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Sounds interesting! I'd also enjoy seeing a followup to this particular documentary, finding the couple married in this show, and seeing what their thoughts are now on bride kidnapping -- it's been over a decade since this documentary first aired.
Wtf!!!!! This’s straight up lies!!! I’m from Saudi Arabia there’s 0% of SA in our schools bcuz IT’S NOT MIXED we only have all girls or all boys school
This’s shocking how u ppl would shamelessly accuse islam of the things that happens routinely in ur non muslim countries in my muslim country it’s a CRIM to even cat call women even asking for a woman’s number is considered illegal us muslim women feel the safest in our countries unlike the women in western and non muslim countries the statistics of sexual assault are over the roof yet u have the audacity to make these videos against islam i mean we know it’s a propaganda but unfortunately many ignorants believe it
actually inform yourself before assuming something idiotic. The horrid sexual assualt is forbiden and seen as a major sin to do with Islam because you are harming someone's well being. Disrespect to a religion because you cant tell the difference is real ignorant. I mean how can the historian be more informed about the reality than you?
I'm from Kyrgyzstan. I am Kyrgyz. This is a very wild tradition that is disappearing because girls and women no longer want to tolerate it in our country! And I'm glad of that. They also tried to steal me, but I fought with everyone and still left. I am confident that this cruel tradition will soon disappear.
@@vegasfinest702 Righttttt....because "everyone gets married like this there" means that every single woman there should accept and be happy with the fact that they're being kidnapped.. I bet you would want to live there and be kidnapped too, don't you?
The girl being kidnapped and then 3 men holding her, her yelling mom. My heart broke, I felt so helpless like how she was feeling at that moment. Almost cried.
@Shadowfeather-sb4vc ikr all these fake democrats say they feel bad for other cultures, but when it comes to eating dog and stuff like this, they instantly change their views to fit conservative american morales
it's even scarier when you realize that someone could actually be kidnapping a girl in plain sight with no intention of marrying her and people would just think that it's the tradition.
i actually ended up showing middle finger at phone screen when she cried... she totally listened to society when she should've stood by her side specially when the child said that the man was not a good person. but she chose to go with the society. i so much would've wanted to punch her face if she was doing that drama near me.
She got kidnapped, then they found her, AND THEN SHE GAVE HER BACK WILLINGLY. to be raped and held hostage. Then you know he just kidnapped another bride.. Disgusting. Maybe she should have thought twice as a mother doing that to her baby girl.... That poor fucking girl. I feel bad for HER, not the mother that fucking GAVE HER TO HIM.
@@Supermaninpyjama What do you expect to happen when, as was stated in the video, a society works so hard to make girls obedient from the moment they can probably communicate. Peer pressure, cultural pressure, are things that have effected all people at some point to some degree, unfortunatelythe ramifications can be severe and devastating. How hypocritical and ignorant of you to imbue yourself with so much superiority when you'd stoop so low as to kick someone while they're down. She's going to feel guilty for the rest of her life, no keyboard-coward has the right to pretend to be more upset about something she actually *has* to survive.
The Little Blerdmaid I bet you she wasn’t crying when they took her, a mother should always be protecting her kids at all costs no matter what culture or religion bs you deal with. She let them take her away knowing she didn’t want to, she failed as a parent in my opinion.
You’re wrong. In my country they also used to kidnap brides but nowadays they do it less because they pay a fine for that now, which most of them can not afford, although some pay it willingly. Anyways, you’re wrong about what you said about her mother, she probably didn’t think it was necessary or good for her daughter when they gave her back to the kidnapper. She says in the video, the cousins etc put pressure on them, telling the « it’s tradition ! You’re wrong you shouldn’t take her back ! ». She didn’t develop it but as it was also in my country’s tradition to kidnap brides I can tell you for sure that she didn’t want to give her daughter back but couldn’t do otherwise because she’s a woman and she has to OBEY. So when the male cousins / older men in the family got angry about them bringing their daughter back, when they scolded the girl’s dad for doing so, when they brought up « it’s tradition! » the girl’s dad probably felt ashamed in front of the elder men (cousins, uncles..) and in those societies you HAVE TO respect older men and DO what they tell you to do, the dad probably decided to give the girl back to the kidnaper and the mom couldn’t do anything about it but accept it because SHE IS A WOMAN and she CAN NOT argue with her husband and other men in the family. If she talks back or disobeys she can be beaten or anyways, the men can just bring the girl back to the kidnaper’s house forcefully even if the mother is against. Anyways, I can guarantee you that this mom wasn’t happy about giving her daughter back autherwise they wouldn’t have even brought her home in first place. She just had to accept it because she’s a woman and she can not do anything because men decide and she has to obey. No one can understand her sorrow except those who went through the same thing. That thing happened to my aunt, she was kidnapped and run away but her uncle forced her to get married to her kidnapper whom she didn’t even knew.
@@paulinadrygulska1947 yeah, I can only feel so bad, when she's culpable in her own daughter's death. what kind of a parent would let their kid go through something like that.
@@paulinadrygulska1947 No she didn't allowed the kidnapping. It is stated in the video that they event took their daughter on the next day, however their cousins pressured them saying that it is not right to take the bride and because of the pressure they give in and blessed the marriage. It is just sad that tradition is above their religion and law.
Unless somebody here is from that culture, nobody can really talk about it. You can't speak about things unless you are versed in them. Otherwise you don't know what the hell you are talking about. I can only speak about it from an American perspective, and an American perspective on a Kyrgyzstan tradition is irrelevant
This actually happened to two female tourists a few years back, they got their national embassy involved and were able to return home after about a week.
No. They kiddnapp only women they know. Not strangers. Cmon a little bit of common sens. A tradition is something that belong to them and they societies. So they know each other and the plan everything.... well there is a foreigner in the town who look extact like the bride to be... Ouch! Bad for her
no one's gonna talk about her "friend"? she knew her friend's dream to finish school and become a lawyer yet she lured her into that marriage. And please, the way the grooms men was touching the bride to keep her from moving.
@@condeuiosandilixtos7858 No its about Kidnapping, raping he would get huge Problems wit other family, but kidnapping they tolerate becouse of virgin stupednes. Not that they dont rape every girl they can get without to much trouble afterwords. they have absolutly no feelings and empathy, completly cruel.
Grubby bum yeah I was thinking the same thing she acting like it was there fault she committed suicide but if they would have just ignored there “cousins” and took there daughter back she wouldn’t of hanged herself
@@grubbybum3614 Honestly, when you live within a culture, you think in the terms that culture gives you. She probably really hoped it'd turn out well, only getting a reality check when it was forced upon her.
Kyrgyzstan has changed a lot in 2015 after a big scandal. The police stopped ignoring these crimes and imprisoning people. Both on TV and at school they began to tell people that this was a bad custom and to make films about it.
@@wisteriafleur3522 I think he is talking about that case when girl got killed in the process. I also recommend y'all to take VICE info with a grain of salt since they like to make scandalous things from each country and present it like it is very common thing when it's not. For 48,500 marriages in 2022 there were 500 kidnappings that year. That thing being illegal cannot be en masse.
Malacki655 2.0 literally!!! A certain belief or an action having a lot of followers or believers doesn’t make it moral or ethical. The what are you gonna do it’s their tradition comments are cancerous
But when society normalizes the act, be it cruel or not, then it does become a "tradition" and culture. Same way crazy cults are formed that torture humans.
“All girls must get married” “Calm down, you’ll be happy” Words cannot describe how thankful I am to not have to go through this. I feel so so bad for her.😭
Right? I have no idea what I'd do if I was in that situation. But at least that girl did want to marry that man, even if it wasn't right there and then. I feel worse for the others who are kidnapped by men they don't want and forcefully married and raped.
Kixi They have no choice but to agree. They are shunned by their entire community if the disgusting ritual is completed and they refuse to play happy families. It's either play along or be homeless/honour killed. This is beyond vile. Where are NATO when human rights abuses like this take place? The first women is a perfect example of what Stockholm syndrome looks like.
“But if the men don’t kidnap, they might never get married”. If the only way for a man to get married is for him to kidnap someone, then that’s a sign that he shouldn’t get married.
My mother was also a victim of this kidnapping, she still tells us how she was mistreated and how my biological father beat her when he was in a bad mood, but thank goodness now we live separately
:( I'm so sorry to hear that. ... Your mother might be a strong woman. Most of the victims can't do this. They just give up. Like the girl from the video.
@@artemkh8944 This tradition existed for example in Georgia too. It still does, but mostly in villages and not often anymore, fortunately. Very rarely. Georgians have developed.
@@mfhoss9570 no I'm talking about the old lady that lost her daughter. The same lady you were talking about. She didn't fight one bit and just relented right away like "k i guess you have my daughter now." So it's hard for me to feel bad for her.
That is WILDDDD. Can you imagine you're just going to get some milk and bread and someone just kidnaps you and takes you to their family and tries to marry you in your errand running clothes? I cannot believe this is a real tradition.
do you know it took them so long to convert to islam? like the 17th century. and krygz people barely practice islam cus of the soviet suppression of religion. @@phoenixj1299
prashant kalli from the UN International Human Rights Laws “Human rights are rights inherent to all human beings, regardless of race, sex, nationality, ethnicity, language, religion, or any other status. Human rights include the right to life and liberty, freedom from slavery and torture, freedom of opinion and expression, the right to work and education, and many more. Everyone is entitled to these rights, without discrimination.”
This so-called kidnapping is just a game. The bride and the groom already know each other and they make the plan. Different countries have different traditions. Indian brides are suppose to be shy and cry before leaving their houses for the groom's. If they don't, aunties talk behind them. I think it is similar in Kirgizstan. Brides are suppose to throw tantrum during kidnapping or aunties will gossip. That girl was also putting a show. But when the food is served, it means the show is over. Girls are just dramatic no matter where they are from.
@@abhijeetkundu2271i just hope that you be in the position of this brides someday. then you can talk about how fun this “game” is, and the girls are just dramatic creatures.
@@camacho_roman_costume Ah okay, so anyone who you are currently dating could just kidnap you and force you into marriage, yeah sure that seems totally reasonable to me.....oh wait, actually thats horrible and yeah sure she was so faking it, what about the girl that hung herself, is she also faking it, man thats some good act she has going on.....i dont like you defending that shit in any way, you should know better.
I reckon there’s a lot of intimidation and pressure that goes on. Her friend didn’t look that willing to participate and when they were trying to drag the girl out of the car, her friends tried to get hold of her to keep her in and one of the boys forced her hands off her. It’s easy for us to say she helped, but chances are she didn’t really have much of a choice
@@realy7392 being racist means not liking someone for the skin color hence the word race what does her not agreeing to the culture have to do with race
@@justanotherarmy8607 It's not just skin color, it's the race or country they come from in general (or the circumstance that happened when they were born). but i do agree, not agreeing with a culture has nothing to do with race at all.
The fact that nobody in this video really cared about her and just laughed at her for being kidnapped and taken away everyone laughed at her in the whole entire video which is very sad.
But at the same time this is to spread awareness, they wouldn't agree to record this if the dude and the camera guy had stopped them, so what could they do? They'll just kidnap her again while refusing to record this.
The worst thing is the fact that those old grandmas besides her are taking it as a some sort of joke even though they've felt the same feeling of being kidnapped without you knowing anything about it before.
I don't think they were married the same way since, as it was mentioned in the video, due to communism such traditional/religious practises were forbidden. Although, I think they actually knew that girl wanted to marry him in the end (since they were already a couple) and she was just pretending to not want to get kidnapped in order to not let others believe that she was desperate to get married by complying from the start (again I'm not entirely sure that is 100% sure about this but, in the end, I think the girl was smiling and accepting the whole thing...)
'Your a girl, all girls get married.' imagine being kidnapped by a bunch of men, all your family watching and laughing, being held down in a car, and being told that. Jesus.
I don't know what is worse, the men seeing nothing wrong with removing someone's bodily autonomy and integrity and not caring about consent, or how other older and supposedly wiser women are playing into this. It's heartbreaking. The sooner this "tradition" goes, the more people's lives will be saved.
Traditional issues require traditional solutions. Guys suppose to give huge amounts of money to SO's parents as "kalym" so it's cheaper to "steal" her with her own consent of course. Sometimes the reasons are different. I've seen such kidnapping once when visiting rural town. Girl was Kurdish and parents were against it so he came to her home at night with headlights off and she got into his car with her bags. They ran away to another town to register marriage and their parents were NOT happy about it :) even tho they dated since middle school. However sometimes they literally kidnap people despite it being illegal. In 2021 there were 500 kidnappings for 48500 ordinary marriages. VICE being VICE likes to reinforce racist stereotypes about non western countries tho.
I don’t care if it’s a tradition, this is absolutely disgusting. No girl deserves this, even if she wants to be married. the stress and trauma that these men have gave her is awful.
Yeah apparently their tradition is like a double edge sword that also can hurt them. For example remember that one dude that kidnaps some person sister and that dude get revenge by kidnapping the kidnapper sister as well and they gonna be like let call it a even.
If someone walked to me and said, "Look sir I kidnapped your daughter with the intent to marry her but I brought food to celebrate with you." I'd just punch him in the nose and call the cops.
@@Mr-Ad-196 I was speaking metaphorically. Also technically it's not legal there either. It's a culture thing not really a legal. Im just happy I don't live there.
The photographer who captured the iconic image of the emaciated child next to a vulture killed himself. I don't know how you can casually watch rape and systemic abuse from a distance without feeling similar levels of guilt and pain.
broadcast star Smh.....Imagine being married to someone for 12 years and then all the sudden they want a divorce. Alimony and half of everything you worked so hard for goes to them....and they didn’t contribute to any of your weath.....that’s scary.
scareface936 12 years in a marriage sounds like a good couple to me also it’s better then being forced against your will and shoved into a car by 5 grown men saying it’ll be okay.
@@THELASTREALKING93 ...i dont know. I've heard this arguement made a lot of times and it always confused me. And i always ask them this quiestion-"Do you believe men and women should be given equal opportunities in life,career wise, job wise,etc" Because if you dont think that women should be paid the same as men for the same job, then you dont get to make that arguement. A lot of women choose to quit their jobs and stay at home to raise their kids,in which case they are trusting their husbands to take care of them financially. Now if the man decided he wanted to divorce his wife, but the wife had not been to work in years cause she was busy taking care of him and his wife, she would not have the financial stability to live a normal life. I agree that there are a lot of gold diging women who are terribe people. But the same goes for men. There are men who are terrible people who would do unspeakable things to women(dont deny it, ) and also, there is also the problem of maternity leave. Do you have any idea what kind of toll pregnancy takes on womens bodies?? And now imagine having to go back to work before youre fully recovered. P.S, if she wants a divorce after putting up with him for 12 years, then theres prolly something else to it
@Number wa an A tradition that no woman wants to follow, as seen in some of these cases, if they don't believe in these traditions than why would she follow it? Is thet hard to understand? or are you stupid
The mother crying because of her daughter who committed suicide changed the whole vibe of the video for me. I tought that the kidnapping was mostly already mutually agreed on. So it’s very sad that there is still some cases of this happening
I cried when she was telling her story, it's so heartbreaking. In the other case at least they knew each other but the wedding still interrupted her life plans
@@sklewafe i figured the kidnapping element was like “im going to come randomly get you one day from your home and on that day we will get married” yk “Kidnapping” just agreed on
Sadly my mom was kidnapped too. My dad only saw her twice in his life and decided to kidnap her in a car with his friends. The saddest part is that if the woman rejects in our culture by calling her dad/brother to pick her up ,for example, the man´s family side spread it around so that the woman will never be able to marry someone because of the ´´shame´´. It happend in West Europe and my mother was illegally married at the age of 16/17
Mlle Chromosome I feel like the friend was pressured into it. If she refused she would be against tradition which result in people against her. You can tell on her face she did not want to do this
I never knew how Stockholm syndrome works but now I do. smh if I had a daughter, kidnapping and psycho-ING by other oppressed women is not seduction and romance.
Nigel, I wonder where the feminists are in these situations. I mean these video clearly shows that there are women who get kidnapped and are forced to get marry, which is REAL oppression btw , meanwhile in the West you will see feminists claiming that women are being "oppressed" because they can't show their nipples in public. Like WTF?
"The poor girl yelling for her mom just broke my heart!" Look more carefully. .... 10:40 and 12:50 . ....She is a pretty good actress though. (I'm sure that bride kidnapping is a real and serious issue in Kyrgyzstan; but a great many of them are actually staged by the agreement of the young men and women because the brides' families do not approve of their daughters' choices in fiances. In other words, many of these "kidnappings" are ritualized elopements, and there's no particular incentive on the part of the brides to admit this to anyone -- including foreign film crews. ....The only solution is for civil society groups in Kyrgyzstan to more aggressively promote the idea of grown women being able to OPENLY choose their own husbands and more generally to pursue romantic relationships without being slut-shamed.)
As a girl I'm crying with her so much that my fingers are shaking with a blurry vision. Some traditions should be buried with the ancient times please everyone have some human rights and it's against it
This is so backwards... The family keeps apologizing and saying they're guilty, but they don't seem one bit ashamed because it's part of their culture. Everyone's just like, "Oh well, can't change it". Yeah, well when all your women kill themselves off, you should consider that there's probably something wrong... I hope the girl at the end gets to finish her school as she wishes.
Or may be try to be nice to them after they new that there is a foreigner filming documentary about their culture or She except as custom. Even she said its not a right time to get married but what to do. Already happened.
@@___xyz___ the comment I was replying to, where he was laughing at women being literally kidnapped and forced to marry against their will, got deleted. But let me be clear, if hoping that this absolute degenerate, depraved, disgusting “tradition” and the culture that accepts it evolves out of existence makes me a colonizer, I’ll happily wear that label.
@Jooliuspoolius Yeah. Let's show these women the righteous, holy social structure of western democracy that unironically believes a man can turn into a woman lol
Nope. Everyone can have their own beliefs but no one can force their own beliefs on others in actions that affect them like this. Nations don’t matter. Otherwise, if the man’s tradition is kidnapping the bride, then the bride can say that her tradition is killing the man who kidnapped her.
@Yunus Hailey You can continue your tradition in a way that affects only yourself and those who wants to be affected. Just because you care about your national identity doesn't mean others in your country do, and they have a right not to subscribe to the identity and abandon the culture. I know I don't care about my country and its culture, and other people in other countries can also choose to feel the same way if they want. No one should be identified by their country anyways, unless they as an individual wants to.
@Yunus Hailey Your tradition is cruel and evil. Every tradition is just an idea that began in the past. Once we used to put black cats in a wooden box, and smash the box and the cat because of superstition. That nonsense was repeated for hundreds of years, and it even lives on today, but the wooden box is now painted and the content is candy. Still utterly stupid. Just because an idea is old, it doesn't make it good. On the contrary, it's stupid not to take old ideas up to revision. That is how a society and a people improve themselves. That is the very reason every country - including yours - has extinct traditions in the first place. Otherwise, we would still perform some stupid nonsense going back to the stone-age, simply because "Well it's tradition".
@@expensivegurl1112 Yes and no. The man said that she's his girlfriend and so they're planning to get married. So it's not like they were kidnapping a stranger. But at the same time, he and his girlfriend said she doesn't know she was going to be kidnapped before getting married (she said she thought she's gonna get married in a different way), so it wasn't staged. It's still a kidnapping.
Imagine this, all the these women were kidnapped, they got older with time... and these same older women joining the tradition and still continue doing it to young girls. They know the pain, but they still do it, even tho it happen to them too. And those young girls you saw kidnapped in the video, will eventually get old... and they will do it for their son too. Amazing!!!
I live in this country. older women think that it is necessary that this is a tradition. They do not even think it could be otherwise. The young generation of girls now does not want to be abducted. People who live in the capital are very modern especially the younger generation. in 2013 a law was passed on the illegality of the abduction. Nowadays, there are less and less abductions. But there are still people who think that this is a tradition. The girl and the boy are introduced to the parents before the wedding. If they like each other they marry. We will not be able to become such an open and tolerant country as the United States and European countries. But progress is the younger generation wants to change.
@@Comebackherein2050 I think a solution might the leaving of the younger generations to capital cities at a young age for example for school or work, so they can't abduct the girls. If they have finished school and got married with their consent, they can consider going back to their village. Btw I'm Turkish and our language sounds so much alike, but the culture is very different.
I am a girl and I live in Kyrgyzstan. To tell the truth this so called "tradition" makes me sad at the same time angry. Because bride kidnapping is not just phisical forcement but also psychological, moral. I am glad that it started to be taken seriously by government. There are laws and restrictions about bride kidnapping however it is still practiced in villages.
Zachem takie veshi pisat' voobshe ty ne delaesh luchwe, oni inostrancy vse po drugomu ponimaut... U nas mnogie protiv etogo. a oni dumaut chto vezde u nas takoe proishoidt hot' ty budesh govorit' tolko v selah. oni ishut predlog obsirat' drugih.. a ty bolshe eshe maslo v ogon".....
True... Im here complaining about not having a boyfriend, yet here I am seeing girls being forced to be with guys they do not even know. I am terrified.
Badr eddin lmao well go change the world lmao there’s a lot of lonely woman everywhere lol who ever makes it to the big time coming from small ass places like this?! Lol who or how many become doctors or lawyers?! Lmao keep it real that’s why she expected and she was dating the guy!!! What the fuck ever go save the world kid go save all the girls over there idiot they can’t help themselves
Cathleen FLUFFY BONBON ok, to be honest, in Kyrgyzstan there are such a few places, I mean now, that allow THAT. Because even here, kyrgyz people understand that it’s insane and ofc illegal. I don’t mean that it doesn’t happen, because you know assholes always will be around, but now the law is protecting women from that. They are REALLY protecting
Sometimes when it was wrong you should leave this. You know this was a sins. You know it is a bad thing. I know some tribes worship satan the way of their traditional. The way of their culture. But this was wrong and you should leave it alone.
This is absolutely heartbreaking. These woman are victims of kidnapping & sexual assault in front of many witnesses but yet nothing is done. My own grandmother was a victim of this crime & it was permitted by her own family. It just absolutely breaks my heart that these crimes are still happening to young women today.
Alisha ayo, issa my country n we have whole lotta good shit. Nowadays we don’t kidnap girls anymore to marry them. We have the best weed in USSR, prettiest nature, best food in da world ❌🧢, if u tryna visit my country imma show u better side of my home country
I don’t see how the mother can try to convince the girls to marry their son, when they were probably kidnapped. How could they let another woman go through that? Why would they want to experience that?
Maybe propably dont see anything else fun in life, than try to convince this young woman be his wife. Is it that Kyrgz people just chill in their Kyrgz lands with not needing to do much anything.
There are higher abuse rates in those families. If you have been coerced your whole married life and live in fear, there’s no telling what you would do.
Just imagine you are frightend every minute to be kidnapped when walking down the street, beeing on a meeting or party or fearing to be kidnapped out of your own home or beeing stuck somewhere and somebody tells you i kidnapp you for my son. Or imagine you have girl friend you want to marry, and other guy kidnappes here away (yes they do). Or mother doesent like your boy friend so she arrange kidnapping (by cruel, lazy alcoholic, yes also thos happens).
you have done a great job documenting this but it made me so deeply disturbed because of how raw and real this is. I am sorry I have a sensitive heart, so I could not finish the video. Thank you for bringing this in the light.
I did some research , this practice Does not existe anymore , iT only existed in some small villages in the first place . But now it doesn't , so pls just be happy , and calme you sensitive Heart ❤❤❤.
@@callmerespect9177 Tradition is dead. Kyrgyzstan is a wonderful country without dumb tradition. This Video is propaganda. The tradition was never like shown in the Video.
to be fair, he is a reporter. any sign that he's in disagreement, i'm sure the groomsmen will be quick to remove him from watching or recording. you have to build rapport with these people in order to capture the reality of the situation. it is obvious that the reporter felt truly uncomfortable with this tradition.
he was doing it to get footage, at the end he called the practice shitty. You have to understand he’s in a foreign country filming a cultural practice so if he disagreed there, they wouldn’t let him report on this issue. He couldn’t expose this practice for the rest of the world.
"Because it's tradition" alone is probably the most backwards and destructive mentality anyone can have. Yes, that was done in the past. But WHY was it done, given the context of the era in which its practice began, and does that context still apply to the present day? Following the old ways without properly understanding the reasons why they are as they are is pointless unless you're a child who isn't old enough to know better yet, and does nothing but pay lip service to "honor" a time that has long since passed. It does not help you or your country move forward, it does not prove that you're better than the people that bring drugs and violence wherever they go, and it does nothing to even truly honor those traditions.
Our societies change so quickly, that we mentally can't keep up. Traditions, that meant to keep community alive and thriving are now obsolete, but it's impossible to change one's way of thinking as quickly. It worked for your parents, they want a good stable life for you, so they do to you, what what done with them. How do you explain "Mom, Dad, this sacred tradition that build your life is now obsolete and unnecessary. Trust me." The only thing that helps is education, and unfortunately, many traditions don't place enough value on it.
icy dawn female mutilation has nothing to do with religion, it’s a culture/tradition. I’m a Muslim woman and I don’t know any woman that has been through that.
I still believe in the inherent value of tradition, because so many traditions genuinely have good reasons behind them...but you're right, it's always important to think critically and ask why,
No it's different. If she refuses then it shows she is not a slut so she will every time he proposes so what the film maker was saying is that for the sake of reputation she has to be kidnapped. It's sad and awful that there is so many layers keeping people from what they want in Turkic country's.
I guess the Feminist liberal western version were we have between 70 to 80 percent divorce rate MOSTLY filed by toxic Feminist women looking for the better deal... At least they have tradition
this is a pretty good old tradition and i would love to see that happening all around the world, it is a good representation of sharia and all must respect it, allah gave us this legacy and we must follow and propagate it, think about it if a woman is not contested upon then what is the value of her, at the end she's gonna end up like a useless thing in the home, that's why she must prepare herself for this contest and must not take this practice as kidnapping, rather it is more like "the one who comes first gets it all."
Although this is a terrible practice and I'm not trying to say this is okay, I think the young men have been heavily pressured by their family to kidnap a woman. The young men are probably scared of being rejected by their families, therefore they are doing this to remain connected to their families. I want to reiterate that I do not like this practice, it is wrong and I think it should be eliminated.
@Duck Sauce Right? This is why I hate western feminazis. They cry and whine about being oppressed when shit like this is happening and more to women all around the world. I get the west has its problems, no country is perfect but when you're worried about catcalling while some woman in another country is being forced to marry someone and being raped after, you really need to get your priorities straight.
Scooters Videos they were pointing out how privileged people are for complaining about nonexistent issues, such as manspreading and the wage gap in America. While those who are actually oppressed are being kidnapped and forced into marriage, stoned to death for defending yourself against rape, and much much more.
DaFaQ pRuShUnT They literally have no choice. Their lives will be hell, otherwise. They’re LITERALLY under mind control. Propaganda and brain washing. Like Stockholm Syndrome. Patriarchy and men suppressing women at its finest, as usual. (& I fucking HATE modern-day FemiNazi Liberalism). But it’s just the truth, here. & Stating that truth, isn’t feminism, or Liberal. Have to say that preemptively, before someone gets butthurt by this truth. LOL “It is what it is”. (One of my fav sayings).
wiptide It’s especially fucked up because some of these women love the men. They already agreed to/wanted to marry them. They simply didn’t want to be kidnapped! (Can you blame them)? & In this case here, the couple had talked about it, and he even promised her he would never do that to her when they were going to be getting married… But he did. They literally start their relationship off, by him being an untrustworthy, lying piece of shit who can’t keep his word from the get go. If they don’t think that plants a seed in these poor women’s heads, it does. (Doubt they care)...It is so fucked up. *Not only that, but it is disrespectful to the men themselves* ! Because if you have to kidnap a woman to get her to marry you, then you’re a sorry ass motherfucker LOL don’t you want somebody to marry you because they want to?! Not selling yourself short by forcing somebody?! So really these guys are disrespecting themselves, even more so. But are too stupid and engrained in their cultures and heads, too see it. 😔
Well if you live there.....I recommend you move out or don't fall in love with someone when you living in some part where bride kidnapping is a tradition before you marriage.
I heard this was a common tradition back in the cowboy days at Northern Mexico. My grandma was kidnapped once and had a baby from a runaway guy, she never saw him again, that baby is my aunt and she looks slightly different than my mom and the other siblings
WATCH NEXT: VICE World News spoke to a survivor of sexual assault to find out what more needs to be done to protect and support victims of sexual violence within the Islamic school setting. - ua-cam.com/video/ubdOFzXY4C0/v-deo.html
Sounds interesting! I'd also enjoy seeing a followup to this particular documentary, finding the couple married in this show, and seeing what their thoughts are now on bride kidnapping -- it's been over a decade since this documentary first aired.
Wtf!!!!! This’s straight up lies!!! I’m from Saudi Arabia there’s 0% of SA in our schools bcuz IT’S NOT MIXED we only have all girls or all boys school
This’s shocking how u ppl would shamelessly accuse islam of the things that happens routinely in ur non muslim countries in my muslim country it’s a CRIM to even cat call women even asking for a woman’s number is considered illegal us muslim women feel the safest in our countries unlike the women in western and non muslim countries the statistics of sexual assault are over the roof yet u have the audacity to make these videos against islam i mean we know it’s a propaganda but unfortunately many ignorants believe it
In Islam does not has such kind of kidnapping bro please do not belong your wrong opinion without adequate evidence!
actually inform yourself before assuming something idiotic. The horrid sexual assualt is forbiden and seen as a major sin to do with Islam because you are harming someone's well being. Disrespect to a religion because you cant tell the difference is real ignorant.
I mean how can the historian be more informed about the reality than you?
These are the moments you feel grateful for growing in the place you did
I’m eating your profile picture right now
I don’t know, dead goat polo seems fun.
Yeah but people still have the blatant idiocy to cry about all the "oppression" in the west. It's ridiculous.
P e r s e p h o n e . A n n I-
Why do you have to be grateful? It's obviously supposed to be equal. You don't be grateful when someone do just what they have to do.
I'm from Kyrgyzstan. I am Kyrgyz. This is a very wild tradition that is disappearing because girls and women no longer want to tolerate it in our country! And I'm glad of that. They also tried to steal me, but I fought with everyone and still left. I am confident that this cruel tradition will soon disappear.
I'm so happy you fought and resisted pls don't forget that it's not part of Islam itself only a toxic tradition
Much love from a Muslim South African💞
Thank god you made it. Hope you can live a happy life after this.
Greetings from Malaysia
U must reserve the tradition.. It is very sweet and unique
@@firelord1202 No, this tradition is disgusting.
👏👏😇😇
Poor girl just wanted to enjoy her youth while she could. You can't tell me that "momma" wasn't heartbreaking seriously
EA7 it wasn’t you think she had no more fight in her?? Lmao everyone gets married like this there I call it crocodile 🐊 😭
@@vegasfinest702 Righttttt....because "everyone gets married like this there" means that every single woman there should accept and be happy with the fact that they're being kidnapped..
I bet you would want to live there and be kidnapped too, don't you?
Momma was on it too. 😢 Evil
12:43 ?
3lizA B33F 30,000 each year from video I saw
The girl being kidnapped and then 3 men holding her, her yelling mom. My heart broke, I felt so helpless like how she was feeling at that moment. Almost cried.
what about cultural diversity?
Thats not a cultural diversity its a cruelty you can see easily
don't try to be educated@@Shadowfeather-sb4vc
@Shadowfeather-sb4vc ikr all these fake democrats say they feel bad for other cultures, but when it comes to eating dog and stuff like this, they instantly change their views to fit conservative american morales
@@Shadowfeather-sb4vc that is not culture, next thing you all say is we should respect child marriage. Get a grip weirdo
@Shadowfeather-sb4vc what the heck are you talking about?
it's even scarier when you realize that someone could actually be kidnapping a girl in plain sight with no intention of marrying her and people would just think that it's the tradition.
thats what I WAS THINKING like omg how do you differentiate between a wedding tradition and a possible gangrape???
I mean I would also consider this actually kidnapping a girl but true
Probably kidnapping with no intention of marrying is against the law
Yeah no, that's the thing! It might be difficult to tell whether someone is actually being kidnapped or not
Does without the marrying part make much of a difference? You mean without her consent right?
That poor mother sharing her daughters suicide story. How awful.
i actually ended up showing middle finger at phone screen when she cried...
she totally listened to society when she should've stood by her side specially when the child said that the man was not a good person.
but she chose to go with the society. i so much would've wanted to punch her face if she was doing that drama near me.
She got kidnapped, then they found her, AND THEN SHE GAVE HER BACK WILLINGLY. to be raped and held hostage. Then you know he just kidnapped another bride.. Disgusting. Maybe she should have thought twice as a mother doing that to her baby girl.... That poor fucking girl. I feel bad for HER, not the mother that fucking GAVE HER TO HIM.
@@Supermaninpyjama What do you expect to happen when, as was stated in the video, a society works so hard to make girls obedient from the moment they can probably communicate. Peer pressure, cultural pressure, are things that have effected all people at some point to some degree, unfortunatelythe ramifications can be severe and devastating.
How hypocritical and ignorant of you to imbue yourself with so much superiority when you'd stoop so low as to kick someone while they're down. She's going to feel guilty for the rest of her life, no keyboard-coward has the right to pretend to be more upset about something she actually *has* to survive.
The Little Blerdmaid I bet you she wasn’t crying when they took her, a mother should always be protecting her kids at all costs no matter what culture or religion bs you deal with. She let them take her away knowing she didn’t want to, she failed as a parent in my opinion.
You’re wrong. In my country they also used to kidnap brides but nowadays they do it less because they pay a fine for that now, which most of them can not afford, although some pay it willingly. Anyways, you’re wrong about what you said about her mother, she probably didn’t think it was necessary or good for her daughter when they gave her back to the kidnapper. She says in the video, the cousins etc put pressure on them, telling the « it’s tradition ! You’re wrong you shouldn’t take her back ! ». She didn’t develop it but as it was also in my country’s tradition to kidnap brides I can tell you for sure that she didn’t want to give her daughter back but couldn’t do otherwise because she’s a woman and she has to OBEY. So when the male cousins / older men in the family got angry about them bringing their daughter back, when they scolded the girl’s dad for doing so, when they brought up « it’s tradition! » the girl’s dad probably felt ashamed in front of the elder men (cousins, uncles..) and in those societies you HAVE TO respect older men and DO what they tell you to do, the dad probably decided to give the girl back to the kidnaper and the mom couldn’t do anything about it but accept it because SHE IS A WOMAN and she CAN NOT argue with her husband and other men in the family. If she talks back or disobeys she can be beaten or anyways, the men can just bring the girl back to the kidnaper’s house forcefully even if the mother is against. Anyways, I can guarantee you that this mom wasn’t happy about giving her daughter back autherwise they wouldn’t have even brought her home in first place. She just had to accept it because she’s a woman and she can not do anything because men decide and she has to obey. No one can understand her sorrow except those who went through the same thing. That thing happened to my aunt, she was kidnapped and run away but her uncle forced her to get married to her kidnapper whom she didn’t even knew.
"soooo how did you two meet"
"at knifepoint"
Playa Unknown "at gunpoint"
"At McDonald's"
Lol
LOL WTF my comment got 1.9k likes hahaha thats a first.
😝
i cried with the mom whose daughter committed suicide. i want to give her a hug, what a horrible loss
news from the Kyrgyz: now in our state there is no such tradition, all this happened in the past. please google "kyrgyzstan 2024"
The mother allowed it to happen though. She allowed the man to kidnap her
@@paulinadrygulska1947 sad
@@paulinadrygulska1947 yeah, I can only feel so bad, when she's culpable in her own daughter's death. what kind of a parent would let their kid go through something like that.
@@paulinadrygulska1947 No she didn't allowed the kidnapping. It is stated in the video that they event took their daughter on the next day, however their cousins pressured them saying that it is not right to take the bride and because of the pressure they give in and blessed the marriage. It is just sad that tradition is above their religion and law.
No one gonna talk about the bride's friend setting her up like that....
No
BBS Gaming I got you,
FUCK THAT BITCH
Completely agree - fuck that bitch
The betrayal
Unless somebody here is from that culture, nobody can really talk about it. You can't speak about things unless you are versed in them. Otherwise you don't know what the hell you are talking about. I can only speak about it from an American perspective, and an American perspective on a Kyrgyzstan tradition is irrelevant
Imagine youre a tourist and suddenly you become a strangers wife
Beast Sw 😆
🤣
This happens to dudes? I get this a lot but I'm pretty.
This actually happened to two female tourists a few years back, they got their national embassy involved and were able to return home after about a week.
No. They kiddnapp only women they know. Not strangers. Cmon a little bit of common sens. A tradition is something that belong to them and they societies. So they know each other and the plan everything.... well there is a foreigner in the town who look extact like the bride to be... Ouch! Bad for her
*"MAMA"* that one repeated word was truly heartbreaking
You might not know but in case of arranged marriage girls cried a lot too. Just like that....sometimes for months
Red October woah chill dude
@@sozibrahman8504 but its not ok to kidnap though
@@rouvin9213 bug off weird guy
xepseL thanks for getting that bug off me
no one's gonna talk about her "friend"? she knew her friend's dream to finish school and become a lawyer yet she lured her into that marriage. And please, the way the grooms men was touching the bride to keep her from moving.
fr.so traumatizing and jaw dropping
Just horrible
This was just horrible
They said they would allow the bride to continue their education…
@@KaiserTwo Yes they allow it 🙏🙏thank god!! A woman must be allowed...
I think the worst part is all her family and neighbours just laughing as she's dragged away screaming. Yikes.
They need to stop this stupid tradition
@@erdenebolor.e yes fuck those tradition
She was happy too
Yep
@@erdenebolor.e make them...
"You saw me once and wanted to kidnap me." Imagine saying that nonchalantly to your significant other.
I think he meant he wanted to rape her, but he decided to be polite for the cameras.
@@condeuiosandilixtos7858 No its about Kidnapping, raping he would get huge Problems wit other family, but kidnapping they tolerate becouse of virgin stupednes. Not that they dont rape every girl they can get without to much trouble afterwords. they have absolutly no feelings and empathy, completly cruel.
Just horrible.
The worst part for me is their laughing at the crying and struggling of the “bride”
The worst part is how the mother whose daughter commited suicide, gave her daughter BACK to the kidnappers. What a fckin idiot.
Grubby bum yeah I was thinking the same thing she acting like it was there fault she committed suicide but if they would have just ignored there “cousins” and took there daughter back she wouldn’t of hanged herself
@@grubbybum3614 Honestly, when you live within a culture, you think in the terms that culture gives you. She probably really hoped it'd turn out well, only getting a reality check when it was forced upon her.
Cause if they say yes their desperate and if they say no they’re innocent
I thought it was stupid too, but perhaps the pressure is some such it could affect their living?
Kyrgyzstan has changed a lot in 2015 after a big scandal. The police stopped ignoring these crimes and imprisoning people. Both on TV and at school they began to tell people that this was a bad custom and to make films about it.
Что за скандал?
which scandal?
If true then I'm incredibly happy to hear that. But what scandal led them to intolerate this tradition, if i may ask?
@@wisteriafleur3522 I think he is talking about that case when girl got killed in the process. I also recommend y'all to take VICE info with a grain of salt since they like to make scandalous things from each country and present it like it is very common thing when it's not. For 48,500 marriages in 2022 there were 500 kidnappings that year. That thing being illegal cannot be en masse.
@@wisteriafleur3522probably a kidnapping that went really violent or something
The villagers were reactions were like, "ah shit here we go again."
Anvoknof 1 year later it’s a meme AGAIN
Ah shit here we go again
Anvoknof are you a meme profit
Lmao
Make America great again!!!
Shit, here we go again.
Anvoknof ahead of his time
"Be careful not ro let her run anyway" and then they *laugh* ,
At this point, im so *disgust*
JenLisa is da thing me too i’ve heard about this but I didnt actually think they still do this
Dr Agam You’re saying that as if people WANT to get kidnapped.
@Dr Agam Your mom didn't wait 9 months for you to come out and say this shit
Dr Agam I’m pretty sure she doesn’t want to be kidnapped
@Dr Agam You're disgusting
my heart just broke into pieces, when the girl was screaming for her mom.
looked like her family was laughing and didn't really put up any resistance at all. It's disturbing.
@@starcrafter13terran they were like "thats how mafia works"
Zafar Muzawar same i literally cried
@@leniarmstrongxxx6222 yea
mine also. .
It's downright scary and sickening just how little empathy these guys have
And what about the woman?
@@kevinfernandez9999 what about the woman? you mean the one being forced to get married?
She keep screaming mom, and every time she got more desperate. I thought I was watching a horror movie because this is sick.
oh no Dude what the fuck is wrong with you?
Same
@oh no please say sike
@oh no *please say sike.*
oh no just stop please
I hate it whenever people use the words "culture" and "tradition" to try and justify cruel practices.
Malacki655 2.0 literally!!! A certain belief or an action having a lot of followers or believers doesn’t make it moral or ethical. The what are you gonna do it’s their tradition comments are cancerous
But when society normalizes the act, be it cruel or not, then it does become a "tradition" and culture. Same way crazy cults are formed that torture humans.
Same
Omag im literally shaking
Malacki655 2.0 as if they were getting away with it freely
“All girls must get married”
“Calm down, you’ll be happy”
Words cannot describe how thankful I am to not have to go through this.
I feel so so bad for her.😭
Come down you happy 😱
TheIntrovertedGiraffe me too😞🥺😭😭
Right? I have no idea what I'd do if I was in that situation. But at least that girl did want to marry that man, even if it wasn't right there and then. I feel worse for the others who are kidnapped by men they don't want and forcefully married and raped.
Kixi They have no choice but to agree. They are shunned by their entire community if the disgusting ritual is completed and they refuse to play happy families.
It's either play along or be homeless/honour killed.
This is beyond vile. Where are NATO when human rights abuses like this take place? The first women is a perfect example of what Stockholm syndrome looks like.
Kixi I kill the groom idc self defense
Her friend pretending to fight back as if she wasn’t agreeing and literally helped her get kidnapped
MY THOUGHTS EXACTLY.
“But if the men don’t kidnap, they might never get married”. If the only way for a man to get married is for him to kidnap someone, then that’s a sign that he shouldn’t get married.
Underrated comment
You are stupid.
They are doing what Nature do.
Like eating meat is natural sex is.
@@Sahilbc-wj8qk what wait i dont understand. Can u elaborate
I wanna go there and try this on a girl
@@lloritoshaneerinmitchells.8657 they’re using the logical fallacy that “the natural way is the right way”
This is so disturbing, I really felt for her calling out for her mum, that hurt my heart. 😢
Same
its sick how even the women contribute to the kidnapping
It’s tradition is not even a tradition it’s devilish
It makes you wonder who started these so called f'@*ed up traditions!
@@lavenderharmony944 probably some devils
My mother was also a victim of this kidnapping, she still tells us how she was mistreated and how my biological father beat her when he was in a bad mood, but thank goodness now we live separately
:( I'm so sorry to hear that. ... Your mother might be a strong woman. Most of the victims can't do this. They just give up. Like the girl from the video.
Was it in the same country or this tradition exists somewhere else?
@@artemkh8944 This tradition existed for example in Georgia too. It still does, but mostly in villages and not often anymore, fortunately. Very rarely. Georgians have developed.
Where you from
@@Melko_277 Kyrgyzstan
CRIME IN THE DISGUISE OF TRADITION IS STILL A CRIME. I REPEAT, CRIME IN DISGUISE OF TRADITION IS STILL A CRIME. 🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️
🗣️🗣️🗣️💯💯🥰🔥💯💯🙏🙏
news from the Kyrgyz: now in our state there is no such tradition, all this happened in the past. please google "kyrgyzstan 2024"
Absolutely
it's "traditional crime" then....
by whom? who has decided upon these crimes?
nobody’s talkin bout the old lady she lost her daughter to a terrible tradition and she deserves to be talked about more
fr i balled my eyes out that was so sad
Marina Pauli yeah ikr
She didn't even put up an ounce of fight it's hard for me to feel too bad for the old lady.
Kayla Wingett what time stamp are you talking about bc all of the women that got kidnapped in the video definitely put up a fight
@@mfhoss9570 no I'm talking about the old lady that lost her daughter. The same lady you were talking about. She didn't fight one bit and just relented right away like "k i guess you have my daughter now." So it's hard for me to feel bad for her.
the way she was calling for her mom is so heartbreaking oh my god
you sound like a feminist
@@Predestinated1 wtf, how is that
@@Predestinated1 you sound like a dumbass
Pre destinated look at your empty profile. Hahahaha!!!! What a weakling 😂
@@Predestinated1 you sound heartless
The lady that the daughter suicide because she was kidnapped broke my heart.
sadpeepol :v Right? How sick.
simp
Pre destinated no stop it’s disgusting
@@imok3487 because.
Internet.
+Pre destinated
Here we have another 13 year old who uses the word “simp” without knowing the meaning of it.
That is WILDDDD. Can you imagine you're just going to get some milk and bread and someone just kidnaps you and takes you to their family and tries to marry you in your errand running clothes? I cannot believe this is a real tradition.
This is how ancient horsemen married in turkic-Mongol culture. It's awful yes. No wonder why they followed Islam.
do you know it took them so long to convert to islam? like the 17th century. and krygz people barely practice islam cus of the soviet suppression of religion. @@phoenixj1299
@@phoenixj1299 Tell me you only know Islam from the news without telling me you only know Islam from the news:
@@THEdeflatedballoon The fact that you are a Muslim is a proof that you don't know Islam.
@@THEdeflatedballoon how old was aisha?
the whole tradition is the definition of "I'm too scared to get rejected" .
@Ben Shapiro Oh my god you her good. She's so triggered right now oma gawddd. Mr. Shabibo
@Ben Shapiro women are being kidnapped there you dumbass this isn’t just about feminism this is about basic human rights
@Ben Shapiro then why did that one girl commit suicide because of it? Honestly I didn’t know someone could be this dumb
@Ben Shapiro tradition or not it’s wrong
@@ShammaAlshamsi-wo3kf Tradition is number one, law can’t bypass it.
“Cultural Acceptance doesn’t mean accepting the unacceptable”- Jasvinder Sanghera
Found the Islamophobe.
if someone would come to kidnap my sis ,daughter i would have stabbed him even if i was a part of the culture
But who decides what is unacceptable?
prashant kalli from the UN International Human Rights Laws
“Human rights are rights inherent to all human beings, regardless of race, sex, nationality, ethnicity, language, religion, or any other status. Human rights include the right to life and liberty, freedom from slavery and torture, freedom of opinion and expression, the right to work and education, and many more. Everyone is entitled to these rights, without discrimination.”
@@mjverostek1278 What aspect of Islam includes kidnapping women?
Her wanting to be lawyer and just passively accepting whats happening to her is just incredibly heartbreaking
Why can't she be a lawyer as well? She has plenty of time left and he seems like a nice guy.
@@michaelmoores2654 Plenty of time my ass. I bet you never experienced taking care of a child.
@@michaelmoores2654 I know right?
She can still be a lawyer in her dreams bro its not all bad
@@michaelmoores2654 i dont know about the nice guy part ...
“If she says yes everybody will think she is desperate to get married!” 💀
That crazy 😂😂
based
my jaw dropped my saw that
This so-called kidnapping is just a game. The bride and the groom already know each other and they make the plan. Different countries have different traditions. Indian brides are suppose to be shy and cry before leaving their houses for the groom's. If they don't, aunties talk behind them. I think it is similar in Kirgizstan. Brides are suppose to throw tantrum during kidnapping or aunties will gossip. That girl was also putting a show. But when the food is served, it means the show is over. Girls are just dramatic no matter where they are from.
@@abhijeetkundu2271i just hope that you be in the position of this brides someday. then you can talk about how fun this “game” is, and the girls are just dramatic creatures.
How sweet, giving your wife PTSD and a lifelong fear of men right before the wedding
Frr
ayee 666th like
*cums*
That kind of relationship is Very Haram ... what is he going to say to GoD in the day of judgment ??? This Haram tradition must be stopped .
@@oussamabekk1108 Quran 4:19 "O believers! It is not permissible for you to inherit women against their will"
There is no suck thing as PTSD in south 😂, it is what it is. It tranformation of tradition
The fact that her friend helped is terrifying, they can't trust anybody
But they’ve already been dating. The kidnapping thing is just tradition (staged) You can tell she was faking it
@@camacho_roman_costume Ah okay, so anyone who you are currently dating could just kidnap you and force you into marriage, yeah sure that seems totally reasonable to me.....oh wait, actually thats horrible and yeah sure she was so faking it, what about the girl that hung herself, is she also faking it, man thats some good act she has going on.....i dont like you defending that shit in any way, you should know better.
I reckon there’s a lot of intimidation and pressure that goes on. Her friend didn’t look that willing to participate and when they were trying to drag the girl out of the car, her friends tried to get hold of her to keep her in and one of the boys forced her hands off her. It’s easy for us to say she helped, but chances are she didn’t really have much of a choice
did you watch the whole thing? it´s staged rewatch it you dummy and focus abit more.
Chill, the point is this is a tradition and whether this was planned or not we still cant rule out that a situation like that never occurred
Wow it got me in tears when she started calling for her mom. This is cruel.
Your pfp is literally my reaction when seeing this.
Don’t be racist! It’s just a different culture
@@realy7392 being racist means not liking someone for the skin color hence the word race what does her not agreeing to the culture have to do with race
@@justanotherarmy8607 It's not just skin color, it's the race or country they come from in general (or the circumstance that happened when they were born). but i do agree, not agreeing with a culture has nothing to do with race at all.
But after a while she felt ok though
The fact that nobody in this video really cared about her and just laughed at her for being kidnapped and taken away everyone laughed at her in the whole entire video which is very sad.
And they just smile at her like as if she was a joke and she became a laughingstock to the yurt and village and to the people there also.
Imagine getting recorded for the whole world to see during the most humiliating and demeaning moment of your whole life
But at the same time this is to spread awareness, they wouldn't agree to record this if the dude and the camera guy had stopped them, so what could they do? They'll just kidnap her again while refusing to record this.
you are an idiot! that was the happiest day of her life
The atrocity of this is not the recording of it.
I don't need to imagine. Just wait til I finally post that shit.
@Charlie Sthill they just said it's an ancient practise so why it has to do with religion all of sudden
The worst thing is the fact that those old grandmas besides her are taking it as a some sort of joke even though they've felt the same feeling of being kidnapped without you knowing anything about it before.
Brainwashing.
I don't think they were married the same way since, as it was mentioned in the video, due to communism such traditional/religious practises were forbidden. Although, I think they actually knew that girl wanted to marry him in the end (since they were already a couple) and she was just pretending to not want to get kidnapped in order to not let others believe that she was desperate to get married by complying from the start (again I'm not entirely sure that is 100% sure about this but, in the end, I think the girl was smiling and accepting the whole thing...)
@@anti-logic4537 your username makes a lot of sense. This is disgraceful.
@@anti-logic4537 that's called grooming and Stockholm syndrome
Stockholm syndrome?
'Your a girl, all girls get married.' imagine being kidnapped by a bunch of men, all your family watching and laughing, being held down in a car, and being told that. Jesus.
Random User I hated that to, like wtf
Good thing i am man...jesus i cant believe this tradition exist
Honestly I’d rather die at that point
@@aher1560 They're drinking and pushing people to drink. They don't know about Islam as it seems, or they don't care
@@aher1560 your religion was created by wife beating, pedophile, coward. Anyone who supports Islam and doesn't support this is a hypocrite
I don't know what is worse, the men seeing nothing wrong with removing someone's bodily autonomy and integrity and not caring about consent, or how other older and supposedly wiser women are playing into this. It's heartbreaking. The sooner this "tradition" goes, the more people's lives will be saved.
Traditional issues require traditional solutions. Guys suppose to give huge amounts of money to SO's parents as "kalym" so it's cheaper to "steal" her with her own consent of course. Sometimes the reasons are different.
I've seen such kidnapping once when visiting rural town. Girl was Kurdish and parents were against it so he came to her home at night with headlights off and she got into his car with her bags. They ran away to another town to register marriage and their parents were NOT happy about it :) even tho they dated since middle school.
However sometimes they literally kidnap people despite it being illegal. In 2021 there were 500 kidnappings for 48500 ordinary marriages. VICE being VICE likes to reinforce racist stereotypes about non western countries tho.
Her screaming for her mom as everyone looking on just laughs. This made me ill and nauseous!! My heart hurts for these young girls.
Yeah seriously it's weird that people who can string a sentence together at all/most other times can only cackle at her...
shes literally crying and everyone is like oh look she being kidnapped hahaha no its not funny
You are being fooled, she's enjoying it and she is crying tears of joy
@@thebasado4524
How are your relationships with women?
@@patriciaoffer9585 I have 5 wives but I don't talk to them they're for cleaning and for my dirty pleasures
I don’t care if it’s a tradition, this is absolutely disgusting. No girl deserves this, even if she wants to be married. the stress and trauma that these men have gave her is awful.
@@velvet_moon. Facts. Cruel men too
@@zneytram1432 no shu1 up.
@Jebus Bhrist 😕
@Jebus Bhrist men and woman, they are both equal 😟
@@zneytram1432 What girls could you possibly be talking about? Why do you feel the need to justify this disgusting behaviour?
So all these guys will let their sisters be kidnapped like this.
*GREAT*
Yeah apparently their tradition is like a double edge sword that also can hurt them. For example remember that one dude that kidnaps some person sister and that dude get revenge by kidnapping the kidnapper sister as well and they gonna be like let call it a even.
If someone walked to me and said,
"Look sir I kidnapped your daughter with the intent to marry her but I brought food to celebrate with you."
I'd just punch him in the nose and call the cops.
@@timesweeper9778 but Kyrgyzstan its kinda like legal over there........unless you move out there....
@@timesweeper9778 I'd do way more than punch someone if my daughter was taken with the intent of marriage and rape.
@@Mr-Ad-196 I was speaking metaphorically. Also technically it's not legal there either. It's a culture thing not really a legal.
Im just happy I don't live there.
The photographer who captured the iconic image of the emaciated child next to a vulture killed himself. I don't know how you can casually watch rape and systemic abuse from a distance without feeling similar levels of guilt and pain.
The bride looks sick and exhausted, like she's about to cry in every scene
scareface936 Ew stop being immature please
broadcast star Smh.....Imagine being married to someone for 12 years and then all the sudden they want a divorce. Alimony and half of everything you worked so hard for goes to them....and they didn’t contribute to any of your weath.....that’s scary.
scareface936 12 years in a marriage sounds like a good couple to me also it’s better then being forced against your will and shoved into a car by 5 grown men saying it’ll be okay.
@@THELASTREALKING93 ...i dont know. I've heard this arguement made a lot of times and it always confused me. And i always ask them this quiestion-"Do you believe men and women should be given equal opportunities in life,career wise, job wise,etc"
Because if you dont think that women should be paid the same as men for the same job, then you dont get to make that arguement. A lot of women choose to quit their jobs and stay at home to raise their kids,in which case they are trusting their husbands to take care of them financially.
Now if the man decided he wanted to divorce his wife, but the wife had not been to work in years cause she was busy taking care of him and his wife, she would not have the financial stability to live a normal life.
I agree that there are a lot of gold diging women who are terribe people. But the same goes for men. There are men who are terrible people who would do unspeakable things to women(dont deny it, )
and also, there is also the problem of maternity leave. Do you have any idea what kind of toll pregnancy takes on womens bodies?? And now imagine having to go back to work before youre fully recovered.
P.S, if she wants a divorce after putting up with him for 12 years, then theres prolly something else to it
I love how awkward the interviewer is. Mans is just vibing while he’s witnessing a crime I mean tradition I mean crime.
epic
Nah i think you mean tradition
@@ahmeddyasalkhwarizmi8783 crime sis
Where u are maybe it’s a crime but to them it’s tradition.
@Number wa an A tradition that no woman wants to follow, as seen in some of these cases, if they don't believe in these traditions than why would she follow it? Is thet hard to understand? or are you stupid
The mother crying because of her daughter who committed suicide changed the whole vibe of the video for me. I tought that the kidnapping was mostly already mutually agreed on. So it’s very sad that there is still some cases of this happening
when it's mutually agreed upon, that's called marriage, not kidnapping
3:00 I didn't know that there exists a job like 'BRIDE KIDNAPPING EXPERT' wtf 💀
Can't even begin to describe how i felt about that, so unbelievably sad. :/
I cried when she was telling her story, it's so heartbreaking. In the other case at least they knew each other but the wedding still interrupted her life plans
@@sklewafe i figured the kidnapping element was like “im going to come randomly get you one day from your home and on that day we will get married” yk “Kidnapping” just agreed on
Sadly my mom was kidnapped too. My dad only saw her twice in his life and decided to kidnap her in a car with his friends. The saddest part is that if the woman rejects in our culture by calling her dad/brother to pick her up ,for example, the man´s family side spread it around so that the woman will never be able to marry someone because of the ´´shame´´. It happend in West Europe and my mother was illegally married at the age of 16/17
you know what? my life aint that bad after all.
@Cj Amen
@Cj a men has kidnapped my daughter
lol
@NatalieListensToMusic K no
@NatalieListensToMusic K amen has fallen into river in lego city
I don't understand that girl helping those boys to kidnap the other girl... She was supposed to be her friend ?!
Yes, she is . But in Kazakhstan and Kyrgyzstan girls think that's better than be forced to have sex with random man
Саяжан Узакбаева Oh, ok, but I still feel sad for those girls, because as they say in this video there is some girls that ends their lives :/
Mlle Chromosome That friend there is what we'd call a "backstabber" here in the western world. That's not a friend.
Mellow Noor that was what I was thinking, but I didn't found a word to describe her without being disrespectful
Mlle Chromosome I feel like the friend was pressured into it. If she refused she would be against tradition which result in people against her. You can tell on her face she did not want to do this
The amount of pain in the girls voice as she calls for her mom is heartbreaking
you are a feminist
@@Predestinated1 yeah so?
@@ievamili8361 feminists are gay.
@@crimsonnite9291 so are you
Yara71 so was that comeback
Imagine saying to your daughter who’s a child “you’ll get kidnapped like me*
This is difficult to watch..
ikr
Just be thankful you don't live there
I never knew how Stockholm syndrome works but now I do. smh if I had a daughter, kidnapping and psycho-ING by other oppressed women is not seduction and romance.
Nigel, I wonder where the feminists are in these situations. I mean these video clearly shows that there are women who get kidnapped and are forced to get marry, which is REAL oppression btw , meanwhile in the West you will see feminists claiming that women are being "oppressed" because they can't show their nipples in public. Like WTF?
Honestly, it is very difficult to watch
"then we gave her back" no wonder why she hung herself, she felt betrayed by her family.. This is heartbreaking on so many levels.
Facts that death is on the parents dam a tradition what about your kid?
Nah...
ليش كدا؟ ?why is it like that
@@catfishsensei4306 why not?
The poor girl yelling for her mom just broke my heart! 💔
"The poor girl yelling for her mom just broke my heart!"
Look more carefully. .... 10:40 and 12:50 .
....She is a pretty good actress though.
(I'm sure that bride kidnapping is a real and serious issue in Kyrgyzstan; but a great many of them are actually staged by the agreement of the young men and women because the brides' families do not approve of their daughters' choices in fiances. In other words, many of these "kidnappings" are ritualized elopements, and there's no particular incentive on the part of the brides to admit this to anyone -- including foreign film crews. ....The only solution is for civil society groups in Kyrgyzstan to more aggressively promote the idea of grown women being able to OPENLY choose their own husbands and more generally to pursue romantic relationships without being slut-shamed.)
her mom is not going to take her away, because its considered shameful and no one else will ever marry her
I know its wrong but it turned me on a little bit. Now before you say anything I am also underage
@@hax2009 ..........😑
@@drmhr8890 If you are not happy about it imagine how I feel and what I have to deal with
As a girl I'm crying with her so much that my fingers are shaking with a blurry vision. Some traditions should be buried with the ancient times please everyone have some human rights and it's against it
This is so backwards... The family keeps apologizing and saying they're guilty, but they don't seem one bit ashamed because it's part of their culture. Everyone's just like, "Oh well, can't change it". Yeah, well when all your women kill themselves off, you should consider that there's probably something wrong...
I hope the girl at the end gets to finish her school as she wishes.
Normal guys: omg I'm so nervous what if she says no?😣
Kyrgyzstan: omg I'm so nervous what if she *escapes* ?😞
Lol
Lol 😂
lol
Lol
@@Suicide_is_cute what's with the name?
Her crying for her mom while they’re all smiling and laughing….horrifying.
Or may be try to be nice to them after they new that there is a foreigner filming documentary about their culture or She except as custom.
Even she said its not a right time to get married but what to do. Already happened.
@@lamibrahim9202 that is so heartbreaking to hear… I really hope your culture evolves past this barbaric behavior at some point.
You really hope their culture evolves... I feel like I've read this phrase somewhere before. May be an adage from the colonial slave trade.
@@___xyz___ the comment I was replying to, where he was laughing at women being literally kidnapped and forced to marry against their will, got deleted. But let me be clear, if hoping that this absolute degenerate, depraved, disgusting “tradition” and the culture that accepts it evolves out of existence makes me a colonizer, I’ll happily wear that label.
@Jooliuspoolius Yeah. Let's show these women the righteous, holy social structure of western democracy that unironically believes a man can turn into a woman lol
i don't know if I am over dramatic but I feel like crying seeing the girls scream
congrats you have emotions
@@YorKneeLMAO
Its not that she had ‘accepted’ her fate when she gave in and ate whatever the mothers had offered. She was exhausted
Nope. Everyone can have their own beliefs but no one can force their own beliefs on others in actions that affect them like this. Nations don’t matter. Otherwise, if the man’s tradition is kidnapping the bride, then the bride can say that her tradition is killing the man who kidnapped her.
@Yunus Hailey You can continue your tradition in a way that affects only yourself and those who wants to be affected. Just because you care about your national identity doesn't mean others in your country do, and they have a right not to subscribe to the identity and abandon the culture. I know I don't care about my country and its culture, and other people in other countries can also choose to feel the same way if they want. No one should be identified by their country anyways, unless they as an individual wants to.
@Yunus Hailey Your tradition is cruel and evil. Every tradition is just an idea that began in the past. Once we used to put black cats in a wooden box, and smash the box and the cat because of superstition. That nonsense was repeated for hundreds of years, and it even lives on today, but the wooden box is now painted and the content is candy. Still utterly stupid. Just because an idea is old, it doesn't make it good. On the contrary, it's stupid not to take old ideas up to revision. That is how a society and a people improve themselves. That is the very reason every country - including yours - has extinct traditions in the first place. Otherwise, we would still perform some stupid nonsense going back to the stone-age, simply because "Well it's tradition".
@Yunus Hailey shut tf up it’s disgusting
@Yunus Hailey I don't think that's how you got your whole population from Asian looking people into European
Bro this actually made me cry she was pleading for her mom this is literal torture
It was staged. They were dating. But still absurd and goes against the law
@@kant.68 it was staged?
its ok she was happy in the end
@@expensivegurl1112 Yes and no. The man said that she's his girlfriend and so they're planning to get married. So it's not like they were kidnapping a stranger. But at the same time, he and his girlfriend said she doesn't know she was going to be kidnapped before getting married (she said she thought she's gonna get married in a different way), so it wasn't staged. It's still a kidnapping.
Imagine this, all the these women were kidnapped, they got older with time... and these same older women joining the tradition and still continue doing it to young girls. They know the pain, but they still do it, even tho it happen to them too. And those young girls you saw kidnapped in the video, will eventually get old... and they will do it for their son too. Amazing!!!
I live in this country. older women think that it is necessary that this is a tradition. They do not even think it could be otherwise. The young generation of girls now does not want to be abducted. People who live in the capital are very modern especially the younger generation. in 2013 a law was passed on the illegality of the abduction. Nowadays, there are less and less abductions. But there are still people who think that this is a tradition. The girl and the boy are introduced to the parents before the wedding. If they like each other they marry. We will not be able to become such an open and tolerant country as the United States and European countries. But progress is the younger generation wants to change.
@@Comebackherein2050 I think a solution might the leaving of the younger generations to capital cities at a young age for example for school or work, so they can't abduct the girls. If they have finished school and got married with their consent, they can consider going back to their village.
Btw I'm Turkish and our language sounds so much alike, but the culture is very different.
Because sisterhood is a myth.
@yami bakura you sound feminism
CUZ after they r old all they think of is their boys so they allow it
i started crying when she screamed for her mom
Welcome to Kyrgyzstan where the countries motto is "No means Yes"
Quagmire must be their greatest deity.
lol.
lol
😳
"No means Yes. Yes means Anal!" - Yale Students
I swear, just google it
I am a girl and I live in Kyrgyzstan. To tell the truth this so called "tradition" makes me sad at the same time angry. Because bride kidnapping is not just phisical forcement but also psychological, moral.
I am glad that it started to be taken seriously by government. There are laws and restrictions about bride kidnapping however it is still practiced in villages.
It's still happening in 2020?
@@siim605 only in villages hopefully but the capital city Bishkek is full of dumb hicks nowadays so it's hard to be sure
@@siim605 It is not practiced even way before 2020!!!
@@zakur0hako Are you stupid or what, there was never bride kidnappings in cities and bigger towns. Only rarely in small villages.
Zachem takie veshi pisat' voobshe ty ne delaesh luchwe, oni inostrancy vse po drugomu ponimaut... U nas mnogie protiv etogo. a oni dumaut chto vezde u nas takoe proishoidt hot' ty budesh govorit' tolko v selah. oni ishut predlog obsirat' drugih.. a ty bolshe eshe maslo v ogon".....
We sometimes forget how lucky we are.
yahh mann
True
True... Im here complaining about not having a boyfriend, yet here I am seeing girls being forced to be with guys they do not even know. I am terrified.
women especially
I hate when people say that... it’s so narcissistic.
To hell with such traditions. This is torture!
@@vegasfinest702 Well, there are MANY other women who would NOT like to be kidnapped as a bride against their will.
Badr eddin lmao well go change the world lmao there’s a lot of lonely woman everywhere lol who ever makes it to the big time coming from small ass places like this?! Lol who or how many become doctors or lawyers?! Lmao keep it real that’s why she expected and she was dating the guy!!! What the fuck ever go save the world kid go save all the girls over there idiot they can’t help themselves
It is not everywhere. This is not a tradition !
IvyMe no way you’re a woman
DeCiPhErIng GAmiNg every country has its own problems, believe me when I say that you're embarrassing yourself by downgrading others.
I can't believe this still happens in our world today.....truly heartbreaking.
Cathleen FLUFFY BONBON ok, to be honest, in Kyrgyzstan there are such a few places, I mean now, that allow THAT. Because even here, kyrgyz people understand that it’s insane and ofc illegal. I don’t mean that it doesn’t happen, because you know assholes always will be around, but now the law is protecting women from that. They are REALLY protecting
Kyrgyzstan isn’t the only place that does, it happens all over the globe especially in less developed countries
Well as u see this video from 2012. We got low against this in 2013.
No need to worry. This video was made it in 2013. We got law against kidnapping brides in 2013.
Sometimes when it was wrong you should leave this. You know this was a sins. You know it is a bad thing. I know some tribes worship satan the way of their traditional. The way of their culture. But this was wrong and you should leave it alone.
This is absolutely heartbreaking. These woman are victims of kidnapping & sexual assault in front of many witnesses but yet nothing is done. My own grandmother was a victim of this crime & it was permitted by her own family. It just absolutely breaks my heart that these crimes are still happening to young women today.
Where was your grandmother from?
Where was the sexual assault in this video? Marital rape is illegal Krygyzstan.
@@andrewd4413 kidnap me instead of those girls. I like the dudes in the blue and red shirts respectively 😂
@Adam Ferencszi I'm not from Kyrgyzstan, and I 100% oppose kidnapping women.
@@andrewd4413 how about kidnapping men ?
“You’re crying so you’ll be happy” what kind of logic is that
I KNOW RIGHT!! its dumb😭🙏
It's sad that this is the only reason I know the country's name.
Wa?
Exactly shame on them for only being known around the world for this
Alisha ayo, issa my country n we have whole lotta good shit. Nowadays we don’t kidnap girls anymore to marry them. We have the best weed in USSR, prettiest nature, best food in da world ❌🧢, if u tryna visit my country imma show u better side of my home country
Alisha But put in your mind that not the whole country do that, it’s only about one or two villages in Kyrgyzstan that do that stupid stuff, okay!😊
I don’t see how the mother can try to convince the girls to marry their son, when they were probably kidnapped. How could they let another woman go through that? Why would they want to experience that?
Because the women ( especially elderly) are brainwashed themselves
Well, in CIS countries wife abuse or this type of thing is usual thing. Most of our elder generation are brainwashed af and live by this “traditions”.
Maybe propably dont see anything else fun in life, than try to convince this young woman be his wife. Is it that Kyrgz people just chill in their Kyrgz lands with not needing to do much anything.
There are higher abuse rates in those families. If you have been coerced your whole married life and live in fear, there’s no telling what you would do.
You might not like it, but when the only two options you're given is: "We can do this the easy way or We can do this the hard way"
Just imagine walking down the street and getting kidnapped
Just thinking about someone planning your kidnapping is sickening.
Yeah, her "friend" helped set her up.
No thanks
Tase them
Just imagine you are frightend every minute to be kidnapped when walking down the street, beeing on a meeting or party or fearing to be kidnapped out of your own home or beeing stuck somewhere and somebody tells you i kidnapp you for my son.
Or imagine you have girl friend you want to marry, and other guy kidnappes here away (yes they do). Or mother doesent like your boy friend so she arrange kidnapping (by cruel, lazy alcoholic, yes also thos happens).
you have done a great job documenting this but it made me so deeply disturbed because of how raw and real this is. I am sorry I have a sensitive heart, so I could not finish the video. Thank you for bringing this in the light.
I did some research , this practice Does not existe anymore , iT only existed in some small villages in the first place . But now it doesn't , so pls just be happy , and calme you sensitive Heart ❤❤❤.
Thank you for this, I have a sensitive heart too and my whole week was about to be ruined because of this video 😭
"Girls will be happy if they get married crying"
What utter disgust
Seems they can't tell the difference between tears of sorrow & joy.
Right, wrong kinda cryin bruh 🤦🏼♀️
i know rigtht that jiust disgust me
Naziur Honestly, like wtf.
Exactly
"I'm dating someone" "no you're not! No one dates"
This is messed up
That one got me too. She was a beautiful girl I felt so sorry for her.
The fact that I cannot help them makes me sad
Glad the tradition is dead.
@@daev13k oh yes ? that such a suck tradition
@@callmerespect9177 Tradition is dead. Kyrgyzstan is a wonderful country without dumb tradition. This Video is propaganda. The tradition was never like shown in the Video.
I sobbed watching the girl in the green dress call out for her mom
Me too I was imagining her being my daughter and me not being able to do anything for her
The reporter saying „good luck guys“ to the kidnappers is disgusting 🤮
MY THOUGHTS EXACTLY
game is game
Kinda awkward, I'd say
to be fair, he is a reporter. any sign that he's in disagreement, i'm sure the groomsmen will be quick to remove him from watching or recording. you have to build rapport with these people in order to capture the reality of the situation. it is obvious that the reporter felt truly uncomfortable with this tradition.
he was doing it to get footage, at the end he called the practice shitty. You have to understand he’s in a foreign country filming a cultural practice so if he disagreed there, they wouldn’t let him report on this issue. He couldn’t expose this practice for the rest of the world.
"Because it's tradition" alone is probably the most backwards and destructive mentality anyone can have.
Yes, that was done in the past. But WHY was it done, given the context of the era in which its practice began, and does that context still apply to the present day?
Following the old ways without properly understanding the reasons why they are as they are is pointless unless you're a child who isn't old enough to know better yet, and does nothing but pay lip service to "honor" a time that has long since passed. It does not help you or your country move forward, it does not prove that you're better than the people that bring drugs and violence wherever they go, and it does nothing to even truly honor those traditions.
PREACH
Our societies change so quickly, that we mentally can't keep up. Traditions, that meant to keep community alive and thriving are now obsolete, but it's impossible to change one's way of thinking as quickly. It worked for your parents, they want a good stable life for you, so they do to you, what what done with them. How do you explain "Mom, Dad, this sacred tradition that build your life is now obsolete and unnecessary. Trust me." The only thing that helps is education, and unfortunately, many traditions don't place enough value on it.
icy dawn female mutilation has nothing to do with religion, it’s a culture/tradition. I’m a Muslim woman and I don’t know any woman that has been through that.
I still believe in the inherent value of tradition, because so many traditions genuinely have good reasons behind them...but you're right, it's always important to think critically and ask why,
"Nowadays whenever a guy is proposing, most of the time he gets a negative answer from girls." Yeah, because they're afraid they'll get kidnapped!
No it's different. If she refuses then it shows she is not a slut so she will every time he proposes so what the film maker was saying is that for the sake of reputation she has to be kidnapped. It's sad and awful that there is so many layers keeping people from what they want in Turkic country's.
It's a good country to start a bodyguard and security service business.
Lol
@øranuto husband quarterly bride bonus
Lol
@øranuto husband so? The currency is prob also way lower there so you could still live like a king
Stonks
How did you guys get married?
Them: "Stockholm Syndrome"
Exactly ..😢
sometimes, old tradition has to go and never to be practiced anymore. This one is an example.
It hurts and breaks my heart just by watching this.
I don't think this tradition will be going anytime soon lmao
And then the Kyrgyz conservative would say "those libtard shoving progressive idea down our throat. They even forbid us to bride kidnapping."
I guess the Feminist liberal western version were we have between 70 to 80 percent divorce rate MOSTLY filed by toxic Feminist women looking for the better deal...
At least they have tradition
Hey lets seppuku this friday 不见不散 Jk
this is a pretty good old tradition and i would love to see that happening all around the world, it is a good representation of sharia and all must respect it, allah gave us this legacy and we must follow and propagate it, think about it if a woman is not contested upon then what is the value of her, at the end she's gonna end up like a useless thing in the home, that's why she must prepare herself for this contest and must not take this practice as kidnapping, rather it is more like "the one who comes first gets it all."
"I am very nervous" he says before kidnapping a woman. MAYBE THATS YOUR BRAIN SAYING OH I SHOULDNT DO THIS.
Lol to be fair anyone would be nervous before proposing
Lonick TBH I DON’T THINK HE HAS A BRAIN
So you should not do anything that make you nervous? Welcome to your virgin incel life
Lonick He’s acting like “oh I’m cute and quirky and I’m nervous in a cute way to propose to my adorable girlfriend”
Although this is a terrible practice and I'm not trying to say this is okay, I think the young men have been heavily pressured by their family to kidnap a woman. The young men are probably scared of being rejected by their families, therefore they are doing this to remain connected to their families. I want to reiterate that I do not like this practice, it is wrong and I think it should be eliminated.
Well now I’m crying, my heart breaks for every woman that goes through this.
@Duck Sauce Right? This is why I hate western feminazis. They cry and whine about being oppressed when shit like this is happening and more to women all around the world. I get the west has its problems, no country is perfect but when you're worried about catcalling while some woman in another country is being forced to marry someone and being raped after, you really need to get your priorities straight.
Scooters Videos they were pointing out how privileged people are for complaining about nonexistent issues, such as manspreading and the wage gap in America. While those who are actually oppressed are being kidnapped and forced into marriage, stoned to death for defending yourself against rape, and much much more.
otto at least someone here agrees with me😂😂
Scooters Videos He is not saying he's oppressed you idiot.
Duck Sauce incel cringe
“No means yes , and yes means yes
That’s our mentality “
The sad part is that the women themselves are supporting such a thing!
DaFaQ pRuShUnT
They literally have no choice. Their lives will be hell, otherwise.
They’re LITERALLY under mind control. Propaganda and brain washing. Like Stockholm Syndrome.
Patriarchy and men suppressing women at its finest, as usual. (& I fucking HATE modern-day FemiNazi Liberalism). But it’s just the truth, here. & Stating that truth, isn’t feminism, or Liberal. Have to say that preemptively, before someone gets butthurt by this truth. LOL “It is what it is”. (One of my fav sayings).
Stop victim blaming whitey!
Women is the plural form of woman BTW, DaFaQ.
It is called "grooming" of abuse. It is not support. You heard one of wives speaking earlier confronting her husband with his vicious kidnap.
wiptide
It’s especially fucked up because some of these women love the men. They already agreed to/wanted to marry them. They simply didn’t want to be kidnapped! (Can you blame them)?
& In this case here, the couple had talked about it, and he even promised her he would never do that to her when they were going to be getting married… But he did.
They literally start their relationship off, by him being an untrustworthy, lying piece of shit who can’t keep his word from the get go. If they don’t think that plants a seed in these poor women’s heads, it does. (Doubt they care)...It is so fucked up.
*Not only that, but it is disrespectful to the men themselves* !
Because if you have to kidnap a woman to get her to marry you, then you’re a sorry ass motherfucker LOL don’t you want somebody to marry you because they want to?! Not selling yourself short by forcing somebody?! So really these guys are disrespecting themselves, even more so.
But are too stupid and engrained in their cultures and heads, too see it. 😔
I started crying when she sobbed for her mom. I can't imagine what it must be like to go through this; it's atrocious.
I'd spit on those women. They wouldn't want me as a daughter-in-law by the time I got through with them.
If I'm the mum, that "Husbands" gonads would disappear then he wouldn't need to worry about marriage.
This is deeply disturbing, I'm in total shock
It's totally, utterly sick. If I was the girl in that car I would have been trying to gouge their eyes out of their skulls.
That ones not real painting rd just a demonstration
The next episode : husband poisoning in Kyrgystan
Yeah!!!! I like it the should do it🤣😂
@Melanin Queen shouldn't had kidnapped the lady. Guy got it coming to him.
i’d love to see that LMAOO
😂😂😂😂😂
This should be legal lol
Bride’s grandma: You’re gonna let her finish school, right?
Groom’s family: ehe
😭
She has a terrible friend, like wtf....
I am horrified.
The bride doesn't need enemies if shes got friends like that.
She will do the same in her friends position..... It's what their tradition. Tradition they all believe in....lol
@Andrew McDougall it's not about power. Girls believe in that tradition too. She will do the same in her friends position.
The part is trust no one there. Everyone's shady
Thats not even a friend 😬
imagine living there and having to worry about being kidnapped and forced into marriage no matter what
Well if you live there.....I recommend you move out or don't fall in love with someone when you living in some part where bride kidnapping is a tradition before you marriage.
MR AD as a girl that’s hard no matter what country
Well what do you expect from a country that was named by somebody who just smashed their face on the keyboard
@@deadmeme4256 wonder what week they smoking.....I need to know.
Fuckin dope
That little baby girl dancing while eating... Im scared for her future..
😭😭😭😭😭
😂😂😂😂
Don't be dear Jiminie. We got law against kidnapping in 2013.
@@dionysusswine60 but some will not stop 😔
@@rixnna2430 well since 2017 we didn't get serious accident with this crime)
I heard this was a common tradition back in the cowboy days at Northern Mexico. My grandma was kidnapped once and had a baby from a runaway guy, she never saw him again, that baby is my aunt and she looks slightly different than my mom and the other siblings
That’s just rape not forced marriage
@@graceg3250excuse me 'JUST' rape? Are you serious?