Transylvania's Gábor - between tradition and modernity | DW Documentary
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- Опубліковано 8 кві 2021
- For 500 years, Transylvania’s Gábor people have held onto their values and rituals. This film explores the insular world of the Gábor Roma, and asks whether they can maintain their traditional lives in a globalized world.
The Romanian village of Karácsonyfalva is the center of the Gábor Roma community. More than 1,000 Gábor live there. The men wear large black hats, the women long skirts. The men travel all over Europe as traders, while the women raise the children. Most Gábor belong to the Adventist denomination. Many only learned to read in order to study the Bible. Abstaining from pork and above all from alcohol and tobacco makes them targets of curiosity. Considered aristocratic among the Roma people, the Gábor have their own laws in all areas of life. Problems are solved within the community; in cases of conflict, even the police turn to the community leaders. Their biggest and most important celebration is the wedding, the foundation of their society. Gábor marry exclusively among themselves. For this reason, girls are removed from school at age 11 and married at 14. Boys move from organized education to the "school of life" at 14. This documentary follows the marriage of 14-year-old Mundra to 16-year-old Bobbi, while giving a portrait of their families and the wider community. For the first time, they share an insight into their exciting, colorful, contradictory and insular world, in which wealth and poverty collide. This is a tight-knit community, one caught between tradition and the pressures of modernity.
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It's amazing to see the contrasting difference at the end. The wealthy family wants to keep tradition the same while the poor families see a way out of poverty through education
This is how the rich remain rich.
But I like the poor family's house better!
Well why would they want change? Change is always facilitated by poor and marginalised people because they're literally dying because of the status quo.
When you have money and are rich why change things?
Typically, it's the opposite. Wealth generates worldliness (through exposure) and lack of wealth shelters and keeps people thinking insular. Interesting development.
"Employment is viewed as servitude and a breach of Gabor tradition."
I have found my long lost people.
It doesn't mean they don't work, they probably refer to work where you have to bend your back and they seem kinda chubby for it. I concur, after adding some 20 pounds in the last year.
😂
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@gabiv100 what does that mean ?
@@shahee6579 that I put on 20 pounds? Hard to bend, to get the socks on.
The way the mother in law treated her new daughter was beautiful 💜
This documentary should be shoved down the throats of all those geniuses in the west who still think that gypsies are just brown indians and they all came from india.
"romani" is not a race or a skin color.
@@FriendlyCroock bro you are gypsy?
@@FriendlyCroock k
Elaine X, It really warmed my heart ❤️
Agreed
I am from Romania and I knew one of those guys, I think he appears in this video at the church scene. He was the father of a friend of mine growing up. The kid was very smart, but dropped out of school after the elementary because his father said that that's enough. They used to make rain drains for roofs and that was what their family has done for generations. I ran into him last year I think and he now has a construction company doing the same thing but on a bigger scale and and kids even though he is just 23. They grow up faster. One thing I always appreciated is their sens of family, even though they were nomadic and moved from region to region to find business, their elder was always in charge and they all respected him.
Bine că macar ai lucruri bune de dpus despre ei. Multi nu ii suporta deloc
Some Indian communities where the Romas come from have a similar mentality. They would try to run a business and most boys drop off after having learnt to read and write. However, they can be exclusivists and this causes problems with the locals in Mumbai etc.
"How much color do you want?".
Gabors: "Yes".
Yeah, Indian traditions and stuff. That's what roma people are like basically everywhere.
Scary beauty for certain.
Lmao
🤣🤣🤣
How lovely is to have a mother in love like her
Minimalism is definitely not their thing 😌
More is More is Gabor!
You gave me a real good laugh after a hard days work, thank you! :)
I'm minimalist living! I'm hoping they will have a documentary about not wealthy Gabor!
So this is where ex soviet block brothels get their decorators from? all gabor style!
@@cruiserandtraveller Are you a Gabor? Pardon, but it sounds as though you are a minimalist Gabor by your comment, though I might be misunderstanding, and if so, I do apologize. However, I am genuinely curious, and with respect. I find the Gabor culture fascinating. How clean the villages are is also quite admirable.
I really enjoyed this one. It was great learning about their culture. It would be amazing if a follow-up could be done in the future
Hi, Thora! There are no plans for a follow-up but thanks for expressing an interest in finding out more. :)
Ok mabe in the future I hope. But Thank you for making it anyways
Wast your house from the reasons I have a great day and you go in on you have a lot of a week of the reasons did you go in on a hellie to work on the way 😊😊 day 🇯🇲 I will try you 🇯🇲 I think I can do that 😍 is you can come to the store 😂 the kids are in and out of my life my life is a kid to call yourself and you have a hellie and I think I have a great day and I think I can 🥫 it out I guess I can 🇯🇲🇱🇷💦🦶🦵 to call 😂🤙🙂 I will try to get it difodkk to and you have to be a 🙅♀️ ugh 😂😫😫 I can 🥫 it 😃🐱 and we
@@kiarasmith-beckford1579 Something here is lost in translation. Sorry Kiara! You do sound very happy and upbeat but cannot understand what you are trying to say!
This reminds me of the culture my family escaped from in the Ukraine. It breaks my heart when traditions are valued over freedom and building your own life. This was fascinating and yet painful to watch due to memories. When I was 14 years old, I was spending time with my friends and doing well in school. I can’t possibly fathom having to worry about being married off. You’re still a child, regardless of having undergone puberty or not. As interesting as this can be to outsiders, it’s different when you were a part of this kind of culture and managed to escape.
Freedom is all relative I suppose. I’d rather be 18 years old and a Gabor then 18 years old and being drafted into the Israeli defense force for war. If you don’t know it exists, then you are free.
Shoot, for all we know, human bickering is an example of how enslaved we are on this planet. Maybe there’s other planets with humans on it that are far more utopian and “free”
@@mistereearly1141 Hey I don't appreciate that you compare one pain with another. This is not a competition and I am so tired of all the time hearing about the same problems and same cultures, the world is big and so is it's problems! You are comparing guns with being forced to sleep with some one as a very young woman/man. Who the hell can choose? Trauma either way.. open your eyes for the rest of the world, some one could say your problem is "small". There is always worse...and we are watching a video about the Gábor, not Israel..
Yes I agree, I am Hungarian and I saw the video from a diffrent point of view. Yes beautiful clothes and people etc , yes an interesting culture but many other things also, if we just read between the lines. But I respect them and they have a purpuse like all of us here on earth.
I totally agree. As a teacher, my heart bleeds when I see the enslavement of girls.
I believe it’s finding that sweet balance where traditions are not lost but built upon and incorporated into the modern world.
Sushku - the girl who studies, I hope she achieves everything she dreams of.
No you don't. You are shallow. Stop acting like you are superior. There are very few people achieve everything he/she dream of. (You probably care about only the womans.)
In this world you only can achieve everything if you only care about yourself. If you care about others or you want to make the world better you will fail.
@@Zodroo_Tint Who hurt you man
@@idek7438 probably failed their dream because they used to "care" about others lol
@@Zodroo_Tint I think your understanding of what shallow is has been limited by core education. I do not blame you, I blame your parents. It is by dreaming that humanity went from homeless hunters to farms to civilization
Seriously, and gtfo out there
People: Money can't bring you happiness
Gábor: Hold my gold bar
Perchik:
Money is the world's curse.
Tevye:
May the Lord smite me with it. And may I never recover.
The video maker makes so much of education, tell that to my university friends- from electrical Engineering with degrees. All are unemployed and works as labourers and shop keepers and drivers. But those who study the humble building profession are earning big money. I was unemployed and for nearly ten years and doing stupid jobs despite I had 69% in Electrical and Electronic Engineering. Then went into plumbing etc and now I earn 55000 pounds a year.
Normie
OMG! I cannot find the right words to describe my feelings and thoughts! Another masterpiece from the DW documentary! This is an amazing documentary! I have enjoyed every single minute! Such a great pleasure to know that in our world this type of diversity exists! I am also from a traditional country. Now I am living in the Baltic country but I brought my tradition also with me. I am proud of my customs and I think this is awesome that we are different from each other! It makes us unique! Dear, DW Documentary, I invite you to my country! You will see a lot of diversity in my country.
Thank you for an amazing job!
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So you are proud of child marriage? I am all for different cultures and traditions but child labor, children getting married and female circumcising are barbaric and should be outlawed.
@@anniefraser gipsey They are not Europeans, they do not have European culture and they do not have the European language. They come from India. That's the way it is with them, barbarism
@@teodorugabriel2175Totally agree! Let everybody enjoy their cultures and traditions - but keep them in their own countries and not import them to Western Europe.
The old man who repair all things, I just amazed what he said at the end of the interview, when he was asked to choose food or money then he suddenly answered him "I am satisfied"
Mans literally build a whole ass mansion because he was depressed due to his father's death. How do I learn his ways ?
May be he buys expensive cars and jewelleries when he's sad..lol.
You find Jesus Christ in your life, but realize that's difficult for you, as you think your Leroy Brown.
Such a smart way to Mourn!
@Reality Tube Hey, it is a Federal Crime to use the CIA Banner on any site unless you are on official CIA Business. A lot of patriots or Officers have died in action. I suggest you pull it Grasshopper.
Ancient patriachal order. You need to be born into this level of old fashioned bs.
10 seconds in and I’m impressed by the snapping
I liked the snapping very much so lol
🤣🤣🤣🤣
the what??
V
Lmao this comment 😂
Until this docu appeared in my feed, I was unaware of the Gabor. Forever curious about different ethnic groups, I watched it with great interest. I won’t judge them for their heritage, culture and traditions, but they are indeed an rather unique people. My primary concern is how can an insular community of 1,000 people living in the same town for 500 years keep their gene pool from becoming polluted due to inter-family marriages and related offspring? It appears like a natural breeding ground for mental and physical defects.
my thoughts exactly - very interesting though!
Indeed. I would expect a high rate of genetic disorders. I haven't watched the whole video yet. I wonder if this will be addressed.
That is why so many of them look similar; they are all closely related to the others in the community. If there are people with genetic defects (as there must be some), they would hide them from the world.
I thought the girl said they were related
@@leflann2633 she did say that
I love the fact that thr mother in law understands that her new daughter in law and her own son are still just kids. She takes such good care of them. I know many people who should have that mentality too
But yet it was fine for them to be married off, forced to have sex and the girl is expected to get pregnant quickly.
The thing about keeping marriage within the same community when the community is so small.... is that all of them looks the same!
@Indian Weeb Desu 😂😂😂
These comments are ignorant. And racist. No?
@@roefully In-breading is just never healthy. Race or tradition doesn't impact biology
I don't think there's any racist undertone in my comment, inbreeding happens/happened in many races and cultures but it is never a healthy thing. And the only ignorance here is one that denies the danger and tragedy that inbreeding brings.
Inbreed for sure
His wife was like “ Stop telling all our business, I ain’t got to love you, I’m here aren’t I !”
Their conversation reminded me of the song "Do you love me?" from Fiddler on the Roof.
@@vandergrad YES!!! I was literally thinking that.
Do I love him?
For twenty-five years I've lived with him
Fought with him, starved with him
Twenty-five years my bed is his
If that's not love, what is?
Then you love me?
I suppose I do
And I suppose I love you too
It doesn't change a thing
But even so
After twenty-five years
It's nice to know
Lmao she definitely wasn't in it for love
That's cute🤩🤩🤩🤩, LOL‼️‼️‼️❗❗❗❗
I'm gobsmacked by how the people in this community all look the same not to mention how they view marrying of their young children at such a young age as being normal 😳🇦🇺
Exactly! Im baffled by all the 'Beautiful culture!' comments. The kids are married young, the girls are pulled out of school early, unable to wear trouser and have to hide their hair forever, and unable to get out of the house, thus they're all overweight due to the lack of physical activities.
This is the most interesting documentary I’ve seen in years!
The guilded bedroom set is sending me over....And here I am, sleeping on an IKEA platform bed, like a commoner
I was literally just on that part as I read your comment, it looks like a royal bedroom for goodness sake!
@@Lara-xu3yc Legit! Like, I'm not saying it's over the top for a 13 yo, but like, where do you go from there?
Yeah it's fancy that's for sure
Its a bit loud for my taste...lol.
Well you are living like a Queen, because I sleep on an Ikea sun bed. 😂 Nothing says you have slipped down in class than sleeping on garden furniture 😂😂😂 The only up side is saving space and the backrest has several reclining position.
They seem calmly accepting of the fact that their kids and grandkids will cause the end of their traditions. Very interesting. No bitterness or anger about it.
Because they will most likely die before that happens, so it's out of their hands. Can't really do anything about it except enjoy the good times while they last.
I thought the same thing. It’s commendable.
I did find this interesting it seems like poorer families want their kids to be able to provide for themselves and are willing to let them lead their own lives
The wealthy family by comparison sees it coming but they aren’t actively allowing their kids to “break tradition”
Culturally speaking they have been used to hardship so maybe due to that it is easier to accept this as a fact of life.
They probably keep the hat. Looks american and they like american stuff.
I am Hungarian, and I want to point out, that during the film, they are talking in 3 different languages... even the children... not necessarily on the highest level, but this is still amazing. We often forgot that these communities are talking multiple languages.
Thanks for watching and for sharing your thoughts on the topic.
Hi Luca greetings from Ireland 🇮🇪 to Hungary 🇭🇺. It’s a good video. Best wishes for a lovely day 😊🙏 Michael
Did they say the wedding at the Sarkany family? Isn’t that a common Hungarian name?
Which communities?
Thanks a lot DW Documentary for bringing up such a beautiful story that's otherwise unseen
Thank you for watching, Tanzim!
Tell you one thing those Gabor sure ain't malnourished.
ALL A BIT ON THE HEAVY SIDE
@@peterpyke1213 Just big boned people is all..
You can be overweight and still malnourished. That’s like most Americans.
At least they can walk 🤣
Yea on the heavy side as you can see
I thought I was the one who noticed it. 😂
"By age of 35, they are grandmothers".
Me: 45 and single male with no children.
Me also: Happy as a clam.
Sounds lonely and sad, tbh.
@@Chrisko1492 to some it sounds lonely. But I do find solace in exploring the world. Engaging with people. Observing nature and humanity (or the lack thereof), studying philosophy, having a dog and dating. If I were to have a child I would adopt. Too risky to get married these days.
Clammed as a clam too :))
Solitude is all good while you're still strong and healthy...
@@Chrisko1492 no it's not, the world is much more, but the majority of people think that the REAL happiness live in marriages, parties, money...
THE WORLD IS MUCH MORE INTERESTING. DON'T BE TRAPPED.
I found this documentary very interesting. Thank you.
I enjoyed this little peek into the Gabor way of life which seems so peaceful.
This is the most chaotic wedding I have ever seen in my life lol
On TLC you can watch " gypsy wedding ". Same thing.
You should see a Bangladeshi wadding
@beentheredonethat Indeed. They mention India several times in the documentary.
AGREED! Hahah, cackling hens abound! So loud! What a riot, I didn’t know where to look!!!!
@StarryPluto idk where's your degree from lol
I find different group’s beauty standards and home decor very interesting.
interesting?! ever wondered why they look the same? jupp - because they are all related -
diplomatic.
Joe Sure, Not they are one community- more often then not, one family (regional) one reigns in luxury-the other in dirt. It is a lot of shallow show- little substance of actual Care. And before anyone says anything… I know and worked with several hundreds of em
i dont think one of them is pretty. Not one...I promise I'm not trying to be mean but damn
@@SuperVistaprint true
What a very interesting video. It's like living in a forgotten world!
DW documentary, I been watching your gems since few years, thank you for showing me corners of our bountiful world that I would never seen somewhere else, never ceased to fascinate your audience.
Thanks a lot for watching and for your positive feedback, Bika. We appreciate you taking the time to comment and are glad you like our content! :)
Can’t believe this villager actually wealthier than European standards
Yeah, good business practice since the fall of communism 1990. Travelling to western europe a lot and making use of the cheap property prices in eastern europe.
They seem to hate employment and prefer to take the risks of entrepreneurship.
I am sure the majority fail, but the few ones that actually make it, create a source of revenue that can scale depending on the consumer's demands.
High risk high reward. I m sure out of every 100 trades, only 10-5 succeed meaningfully.
What european standard?
because they go around of Europe stealing and begging and then send the money back to their village...
@@BlasaGo ok they don't really do this. The Roma don't make their money this way, lol...
I grew up in Transylvania surrounded by the Gabors. They are honest and genuine people
tényleg?
@@davidlaczko6858 Nem tud románul
I wonder if they have crime in the community. If it's they have zero crime I want to let live with them.
Én sürün látogattam Erdélyi rokonokat gyermek koromban év tizedeken keresztül. Ez nem egy igaz erdélyi documentári.
@@riah8600 Erdély magyarországhoz tartozik. Erdély ezer éve magyar
Thank you for this wonderful glimpse into the Gabor culture! They appear to be very happy abiding their traditions. 👍
so nice to constantly be in defiance of state laws, not to pay taxes, get welfare every month ... ideal citizens
It's not often you see so many people that are very well-off, whilst being highly congenial, warm, and practicing strong family values...
Throughly enjoyed learning this beautiful video!
One thing I will say is that the brides mother in law is the sweetest lady ever. Like she’s so nurturing it’s so nice
Women education is important in life , if her mother is good then she should support her study not worried for marrying and doing children ..
I agreed. We would all be so blessed if our mother in laws treated us with such unconditional love.
The long hug the young bride gave her father or grandfather brought a tear to my eye.
@@timeittakestoletgo1687 maam love is everywhere , but education is important
It's actually cool that I can understand what they're saying
Bride: We knew each other before we were engaged because we were related...
This is the first comment I've seen, I was like oh so we're just going to blow right past that? Ok.
Yeah child marriage and incest its the "tradition"
Roll tide brother!
Alabama of Europe
@@ert5585 lol
It is amazing to get this close up look at such a distinct and insular people, for the good and bad of their tightly adhered to traditions.
This is an absolutely fantastic documentary. I was all smiles from ear to ear watching this. I hope DW team will find more subjects like this but of other ethnicity or nation. Thank you. I've watched a lot of Turkish TV series and the Gabors have a bit of cultural traits/practices with the conservative Turks.
Need a follow up in a couple of years so interesting
It's really interesting how they speak hungarian at home, romanian in church, scool and business, and romani in ceremonial occasions.
Yes, we should send them to Hungary 😂 you'll enjoy them.
@@ferdinand8994 Don't you dare. We have more here than we want.
Yes, it was wonderful to hear Hungarian from them. I’m living overseas for a few decades now. They seem like they are decent people. I hope they can keep their traditions.
@@lighteningbug7 Decent people don't force 14 year olds to get impregnated.
@@triarb5790 yes, some people are so dum and naive in these comments.. I respect the culture but kids getting married has never been my cup of tea. That's their life and I respect it but I don't agree with that
I wish that y'all had included more from the perspective of the families that are not as fortunate in the village, as well as how the younger people view their traditions.
Totally agree would’ve been better to show the differences and especially the young girls that had dreams other than becoming housewives.
They live as they can, doing menial work and working the land for just enough food and money to get on with the next day. The traditions they have are the common ones, x-mass, easter and so on. When she finishes HS she will have to decide if she wants to stay in the dead end village or try moving to a town or city to get an unskilled job find a boyfriend and move together to be able to afford rent. Learning spanish from soap operas and going abroad to pick fruit in the summer is a well established practice.
College is unlikely, because these village schools are lousy and are unable to provide thorough enough education to actually keep someone going trough a single exam session. But still possible as there are guaranteed minorities spots in every university. Having to pay rent in a city would be a nightmare tho.
This is not only her destiny as a minority, everyone in that school shares this curse, the Gabors are well off because of "trading", the rest of the village is still going medieval.
Fascinating to watch,gave me great insight into the culture. It was a pleasure to watch.
A shame DW felt the need to censore what the man at 1:15 says. He says "We are Gabor Gypsies", not "We are the Gabor". Gabors are very proud to call themselves gypsies, I actually saw Gabors arguing that they are not to be called rroma, they are gypsies and proud of it, despite the EU rhetoric being that the term is racist. They indeed insist on doing things "their way", regardless of laws, social norms, or how it affects those around them etc. Oh, and for those wondering, Karacsonyfalva is Craciunesti in Romanian, it lies on the Niraj river valley (Nyaradmente) in Mures county. About 15-20 km by car from Targu Mures (depeding which side you approach it).
Regarding what they deal with and how they make a living, most have indeed inherited valuable items hidden by their forefathers from the communist regime (maybe some of dubious origin), some are still copper workers (sell copper dishes at festivals and fairs for ex.), tinsmiths, roofers, some indeed travel western Europe and bring back items to resell (some items bought, some stolen, counterfeit, found in dumpsters throw away by western Europeans...nobody really knows), of course without legal forms (unregistered) and paying tax, so on paper they have no income and receive welfare. In Transylvania you can easily spot them due to their garments and their cars which most of the time have Hungarian, Polish and Lithuanian licence plates, for (to Romanians) obvious reasons ...
100% agree with all you said
Indeed!
Dodgy!
Truth
It's funny that the "documentary's" rhetoric is all about "oh how will their traditions survive globalization" when clearly their mentality of the people making this is a globalist one because purpousefuly avoid translating a term that western euope considers "problematic" or straight up racist.
it's interesting how they switch between Hungarian, Romani and Romanian languages.
I'm from Romania...first of all they live in a city that was part of Hungarian Empire and untill now there live many of them. So in that city people will speack romanian,hungarian and theyr dialect. The problem with many of them is that they woun't accept romanian as main language. For example if they will go to Bucharest they will be forced to talk romanian because there no one talks hungarian ore other dialects.
@@r.b.7368 frate ce vorbești? e plin de unguri in București. ideea era că era interesat cât de repede schimabau limba când vorbeau cu alți țigani. deci de unde așa zisa lecție de istorie?
@@r.b.7368lol why is it a "problem" that they want to speak hungarian?
@@compout2 why are you feeding the troll?
@@ythelldoineedahandle seemed like a genuine comment to me ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ my bad
I felt so much fascinated by their traditions and customs. I felt kind of being in dreams felt so peaceful.
This culture should be preserved. It is owesome. In fact it should be recognised as the world heritage.
Just the name "Global Citizen" says it all! T
he globalism is to BLAME why where are not having anymore of our costumes traditions and culture (genocide) due to forced multicultural trough;
EVIL European Union, WEF, UN, Open Borders, Agenda 2030(21), New World Order that destroyed our European northern countries :(
We had before all this safety, security, unity, family togetherness, freedom & prosperity to share and uphold our thousands of years; Family/nations costumes, traditions and culture
This was wonderful to watch. I feel touched by something beautiful just from learning more about them.
"Who are you?"
"Gabor"
"And you?"
"Gabor"
"What about you?"
"I'm also gabor"
"Let me guess, you are..."
"Yes, i'm gordon"
LMAO
Eva and Zsa Zsa Gabor were probably related, as well.
Gábor is their family name. Like Smith, nothing special.
Took my American husband to a Hungarian party the first 4 women I introduced him to were all named Andrea plus my middle name is Andrea & also my mother’s first name is Andrea so you know it’s a thing….
@@Zodroo_Tint they said in the video that everyone is named Gabor. Last name or first name.
Jesus, when I was 14, I was making my sims characters get married. I couldn't imagine being 14 and actually getting married, yikes. She's way too young.
biologically, you are ready as soon as you bleed - they seem to mature fast, look at the 50 year old dude looking like an 80yr old granpa
@@lolbots not really true, the fetuses of young mothers are often sick and don't make it.
Not really it’s only in modern times that people for married at a later date . We are just an immature society
@@piotrkowracist9094 that’s not true my mom was 13 when she had my older sister and 15 when she had me
@@panchopistola8298 Not true, teenage marragies were considered weird in western culture even in the medival times.
Very cool to learn of the different cultures!
35:54 her Titanic print skirt is so adorable 🛳
I love the way he declares the love of his beautifull wife.Then shows his wife's skirts.
Good greif they eat well.The word diet must be a word never spoken.
Notice no rubbish on their streets.
I noticed that there were no tags on the walls too
I also noticed everyone seemed was pleasantly plump, must mean their food is amazing right??
Bones and whatever other trash that is produced likely gets buried. That has been common practice at 1990 and before~. My grandparents used to throw all trash into "compost" pile and neighbours would burry theirs.
That is so funny you mentioned the diet... Which apparently doesn't exist! Every woman is very sturdy in girth!
@@constancelee6724 they got a lot of diet, its diet everywhere u can see, what u mean it dont exist
This makes My Big Fat Greek Wedding look like a Junior High dance 😂😂😂
Hahaha
You probably haven't seen an indian wedding
Bitch please xd
The south italian wedding has no end,period
@@czarina1210 or nigerian
@@czarina1210 roma was actually came from india so it's pretty much similar with indian wedding
Great documentary. Fascinating.
Wow, great documentary. Prior to this I only knew of the glamorous Gabor sisters of Hollywood. Eva and Zsa Zsa Gabor.
The parents of the girl who goes to school are right!
Really glad to see they empower her to get a career and study further 💕
is having a career really important?
@@alizaerom1019 bruh what do you mean? It is
@@alizaerom1019 Saying things like that just reinforces the privilege we have. Maybe for you it is not necessary to have a career and it's fine, but for this girl it is the only way to be independent and to provide a better future for her and her family. Didn't you see the part where they marry young girls and they don't have a say about it?
Education is the single more important thing you can give to children to empower them and give them the tools to aspire a better quality of life.
@@alizaerom1019 it is to the western system where from birth your programmed to work borrow buy and die, which is reinforced by the world around you, by friends parents friends media etc its a matrix like system most cant comprehend as there so deeply entwined into it they never see it
I am glad her and her parents are thinking about other things besides marriage
That is quite impressive! All those Gábor people speak at least three languages: their mother tongue, Romani, then Romanian, and Hungarian.
and they are clever and good businessmen, not stupid. The old generation teaches everything important for life. The other is just media lie
That makes four, actually
@@gloriamontgomery6900
Mother tongue is romani
@@gloriamontgomery6900 you read it wrong...
My great-grandmother was Czechoslovakian and Hungarian. She spoke 7 languages!
Loved this!
As much as I enjoyed this the difference between the wealthy Gabor and the poorest the poor recognised that education for their daughter was important at the end when you hear the school children saying their dream jobs my heart broke especially for the little girls,what chances will they have if they’re parents take them out of school so young.
i think the Garbor are educating us. When they said there are some things you can not learn in school..so true..so true..so very true.
@@sissyrayself7508 they need to educate themselves as to the importance of further education for girls/women. Backwards sexist community.
💥🤗🦸♂️ I live in Romania and as a Roamanian now is the first time. When I see how the customs are in the Roma community . I am amazed. even if we live in the same country. We are separated and we have totally different customs.I like to learn about them ..they are interesting people.👍🏻
I'm glad that you saw this video
@Julaybib is My name same as who?
@Julaybib is My name💥💥💥👍🏻 Search on UA-cam. Romanian wedding. Orthodox Christian
@Julaybib is My name u talking shit,the life style of romanians got nothing to do with this gabors!
@Julaybib is My name you are stupid nobody steals these people trade maybe you steal and you are a criminal Romanians don't do that and it is said that there are 500,000 Roma in Romania if you haven't heard the video....you name is not Romanian ..spune ceva in romană vorbeste..
I imagine, in hundreds of years, when there is a depressed Gabor whose dad died, he Will build a whole space station with his bare hands
@@breakinglimited3035 too bad the moon can't be landed on
@@financialwizard5181 what are you on about
They barely go to school, let alone higher education, surely the chosen ones to conquer the galaxy.
This channel is endlessly fascinating!! Never even heard of this way of life. I love UA-cam lol
thank u for showing this video its superb
There’s a lot of things I like about them but I am a bit weirded out by the married couple being related and being so young.
I know what you mean, but still can't help but think that we, the western society on one side allow for couples that young (unmarried) to have sexual relations ......but on the other hand look at communities such as Gabor as weird.
What is marriage if not a lesson of commitment..
The related part is weird though, not just culturally but innate (hereditary) aspects associated with it!!
They were not related.
@@doityourselffixityourself3110 did you watch the video?
@@Mmfmfjdrndb Mundra didn't actually say that they are related. It was translated wrong.
I agree, they marry way to young
I enjoyed every second of this. Really well done documentary.
Hi @thegreatujo, thank you for watching and sharing your feedback!
well made*
@@jgbs8710 *well made
Because you're not Székely ( Transylvanian ). Otherwise you would know better.
@@riah8600 I'm not transilvanian ?! 😅 I've been living in Arad, Romania my whole life. Arad is pretty much transilvania.
Beautiful documentary
Even if their traditions do not survive, it's obvious that their love and sense of community will thrive regardless.
Trust me, their tradition survives😂 They never marry someone that is not gypsy, and to this day they still marry and have kids at a very young age. They have lots of other traditions and crafts too🥰 Also, most of them are nice and kind, they would just don't mix with other nations when it comes to marrying someone or having children.
@Andre Hpunkt They were a migrating community of people with horses and drays and tents, to this day people still don't know where they actually came from.
@ Jamie McCullough Lets hope so. On a side note I like your chainsaws Jamie.
Nah... family values depends on traditions .
As soon as their transitions die, so will their love and sense of community.
Y’all notice how Mundra claimed all of her perfumes and lotions as “hers”, and then corrected herself by saying “ours” when she initially said her husband’s stuff was “his,”? Lol.
What is the different?
Sure did😂
@@Zodroo_Tint in many cultures the women have their own stuff but everything a man owned is also owned by his wife
I was laughing and loving her !
No matter which culture u are , whats mine is mine, what's his is ours
I find this fascinating because of the closeness of the families and as a community they reach out to help others and having a evening meal together
I'm glad to see that they take care of them after their married seeing that they are so young.
If they are still relating and cuddling as siblings at first because they are still so young, I wonder at what age they begin to relate as spouses.
DW, I'm so in love with your documentaries. Always great content no matter what is the topic
So true. DW knows the art of good documentary 👌🏻👏🏻
I feel the same i look forward to them
@cherkkiable - I wanted to write the same so I can only agree with you in 100%. Thanks a lot DW for your work.
Cell phone: new documentary.
Me: 🏃♂️🏃♂️🏃♂️
Hi @cherkkiable, thank you all for the kind words :)
Typical conversation in this village:
„Hey, Gabor!“
„Hello Gabor!“
„How has your day been so far Gabor?“
„Not much, just taking a walk with my grandson, Gabor-Junior over here“
Lol hahahahhahahahaa
Have You seen ZhaZha Gabor ??
Amazing documentary
Very beautiful documentary. Many good things to learn from the Gabor people.
Like what?
@@saardet5442
fashion
@@ScrawneyRonnie lol
I’m actually shocked at how loving and supportive the community is, just due to the high religious connotations of the culture. Very refreshing.
The rich get rich off human trafficking forced prostitution and benefits fraud crime all over Europe
The rich get rich off human trafficking forced prostitution and benefits fraud crime all over Europe
He said dont shame the family. Refreshing to see a functional family.
What a coincidence that you write these thoughts, because i was thinking that if the video was about some people in some region of my country who live and marry exactly in the same way - exactly except for the age of marrying and age of leaving school - the comments would be so insulting towards horribke muslim traditions.
Everything is the same, the gifts on the bed, the money to the family except that women guests give money to the mother while men give it to the father.
The father says exactly the same thing to his daughter before she leaves her home. And there are always tears on the bride's family cheeks.
Also the men are still served first in these communities, and men and women are still separated when the guests are not relatives.
nah! They are just pretending. It boils down to either you are rich or pious. You can not sit on 2 chairs at the same time....Just Gypsies
I could watch 3 hours of this. Love the togetherness of the families, the respect they have for each other, the colorful clothes, and I wish I could have a meal there cuz I bet the food is awesome!
Hi @thecobaltroom, thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts! 🙂
But what about the child marriage?
@@var7071 14/15 yo might still be young for responsability, but in my opinion, it's not that bad in the context of their culture. In those cumminities, children are raised to maturity quickly. 14/15 yo is also not that young in all other cultures. Even in western countries, people start relationships around or before that age and many of them have sexual experiences by that age. We all know 15 is not a child anymore. In the west, family building, work and the way of living is different: it's more individualistic and capitalist way of life: married couples are expected to be autonomous and completely independent of their families, they must have their own place to live (they don't live with their parents after marriage), have jobs, salaries, etc. For this reason, marriage doesnt make sense at very young ages in the west and many other countries. But I guess in communities such as Gabor which are still largely traditional with farming and family businesses at the center of their lives, married couples live in the same big family house and they work for the family and get help from family, which makes it less harder to get married at a very young age.
@@var7071 and this is also not like pedophilia, the couple are the same age, they are both are teenage. I don't think their older people can marry very young girls. Gabor have a nice culture, it's different but respectable, traditional and lovely.
My grandmas parents were from Budapest and Romania and met in Hungary where they immigrated from when Germany was wiping through the country sides in the early 40s
Let me tell you, that woman could COOK. She was a house wife on steroids, spoke Hungarian Spanish (immigrated to Panama) and English
I wish I could have met my great grandparents and experienced more of the culture
I am so interested with this. Every time I see a docu about these places I felt like I was there before. Their culture, is interesting
*G E K O L O N I S E E R D*
The family letting their daughter get educated are the best ❤
Hi Mary how are you. Greetings from Ireland. It’s nice video. I agree with your comment. Best wishes for a lovely day
🙏 Michael
really?? Because it has turned out so well for all educated women has it? It has been so good for everyone? yeah. What?
Dw is real school, love from Somalia
Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment!
Somali nimo
Not a fan that the kids get married so young but.... But I have to say I am amazed by how the family's are supportive of each other they have such a beautiful traditions that they share and pass down from generation to generation. ...
I completely agree. I saw beautiful traditions but also things I think could change for the better. I love that they care for their elders. I bet none are in old folk homes all alone .
Honestly, I wish I had been married off that young. Woulda saved me alot of trouble
The kids not doing anything together.
I know, it crazy how half way through when the MIL was talking about how she takes care of her and her son because they’re so young and shouldn’t have to worry about anything. I guess I understand that they’re afraid of their daughters getting snatched for brides, so they make them brides first to boys of their choosing, but they’re literal children being “married” (I use quotations because they make sure not to go through the church to make it legal). I appreciate how there is the option that if she decides she’s homesick or is unhappy she can leave and go home. But I’m assuming that that probably brings some sort of shame associated for not making the marriage work.
Yes roma people many time force their kids marry at a young age. 16. Its still a child. 😐
THE COLORS AND DESIGNS! So intricate and lively! What an beautiful group of people!!!
You would not like to live near to them believe me.
This is the most wholesome way to live. I love it!!! ❤️
They are so genuinely devoted, they really meant it when they were praying. Such clean colourful houses, and how they love their children and families so much, it was so touching the way she tells her daughter in law how cherished she is, what an amazing community. Thumbs up
It broke my heart seeing her cry as her dad tells her good bye
I cried like a baby at my wedding when my dad “gave me away” because I’ve always been a Daddy’s Girl! And I was less than 30 days until my 25th BD at the time. People who love each other and are close, tend to be emotional when family structures change.
After seeing this wedding... There is no doubt that these people's ancestors were from North India... 😛
It could be that they are hebrew people
If u see how the mens are dressed and the language
Corect
@@azamatbagatov1891 brother it's more than 1400years . Definetely they have changed a lot.
After seeing how much they like to scam people... yeah I've got no double either
One way to know for sure , to smell them.
Loved the documentary, it's good to know about other cultures but I feel sorry for Gabor Kids. Every child has a right to go to school. That is the minimum basic requirement. Hats off to the other family who is sending their daughter to school. They are not rich or affluent but they understand the value of education and that's make them the wealthiest and wisest of them all. Many wishes to each n every Gabor Kid.
Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment.
They are actually from lands of India. So it is not different culture. Romani are Indian origin people.
Actually they want them to study and learn their trade, to keep the family business alive, something no school will ever teach you. So I don't agree with you there. Education is important, and they are studying to read and write and do math. Then if you have your own business you want your child to become apprentice at a young age to understand business. What is the point of going to school till 21, if you have to come back to your own family business and all the elders are too old to move around or dead. Usually in such family business the older people like the grandparents train their grandchild, while the fathers run the serious business. Its practical. While the poor family has nothing to loose, their child will study and join some service sector on a salary. That is the difference. Going to school is not what it is cut out to be...it trains you to only get employed and be on a salary. You spend 21 years of your best trainable life in school, how much of what you have studied are you applying to your life. I am not belittling education, but running a family business is no easy feat...These people take pride in not working for others but themselves. Can we say the same for ourselves. Many communities in India have lost their traditional family business because of this nonsense. I wish people were more open to people working for themselves rather preventing them and making them rely on tax payers money and subsidies. Every child has the right to read and write and calculate and train for their family business too. Infact the colonist school have killed the entrepreneurial mindset in rural and other parts of India India.
@@madeshi9292 Education is not about degrees and getting to learn read n write only. Education is also for getting informed globally, it is important for personal growth and having a mindset of one's own. One can study and then join the family business as well. Education or learning something never wasted anyone's time, education is not about writing essays or paragraphs, giving tests on roads or shops. Its important for self growth. Till the time people will think that education is just to get a degree and then some job, they'll consider it a waste of time. Concept of education is not passing classes, its concept is learning. Of course parents can teach their children but with new technologies, new developments they need n should send their children to schools. I wonder how can someone consider education as waste of time.
@@Anewstorytoday Really, education is about getting informed globally? Are you from India? A lot of what is taught in schools today in India are state indoctrination. You don't need to go to school for 21 years to study technology. And actually school education is just that....its about getting some certification and then a job. How many courses have you taken in your school life that is about character and nation building...I am betting there are none. And schools cannot teach these children the trade of their business which is their livelihood. And why do you think that going to school is the only way to attain education. What is the basis for your claim here. I never said education is the waste of time, but to say that schools are the only source of education is pure *BS*. Like you yourself said education is not about degrees, so it shouldn't matter if someone is getting their source of education outside the realm of schools or state indoctrination. And how are you making the second claim, that joining the family business is not a form of education. Have you learnt any skillset in your school to start and run your own business? Nope you haven't nor have I. Thats school for you. 21 years of doing exactly what you say education is not about writing paragraphs, memorizing senselessly and literally learning no skillset to earn your own livelihood independently. So the way I see it and this has been literally the history of many traditional family businesses in India - that are now struggling that in name of education you have the right to prevent someone from learning the skills of trade at a young age and in turn ruin their opportunities to a respectable livelihood and income. No education is never a waste a time, but the fact that only schools can provide education is factually incorrect. I wonder how someone can even live in this small petty thinking after being educated in school. By the way I would love to read about all the skillsets you have learnt from your school to start your own independent business at 21(adult) without taking an income or salary from someone. Its very easy to tell someone how to run their business without knowing anything about their business.
"she was not allowed to leave the house since she turned 12, she has been waiting for this day in 2 years"
no one see anything wrong with that sentence?
They are a cult and the comment section is acting like it's all cute. This is an oppressive cult that entraps the young kids, especially the women by forcefully getting them married early and pregnant with lots of kids so that they are less likely to leave and can't make it on their own in the outside world because they have no education either.
@@MelvinJ64 agreed
The skrit is like Indian bangaram skrit
traditions exist before the 21st century.
@@anonimosu7425 yea some "traditions" need to die and be buried like their like their weird ancestors. This is most definitely a cult.
I love seeing all the less wellknown cultures in y’all’s programs. It helps dispel the popular myth that we live in a violent, hateful world. Thanks for showing us how common love is
Omg!! All that food!! I'd love to experience one of these weddings!! And that hair braiding was beautiful!
I need to turn on my notifications.... I love documentaries about different cultures and it seems DW has many
"They don't marry outside their social group "
Looks like they don't marry outside their own siblings 🙄
Was amazing to see how all of them resembled eachother. Gotta keep it in the family huh
even their pets goes :D
🤣 lol
If Royals and inbreeding is a norm, guess the 'average' citizen will follow their footstep
@@genemechanic6773 speak for yourself my friend. I have my own mind and my own principles
i love it thank you for sharing
Very interesting.
Very Clean people homes and streets are lovely! Love the colorful skirts and clothing. Its so gaudy I somehow adore it! I am Hungarian and remember going to a festival and loving the dancers traditional outfits.
The skirts would look gaudy in our country, yet really suited to them.
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As an introvert person I can't stand with noisy and crowded place but this makes me happy seeing them happy and it tears me too and I like this people and place so peaceful and loving people...
Gypsies take "gaudy" to the next level!!!
Interesting that you would call the ethic flare of your OWN country, "gaudy".
A family that snaps together, stays together.
Wow, so fascinating, very cool how they have hung onto ancient tradition
I'm born and raised in Canada (ethnic hungarian) I knew there were many gypsies in transylvania as its a very multicultural land but its interesting to see even after 100 years after trianon they still speak hungarian. I didn't even know there were different sub groups of gypsy as the gabor s seem to be a distinct group of gypsies. Very interesting documentary.
Do you speak Hungarian? In Romania there's a part of Transylvania (Székelyföld) where 90% of people are Hungarian (Székely). That is where this town is too
but the song is bit indian which rhey sang during wedding. i remember the way the sing is same as my granny used to sing in festivals.
Thats because Romanian government is very tolerable towards minorities, you have the same rights as ethnic Romanians, you can speak your own language, we even have Romanian and Hungarian schools, and if you enter Covasna or Harghita counties, the name of the cities and villages are written in both Romanian and Hungarian.
@@joshuabalazs9519 interesting.. would you know why some of them have blonde hair and blue eyes? I thought Gypsies are dark skinned with dark eyes and hair. Curious here.
@@cosmindvd tolerant yet wont give them autonomy...
1. Awww, that MIL absolutely loves that little girl. I won’t lie, it was pretty adorable.
2. TITANIC PRINT SKIRT?
If a Titanic print skirt was that unappealing to you, i'm glad you didn't notice this 32:46 blouse print! 😛
This is so interesting. I love learning about other cultures!