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I'm really glad you still decided to keep your original vision and not to re-upload it with the musical outro edited out. Goodbye, Doctor P.!
Oh my God UA-cam sucks!!
Olly, you make great content and as soon as I get out of my undergrad and get a job (I'm about to graduate with a BA in History!) I will definitely donate to you. You've got a lifelong subscriber, keep up the great work.
Is there a place I can make a one time donation?
Can you please spell, don't laugh!, raification?
Getting introduced to Philosophy Tube in late 2023 by watching "a man plagiarized my work..." and then going down the rabbit hole of UA-cam channel history, really does show how the heart and character of a creator stays the same, no matter how outside appearance might evolve. Big props to you Abigail, you have come a long way and you truly are an inspiration.
I'm on the same binge, for the same reason, thinking the same thing!
@lif6737 same, i was so shocked to her heart on this very recent comment especially now that the channel has grown so much.
disagree, her knowing smile has become more knowing somehow. STOP LOOKING AT US LIKE THAT. h o w c o u l d y o u k n o w ?
the fact that this is only the second horniest video about Jordan Peterson is wild to me
I spat my tea out reading this comment
@@K_i_t_t_y84 spit the tea sissss
Wait what's the first horniest? I don't get the joke
@@ZZValiant contapoints
TBF Being hornier than Contra Points is quite the task, even for Olly.
When a large constrictor is tightening around your throat but you don't break character. #craft
Hey, some of us are into that.
That freaked me the fuck out
the serpent is a very powerful being #THEcraft
I had a ball python on my neck once. It was scary. Philosophy dude has balls of steel lol.
As someone with larger pet snakes, it's really not so bad. Just a sort of 'blep' feeling in your throat and then you're over it and they realize they can't kill you so they loosen a bit.
I just realized that Abbigail in her new video on JP is dressed as an archarypal angel, opposing this video where she dresses as the devil himself
Well done Abigail, well done 👏👏
her mind ugh we dont deserve her
I'm revisiting this video....omg thanks for helping me put 2 and 2 together! Xx
i wanna like this comment but it is at that sweet sweet biblical memery number.
L
"The devil you know beats the devil you don't" 😏
I watch PhilosophyTube for the plot
Every lesbian ever (including me)
Haha I’m the 666th like
@@afish1659 stunning
Respectfully watching... the plot... yeees.
@@arandomcomment1092 Well...
Congrats Abigail on being one step closer to getting into heaven
LMAO
@@mychannelofawesome
I mean yeah, they DID combine Philosophy and Theater
Darn, seems like we’ve been duped ;-;
@@mychannelofawesome correct, both because she's a woman and because heaven most likely doesn't exist.
OK ok, I need to watch this video 10 more times to understand it
@@dalton1726 *tips fedora*
Can't wait until Hbomb embraces this level of sky-high production value and does a topless video with hours-worth of make-up, enormous nails, multiple characters and strong bisexual lighting.
Did you not see him being birthed out of a giant printout of loss.jpg?
“Strong bisexual lighting” is my new favorite concept and you have my undying gratitude
Strong bisexual lighting is now discourse cannon
Hbomb has the chaotic bisexual energy to pull it off. the question is, will he ever not be too tired to actually do it.
The three arrows one is going to be insane
"Turns out, in order to get into heaven, you have to be both Muslim and trans"
You're already halfway there, Abby!
Fatima Thorn when 😳😳😳
@@indigodeluxe I'm screaming 😭
@@indigodeluxe lmaoooooooooo
So I need help. Where is the trans aganda when I need it?
@@Alina_Schmidt aisle H just below the capital and beside the 200x140 mattress stand
"I wanted to send this to my dad, but you're naked and pretending to be Satan"- Oliver Thorn, quoting one of his correspondents.
“I wanted to send this to my weird Peterson-Lad cousin, but you’re naked and pretending to be satan” -Me, quoting my own train of thought at the beginning of the video
"I wanted to reference Richard Boyd, so rewatched this in full view of 50% of the residents of my university apartments because I forgot to close the bloody kitchen window. Now they all think I watch philosophical demon porn" - me, last week
@@downloadsdownloads5525 Aren't your neighbors correct, though? "Philosophical demon porn" seems like a perfectly accurate summary of this video to me.
@@qoiosgarritano1355 ...perhaps you're right
Replace dad with mammy, and that's me.
ollie, sweetheart, how do you expect me to focus on what youre saying
it IS a magnificent chest bush.
I think even Austin Powers would approve.
That’s what pause is for, fap it out, clear your head, then watch another few minutes and repeat 😂
@@XercinVex oh wow lol
Especially considering it really seems as though he's not wearing pants
He seems to believe I'm gonna pay attention to philosophy while he's naked, with this make-up, looking straight to the camera like this and holding 2 fucking snakes
I need Ollie and Natalie to make a 40 minute video with all the costumes, outfits and to put on the greatest Philosophy Fashion Show then bring about the Apocalypse. Life would be complete.
I also hope both of them have the sense to shoot lots of B-roll whenever they're in a particularly intricate costume or set.
peterson would picture this as he himself is hanging on a burning cross in the background
put words to my deepest desires
The King and Queen of LeftTube.
Seconded
me watching Abigail pull off this look as well as looking absolutely fabulous for her coming out:
She has the range, dahling
This is probably among the most popular UA-cam videos with an uncensored topless woman
69th like..... nice.
THE DAHLING SENDS
trans people are powerful.
@@notaninstrument7707 Oh, good! :D
A couple of years ago, I heard of a concept called "optimistic nihilism." In layman's terms, it means life is meaningless, and humanity's existence serves no greater purpose, so you might as well spend your life enjoying it and making the world a better place for others. That's basically how I operate.
I'm pretty sure this is the point of Nietzsche
There are several people that proclaim such an idea for different reasons: Nietsche, camus, sartre, stirner
Most of the millenial generation's ultimate philosophy is either naïve or aware optimistic nihilism.
This is also the xkcd approach
Well, there's still an ideology in there somewhere, isn't there? If you want to make the world a better place, that means that there is some target to work towards. So the question moves away from an existential problem to a social problem. What does the world look like that you want to leave behind? That's driven by ideology.
MAKEUP AND NAILS CONSULTANT: NATALIE WYNN HAHAHA IM DYING
Is that all femininity is to you?
@@Zowtah i mean, yeah
Nails?! Is tHaT aLl WoMaNhOoD mEaNs To YoU?!?!?!
I was just about to comment asking if this was Natalie inspired. Hahahahha the mood lighting gave it away.
@@terminalglimmer yeah its such a contrapoints vid
Nobody:
One person on every video: you're turning into ContraPoints
Ollie, holding snakes suggestively and talking about doing molly: nope, don't see it
this is the first video I watched for him and I was like, someone's been watching Contra Points
That's a double negative. Nobody saying nothing means someone's saying something. It's "nobody said anything."
and is that a bad thing? I'm very glad that they are inspiring one another. MORE CYBER SYMBIOSIS
I love it
Look if there’s an aesthetic i want to see more youtubers using it’s that of contrapoints
You will never read this, but I'd like you to know that this video was my first step to being deradicaised from the right. I'm am a much better and happier person because of it. Thank you
i’ve read this, and i’m incredibly happy for you.
So nice to know you're happy and deradicalised, Adam! Keep it up!
So happy for you ✨!!
I was moved to the right and found god and couldn’t be more happy with the improvements in my life
@@choccy_bagel thank you god bless you 🙏
Satan DESTROYS objectivity with FACTS and LOGIC
BATTLESTATIONS, EVERYONE !
That depends on how you look at it
@@anton-io It depends on what you mean by "how you look at it" it...
@@Anskurshaikh That really depends on your perspective of meaning in the context of what you mean when you ask what they mean by "depends on how you look at it".
@@freedomofspeech2867 Well first off I've actually been defending Jordan in this comment section. Secondly, saying that my behaviour is 'so fucking white' (ignoring the two prior replies my comment was imitating) is an example of a prejudice against a race, and therefore textbook racism. Thirdly, objectivity is a concept entirely generated within the human mind. Your entire perception of the world is subjective, which is why the primary crux of all philosophy is 'I think therefore I am'. At the base of all assumptions is the belief in the self.
Besides from that, I do actually like a lot of what Jordan says, and the majority of criticism against him I've seen has been fairly nitpicky or not even criticism against him, but against an individual's perception of his ideas. He's not a perfect man by any standards. Both the Bible and the literal definition of the word define the impossibility of perfection. He has also said things that I disagree with, however I still believe he is a good man, and a pretty great clinical psychologist.
Try not to approach arguments with the standpoint of insulting your opponent. Jordan himself says that if you insult everyone who disagrees with you, you can't accept anyone to change their mind.
four minutes into the video I realized I am watching a naked guy with hairy chest, devil wings and a crown holding a life snake discussing the philosophies of Nihilism and Relativism to debunk a Canadian psychologist author.
the internet is a wild place.
I cant stop looking at those nipples
So round and pink...
@Sappho it really is
This guy spends his days debunking popular conservative youtubers. Thats what he does and half arguments hidden by costume and theatrics.
Did you smoke before this video? Lol
Hot 😩
Olly looking at the camera dressed a shirtless demon, causally running a snake through his fingers, and saying in a deliberately deep voice "do you care more about meeting those expectations (voice lowers in pitch) ... or about looking good?" is my everything now.
I can hardly fathom how a person can produce such unbelievably good content.
Watching this in a train as a social experiment. If I were to guess, Girl facing me thinks Im watching a comedy and a guy next to me suspects Im into reaaaly weird porn. Thanks.
thank you for this comment lmao
@m. "SEXY HUNK absolutely DESTROYS my objectivism with his MASSIVE facts & logic (ALMOST CAUGHT!!!1!11)"
"""social experiment""
uh huh
Wait, is this porn weird?
It's phenomenological world and you can't possibly know what the girl facing you and that guy were thinking. :)
Me: hey, is this the leftist lightning or the bisexual lightning?
Philosophy Tube: *y e s*
Well i love the lighting.
Im not left wing. But im VERY bisexual.
**cue Stranger Things theme**
@@dennyhebron3655 I'm slowly working my way through all his older videos. I'm loving how hard he makes me think about these complex issues, and also how, when he takes off his shirt...
Ollie swings both ways?
I did not know that.
Good to know.
@@antediluvianatheist5262 -he doesn't, he's straight.- due to new information this statement has been redacted
Well now we've got a deep dark mother and a deep dark father to worship
Hell yeah
More like daddy
And your photo is gappy - top level truth
slash fic time
Deep Dark Daddy.
Abi's impression of Peterson is just *chef's kiss*.
This season of Lucifer is weirdly educational.
he wanted to get into some new hobbies in hell
That feeling when you run out of Lucifer so you just watch this video over and over again
I do hear he's a man of wealth and taste
Not sure if educational is the word I'd use. It's mostly lies and misattributions, but he is the devil...
When I say lol to this, I mean I really laughed 😆
i guess ContraPoints is a genre now
I see it more as an homage really, her having set this style into place. Like a school of art, founded by the great ContraPoints.
A genre, an aesthetic, all grand.
@Gracie P she legit helped him make the video ^_^
@Gracie P With enough time I'm sure Olly can carve out his own look through. A small team behind him could help him to achieve that.
@Gracie P "Make up and Nails Consultant: Natalie Winn"
Olly is finding excuses to wear less clothes every video.
I can't say I'm upset about it.
@@alexhartline5707 I can't wait
He’s trying to impress the queen. He said in one of his previous videos that he wants to fuck the queen, after all.
if only we could offer up excuses like fresh bloodied lambs
I aint complaining
23:33 the picture behind Abi's camera of Venus, with a bi flag and a trans flag. I guess it was always there for anyone to see. How wonderfully her!!
Holy shit, hiding in plain sight
I think this is part of why I could tell...coming towards her coming out....that she was going to come out. I said to my husband "omg I think this man is actually a woman!" Then she did come out and my god is she a divinely beautiful woman! ♥️ looking at her now in male 'drag' I see her grace and beauty just as clearly!
I know how much you've struggled with your body image and how hard it must have been to edit yourself shirtless on camera, and I'm really happy you're in a place where you could do it ❤️
Awww 💟
He's also SUCH a babe; I'm glad he's decided to show himself for us, cause hes got a lot to work with
Yus! Bravo! 💜
It's always nice to see love and respect for different body types. People joke about "UA-cam Daddies" but I'm telling you Ollie's striking the proper balance between manly wiles and dad bod. If I were sexually awakened toward men he would meet my standards.
Should be easy though when you look like Oliver.
is this what theater majors are doing with their life now
Theatre major here, yes. At least the ones that aren't pretty airheads. This is our plan.
@@themysteriousstranger4580 Hahaha, no shade!
He's a professional actor, and a lot of his videos incorporate theatrics like this.
Shiiit... For illustrating Harris & Peterson's chicanery and doing so in such an intelligent manner, he could've majored in being a Mime for all I care.
@@neorock6135 Honestly yeah this man could just have a high school diploma and it wouldn't matter
[Table of Contents]
Intro - 0:00
First Circle - Life is Meaningless - 0:58
Second Circle - Objective Morality - 6:37
Third Circle - The Tao of Peterson - 12:48
Fourth Circle - Postmodernism - 19:38
Final Circle - The Real Meaning of Life - 28:03
Credits - 35:21
you are beautiful and I love you
But what's the time stamp for when Olly is shirtless--oh wait. nevermind
David Shi the only real time stamp that matters
The Jordan Peterson impression absolutely kills me, I love it.
It's the perfect balance of arrogant academic and Kermit
"I'd rather have the snake than the snake-oil salesman" is the sentiment of the century honestly
the sentiment
of the century is sweet
Only to a sentimental twat
Especially when the sneks are so cute!!!
@@zoushaomenohu To be fair, though: When is a snek ever _not_ cute?
@@CapriUni When it's trying to choke the life out of you and eat your foot?
@@KuraIthys Okay. Maybe. But the same argument could be made of any predator species, including our favorites, the kittehs and doggos -- doesn't stop them from being in the "Cuteness Overload" club.
Philosophy Tube has gone full ContraPoints and I love it
Going contra is a verb now.
the live snakes! THE LIVE SNAKES!!!
I thought this too!
I did not notice this. good point
Contra is a adjective now, Olly is very Contra
No shirt, singing, AND danger noodles in a single Philosophy Tube video? 😍
Yes, now what is
Your personal intellectual response
To the meaning of what he is saying ?
@@APEX-qv7rm danger noodles. dope!
My reaction exactly, Lancer. 😋
Wow, might be one of the best videos I have ever watched
@@APEX-qv7rm ...Just on a scale of 1 to 4.
When Olly calls Natalie an angel it's soooooo adorable aaaaah!
I'm laughing at the Jordan Peterson impression, spot on
Same, I was dying when I first heard it
Hard to separate Peterson from Kermit.
I know, right? I was especially impressed because Peterson's inflection is so hard to match.
Calvin Rohan I think he could have added a little more Kermit, but that’s just me 😂
I didn't realize it was an impression. I thought he just took audio clips and sped them up a bit so they didn't last too long.
so, is this canon in the "Contra Points Extended Universe" ?
Cinematic Breadtube universe?
@@haruhisuzumiya6650 at this point, after all the milk spilling and bathroom scenes, we should just rename it to Breadtub
It's the LCU comrade!
I'm pretty sure there is a Breadtube Cinematic Universe at this point, and this probably is canon.
You bet your ass it is.
Breadtubers go “i need fancy lights and references to christianity in my videos or i will die” and i love them for it
What the fuck is a breadtuber.
@@cherryberry2272 leftist/left-leaning youtubers (that make political content)
My favourite twist on the word bread as denoting a left inclination is someone being "breadpilled"
And then there's Thought Slime.
Yes, and then you got Shaun and Three Arrows doing the exact opposite.
Watching this again. As a theatre-specialist, I love the reminder of how much these disciplines intersect. Thanks for reminding me how I learned things . I often bring up theatre when speaking to philosophy-specialists, and usually it’s me understanding their disciplines,but them having no idea about mine.
Okay, but that python had an amazing on-screen presence, absolute lad, 10/10.
Also, “hedonism is like snakes” is such a good phrase, can we get that on some merch
Say what you want about this era. I can sit on my toilet drinking tea, and watch half naked man, wearing crown and snakes, talk philosophy to me on the internet. Best. Age. Ever.
It sure is!
why are you drinking tea on the toilet?
@@ameliebhuiyan5452 because I can.
@@ameliebhuiyan5452
The question should be, why aren’t you?
@@cremetangerine82 understandable response have a nice day
Contra, whatever you've been teaching Olly, it's working.
Me: [Watches well planned and thought out and educational video]
...
...
Me: Bebbeh snek wants to climb
Me, also!
Props to Abigail for being snek-friendly and props to the snek wrangler.
Most of all props to pwitty noodle for being the pwittiest whittle noodle ever ~
"Turns out to get into heaven you have to be both Muslim AND trans" Perfect start to the video
Aaron: And they do exist, and a lot more of them then you might think. openly, in Indonesia, Pakistan, and in the west, too, and they probably in other places too but hidden in places where they are way more closeted.
@@milascave2 I'm mostly sure there's at least one fundamentalist Muslim country that, while sticking to the "stone the gays" precept in the Quran, also are impressively accepting of transgender people. Weird, right?
@@henriquepacheco7473 quran never mentions stoning gays. BUT, hadiths mentions throwing them from the highest roof in town/city.
@@jendoubinour6902 Ah, well that's not quite as bad, is it?
@@henriquepacheco7473 I think you were thinking of Iran. BUT they don't accept gay trans people (so a trans feminine person is treated like a cis gay woman if they like other women, for example). Also apparently you're not legally considered trans there unless you go on hormones and get all of the surgeries (not every trans person wants to go through the whole shebang) and the Iranian government isn't 100% on the level with women's rights, either.
I could be wrong; ask for sources and I'll find some if it's that important to you.
So turns out Olly dressed as Lucifer, shirtless and playing with a snake, debunking The Lobster King, is my kink
Chloe DeRolf sad thing is I have seen stranger kinks.
*STRANGER KINKS THEME SONG PLAYS*
Olly is daddy change my mind
Did I miss the debunking part? Because disagreeing with someone's philosophy and attitude to living is not debunking.
@Tim Evans What in the ever loving fuck did I just read?!
"one of those horrible people who tried to combine theatre with philosophy"
*Looks at UA-cam channel name*
Kowalski analysis
*shuffles through chart*
“Skipper we appear to have an example of hypocritical humor where the subject intentionally or unintentionally states a description with a negative connotation that also applies to the subject themselves for comedic effect.”
I thought your comment was funny
What's Kowalski analysis? I have to know.
@@weareallbornmad410 "Kowalski, analysis"
Kowalski: one of the penguins from the Madagascar and the Penguins of Madagascar movies
analysis: another penguin told Kowalski to analyze the situation or something
Put together: it's pretty much a meme now for confusing situations
@@nope8083 Ah. So it was simply my lack of meme literacy showing... ok, thanks :)
I like you so much... can't really wrap my head around how a random person from a suddenly popped up UA-cam video can call out so much respect & admiration. thank you for what you are doing!
She has another video about parasocial relationships. It's like "ok yes but I still feel it"
I'm glad I found someone with an opposing view. I have been stuck in an echo chamber for the past few months. There were things I could agree and disagree with. Thank you for sharing your views.
Fucking good for you dude. We all have to live in this planet together
I really should stop going into the comments section, but gems like this and the reply make me a bit happier.
Same man, trying to expose myself to more opposing views!
Please tell me your views now I'm quite interested
Good for you dude. It is normal to have agreements and disagreements. Dr. P is an amazing orator, and a sharp thinker, albeit with his own flaws. He is often incorrect, but his orator skills can make you think (and convince you) otherwise. This is particularly the case for fields/subjects on which the listener doesn't know much.
I remember I got into Dr. P years ago, during bill C16 heyday and before the intellectual dark-web garbage. I was listening to a lot of his lectures and nodding my head. Then, when he started talking confidently about environmental issues, claiming "he read everything he could get his hands on", I just heard him failing miserably to understand the issue. The thing is, I am also well-read on ecology/environment (just wrapping up my PhD in env.sci), and I could see clearly the bullshit, while for the issues for which I was a n00b, he could convince me that cranes walk and penguins fly.
I am grateful to Dr. P and his bulls****g skills, since he made me into a better person. I actively tried to understand how people communicate since, and how to read between the lines and words they say. There is a lot of good takeaways you can get from Dr. P, however I was lucky enough to stop paying attention around the time when he got into lobsters, steaks, hanging out with Ben Shapiro, and essentially became a stepping-stone for western-nationalists (It's a whole different can of worms). There is much more wisdom and beauty to be found around beyond Dr. P, so go clean your room, and go read a book, contemplate your houseplants (or better yet, outside nature), and go tell your loved ones you cherish them.
honestly you and "Contrapoints" have the best video format for this kinda stuff in my opinion, its chapters and sections full of imagery and clever word play that makes it more than just some guy ranting to his webcam. 10/10
Don't know if anyone has said it or already, but your Kermit / Jordan Peterson is spot on 👌
I legit thought it was Peterson until a couple British-isms
Who knew that Kermit was such a prick?
@@Aconitum_napellus are you suggesting what I think you are or am I misinterpreting your comment.
Something Dreadful There’s a nice video on UA-cam where Kermit’s dad(?) kills the same multiple times for not having a certain type of coffee so, it probably runs in the family. Wub.
It's almost like you can find your own meaning from life, and that it doesn't have to be what everyone else wants.
and yet many are swayed by the moods and tides of their chosen majority, with little to no strong sense for themselves of knowing right from wrong.
"Turns out to get into heaven you have to be both Muslim and trans"
The first time I watched the video I was Muslim
And now I'm trans so I could be only one of them each time
danger noodle definitely Muslim.
mood
You were so close.
Islam doesn't agree with homosexuality, let alone transgender people.
2 greatly conflicting ideologies, both supported by one larger political ideology?
HMMMMMMMMMMMM 🤔🤔🤔
@@taffyistrashy but wasn't it a thing in the middle east at some point where they encouraged one of the people in a gay relationship to transition so they would be considered a straight couple?
first act: noted to contain two snakes
me: oh haha funny joke
first act: does in fact contain live snakes
me: oh my god
i love having a good dose of the daddy of darkness
r/daddyofdarkness
MAKE IT HAPPEN.
No that's lobster daddy
DOD would be the anagram of daddy of darkness. But of we somehow get an a word instead of "of" it might be better due to corniness.
38:31 I love that one of the patreon supporters with production credits in this video is "Jordan B. Peterson"
Nobody can blame us for being thirsty. Not after this. But also, thank you for the philosophy.
this was a masterful masterful thirst trap
@Anti Cucho I think most people do not look for good things from UA-cam comments. The content is not like Olly's older videos, and I would not be surprised if those had a high proportion of comments "debating" the philosophy compared to this video having less of that and more talking about the acting and lighting and snakes and body hair. But look to ContraPoints for some nods at a rationale for intentionally causing this. From Olly's perspective, a video that is 95% philosophy monologue, 5% good film might not be as worthwhile as a video that entices people's aesthetic/sexual attentions and has a lot of researched philosophy in there as well. They accomplish different things and different people will watch them. Ultimately, this type of video is getting more popular, and I think that's a good thing because the other style of video, the more boring, less distracting exposition of philosophy is still not a dying breed and we can always go back to older ones of those; they don't get outdated very quickly. Engaging people's emotions and humor is intentional here, and it's okay not to like it.
@Anti Cucho We are embracing the Hedonism
I loved the subtle dig at Moleneux by calling him a software salesman, not a philosopher XD
"philosopher" doesn't fit molyneux tho
@@ophu7760 It doesn't fit Peterson, Shapiro and Hicks either. There's really few right-wing philosophers right now. I guess Scruton is a right wing philosopher (he's quite homophobic though).
The guy is just bitterness personified, calling that philosophy would be crazy
@@lightgazaret6825 well. There's also Alasdair Macintyre. He is 90 years old though.
Is that a reference to Peter Molyneux?
so JP says it's good to order your life based on some principles? Bruh, Marie Kondo has been saying this for years, and she gives better instructions!! Marie Kondo>>>Peterson
"Does this spark joy?"
"Well, that depends on what you mean by the word 'joy'. You see, according to Nietzsche..."
I have it on good authority that Marie Kondo is, in fact, a woman though. Also I bet she ain't even white. So you see we can't have that.
@@JackgarPrime goddamn I just saw Peterson in my mind kneeling in front of a pile of clothes in his bedroom looking like his usual glum self as Kondo tries to explain the concept of joy to him.
Kondo brings a handcuffed Jordan Peterson to the front of the stage.
"Does this one spark joy?"
The crowd boos.
Marie Kondo is my religion
"Some days are so bleak that even the thought of pleasure and happiness makes me sick. Thinkest thou that I, who saw the face of god and tasted the eternal joys of heaven, am not tormented with ten thousand hells in being deprived everlasting bliss. And then the water goes cold but you sit there anyway because sometime hell is a bathtub in Debden."
This is beautiful.
As a major fan of Jordan Peterson, I came into this not wanting to concede to the idea's you were putting forth, but you made really great points that in some ways points out major holes in JP's ideology. While I may not agree with everything you suggest I'm glad I gave your video a chance, I'll sub!
"As a major fan of Jordan Peterson"
Sorry... Truly sorry...... but LOLOLOL!!!!
A HR guy who doesn't like micro transactions ya I’m a fan of a PHD Clinical Psychologist with 20 plus years of experience, that also happens to be a tenured professor at a major University in Canada. I like what he has to say sometimes...he’s not always right, but he’s a brilliant guy who’s managed to connect with tons of people. What’re your credentials? Would you even sit down with him to have a talk or are you to woke and intellectually superior? LOL you are small.
What do you think is the biggest hole in JP's ideology he addressed?
Onlyhas99 admittedly I’m not well versed in relativism, but like stated in the video I have always heard JP describe relativism & post modernism with negative connotations. It was refreshing to hear an counter argument on the topics so I didn’t essentially demonize them entirely. To be honest though, I think I’m going to take some time to do some reading on post modern and relativism so I can have a concrete opinion. I also liked his take on hedonism, never really thought about it that way- seems to me it’s a lot like the philosophy Objectivism that Ayn Rand puts forth.
@@soyborne.bornmadeandundone1342 he's commenting here out of respect, don't be a dick
*Jordan Peterson, yelling this at you from the carpark of a Jacksonville Hooters*
Tag yourself: I'm the tiny snake that keeps trying to kiss him.
I'm one of the 1 trillion hairs on Oliver's torso.
@@Molotov49 not gonna lie I'm kind of jealous now.
I’m the bath water at 29:34
We’re all trying to kiss Ollie
@@nyq4217 Correct!
Something I picked up on a review of "Everything, Everywhere, All At Once" was a point on nihilism: If nothing matters, then everything matters.
I think that's something JP is actively ignoring when he is (or was) preaching against nihilism. If life is inherently meaningless, then every moment is exactly as meaningful as the last.
How do you go from "nothing matters" to "everything matters". That's not good logic
@@TeaRiker yes it is.
If nothing matters at all, then everything has the exact same value.
@@koivunen2489 but that's obviously different from saying that everything matters.
@@TeaRiker I was trying to say it with different words to make it clearer.
@@koivunen2489if the value were 0, and the basis for something to matter is to "be", then it has to be greater than 0.
There's another quote which is more logically coherent to your argument and it is "If nothing matters, anything is permitted"
but not that everything matters
THIS ENDING SONG BOPS
it both bops and baps, it also rips a little
Karen West cover of Goodbye Mr A by The Hoosiers ;)
"Is this Ted? Is this Ted Talks?" A lost it XD
Theodore T. Talks.
@@s.bakyhnh1756 Actually, his middle initial is X. Are you not also aware of TEDX?
JackgarPrime Oh, I thought TEDx was Ted’s twin brother Xavier, Theodore X. Talks. You know, like a whole “Tale of Two Stans” thing where you name two twins Stanford and Stanley, except just the middle names changed.
You are approaching contrapoints levels of theatrical costumes and I enjoy seeing the convergence of y'all's channels lol
they will become one
It will be the most dialectically pleasing marriage. Ever.
My dream is for them to make a theatrical collaboration video
@@emmabyrne9274 the earth would flood from the amount of liquids my biology would yield if they ever collabed. 😍😍
@@sonyjedi1672 Mood
This costume is what every respectable villain in my D&D campaign aspires to look like.
So, are we transitioning to a world in which we refudiate arguments with fairy and daemon essays?
I'm alright with this transition.
Repudiate.
I'm also alright with this.
**looks at history**
Is that really significantly different than what we've been doing for millennia?
@@dynamicworlds1 I'm not sure what post-secondary school you went to but I don't remember having to impersonate a mythological character when submitting an essay... Then again, I don't know what sorcery goes into getting a doctorate.
@@mustbeaweful2504 Virgin sacrifices for one thing
@@mustbeaweful2504 I was referring to the millennia of academic discussion involving (or being curtailed by) religion.
(Not that I'm against turning that imagery back on the right, of course)
I can't stop laughing at your impersonation of Peterson's speech. I just can't.
"It puts the act of categorization itself into dehwt" 😁
tbh Peter Coffins was better tho :v
@FabioMartins I was about to say the same thing! I guess I'll contribute by time stamping for the everyone. 13:25
ME TOO OMG
Most people do a Kermit impression, but Olly gets the affect right. It's almost unnerving.
Starring: Sneks, as Good Bois
Also with the philosophy tube guy and he's talking for some reason
cute snek
I'm glad I'm not the only one who was focused on snek. (Yes, I was listening, and it's an incredible essay. But cute bois! 💗🐍💗)
I cant be mildly attractive in one gender and Abigail has two on LOCK.
Weird thing to talk about on here but digging the way you cite your research by having a citation showing up when you talk about the subject.
It's honestly one of the main things that made me subscribe. Mr. Thorn hasn't a habit of just making up his facts and figures. :DD
It's refreshing to listen to and consider a thoughtful, well-crafted, reasonably-researched essay....not just because it supports his arguments, but it also makes it that much easier to pursue even further delving into a particular point if one wants to.
That's not weird at all. I think it should be common practice.
That's not weird lol. Weird would be randomly bringing up something unrelated and noone knows what you're talking about
This is the third time I've tried to watch this. Focusing on you instead of the snakes. I like the snakes. I'm LISTENING.
@@Valkhiya Kittens would be better. I completely missed the sexual connotations because I wondered what the snakes' names were. Tiggy and Elvira.
Francesca
Wait there were sexual connotations?
@@Salthat So I hear. I was thinking zoology myself.
@@Salthat I came away still knowing nothing about Jordan Peterson. Was I not listening right?
Francesca If I recall correctly, he’s a pretentious asshole that contradicts himself 24/7 and other pretentious fuckboys use him as a source, coming out looking like absolute jokes.
severely under-watched channel, the effort he put's in these productions is impressive
You probably already saw it. But in case you didn't, I (and he) recommend Contrapoints. A link to the Peterson episode is under the video.
Came here year ago with a foggy mind and a deluded, close-minded attitude, that only made me think of a way to disagree with you, now I am really listening to what you are saying and picking up the concepts and their technical definitions. You are one of those UA-camrs who actually know what they are talking about.
Don't regard everything Oliver says as correct, and don't regard everything Peterson says as correct. Oliver actually misunderstands some of Peterson's points
Two examples:
At 14:30 the argument is flawed. Oliver claims that the uniform of the police can be a symbol of chaos for many people, and although this is certainly true, his use of the word chaos has little to do with Peterson's use. 15 seconds before, he literally read his definitions of the abstract symbolisms of chaos and order, and it says that extreme order can become tyranny. That's what the uniform of the police can be, not chaos, especially not if you take into consideration Peterson's symbolic use of the word chaos.
Also about the conflicting terms of post-mordenism and Marxism that Oliver says he uses interchangeably, this is not really the case. Firstly he never says Marxism, but neo-Marxism. He also says too that they are fundamentally contradicting terms. The communist manifesto and Marxism described history as a constant oppression from the economically powerful to the economically weak and he argues that people weren't buying that idea anymore from a point onwards, so the story changed to oppression of one identity group to another, in general. He basically hates the "identity politics" that "these people" play, and their focus on group identity over personal identity, which as far as I am concerned, is a very very valid point.
@@Pspet but I’m just wondering what he means by personal identity? When he is implying that order is tribe, religion, health, home, and country, I’m assuming that he is supporting order although it can be tyranny. But most of the things he said that are “order” can be seen as group identities, as the very nature of home, tribe, religion, and country is just very collective. Isn’t he contradicting himself?
@@Pspet, Peterson's fundamental problem is that his public persona is that of the self-important pseudo-intellectual prick, but he uses terms in an ambiguous, self-serving and *hypocritical* way. So, it's automatically worthy of hate if you use a term that is a de facto or de jure term imposed by society? A small number of people own the vast majority of human society's wealth. Is it bad to cite that group, that plutocracy, as a group, or is that bad form, and we really ought not make Peterson mad? He classifies while railing at the idea of classification.
I'm no Marxist, but I have a basic grasp of the concept. Peterson seems not to, regardless of his bullshit "neo-marxism" term. I don't know whether he really doesn't, or he just says what he thinks is coherent with his overarching philosophies, or if he just serves up what he thinks will sell, or whether after so many years, he's come to believe his own nonsense.
And he doesn't seem to have the slightest clue what "post-modernism" is. Does he have the slightest idea how badly he misunderstands? Does it even matter in the internet age? Ker-ching, man. Ker-ching.
After listening to a number of Peterson's lectures, I don't feel the least bit edified -- at least, not from the lectures. This guy is a waste of time. You'd be far better served reading Nietzsche. Or a Timothy Snider book. Or even Toynbee. Or petting a cat.
@@Johnny.Fedora "Or petting a cat" -- 🤣🤣🤣, indeed
@@Pspet Well, the first argument may sound flawed because he of the example. But because you haven't mentioned, I am led to believe that you think that he is correct about "Walls of the City". The argument holds up enough.
Like he said, even Jordan Peterson has said that we see things in a subjective sense so two people can see the same things differently.
So Order and Chaos, whether we like it or not, are relative.
"Inspiring angel" is a perfect description of Natalie
Of COURSE Natalie did your nails. They're beautiful
oh god the way he says _D E L A Y E D G R A T I F I C A T I O N_ got me weak sis
n_n Masterful, aye.
This really should be compulsory viewing for all children, probably in the last weeks of the holidays before they transition to high school culture. This might well have saved my life although I haven’t given up trying to give up hedonism and my pleasures are highly restricted, and of course no longer enjoyable as my conscious is clearly not able to take my bullshit anymore.
The excellence, warmth, humour, eloquence, intelligence and grace, not to forget generosity of this fabulous creature is a tonic and an inspiration.
I have no words to express my gratitude.
I had to watch it twice because for some reason I couldn't focus on the philosophical talk the first time.
Peterson: "Pet a cat when you see one in the street"
Onion headline: "Heartbreaking: The Worst Person You Know Just Made a Great Point"
desconcerto Is that really good advice, though?
I mean, I love cats as much as anybody else, but you shouldn’t fuck around with feral cats.
First Last Way to make a completely unrelated discussion about how you hate communism.
Just like Jordan Peterson.
This is about petting cats not 20th century communism please stay on topic
I think I’ll stick to petting my own cat. Ferals are scary. Especially Aussie ferals- have you seen the size of them? They’re basically bobcats in an environment not evolved to deal with them. They’re the same size, and just as wild- many are 100+ generations wild. So I’ll pass on patting them, ta.
(Though to be fair, you’re unlikely to come across a feral of that sort in the street, the nasty big ones live out in the Australian bush)
@@theoneandonlymichaelmccormick Lenin is good actually
“‘12 Rules for Life’, a very popular self help philosophy book and ‘Maps of Meaning’, which is also a book.”
Oof.
I had to pause to stop laughing
Hmm. What's funny here? Is it the map/book part?
No name it’s because one of his books is described in glowing terms and the other is just...a book.
@@cocktailonion696 Ohh, I see. That makes sense
@@khanhsp The book is delirious, actually citing it would be considered a smearcampaign and not taking JP's ideas seriously. You just can't do it if you want to have JP fans listen to your take on him.
"The tree, the axis mundi, is without bark and leaves because has been [sic] mortally affected, as a consequence of the fall. Production of its first fruit - self-reference - placed it in shock, exhausted its resources. Its second fruit, associated with re-emergence into lush life and health, is the savior, the hero who redeems mankind from the consequences of the fall, the divine individual whose path of being leads back to paradise. This notion is represented imagistically (it has never really proceeded much past the image) in Figure 67: The Restitution of [Christ] the Mystic Apple to the Tree of Knowledge. "
Proceeds with a picture of Jezus nailed to a cross, with saints around him, adam and eve, and the tree of knowledge with - it's hard to make out but presumably - an apple.
This shit is Zeitgeist-tier.
I am truly astonished about how deep and still easy to understand are all your content. I friend of mine talk to me about your channel last Saturday and since then I've watched at least one video a day.
Just wanted to say thanks for that! I really appreciate it and as soon as possible I'll be one of your patrons.
Olly is now ranked with such legendary figures as newsreaders and the lady who works at the deli in that my experience of their professional ouptut is permanently derailed by the question "are they actually wearing pants?"
Your Jordan Peterson voice is amazing, I wondered a couple times if it was actually him talking
Hot bear daddy bods are good praxis
best practice
New body type: P H I L O S O P H Y B O D
M A X I M U M O V E R D A D
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I wish I was that snake.
It took me FOREVER to figure out where that laugh (0:58-1:03) came from. I *knew* I had heard it, but I couldn't place it. I finally figured out that it is the same laugh used at the end of the music video for Michael Jackson's "Thriller."
Because I've heard it before but couldn't place where, it was simultaneously familiar and creepy. Good choice! And great video, overall, too!
Takeaways:
•Peterson uses the postmodern method to criticize postmodernism.
•A shirtless monologue on philosophy is possible.
Felt like I should have gotten more out of this, but there was so much I couldn't synthesize it in one go.
@@iannichols3125 I do this, but not to try to change people (you can't really change others, just yourself). For example, if I'm talking about a monist or pantheistic idea with a Christian or an atheist, I'll use terminology they are more comfortable and familiar with.
No amount of logic or argument will change an entrenched belief-in fact, good arguments make them dig their heels in harder-but you can introduce new ideas using their terminology. This gives them a way to wrap their head around the concept and makes it feel less like something "outside" or "other" and more like an extension of what they understand already.
Give people a good model and a basic understanding and they might change themselves. But don't make it your goal.
I realized shirtless philosophical monologues were possible when I saw drawings and statues of ancient Greek philosophers
@erni muja You might want to watch the show of Peterson`s only true fan. :D
@erni muja oops, I wasn't aware that I wasn't thinking. In future I'll try to remember to think...
Which is to say, "think for fucks sake" isn't useful in getting people to think the way you do. It's more likely to alienate
@erni muja power being A factor and power being THE ONLY factor are 2 different things. Sorry but you're not breaking any new ground here
oliver, shirtless, dressed as satan, holding a snake: let’s talk philosophy
me, no longer paying attention: 👁👄👁
Lol SAME
I never wanted to be a snake more
fucking REAL
Same lol
If pale flab is a turn on, you've come to the right place.
Me watching Contrapoints in her fairy outfit: This is so creative and cool. What a cool way to add visuals to, what is inherently, a lecture.
Me watching Olly in his satan outfit: Oh........ oh my.
As Sigmund Freud said, "Sometimes a nigh-naked person using sexy mood lighting to emphasize their attractiveness is just fanservice" :p
I never had any professors such as you. You make philosophy entertaining and interesting. Thank you.
Ollysexual. A person who regardless of gender or previous sexuality is attracted to Oliver Thorn.
You are another
Common idiot here
Elevating the cartoon porn
Above the value of the philosophy
@@APEX-qv7rm stop trolling, it makes you look like an insecure asshole
@@APEX-qv7rm Oh dang you're here too.
@@APEX-qv7rm nya nya nya people are happy me no likey >:(
"Oliver Thorn." You really can't get a better romance novel name than that.
This was a weird video to serve as my introduction to your channel. Buuuuuuut...I'm in.
Haha this is a fun overlap of my youtube subscriptions!
@@Solnai42 Certainly not one I expected.
Why hello there, fancy meeting you in this comment section, PotN
Strange crossover but cool.
Welcome and have fun! Also, I’ve been following your channel for years, so it’s great to see you here. Surprised it took so long, given your love of philosophy.
The world might be on fire, but Leftist UA-cam is fricking amazing these days.
Yeah the whole "anti ess jay dub yoo" hysteria was kicking our asses for grip and it's still popular but we're definitely catching up to the right on YT. I credit Contrapoints most for the philosophy side and Kyle Kulinkski most for the news side if I had to make my top picks.
@@thomasbuchovecky2205 Cody's showdy is pretty good, too.
Thomas Buchovecky I still watch Kyle occasionally, I just wish he would go left. He’s holding onto liberalism unfortunately
@@thomasbuchovecky2205 kyle? really? the most interesting thing he's done lately is arguing with his own fanbase about his love of tribal tattoo design lmao. He just seems like the typical succ dem dude on youtube (pakman, PV, rational national). he's like sam seder, only without the dry humor and he's like 75% more self-serious.
@@thomasbuchovecky2205 I don't think the anti-SJW crowd is exclusively right-wing - it definitely has those elements, but there are plenty of people who dub themselves anti-SJW who are left wing in most respects, they just don't buy into certain ideas, like privilege, patriarchy, etc, and they don't approve of things like censorship and positive discrimination. You don't need to be for any of that to be left-wing.
But having said that, yes the left is definitely biting back on YT, which is great. I'm quite far left economically but I definitely have some sympathy for the concerns of some so-called anti-SJWs, so its always good to have my views challenged, which just didn't happen much a few years ago.
this is....the greatest aesthetic of any video that exists. the music? the lighting? the snake?? ma'am, think of the rest of us! you can't set the bar this high!
Oliver, have you been hanging around that ContraPoints girl again?!
oh you know something's going on between philosophy mom and dad
"girl"
@@mantas9826 yes, you're right, it was a bit infantilising to call her a girl. You tell them, she's a woman. :)
IDK, I read it as a joke like, a mother from the 50s asking her teen son if he's been seeing that girl Betty again! I don't think they meant it infantilizing at all but I can see how it would be taken that wife
was just a parody of an upset 50s mom lol
"Philosophy mom and dad" XD So true
"See me after class" is the ultimate response to the entity that calls itself a professor while brandishing utter ignorance on every political theory it utters a single word about.
especially when issued by Satan himself, has some.... other implications. "After class..."
@@stevencleere4912 Oh yes...
Like I view postmodernism as extremely useful and the best reply to Marxism. Traditionalist whinging is the weakest shit ever. Utterly misses the point.
The pitfalls lie in the fact that all such strict metanarratives will very frequently be overly reductionist and fail to assist in understanding the world. Strict historical materialism alone is insufficient.
You and Natalie are the etherial (over)theatrical parents of youtube and i LIVE for it
@itsinmyvein bruh the point was that the "over" theatrical part is what I love about them chill