Totally agree! I was at 3200 miles on the Kenda tires when I replaced them. Needless to say there was still plenty of life on them. I bought the Michelin Commander III Cruisers and WOW, night and day difference. Perform much better, stick to the road better. Absolutely love them!
@@etishbite456 I think Commander 3s are just the newest version of the same tire. 2s will eventually no longer be in stock and 3 will be all you can get until there's a 4 lol. If you can get 2s, don't hesitate. I'm sure they're practically just as good.
Absolutely love your bobber - one of the best I've seen. Just installed the same tires on mine (after you). Man what a difference and look. So wanna do fender delete but I'm in love with my corbin. Great video brother.
Interesting video. Michs are no doubt fine tires. I have a Mich 190/55 ZR17 at the rear of my '17 Yammy FZ-10 throwing out ~155/rwhp. The BHP is a useless figure unless every bike on the planet is tested using the exact same dyno and environment. I've recently purchased a new 2022 Indy Rogue and has the stock Metzeler Cruisetec 150/80B16 77H at the rear and they're not "phenomenal" but sufficient enough to wrap myself around a tree or two at 125mph. Ride safe.
I noticed the exact same thing 30 seconds in and my first turn, night and day better better than the Kenda stock tires. Love the Commander III's on my Scout.
@@Jimbobbington I Freaked out too when the back tire slid about 3 inches and realized how low I was. These rounded tires just naturally lean it so it was something to get used to but absolutely love 'em now 🤙
Hey Jim....WOW!! I Now know what you're saying....before I ordered my Bobber I sat on both a standard Scout with the Street style tires and a Full blown Bobber ABS with the ATS Tires and noticed that the standard Scout with street tires was sooo much easier to move and steer on the Dealership floor ( Didn't test ride) but Noticed a huge difference which is of course the subject of your Video. I too thought that it was the Smaller Engine, the Standard Mini ape bars and the lighter weight which made the steering differences between the two feel night & day !!! NOW I KNOW It was the Tires!!! BUT DAMN IT JIM....I HAVE A PROBLEM!!! PLEASE don't shake your head ok?? PROMISE??? MAN I LOVE....LOVE The Bad Ass Mean Aggressive Beefy Look of the Enduro style tires!!!! So much so my plan WAS....When the Michy's took a crap....to "UPGRADE" to the even more Aggressive Shinko Mobber ATS tires..... much like our Instagram friends Army Green Scout.... "701 Raptor" which eventually made my mind up on ordering my Scout Bobber! Also...I do not ride long distance or highways any longer....but instead Do what the Bobber does best...CRUISE the Local scenic Jersey Shore roads...So Although I COMPLETELY Get what your saying and am even INTRIGUED a bit to chang to the Commander's when the time comes....theres that little guy on my shoulders telling me that I may not " Look" at my Bobber in the same way. So Its gonna come down to what I WANT.... What is more important to me....Looks vs Sacrificing driveability.
Totally understandable! The knobby look is super cool in its own way, but you do sacrifice agility. I was simply surprised at the difference, but there's no wrong answer. Everything in life is about making some sort of sacrifice to get exactly what you want!
@@Jimbobbington Jim TOTALLY Agree....and THIS VIDEO was PERRECT Because The Agility of my Scout Bobber as compared to my Katana & CBR 600 of the past was SOOO Different....Feels soo much " Heavier".... and I was thinking/ presuming exactly as you were that it was because of the "Bobber" design....not realizing just how much Tires have . So Thanks....I have PLENTY of time to decide what my next tire choice will be....as I rack up the miles....what will become more important....the Looks...or the Practicality of performance..so chalk this video up to GENIUS on the " "Was this video helpful to you??" Rating !! 👍
@@Jimswholiestofcoleus really appreciate the feedback Jim! Worst case, you'll always need more tires and can change your mind every several thousand miles!
Hi Jim, I love your videos. Thank you for this information about tires. I think it’s going to be very helpful. I just recently purchased the scout twenty. It has the front and rear chunky tires. I’m thinking about changing the front to the rogue wheel possibly. For easier handling in corners. Also side question. What kind of gloves are you wearing in this video? I love them.
That's probably because your fuel is measured in RON and US unleaded is measured differently. I believe 95 RON is similar to our 91 octane and 98 RON similar to 93 octane. They don't give us 93 octane in places at elevation for some reason. The claim is the extra octane is unnecessary at elevation for some reason. I live at ~6700 ft above sea level.
Goddamnit Jimbobbington, I still don't have the analog tach I ordered in February and now I have to worry about tires??! /facepalm I have those Pirelli's on my '22 Bobber and I can't put miles on it fast enough to warrant new tires.. Yet. 😒 Love your Vlogs. Bankruptcy, here I come! LOL :D
Hey Jim, first off what you have done with your bike is just awesome! Iam thinking of getting a second bike and i keep coming back to the Bobber scout. My only gripe is that Indian still does not update the bike with TFT display . Do you know if Indian is planning on making a bobber with a TFT display?
Yo Jim, my bobber is in transit to the dealer right now. I see you run drag bars with the 1920 seat not sure if you’ve got risers on them. I’ve sat on a comfort seat and the riding position felt good, is the 1920 solo going to put me too high? I put the 1920 solo seat on with the regular stock bars for now just wanted to know if the seat was going to change my riding position much or not.
Hi Are you still posting? just upgraded to this bike too From 650 suz blvd Had to change bars to fit me, still struggling with turns In researching tires on this bike found your channel Could this really be? Or do I still need more time to adjust I’m a small woman but not weak, not the heavyness but maybe I need more push? So I am gonna start lifting weights? Lol 😅
My first bike was an SV650! 100% upgrading tires helped the bike lean into turns better! It could also be due to the bike having such a low center of gravity overall as well.
Got the new rounded tires- vrs the stock more square profile now it feels like starting over 🤣 I cant… now I am nervous feel like I m balancing on a tight rope compared to the original tires 🛞 yikes Any suggestions? Re watching your review and have researched and asked the dealership and another trusted shop and they all shaking their heads You seem to be the only one posted on this .. Guess it takes some getting used to as you commented when u made your first turn out of the lot.. I’m having trouble getting comfortable going straight 😅😅😅
@shaspaz going straight is the easy part! Check your tire pressures and make sure they aren't too high. Should be 36F/40R. If they are spot on maybe try lowering the rear to 38 so it feels a bit softer until your confidence increases.
I'm hoping they last longer, and my guess is they will. Just not sure by how much. I went through the oem Pirellis very quickly. Barely 5k miles on the rear and about 7k in the front iirc.
180/65. I just let my shop pick. I just looked and found out that the rear says touring and the front says cruiser lol. Not sure what the difference is.
Looks like biggest difference is slightly less aggressive tread pattern and increased mileage on the touring. Maybe I'm glad that one is on the rear lol
I'm sold on buying the bobber but , am gonna have to replace too many parts to make it right ! That's alot of money to spend plus the new bike , that's not Kool of Indian !
@@Jimbobbington hello Jim thank you for the UA-cam video on tyres , very informative , like your style , I have a 2022 Indian scout my first ride after getting of my sports bike , I thought jeez i not that bad of a rider , it wasn’t until I rode the scout I had to work hard to get this bike around tight corners , gave me a fright , the pirrelli night dragon scary in the wet , have taken your advice switching over to Michelin , thanks again from Australia kind regards Pete
Ironically before even watching this, I ordered those exact tires and will be putting them on tomorrow. It's fantastic to here how well they work!
Totally agree! I was at 3200 miles on the Kenda tires when I replaced them. Needless to say there was still plenty of life on them. I bought the Michelin Commander III Cruisers and WOW, night and day difference. Perform much better, stick to the road better. Absolutely love them!
Great to hear!
How is this possible.
@@etishbite456 tires are so important!
Are commander 2's just as good?
@@etishbite456 I think Commander 3s are just the newest version of the same tire. 2s will eventually no longer be in stock and 3 will be all you can get until there's a 4 lol. If you can get 2s, don't hesitate. I'm sure they're practically just as good.
Absolutely love your bobber - one of the best I've seen. Just installed the same tires on mine (after you). Man what a difference and look. So wanna do fender delete but I'm in love with my corbin. Great video brother.
I really appreciate that! Luckily I've never had a "comfortable" seat, so I just don't know what I'm missing! Haha
Yes I put 8000 miles on my stock 60 tires. Replaced them with cobra chromes and wow so much easier to handle and maneuver
I've also heard good things about those tires as well!
Interesting video. Michs are no doubt fine tires. I have a Mich 190/55 ZR17 at the rear of my '17 Yammy FZ-10 throwing out ~155/rwhp. The BHP is a useless figure unless every bike on the planet is tested using the exact same dyno and environment.
I've recently purchased a new 2022 Indy Rogue and has the stock Metzeler Cruisetec 150/80B16 77H at the rear and they're not "phenomenal" but sufficient enough to wrap myself around a tree or two at 125mph.
Ride safe.
Congrats on the new Rogue! Michelin also makes the best summer tires I've ever used on a car, the PS4S. They seem to know what they are doing.
Your bike has a very unique look, I really like it
Thank you so much!
Another great video. Subscribed! (Love the Lavender look, too...!) 💕
Thank you!
I noticed the exact same thing 30 seconds in and my first turn, night and day better better than the Kenda stock tires. Love the Commander III's on my Scout.
Awesome, such an improvement in input vs reaction
I went with Shinko 777 made a huge difference in all around handling!
I've heard good things about the Shinkos as well.
Just put on some Commander 3’s on my 16 Chief Dark Horse and dang those babies are incredible!
Right? I'm not sure if these ties are awesome or if the stock pirellis are just that bad
Felt Exactly the same way when I switched to the CruiseTecs 👍
Awesome! I assumed it wasn't just me or these specific tires.
@@Jimbobbington
I Freaked out too when the back tire slid about 3 inches and realized how low I was. These rounded tires just naturally lean it so it was something to get used to but absolutely love 'em now 🤙
I’m still running around on the Kendas. I just hate to buy tires to replace tires that are in good shape
Yeah, I'd never waste a set of tires. But from what I've heard, the Kendas are even worse than the Pirellis lol
@@Jimbobbington they suck. You gotta get them really hot for them to be ok.
Hey Jim....WOW!! I Now know what you're saying....before I ordered my Bobber I sat on both a standard Scout with the Street style tires and a Full blown Bobber ABS with the ATS Tires and noticed that the standard Scout with street tires was sooo much easier to move and steer on the Dealership floor ( Didn't test ride) but Noticed a huge difference which is of course the subject of your Video.
I too thought that it was the Smaller Engine, the Standard Mini ape bars and the lighter weight which made the steering differences between the two feel night & day !!!
NOW I KNOW It was the Tires!!!
BUT DAMN IT JIM....I HAVE A PROBLEM!!! PLEASE don't shake your head ok?? PROMISE???
MAN I LOVE....LOVE The Bad Ass Mean Aggressive Beefy Look of the Enduro style tires!!!! So much so my plan WAS....When the Michy's took a crap....to "UPGRADE" to the even more Aggressive Shinko Mobber ATS tires..... much like our Instagram friends Army Green Scout.... "701 Raptor" which eventually made my mind up on ordering my Scout Bobber!
Also...I do not ride long distance or highways any longer....but instead Do what the Bobber does best...CRUISE the Local scenic Jersey Shore roads...So Although I COMPLETELY Get what your saying and am even INTRIGUED a bit to chang to the Commander's when the time comes....theres that little guy on my shoulders telling me that I may not " Look" at my Bobber in the same way.
So Its gonna come down to what I WANT.... What is more important to me....Looks vs Sacrificing driveability.
Totally understandable! The knobby look is super cool in its own way, but you do sacrifice agility. I was simply surprised at the difference, but there's no wrong answer. Everything in life is about making some sort of sacrifice to get exactly what you want!
@@Jimbobbington Jim TOTALLY Agree....and THIS VIDEO was PERRECT Because The Agility of my Scout Bobber as compared to my Katana & CBR 600 of the past was SOOO Different....Feels soo much " Heavier".... and I was thinking/ presuming exactly as you were that it was because of the "Bobber" design....not realizing just how much Tires have . So Thanks....I have PLENTY of time to decide what my next tire choice will be....as I rack up the miles....what will become more important....the Looks...or the Practicality of performance..so chalk this video up to GENIUS on the " "Was this video helpful to you??" Rating !! 👍
@@Jimswholiestofcoleus really appreciate the feedback Jim! Worst case, you'll always need more tires and can change your mind every several thousand miles!
Hi Jim, I love your videos. Thank you for this information about tires. I think it’s going to be very helpful. I just recently purchased the scout twenty. It has the front and rear chunky tires. I’m thinking about changing the front to the rogue wheel possibly. For easier handling in corners. Also side question. What kind of gloves are you wearing in this video? I love them.
Sorry I haven't been active lately! Those gloves were from Fastmask but I think they are out of business now 😢
I'm Actually looking at them Commander III ,s stock size front and 180 /65 16 for the rear 😁👍
Do it! You won't regret it.
Hey! Love the content! What wheel did you throw on with the 180 rear, and do you have a video for that?
That is actually the OEM wheel. No change required. Though a 5.5" wide wheel would make the 180 look even better and technically be the proper fit.
91? Wow, I was expecting higher octane gas to be available. In my country gas is 95 and premium is 98.
That's probably because your fuel is measured in RON and US unleaded is measured differently. I believe 95 RON is similar to our 91 octane and 98 RON similar to 93 octane. They don't give us 93 octane in places at elevation for some reason. The claim is the extra octane is unnecessary at elevation for some reason. I live at ~6700 ft above sea level.
Goddamnit Jimbobbington, I still don't have the analog tach I ordered in February and now I have to worry about tires??! /facepalm I have those Pirelli's on my '22 Bobber and I can't put miles on it fast enough to warrant new tires.. Yet. 😒 Love your Vlogs. Bankruptcy, here I come! LOL :D
😄 I do what I can haha!
good info brother. I'll keep these in mind. $6.40 for 91 octane in San Diego right now :/
Ouch!
@@Jimbobbington right? Some places around town it's higher. Might see $7 soon. It's getting there
@@RickyBobber omg, my car barely gets 20 mpg. I couldn't live there!
Hey Jim, first off what you have done with your bike is just awesome! Iam thinking of getting a second bike and i keep coming back to the Bobber scout. My only gripe is that Indian still does not update the bike with TFT display . Do you know if Indian is planning on making a bobber with a TFT display?
Nothing I've heard of and no one has successfully tried to make the display from the Chief work that I've ever seen.
This comment aged well.
@@slaytanic921 haha it's awesome to hear that they now come with tft displays
I'm using Metzler Cruisetecs with a 180 on rear.
I'm very happy with the 180 to be honest. I no longer feel like I want a 240 kit, at least for now!
@@Jimbobbingtondid you have to do spacers or any mod to swing arm for 180’s? The 240 looks badass but rough cornering and more expensive
@@DeenoDice no sir, just slap a 180 on the stock wheel and go ride!
@@Jimbobbington thank you!
So did they give you a hard time because you wanted a bigger tire (180)?
Actually no, but I'm not sure the parts guy i spoke with was very knowledgeable lol
@@JimbobbingtonNice.... so classic lol
Okay okay okay. Stop yelling at me! I’ll get new tires! Haha
Man your bike looks and sounds amazing.
97 octane is $5.33 here right now.
You have 97? That sounds cheap. I remember buying 100 Oct like 10 years ago for over $6
Oh, I can feel it!
@@whipplbm lol
Yo Jim, my bobber is in transit to the dealer right now. I see you run drag bars with the 1920 seat not sure if you’ve got risers on them. I’ve sat on a comfort seat and the riding position felt good, is the 1920 solo going to put me too high? I put the 1920 solo seat on with the regular stock bars for now just wanted to know if the seat was going to change my riding position much or not.
I do not have risers on my drag bars. The 1920 seat does lift you up and forward a bit as compared to the basic seat, but I love it.
Hi
Are you still posting?
just upgraded to this bike too
From 650 suz blvd
Had to change bars to fit me, still struggling with turns
In researching tires on this bike found your channel
Could this really be? Or do I still need more time to adjust
I’m a small woman but not weak, not the heavyness but maybe I need more push?
So I am gonna start lifting weights? Lol
😅
My first bike was an SV650! 100% upgrading tires helped the bike lean into turns better! It could also be due to the bike having such a low center of gravity overall as well.
Got the new rounded tires- vrs the stock more square profile
now it feels like starting over 🤣 I cant… now I am nervous feel like I m balancing on a tight rope compared to the original tires 🛞 yikes
Any suggestions?
Re watching your review and have researched and asked the dealership and another trusted shop and they all shaking their heads
You seem to be the only one posted on this ..
Guess it takes some getting used to as you commented when u made your first turn out of the lot..
I’m having trouble getting comfortable going straight 😅😅😅
@shaspaz going straight is the easy part! Check your tire pressures and make sure they aren't too high. Should be 36F/40R. If they are spot on maybe try lowering the rear to 38 so it feels a bit softer until your confidence increases.
Hey Jim, what pressure are you running on your Commander III? I bought the same ones about a month ago
I still try to run the stock pressure which I believe is 36F 40R
@@Jimbobbington thanks for that. My rear just developed a leak and because they're not stock, I wasn't sure.
Do you think the Michelins will last as long at the pirellis or similar in longevity
I'm hoping they last longer, and my guess is they will. Just not sure by how much. I went through the oem Pirellis very quickly. Barely 5k miles on the rear and about 7k in the front iirc.
What ratio height did you go with on the rear and why that choice? And did you get the cruiser or touring tires since they do both?
180/65. I just let my shop pick. I just looked and found out that the rear says touring and the front says cruiser lol. Not sure what the difference is.
Looks like biggest difference is slightly less aggressive tread pattern and increased mileage on the touring. Maybe I'm glad that one is on the rear lol
1 question:
the rear tire 180* got up without tuning?
No need, Rolling diameter is very close to stock
180/60/16? Would this size fit?
I run a 180/65
I just want a big wheel kit, that fits under the stock fender 😟
Unfortunately, such a thing doesn't exist. Tank Machine makes a beautiful fender that's made to go with a 180 size like my tire.
I'm sold on buying the bobber but , am gonna have to replace too many parts to make it right ! That's alot of money to spend plus the new bike , that's not Kool of Indian !
Haha it's a pretty great bike to begin with. It's just hard to please people like us lol
What tire sizes?
The front is oem size, but rear is 180/65
Hey. Guys $2-05Lt Australia😅
Ouch!
@@Jimbobbington hello Jim thank you for the UA-cam video on tyres , very informative , like your style ,
I have a 2022 Indian scout my first ride after getting of my sports bike , I thought jeez i not that bad of a rider , it wasn’t until I rode the scout I had to work hard to get this bike around tight corners , gave me a fright , the pirrelli night dragon scary in the wet , have taken your advice switching over to Michelin , thanks again from Australia kind regards Pete
@@peterdriver9479 awesome! I hope it handles a bit better for you now!
😊thanks for sharing
How much did it cost if you don’t mind me asking
The tires? I don't honestly recall. It was more expensive than I was expecting lol. Maybe $700 or more installed for both?