Loving every one of these. The algorithm tossed me your way after watching your old channel Dead Rising guides of all things, and I fell happily down an FFV rabbit hole. Can't wait to see what comes next.
Hands down funniest video so far. Never thought I'd hear you pleading for a Berserker's damage to save you. The Adamantoise fight was ridiculous, not just hitting with butter knives but cheap plastic ones at that. It's interesting that this run was pretty much the polar opposite of the Red Mage one. Red Mage is only strong for the middle portion of the game and Bard struggles terribly through the middle until you get the better weapons in the end.
I just got the 100% achievement in FF5 last night, been playing it casually over the past couple months and man I was ready for it to be over with... Can't imagine how Wes feels about FF5 after this playlist is complete
@@sertiana2512 that's not why elixirs are so infrequently used. They're not used because "maybe I'll need them for a later fight" being said all the way upto the final boss. FF meming at its finest
@@sertiana2512 and yet, without fail, there's the stockpile of elixirs you've gotten since the start of the game (in ff6 for instance the very first item you can get in the game is an elixir from the clock before meeting Locke), and the number hasn't gone down at all
It may not be necessary to know now since you got through one of the hardest classes (though Adamantoise will be hard for White Mage too, I imagine) but here's a little insight into the damage formula. There are three things multiplied in the formula to determine your damage: effective attack, level, and strength/magic. (This is then divided by a high number to get it into a reasonable range). But the key here is "effective" attack. The enemy's defense is subtracted from your attack. So for Mage Masher's (31 attack) vs. Adamantoise (24 defense), you only have 6 effective attack. Grinding levels does not change that at all, it only will occasionally, at certain levels, add another 6 to the damage. I saw you hadn't equipped the Main Gauche, which would've given you an effective attack of 11. Would that have made it easy? No. But that's nearly double the damage output for whoever is wielding that dagger.
Sometimes you were saying "Bards" but I was hearing "Bartz" and I was very confused! "Bartz wore down the first flamethrowers relatively painlessly" - what about everyone else?!
Also download them! Just downloading a video gives it 100% watch time, even if you immediately delete it after the download finishes. Or at least it did last year, not sure if the 'sleepy time playlist' meta shift broke that, but as a fellow premium watcher it can't hurt to help.
Bard is genuinely an S tier job as long as you have basically any other job along. Bards and Berserkers together hilariously outclass either alone in single class challenges
Finally caught up with this series! Amazing work Wes, looking forward to the other classes, I'm especially curious to see what Geomancer and Chemist will be like, but I'll watch everything else too.
I know this took you forever, but i am so glad that these keep coming. I don't even PLAY FF5! The commentary, strategy and well... EVERYTHING has been great in this series!
White mage is going to break your soul. Im doing a 4 whm run and uhhh yeah 2nd world has been an absolutely brutal hell. Can't wait to see you "enjoy" this misery.
As frustrating as berserker surely was, this one looks even worse. Mostly because yeah, you're in control but you're so weak you still can't do much of anything...
So, between Berserker and Bard, the 2 worst jobs, kind of go opposite ways. Bards were terrible while Berserkers were pretty good first world, but they flipflop by world 3 because at least Bards can use items and get the chicken knife.
This was always gonna be a rough one. I knew Thief and White Mage were rough starts, and then Bard comes along to replicate those starts partway through World 1. I don't know why but Red Dragons are undead. Requiem ought to have been viable, though I've never tried it. When the antlion fight goes bad, it goes real bad. I've been stuck in there a while myself. Five Giga Flares. What does one even say? I guess that I never knew !Hide had _any_ utility. This was silly and I enjoyed it! Thanks for giving Apollo's Harp a shot, possibly the least appreciated sealed weapon. I never take the Chicken Knife because who _wants_ to grind escaping for an hour? Thank you for suffering for our entertainment.
I like that the chicken knife exists, but man, I hate using it. It's more tolerable on like Ninja or Thief since you can just auto-escape but it still feels awful every time.
Bards are a powerful class. They can make Drakenvale, the Pyramid and the Trench very easy thanks to Requiem. Also being able to stop or confuse enemies at will is great. But more than one in a party is redundant.
@@ThePageofRageFF5 White Mage only is HARD. Using the Flail (and there's only one of them) would be their only source of damage for very, very long time.
Sing is a really, really underrated command, even in World 1. Bard's stats and equipment are rough though. Once you learn Sing, there is no reason to stay a Bard.
Zombie one with the apollo harp and reflect ring and have the a second character hide... the zombie will attack self but bounce the harp damage to Omniscient
So... Is freelancer considered one of the Jobs in question? Will we get the Freelancer only finale? (I'm sorry if you weren't planning on this and now feel compelled to 😅)
@@BacklogBuster I wonder if it'd even be worth separating them into different uploads considering Mime isn't even accessible until after the Fork Tower...
The thing with bard is it is a FANTASTIC support job class with some of the most broken support you have access to by the 3rd world. Damage to undead enemies, extra speed attack and FREAKING LEVEL and romeo's ballad is actually really good and able to cheese tons of bosses, including omega! The problem? They suck at attacking. Literally sneeze on these dudes and they go down. They attack like the force of wet tissue paper on a 1998 honda civic. Even the best harp in the game is situational. Bards only is a massive pain. Bards and literally any other job combined (or even in the 4 job fiesta)? Good. Congrats on having patience of legendary status, wes Edit: Omnicient is actually susceptible to stop. So you could have used Romeo's ballad to stop him and then slam on the chicken knife.
Huh... I didn't think it would be possible to complete only as bards. On top of that, their levels were lower than I expected. I was expecting level 80 at least.
The Red Dragons in Ex-Death’s castle are undead. Spamming the Bard’s Requiem song would have made pretty short work of them. Sadly, they are the only undead dragon. This would not have worked on the Yellow or Blue Dragons, but it would have taken care of the Reds. Thank you for these videos!
@@BacklogBusterYou still have the White Mage job to do, right? You might be tempted to Cure3 your way out of that one, but it always seems to miss when I try it. Cure2 hits for around 500 damage, though. This is at Level 31, by the way. And the Time Mage as well as the White Mage can hit it with the healing staff. Phoenix downs and Elixirs likewise always seem to miss when I try to use them on Red Dragons, but potions and high potions will damage them, so the Chemist will be able to do a reliable 1000 damage per high potion. At the moment, I cannot test any of this on the Pixel Remaster version. Really enjoying your videos on these solo job challenges. Looking forward to the rest!
I love how many people don't realize how many enemies are able to be stopped with brd in this game. 😂 Nearly everything in the game can be stopped with Romeo's inclusing a certain super boss.
Suddenly, I'm looking forward to mime only. Since mimes improve based on other classes you've completed, they'll probably stink on their own. At least they have good equipment options.
!Sing could have been a halfway decent supporting ability for your support classes. The problem is, most of the actually useful supportive abilities are all hard-locked behind World 3. Hero's Rime being behind World 3 at least makes sense, but Mana Peaen and Sinewy Etude would've been better off in World 2, and Swift Song would've been better off in World 1. Of course, none of this solves the Adamantoise problem, because at the end of the day, Bards still need better stats and a better equipment selection. (Lamia's Tiara is nice for Sword Dance procs, but I would've much rather taken the Strength gear from Kelb instead) You say you may behind the worst of it all, but I can't wait to see Thief and Geomancer. Thief is similarly bad but without the utility Bards have, and Geomancers are frustratingly annoying for a different reason.
@@BacklogBusterYou'll basically need the same as Bards did. Gaia is a highly unreliable technique as it randomly selects an attack based on the terrain you use it in. In the case of Soul Cannon you'll only have access to Wind Based attacks to which the Cannon is Immune. And you don't even become Overpowered by the end of the game because Gaia's damage falls off hard. And Bells are absolutely horrid weapon. The benefit of Geomancer's is that they have decent Magic Stat (they can't pass it to anyone) making them good for throwing Ninja Scrolls if you absolutely have no other choice.
Worst case scenario, could chance an instadeath proc chance from Assassin's Dagger on the gigaflare turn. It's 1/3 chance so it's far from reliable, but it beats walking all the way out of the rift to recharge the lamp.
Pretty sure you could have finished Omega though it would take some time. By staggering Two Romeo's Ballads you can basically immobilize Omega while the third Bard uses Swift song. After a while a single Bard would be able to hold Omega stopped at which point you can boost the attack using Sinewy Etude. Slowly and steadily you'd murder Omega with a Chicken Knife.
The spirit of a thousand, thousand spoony bards cried out in fear. . .
Best thing about bard? It can stunlock omega. Yes. Romeo's Ballad works!
Eat that, killer robot!
Omega: Play the best song in the world, or I'll eat your soul.
the poetry of "while 1, malloc 1000" it breaks any bot
Bartzholomew, Leannaria, Farissimo, Galufiorotti...
Loving every one of these. The algorithm tossed me your way after watching your old channel Dead Rising guides of all things, and I fell happily down an FFV rabbit hole. Can't wait to see what comes next.
What a shock, the Bard video is your longest one yet in the series. I’m completely flabbergasted. Dumbfounded even.
"Nothing can be as bad as those". White Mage says "Hold my flail"
Hands down funniest video so far. Never thought I'd hear you pleading for a Berserker's damage to save you. The Adamantoise fight was ridiculous, not just hitting with butter knives but cheap plastic ones at that. It's interesting that this run was pretty much the polar opposite of the Red Mage one. Red Mage is only strong for the middle portion of the game and Bard struggles terribly through the middle until you get the better weapons in the end.
In PR at least, Red Mage still manage to deal decent damage with rod breaking.
W000000 bard time! A whole hour!
The sweet music of pain and frustration awaits, methinks.
you would be right especially at that first world. Yikes.
I just got the 100% achievement in FF5 last night, been playing it casually over the past couple months and man I was ready for it to be over with... Can't imagine how Wes feels about FF5 after this playlist is complete
You have used more elixirs in this one playthrough than I have playing ff games for 30+ years.
Dude same.
Elixirs in FF5 are quite common to find and relatively cheap
@@sertiana2512 that's not why elixirs are so infrequently used. They're not used because "maybe I'll need them for a later fight" being said all the way upto the final boss. FF meming at its finest
@@212mochaman elixirs being meme-able to begin with is BECAUSE of them being so rare and not available on shops
@@sertiana2512 and yet, without fail, there's the stockpile of elixirs you've gotten since the start of the game (in ff6 for instance the very first item you can get in the game is an elixir from the clock before meeting Locke), and the number hasn't gone down at all
I don't know why, but these videos have been helping me sleep. I've been rotating through them for a few weeks now 😂😴
Great videos btw! Love your dialog!
Best challenge series on UA-cam!
All the various strategies you use is always interesting, rod smashing or not!
25 seconds in. I'm predicting A LOT of rods being smashed.
except bards can't smash rods, lol.
@@shawnaustin1037 I had hope for him, naively.
It may not be necessary to know now since you got through one of the hardest classes (though Adamantoise will be hard for White Mage too, I imagine) but here's a little insight into the damage formula.
There are three things multiplied in the formula to determine your damage: effective attack, level, and strength/magic. (This is then divided by a high number to get it into a reasonable range). But the key here is "effective" attack. The enemy's defense is subtracted from your attack. So for Mage Masher's (31 attack) vs. Adamantoise (24 defense), you only have 6 effective attack. Grinding levels does not change that at all, it only will occasionally, at certain levels, add another 6 to the damage. I saw you hadn't equipped the Main Gauche, which would've given you an effective attack of 11. Would that have made it easy? No. But that's nearly double the damage output for whoever is wielding that dagger.
Sometimes you were saying "Bards" but I was hearing "Bartz" and I was very confused! "Bartz wore down the first flamethrowers relatively painlessly" - what about everyone else?!
Oh boy, Bard! One of my favorite jobs!
*checks video length*
..Oh my god.
Bard, a great job. A terrible party.
I will watch the intro EVERY single time with this series with my YT premium like a true solider 🫡🫡🫡
Also download them! Just downloading a video gives it 100% watch time, even if you immediately delete it after the download finishes. Or at least it did last year, not sure if the 'sleepy time playlist' meta shift broke that, but as a fellow premium watcher it can't hurt to help.
Dakengard 3 clips in a Final Fantasy V video? I approve. Shame bard only seems like a full-game-length version of that game's last boss.
Journey through the Wes has so far been exquisite
Bard is genuinely an S tier job as long as you have basically any other job along. Bards and Berserkers together hilariously outclass either alone in single class challenges
Well, you probably mean that "Sing" is an S-tier ability. Nothing about Bards stat block is S-tier.
@@BacklogBuster Fair
Finally caught up with this series! Amazing work Wes, looking forward to the other classes, I'm especially curious to see what Geomancer and Chemist will be like, but I'll watch everything else too.
Galoof was meant to be a bard…
Oh boy. I’ve been waiting for this one!
I'm still looking forward to Summoner and Time Mage
This is the job I've been waiting for! Let's go!
An hour an almost five minutes.
"Skip to eight minutes."
Oh god yes. Suffer for me.
I know this took you forever, but i am so glad that these keep coming. I don't even PLAY FF5! The commentary, strategy and well... EVERYTHING has been great in this series!
Looking forward to your next release! Thankee!
I got Bard in my fiesta this year. It was quite a slog, and poor Faris was my designated singer/item user.
Fiesta? Care to explain I am curious
White mage is going to break your soul. Im doing a 4 whm run and uhhh yeah 2nd world has been an absolutely brutal hell. Can't wait to see you "enjoy" this misery.
This is gonna be a whole lot of Romeo's Ballad spam with whittling damage. Sounds like you're gonna have a wonderful time.
Bartzholomew, Leannaria, Farissimo, Galufiorotti...
After seeing the whole series up to this episode, I can say I have a new appreciation for Xezat of the Dawn Warriors. Definitely.
Bravo, this is a monumental achievement
This series is soooo entertaining
All I kept thinking was "Undersea Cavern soon"
got a windows / youtube notification and immediately had to watch this. love this series.
If someone gave me a hard time about pronunciations, well, this video is just gold with what you did with that.
Haha.
Thankfully bards essentially have a late game super saiyan function so they aren't totally useless.
Man. You are just so freaking clever and fun to listen too.
There's hardcore
And then there's Bardcore
As frustrating as berserker surely was, this one looks even worse. Mostly because yeah, you're in control but you're so weak you still can't do much of anything...
Oh hell yeah, sing-along time
Love this series.
So, between Berserker and Bard, the 2 worst jobs, kind of go opposite ways. Bards were terrible while Berserkers were pretty good first world, but they flipflop by world 3 because at least Bards can use items and get the chicken knife.
Your commentary was extra goofy in this one and I loved it
This was always gonna be a rough one. I knew Thief and White Mage were rough starts, and then Bard comes along to replicate those starts partway through World 1.
I don't know why but Red Dragons are undead. Requiem ought to have been viable, though I've never tried it.
When the antlion fight goes bad, it goes real bad. I've been stuck in there a while myself.
Five Giga Flares. What does one even say? I guess that I never knew !Hide had _any_ utility. This was silly and I enjoyed it!
Thanks for giving Apollo's Harp a shot, possibly the least appreciated sealed weapon.
I never take the Chicken Knife because who _wants_ to grind escaping for an hour? Thank you for suffering for our entertainment.
I like that the chicken knife exists, but man, I hate using it. It's more tolerable on like Ninja or Thief since you can just auto-escape but it still feels awful every time.
Bards are a powerful class. They can make Drakenvale, the Pyramid and the Trench very easy thanks to Requiem. Also being able to stop or confuse enemies at will is great. But more than one in a party is redundant.
that drak 3 representation
Here we go again!!!!!!!
Lol, you really are waiting to use that white mage until the end.
I've really enjoyed this content. Thank you.
Honestly, White Mage can't be that hard compared to Bard.
@@ThePageofRageFF5 White Mage only is HARD. Using the Flail (and there's only one of them) would be their only source of damage for very, very long time.
D&D bards: 💪💪💪
Everquest bards: 💪💪💪💪💪
Final Fantasy bards:
Glad to see a fellow ff5 enjoyer. Also, will you be doing a freelancer run or any runs with permanent status effects?
I saw Bard and knew it was going to be rough. Then I saw the hour, giving me confirmation on that 😂😂
Chemist and Mediator are gonna be some big pains, but that's probably the worst of it going forward.
Of all the runs I've seen, this is the spooniest!
OMG! Final Fantasy V and Drakengard 3. You made my day. :D
I love your work keep it up
Still thinking the worst is going to be Geomancer
Sing is a really, really underrated command, even in World 1. Bard's stats and equipment are rough though. Once you learn Sing, there is no reason to stay a Bard.
Spotted at the end, next time is Time Mage! (Hopefully)
Mystic Knights first, but I have Time Mage done.
@@BacklogBuster 3rd class in my top 3, everything coming my way I take it! XD Great job, your channel is a breath of fresh air for me
You could also do a four job fiesta
the best use for harps is tow wear down an animal for Beastmaster to catch becaue you CAN'T kill it. Or you could use death claw from blue mage.
Can't wait for Chemist, where grinding for mats and kicking the ever living shit out of the Game become synonymous.
I cant wait to play the game while staring at a spreadsheet.
Really you just need to remember a few combinations that are the most broken.
this was definitely worth the wait, best episode yet
The more niche (aka terrible) the job the better the episode. Can't wait for geomancer
Can you? Yes. But only if they are spoony.
Why would the bar owner hide the organ? Because Bards suck.
Bards can get a really easy shinryu kill by having a zombie party member with a reflect ring and hiding. It only takes several hours!
Spoony, you were a real one.
this is the one i was waiting for... im waiting for repeated rounds of vicious mockery... XD
8:17 Bard Job unlocked
Thanks!
Enter the Bard!
Backlog buster, did you truly comprehend the magnitude of the task you set for yourself when you began?
white mage gonna be fun. It like bard in that it gets powerful in the 3rd world with holy at least.
Zombie one with the apollo harp and reflect ring and have the a second character hide... the zombie will attack self but bounce the harp damage to Omniscient
These videos are so cool. Im obsessed w ffv so Im definitely biased
So...
Is freelancer considered one of the Jobs in question?
Will we get the Freelancer only finale? (I'm sorry if you weren't planning on this and now feel compelled to 😅)
22 jobs. Freelancer and Mime are jobs.
@@BacklogBuster I wonder if it'd even be worth separating them into different uploads considering Mime isn't even accessible until after the Fork Tower...
The thing with bard is it is a FANTASTIC support job class with some of the most broken support you have access to by the 3rd world.
Damage to undead enemies, extra speed attack and FREAKING LEVEL and romeo's ballad is actually really good and able to cheese tons of bosses, including omega!
The problem? They suck at attacking. Literally sneeze on these dudes and they go down. They attack like the force of wet tissue paper on a 1998 honda civic.
Even the best harp in the game is situational. Bards only is a massive pain. Bards and literally any other job combined (or even in the 4 job fiesta)?
Good. Congrats on having patience of legendary status, wes
Edit: Omnicient is actually susceptible to stop. So you could have used Romeo's ballad to stop him and then slam on the chicken knife.
Bard is one of the better jobs in Fiesta settings due to their support abilities and being able to stop Omega.
Requiem works well on the money turtle
@@veghesther3204 Indeed, on a single job challenge, it wouldn't be possible. I like to pair the sing ability with summoners or use freelancer job.
You missed the opportunity to call him Bardz. You failed!
Edward and the spoony bards spirits live in you
Bard can be pretty busted but I’m thinking as an early commenter that the equipment selection is going to be what causes most issues.
love these videos
Requiem song will be important.
Thanks for the binge.
Huh... I didn't think it would be possible to complete only as bards. On top of that, their levels were lower than I expected. I was expecting level 80 at least.
The Red Dragons in Ex-Death’s castle are undead. Spamming the Bard’s Requiem song would have made pretty short work of them.
Sadly, they are the only undead dragon. This would not have worked on the Yellow or Blue Dragons, but it would have taken care of the Reds.
Thank you for these videos!
Damn that would've been nice to know lol.
@@BacklogBusterYou still have the White Mage job to do, right? You might be tempted to Cure3 your way out of that one, but it always seems to miss when I try it. Cure2 hits for around 500 damage, though. This is at Level 31, by the way. And the Time Mage as well as the White Mage can hit it with the healing staff. Phoenix downs and Elixirs likewise always seem to miss when I try to use them on Red Dragons, but potions and high potions will damage them, so the Chemist will be able to do a reliable 1000 damage per high potion. At the moment, I cannot test any of this on the Pixel Remaster version.
Really enjoying your videos on these solo job challenges. Looking forward to the rest!
I love how many people don't realize how many enemies are able to be stopped with brd in this game. 😂 Nearly everything in the game can be stopped with Romeo's inclusing a certain super boss.
The dark day has come....
Bard is my favorite job along with Summoner, but I wish his songs were more useful besides paralyzing enemies, regenerating and requiem.
Team Bard! 0/10 for not renaming Bartz "Spoony".
Suddenly, I'm looking forward to mime only. Since mimes improve based on other classes you've completed, they'll probably stink on their own. At least they have good equipment options.
Break Rod, Break Rod, Break Rod. Basically the same as any magic Class that can equip rods including 66% of Red Mage playthrough.
!Sing could have been a halfway decent supporting ability for your support classes. The problem is, most of the actually useful supportive abilities are all hard-locked behind World 3. Hero's Rime being behind World 3 at least makes sense, but Mana Peaen and Sinewy Etude would've been better off in World 2, and Swift Song would've been better off in World 1. Of course, none of this solves the Adamantoise problem, because at the end of the day, Bards still need better stats and a better equipment selection. (Lamia's Tiara is nice for Sword Dance procs, but I would've much rather taken the Strength gear from Kelb instead)
You say you may behind the worst of it all, but I can't wait to see Thief and Geomancer. Thief is similarly bad but without the utility Bards have, and Geomancers are frustratingly annoying for a different reason.
Thief is likely going to have to do some hi potion stealing and elixir farming. Geomancer, I dunno, I never touch them.
@BacklogBuster I will say, Gaia is honestly pretty solid as an mp saving tool in regular encounters, but the second you face bosses... yucky.
@@BacklogBusterYou'll basically need the same as Bards did. Gaia is a highly unreliable technique as it randomly selects an attack based on the terrain you use it in. In the case of Soul Cannon you'll only have access to Wind Based attacks to which the Cannon is Immune. And you don't even become Overpowered by the end of the game because Gaia's damage falls off hard. And Bells are absolutely horrid weapon. The benefit of Geomancer's is that they have decent Magic Stat (they can't pass it to anyone) making them good for throwing Ninja Scrolls if you absolutely have no other choice.
I love the more niche weapons like harps, bells & whips it stinks they dont the attention from the FF devs like more common weapons do.
lmao. LEEEENA and GALOOOOOOF!
Bard has extra trouble in the Pixel Remaster, its songs that buff over time give stats more slowly than other versions :(
I always get confused that you don't one-shot twintania with magic lamp Odin.
I dont want to walk all the way out of the rift to recharge it.
Worst case scenario, could chance an instadeath proc chance from Assassin's Dagger on the gigaflare turn. It's 1/3 chance so it's far from reliable, but it beats walking all the way out of the rift to recharge the lamp.
Oh boy, I've been looking forward to this.
I know bard is one of the best support jobs, especially for omega but how does it do without regular dps
not good lol
@@BacklogBuster lol. 3 bards plus mystic knight = superboss killer. 4 bards = freelancer, no buying weapons only run lol
Pretty sure you could have finished Omega though it would take some time. By staggering Two Romeo's Ballads you can basically immobilize Omega while the third Bard uses Swift song. After a while a single Bard would be able to hold Omega stopped at which point you can boost the attack using Sinewy Etude. Slowly and steadily you'd murder Omega with a Chicken Knife.
This version looks very nice with the little animations in battles. Is it the Steam version or Pixel Remaster?
Its the Pixel remaster on Steam. The iOS/PC version was ugly as hell my guy lol.
that was painful
Oh great another job challenge! Let's watch it!
*sees over 1 hour duration bar*
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