muslims we can only advise them, we cannot be aggressive or harm them we can only tell them its wrong, if they do not listen then its up to Allah and not us as humans to judge.
We do what we can and if nothing works then as they said "humans aren't gods" so we should keep our mouths shut and let Allah do the judging.
I'm a Muslim and MY personal advice is whenever I see someone who is gay/trans ect.. all I do is just leave them to it, in the end its their life we are all being judged separately, not together.
xxMoonLightxx you really need to do your research because you clesarly dont know what you are talking about
This is such a mind-opening documentary. I was always aware of warias across the country but I would never think twice about them, especially about their trials and tribulations. As an Indonesian, and a filmmaker, I thank you for this film.
Astaghfirullah. I'm a Muslim from Philippines 🇵🇭 but I respect our Muslim Neighbor country. Only Allah (swt) can judge them. ☝🏻 May Allah (swt) guide us in the straight path. Ameen. 🙏🏻 I love our brothers & sisters Malaysian & Indonesian. ❤
Thumbnail is pure gold
Very interesting documentary, I really liked the way the reported approached subjects and explained. It's amazing how even after breaking laws of Islam, some still have faith and follow the teachings even being outcasts. I can't help but note some of them are more interested in the 'safety' the town offers to the warias than the religion itself. But I guess everyone has a way of living eh! I wish all humans could gather and accept each other ways in a lawful way, and see beyong diferences and religions.
Thank you very much for the documentary!
I think semi religious people and atheists would like that, but I dont think its possible since following a religion, really obeying and submitting to a religion means following and believing in all its rules. People who aren't very religious believe in love and kindness above all, some call it religion and might throw in a few things from the bible or koran now and then, but really don't live by the bibles word fully.
Many religious people, especially those that aren't from the western world, think love and righteousness comes from following Gods word, not from humans interpretation of kindness and love (as in respecting all people and religions).
Nowadays there is a tendency in western society to slightly "bend" the rules when it comes to religion, to better fit todays standard. Like believing and preaching that certain parts of the holy book, weigh more heavily than other parts. For example: Homosexual christians and supporters believe that kindness will salvage them, even though sodomy is described as a sin in the bible. Religious transsexuals believe this as well, although both the bible and koran say body mutilation is a sin. Another example is muslims who are friends with christians which the koran say is a sin. etc. etc.
Religious people that really truly believe every word of their holy book, and try to live by it, would not be able to do that - while accepting all people and religions. Its just NOT possible.
I am not religious by the way, like most western people I just want all to get along.
yup and still those outcast will probably burn in hell
Quran* not Koran
Gabriel Rockefeller Yeah her nose was longer than my dick
Indonesia has no culture that's why they adopted islam, they're lame
I'm a Muslim and I find it stupid when the society "neglects" the transsexual instead of guiding them to the right path. I live in Malaysia and I have a few friends which are bisexual but their love for God is never enough. They're being left alone without people giving love and attention as much as people care about the non bisexuals. As a human, we would never run from making mistakes and sins. So why do we need to bother about them? They're all still humans. They have the rights to live. Society is stupid for neglecting them.
pretty cancerous comment section.
As Usual
The thumbnail scared me
I live in a predominantly Christian province and happen to live in the place near the waria's place of business. They always stand on the road after 11 to wait for their customers to pick them up with cars. They generally don't do any harm to the local residences but i think we shouldn't mock them because they can turn into a criminal and kill you, they're very sensitive. Anyway, i think Indonesia's law doesn't criminalise the act of being a waria, though street prostitution is illegal. So, you could simply see them like anywhere, some of them dress as women and the other dress as men. I perceive waria as brave people because they're brave enough to be who they want to be. You can find waria or gay celebrities performing on TV. Indonesia is somewhat strange. It's strict in terms of norms and culture but on the other hand it's also an open society where tolerance and freedom of expression are appreciated.
Anyway, someone knows the song being played at 20:17?
They're very sensitive is a very stereotypical word to describe transgender.
Imanuel L
Lppkm
"appreciate", yeah, as a joke, less human. and then people either laugh at them or secretly talk about how disgusting they are in social media.
only until recently gay characters are not used as a joke punchline in movies. anything that shows gay / trans people as remotely positive is shut down as "propaganda". sayangnya yang selama ini saya liat begitu
Imanuel Aaron Mogie if u are so Christian do u not know "he who stand with the world is a enemy of god" u are a false christan protecting these abonation of a people u sholdnt hold back on the truth no matter if it hurts people feelings
"And there will come a time that they will try to prove that anything that is not halal, halal"
Mikasa Ackerman :'( yes very true
Mikasa Ackerman it’s sad :(
Truly heartbreaking
Mikasa Ackerman true
At last someone in this comments who have common sense. May Allah bless you. Everyone in this comments are trying to be on the side of encouraging these people when in fact they are doing a great sin in Islam, and yet people are saying may Allah bless these transgender Muslims. Seriously I don't know which Allah are they talking about. But it's definitely not the one true God, Allah who forbids these things, for a man to love another man. This is really nasty.
I totally agree. Even if transvestites are looked down upon in Islam, who are we as flawed humans (muslim and non-muslim) to tell them what's wrong or right. How can we deny them their freedom and a relationship with God when it is only God who can and will judge us in the afterlife. The best we can do on Earth is create a space of peace and acceptance.
Tahmina Bee sexy
@@j-stilt9746 Stop creepin' up the comments. It never works out in your favor and it only serves to make you look like a jackass.
Really interesting documentary, I have to say the reporter was first class. She didn't make this story about her, she left the space for people to tell their own story and it really shows.
A really difficult life. May God protect these human beings..
God isn’t real
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
-John 3:16 KJV translation ❤️
@@slowedvibes8033 Yes God does exist ❤️ God bless you and your family ❤️
@@ilovechrist9780 can you give me the solid evidence of your “god” existence? Don’t tell me read the Bible because that’s just a book and nothing else. Give me the evidence you have to prove a “god” exists
@@ilovechrist9780 “If you want to find out if someone is a true bookworm or not, give them a thousand page novel and see what happens”
E.A. Bucchianeri
See, I can quote a book too. No difference at all
Now these people right here, the Waria's. They have real spirit! I hope they win the fight to be accepted.
what fight they need to stop being contradicting
I Hey 👋🏽 is 👋🏽 was you a to get together to
There is a story in Islam that a prostitute once saw a dying dog due to thirst and she gave the dog water and because of that she went to heaven. This is the real Islam, filled with mercy and this should be the Islam that we spread.
As a muslim, i am proud of what maryani has done in providing that school for transpeople. I hope more people in the world just spread love and not hate and understanding instead of prejudice. May Allah forgive her and i pray that she is in a better place.
in Indonesia there are five religions, various kinds of tribes, cultures and languages but they respect each other and appreciate it so that they live peacefully share love
From jakarta
They're just human...
But they are not harming anybody else being who they are...
Mentally as in how? Rapists murderers harm with intent...anybody harmed by this are just in fear of acceptance of individuality...absolutely no intention to do harm is coming from transgenders...
why do they inject that stuff into their faces!? Some of them looked terrifying...I'm not surprised the little boy cried.
Respect to them though, it's brave for them to be themselves in such an intolerant place
***** It really isn't. Algeria, Morocco, Turkey, Jordan, the list goes on. ART. 29 of the Algerian constitution states "All citizens are equal before the law. No discrimination shall prevail because of birth, race, sex, opinion or any other personal or social condition or circumstance."
And ART. 36 states that "Freedom of creed and opinion is inviolable."
Learn about something before you make wild accusations.
TriumphantToufik
"learn something before you make wild accusations"? I suggest you look up the meaning of "wild accusations" before you go around acting so superior. They didnt make any accusations nor were they wild. I dont get why people feel the need to be such dicks just because someone might be misinformed or not know something. Be a teacher - not an asshole.
Lauri648 And I just liked your other comment on this video. Okay I admit that "wild accusations" was a bit over the top and I was acting dickey, but isn't it a bit hypocritical of you to call me an asshole after telling me not to insult people?
Rossellini Rossical Ross C what intolerant if like what you accused they dead long time ago
"Pasty face over there can't roll her R's for shit!"
That part had me dead hahahaha
Can't believe this is 11 years old I wonder where they all are now and esp mariani such a beautiful soul
Maryani died in 2014.
@@StevenSvN7 awww that I'd heartbreaking thank u for letting me know
I feel terribly sorry for all the millions of innocent people who suffer or are persecuted in the name of religion.
I do too! In fact thats the main reason i refuse to be called christian or anything other than wiccan. I think that part of religion is a buncha bullshit! Its evil calling itself religious 😠💔☹️i do NOT like that side of religion at all. Not cool
"a lot of dangdut and a lot of Celine Dion"
I met some of them in this Video, they are really nice persons.
13:08-13:09 the lady in the back’s expression changed sooooo quick 😂
Astaghfirullah wa atubu ileih they have totally wrong idea about islam and theyre doing everytthing thats prohibited in islam. It's all clear in quran and I guess they are not teaching those parts in that islamic school. I think all they are teaching is "Allah huwal Ghfaar" so do whatever you want and Allah will forgive you because he forgives all. USE YOUR LOGIC!!!!!!!!!
Religions are not logic.
Thinking needs logic. And in order to reason with yourself you need be thinking.
Reddit_Atheist lol... go fuck ur self... hacker.. ohhhh u scared me....
i agree, we should learn not just how to pray etc, right now we are learning God's existence and how to prove it, why aren't there more than 1 God etc.
GOD MADE YOU THERE IS NO MISTAKE
I find it annoying when people only accept the transsexual people who 'pass' as pretty woman
same here
That's a AMAZING documentary, so glad that you could explain how is the life of the Warias and I am so proud of them.
That's gonna be a yikes from me dawg
How can she say: Allah still bless them ?
prostitution, stealing for a living ?
that's is a big sin in Islam !
Haram. if they knows Islam, they would not do that, may Allah forgive them ..
It seems like they are completely normal and spiritual people aside from wanting to dress or become the opposite gender. I don't know why people have to kick up such a fuss about something that makes another person happy.
ancient laws written by ingornat angry barbarians thats what. its tragic though
Amelia Martin Um we actually are. If only society and yourself knew how stupid you were for saying shit like what you just said you would smack yourself. We don't CHOOSE to be another Gender. Psychology and Medical Journals have already done research to disprove that. The same way intersex individuals are born in the wrong body the same can occur for a trans person.
I am a transgender woman and a trans advocate if anyone wants to follow me on IG my IG is: Princess_Delicious26
Asians Muslims are different muslims.
They don't really follow Quran and the teachings of prophet Muhammad ( SCW)
That's weird that they're being shunned by Islamic authorities. In countries like India and Iran being a transsexual muslim is far more acceptable than being a gay muslim.
These people deserve to be happy no matter what. They're not doing harm to anyone. People need to stop being so judgmental. These women are beautiful and bring tears to my eyes! They're so strong! They do what the can to get by and they never lose faith in what they believe. Their outlook on life is beautiful and they're so kind! Amazing. A lot of people could learn from them.
Okay but aside from the being warias, their lifestyle is haram as all heck, drinking, prostituting, sleeping with men...
Yeah, but they don't really have much of a choice when it comes to their lifestyle... For example, I don't think they'd be able to get a "real" job, because no one would want to hire them. They need money to eat, so obviously they turn to prostitution.
The drinking is probably a coping mechanism for the shitty situaction they're in. If only people would be a bit more open minded, maybe they wouldn't have to live this way.
I guess I didn't think of the cycle of things. It's sad
Cierra Cole your life is haram.
Lasha K I mean I guess, aren't ours all...
Cierra Cole I'm Indonesian-Australian Born in australia inonesian parents and i use both islamic values and sundanese values i believe adultery is wrong i'm half with intoxicants definetly against gambling.
This is so wholesome and eye opening, I'm Indonesian, and Yogyakarta is my mom's hometown, and she told me about this 'pesantren' it intrigued me, but since I'm still small back then when she told me, I never look it up or do some research about it. So glad that VICE had this! Now I know how is it like to be a waria and a devoted muslim in this country.
this is such a great documentary, thank you for this💕 I'm an indonesian, our social life here is pretty difficult, we dont have any tolerance for LGBT community (maybe some of us support it, but not as much as them who is not).
In some other Muslim countries they would get beaten or even killed. I think they are lucky being born in Indonesia regarding that.
BTW these people have made more conscious decisions in their lives and are more aware of their lives than most people I know.
Xeno even if in Rome those Ladyboys will got Lynched or if in US they will get Mocked and diss
Off course. Since our country (Indonesia) is not a Islamic country with sharia law. Just muslim majority country
We have plenty of them in Pakistan, they are more than safe here. There are no such Islamic teachings that would put them at risk. People however, have attached superstitions to them and they mostly don't have good jobs.
Xeno my country is a Muslim country and they don't get beaten its about the conservative society not religion you need to stop making lies
Bergr B no middle East is safe noo need for lies we never killed them and if they did it's not about religion transsexuals are more accepted than gays cuz most of them are born with mixed hormones so in Islam anything you are born with and can be Scientifically proved is not wrong
No comment.. I do not want to judge people
I always thought Indonesia’s most popular religion was Hinduism, not Islam. Interesting
I love Maryania shes like a mom to the rest of them and they need that cause alot of them families disown them so they need that extra support ❤️
Everyone has the right to worship God, but to twist religion to accommodate one's perverse desires that are the antithesis of what the given religion preaches, is sacrilege.
Why make excuses to lead a haram way of life and pretend it is halal? This is the zenith if innovation, & heretic by all means.
errr before your decided to be an ignorant narrow judgemental bigot, what about you study more into ur own religion..from what I have read, being transgender or transexual IS NOT HARAM in Islam u idiot, it is natural and some people are born tht way.. and I quote
"According to the scholar and hadith collector An-Nawawi:
A mukhannath is the one ("male") who carries in his movements, in his appearance and in his language the characteristics of a woman. There are two types; the first is the one in whom these characteristics are innate, he did not put them on by himself, and therein is no guilt, no blame and no shame, as long as he does not perform any (illicit) act or exploit it for money (prostitution etc.). The second type acts like a woman out of immoral purposes and he is the sinner and blameworthy.[3]
Furthermore there is the observation of Ibn Abd Al-Barr who was a contemporary of An-Nawawi:
The mukhannath is not only the one who is known to be promiscuous. The mukhannath is (also?) the one who looks so much like a woman physically that he resembles women in his softness, speech, appearance, accent and thinking. If he is like this, he would have no desire for women and he would not notice anything about them. This is one of those who have no interest in women who were permitted to enter upon women".....
Next time you might want to read more, in stead of being an asshole to ur fellow muslims..
asri hashim Hey genius, you may be getting transgender & hermaphrodite confused. Hermaphrodite/Intersex individuals are born with ambigous genitals of both sexes.
Sigh, obviously it is not their fault.
Transgender is not the same thing & is most definitely haram.
Tone your overzealousness down a notch & try opening a Quran or reading from Sahih Hadith.
Your da'if Hadith prove nothing other than that you are trying to defend a lifestyle against the Sunnah of the Rasullulah (P.B.U.H.).
Good luck with that.
asri hashim excuse me fellow brother?
But actually it is strongly forbiden to be a man and be with a man this is literally in a hadith no matter what you have allah does not make mistakes by giving a male body a female soul so this is also a concistency in your argument and also did you cope and paste some of your argument cus im getting the idea you did but no hate ^^
+proqurn RESPECT
prqurn TOTALLY AGREE
What is wrong with those who say this is wrong? Well if you are such a good Muslim then let God judge, who are you to judge? I rather see more transsexual Muslims like him/her than seeing closed minded radical Muslims who makes life on earth hell for others because of their ignorance and judgments. Btw I am a Muslim too who follows the pillars of Islam strictly.
God bless maryani, i'm tearing up. she has such a huge heart.
i am an indonesian and i'm proud of her and what her do. her vision about God and heaven is so far the bestest one i ever hear. its not about our gender or how we dress ✊✊
also lmao i hope indonesia can be this open
Alhamdulilah i am a muslim and i love Indonesia
Are you a Muslim or Christian? Your username contradicts your statement
This is ridiculous. God is not pleased with this at all. This is the devils work. Smh. Sick and sad.
Amen 🙌🙌
Did you talk to him or did you read that in a book some guy who didn't know the earth was round wrote while in the desert?
Umm no
lord Shrek welcomes all, Shrek is love, Shrek is life
God pleased. He just told me so.
*It's entertaining to read some comments, "It's against Islam" or "It's against every word in the Quran" ... I'm going to throw this news flash out, welcome to the 21st centenary. If you want respect at the end of the day, respect everyone for who they are. Straight, bisexual, homosexual. Transgender. You are all human beings.*
You are wrong Islam does not reject these people because they're born like this, god created all kinds of people with different issues to test mankind and how we treat these people. Islam says it's our responsibility to take care of these people so they don't have to go and work as prostitutes, or go in the wrong direction to support themselves. It's the people who take religion and twist it to what makes them comfortable because of cultural norms. Don't confuse Islam with culture. The Islamic government has a big responsibility towards these people and it's not their fault they have to choose prostitution to eat because no one allows them to work in other fields.
Aku suka sama ustadnya, dia menerima waria2 tsb dan menilai mendidik mereka adalah panggilannya. Walaupun waria adalah hal yang dibenci oleh Tuhan tapi ustad tersebut melayani agar para waria tersebut bisa belajar agama dan lebih mendekatkan diri dengan Tuhan sang sumber damai sejahtera. Saya salut karena masih ada yang peduli dengan mereka terlebih lagi untuk mendidik, bukan menghujat. Teringat bahwa ustad tersebut memiliki kesamaan teladan yang dimiliki oleh Yesus, Markus 2:17 (TB) Yesus mendengarnya dan berkata kepada mereka: "Bukan orang sehat yang memerlukan tabib, tetapi orang sakit; Aku datang bukan untuk memanggil orang benar, melainkan orang berdosa."
Jesus Loves all muslims.
And Muslims love Jesus
+Don Mx if Muslims truly love Jesus, then Muslims seek the True Life and teachings of Jesus. not what the Koran says
+Don Mx the World of God in the Bible does not change. the Koran change the narration in the Bible. so it is the Koran that corrupted the Bible and its own teachings.
AL YBZ fuck of careful saying shit like this about the quran is like sighing you're death penalty
AL YBZ and we love Jesus too...jesus was a prophet of Allah.
These comments make me pissed off. First you have to know that there's nothing in the Quran that it's haram. Hpmosexuality is haram in the Quran but not transsexualism. In irak and iran etc its legal to be trans and the state will pay for your gender resentment surgery. What the point is is that it isn't culturally accepted, but the real Islamic leaders tell that this isn't haram and transsexuals are a loud to get surgery. So before some of you Muslim's say that it's haram look at your own sins and study the Quran.
The translation isn’t that accurate but it’s okayy it hits the spot
Lmao they acted like they were paid for their performance in Indonesia we pay street performers to leave and stop bothering customers
Hey it's still a living.