Trijicon RMR - You Dont Buy it For its Looks.
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- Опубліковано 30 чер 2024
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Why does one buy a RMR? That is the question.
00:00 - Physical Overview
03:27 - Distortion & Color Tint
05:54 - Carbine Length & Magnified
07:08 - Nightvision Performance
07:43 - Comparison; Holosun EPS's
12:30 - Comparison; Holosun SCS
13:51 - Comparison; Aimpoint ACRO P2
15:55 - Comparison; Primary Arms Classic 24mm
18:33 - Final Thoughts
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Nice to know that C_Does and Delta Thirty Four are collaborating. Along with Brass Facts and Hoplopfheil you guys are my favorite medium sized gun channels.
Hop is my mortal enemy.
war hippy is a great upandcommer
Corporals corner is strangled by youtube and while he doesnt talk a lot about guns he explains hey in the marines pre post gwot this is what we did for fighting holes and ill even use the lbe to show you.
I really like what ddn is doing even if hes stolen GT style videos
Tactical hyve is neet
@@wonderloafsame here the coward won't make another video on giant robots.
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The main reason to buy the RMR is because of its durability and the fact that it just works. I've seen them hold zero when taking it off to swap batteries or put it on another gun. I've seen them hold zero while having a cracked lens. With that sort of tankiness I feel it can work past any of the issues people may have with it. It really is one of the best pistol dots in the game because I can't think of any others that can stand up to that sort of abuse.
It's the Glock 19 of Pistol Red Dots. Better options are available but people still buy it because it was the first of its kind and its bomb proof.
Well said
Guilty 😂
Someone get this man a RMR HD
Adore my rmr! Been on my carry for 5 years now. It’s amazing! Looking at getting another one day for my ultimate AR build (block 2 upper with nightforce nx8 2.5-20 f1 mil-c, in a badger comm 1.54 mount). I dislike the removal of the optic for battery change but never needed to actually resight it in when I confirm zero
Yeah, it's definitely a low value proposition in this day and age. I don't regret buying the ones I have, but I'm not interested in buying any more of them.
RMR HD 😏😏
Honestly I just got one so people don't call me poor
@@HaloDude557these things are expensive
@@HaloDude557😂
RMR HD is the answer. Some people still say it’s behind the times because it doesn’t have shake awake or solar failsafe. Sure, I guess solar failsafe in particular would be nice, but Trijicon has engineering figured out. If that one feature decreases durability it isn’t worth it. LE and MIL don’t have an issue with batteries, and that’s what it’s designed for.
Top loading battery, sufficiently sized window, durable and dependable… a little higher actual street price than RMR type 2….
Just get the HD moving forward.
I'm a big fan of Deltathirtyfour, the ACOG, and the RMR. I'd love to see you review the 1-8x Credo. I haven't seen anyone really review one in depth since their scopes went to the credo line.
Eventually I'll snag their new pistol dots. I already have some RMR and SROs.
I put the RMR on carry guns and the sro on competition guns. Still nothing comes close to the rmr's durability.
How do you get such good camera angles that align with what you’re seeing? Phenomenal. Nobody else does optics reviews even close. Thanks!
Loved this vid....very informative....thank you
would love to see a video of your review setup how, like seeing how you record video and photos through the scope, the equipment, the mounts, how to align, how to focus etc.
Thanks for this video. Very informative.
Happy to help
@C_DOES Another great video! I EDC'd a G19.4 with gen1 RMR06/Battlewerks sealing plate for years and never had any trouble or difficulty. I moved to a G17.5 with irons over a year ago, but have been shooting friends guns with various red dots. I pulled the G19 out of the safe recently, and was quite shocked at how dated the RMR is... If you were going to mill a non MOS Gen 5 G17 for EDC what is the first enclosed optic you would choose?
Great review! I am looking at mounting a red dot (or green) on my M1A. The RMR distortion would bother me. Any recomendations for a 2-3.25 MOA Red or Green dot for my application?
Good day . I've been a follower for some time now, and I have really been enjoying your content.
Please advise what red dot you would suggest for an AKM ( AK47 ) and also if you would suggest a magnifier as well . If so, what magnifier would you throw on it... keeping in mind that my AKM is not babied by me and is treated quite rough and tough , so your recommendations will need to hold up . Thank you 😉
When mounting an optic to an ak keep in mind the way you mount it will be the most important factor for your optics holding zero. Stay away from the ones that Mount to the dust cover.
Can’t wait to see the new rmr hd.
Do you plan to do the RMR HD? I would love to do the comparison video between the two.
If I can get my hands on one, absolutely.
Trijicon RMR and ACOG products are cash cows for the company. They are both excellent products but no longer deserve the money they are asking for them considering their outdated design. I would be more interested in seeing a red dot optic from Cyelee that claims to be a better red dot for those that have astigmatism. Now that is an innovation that I would like to see tested and reviewed.
The Cylees and Holosuns have been really crisp with my astigmatism, which is very bad and makes every Trijicon red dot product I've ever picked up unusable.
I think the Acog 4x is still respectable for what it is for what they go for. They're ever so slowly rolling out models that's more in line with the civilian demands (ex. the TA02) but otherwise are still fine as they are for the price. I've looked through my fair share of fixed magnification prism optics within the "economy" spectrum and they leave things to be desired, the retention never held and always sent them to new homes. You're not going to really find anything with as clear of glass, huge FOV that competes with 3x budget prism optics except it's a 4x, more light transmission thanks to the larger objective lens, and not overly heavy.
The RMR however, yeah it's fallen behind compared to market competitors for pistol red dots.
@@Riname-K I believe that the Element Immersive 5x30 has a unique innovation. It has clear glass, adjustable parallax, huge FOV, and a much better eye relief and the reticle is very impressive.
i had the cylee optic that says its for astigmatism and its horrible sent back quick
@@hankofthehill4803 Good to know as I was looking to get one but have not seen one in the wild. The Romeo1PRO 6 MOA red dot has a crisp circular dot. It works for me.
I have an older RMR, but with their new RCR enclosed optic and new RMR both having better access, I will be replacing it ASAP with the RCR
It’s come to the point where I have to watch C Does before buying anything nowadays
The RMR has that Battlefield 3 blue tint
Thanks for taking me back in time. It absolutely does
@@shino9797 I could have said the trex arms blue tint, but Battlefield 3 is way cooler than the skinny nylon man
@@pouuko7656 lmao skinny nylon man your the best
Ckassic didnt have that green tint.
Will you ever review any acogs? TA11,TA02, TA31.
Got a TA33 review coming. If that counts!
The day has come
Stupid question: is it C Does(rhymes with cuz), or C Does(rhymes with booze) or are BOTH wrong?
Regardless luv the vidz man, keep em coming.
When I heard Hop say it like “sea-doos” I started questioning it as well.
@@Wolf_Avery yeah, but it's not like Hop cares all that much about getting the pronunciation exactly right.
C Does does-ing it again. The best red dot video's.
4:15 you do realize you won’t notice the distortion if your focused on the target and not the dot right?
How do you patent button placement? If that's the case, how isn't every button placement on RDS systemsx LPVO or on anything that has buttons, not a patent infringement?
Because there were so few pistol red dots in existence when this came out that nobody had those key features and it’s the totality of said features and shape that is part of the patents.
@@stephen_crumley by that standard wouldn't everything that has buttons have a patent on them then? Like literally the 1st people to design and patent that design would have a patent on that button design.
Make it make sense because I'm not getting it. Yes, I understand they were one of the 1st manufacturers to make pistol RDS but how come this is the only company I can think of that does this or upholds it's patent.
@@2amichaeljthey are not the only ones. S&W had to pay Glock something like $8 per Sigma sold. The patent will expire in a few more years and you'll see other companies do it.
@@jcoolG192 I'm talking about button placement. I understand patents on entire weapon systems and products in general but how do you patent button placement?
No one can explain button placement patents because it doesn't make sense. It would be like pistol manufacturers patenting slide lock, magazine release and takedown levers and no other company could place theirs in a similar spot.
The case for the SW pistol was based on basically copying the entire Glock platform, not because of 1 feature as innocuous as button placement.
My understanding is the patent is on the ability of the button to be pressed anywhere, not just the center. i.e. it's the size and ability of the buttons, not the placement.
C has gone from airsoft to ccw
Is this bruien in action?
The RMR a paradox. It’s not the best in class, it’s not the most affordable, it not the most durable. But they are what a lot of us used to learn about red dots. They are the OG and that will keep them popular. And the reason I still use them is I’ve never broke one and I don’t like change.
They are American made and come in at an appropriate price point I feel given all factors added up. Still doesn't stop me from wanting one that is updated.
Not the most durable? I was under the impression that it's the most durable RDS on the market even given the shortfalls. What is more durable then RMR?
Definitely the most durable according to Aaron Cowan of Sage Dynamics' RDS White Paper. The particular RMR in this video is now at a little over 33K rounds as of a few months ago:
ua-cam.com/video/2yzpJBrLU5U/v-deo.htmlsi=0fXXRuX20ZSSRJnA
Honestly speaking, I have no dog in the fight, because even with corrective lenses my astigmatism makes all red dots appear as a starburst so I won't use them.
However, it's difficult to argue about durability when reading this. Page 16 begins durability results and quite frankly, nothing else is remotely close:
www.sagedynamics.org/_files/ugd/7dc128_6377087e72264cd18dbcb04eea4686ce.pdf
@@max3835absolutely nothing is more durable, nothing has the war rated use proven in history
The top half circle isn’t for looks, it’s for strength.
It was literally made for the weebs in the military because they are obsessed with cat ears. Their only purpose is owo
Shot irons for the entire time I was in the Marines, 9 years later I get an RMR and noticed the difference immediately. Its increase in accuracy with less the effort is worth the purchase alone. It’s a tank of a red dot.
With my astigmatism there's no red dot on the market that's got a worse dot than the RMR(ACRO is a close second). I see a more than a quarter inch wide clutch of grapes.
C_Does does it again.
The glass makes holosun look like Leopold.
Glock never innovates, Trijicon never innovates, etc etc. But some items just plain WORK. And so we can complain all we want, but if your life depends on it, you grab your Glock with the RMR and go. There's range toys, and then there are tools. Simple choice.
I use to use rmr's until I tried a 508t, now I don't own a single rmr lol
As annoying as the RMR's problems are, they all are irrelevant to me because for me, durability is above all else for red dots :v
Plus, the correct way to run a red dot is to put tape on the front and shoot occluded with the Bindon Aiming Concept, because then you can run the red dot at less brightness, and save battery life. It also helps protect the lens and front body of the optic from scratching or breaking with enough thicc tape on top.
Hi
Unrelated...
Which is the better LPVO between the Vortex Strike Eagle 1-6x24 vs the Primary Arms Slx 1-6 Gen IV?
it's fine, it works but there are better offerings as it's not 2004 any longer. Heavily blue tinted glass and no reticle choices make it very subpar considering it's meager offerings in contrast to the competition especially for the price point. Who knew you actually buy a sight for its looks- (the way it looks through the window) that's kind of the whole point!
Blue tint helps battery life, and are you shooting with one eye closed like this is 2004? If you are target focused it shouldn’t matter, always seemed like a mute point given it has advantages. Not to mention it’s not being built by basically slave labor in China, I’ll spend the extra to not have something I’m trusting my life to not to be made in China, by literal children.
@@vilecreature8640 here we go... low tint helps in low light and general overall visibility through the window, dot sights already have insane battery life (years) so the difference if any, is negligible. You don't always want to be "target focused" depending on the kind of shot you need to make. The focal plane on a RDS isn't infinite like a holographic so you'll want to focus through the window/reticle itself so it's not blurry when you superimpose on your target for a precision/distance shot. The ability to have circle dot reticle is nice for holdovers at distance and height over bore compensation up close. Green LED's are also very nice and tend to pop better in bright environments for a given brightness than red will. Sure, trijicon could incorporate all the above if they wanted to, but they don't. If they did maybe i'd buy one but for now i'll stick with the innovative "junk" made by chinese child slave labor. Maybe Trijicon is slightly more reliable and durable, but I honestly couldn't care less, if a dot fails i'll just use irons, red dots are just a luxury and shouldn't take place of fundamentals.
I wish you didn't have to remove the optic just to change the battery.
The lack of innovation is the part that hangs me up on buying an RMR. I’ve moved to not buy foreign when there’s an American product. And the aftermarket support for the RMR is why I’m holding out.
What's more important, innovation or dependability?
Ugh way too much blue tint. After using EOTech I'm spoiled for crystal clear glass.
Honestly I would buy one if the tint and distortion wasnt soo horrid. Honestly theres soo many things that would make this optic better and the rmr hd addresses a couple of those things as well as adresses problems that arent really problems not to mention its one of the ugliest pistol optics on the market. Honestly if they put new glass in it and got rid of the tint I gaurentee it would sell out in an hour or two and I would happily buy one.
I am that one person who runs an rmr on my 10.5 HD rifle
Thank you fo existing and having people realize I'm not hallucinating! How does it work for your purposes?
I only notice the color and distortion if I try to find it. I do not notice when firing at the range or larping in the dark around the house/yard. Your findings are valid but I just dont notice when focusing on the target .@@CDOES
Also I have mine mounted forward on the upper in a larue lower 1/3 mount @@CDOES
Single soul? I’ve have had a type 1 mounted on an ultralight (4lbs 5oz) 10.5 for like 6 years now. It’s arguably my favorite weapon. I can hit a 6 inch plate at 100 yards standing all day long, what more could you ask for? The blue tint is a notch filter, that’s how you get 4-5 years of battery life. I also have one mounted on a pistol, which I can also hit a torso sized metal plate at 100 yards with. I have developed an astigmatism now in my 50s, so the dot is no longer perfectly round, but that hasn’t changed the effectiveness of either tool.
Hey C-Does, how do i go about contacting you to send in an optic for review brother? I have one it looks like you havent done, and i love it as a main optic on my PDW, but id like to get your take on the fine points.
What optic?
@@hardcore4476 the Burris Fastfire 4
Love my eps. Cheaper and easily matches up with the other overpriced optics. And yes i like loads of rice.
For nv use the 1 DPP 2 SRO
I would think blocking others from your button design encourages other companies to find an improvement. If they could all copy a layout, there would be less incentive to innovate
Holosun tried to have two large buttons on one side and somehow that wasn't okay with Trijicon.
"it's going to work for the rest of its life".... doesn't that describe every product?
Maybe it’s just me, but I think the rmr is the best looking optic
EPS all day. That RMR lens has more blues than a John Lee Hooker boxed set
For Algo
Only reason why I have an RMR is cus it's the only optic that looks good on the HK VP9. All other optics looks stupid on that gun imo.
Personal preference definitely plays a big role!
The updated RMR HD sucks because it overhangs the breech and causes stovepipes on a lot of handguns
An opinion from someone with no real world experience with one. RMR HD is worth every penny.
400$? huh u overpayed for a lot 🧐. i got mine for but a fraction of that amount, 40$ to be exact.😎 Still the dot gets distorted easily and height adjustment no workey
why not review the HD lol, its kinda late to review the rmr no?
Where are the HD in stock? Only industry T&E people have them it seems.
Most retail sites are saying preorder for early November release. So it would seem it’s just in time to review the RMR now and then review the new model when it’s available to the public.
Wouldn't it make sense to get a baseline for when he gets the RMR HD in for review?
If you shoot like you’re supposed to shoot with it, both eyes open and focusing on the target you won’t notice any distortion. If you’re focosing on the target through the glass it’s a nightmare.
Could you expand on it? I believe your second sentence contradicts the first one. Didn’t you mean that focusing on the dot is a nightmare because of distortion?
@@VincitOmniaVeritas7 yes. I meant that if you close your non dominant eye and you look through it like you would on amagnified optic you will notice the fish eye.
@@mapled3135ah, now it makes sense. Thanks.
@Rm_1776 I'll try to clear it up a bit better... You are supposed to focus on your intended target through the glass, with both eyes open. When the dot overlaps your target (if you will), you fire. You are not supposed to focus on the dot and place it on your intended target.
I also occlude the dot when I’m shooting with a piece of black tape when I’m training. Therefore the window is completely black, and your brain merges the left and right eye for a sight picture. Forces you to be target focused with the non-dominant eye.
They buy it because Instagram told them Trijicon is battle tested
Sounds like something a poor would say
Oof. You are definitely un-hyping this product. Which is probably a community service. I’m still evaluating my VCOG SCO, but I’m probably never going to pick up an RMR now.
Back when BIG DADDY UNLIMITED was all the rage before they tanked, I picked up a type 1 rmr for $299.00 new!! And I sold it a year and a 1/2 later. Folks gotta get over that USA made crap!! Seriously what device ate you watching/reading this off? 100% it's not a USA made product!!! 😅 it's got it's just recorded service life & that's awesome. But there's better options out there now a day's. In my own opinion!!! Great video bro!!
Ok, commie lover
It's more of a reliability point than a USA made point. Being made in USA is just a plus. I'd rather not support child slave labor if I can just to save a few dollars.
508T is where it's at.
You’re just saying this because u can’t get a trijicon lol
@@Rooooogboi ? Why can't I get a trijicon?
Im sure they're good, just overpriced now
"Why do people like these anyway?"
Have to seen sage dynamics beating the shit out of them?
"You need to rezero if you change the battery?"
Have you seen Sage dynamics beating the shit out of them?
"The tint is wrong!"
Have you seen sage dynamics beating the shit out of them?
I have this on my g19.5 roland special for a reason, only thing I havnt done yet it get the glock performance trigger and thats on the list to get, same for my carry g19.5mos
When I feel the radian comp is reliable enough my carry gun will get that comp because I believe in the comp.
It just works unlike a bethesda game.
stop looking at the dot, look at the target like your supposed to
Can't believe there's this much cope in a single comment.
He's beaten the shit out of holosuns that continue to work. What's your point
Trijicon has no interest in listening to the consumers, kinda like leupold
You don't buy any of this stuff for looks .
I notice distortion. It's not good. The whole point of a red dot is presion.
the whole point of a red dot is speed. Scopes with stadia lines are for precision
Shoot with both eyes open and you dont notice it
I dont give my money to the enemy, You are not a true patriot buying chinese made products. Everything I own is made in the USA, Japan, or Germany. Some people don't mind buying gear from the chinese enemy, but I support my country, I dont support the enemy.
Just terrible.