The Right to Protest & Offend!
Вставка
- Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
- Sporting a lockdown mullet, Pie takes issue with our right to offend being curtailed as well as our right to protest.
For tickets to see Jonathan Pie: FAKE NEWS LIVE 2021 go to www.jonathanpi...
Reminds me of the tyrion quote 'when you tear out a man's tongue you're not proving him a liar, you're just telling the world you fear what he might say' sad times
Yes
Yes! I'm watching the series all over again. Love it.
"People should not be afraid of their government. Governments should be afraid of the people."
Those times are here.
Why do you think they are worried?
but the people are weak and stupid!! decades of overeating fat and sugar , underfunding of the healthcare system , brain numbing TV entertainment , massively underfunded education systems , the indoctrination of students into a "victim" mentality , the decimation of age old tried and tested ideologies like respect dignity discipline honour and courage , the constant 24hour bombardment of negative mainstream news , the feminisation of society , the removal of wild open spaces for children and the addiction to screens................... the government are not afraid one little bit , they are the ones bringing in these power grabbing policies knowing full well the populace are scared and afraid , there`s no fight left in us!! all of our young men are too busy trimming their manbuns and having a fkn manicure!
@@waynus2021 I fully agree with the point on negative sensationalism point and the unhealthy eating viewpoint. The healthcare system in this country has been royally fucked for far too long and when I went to school there was one gluestick per class.
However.
What's wrong with a more effeminate society? Don't you think mental health issues and male suicide rates would decrease if they where just aloud to trim their man buns or have manicures without judgment. The Spartans, some of the most heralded 'masculine' archetypes, used to fully clean themselves before every battle.
Also by relating the problem to feminine ideals it makes it sound like you think women's ideas are detrimental to society, which probably isn't your intention but maybe it's something to think about.
It's not like I'm some soyboy man bun hipster either I've worked as a laborer for years and have never had a manicure in my life. I just don't think that's really anyone else's problem.
@@waynus2021 they are watching us closely. The birds over the river are flying high this year.
Well...its the other way around
How long till an innocent person asserting their innocence is deemed a protest ? And remaining silent will be deemed an admission of guilt ?
I can see it now. Pleading not guilty in court gets you an additional charge of contempt, and your lawyer will be fined £50 for wasting the court's time.
Slippery slope arguments are usually nonsense. This one is a good example.
And no, I am not agreeing with this law, or the authoritarian government that is pushing for it. But the voters did put them in power, knowing full well what an incompetent and autocratic lot they were.
@@lacdirk apparently the received wisdom was they had no choice
@@StoutProper The voters? I would readily agree that FPTP isn't democratic in that it doesn't lead to representative government.
But I don't see protests against FPTP either. If populations accept god-awful governments over and over again, without protest, do they deserve better? It's not like the government has been beating up protesters, killing activists and shutting down anti-government press.
@@lacdirk What do you see as the best way to protest against FPTP in this day and age? Who do we appeal to who has any sort of power? Actively detrimental to the Tories and SNP, not significantly beneficial to Labour, and if implemented would almost certainly have resulted in minority government (if a general election had been called at all) in 2019 which would have hamstrung Brexit regardless of which side of the fence you're on.
“If you give up your freedom for safety, you don’t deserve either one.” Benjamin Franklin
The last year has proven this more than anything
You give up your freedom for safety every time youre told to fasten your seatbelt on a plane
@@alexjaybrady I don’t wear seatbelts and I drive everywhere I don’t fly
@Morphing Jar - You’re right, everyone quotes it without knowing what it was referring to, but separate from that it makes a good point. Life and freedom are inherently dangerous, and the logical conclusion to putting your security ahead of your liberty is to remain inside your home and have it turned into a fortress. So it may have originally been about taxes to fund wartime defences, but it makes a very pertinent point about different issues today. Maybe it should be used without mentioning Franklin’s name, because everyone gets the quote wrong anyway.
@Morphing Jar shut up
I absolutely love the Tories on social media desperately trying to play down this bill. Like they never fucking knew what Priti Patel believed & was capable of.
Priti is just the stupid messenger, like Hancock. It's the entire Tory party's idea. They want to be like the Republicans in the USA.
Labour have spent all year screaming for harder lockdown there no better
@@truthwillprevail5241 screaming? Umm... bit of a childish analysis of the whole situation don’t you think especially when the fat scruffy idiot you voted for didn’t attend COBRA meetings, told you to take it on the chin & is responsible for the deaths of over 126,000 deaths. The worst death rate in the world.
The problem here isn’t lockdown. It’s how your government has handled it. They’re failures & beyond incompetent. And you voted got them. What does that make you?
the irony in this comment is through the roof ..did you watch the video at all?
@@truthwillprevail5241 do you think that may be because we have some of the worsted death rates, and the government was fucking things up?
In Kentucky, they are trying to introduce a bill that will arrest you if you insult a police officer. Not threaten or maim, mind you. But you would be arrested if you say rude things to an officer and hurt their fee fees.
It's always one of the first steps to take in totalitarian regime.
I think it passed and is waiting for the governor to sign it.
@@TheSuzberry are you shitting me? Yikes! I'm so glad I don't live in KY, but it's terrifying.
Just commented about the same thing - always nice to see someone else on the same wavelength.
Meanwhile, over here in Germany it's technically illegal to insult anyone, period. If you insult someone, you can get up to a year in prison. Guess the one group of people who actually try and use that law...
“If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.”
― George Orwell
I don't want to hear that.
It doesn't mean blocking roads, gluing yourself to the floor, spraying "fake blood" from an old fire engine up the Foreign Office, or standing on top of a tube train does it? No, the Lefties have bitten off more than they can chew and now they need a good kicking.
Brilliant.
@@jimiwills You guess wrong. Hatred is an entirely normal and necessary emotion. We need to pick a side and stop trying to placate the enemy, they're an enemy for a reason. Disruption may be "necessary" if you think it will achieve your ends, but if you don't care or agree with those people trying to "achieve" something, then you must not tolerate them. You have to stop them in their tracks, and discard them. Which is what this legislation intends, and I fully support it for that reason.
@@jimiwills You're welcome. I don't particularly hate you, but your worldview disgusts me. It will be interesting to see how the Western World progresses, people like you seem to think your ideas will bring about a "better" World, so far it has only led to ruin. There's a reason why so many are turning away from it, and powers like Saudi, Russia, China aren't interested. You have no powers of introspection, when it doesn't work it wasn't "real", and all the repercussions are somebody else's fault. Europe isn't bad, we just need MORE Europe. Humanity isn't a dumb, ill-thought out concept, we need MORE humanity. Good luck with what that gets you.
Does anyone remember when maturity was a personal goal? Does anyone remember when emotional fortitude was a personal goal? Does anyone remember when fairness was a social goal?
@Jo Sm It's not simply a matter of not wanting to be bullied by the emotionally fragile (I agree) --- it's emotionally unhealthy for *them*.
@Jo Sm I think of it as the victimhood-card-carrying mob. By "emotionally unhealthy for them", I meant that encouraging individuals to dwell on real and imagined (recently, often imagined) slights is counterproductive for their (individual) emotional health. Attacking false targets solves none of their actual problems and leaves them individually impotent. Society as a whole needs to move its collective "sail" out of their whining wind.
"You find me offensive
I find you offensive
For finding me offensive"
- Eminem - "Rain Man"
"If you can't disrupt things, things stay the same." Nice one.
Panta rei, I believe, regardless of others.
If you can disrupt something stupid, you aught to.
People in the 1960s: I wish I could go into the future and see what it’s like.
People in 2021: I wish I could go back to the 60s.
🤣 sad but true
I'm not sure the 60s are a good target to strive towards...
Pretty sure it’s only white men who were treated well in the 60s, so for them sure, everyone else, not so much.
@@lamas93866 2010 would be better than this.
@@tammyjanjan2892 oh give it a rest. Can we not just be united against today's attempts at oppression please.
"(They) promised you order, (they) promised you peace, and all (they) demanded in return was your silent, obedient consent." V was telling us what was coming down the line.
George Orwell first. There are Satanists in power and we can't remain in denial without consequences
@@skyejacques
God is in the rain
great movie.
@Concrete Head
They might as well be called satanists, or has the Epstein saga already been forgotten? What about all those wars, millions dead, for what? So they can milk more money out of the defense budget. What about the GFC housing fraud - millions impoverished, made homeless, and more money gone - without any consequences.
Add to that the refusal to implement taxpayer funded healthcare, in preference to allowing people to die if they can't pay a middleman insurer (who might not pay out anyway), and the corruption of the legacy media by by intelligence agencies that gladly trade people freedoms for additional power.
When I think of a definition of 'Santanist', these characteristics do align. After all that, actual belief in Satan seems immaterial - it's the actions that matter.
'The past was erased, erasure was forgotten and the lie became the truth'. Orwell
The film “Demolition man” featuring Sly Stallone and Wesley Snipes predicted future society...
Yep. That's pretty much Facebook and its ridiculous community double standards at the moment. Just use the 'forbidden' words that get picked up in their stupid algorithms and you're off to Facebook jail for 'bullying and harassment', 'hate speech' or 'inciting murder'.
Demolition Man is a leftist's wet dream.
I literally just watched this two days ago.
@@noahholland6804 literally watched it? Is that different to just watched it?
@@Just_lift_anyone - with subtitles perhaps
Why does it feel like the UK is ending up in the same dystopian future as V for Vendetta?
But can we cut straight to the last scene and cut all the rest of this bs
Don't you want the safety they promised you? Lol
Because life imitates art
Sum wise knob once said
Cos Alan Moore is a genius.
Feel like?
"Do I have the right to express opinions that other people or the government do not like, without fear of arrest or losing my job, the human rights act says I do, the policing bill says I don't" - Pie
Offense cannot be given, it can only be taken.
Garbage
Some people wilfully aim to offend, ergo, it can be given.
You can say anything you want to me, they are only a string of words. It is up to me whether I choose to be offended or not. Who defines that line? Something said to me I may laugh at, the same thing said to someone else may offend them to their core. Offense cannot be given, only taken.
@@nhykoro Unfortunately, due to the nature of this site, we can't test your claim, therefore you also can't back it up by having people say seriously objectionable things to you and seeing your response.
@@nhykoro You are describing HOW you may respond to an offence, so patiently offence CAN be GIVEN. Lets be honest here people can and do give offence. How it should be delt with is a different matter. But to act as if it does not exist is a LIE.
"Children are to be seen not heard" "Shut up and go to your room" has morphed into "Silence, and go home or else...!"
I solved the cancel culture problem by watching my Carry On movies boxset and Blazing Saddles repeatedly
But don't you see it raises the problem of sex?
As well as reading huckleberry Finn
I'm thinking History of the World pt 1
Why is the right to be offended so readily available? I'm never offended by anything, but now I feel like I'm missing out. Can I exchange my right to be offended for some coupons?
Increasingly far right (offshore owned) media and 'commentators', who get payed to use a few tweets as 'national outcry' and a government who look at dystopian novels of the past as a blueprint and use the media and NLP confusion patterns as a tool of oppression.
@@alfsmith4936 While the far left will say anything is -ist/-phobic. And I’m saying this as a left leaning person. But perhaps like the OP has stated, maybe I should try to get offended more often. Because clearly being offended gives you the power to control other’s speech.
@@Laura-Yu Yes.. I was brought up in what would be considered a far right household, in pubs and I wouldn't have learned my lessons without being told I was racist/sexist/homophobic, etc, when I was being racist/sexist/homophobic etc..
The far left and far right of today seem to be a confused bunch, who argue amongst themselves and ultimately say they are fighting for the same thing, while they can't bring themselves to admit it and everyone in the middle see's the entertainment value, until it affects them, like Brexit and the threat of 10 years prison for standing on a street corner complaining if your business goes under, or you have to work longer hours for less money. :/
@@Laura-Yu The most fun part about being left-leaning but not part of the woke brigade: Being called a right-wing nazi. Probably because you didn't think Dave over there is racist just because he has white skin. XD
@scott111193 I don't know about coupons but can I interest you in this here white privilege card?
As someone who would be considered left leaning, cancel culture has gone too far. People jump the gun on people and don’t understand people can change and grow. It’s like people trying to cancel others for an offensive tweet from 10 years ago is just straight up absurdity. People have become so sensitive these days they over look the actual things they should be up and arms about
Agreed. The problem with how far it's gone it's also embolden bigots. By silencing everyone we've given bigots space to comment, when otherwise they'd have been ignored.
Yeah wholeheartedly agree. I’m an asexual and I’ve seen first hand the absurdity in some corners of that community. A one off comment a character made in Brooklyn 99 by a fictional character writen by someone who doesn’t know what the word means sent the community into a cancel frenzy. It’s utter insanity
Same here. I've been a leftie since I was a teenager and still am. Sadly though since the unions were demonised and lost their influence, left wing politics moved from the workplace to the internet. Now they're less interested in wealth inequality and the rights of working people and more interested in gender identity. Or at least that's impression they give and that counts when it comes to getting people to vote.
We can get sacked, cancelled or arrested for expressing our views. Yet we have government who have constantly broken rules and the law and not held accountable. There is something very wrong with our society...
It's called privilege. A commoner cannot legally accuse an aristocrat of wrongdoing in Britain.
Same everywhere around the world I'm afraid.
Great Britain and Russian empire from 13 century practice slavery till this day.
"If we are judged and convicted because of our words, then we become criminals because of the opinions we express. If this is how it is going to be, then the law stops being law and becomes a tool of tyranny."
So catholics in northern Ireland protested and expressed their concerns and they where shot dead arrested and sent to prison without trial sexualy abused kids shot with rubber bullets etc etc and that was all jolly ol england so not suprised when they do anything anymore
The "consequences of your actions" justification is the new way you can impose a dicatorship of the mind
You wish.
Actions _do_ have consequences, as Louis XVI could attest to.
@@davidwuhrer6704 I don't wish. It's a fact. The permaoffended will use *that* justification to anything they're offended by and that they manage to cancel, without regard for whom THEY offend whilst at it. And then they get offended when it's thrown back at them. Taking your very own Louis XVI example. The ones that guillotined him were themselves guillotined by others of their Committee of Public Safety, or whatever it was called. Quite glorious.
Why does this guy have the incredible ability to sum up how I feel every time
"Who needs the law, when you have Twitter?"
black mirror is getting more and more like real life
Brilliant, as ever, on all counts. Blessed be thy art, Sir!
naughty thoughts, opinions and protesting is illegal....what a time we are in
I'll support a protest against the misuse of the apostrophe.
I'll also support a protest against Piers Morgan.
(I've never forgiven America for sending him back to the U.K..)
"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." (Evelyn Beatrice Hall, after Voltaire.)
Unless your franchise is secured by force of arms, than you are a subject, not a citizen.
And that was the day Pie joined the 'far right'.
You wouldn't know what far right is if it came and smacked your sorry arse in the face 😂
Good old Jonathan, always says as it is !!!!!!!!
This was a bad day to start reading 1984 😅
1984 was a warning not a blueprint!!
@@garymcmanus9946 historical dictatorships eg medieval Britain and the late Roman Empire had more freedom of speech
Mostly because nobody could hear and nobody cares enough to change things
The day you finish it will be a bad day too, get back to me on that
Or a good day
@@matthewevans5486 spoiler alert, it was a bad day for me, it destroyed me 2+2=5
Do we have the Right to express our own opinions?
No! We Don't! Not anymore.
Smh.
"Opinions have caused more ills than the plague or earthquakes on this little globe of ours" ~Voltaire
Well I agree with everything up to the point on Piers...surely being a public platform it’s not responsible to say someone is lying about being suicidal...??
Imagine if she said someone sexually assaulted her and he publicly said he doesn’t believe her on publicly TV
Somebody give this guy a spliff please.
It's frustrating that we have to rely on comedians and satirists to tell the truth without kissing anyone's ass. But maybe that's the way it needs to be -- maybe if professional reporters could insert their opinions into factual articles to this extent then nobody would ever know what was really going on ever again.
Can we just cancel social media, and start it from scratch with what we know now? But no Zuckerberg or Jack
A better plan would be to stop after getting rid of it and NOT bring it back. The idea that the individuals currently in charge of these organisations are the problem seems ludicrous to me. In my mind, social media is proof of one of two things:
1. Human beings are constitutionally incapable of dealing with instant mass communication
2. Turning it into opt-in psychological warfare by integrating attention-optimising AI algorithms is a very bad idea.
@@musicalfringe you’re right, the World Wide Web was a success, so was cryptocurrency. We cannot have humans in charge.
I'm offended by everyone quoting George Orwell every time there is a new law.
The hilarious thing about the Morg*n debacle was HE cancelled himself because he didn’t like what someone said about him!! The irony is gorgeous!!
I believe they wanted him to apologize, and he basically told them to sod off. He said he wasn't gonna retract what he said because he believes what he said.
@@Daniel_C_Griffin
Yeah, because Piers Morgan is still fucking butthurt years after Megan Markle ghosted him after a single blind date.
I have a certain set of values and beliefs, and I’ve learnt to accept that other people won’t share them, to a greater or lesser degree. They have just as much right to their convictions as I have to mine, no matter how unpleasant or illogical I might find them.
How depressing is this.🇬🇧
this is practically poetry. I'm not a massive fan of Jonathan Pie (hope I can express that opinion without being cancelled!). But this is brilliant. And the laws being pushed through parliament that are anti-free speech are worrying and dangerous.
I find him more amusing when he's ranting and dissecting broad subjects, such as censorship, free speech, or some news related incident. When he just goes on about the Conservatives, it's a bit boring after a while.
@@onastick2411yes, exposing the corruption, greed, incompetence and evil of the conservatives is so boring.😒
@@digbycrankshaft7572 "evil", lol,zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
"Whatever happened to good old-fashioned gay-bashing?". Cracked me up.
I'm offended at all the people who get offended too easily and who eavesdrops on others to get them in trouble.
In 1965 the exam-passing classes promised me a flying car, electricity too cheap to meter and a 20 hour work week.
Now I've got a car that doesn't fly, in which by law I can't go anywhere anyway, electricity which has increased in price ten-fold because an autistic teenager tells me the world is on fire or some such bollocks and a zero hours contract delivering overpriced food 60 hours a week. And now to add insult to injury, new laws that say I can't even moan about it? If that's called being on the right side of history, you can shove it.
as we have seen over the last yr, we have no rights, only temp privileges, rights are not rights if they can be easily taken away.
When you take away discipline at the right age and let temper tantrums continue into adulthood and right into the media. Orwell on LSD couldn't have scripted this shit. Strap in.
He did a pretty good job without it imo
Sadly freedom of protest is restricted throughout the world.
Adam Curtis probably saved this video for use in a future documentary
What if Humpty Dumpty fell faster than the speed of light?
Wonderfully insightful. Pie doesn't need to deliver jokes, sometimes the irony is rather 'grittier'. 'Rights' are complex, and a 'two party' political system is rather poor at debating them. 'Rights' are not 'binary' or 'yes/no', but rather the outcome of dialogue across many different views. Pie does an excellent job here of highlighting the idiocy of taking either extreme perspective - brilliant!
What if I find Scottish nationalism offensive on the ground that is 9/10 Anglophobic; are the SNP going to arrest themselves?
The evolutionary history of this planet shows a slow but steady increase in awareness and sensitivity, this increase appears to be accelerating exponentially which we're currently experiencing as a culture war between this empathic force and the reaction against it. Perhaps there is more to 'wokeness' than meets the eye.
The right to offend is usually the right to misrepresent the truth to push your own interests. The working class don't have the means to defend themselves through the courts.
Telling people they need to change will usually cause them offense. Telling people they are wrong and showing them facts to back it up will often offend people. So should we say nothing? Let them continue in their ignorance? If no person is allowed to offend us, how will we ever see those unpleasant things that we can't see for ourselves? Imagine trying to be in a relationship with someone who demands that you never cause offense. How could you ever have an honest conversation?
Causing offense is not a problem to be avoided at all costs. Sometimes it is necessary. If one causes offense when speaking openly, honestly and without malice, that offense should be examined closely.
You should have the right to protest and say whatever you want, because that's the right you should have. But just because you should be able to say anything you'd like, doesn't mean you actually should say it. There should be the right to freedom to say whatever you want, but also the self-control of an individual to know not everything should be said just because of it.
Thank you
Horseshoe Theory !? Tragedy and Hope by Professor Carroll Quigley. Condensed version by Joe Plummer, Tragedy & Hope 101.
in what mindset is it allowed to speak in public any opinion without giving your job-owner the possibilty to fire you from HIS job for your opinion.
Nothing like making an argument out of context.
Man's come back when we needed him the most
Today is Monday 22/3/21. Last night in Bristol the shit well and truly hit the fan and the government realised they've got their hands full🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Laws are meant to be based on facts, not opinions that are subjective and often won't be able to be proved beyond a reasonable doubt.
" tin men, lead by little girls, down golden roads that lead to nowhere"
Right to protest is a bit of a subjective thing, in nordic countries all protests are illegal if they dont announce where and when they're going to take place to the police. Any events (including protests) that have more than 100 people are required to have their own bouncers or guards that co-operate with police to keep things calm. The police invade the busses and cars of known previous agitators and confiscate anything that can be used as a weapon or a tool to break things.
The emphasis is not on preventing the protest from happening but making sure its non-violent. And from there you can have the endless debates about whether its de-teething the protest and making the protesters sheep or not.
protests that are not disruptive are useless.
He is right.
Idk if you'll see this but you should add references in the description when you make a point/ say a stat. It'll make everything you say seem even more genuine than it already is.
Could we use it to our advantage? I am offended by the entire UK parliament, send them all to prison!
Spot on.
Yer except the court is run by a judge that’s paid by the people you wana convict.the only way if the French way of with there heads
Me too, I am offended by that bill!
@@djnormalnorman6590 France knew what had to be done with the clergy , the monarchy and dictators from all sides
Same.
Calling protesters a bit noisy to silence them is the most British form of free-speech suppression I could have imagined.
The British tyrannical state will not come from an actual tyrannical individual assuming power, it will come because the British people didn't want to cause a fuss.
@@sin21ful Id say its about time to start causing a fuss as England as I remember it seems to be no more.
😂
@@sin21ful Is that a ZP quote ? Haha
If some people were holding a protest on your street at 2am and deliberately making a load of noise and you've got work at 8am wouldn't you want them arrested?
This one wasn’t even that funny, it was just sad, our country’s bloody insane.
What's new?
It's not just your country.
Once we Americans were a part of Britain. Now Britain follows America. Not in the good way though.
Practical the whole world is ******, the only place what I can think of where nothing goes wrong practically is Scandinavia and Canada
@@onurb8552 Canada where you can get arrested for dead naming trans people. Canada where you can get arrested for not recognizing the 473 twitter genders. Canada where you can wait 15 months for the results of a pregnancy test. That Canada?
People in the 1960s: I can’t wait to have a flying car in the future
People in 2021: having an opinion is a prison sentence
2020s=1984
To be fair, that was equally true in the 1960s.
It is only the 'woke' that has pushed it this far with their whinging about being offended constantly.
@@SarcasticDave101 No group cries about being offended more than conservatives.
@@TheMeta6 _"2020s=1984"_ Well, at least time travel was proven, so to speak.
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."
JFK
Not heard that before, good soundbite.
Probably done on purpose
The sad thing is it will only fuel further freedom to be taken away
Best comment ever.
"The Witchfinder Generals never went away. They just got themselves are decent broadband connection". - Classic.
Now people worry about freedom of speech. What about “hate” speech ie saying something that other people find offensive. The curb on freedom of speech has been going on for years.
@@designanddirection Yeah. Those in power have always wanted more power for themselves and less for everyone else.
'The Witch Finder General' is not a pleasant film but worth a view.
"When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."
Perfect name .
Who said that? Sounds like an Orwell quote?
Did you just think of that? Or did you know that before and you were keeping it a secret?
@@connorspirasee6426 "Always eat yellow snow if you vote Tory"
@@connorspirasee6426 "Snow yella, tory fella? Chow down!"
My own mother who is 82 said to me yesterday this world is going down hill and she is glad she wont be around to see it - how sad is that!
Sad but true
Lee I've noticed, after reading comments on news sites, that many older folks seem to be hoping to die before long. They can't bear what they are seeing.
I agree with her,
God bless her.
I'm not far behind her in age and I'd go along with what she said
Roger Wilco - justice and really clean floors
Here in the uk, it’s kind of a non starter, we have been disarmed so we don’t hurt each other.
The army are trained, so that’s not an issue for them, in the event of a civil war where the “masses” are armed to any degree I’m fairly certain that the army will do a great deal more harm to the citizens than the citizens would do to each other and who would they be protecting?
"If you want a vision of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever."
George Orwell.
Or a knee on the neck.
@@oakstrong1 yes the police slipped up they didn't arrest the people filming. Don't think they will make that mistake next time .
Trust me if your filming the cops doing bad shit you will be a target
I thought is was fascism
@@alanjackson4028 The police aren't the problem. It's the Government.
That is no different from humanity's past, though. Things have actually gotten a lot better overall.
It's sadly not a joke anymore, this is the state control we are sleepwalking into.
According to the govt, the people voted for this because it was in their manifesto. Except, the only thing in their manifesto relating to this was some vague promise to further law and order.
Absolutely.
Y'all've already walked
Don’t think it is just the state. It’s the people. People are now policing each other’s every word to make sure it is completely politically correct. And it’s worse than just that, it’s interpretation. Completely innocent sentences are now being deconstructed and examined word for word trying to find every possible angle it could be interpreted as offensive. Your attention is in the wrong place. Unless your views agree with those around you, you are not allowed to voice those views. That is what real oppression is. What made nations like ours so great, was the freedom to voice our opinion. Now we are turning into closed minded countries like China where there is a right and wrong answer. The state isn’t enforcing this, the people are. I’m pro diversity, lgbtq and standing up for women’s rights, but am still feeling very limited as to what is ‘allowed’ to be said.
Something the East Germans thought they'd finally escaped from in 1989/90 onwards.
0:52 No need to imagine, I am from Russia, its not fun
Yeah... I know a couple of Russians they all say this kinds of things. Yet supposedly all of Russia loves Putin. x_x Really I wish you and your compatriots the best of luck in regaining your freedom..
Massive love and respect for Russians, so I also wish your nation and it's people the best.
yep, greetings from Iran.
I actually can't blame Russians for loving Putin because the attitude & propaganda from the West.
I'm no Putin fan but I'd rather see him remain in charge of Russia than the West get their own way & have their puppet in place who sells out the proud Russian people & their culture to globalist cunts!
@@pessi6185 Haha, there are more possibilities than an autocrat or a globalist.
> Imagine a government so afraid of its people, it takes away their freedom to protest
*cries in Russian*
*cries in Soviet Union*
Тоже поплакал.
Cries in chinese
I'd rather live in Russia than England.
@@rogerking2888 yeah you have no idea what are you talking about. Russian law concerning offending religious beliefs, for example can actually land you a prison sentence up to 3 years. It can be a joke on stand up or social media post.
"Imagine a government so afraid of it's people it takes away their freedom to protest".
The Tories aren't afraid of the people, the people voted them in, the Tories are seeing how far they can go and still get voted in in future elections. They see the rhetorical question "How bad can you be?" as a challenge.
HELP MY!!! My muscles are too big! I am a big tall man and my muscles are even BIGGER! I use them to get views but they HURT so much!!! Because they are heavy. Do you have any advice, dear 2in
With the woke brigade as their only opposition it's a guatentee they'll get in again.
Who the fuck in their right mind would vote Labour these days, nothing but identity politics
@@Th3_Gael this is exactly it. I’ve not supported the torys for years. But I’d rather deal with incessant nonsense,
Lies and bullshit from tories than this invasive legal framework on how to feel which is creeping in. I HATE Tory, but I wouldn’t vote labour at the moment.
@@gapa1982 same, except I'm Scottish so I've the Scottish nazi party to put up with too
@@gapa1982 "Invasive legal framework"? What? Like making protesting illegal? Btw, the Tories have been in charge for 10 years now, if you're unhappy with any of the "invasive legal framework" introduced in that time then you know who's responsible ;)
"Clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right..."
Here I am ❤️
But Austria Hungary’s my mate
I’m close to the middle according to quantum mechanics.
Are you perhaps feeling stuck in the middle
I just wanna grill bro
“Do I have the right to express opinions that the Government or other people might not like without fear of arrest or losing my job? The Human Rights Act says I DO. This Policing Bill and the Scottish Hate Crime Bill says I DON’T.”
Human rights act is much like the genieve convention everyone is meant to apply it but its entirely up to the nation in question to enforce it. Given both we the UK and the US were both accused of allowing torture which is against both the human rights act and the genieve convention both of which were ignored quess the new law is the law.
Boris is going to rip up the human rights act and the workers rights legislation, both were things he labelled as EU control and red tape holding us back I'm afraid and the sleep walkers clapped him for that and voted for his fucking brexit, this is Germany 1933 all over again.
@@RK-zf1jm Geneva convention, but I take your point :)
Without fear of arrest? Sure.
Without losing your job? Nope.
They don't care, the U.N. have been reporting our abuse of disabled people's human rights for years
The silver lining is that I'm deeply offended by Priti Patel so I can have her arrested now
Please don't
You know the score
She does the crime
We pay the fine.
Shes "brown" so theyll proabably do you instead, damn racist lol
No! Because she can create a new law to trump (small T) your law - oh and throw you in jail for looking at a policeman in the wrong way.
@@liamgeorgie2024
Ah but if the person complaining is a person of colour, they can’t use the racist excuse.
LOL
too bad that there isnt a larger organization that could do something about that. something like a union of nations. oh well...
You mean some kind of organization that can do absolutely nothing against the will of, say, one its five founder nations?
@@leahsander5490 I think he was talking about the EU
@@alexquin4001 clearly his reply went over your head
@@alexquin4001 Oh, yeah, that makes sense as well. However, it's not like the EU is doing a ton to reign in other nations.
"The UN is the socially accepted platform of public hatred" Nelson Mandela
I may live in America, but Boris Johnson's existence offends me. Who do I call to get him arrested?
Just get trump to challenge johnson to an etonian boxing match, that's the only way.
Your mother
The Queen
Heath Winland, wish I knew, I’d be calling them myself!
Oh... the pathetic offended.
He’s bloody brilliant this guy. Aside from making a ton of sense and good points, how the heck does he spew this out so fast in a funny way? Very talented
Practice, learning his script really well, rehearsal. (I guess)
djfirkins is correct
He's an actor. It's his profession. He's a professional actor 🍻
Practise and intelligence.
@@LucasCarter2 And lots of anger.
“The snowflake never feels responsible for the avalanche.”
-Voltaire
It's not a Voltaire quote sorry... Try Stanislaw J. Lec, he was a Polish Poet who lived between 1909 - 1966
Not a Voltaire quote
@@daveking8186 z i8?
O
🤔
Great quote
"I disapprove of what you say, but I defend to the death your right to say it"
“I detest what you write, but I would give my life to make it possible for you to continue to write”
- Evelyn Beatrice Hall
Exactly. And being "cancelled" doesn't mean you throw that person into prison or take away their right to their opinion. It means you stop listening to them and supporting them, which EVERYONE has the right to do as well. And companies have the right to fire anyone they deem detrimental to their business. Those are rights that CANNOT be taken away. If we do, we cease to have a functional society.
Well, the first quote is voltaire, but yeah, point taken
@@freakydeaky1435 Well spotted. And while we are on Voltaire, how about: "The right to free speech is more important than the content of the speech."
@@freakydeaky1435 actually it's not voltaire en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evelyn_Beatrice_Hall
Right, but Ms Hall was talking about differences of political opinion, not someone saying "We should gas all the Jews" or "Trans women are mentally ill and should be locked up in an asylum". That's what hate speech entails.
'Offensive is subjective. What offends me may not offend you' - Steve Hughes.
"Whatever happened to 'sticks and stones?' " :D
@@stevious7278 only works if the words people are saying dont also encourage other people to beat you with sticks and stones.
@@EdaliaDayCreative Sure. One is words and one is actions. I'm not sure where or when you were raised but just in case nobody has ever told you...they are different.
If you somehow wish to put responsibility on others for decisions you make as to what actions you take because of what they said; let me introduce you to another little phrase..."the Nuremberg defense".
Look it up.
@@stevious7278 you misunderstand me. what i mean is that a large part of cancel culture is people trying to shut people down who are a) inciting violence against them, b) campaigning to remove their rights and c) encouraging other people to see that as acceptable behavioir. and this is resulting also in increases of actual violence against these minorities affected. so a lot of the time this “offence” that people say you should just “take on the chin” or “turn the other cheek” is about people objecting to words that result in physical harm. thats not always the case and there is also a huge part of cancel culture and internet mob mentality that does very much fall into the sticks and stones category where people should just ignore it. but there is a large part of it that is the other one and thats what i was referring to. the nuremburg defense can mean either “i was told to do it so have no responsibiliy” or “i broke the law because the law is unjust”. neither of which apply to what i meant. in case its unclear my stance is that while cancel culture is abhorrent as a whole its a word thats thrown around as a catch all for several different actions people take online, a large one of which would be summed up as “criticising influential people’s harmful behaviour en masse in an attempt to stop them from causing further harm”
@@EdaliaDayCreative Simple response...
bullshit
"The greatest threat of harm doesn't come from any bomb
The moment you refuse the human rights for just a few
What happens when that few includes you?"
-Brother Ali
This the rapper right ?
@@elliottkendall5256 yep! the song is called "civil war"
In an immortal technique song.
Sweet,thought so, not enough people know about these dudes anymore, the truth hurts I guess 😅🤦♂️
Spot on 😢.
“Those who are determined to be ‘offended’ will discover a provocation somewhere. We cannot possibly adjust enough to please the fanatics, and it is degrading to make the attempt.” ― Christopher Hitchens
Amen.
I miss him
I mean Hitchens flipped out about a 9/11-truther at one of his talks, doesn’t sound like someone who’s a staunch defender of free speech
@@kaingates He was an INCREDIBLY staunch defender of free speech and the right to express beliefs (especially contrary ones), he just didn’t want to hear what the “truther” had to say, which I do see as hypocritical, but he never once said that he shouldn’t be allowed to say it. In fact, he spoke to him after the conference, so actually in a certain sense he did hear him out.
What empty and worthless lives must they have
The worlds fast becoming a place I no longer want to live in.
We have enough cry babies already
The world is becoming a better place every day.
Crime is the lowest it has ever been, child mortality is the lowest it has ever been, life expectancy keeps increasing (except in the USA), electric energy keeps becoming cheaper and more available, same with food and medical coverage, last year there had been fewer wars than ever before.
If that is not a place you want to live in, you don't have to.
@@davidwuhrer6704 you're quite narrow-minded, aren't you.
@Thomas Crean even if i were going to list ''50 positive things'' about the world today, they all come with a price. ''cheap gas!'' >bigger carbon footprint. --- where did you come up with the number 50?... at this point I'm doubting whether you're a human. you're typing like a bot lmao.
@Thomas Crean ah yeah, typical, only address the tiniest segment of my reply. good luck mr hivemind, have a wonderful day. 🙂
The Police are called to a woman’s house after she’d dial 999 bellowing that a neighbour was exposing himself.
Blues & Twos race there. ‘ He’s upstairs!’ Up they go. ‘Where Madam?’
‘In his bedroom across the street!’
‘But, Madam, he’s behind net curtains...’
‘Stand on this chair, you can see everything!’
JK
That REALLY does sum up the whole ridiculous, farcical situation! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
“He was stood on a chair in his room and then jumped off” (regardless the poor f**ker was hanging himself coz this damn lockdown) i bet they would charge him still with exposure.
(By the way i dnt know this story, i simply predicted a situation that today is so possible)
4:28 "I see a culture that eschews redemption or forgiveness." That's the video. Right there.
Cancel culture in a fucking nutshell
Either all protests are okay or none are okay. I may not agree with certain protests that have happened this and last year but I defended them from the beginning because I understand that you NEED to be able to protest anything in a free and fair society
Yeah, all or nothing thinking is awesome...
100% agree. Freedom of speech and expression, including freedom to protest is an irreplaceable right in a modern society.
What if I protest the laws against murder?
@@spunkternal go ahead, it won’t be very popular though, but i wouldn’t want you to be arrested for just simply speaking
@@leahsander5490 well when you’re selective about your outrage it shows you don’t care about values/ethics/right vs wrong and u only care about politics and whether those people agree with your side or not. that’s no way to live in a free society “rules for thee but not for me”
That is so fucked up. I never imagined that something like this could happen in my lifetime.
Something like what?
@@SamuelBlack84 are reality is a dystopian parody
@@aaaaii6511 It isn't
@@aaaaii6511 Your spelling is a dystopian parody.
Gosh. I expected nothing less and have said for decades that our freedoms hang by a thread.
Let's go to the Winchester, have a nice cold pint, and wait for all this to blow over....oh yeah we can't.
You've got red on you, Howard
I'll stop doing them when you stop laughing. Oh, and dogs can't look up.