End of Protests in Britain? The Controversial 'Police, Crime, Sentencing & Courts Bill' - TLDR News
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- Опубліковано 8 жов 2024
- This week the government's new Police, Crime, Sentencing & Courts Bill has come under fire, with many claiming that the bill aims to limit the right to protest in Britain significantly. So in this video we examine the bill, find out what exactly it seems to do and how the government defends it.
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The whole “violence against women and girls” argument seems to be more of an excuse to push through controversial laws. I don’t see how making defacing statues illegal will help women.
Its a smart tactic, so that they can criticise any opposition as against "protecting women and girl, and a safer britain".
Look at priti patels twitter, tories must be getting disy because all they do is spin.
Duh
It’s got nothing to do with the rest of the bill. It should be illegal to structure laws bills in a misleading way like this and there’s no reason why they couldn’t be two separate bills.
They're taking lessons from the US -law-making- law-pushing textbook.
Seriously, this practice should be illegal.
The women are safer if you don't let them protest, obviously...
Kind of ironic how a bill aimed to prevent protests will inevitably create more
I don't think so. This nation has been neutered. Long ago. And this bill proves it.
@@judahrex as a Englishman. It's true.
@@Prudenprocom I don't know there's a lot of very pissed off people. We've got a huge (and growing) amount of inequality in this country and an increasingly authoritarian and right wing government. Couple that to the economic fallout of Brexit and Coronavirus and I doubt the next few years are going to be pretty.
I didn't think it's going to create more protests, but I do think the pressure valve will blow at some point. Then there will be no stopping it, it won't be a protest but a full on bloody riot and I do mean bloody. A lot of people will get hurt on both sides.
You can only push people so far and I fear this is just the calm before the storm 🤬😠😥🇪🇺🇬🇧🇪🇺
UKSSR
If Theresa May is the one holding the Conservative to account rather than the opposition says a lot doesn’t it.
Starmer is an absolute wet-wipe. Can't believe I thought he would be a good party leader during the leadership election
@@robertwinslade3104 You're not alone there...
There’s literally a part of the video showing he’s opposing it.
@@adamboh393 they weren't planning on opposing it until like 2 days ago, also he's failed to oppose them on several other important bills such as that horrific Spycops bill
@@robertwinslade3104
Labour have been a terrible opposition party more often than not, and the Tories have been a terribly ruling party more often than not, and the Lib Dems have been a terrible minority party more often than not.
Sucks but this is pretty much the norm.
“There is freedom of speech, but I cannot guarantee freedom after speech.”
Edi Amin the former dictator of Uganda.
This is true for every country, only difference is the extent i.e. where the lines are drawn. There's no country in the history with absolute freedom of speech. There will inevitably come times where ensuring one groups freedom and rights will impede another's freedom of expression. That's where a judgement call need to me made.
Maybe Patel's family supported Amin, until he kicked them out Uganda. 😏
@@the80386 When the line that has been drawn is defined as "annoyance," then freedom itself has been redefined. And protest prohibited.
Edi? Was that Idi's polite little brother?
@@the80386 freedom of speech never impedes someones rights, only actions do. In a sociaty full of sensible people that would not even be an issues, but we live in a sociaty where blameing each other for everything is the key, its always about us versus them, and there is enough retarded people to believe that is right. The modern push to errode freedom of speech is just a great example of this, its the push to silence those that have things to say you disagree with, because words are violence, atleast in the minds of some deranged individuals.
"If you can't abide by the rules of this country then you need to go somewhere else. PRISON!" WTF dude?! Half our MPs should be locked up by that statement.
That guys an idiot. Prisons are governed by the same laws as the rest of the UK.
Indeed ypur right
"Half" seems a little low as an estimate tbh...
Who is that person?
That line coming from an ELECTED member of parliament...
Should terrify you.
It terrifies me.
That is some seriously fucked up shit.
You know a security bill is going too far when Theresa May thinks its dangerous
She still voted for it, didn't even abstain.
hear, hear. If the mother of the snoopers charter and the hostile environment thinks it's going too far, we have a red flag
@@zwabTheRealOne still voted for it as probably agreed with it in the most part. committee readings and that can help change it hopefully, no doubt May will try to have some part in this. but who knows with this government anymore
@@zwabTheRealOne vote action speaks louder than bullshit speech.
British Women: “The police were too brutal against our protest.”
Tories: “We hear you, and we will protect you... by giving the police more power to break up protests.”
You need to replace your opening "British women" with "People who attend any excuse for a protest as are attention seekers who think they are special"
@@danielwebb8402 people who regularly protest are of course going to protest this law as it makes their activities illegal.
@@danielwebb8402 a member of the police force killed an innocent woman, garnering national attention and you think people are turning up to the protest for a jolly?
@@Jay_Johnson The point I was trying to make (and failing) was that those arrested were not the family and friends. Unless you think it is a coincidence that the handful arrested just happened to be the professional protestors rather than normal people. Which it may be. I just don't mathematically believe that.
@@samjones7296 I think the vast majority were there to pay their respects.
I think a sub-section of them would attend a protest against the cost of eggs as they just think they are special and uniquely should have their opinion heard / are more important than others. And the less than handful arrested weren't the first but the later.
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible, will make violent revolution inevitable.”
John F Kennedy
Well said
Good point, except from the fact that peaceful protests are not being shut down at all, but the violent and disruptive protests are. We must voice those with reason over those without
@@obviousgorilla124 They’re going to shut down any protest, it doesn’t matter if it’s peaceful or not if it doesn’t benefit them, then it’s getting shut down.
@@beerbellythor7556 that's literally against the law, it doesn't shut down all protests, and do you realise how much these protesters get away with? I know a few police officers, and they explained to me how much they can stop and how much they allow purely from the kindness of their hearts, you're speaking pure jibberish.
@@obviousgorilla124 Except it isn’t a good point. People look at the civil rights movement protest through tinted glasses now but virtually all of those were deemed illegal. Study how cops in America use to break down Union protest before WW2, it’s the same technique they reintroduced here. A military one whose purpose is controlled chaos-sweeping legal protesters out static “zones”. Once they do that all they got to do is start swinging or pushing on a group protest to get a reaction because unless the protesters are organized and trained (like the 2nd wave were during the CRM) then small groups within the protest are going to respond differently & some are going to physically defend themselves. Basic human nature. While I’ve only seen a video of one of the recent protests in UK, It was exactly what they were doing. And they did it here in St. Louis here during their BLM marches on the second night of protests. And heavens know how many more. It’s a fascist move and extremely anti freedom of speech.
This bill should NEVER pass. People’s right to protest must be protected no matter how annoying they can be and no one individual should ever be able to effectively ban protests- either specific ones or more generally.
Ironically the least democratic part of the government the House of Lords means their will be a chance they’ll reject it
@@misterb3037 But that has limits. Hopefully there will be amendments.
@Natnael Guliano Of course, if these laws are applied reasonably, they are fine. But when, not if, someone rises to power with worse motives these laws can be abused very easily
@Natnael Guliano "Shutting down entire cities" where ?, name just one !
That clause is put in place to stop protesters who use their protest to limit others freedom of speech and expression. Such as speakers at unis who aren't woke enough
When Theresa May is the one in the room that sounds reasonable, you know the country is in deep trouble
@Bodhi there was word going around at the time that the higher-ups just decided to pick Boris for whatever reason, I never bothered to know if it was true or not but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@Bodhi ohhh damn :O
May was not a good leader, but she is a good minister of parliament. A true patreot, and someone I can genuinely respect, and in this, the only one talking sense.
Treasonous May
Don't claim to protect women while stripping back our ability to have a voice.
You have a voice but nobody does en-masse in person because of our extensive coronavirus laws which nobody has stood up against till now
Not everything is about women. You're not any more important than any other group.
@@EvenWaysMusic Oh shut up. Did you even watch the video? The government is directly framing this as a bill to protect women from abuse - while at the same time passing laws that will prevent them from using their voices publicly. So this is DIRECTLY about women and how the government is pretending to be on their side. They aren't pretending this is good for the rest of us, so there's a clear distinction there.
@@aaron99ification Not everything is about women. But sure, give them free public transport in the evenings while locking males up at 6pm. Love that male privilege
@@EvenWaysMusic Bruh.....
The first step I would make for crime prevention is to remove this government.
If the Government is not for the people then we need to remove it and make one that is for the people!
I hear you but, sadly there isn’t anyone that will fit the position.
THEY ARE ALL THE SAME!
@@DogSerious this is the government the people voted for, where have been lately 🙄
@@misterm1336 people will never realise this they will continue to play to the elites by voting (a means the elites use to placate the public into thinking they are in control, when in reality it just lets them take turns fucking us over).
@@ukdashcamguy500 indeed it’s true.
People often pointing fingers to Asia where all countries are under one dictatorship or another.
In reality, is it any different in the west?
No it isn’t, it’s a different form disguised as elections.
What choice do we have?
It’s either Satan or Lucifer.
"And we are building more prisons" always the sign of a healthy democracy
Good to see i wasn’t the only person picking up on that.
@@royblekman8186 It was reported, albeit quite a few years ago now and no doubt, has not changed, that the UK has more people per capita in prison than anywhere else in Europe. That says something about British society.
Built by private groups for profit.
@@Antonnick Group4?
They are targeting the wrong people, those that are actually trying to stop crime against women get sent to prison. It's a complete inversion. Its an attack on the feminine and democracy.
RE: The rules surrounding protests - I have a really bad feeling about this. Curtailing the right to protest is what authoritarian states do.
U have to have sympathy for the people who live near these protests that seem to happen atleast once a month
Depends what you're protesting for
@@aaroncousins4750 Enough sympathy that someone protesting about government corruption gets a 10 year stretch in the slammer?
@@Hihrise7733 In my case, against the proliferation of nuclear weapons..
@NotTheBBCNewz I don't think you're making a point here. There are protestors taking selfies, but that doesn't mean they're the majority, and that doesn't prove they're narcissists. And even some protests might be missing the point, that doesn't mean we have to give power to the government to put more restrictions on protests. It might be true that protests don't always make actual changes, but its symbolic power of showing concerns and objections to social issues are always the foundation of a democratic society
I was not expecting former PM May to stand against her own party, especially at the end with the popular and populist part.
I'm not really surprised for a number of reasons. Firstly, she is legitimately a Conservative, there's a lot in the party now that are sufficiently to the right that makes it difficult to call them that. Secondly, a lot of them have Bojo to thank for them being elected so they aren't going to speak up. Lastly, May is a political adversary of Bojo so I'm sure she likes to take advantage of the opportunity this presents. In reality, the only reason this bill has been produced is to remove freedom of speech and give landowners easier access to the police to shift travellers.
Theresa may was a moderate conservative, it’s like saying I didn’t expect Corbin to criticise kier. Now the party is run by the far right ERG, or at least the government does everything they want.
She voted for it
@@ONeill01 unsurprising, she never had the backbone.
She's the one who coined "Nasty Party". I think she's a ghoul but I never doubted that she's sincere and one of the few even vaguely respectable people in the house.
as a woman in the UK, this bill does not comfort me at all, but makes me feel more unsafe than ever, not to mention patronised
Protesting during a pandemic is disgusting but Labour voters defend paedophiles so that says it all.
Why?
@@PM-qi4mhwe shouldnt have to BE protesting, protestors arent being selfish by exercising their rights mate
@@chriswestwood3289 Clamping down on protestors and travellers under the guise of "protecting women and girls" is the part that makes me feel unsafe and patronised
@@PM-qi4mh ever hear of people getting desperate when they are forced to lose everything??? You must be sitting fat and comfy patting yourself on the back.
"prevent Impact" wait is that the same thing a russian once told me?
" _you can speak freely in russia, as long as nobody hears you_ "
Freedom of speech as long as no one can hear you
There is no such thing as freedom of speech in Britain.
Got a problem with immigration levels? hAtE sPeEch
Concerned with Islamic radicalisation? hAtE sPeEch
Think there's only two genders? hAtE sPeEch
@@terrybunch7313 please don't play the victim, you are entitled to your opinion as anyone else. You say hate spech others say woke.
What we are discussing here is more than that, and I'd like if you kept the discussion on to what's important, one thing is disliking an opinion with words quite an other is limiting it with laws.
@@herlescraft When you can be jailed for "unpopular opinions" the whole concept of freedom of speech is thrown in the gutter. People think that hate speech laws are there to protect minorities. Newflash - they're not. It's just another way for the government to police language and curb social unrest.
@@terrybunch7313 i see plenty of your so called "unpopular opinions" being displayed in uk politics and rhetoric, if I'm not mistaken brexit was campaigned on the first one you mentioned so i will repeat myself, don't play the victim.
And the government says they're concerned about free speech issues on university campuses - _ - sure
This government is full of lies and corruption it will end
I wonder if this will affect university free speech 🤔
The Parliament doesn't want to address the issues being protested so they're trying to suppress protests.
They're kinda lazy, aren't they?
@@666mrdoctor
Don't kid yourself into thinking Labour are any better. Or the SNP or any of our major political parties. Every one of them is populated to the core with petty tyrants.
@@Bushflare you may or may not be right but only one party is introducing a bill that stops protest. You are conflating what one might do with what one is doing.
Making it a crime to be annoying is the most conservative thing ever
Are you aware of the SNPs new and amazingly vague hatecrime bill?
Also it speaks of an astounding lack of self-knowledge and insight, seeing just how annoying conservatives can get.
It is unbelievably based
All for it. Sick and tired of protest wankers ruining everything for the rest of us. Just emerging from a pandemic? Don't worry. Protest wankers will get it spread more and keep you in lockdown.
Funny how the people calling everyone else "snowflakes" are, in fact, the biggest snowflakes....
It’s a horrifying bill, there’s no excuse for it.
Whats horrifying us the amount of people saying this same as you. Why do you care police already have the right to disband any public protest they deem breaches the peace. You already have to apply for permission to protest. These laws have existed since 1986. But your bored so I guess now you care. Just FYI you dont have freedom of speech, the right to defend yourself or the right to privacy either. But as stated you dont actually care about rights your just bored 👏
@@notreal1477 The law allows for disbanding non-peaceful protest so advocating more power is clearly in breach of PEACEFUL protests and not violent ones. Our rights are being whittled away....
@@duncanwood7493 I dont think the bill goes far enough. Should give the police the right to fire rubber bullets and use water cannons on mass protests under lockdown conditions.
@@ukdashcamguy500 Be careful what you wish for, you may want to protest about something one day, and sooner than you might think.
@@dellawrence4323 Better ways to protest than to wander around in the streets being a dickhead during a pandemic....
All the jeering in the house of commons is pretty annoying, and it's in a public building.
Lock up the MPs?
Hear hear, bahbahbahbahbahbah
Madlad protest: Play house of commons jeering at loud volume outside 10 Downing Street
ORDA!! OORRRDAAAAAAA!!
@@Karagoth444 That is a fantastic idea
Get em
I wonder if any politician in France would be suicidal enough to try the same thing .
Brits should really express themselves more like us.
The English (and I am English) love bending over for those they consider their betters. We won't have better governance than this because we don't deserve it.
The French would inmediately bring out the guillotines 😂😂😂😂😂
@@matttrevers2552
Good thing I don't see anyone as my better.
if its illegal to be annoying does that mean we can launch a prosecution against Matt Hancock
Don’t forget Priti Patel.
If burning businesses and police cars and assaulting police officers and breaking their bones is merely 'annoying' then I am allow to enter your home and start smashing everything up. It is only annoying, no need to call the police.
@@Aegor-Rivers This bill would have made the peaceful protest that took place all day long illegal too. Anyone looking at footage throughout the day from Bristol can see that the events that took place after dark involved only a handful of people leftover from the day and the behaviour was in total contrast to how the protest had up until that point been conducted.. I consider myself right of centre for the most part but that distinction is still clear as night and day to me. When you stand by and allow other peoples freedoms to be taken away, you are usually the next person to lose some. This bill is no good for anybody.
@@PsyFactors Majority of the protests this year have not been peaceful. They are trying to copy America even though we do not have issues like that. I'm not against protests but I would not want my business/home destroyed over it. I do not see the need in destroying property belonging to innocent people. All that does is turn people against you. It does not help when a lot of the protesters are smirking university students who think they are better than everyone yet they have less experience than everyone. They are the ones obsessed with statue smashing and demonise England despite being born there. When these people are heavily involved in something, it always goes wrong. We had the London Riots where an elderly man was stamped on and killed because of the looting. That should never have been allowed to happen.
@@Aegor-Rivers the majority of protestors have been peaceful. A minority have been violent. If somebody wants to go and stand outside parliament with a sign and a tambourine then let them. Denying them that right is a very slippery slope.
“People will believe what the media tells them they believe” - George Orwell
He would know, considering his brother.....
Those who will give up freedom for security, deserve neither.
And lose both
You have simplified the quote but yes, correct.
What of those who trample on the liberties of others for the sake of freedom?
An example on an individual level, “I should be allowed to smoke on a plane”
Is giving up this freedom for security something deserving in the restriction of both?
@@stephenrochester6309"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety" is the full and original quote. I wouldn't say that the ability to smoke on a plane is an "essential liberty" so therefore it does not fall within the meaning of "deserving security". Bearing in mind of course that any reasonable person in today's world would be abusing liberty by deliberately smoking near others.
Likewise the ability to peacefully gather and protest should never be infringed upon regardless of the topic or reason, even for the most evil of purposes. Incitement of violence to immediately harm people is different however as that is stopping other people from having their "essential liberty".
Safe to say though that modern society has become so weak and degraded that these quotes are irrelevant.
@@razorbird789
Ah, you see that quote is a lot better and makes all the difference. I can stand behind that any day.
I agree, the protest law changes described in this video are veering towards authoritarianism, and I’m not for that at all, even if I have never protested in my life I believe people should have a right to, as I may need to one day also, you never know.
Thank you taking the time to talk about this Tl;dr.
The lack of media coverage on this has been appalling.
Yeah I was shocked that the only media coverage I could find was 1-2 minute videos explaining that there were protests. Thanks god for TLDR!
Welcome to the righty bias of modern British media. The lack of coverage is bc the agree without and don't want to stir up opposition
@@AlexaMG35 Sadly I am very aware of it, and yet they've managed to convince a frightening number of people that's its the left plotting against them, whilst they continue to pull all the strings. These outlets don't want an informed electorate, they want lemmings!
Hong Kong People: *Can't protest in China*
Also Hong Kong People: Let's go protest in the UK!!!!
The UK:
Hippity hoppity, your rights are my property
I don’t think they would care about them protesting _china_ in the uk. The law is just so the tories don’t look bad so no doubt they will pick and mix the protests they want. Anti Chinese democracy protests the Tories will love so probably fund it lol - knowing them xd
Maybe this will deter HKers from coming to the UK. What they couldn't do there now they can't do here...
Why would they protest in the UK? Unless this bill included you are going to prison for saying fuck the queen
More rights in North Korea now than in the uk 🇬🇧now
Don't forget that it was a police officer who attacked Sarah.
And he has been arrested otherwise you wouldn’t have known about it.
Oh my goodness, I never thought the day would come when I would take anything Teresa May said seriously but I have to hand it to her for voicing these concerns.
She wasn't impressed with Priti Patel's 'tribute', was she? There was a kind of frozen 'better try not to *actually* roll my eyes' expression going on there...
She still voted for it though. Her words are and always have been empty.
@@CharltonCharles Hopefully, no one will misconstrue my comment for having anything but unending disdain for the treasonous hag.
Tough to say which is worse, really. Those who don't have a conscience at all, or those who sort of do but work around it!
@@Microtherion Why should there be a distinction? Perhaps those with no conscience are simply psychotic which makes those who knowingly work around it, the worst of the bunch because they make a conscious choice.
the UK is going authoritarian here and they are using Sarah's death to pass this bill, I appreciate what Theresa May has said in the parliament when she addressed some of the controversial aspects of the bill
Bill had first reading before vigil outrage, probably drafted before her death.
@@0w784g yup u are probably true but it still disgusting that her death is used, and violence against women in general, to pass such an outrageous bill
@Bodhi then I guess I was too hopeful since I, so badly, want to see someone with good thinking in the parliament but I guess I was wrong
The UK is authoriatarian and has been for a while
@@sahara-lu6eq disgusting that people's deaths are used by others as an opportunity to push something they wouldn't otherwise have even said. There's being progressive and then there's being addicted to progression. Being progressive itself isn't a problem but being addicted to it is bad because then you analyse everything and look for ways to improve it that directly improve your own life
While I understand why there may have to be some restrictions on mass protesting in the context of the pandemic, it’s telling that this legislation is not time-bound, I.e. it could be used long after the pandemic ends to quash dissent.
Never waste a good crisis, as the old saying goes.
True, but those restriction don't seem to target crowding, but disruption and noise. In other words, you can only protest as long as you don't make any actual impact.
@@ten_tego_teges but that is to the opinion of the home secretary. And what is the definition of impact? Throwing litter on the ground from buying food from food stalls whilst protesting?
It's all very vague and wooly
@@tonyb76 Yeah, I agree.
They could have used the pandemic for some really positive reforms - improving health service and wages of staff, new ways of educating people, going big on ending homelessness, improvements to welfare system etc.
Instead chose to go the way of Myanmar, Russia, North Korea and Saudi
@@ten_tego_teges If there is no Impact what's the point of making Protest in the first place when nobody can see or hear you
Gotta hand it to Theresa May, whenever there's a national debate being discussed in the House of Commons, she's always very articulate and very solid points when delivering her argument. Even in the past when I've disagreed with what she has to say, she says it better and more persuasively than most.
Sometimes I wonder if she was a prime minister at any other time she would have been a really great one
She might have resigned, but at least she kept it real. Unlike Boris and his clowns who pretend to not know what they're doing, only to later admit it.
The whole "you have nothing to fear, if you have nothing to hide" mentality briefly shown here is scary
Welcome to right wing government.
Why?
@@paulcashin50 what's the decibel level allowed at protests? Whatever a single butt hurt copper decides? Every power the police have been given has been abused by them. In 2010, The Metropolitan police recorded 478,000 searches were recorded using Section 44 to justify them. Not a single arrest was made for terrorism offences from those 478,000 searches. Nearly half a million people stopped & searched under suspicion of being terrorists in a single year. That power was removed in 2011.
You realise that most of these protests are riots, right? They were told not to gather around like idiots because of the pandemic so they decided to start a riot and burn cars and assault police officers. Did you see the rioters? They did not even know why they were rioting. Some looked high and most the unexperienced university student who cries about fascism when mummykins says no.
@@blackjackmedia2959 , i tried to explain this problem to others on UA-cam, including your accurate assessment regarding the misuse of Terrorism legislation, and they seemed unable to comprehend a fairly straightforward matter. The problem is that all the Police have to do is make a subjective, opinion based decision which will result in a person being arrested and charged, and that person then have to prove that they have not performed any unlawful act. Some seem to believe that the presumption of innocence and the onus of proof actually exists, until they find they who are fighting the blue wall and the judiciary, who are both paid by the Government.
Seriously messed up when you consider how little effect writing to an MP or signing a petition usually has nowadays. Quiet (non disruptive) protests don't work, you need to get loud to be heard.
It started in earnest with Thatcher destroying labour unions now their coming for the rest of us
Yeah but you know the conservatives will still win in the general election which is the sad thing
How little effect protests even have either now!
If protests were getting more and more extreme (debatable) that would be why imo
@@BaileyZKerr this government doesn’t care, the conservative base will still vote for them, even if it makes everyone’s life’s worse
@@Andrew-ob5ij Of course, majority of media are right wing and the FPTP voting model is advantageous to conservatives.
8:22 Authoritarianism much? The message I'm getting is: "If you're not happy under tory boot, you deserve to be in prison, and we've hired extra staff to make it easier for us to imprison you".
Sadly many genuinely believe that there is nothing dangerous in empowering the police in any way, because of the 'if you don't do anything wrong you've got nothing to worry about' arsegravy.
First: that's not an authoritarian statement. If you break the laws of a country then you should be In prison. Secondly: You fools already gave up your gun privileges and your freedom of speech to the government a while ago. Restricting rights to protect the greater public is nothing new; it's the basis of your entire legal system. When conservative authoritarians want to use that granted power to shut up the people crying about pretend racism in your country THEN that's when you speak out. It's far too late and you all have nobody to blame but yourselves.
@@IconoclastX That's a valid opinion if policing were perfect, it isn't. This will lead to innocent people being preyed upon by the police while the criminals keep on going. As far as I'm aware crime was already illegal. Also, we have a lot less school shootings.
@@nathanbowd6728 of course we have less school shootings, no need for them, they already took our guns 😔
If you’re not happy with the Tory boot, vote them out.
“If you dont want to live by the rules, go to a place that has different rules...prison” is that prison the government? They seem to break the rules quite often and get away with everything
I think if the mass majority don't want the new rules. They should leave and go some where else that has them rules. I mean we're ment to live in a democracy
Timmeh or why don’t the minority who do want them go somewhere else?
@@BenEyah sorry thats completely my bad I just realised how I worded it. I ment if the majority don't want the new rules then the minority should leave and go some where else that has them rules. Sorry my bad
So you can only legally have a protest where nobody will hear it. Wow.
It’s basically thatchers union legislation but for everyone
The Designated Protest Field is available July 4th, location is a prime muddy pit in the middle of Kent...
Not so. You can also protest if the government doesn't find the protest 'annoying'.
So mimes, while silent, are really annoying. That means they can't protest. I guess they will continue to be silenced. Both by this new law and their own personal choice,
No, I think that is illegal too!
I utterly hate how the government can get away from all responsibility by just pretending to not understand what is angering people. They know full well why this transparent crackdown on freedom causes outrage, but they know that they will have no actual consequences from it though and so just don't care.
Don't worry, conservatives won't stand for this socialist nonsense. Unfortunately, protesting requires standing up, and taking leave from work😅
The resemblance of this bill to Zimbabwe's Public Order and Security Act is uncanny. The Zimbabwean law drew international sanctions on that country from Europe and the USA, what's good for the goose is good for the gander too, we are on a slippery slope now.
It all began with Thatcher restricting unions rights to organize
@Natnael Guliano not yet....
@Natnael Guliano I've lived in both countries and I can only comment based on my genuine lived experiences. But thank you for your opinions.
@Natnael Guliano Zimbabwe WAS comparable to the UK, before it was misruled into the ground. A similar series of stupid decisions could lead to a similar result.
@Natnael Guliano It used to be known as the breadbasket of Africa with a currency stronger than the USD.
Hyperinflation became a massive problem for Zimbabwe. What could your grandfather buy for one British pound compared to what you can get now?
How far is the UK now from its economic peak? Is the change as much as Zimbabwe from its zenith? I think there are some comparisons to be made. At the very least, there are some lessons to be learned.
The last resort to those already ignored now lose the last opportunity to be heard or seen. The creep of the state surely now looks like a full on charge. Not even a discrete removal of speech.
bollocks, your comment has not been removed has it?
So what did you get your 10 year sentence for?
Well I stood outside poundland shouting "la la la I'm a potato" for 15 minutes?
I imagine a worn down cell Michael Palin asking John Cleese what’s he’s in for.
You were extremely disrespectful to the Irish community. 10 years in the Gulag.
They wouldn’t get a prison sentences ,they would more likely sectioned under the mental health act ,maybe indefinitely .
@@maskedavenger2578 not much chance of that, very hard to get mental health care without doing something "stupid" - ie attempted suicide or a serious crime.
@@ukdashcamguy500 What do you think standing outside Poundland & shouting “ la la la I’m a potato for 15 mins is if not doing something stupid & totally loco ?
This is what happens when you don't have a robust constitution and the means to defend it. It's a weird day when Theresa May is the voice of reason.
Oh now hold on. We do have both of those things, or close enough anyway. There are conventions and laws that politicians have to follow, including such things as protection of free speech, and they are adjudicated by a supreme court.
It's true that our constitution is more easily changed than other countries, but that is really not relevant here, since there was no attempt to change the constitution going on. If someone wants to challenge this bill, they can, by going to the supreme court.
@@globalincident694
Whilst we have a constitution it is far from 'robust' and our Supreme Court is somehow worse and more Partisan than America's so it's not like we've got a good leg to stand on here.
Robust? Yet, to compare to America it has a lot of amendments.
@@Bushflare What's your basis for that claim?
@@666mrdoctor You want to get rid of the monarchy? I mean there are some benefits to that but it won't really help with issues like this one.
Just found out they are changing the voting rules in London too. I am starting to think that we're not living in a functional democracy.
Maybe not even a democracy anymore?
We barely were a democracy before and now...
@@mallow5828 last time France got guillotine happy, they tried to take over Europe
@@666mrdoctor
*peers at Bush, Trump, & Biden compared to Lizzie 2*
You uh... you confident in that position, my dude?
Marshmallow-with-a-sweater no we have our own four quarters and drawn I think it's called
For the first time in my life it looks like I now have something to protest about .......my right to protest!
Total control is the end game. People will never have a say If they continue to give In.
You actually thinking people have a say is why this bill is needed, the public are clueless.
*A fraction of the people are beginning to SEE through the VEIL* of brainwashing and the lies of the system.
The suppression will continue undeterred, unless more people *WAKE up,* and say:
*ENOUGH IS ENOUGH*
@@solis2163 Ghandi had the right idea of non-compliance.
@@BritishRail60062 that's the only way left, "bend or break?" That's the only two things left. The irony is that even if you bend, the system will eventually break you anyway. So it's better to at least go down with some dignity and respect....they may break you but they can not break your spirit and soul.
People have a say almost every year. People vote in local and general elections and toris always win. A small minority of rape sympathizers and rioters are against this bill.
We move closer to dystopia with every passing day
Capitalism is a dystopia they’re just removing the mask
The V for Vendetta one
I think we may already be there.
@@Daniboi971 more police not this crazy bill
We all need to look and see what the govt are trying to push through while we are all distracted by this bill. They wouldn't be highlighting this massively if they were not trying to do something nefarious in the shadows.
Perhaps information came to light in the Sarah Everard court case....
Its all distractions from everything else, the fact is if we're running around trying to stop this crazy shit going through, we aren't focusing on the actual people proposing the crazy shit in the first place
Lynn Cameron - you are so right.
They don't need to act in the shadows, they just do it in broad daylight and few enough people give a crap that they know it won't effect the next election.
It's only beginning & nobody seems to notice,,,,,apart from some of us who know what's coming because people are robots FFS!!!
“All I want to say is that they don’t really care about us”
Michael Jackson said it!
"never have done" *points gun*
When you begin to crack down on people’s right to protest then you have taken the first step down a dark and terrible road...
The first step was in the 80s with Thatcher killing the peoples right to organize labour
@@lakeblackBLM Thatcher killing the right of unions to shut down the country and hold it to ransom*
@@aaronb2779 management shut down the country, not unions.
The UK is quite a long way down that route. The previous step was taken when the protests were heard in the house of commons.
Meanwhile in the authoritarian EU, nothing like this has been proposed.
"bUt OuR sOvErEiGnTy!" What a fucking joke. One step closer to the predictions in Orwell's 1984.
I'm pretty sure that kind of bill would be struck down by an EU court as illegal.
I doubt the this bill would have passed muster with the ECHR. Oh the irony.
Perhaps they have the memories of Hitler, franco, Mussolini, occupied by authoritarian governments that they understand how quickly meaningful laws become abused?
@@ten_tego_teges It's the Council of Europe and the European Court of Human Rights that handles such cases. The UK is and will be a participating member of both. Nothing has changed in this aspect.
If the new legislation passed and is applied in a way that breaches the international treaties as defined by the court, the UK can be called to change the law. However, the Council of Europe has little in ways to enforce any decisions made by it's courts.
Blimey! I'm agreeing with Theresa May...these are weird times indeed
She had her little PR moment in the spotlight... then voted 'Yes' to the bill.
Overton window's on the move again.
@@tSp289 Last time I looked, someone had thrown a brick through it : /
@@garychap8384 Honestly I can't blame them. This latest bill is most utter bullshit I have ever heard coming out of a UK court. Johnson and Patel need removing immediately. I'm not at all supporting attacking police stations; they just enforce the laws they're given, but we can not accept this shit. It's not Britain any more if we do.
@@tSp289 Britain has not been britain for decades. People fought in world wars to keep this country British. For what? They died in vain.
Scary times, UK. The sort of people who would clamp down on liberty for the sake of trying to soothe their interminable fear are a scourge on our side of the pond too.
Protesting during a pandemic is disgusting but Labour voters defend paedophiles so that says it all.
@@PM-qi4mh Well, that bit about defending pedophiles sure sounds like rank hyperbole, but I am an outsider. Regardless, and though I certainly think protesting during a pandemic should not be done lightly, it sounds like your government is curtailing your ability to protest whether there’s a pandemic or not. And your reply reads like someone making threadbare, red-herring protestations as cover for a government that is doing exactly that.
We protest for important issues and if we’re silenced... they can do what they want and we’re not allowed to ‘make noise’ about them... this is crazy!!
I know right? This bill is something I would’ve expected to see in Russia or China, not the freaking UK!
Try that in France and you get the revolution. I hope the British people can finally start fighting back this dangerous government.
I never thought I'd say this, but I think I agree with Theresa May! Then Priti Patel is a nasty person, so even May looks angelic next to her.
There wasn't this much furore when the anti-lockdown protests were getting people banged up in police vans and tackled to the street but yes, I'm glad people are finally coming around to the realisation that allowing the government to attack protesters is a bad idea.
@@VictorECaplon exactly but how when protesting is what is needed, but that could now get you 10 years jail time?
Government Ministers quoting 'Manifesto promises' as justification for everything they do is incredibly insidious, because they make the assumption everyone who voted for them supports every vague 'promise', on every line, of every page, like there's any way of separating them out.
In this case the worst part is just that they're defending a whole 20 section bill by the ~2 parts they promised.
@Robert Rohleder "We will champion freedom of
expression and tolerance, both in the UK and overseas."
And they barely got 40% of the vote.
“The police have to suspect you did something wrong” - pretty sure this is the definition discrimination
@Bodhi the police have the right to arrest you on suspicion, you can even get convicted on suspicion, proof has little to do with it
@@roberthayes9842 if your suspected if something to then be convicted proof will have to be supplied and at the end of the day all convictions are based on suspicions unless they were caught red handed as no 1 can 100% be sure that what is said to have happened did happen.
@Bodhi well that shut him up
@General GuiIe like god didn't intend you to have a mobile phone and post on UA-cam
If you think that, then you are illiterate in the English Language.
"The British public voted for this"
The 0.0001% that actually read the manifesto.
People vote for their favourite colour i think, clueless.
We pretty much live in a two party country. One party had this in the manafesto, the other one had racism
as a neurodiverse person, i am terrified by the idea that being "annoying in public" could be an arrestable offense.
The Tory base are ok with imprisoning gypsies and protesters, they haven’t got to the disabled yet... I know of farmers in my local area who have shot at gypsies.
I think it’s more about being annoying for the sake of being disruptive to residents/workers/businesses from what I can gather.
shoot thats me as well even if i attempt to mask. this is all so messed up :/
@@micallef87 Just because that may be the intent doesn’t mean anything means little if it isn’t very specifically and narrowly defined in the law. And even then, police are well known to bend the intent of the law quite often. There’s something very insidious and borederline fascistic about this bill. The fact they specifically mention gypsies and travellers brings First they came... to mind.
@@sparkleshyguy85 as a person of Gypsy heritage, that's the first quote I thought of, too, AND, just like in the poem, most people won't care because 1)they aren't Gypsies and 2)hatred towards us is practically encouraged, look on any social media
Insert ANY other ethnic group and there would be outrage!
It won't stop at us...history is well on it's way to repeating itself
You know its bad when teresa may is spitting fax
She still voted for the bill, twice.
She can talk a talk but wasn't willing to even abstain against the party line.
No principles at all.
You could even say shes a fax machine.
Sounds a bit like V for Vendetta. Just a tad bit.
“There are of course those who do not want us to speak. I suspect even now, orders are being shouted into telephones, and men with guns will soon be on their way. Why? Because while the truncheon may be used in lieu of conversation, words will always retain their power. Words offer the means to meaning, and for those who will listen, the enunciation of truth. And the truth is, there is something terribly wrong with this country, isn't there?”
Well done guys, very deep and meaningful. Round of applause for the political geniuses right here
I thought what I'd do was, I'd pretend I was one of those deaf-mutes.
For real though. In V for Vendetta a pandemic was also used as an excuse to take people's rights away. Admittedly in the story, it was a manufactured virus released by the government for that very purpose and I absolutely do NOT believe in any of the Covid conspiracies along those lines, but the parallels in how the government are using the tragedy are clearly there
@@robertwinslade3104 that's been happing since the start...all over the world. And people were happy about it...they were demanding it, in fact.
who is the man who said "if you can't live by the rules of society then you should live in prison?" I want to know their name so I can see what they are responsible for. That way I'll know how much to panic about what damage their attitudes could do to society....
It should be noted that for all the concern Theresa May showed about this bill, she then went and voted in favour of it.
The fact that the Government only tried to talk about the bits regarding jail sentences for rapists, while pointedly ignoring the rest, is to me very telling. They clearly know that the rest of the bill is extremely controversial and are clearly hoping that by simply not talking about it. The public will be too stupid to see what is happening.
The police thinking gypsys and travellers are “likely” to cause distress sounds like discrimination to me...
That is some serious discrimination! It's oppression and an infringement on human rights.
Very worrying indeed. When a Police force start talking about locking up ethnic groups, you know your country is on a seriously slippery slope.
I am sure bojo will start asking for gas chambers next.
As a person of Gypsy heritage, I can say that is *exactly* what this is
Seems the aim is to push every Gypsy/Traveller into boxes where we can be more easily monitored
Insert ANY other ethnic group into this Bill and there would be understandable uproar, but we have been the last bastion of acceptable racism for some time - look at any social media site, comments denigrating Gypsies get encouraged and thumbed up - make a comment about any other ethnicity and you will be abused and hounded off
Dog gone missing? Blame the Gypsies!
Are there bad elements in our society? Of course! Only a fool or a liar would claim otherwise, and I don't know any Gypsy who would claim this; but that's no different to any other group
Only difference is, it's 'acceptable' to say it about us...
@@erikanders3343 nothing would surprise me at this point, seriously
Brexiteers: The EU is a dictatorship! We must leave!
Meanwhile in the UK:
This was all because of blm, they ruined peotesting in the uk
@@kevinshmuk7237 no one should ruin protesting. Stop blaming and realise everyone has a right to a voice. You are the reason this is happening because you don't understand freedom of speech. Get with the program!
@@peterrabbit3881 joggers ruin everywhere they land, thats just a fact :)
@@Shitposter-yp7dj based
How in the world do they care about women and kids lol 😂 when they all involved in human sex trafficking what a joke
Things are so bad that I'm really starting to miss Theresa May. Make it stop!
Missed her since Boris got elected, he always was a twat, even my Tory parents hate him. Pretending to be so incompetent, he couldn’t be a threat... then that to all the gypsies which will be arrested due to this bill.
But I thought you love your MPs?
I remember thousands demanding parliament be reopoend shouting "stop the coup" in 2019. What's wrong don't you feel the same anymore now your on tje losing side? 😕
@@owen5847 false equivalence
@@Jay_Johnson Giving the police the power to make gypsies move on his hardly the most problematic part of this bill...
And they got the nerve to talk about hong kong freedom.
Exactly lol. They don’t care about democracy they just want their dumbass empire back
@@ziyadML and ironically british imperial rule would be more democratic than ccp
A protest isn't very useful if it isn't disruptive. Then it's just a gathering of people who don't do anything
The situation is far more nuanced than that. Going to court has the same effect as protests for instance.
Disruptive protests are okay only if the protestors agree to cough up thousands, if not millions, of £££ for operations.
This is pretty dystopian. Scary!
This reminds me of the Criminal Justice Act of 1988, when Thatcher was at the height of her powers.
The only government that creates laws like this is a government that is frightened of people.
They should be scared, they will hang for this.
Bun dem Babylon.
They are playing an extremely dangerous game with people's lives.
"If you can't abide by the rules of this country then you need to go somewhere else. Prison", can we send the whole government cabinet and GCHQ for illegally collecting data and then changing the law so they retrospectively are pardoned.
it's outrageous this needs to stop who do the government think they are
Yvonne Rout
''it's outrageous this needs to stop who do the government think they are''
It isn't a question of ''who do the government think they are,'' Yvonne, its a question of who has allowed the government to become what they are. The answer to the aforementioned is of course, the British people.
Better than all of you.
They think they are democratically appointed representatives.
Protesting during a pandemic is disgusting but Labour voters defend paedophiles so that says it all.
@@PM-qi4mh was it not the last PM who "lost" the paedo files? I think its disgusting that millions of people across the planet have been sacrificed under the guise of a greater good.
Publically annoying?! As a teacher, could this included some of my consistently annoying students? What about fans before and after Every football match? This needs even bigger protest and is very worrying that is being pushed through during a time when protesting outdoors due to a pandemic is limited
When the Pen becomes less powerful than the Sword, We will be forced to pick up the Sword !
I can no longer see Priti Patel without vampire fangs.
Underrated comment!!!
😂
Shame no one is protesting against the embarrassment of a Home Secretary Preeti Patel yet.
Yes Preeti Patel is following her
right wing fascist ideology to
create a fascist tyranny
@@pariscommune9742 Yes except that fascism is actually an extreme left wing ideology and is really not so different to communism.
@@daevaskye In terms of rhetoric yes. In terms of actual policies they're very different.
Use this bill as an example. What's it about? Well according to Boris and Pritti it's largely about protecting women from abusers. In reality the only thing indicating that is a slight increase in the minimum portion of their sentence. So they're promoting the bill in a very leftist way but the contents are far right.
This is how facists gain power, they say they're left then do the opposite, like Nazi's saying they'll redistribute wealth and support women then they mostly gas minorities.
@@forshor1998 Communistism and fascisism are both totalitarian so the end result is the same.
@@daevaskye I mean sure great so can we agree that the government should not be doing this?
Priti Patel inevitably called Hong Kong protesters “pro-democracy activists”, even as many were acting more like rioters and arsonists. They were, for a long time during 2019, demonstrating specifically against an extradition bill proposed by the Hong Kong government. In a similar way, protesters in Bristol were fighting against the draconian Police, Crime, Sentencing and Courts Bill, which aims to considerably expand the powers of police and prosecutors, not unlike Hong Kong’s national security law. Yet, Patel tweeted that "thuggery and disorder by a minority will never be tolerated" in Bristol. As they say, when the shoe is on the other foot.
teresa may displaying more humanity in one clip than for the entirety of her premiership 😂
Only Russia has premiers, not England.......who do you work for spy?
plenty of nations have premiers, it is another word for prime minister, and premiership in place of 'prime ministerial term', or whatever. just a nicer way of writing it.
@@fyshfysh Many do, but England is not one of them.
The leader is the prime minister not the premier.
Again....who do you work for spy!?
Where is the rebel base!?
Who took the cheese from my sandwich in the lunch room!?
@@fyshfysh Yeah just another way of saying it, you're right. Sometimes Mario Draghi is called the "Premier". Just "Premiership" sounds confusing as I'll end up mixing it up with the Premier League
god you must be gullible, all politicians can act.
If I had been told that there would be a time when I would be feeling nostalgic about the May Government I would have never have believed it.
I say once lock-down is over we need a massive demonstration outside parliament to take these new anti-protest laws out for a spin...
Sounds like a good excuse for them to not end the lockdown tbh...
lol
That won’t help all the gypsies they lock up in the mean time. The Tory base of farmers already shoots at them.
@@Jay_Johnson
Can we lobby for more accurate farmers?
@@Bushflare you are a terrible person with no empathy
As always with government, they never let a good tradedy go to waste.
Any body else get the taste of bile when Sarah Everard's death was being used to justify this?
100%
Government policy 101, never let a good tragedy go to waste.
@@philpem yeah and it disgusts me
@@philpem it shows you how sick these people are.
Let's reward the police with more power!
Funny how these same people were discussing about freedom to protest in India, where the govt even gave a specific time and path to protest in middle of the city
Funny is how indians and brits think china is oppressive then have laws like this and violence against muslims(like that one kid that tried to drink water)
@@Meteorknite China is oppressive , they spend the most on internal security starting from censorship in Internet , to local police
@@Fire-ci4se you just defined alot of countries with that explanation
If you didnt say china I would have asked to be more specific
Like I wonder if I heard censorship on fb youtube now have I
I must say it's a change of pace to have a home secretary so openly be a cartoon villain
All politicians are open villains.
"Building more prisons "!! WHY not start with schools and homes for the homeless!!
And illegal migrants
Thats just appeasement. Don't lower the standards of the law just because more people are breaking them. Western US states have many Marxist indoctrination schools and homeless are everywhere despite many places for them to sleep and eat.
@@dambigfoot6844 something is very wrong! Many homeless people are not there for their making and a majority of people in prisons are of minor offences! The priorities is to find a solution and building more prisons isn't, It's not about lowering the status of the LAW either, but confronting issues of poverty and injustices!.
@@salehothman449 You might be right but instead of more prisons create more insane asylum's and rehabs. Most homeless are homeless because they are either mentally ill or are on drugs.
@@dambigfoot6844 fact unfortunately, mental illness issues and substance misuse MOST of the times comes from events that happened in individuals life's caused by pain and losses! Majority of them could have been harnessed back if sufficient facilities/ support were in place.
"People should not be afraid of their governments, governments should be afraid of their people."
@Bodhi The people are though
@Bodhi Because the government now has powers that when a government you don't like gets in, and does things you don't like, you will not be able to protest, you won't be able to chant, make any noise, or do anything at all that the home secretary of the day deems "annoying". Everyone on both sides of the political spectrum should find this terrifying.
@Bodhi Yes, of course we will have the same party in power forever...what could possible go wrong with that.
@Bodhi
@Bodhi I know you don't care, that's why I pointed at you saying you are a disgusting human, I'm pointing it out to the People that actually do care.
I've got mad respect for May for actually pointing out the bullshit in that bill
May was a joke the only reason the conservatives beat labour was because they were led by Corbyn.
@@johnforbes8282 and a lot of the media was against Corbyn.
Making it a crime to be annoying, to save time just put me in prison now
I heard that and I could think of a couple people I know that will go to jail for that
No doubt siblings everywhere are now living in fear.
Remember the poll tax protests, half the bleeding country would now be in jail, under this law, and would have poll tax
@@rogerbrown5763 Hyperbole.
@@rogerbrown5763 Problem is, people don't remember the Poll tax and they don't even know about the bedroom tax which is hitting the poor.
Well, this bill needs to be put through some serious judicial review fairly urgently (especially the bits that allow the Home Secretary of the day to rule on what protests are affected without any oversight)
I was thinking this as soon as I saw it, half the fucking clauses are illegal under current UK law, and they're all against human rights. Parliament passing it doesn't make it legal. This will end up in court if they don't scrap the stupid thing.
Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.
John F. Kennedy
“An unjust law is itself a species of violence. Arrest for its breach is more so. Now the law of nonviolence says that violence should be resisted not by counter-violence but by nonviolence. This I do by breaking the law and by peacefully submitting to arrest and imprisonment.”
― Mahatma Gandhi, Non-violence in Peace and War 1942-49
Boris has been watching Putin arresting anyone who protests against him, and he thought “I can do that too!”.
We need to remove MPs like Priti Patel. She doesn’t understand the democratic system in the UK. We need to remove MPs from the political system and go to electronic voting.
They have been rather sneaky passing this bill, I wouldn’t have known about it had it not been for this video, Thankyou
Hah, don't plead ignorance in defence when you're before the magistrate.
As someone who cannot stand BLM, Extinction Rebellion, and almost every protest that's hit the streets the past few years, I abhor this bill.
Up to 10 Years for causing "serious annoyance" to the public. Holy shit that's the worst thing I've read in a long time. I have a god-given right to be a serious annoyance.
When Tyranny becomes law, resistance becomes duty.
Guess you'll have to stand with BLM and XR now..
@@toyotaprius79 lol no. The enemy of my enemy is not my friend. They're just another enemy.
@Stevean2 I'll never stand with them because they'll never stand with me.
This is what the EU was protecting you from. :) More to come.
so true
they lied to leave and now they will silence those who did not vote for them
If we needed the EU to protect us from ourselves then we didn't need the EU and we deserve this garbage.
Our mess, our responsibility.
@@Bushflare speak for yourself, bet you're not worried since you think it won't affect you.
@@Cibershadow2
Given that I've been at protests in the past where the cops got their billy clubs out I gotta say that's a hard miss on your part.
Just because I want to live in a state that takes responsibility for it's own decisions doesn't mean I'm not taking active part in holding it responsible.
*Article 13 enters the chat*
There seems to a world wide lean toward authority based governance. People of the world unite and rise up!
It's ridiculous that the UK government is condemning China for its treatment of Hong Kong (for example, citizens protesting), while the UK government is actually doing the same thing!
Well, Westminister has no permanent allies or enemies, just interests.
No it's NOT. HK Gov was not democraticly elected!
Never thought I'd say this, but "Go Theresa!!"
She didn't vote against it though did she
I’m not from the uk but parliament mentioning Sarah Everard in defence of their bill makes me fucking furious
Mind your own business then
@@robertchapman1883 "Mind your own business then" Famous last words before they censor your internet forever.
That Theresa May was my favourite person in all this is really concerning.
I’m sitting here in Hong Kong with my mouth open. For the last two years, the UK has thrown crud this way claiming freedom of speech and protest is curtailed. None of the laws here are as draconian as these. The UK’s hypocrisy is breathtaking.
You’re in Hong Kong?
@@anthonyianello169 Yes
Welcome to the UKCP 👍 it’s just been said there will be undercover police in bars and clubs to protect women???? State sponsored spies. S.S.S sounds familiar right?
@@jlen1185 - that would never work.