@@Duke_of_Lorraine , ahhh, that explains why. And they used that extra 10 pop to play some Gladiator Games in the Colosseum with same Lion and Elephant Kings.
I know right I first thought Logistica was overpriced but noticed that without it, the cataphracts severly underperformed. How could we have known that it also gives extra bonus damage
@@MrDwarfpitcher That's always been my biggest gripe with aoe2. How is a kid supposed to figure out all of this stuff back in the day? When I was a kid, I didn't even know about elevation bonuses lmao.
With Logistica Elite Cataphracts kill Goth Halberdier in two hits since those don't get the last armor upgrade, so it can go a long way in specific situations
Sicilian War Elephants (or even Battle Elephants) seem like a big winner to me. Halbs absolutely shred Elephants due to bonus damage but those HP pools are massive.
Hey, me too haha... I don't know why that stuck out in this video more than ever before, but I think something about seeing the cataphract and cavalier side-by-side holding their swords in opposite hands made my subconscious brain uncomfortable haha... but in terms of game design, I suppose it does provide a possible way to quickly identify a cataphract vs a cavalier on the battlefield at a quick glance
I'd prefer watching them attack with the unit's back facing the target than this tho =( Southpaws should have been banned from the Bizantine Empire... lol
They are, aren't they... Wierd. I remember in the original game the knights would switch hands in which they held their swords and shields so that the shield always was towards the player/screen. I thought you just saw a cataphract riding towards the right side of the screen, but I checked, and they are consistantly left handed.
I believe SOTL or T90 said it, while SOTL knows a lot about the background mechanics of the game, he's an average player. He'd probably get crushed by the players of HC4 :'( But seeing him talk in a T90 steam would be pretty funny
Haha this is funny and i don't wanna be like cringe and like misunderstanding the joke, but technically the game is calculated on their servers not your computer...
Great vid, would love to see a vid going over all the cases of “trample” damage in the game (including elephants and Slav inf). I have no idea how far they can reach, and if there are any weird interactions.
The true story is that when NASA asked Stanley Kubrick to fake the moon landing, Kubrick wanted it so much to look real that he asked NASA to do it for real then shoot on location.
Yeah i mean obviously bill gates made it with his 5G reptilians that go around raping people. Those guys on facebook are so genuine and they care about us, not about their bank account.
Cataphract light performance for the price of one chevalier upgrade looks like a good deal compared to the insane cost stack that is elite Cataphracts with Logistica.
also remember that logistica is in effect as soon as you are fighting in groups larget than 1v1. Essentially logistica in fights of more than 3v3 units adds 10dmg per hit on top of their base attack, which is quite nuts when you think about it.
still a same thing. anti-cavalry armor means negate damage from anti cavalry damage output. "anti anti-cavalry" armor means an armor which came from unit that had resistance to anti-cavalry bonus damage. not a big deal
@@arcan762 ACtually, a mix of cataphracts and Paladins is best combo vs archers. Some archers will target paladins, taking some hits off of the cataphracts.. then once they get in melee range, archers health is no match for byzantines trample damage. Usually if you tech into Byzantines Cataphracts (unless you are playing vs a civ who doesn't get cav) you must also tech into another stable unit to deal with other horses, which is paladin (more than just other horses, so more uses) and camels. Usually standard unit comp for byzantine's is Trash units + camels/paladin + Cataphract + a siege unit. Very good civ honestly
@@arcan762 true that palas do have more peirce armor than a Cata's but with more damage from Cata Trample Damage affecting groups once Cata's get into it they are taking out more faster than reg Palas.
Well the most simple reason for superiority of Cataphracts is: 1. It is a Paladin equivalent by definition, not a Cavalier equivalent. 2. It is produced from Castles. 3. It costs a ton to upgrade. 4. It is meant to have a different counter, just like Champions.
@@acentialpapd9418 Same man. I also played Barbrossa 6 again and again as a child. And my love for AOE2 sparked a love for history and for my intrests in Iranian and Indian history goes to Thicc boys
Here's an idea for a new video: Sicillian Condottiero vs all those units that got anti-Condottiero damage to offset their anti-infantry resistance to HC.
I love this, as soon as you started explaining it I was like "Oh yeah of course, that's genuinely really interesting, I actually would very much like to know what the results are" Which is all your fault to begin with, I used to be content with being a decidedly mediocre AOE II player before you showed up with all your interesting and insightful videos. I blame you.
Hey, Spirit of the law, thanks for the content you share ! I ve been wondering for a long time : do the formations have a real impact in battle ? (Exept splits vs onagers) Keep up the good work !
Uhh, Do you do Fusion 360 tutorials, too? Your voice, high quality videos, clear explanations, and the ability to understand and describe math concepts is outstanding (in both cases?)
Fun fact: at 6:25 you can see how the cavalier attacks with his right hand, and the cataphract with his left hand, despite both holding the sword in their left hand, on their profile picture
"Big thanks to patrons... and ILickToesAtNight, which I thought was a bit of an odd name at first, until I realized, they're a cat. So, that totally checks out." SotL MVP... answering the real hard-hitting questions for us
Honestly I have so many questions about the conversion rules. For example, what if I convert a goth barracks? Does it work faster? Can I train huskarls? Really I guess the difference is whether the bonus is applied as a global thing in post or assigned to each unit and stored there
4:20 - Forget the theoretical Sicilian cataphract, what about the Sicilian condottiero? Although doing the maths I think that only makes a difference in the Condo v Cannon galleon matchup. No other gunpowder unit has more than +10 vs infantry.
Have you done a video about absolute population effectiveness? I feel an examination of paladins for generic civs vs cataphracts, vs war elephants would be an interesting analysis for you to tackle.
I'd love to see an analysis which explains how 1 of 2 identical units fighting each other wins and the other dies. Like a 2 scouts fighting in 1v1... is it pure RNG? Or is the outcome predetermined? Does the game's internal clock favour one player at certain time? I did some basic testing and if for example 10 blue scouts fought 10 red scouts, all of the red scouts won. Same applies to any other units (champions vs champions etc.). Another testing round it's the blue color that won... I can do more testing myself, but I'd love Spirit Of The Law to do it and share results with us ^^
@@niksutliff I've seen many of those videos, but I probably didn't explain myself well. For example 10 groups of units fighting 1vs1 have the same outcome at certain time. 10 blue scouts die, 10 red scouts survive with 3 HP etc.
IIRC, it used to be determined by player position in the lobby. Lobby host had engine priority. Applied not only to first strikes but also unit pathing for the purposes of blocking. DE has tinkered with this several times now to remove the manipulable element of lobby position. Based on your testing, it seems likely that the game just randomizes priority at the start of a match.
Spirit of the law: MATH MATH MATH me, a third grader, who doesn't understand all the math, but knows the main idea: Cataphracts reign supreme Edit: Why did this blow up?
It's things like this that make me think that units should have an attack speed stat clearly visible, and to have unit upgrades include describing changes to their attack speed.
2:06 doesn't the 25% only apply to base attack and not bonus damage as well. So instead the order for the halberdier would go 10 X 1.25 = 12.5 (base) - 5 = 7.5 (armour) + 16 = 23.5 (bonus)
Could you make a video about the best timing to add trade in late game? How much gold should be left to mine, to sustain military production and still keep producing trade carts? Would be an interesting topic i think
Holy crap, what a clash of the titans. It's good to know though that in the end, cataphracts still reign supreme over the cavaliers. I think if the Sicilian cavaliers had been equal or greater than the cataphracts, it would have definitely be a big reason to nerf
Remember that both Civs are descendents from Rome, i wonder if the Roman empire Somehow gets added they would have a shitton of Damage Reduction and bonus damage
Yes, but it cannot be claimed that the people of Southern Italy are either Scandinavian or French, just like it can't be said that British people are Italians because they were in the Roman empire. Normans in Sicily adopted local customs in a flash and were known by their Italian or italianised names.
Isn't the Elite Cataphract's damage against infantry 16 not 12? I thought Cata was 12 and Elite Cata 16. I respect your vast knowledge just heard conflicting info.
Wait, Age of Empires 2 is a historical strategy game based on real life. And notice how every AoE2 map isn’t a globe but a 2D flat square with an edge. Flat Earth confirmed. Take that globeheads!
There should be a mode/Mod where you can create your own perfect Civilization by choosing: - The Civ (Bonuses and Techtree) - The Elite Unit - The Castle Age Unique Technology - The Imperial Unique Technology - The Team Bonus Should be pretty fun! Did i forget sth?
Hey! Congratulations for your videos, they´re fantastic... I was wondering if there are scenarios where we could use game theory in our favour... and especially, would you do a video about that? Thank youu
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Legend holds that a 500 pop 8 player match on Ludakris Sicilians vs Byzantines was the real cause of Rome's fall.
what really caused the game to go over the edge was one player picking the Goths, with the +10 population limit.
@@Duke_of_Lorraine , ahhh, that explains why. And they used that extra 10 pop to play some Gladiator Games in the Colosseum with same Lion and Elephant Kings.
Having to calculate damage outputs is what drove Roman emperors to madness
Weren't the sicilians romans back then?
@@niki8280 the Vandals took over Sicily at some point
I was today years old when I learned that Logistica adds another +6 damage vs infantry as well as trample damage.
I know right
I first thought Logistica was overpriced but noticed that without it, the cataphracts severly underperformed.
How could we have known that it also gives extra bonus damage
@@MrDwarfpitcher That's always been my biggest gripe with aoe2. How is a kid supposed to figure out all of this stuff back in the day? When I was a kid, I didn't even know about elevation bonuses lmao.
@@ericdunn9001 I don't think it was designed for kids... 10 year old me was shit at AOE2
With Logistica Elite Cataphracts kill Goth Halberdier in two hits since those don't get the last armor upgrade, so it can go a long way in specific situations
When I was ten, I thought that trample damage applied when they where moving through enemy units. The description in the manual was very misleading
On the dispute between Cataphracts and Sicilian Cavaliers, Cataphracts should always win because they look cooler.
Other way around :P
Hey, what happened to the Knight and Paladin?
@@michaelandreipalon359 there is not sicilian paladin but would have been fun to compare non elite cata with the sicilian knight
I wouldn't bet against a Sicilian when death is on the line
I agree @Betrer Olthorion
"Cataphracts: negating your attack bonuses since 1999."
- Spirit of the Law, 2016
Actually, since 2000 (AoC)
@@sauravtripathi4128 well I’ve now learnt something else new today, thanks for that haha
@@sauravtripathi4128 Byzantines are one of the original civs from AoK though.
@@RusskiBlusski Yes, but the bonus defense was only added in AoC.
@@BoazMoerman I see, TIL I guess.
that would be an interesting topic for a video : "Most broken conversions if civ bonuses applied to converted units"
Seconded
Sicilian War Elephants (or even Battle Elephants) seem like a big winner to me. Halbs absolutely shred Elephants due to bonus damage but those HP pools are massive.
@@stalinbulldog Sadly they still don't get heresy, so yeah still easily countered by monks.
Frankish elite war elephant.
Not the most broken but 11 range Briton rattan archers sound annoying AF to deal with.
Tell us SOTL - did you use this for your thesis? We’ll be disappointed if AOE2 is not part of your thesis
What is he studying?
@@tutas7373 I need to know
@@tutas7373 Maths
@@joaquinreisin9372 It's either that or statistics.
I am sure they gave him his Math degree if they watch his videos :)
I never noticed that cataphracts are left handed
Hey, me too haha... I don't know why that stuck out in this video more than ever before, but I think something about seeing the cataphract and cavalier side-by-side holding their swords in opposite hands made my subconscious brain uncomfortable haha... but in terms of game design, I suppose it does provide a possible way to quickly identify a cataphract vs a cavalier on the battlefield at a quick glance
I'd prefer watching them attack with the unit's back facing the target than this tho =(
Southpaws should have been banned from the Bizantine Empire... lol
@
Eric P dos Santos that is why left handed people live shorter lives
They are, aren't they... Wierd. I remember in the original game the knights would switch hands in which they held their swords and shields so that the shield always was towards the player/screen. I thought you just saw a cataphract riding towards the right side of the screen, but I checked, and they are consistantly left handed.
cool to see some southpaw representation
The Byzantines made a classic blunder tho! Never go against a Sicilian when death is on the line!
Do I have to put the laughs and the silence again?!
I see you are a man of culture aswell
Flaming camel with +50 bonus damage vs cavalry forgotten again ... :(
Haha a fine point, for the 3 people that have tried to make them work, they’ll never succeed against Sicilians...
Never go against a Sicilian when death is on the line!
Hey Spirit Of The Law, Guys Here.
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If Spirit of the Law is not awarded an honorary spot in Hidden Cup 4, then I'M NOT WATCHING GOSH DANGIT
As an analyst?
I hope he would co-cast a game or two with T90
Spirit of the law should be a hero name, he is a hero to us all! *salute*
I believe SOTL or T90 said it, while SOTL knows a lot about the background mechanics of the game, he's an average player.
He'd probably get crushed by the players of HC4 :'(
But seeing him talk in a T90 steam would be pretty funny
He should in fact be recognized as a hero of Age fo empires 2.
Cataphracts and Sicilian Halberdeirs fighting
My pc: So you have chosen.. Death.
Haha this is funny and i don't wanna be like cringe and like misunderstanding the joke, but technically the game is calculated on their servers not your computer...
@@jorrynmacris9824 Not on Skirmishes... And before DE2, online games were hosted by a player, not run on a server...
Yeah, there's a reason my desktop tanked.
Watching the lone Cataphract shred the pikemen is just the best x))
it had boosted HP
Still just as glorious even with the boosted health
Why has it taken me this long to find your channel? I'm offended youtube hasn't sent me here sooner. This is the channel I never knew I needed.
While this was interesting, the most interesting thing I noticed from this video was that camels are much taller than the horse-mounted units.
Camels are taller than horses...
Yeah irl camels are huge
Camels are bigger than all but the largest of draft horses
Great vid, would love to see a vid going over all the cases of “trample” damage in the game (including elephants and Slav inf). I have no idea how far they can reach, and if there are any weird interactions.
"NEVER GO IN AGAINST A SICILIAN WHEN DEATH IS ON THE LINE HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!" (Falls over and dies.)
7:25 did anyone else think that the camels look massive compared to the other units
They tower over the dunes - it's why they're called the galleons of the desert... maybe, or maybe it's for that other reason.
Camels are way larger and taller than horses, so basically it is that.
@@metalisamp189 this
congratulations on 300 thousand subscribers big dog, you earned it
man, I don't even play this game anymore, I barely played it to begin with, but I keep coming back to these videos. Just a chill bunch of numbers
SotL still believes in the moon. What a sheep
The true story is that when NASA asked Stanley Kubrick to fake the moon landing, Kubrick wanted it so much to look real that he asked NASA to do it for real then shoot on location.
I don't even believe you're real.
@@Duke_of_Lorraine no, no, they built the soundstage in outer space to make it look more real, and now it orbits the earth.
The Moon was faked by Sumerian priests so they could invent another deity and get more donations
Yeah i mean obviously bill gates made it with his 5G reptilians that go around raping people. Those guys on facebook are so genuine and they care about us, not about their bank account.
just today i completed Bari campaign and wanted to do some research on the unic unit, and just today you post the right video
Cataphract light performance for the price of one chevalier upgrade looks like a good deal compared to the insane cost stack that is elite Cataphracts with Logistica.
Luckily on a recent patch the costs for both elite cataphract and logistica were reduced some
The most math intensive video on this channel, ever. . .
Even though Don't like math, except when it comes to games
You must have forgotten the wheelbarrow and handcart videos
You must be new here
You haven't heard about the video about the lone villager chopping the wood of the whole map.
@@AlessAbreu I must be new here because I am here since Chinese overview 😒
@@lagg1e Sometimes I fall asleep while listening it 😬
You have been waiting for this matchup your whole life! :D
hey spirit, i congratulate you for 300k members. The aoe2 community owes you, because of your efforts.
Congrats on 300k
Sicilian cataphracts: the perfect counter to samurais and mameluks.
No logistica, so they're worse against karambit warriors though.
At least now they could enjoy eating cannoli and panelle!!
Not like they *need* logistica to be effective vs karambit coin
also remember that logistica is in effect as soon as you are fighting in groups larget than 1v1. Essentially logistica in fights of more than 3v3 units adds 10dmg per hit on top of their base attack, which is quite nuts when you think about it.
"ILickToesAtNight". Made my day. Awesome video, as always! Keep up the good work!
4:25 You mean the remaining 16 is negated by Cataphract's "anti anti-cavalry" armor. Not anti-cavalry armor.
Yeah I was confused too
you mean, "anti anti-cavalry cavalry" armor?
While I see your point, it is also called melee-armor and not anti melee-armor ;)
still a same thing. anti-cavalry armor means negate damage from anti cavalry damage output. "anti anti-cavalry" armor means an armor which came from unit that had resistance to anti-cavalry bonus damage. not a big deal
ILickToesAtNight is such a good cat name lol
I think that's T90's cat... He just told a story on stream about his cat licking his toes.
That's a weird name for a cat.
Now all we need is to give Byz Cata's Bloodlines, please!
And they’ll be unstoppable, remember they also have paladin...
Question is what would be a bigger buff to byzantines bloodlines or blast furnace?
@@luggy9256 Bloodlines would def be a better buff! What byz player uses Paladins instead of Cata's anyway?
@@Badboyben1422 Depends what they are up against. Paladins do MUCH better vs mass archers than Cataphracts
@@arcan762 ACtually, a mix of cataphracts and Paladins is best combo vs archers. Some archers will target paladins, taking some hits off of the cataphracts.. then once they get in melee range, archers health is no match for byzantines trample damage. Usually if you tech into Byzantines Cataphracts (unless you are playing vs a civ who doesn't get cav) you must also tech into another stable unit to deal with other horses, which is paladin (more than just other horses, so more uses) and camels. Usually standard unit comp for byzantine's is Trash units + camels/paladin + Cataphract + a siege unit. Very good civ honestly
@@arcan762 true that palas do have more peirce armor than a Cata's but with more damage from Cata Trample Damage affecting groups once Cata's get into it they are taking out more faster than reg Palas.
Literally listen to you every morning on the way to work so I can be prepared for when I get home 😂
Well the most simple reason for superiority of Cataphracts is:
1. It is a Paladin equivalent by definition, not a Cavalier equivalent.
2. It is produced from Castles.
3. It costs a ton to upgrade.
4. It is meant to have a different counter, just like Champions.
What counter? Cataphracts don't really have one lol
@@stephencarroll4681 anti infantry units and archers, ironically
Heavy cavalry also does okay, if you have access to paladins. Cavalry archer does well with kiting
Paladins stomp cataphracts tho, and elephants
300k subs congratz manh really love your content
I don't even play AoE2 but your videos are fun to watch/listen to
Jean Paul been an OG patreon man. Respect
the Byzantines were everyone's first love in age! and the years go by and they are still the best civilization!! ✌🏻❤️🇦🇷
No, Japanese are the first love.
Dude Mongols were my first love by far.
Nah the Persians are the first love with dem thicc boys.
@@dogeofgreatness2222 dat true too , when I realised they have a 600 hp 24 attack unit I played Barbarossa 6 only to convert these boys
@@acentialpapd9418
Same man. I also played Barbrossa 6 again and again as a child. And my love for AOE2 sparked a love for history and for my intrests in Iranian and Indian history goes to Thicc boys
Imagine by an accident finding the video 10 seconds after going public, and finding there are already two comments, from hours ago, down there smh.
Patreon.
Is ILickToesAtNight also a lawyer? If they are, they might suspiciously claim not to be a cat.
As complicated as the relationship between the Eastern Roman Empire and Sicily
The Great Alexios vs the sly Robert Guiscard!
I swear, you're one of the funniest youtubers around.
Here's an idea for a new video: Sicillian Condottiero vs all those units that got anti-Condottiero damage to offset their anti-infantry resistance to HC.
Just noticed:
Congrats to 300k subs :)
I love this, as soon as you started explaining it I was like "Oh yeah of course, that's genuinely really interesting, I actually would very much like to know what the results are"
Which is all your fault to begin with, I used to be content with being a decidedly mediocre AOE II player before you showed up with all your interesting and insightful videos. I blame you.
SoL new video, stop everything, press like and watch a piece of art, never get enough of your videos
Thanks lot
Does the sicilian bonus also protect against the coustillier's charge ?
I've been wondering the same thing
No. Because coustillier no longer does bonus damage to archer or anyone after February hotfix
@@ChewingGumFlavor they’re wondering if the charge itself counts as bonus damage, but I’m going to assume no...
@@luggy9256 yeah, I would guess so too, since bonus damage is usually not shown in unit stats
No they don't Coustillier attack is not a bonus damage. It is taken like forging. It is added in the stats. So it is not negated
Hey, Spirit of the law, thanks for the content you share !
I ve been wondering for a long time : do the formations have a real impact in battle ? (Exept splits vs onagers)
Keep up the good work !
I've never played Age of Empires and am never going to but those videos are very fun to watch.
Uhh, Do you do Fusion 360 tutorials, too? Your voice, high quality videos, clear explanations, and the ability to understand and describe math concepts is outstanding (in both cases?)
Great video. Given the timeline we are currently in, I would not be surprised if a cat was a master AoE2 player. 😁
Thanks. I’ve found myself more interested in exploring the game than playing it lately.
Fun fact: at 6:25 you can see how the cavalier attacks with his right hand, and the cataphract with his left hand, despite both holding the sword in their left hand, on their profile picture
Spirit of the Law videos are good for mental health.
Was wondering, what about a video ranking the civs castles/towers? Keep those samurais runnin, spirit!
That joke about the moon landings is hilarious! Please work that into your intro!
"Big thanks to patrons... and ILickToesAtNight, which I thought was a bit of an odd name at first, until I realized, they're a cat. So, that totally checks out."
SotL MVP... answering the real hard-hitting questions for us
did i just watch that aztec monk turn into a european one when it picked up the relic?
Honestly I have so many questions about the conversion rules. For example, what if I convert a goth barracks? Does it work faster? Can I train huskarls? Really I guess the difference is whether the bonus is applied as a global thing in post or assigned to each unit and stored there
I barely understand any of this and it’s such a good watch
seriously, bout that funny intro and the logic of silician vs a unique cancer, it was a good reason to see why people pick silicans tbh
Hello Spirit ur vids are nice
You really know your math, man. Congratulations.
Yay. I can't wait for your Civ overview, and then they will patch the game and change it immediately after you release your video.
Huh, answers to questions i didn't know i had. I wonder what the most complex in a standard game, matchup could be, if it's not this?
We need a video on those broken conversion stats that you talked about too...!😄
I learned more here than in some of my real classes 😂
Thank you spirit for answering this. I was curious if everyone’s favorite 1999 unique unit competes in 2021.
Although as someone else pointed out in another comment, cataphracts didn’t get their resistance or logistica till 2000
Please, more videos on Byzantines and Cataphracts! Maybe a Byzantine strategy video? PLSSSSS!
I wish Cataphracts were more viable so we could see them on Pro play more often! :D
Sort of agree, although I think they have their place in the game already. Love the Byzantines.
What about Condottieri? An Italians ally can give them to anybody they want...
4:20 - Forget the theoretical Sicilian cataphract, what about the Sicilian condottiero?
Although doing the maths I think that only makes a difference in the Condo v Cannon galleon matchup. No other gunpowder unit has more than +10 vs infantry.
In this video, only two units actually fight. The video is eight minutes long, and that is very good.
Have you done a video about absolute population effectiveness? I feel an examination of paladins for generic civs vs cataphracts, vs war elephants would be an interesting analysis for you to tackle.
300k, nice man.
I know I asked last time but I'd also be interested in an arambai comparison from last patch to this one.
I'd love to see an analysis which explains how 1 of 2 identical units fighting each other wins and the other dies.
Like a 2 scouts fighting in 1v1... is it pure RNG? Or is the outcome predetermined? Does the game's internal clock favour one player at certain time?
I did some basic testing and if for example 10 blue scouts fought 10 red scouts, all of the red scouts won. Same applies to any other units (champions vs champions etc.).
Another testing round it's the blue color that won... I can do more testing myself, but I'd love Spirit Of The Law to do it and share results with us ^^
MikeEmpires has a series on all units vs unique units, generic, etc
@@niksutliff I've seen many of those videos, but I probably didn't explain myself well. For example 10 groups of units fighting 1vs1 have the same outcome at certain time. 10 blue scouts die, 10 red scouts survive with 3 HP etc.
IIRC, it used to be determined by player position in the lobby. Lobby host had engine priority. Applied not only to first strikes but also unit pathing for the purposes of blocking.
DE has tinkered with this several times now to remove the manipulable element of lobby position. Based on your testing, it seems likely that the game just randomizes priority at the start of a match.
Been playing AOE2 since it came out and only learned what exactly trample damage is today
'You'll find in Age of Empires 2' assuming we'll ever crunch those numbers with a gem like you walking around
Joker: "This is what happens when an unstoppable force meets an immovable object."
Spirit of the law: MATH MATH MATH
me, a third grader, who doesn't understand all the math, but knows the main idea: Cataphracts reign supreme
Edit: Why did this blow up?
Ok
@@Usuario459 yesssssss
Then you're on a very wholesome and good Channel.
@@HandsomeGamerGuy , oh yes, defiantly, without he's videos, I have no idea how I would survive under intense quarantine pressure.
No complex math here? Only divisions but that should be in 3th grade
I've been playing aoe 2 since original release and had no idea elevation bonus was a thing...this is why i stick to single player.
There seem to be quite a few left handed units in AOE2 (at least both Cataphracts and Halbs)
It's things like this that make me think that units should have an attack speed stat clearly visible, and to have unit upgrades include describing changes to their attack speed.
nice update :) very interesting
"I lick toes at night"
-Spirit of the Toes, 2021
Aren't we going to talk about the instant monk metamorphosis in 3:23?
Aren't there sprite for the american monk carrying a relic?
The Cavalier is one of my fav models from the game.
2:06 doesn't the 25% only apply to base attack and not bonus damage as well. So instead the order for the halberdier would go
10 X 1.25 = 12.5 (base)
- 5 = 7.5 (armour)
+ 16 = 23.5 (bonus)
Could you make a video about the best timing to add trade in late game? How much gold should be left to mine, to sustain military production and still keep producing trade carts? Would be an interesting topic i think
I totally understood everything senpai said. Totally.
Holy crap, what a clash of the titans. It's good to know though that in the end, cataphracts still reign supreme over the cavaliers. I think if the Sicilian cavaliers had been equal or greater than the cataphracts, it would have definitely be a big reason to nerf
Remember that both Civs are descendents from Rome, i wonder if the Roman empire Somehow gets added they would have a shitton of Damage Reduction and bonus damage
Byz IS Rome, they were literally called Basileia Rhomaion (Roman Empire). Byzantine Empire is a modern (less than 200 years old) nomenclature.
@@supermaster2012 By Rome i mean its western part who fell. Thanks for the facts tho
In game Sicilians are Normans, migrated down there from France though.
Sicilians civ, represent the Norman rule of Sicily tho.
Yes, but it cannot be claimed that the people of Southern Italy are either Scandinavian or French, just like it can't be said that British people are Italians because they were in the Roman empire.
Normans in Sicily adopted local customs in a flash and were known by their Italian or italianised names.
Isn't the Elite Cataphract's damage against infantry 16 not 12? I thought Cata was 12 and Elite Cata 16. I respect your vast knowledge just heard conflicting info.
Huzzah! Spirit of the Math strikes again!
Wait, Age of Empires 2 is a historical strategy game based on real life. And notice how every AoE2 map isn’t a globe but a 2D flat square with an edge.
Flat Earth confirmed. Take that globeheads!
Analycist
So, why isn't any1 falling off the edges? :/
Not a square dimwit, a rhombus.
SOTL I would love to see a video of of some really broken Civ Bonus, Unit and Tech combos, if that is possible.
There should be a mode/Mod where you can create your own perfect Civilization by choosing:
- The Civ (Bonuses and Techtree)
- The Elite Unit
- The Castle Age Unique Technology
- The Imperial Unique Technology
- The Team Bonus
Should be pretty fun!
Did i forget sth?
well, there is now
Is it just me or are the orange halberdiers attacking faster than the red ones (especially in the single cata- cavalier side by side)?
Hey! Congratulations for your videos, they´re fantastic... I was wondering if there are scenarios where we could use game theory in our favour... and especially, would you do a video about that? Thank youu