Knockoffs vs. HORL Rolling Knife Sharpener

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  • Опубліковано 22 гру 2024

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  • @TriggTube
    @TriggTube  25 днів тому +44

    UPDATE: Since posting this video, HORL released a new version of the Cruise with both 20 and 15 degree angles. It's also cheaper than the Tumbler at the moment of this comment, so check that out if you're interested in a solid mid-range option. In my opinion, this new version is the best value out there, because it performs just like the HORL 2, but without the ability to upgrade the discs to whetstones, which isn't totally necessary for basic home use.
    HORL 3 Cruise - www.tkqlhce.com/click-101030958-16966803

    • @Hellamoody
      @Hellamoody 23 дні тому +3

      Thanks for the update bruv

    • @Satfjklmn
      @Satfjklmn 22 дні тому

      thanks fro the video. i have only one little thing to say the saturation is a little bit low

    • @jojojojojojojojojojojojob
      @jojojojojojojojojojojojob 22 дні тому +1

      its not that whetstone doesnt work. its a skill issue. these rolling sharpeners make it easy for everyone.

    • @Hellamoody
      @Hellamoody 22 дні тому +2

      @@jojojojojojojojojojojojob very true, he did mention that in the video as well

  • @lukasfugner7778
    @lukasfugner7778 3 місяці тому +614

    One note on the sharpeners lasting longer than whetstones, thats true for the traditional whetstones however there are also diamond based whetstones which do not have the issues as traditional whetstones. You do however still need to learn to sharpen with them.

    • @TriggTube
      @TriggTube  3 місяці тому +110

      True. I'd imagine that's the same grit as the rolling sharpeners with diamond discs. 👍👍

    • @ironfoot1938
      @ironfoot1938 3 місяці тому +25

      Also most splash & go ceramic bonded stones last very long. They will need some flattening after some time, but wear much slower than weakly bonded stones.

    • @attila5221
      @attila5221 3 місяці тому +9

      they might last longer than those cheap chinese shitstones, but a shappro will last practically forever(well, all the shaptons minus the 120, 220, 320 grits)
      and a shapton rockstar will outlast your grandkids.
      Diamond plates last a while, or they wear out in a few weeks if they're shit, resin bonded diamonds will last practically forever, metalic/vitrified bond diamonds/cbn will outlast your bloodline.
      all that said, it takes a bit to learn how to sharpen on whetstones, but outside of maybe a fixed angle system it gets you the sharpest knives. Fixed angle systems also have limitations where whetstones do not.

    • @tonyhuynhxe1974
      @tonyhuynhxe1974 3 місяці тому +2

      Sharpening isn’t that hard to learn. And this gimmick gadget can’t do what a whetstone does thinning of the knife

    • @DanielJacksonisbiggerinside
      @DanielJacksonisbiggerinside 3 місяці тому

      The diamond grit (especially on a cheap stone) doesn't last forever. If you only sharpen one per month, maybe the low startup cost is worth it (especially if you keep the worn diamond plate for a mid-step or polishing step.) but if you're using a stone enough that you need to flatten a waterstone... Then you're wearing out a diamond stone and need to replace it.

  • @WZNGPNDA
    @WZNGPNDA 3 місяці тому +359

    I’ve seen tumbler brand ads for years and only a few days ago did I see one for horl. Glad I hesitated and read all the reviews. Now I just need to save for one.

    • @plotson
      @plotson 3 місяці тому +23

      If you'we watched tumbler ads on tiktok/youtube shorts where the guy was showing off the sharpening skills using this sharp tester thing, they were also rigged as the guy was using the wrong technique to make the score look better after sharpening, glad you didn't fall for the cash grab!

    • @TriggTube
      @TriggTube  3 місяці тому +36

      Yeah. I hope this video reaches more people before it's too late. Sadly I'm not going to be spending any marketing budget on reach. Thanks for the comment. That helps spread the word.

    • @WZNGPNDA
      @WZNGPNDA 3 місяці тому +2

      @@TriggTube No, thank you for all you do on this channel. Watching your vids has taught me so much about the kitchen.

    • @boalberto5160
      @boalberto5160 2 місяці тому

      Be smart and buy a real sharpening set instead of this junk, Landsky are amazing!

    • @LorenzoRodriguez-c4c
      @LorenzoRodriguez-c4c 2 місяці тому

      @@boalberto5160 its an option for people that dont want to learn to use a landsky puck or whetstone but i do prefer whetstones over these

  • @Asgar1205
    @Asgar1205 3 місяці тому +147

    I‘ve been using the Horl 2 for about 4 years and it stills works as well as it did on day one. Absolutely no regrets with my purchase

    • @TriggTube
      @TriggTube  3 місяці тому +13

      Great to hear. That's the rate mine is aging at too... not at all. Haha

    • @raffettoman
      @raffettoman Місяць тому

      Could you validate this? Did you buy it right from HORL themselves?

    • @Asgar1205
      @Asgar1205 Місяць тому +17

      @@raffettoman Validate? no, i made a youtube comment stating my experience, take it or leave it xD

    • @SaifulIslamShudipto
      @SaifulIslamShudipto 19 днів тому

      You didn’t have to replace the disks?

  • @charblee
    @charblee 2 місяці тому +108

    Thank you for this video. Tumbler blasted the internet with ads. I thought they were the “original”. I’m glad I didn’t waste my money.

    • @TriggTube
      @TriggTube  2 місяці тому +4

      Glad I could help!

  • @revanthjayakumarkannan137
    @revanthjayakumarkannan137 3 дні тому +1

    Your the best youtuber I've seen since shorts were released, and your voice and the way you explain things patiently, and calmly just gives you that Bob Ross kind of feeling. The way your content is organized with the partitions and boundaries for each and everything is just amazing. So just wanted to say thank you for the absolutely amazing content

  • @NortOfficial
    @NortOfficial 3 місяці тому +377

    I've been wanting (and looking) for this exact video for months, looking into getting a HORL after seeing all those TUMBLER ads everywhere. The Internet Never Lies, right? Thank you!

    • @TriggTube
      @TriggTube  3 місяці тому +59

      Yeah... well it's like they say... either you spend money on the quality of the product or on the marketing of it. I saw the endless ads too, but after testing the tumbler, I'd have to say that they clearly focused more on ads than product.

    • @NortOfficial
      @NortOfficial 3 місяці тому +12

      @@TriggTube If enough people pay for stuff sold high and made cheap, there is more money for ads... and repeat

    • @TriggTube
      @TriggTube  3 місяці тому +13

      @@NortOfficial A truly vicious and common cycle

    • @DerapokalyptischeDrahteselreit
      @DerapokalyptischeDrahteselreit 3 місяці тому

      ​@@NortOfficialI would rather buy a diamond stone, because you can get a realy good one for like half the money. If you have a bendy knife it can become very dificult to sharpen the Tips of knives with rolling scharpeners

    • @DerapokalyptischeDrahteselreit
      @DerapokalyptischeDrahteselreit 3 місяці тому

      ​@@TriggTubeI think the reason why you couldnt learn to sharpen knifes with wettstones is, that they do not remove material nearly as fast as diamond stones. For me a big double sidet (around 400 and 1000 grid) diamond stone works much better than contraptions like in this video

  • @FinnyJake12
    @FinnyJake12 3 місяці тому +59

    I was thinking on buying a whetstone, but the algorithm brought me here, and I'm so grateful for that. Not only I know now about the Horl sharpener, but I have a whole new channel to binge.
    Keep it up!

    • @TriggTube
      @TriggTube  3 місяці тому +3

      Wow! Thanks to the algorithm! Glad you found me and liked the video. 👍

  • @daahn_kitchen
    @daahn_kitchen 3 місяці тому +30

    Finally, an honest review. I have used wet stone for nearly 6 years, but was still interested in this concept of rolling sharpener.
    While researching, however, I have discovered that numerous youtubers and bloggers promoted the knock-off version more than the original one(I am not going to mention some specific names, but some of them have over 2 million subscribers).
    Also, the tests that they so have "conducted" were mostly hiding the downside of those products on purpose.
    I know that they did it on purpose, because they were using the loopholes of measuring instruments that I know so well about.
    I am glad that there is finally a honset review about these products. God bless you.

    • @TriggTube
      @TriggTube  3 місяці тому +6

      Thanks. It helps and hurts that I don't have the pressure gauges and macro lenses to test everything SUPER scientifically. I also thought the internet was missing a "does it work or not?" test. With hundreds of fakes out there, I'm sure there may be some that also work, but from what I ordered... it was pretty obvious that quality control isn't their priority. 👍👍

    • @daahn_kitchen
      @daahn_kitchen 2 місяці тому

      @@TriggTube legit true. No wonder why ceramic stones and dimond stones dominate the premium market.

    • @TheElusiveNoggie
      @TheElusiveNoggie Місяць тому +1

      @@TriggTube I personally really prefer the cut a carrot method you used. I have been wondering about these for a while but most comments I find just keep saying to learn a wet stone and how they could never get as good as a wet stone and so on. I don't need the absolute pristine perfect edge as a home cook. I just want it to be sharp enough to make my job easier and safer without all the extra effort of learning the wet stone.

  • @KaleTheTinkerer
    @KaleTheTinkerer 3 місяці тому +13

    You’re a legend for this, I’ve been considering buying one for ages now and I now know which one to actually buy, thanks a ton!

    • @TriggTube
      @TriggTube  3 місяці тому +1

      You're welcome. 👍

  • @ThePirateburke86
    @ThePirateburke86 3 місяці тому +8

    I've heard from multiple people that the Tumblr stops rolling after a few uses. thanks for this video. I've been looking at getting a rolling sharpener because I too am terrible with a wet stone

    • @TriggTube
      @TriggTube  3 місяці тому

      Yeah. I'd seen other videos, but it was another thing to test myself. 👍👍

  • @itsSmiv
    @itsSmiv 3 місяці тому +27

    This is the video I've needed for so long. I've been skeptical of these rolling sharpeners ever since I saw them, and held off buying one because of that. Good to know that the skepticism was warrented, but I'm even more glad that one of them actually works. I'll definitely be getting a Horl sharpener. Thank you so much for this video!

    • @TriggTube
      @TriggTube  3 місяці тому +5

      Yeah. My skepticism became curiosity. And my curiosity became a video. Glad it helped. 👍

  • @mvtx87
    @mvtx87 День тому

    Cannot overstate how much I appreciated this video. Subscribed!

  • @audiojunk1337
    @audiojunk1337 2 місяці тому +26

    Speaking of sharp things, this video just kept me ON EDGE and really helped CUT through the noise of these rolling sharpeners. Really got to the POINT which i appreciated. Thanks for the good work!

    • @TriggTube
      @TriggTube  2 місяці тому +5

      Amazingly SHARP wit. 😜

    • @audiojunk1337
      @audiojunk1337 2 місяці тому +2

      @@TriggTube I really try. Great video!

    • @normannisbet1213
      @normannisbet1213 Місяць тому

      Well aren’t you the cunning linguist? 😅👍🏻

  • @meandemeanor9034
    @meandemeanor9034 14 днів тому +2

    I grabbed an Amazon choice one for £30 a year ago and I've only just replaced it. As a professional chef, my knives get a lot of use, so I was impressed. Especially as I expected it to not even work. maybe I will purchase a horl one day, but for the price difference, it's an easier route for the £30 per year sharpener.

  • @MannyGraal
    @MannyGraal 21 день тому +1

    Thank you so much for this video, i've been wanting to buy one of these, but always hesitated do to the price, I did get a lot of tumbler ads even some youtubers suggesting it, but i'm glad i waited and stumbled upon this video.

    • @TriggTube
      @TriggTube  21 день тому

      Yeah. It JUST came out, but check out the HORL 3 Cruise. I didn't have it when I made this video, but HORL saw this video and sent it over. It's their NEW model, cheaper than tumbler, HORL quality, and with TWO sharpening angles. If anyone buys the tumbler after this, I'm sorry for them. (I linked it in the description of this video if you want to check it out) 👍

  • @neglectedloves
    @neglectedloves Місяць тому +9

    There's a saying in Germany where the Horl comes from: if you buy cheap, you buy twice... so there you go 🤓
    Great and informative video 🙌🏻

  • @Bravadosjebsimbahsm
    @Bravadosjebsimbahsm 25 днів тому

    It’s good that there are products like this to make life easier. I’m not great at sharpening with a whetstone but I love doing it and taking my time and getting it dialed in.

  • @Voodoo13579
    @Voodoo13579 19 днів тому +1

    Even without the sound, just watching the knife dull gives me chills!

    • @TriggTube
      @TriggTube  18 днів тому

      Yeah. I still hear it with my eyes closed.

  • @MrBlutarski
    @MrBlutarski 29 днів тому +2

    Have the Tumbler. Couple of things here: 1. You can unscrew the discs however I have not seen an alternative or replacement and not sure if the Horl’s will interchange or not but might be another good internet UA-cam test.
    2. With regards to not rolling, what happens is the plastic bushings become polluted with metal shavings and that prohibits the rolling. Disassemble and Remove the plastic bushings and should not be a problem in the future.

  • @frankfusselman
    @frankfusselman Місяць тому +1

    I love honest and solid review videos like this. Very well done and I've been wanting a rolling sharpener, and this helped ease my skepticism. Guess I'll have to save up or maybe ask for it for Christmas 😅. Thanks again and God Bless you and yours!

  • @darrenstuart3907
    @darrenstuart3907 Місяць тому +2

    I've got the Horl 2 and love it. Interesting to hear about the Tumbler as you see them everywhere and I assumed it would also be pretty good. The Horl is just a very well made piece of equipment, if you value the look and feel of precision made tools then you will absolutely love it. For rolling sharpeners in general, someone skilled with a whetstone will be able to get the knife a bit sharper but although there is a bit of a knack to using the Horl, pretty much anyone can do it and it's really quick. The biggest question is what angle to sharpen your knives to. The general rule of thumb is Japanese or other high quality knives should be sharpened to 15deg, anything else to 20. Don't think that 15deg will make your knife sharper, it doesn't seem to work like that. I have found you can sharpen anything to 20 and it will get sharp. I have some Wusthof knives which are a high quality German brand, they are supposedly sharpened to 14 deg at the factory so I always used 15 deg with the Horl, and I got them sharp but was always a bit disappointed they were never razor sharp like when they were new. I experimented and started sharpening one of them to 20deg as an experiment and it actually got sharper. So my message would be experiment and find what works for you and your knives but if in doubt go with 20. As the video says you can get different discs for the Horl, I have just got the standard ones, but something that is really good is a sharpening leather strop, it really makes a difference. After honing with the ceramic disc the knife is pretty sharp but a few strokes over the strop and it transforms it to razor sharp.
    Something my Horl does that I absolutely love, not sure if it's supposed to do this but I am assuming it is deliberate, if you set it down the wooden centre section appears to be slightly off balance and it rotates itself so that the Horl symbol always faces up. Small thing but its small things like that that I love!

  • @BloPsy_Actual
    @BloPsy_Actual 3 місяці тому +5

    Yay! A video about the original and the fakes. Tumbler had a very aggressive video campaign on UA-cam, and I am honestly sad that people bought that cheap knockoff instead of the actual HORL, which is fantastic.

    • @TriggTube
      @TriggTube  3 місяці тому +1

      Yeah. That's the real dark side of marketing.

    • @GameFuMaster
      @GameFuMaster Місяць тому

      people buy based on price tags more than anything tbh.
      Also, expensive doesn't necessarily mean better. And cheap doesn't necessarily mean worse.
      Always need a review on things tbh.

  • @AaronDennis
    @AaronDennis 3 місяці тому +17

    My son got me the Tumbler for my birthday and I have had none of the issues with the rolling part you have had in the test. I wouldn't want to set a new bevel with the diamond stone, but for getting a very fine edge it seems to work well.

    • @calebhyatt1905
      @calebhyatt1905 26 днів тому

      Yeah, mine too, no issues with rolling!

  • @TheAndroidGamer367
    @TheAndroidGamer367 21 день тому +1

    Man You're a life saver! (technically a money saver) I almost Brought the tumbler Thinking they were the original Thank Gosh You Came by And told me it was fake. Just for that here a sub

  • @BelovedNL
    @BelovedNL 3 місяці тому +83

    That Taylor Swift meme was perfectly executed! 😂

    • @TriggTube
      @TriggTube  3 місяці тому +8

      Haha. I had to. 😜

    • @TheClintonsimmons
      @TheClintonsimmons 3 місяці тому +2

      Inmissssedit. What was it.. for my friend?
      Great video. Keep it ip

    • @philjan23
      @philjan23 3 місяці тому

      ​@@TriggTube🥰❤🥰❤🥰❤🥰❤🥰❤🥰❤🥰❤

    • @PeterEnis69
      @PeterEnis69 2 місяці тому

      @@TheClintonsimmons around 2:00

  • @txxredtache
    @txxredtache 5 днів тому

    Saved up for a Horl, glad i did. Excellent product, thanks for the heads up :)

  • @cole_CK
    @cole_CK 2 місяці тому +2

    Thank you. I kept looking for horl reviews and all I could find were “review” adds. This is good

    • @TriggTube
      @TriggTube  2 місяці тому

      You're welcome. I hope this helps.

  • @jaymyne1
    @jaymyne1 Місяць тому +1

    I have a rolling sharpener by Kimbo, which definitely falls into the mid price point, even a bit cheaper than the Tumbler. But mine came with removable sharpening stones and the option to purchase a high grit whetstone attachment. It also rolls a lot better than what the Tumbler appears to roll in this video.

  • @xander9460
    @xander9460 Місяць тому +1

    2:00 Ahahaha! x'D That made me laugh so loud! Nice little bit of editing and humbleness =) Take my upvote!

  • @jordandoranstratton
    @jordandoranstratton 21 день тому

    Former sushi chef here! I would’ve LOVED the original Horl in the kitchen to help the newbies keep their knives sharp. If I start up a restaurant I’m gonna get me a couple of these to help speed up the process of learning how to cut properly, since not everyone wants to commit to learning how to sharpen an knife (especially for how much of a price gate there can be) the horl would be perfect

  • @bmbouman
    @bmbouman 3 місяці тому +1

    I have been using the Hone rolling sharpener for about a year now. I love it! It has bearings in the casing for a nice smooth role and quality feel. The discs are diamond and double side. I wonder how it would stack up vs the Horle? Have you tried that one?

    • @TriggTube
      @TriggTube  3 місяці тому

      I have not. What price range was it?

  • @JulioAngelx
    @JulioAngelx Місяць тому

    Thanks for this video. Was looking into rollers to sharpen my knives and specially my mom’s knives that she’s been bugging me to sharpen lol but didn’t know what brand to go with 😂. I recently discovered rollers as sharpeners and didn’t want to learn wet stones since it’s too hard and I hate it. Thanks for this video man, you saved me a ton of time. Keep up the good work 🎉

    • @TriggTube
      @TriggTube  Місяць тому +1

      That's the goal. Happy to help.

  • @dereke6408
    @dereke6408 Місяць тому

    Thank you for this video! I have seen a handful of ads and videos from users of the Tumbler and had noticed that black lines showed up in user videos. I thought to myself, why wouldn't they make it spin? Turns out it's supposed to... I didn't know that HORL existed, but am glad to say that I will be looking to pick one of them up! Thanks again for the video I didn't even know I needed!

    • @TriggTube
      @TriggTube  Місяць тому

      Happy to help. It's wild how much more tumbler is paying for marketing.

  • @shirograhm
    @shirograhm 2 місяці тому +1

    “Worth it” style video for kitchen gadgets, great idea

  • @LifeofWiks
    @LifeofWiks 3 місяці тому +1

    Something to think about when purchasing anything with different price ranges doing the same thing is knowing who came up with it. They understand the product inside out, and are usually a lot more invested in fixing any shortcomings. Knock offs typically just recreate whatever the OG is without so much thought as to why. So normally you get a more fleshed out, longer lasting product with potential improvements in the future. Though there are always exceptions as with anything

  • @jame6125-d5u
    @jame6125-d5u 19 днів тому +1

    Omg I thought tumbla was one of the best but becauae of your honest review I changed my perspective

    • @TriggTube
      @TriggTube  18 днів тому

      Yeah. There are plenty of other reviews out there that agree with me. It's funny how advertising makes it look.

  • @-TradingSimple
    @-TradingSimple 22 дні тому +1

    can you make a video comparing the HORL to the Work Sharp Ken Onion? I love the ease of the powered sharpener

  • @efe099
    @efe099 2 місяці тому +3

    the video editting for a kitchen channel is incredible !!!

    • @TriggTube
      @TriggTube  2 місяці тому

      Thank you so much!!

  • @kyroslangen618
    @kyroslangen618 Місяць тому +2

    Jusging by the comments this must have been one of the most impressive (unintentional) ads in terms of actually getting people to buy something I have personally seen haha.
    Me included😂

    • @TriggTube
      @TriggTube  Місяць тому

      Haha. I imagine most people are searching for this video were already curious buyers anyway... I'm glad I helped them avoid any potential disappointments.

  • @briiigiiijaureguiii
    @briiigiiijaureguiii 3 місяці тому +9

    Thank you so much!
    I have been looking into the rolling option but was entirely clueless on the price differentials.
    TOTALLY this video.
    My whetstone sharpening is better than expected. I have a large fun shaped knife which i have less patience for and assume these rolling things would assist that.
    😁

    • @TriggTube
      @TriggTube  3 місяці тому

      You're better than me. I feel like my whetstones always left my knives exactly the same. But then I had a whole mess to clean up from a wet kitchen. I never really figured it out and got frustrated with trying.

  • @Dontloseyourlight100
    @Dontloseyourlight100 Місяць тому

    I was wondering what the skid marks were on other reviews (no one mentioned) as to the Tumbler. Will do just that, save up for the HORL. Great review, thanks.

    • @TriggTube
      @TriggTube  Місяць тому

      Haha. I haven't seen them elsewhere, but that's what they are. Haha

  • @grumpy_cat1337
    @grumpy_cat1337 3 місяці тому +5

    2:03 maybe it's not you. Internet beginner sharpening videos, recommend way too high grit stones to get into sharpening. You need to start with 200-300, maybe 400 grit stone at most, I'd recommend ~300 Japanese stone, it removes material fast, and inherently requires consistency for way less time, which is doable for novice. And you can get your knives scary sharp with just that one stone, you sharpen until you can see a visible "V" shape formed on the edge, and then you make 10 alternating strokes on the stone to deburr, and you're done.

    • @TriggTube
      @TriggTube  3 місяці тому

      Yeah. I started too high for sure and then bought additional hard grit stones. They were better, but I still had to take my knives to a pro to reset the edge.

  • @iyerland0427
    @iyerland0427 Місяць тому

    There is another product from Horl called Horl 2 which only supports 20 degree angle! Question is: How do we know which angle to use 15 or 20? Or is it that either would work? Please clarify. But excellent presentation and detailed video. Awesome 👏🏼

    • @TriggTube
      @TriggTube  Місяць тому

      You can either choose the angle based on the knife you're sharpening, or choose what you like. It'll take longer to "reset" an edge, but it's possible. Ultimately sharper angles are less durable, so that's the trade off.

  • @andreashauschild7757
    @andreashauschild7757 2 місяці тому +2

    Its a good example that certain designs can be copied and give similar performance and function for a while, but the real technology is the quality of the grinding part and of course the rolling mechanism. Seeing that both aftermarket companies could not even duplicate something as simple as a stable roller displays really why they failed on the grinding disks also.

    • @itsgonnabeanaurfromme
      @itsgonnabeanaurfromme 2 місяці тому

      any engineer can replicate or even do better than that. The problem is those companies are usually the shitty China companies. So it's expected to be garbage.

  • @emreilhan6225
    @emreilhan6225 18 днів тому +1

    So I have a question as a beginner, how big of a problem is it if the knife you are sharpening has a bolster? In the video it looks like the sharpener still goes down 90% of the length of the knife with the bolster and in the end you mostly use the parts closer to the tip anyway. Am Is it in anyway a dealbreaker if a knife has a bolster or would it still be just fine for home use but maybe not the absolute best option there is?

  • @StaminaMC
    @StaminaMC 2 місяці тому

    For the last however long I've had an electric sharpener which, while seemingly fit for purpose, would only really do like a knife and a half before the motor on it appreciably slowed… it wasn't a deal-breaker for me so I've just put up with it. Would one of _these_ make my knifes discernibly sharper, I wonder…?

    • @TriggTube
      @TriggTube  2 місяці тому

      It will make the knife sharper than it was, but probably similar to a good electric sharpener.

  • @badgersnadgersjelly
    @badgersnadgersjelly Місяць тому

    Diamond stones can easily get clogged with shavings, especially when using cheap ones. However they can easily be cleaned with a pencil eraser, which brings back their performance. I wonder whether this was the issue with the cheap version?

  • @jessecotter4476
    @jessecotter4476 3 місяці тому +1

    the highest end Horl has a geared transmission in the roller that increases the rpms of disc faster than the rolling speed. I have not seen that feature reviewed on any of the many roller sharpener videos i have watched

    • @TriggTube
      @TriggTube  3 місяці тому

      Yeah. In theory it would work better, but with how the Horl in the video performs, I can't imagine it being a necessary feature. For saving time or making the knives sharper. It's pretty quick and effective as is. Gilding the lily a bit I think.

  • @KarateLars
    @KarateLars Місяць тому +1

    Another advantage of buying the original Horl knife sharpener instead of a knockoff is that you, the customer, helps keep Horl in business. This is, of course, assuming that Horl maintains the quality of their products (which they hopefully are wise enough to do).

  • @erich7616
    @erich7616 2 місяці тому +4

    I wonder if you could go cheap and just cut out circles of sandpaper to adhere to the discs, yknow?
    Obviously, the ideal is to get the best one, but that's what I'd do if I was going cheap.
    Personally, I like the $30 Smith's sharpening jigs. Not as convenient, but it's a stone on a guide, fairly idiot proof. Comes with many angles and grits, and even a ceramic triangular one to do serrations, as well as honing oil.
    At least the one I used to have did. That was years ago, and yknow, shrinkflation and all that.
    I lost it awhile ago, and usually just hone on a ceramic plate or mug's bottom. Good enough so far.

  • @LisaMT1218
    @LisaMT1218 Місяць тому

    You saved me from buying the Tumblr. It's been all over my pages everywhere.

    • @TriggTube
      @TriggTube  Місяць тому

      I'm glad I could be of service.

  • @rikandlinda
    @rikandlinda 2 місяці тому +1

    Note, I bought the tumbler had the same issue. Emailed customer support and they replaced it and the new one works perfectly

    • @TriggTube
      @TriggTube  2 місяці тому

      Glad they replaced it. But bummer that it happened.

  • @normannisbet1213
    @normannisbet1213 Місяць тому

    Great vid, dude. Charming & witty as always. Always informative

  • @MrWnw
    @MrWnw 22 дні тому

    6:04 what is the point of this stopper at heel? I hate when a knife has it because it doesnt land flat on the cutting board, the chopping is impossible with it

  • @mariusnorkunas3478
    @mariusnorkunas3478 27 днів тому

    I'm looking at this cgeaper option, but have one concern... Will is last for a long time? Because HORL 3 has exchangeable disc and if they wear out then you can buy new discs. But with HORL 3 Cruise you don't have an option to change them. Or are they have a TRUE life long warranty..?

    • @TriggTube
      @TriggTube  26 днів тому

      They have lasted me a couple years and I sharpen my knives a LOT. I think the exchangeable discs on the HORL 2 are more about adding whetstones than about replacing the used discs. The diamond disc and honing disc are super durable.

  • @allisonnixon1920
    @allisonnixon1920 Місяць тому

    Thank you for providing useful information AND for delivering that info in a very entertaining way!

  • @justicar5
    @justicar5 2 дні тому

    Fixed angle sharpeners, such as the Lansky system are also worth considering

  • @rustjupiter
    @rustjupiter 2 місяці тому +2

    I thought you were about to intentionally file off the edge of that miyabi and my heart broke. So glad you didn’t 😂

  • @_krypto_1992
    @_krypto_1992 3 місяці тому

    thank you so much for the video! I've been looking to buy a japanese carbon steel knife and well, i wanted to learn how to sharpen it with wetstones, however, i've never tried it and i'm worried i'd end up ruining it. So my question is, do these rollers work on carbon steel knives? or will they damage them, instead?

    • @TriggTube
      @TriggTube  3 місяці тому +1

      Yeah. The only thing to make sure of is that the knife has a V edge geometry. (As opposed to single bevel or the other ones from the video) Which it PROBABLY will be a V edge unless it's stated differently. I would also ask when you buy it if it's 15 degrees or 20 and then sharpen at the same angle. Carbon steel is totally fine.

    • @_krypto_1992
      @_krypto_1992 3 місяці тому

      ​@@TriggTube thank you so much
      In regards to the angle, i think it's 15°... but i'm not sure if that is the case for all santoku or Bunka

  • @Smarfton
    @Smarfton 3 місяці тому +5

    I have the Tumbler and been using it for a year now and I have had none of your issues, save a little of the black, but even then it stopped being an issue after the first use. Also the rolling portion of mine have never had the flaw you did. I think you just got a defective one.
    My knives have been razor sharp both German steel and Japanese Steel that I use since getting the Tumbler. Tumbler also makes and odd degree angle magnet block for further options.

    • @jackrdeen
      @jackrdeen 3 місяці тому

      Ive had the same experience you did with mine. Overall Ive been happy with it.

    • @urieelSEptim
      @urieelSEptim 2 місяці тому +2

      yeah. too bad they ripped off the design and pass it off as their own.

  • @skinwalker_
    @skinwalker_ 2 місяці тому

    Another thing I did not realise I absolutely needed until watching a YT video. Very good comparison, id rather wait and buy quality over throw away crap

    • @TriggTube
      @TriggTube  2 місяці тому

      Buy nice or buy twice. 👍

  • @somedudewithakeyboard
    @somedudewithakeyboard 2 місяці тому

    I didn’t know that HORL was the original so I got Tumbler. It worked well on the first use (so far) and it didn’t have that issue with rotation. Maybe you’ve got a defective unit?

    • @TriggTube
      @TriggTube  2 місяці тому

      Possibly, but I researched it, and a few other people have reported the same issue I had. Regardless, even when brand new and unused, it doesn't rotate freely.

  • @Paulfighteronline
    @Paulfighteronline 3 місяці тому

    Thank you for this clear and honest review! Like many others, I've been bombarded with Tumbler ads, and I wondered whether the product would work as advertised. Saving up for a Horl now

    • @TriggTube
      @TriggTube  3 місяці тому +1

      Glad it was helpful!

  • @ryancollyer2046
    @ryancollyer2046 3 місяці тому +1

    I literally looked at Horl sharpeners for the first time yesterday. Crazy timing.

  • @ackmandesu8538
    @ackmandesu8538 3 місяці тому +1

    For anyone who cares: I got a 20-30€ two sided wetstone on amazon like 6 years ago and after using it about 6-10 times a year on both of my knifes it is still in decent condition. It took me a couple of tries to get the movements down but after that I could get them sharpened fairly quickly. I am no expert and I am sure they're not perfectly sharpened but they are good enough.
    What I mean by this is... Consider how much the convenience of getting one of these is worth for you, considering it's gonna spend most of the time in a drawer somewhere. It is VERY expensive in my opinion. Also consider this is pretty much an ad.

    • @TriggTube
      @TriggTube  3 місяці тому +2

      Thanks for giving the other option. I fully agree with your takeaways. I was making this video for people who are on the fence about WHICH rolling sharpener to get. It's absolutely a matter of preference, but this is the option if you don't have the time or desire to learn how to get good at whetstones. Personally, I tried and didn't like them.

    • @twatmunro
      @twatmunro 2 місяці тому

      I've got a set of top-of-the-line Japanese whetstones -- Shapton Glass in 400, 1000 and 5000 -- and the whole lot cost me about the cost of the Tumbler. The Horl is outrageously overpriced.

  • @DWillingham56
    @DWillingham56 Місяць тому

    The tumbler has two plastic bushing that the axil rotates on. I replaced those with brass bushing and now it works great. Bearings would be even better.

  • @eldie3d
    @eldie3d Місяць тому +1

    I'm a little confused...
    You didn't use the expensive Japanese knife, and used a 'stainless steel' knife instead...
    I work with stainless steel, and it's not magnetic. How did you make this work???

  • @tonyolsson3880
    @tonyolsson3880 Місяць тому

    If you find it scary or overly complicated to use a whetstone i can absolutely see someone get a good quality rolling sharpener. I can see the benefit of this thing on more then just against a stone. If someone is older or wrist that hurt a lot, this can help them save money against buying new knives or paying to fix them.
    I will pick a stone every time but thats because i learned it sense i was in my early teens. And i would also say that you dont need much for stones either. I have a basic stone and it has lasted over 10 years. I sharpen like one or two knives every now and then and it's always done its job, always got it back to cutting my food.

    • @TriggTube
      @TriggTube  Місяць тому

      Yeah. It's all about your priorities and abilities. Whetstones definitely work. No argument there... but you made some good points about who may consider other options.

  • @nerd7195
    @nerd7195 20 днів тому

    Do they have one for ceramic knives?

  • @Mortarah
    @Mortarah 3 місяці тому

    Thanks for this video. I really need to get a knife sharpener and couldn't decide between putting more effort into whetstones or getting one of the rolling ones. The limitations are of course a bit disappointing, but looking at some of my German-style knives, being stopped by the bolster shouldn't really be an issue, as even originally they don't seem to have cutting edge sharpened completely down to the heel.

    • @TriggTube
      @TriggTube  3 місяці тому +2

      Well I'm glad my video reached you in time. Best of luck with freshly sharpened knives. It makes ALL the difference.

  • @JohnathonGolfs
    @JohnathonGolfs 29 днів тому

    Would you ever use the Horl on a proper Japanese knife? Or would you just stick to a whetstone? (For someone who has never used a whetstone)

    • @TriggTube
      @TriggTube  29 днів тому +1

      I would and do use mine on a proper Japanese knife. It's just the same as using a whetstone, but it's more consistent.

    • @JohnathonGolfs
      @JohnathonGolfs 29 днів тому

      @ awesome. Thank you!

  • @villainmean14
    @villainmean14 25 днів тому

    Does is work well with pocket knives and EDCs??

  • @DaneRossenrode
    @DaneRossenrode 16 днів тому

    Here in the UK, the cheapest Horl sharpener (Horl 3 Cruise) is £100. And typical chef's knife sharpening costs around £15. And I'd need to add taking it there or delivery, so add £10.
    So for the cost of the cheapest Horl, I could get it sharpened only *4* times (not including the time and hassle of getting it to a knife sharpener shop).
    Considering that, buying a Horl definitely makes sense!

  • @madil2259
    @madil2259 3 місяці тому

    Good whetstones and rolling knife sharpeners are not available in my country.
    Is there a third option that you can suggest?

  • @MilkT0ast
    @MilkT0ast 2 місяці тому

    One issue i have with the tumbler. It stopped being able to spin within the wooden housing.
    So i have to manually roll it. (Which is way more dangerous)
    Does the horl have this issue?

    • @TriggTube
      @TriggTube  2 місяці тому

      Not in my experience. But that seems to be common with the tumbler, as you can see in the video. 👍

  • @rickace132
    @rickace132 2 місяці тому

    I have a belt sander, the Ken Onion edition. I use a 120 grit belt and then a 800 grit, then a leather belt. I plan on get a 1x30 belt sander for my next purchase.

  • @mrchainanimal3637
    @mrchainanimal3637 3 місяці тому

    I wish I saw this vid some months earlier... I bought a not so cheap knock-off (about 90 USD). It didn't meet my expectations and I have returned it. It was not turning smoothly and after I have sharpened all my knifes, the discs felt smooth. I then have bought the Horl 2, and it is working great. In retrrospect maybe I should have invested in the Horl 2 pro to safe some time.

    • @TriggTube
      @TriggTube  3 місяці тому

      Glad it worked out. Sorry I didn't have the video done it time.

  • @999universe999
    @999universe999 3 місяці тому

    I have the horl 2 and bought an extra disc with coarser grit because sharpening often takes to long. This helped alot, but after 5-10 sharpening it feels like is dulling. Do you not experience that?

    • @TriggTube
      @TriggTube  3 місяці тому

      Only after the first couple sharpenings, then once it's settled into its edge, it stays the same. It's normal for the first few sessions to smooth out the surface a bit.

  • @lincolntupper3863
    @lincolntupper3863 26 днів тому

    Does the mid range horl still sharpen as fast as the other horl, and is the only difference the angle?

    • @TriggTube
      @TriggTube  25 днів тому

      Yes, but they JUST released another mid tier option that has two angles. I wish I knew before making this video, but it JUST came out. The cruise 3

  • @DS-mw7pi
    @DS-mw7pi 3 місяці тому +1

    I own a knock-off for about 25, it has a whetstone discs, rolls smoothly, and you can buy as many different grids replacement stones as you wish for about 5-7 bucks.

    • @sawyerstuart9968
      @sawyerstuart9968 3 місяці тому

      What brand is the one you have?

    • @DS-mw7pi
      @DS-mw7pi 2 місяці тому

      @@sawyerstuart9968 brand? There is no brand, just Aliexpress

  • @Titan0170
    @Titan0170 3 місяці тому

    Yes, thank you. I've been wanting one for a while now, and now I know which one to buy.

    • @TriggTube
      @TriggTube  3 місяці тому

      Glad I could help!

  • @TheLegendaryCaboose
    @TheLegendaryCaboose 2 місяці тому

    You just saved me from buying the Tumbler. I'll be looking into the Horl 2 Cruise

    • @TriggTube
      @TriggTube  2 місяці тому +1

      I just heard there is a HORL 3 Cruise coming out soon. If you haven't bought yet... that's the move.

  • @victor-crow
    @victor-crow 3 місяці тому +7

    2:00 skill issue

    • @TriggTube
      @TriggTube  3 місяці тому +3

      Yes. Agreed.

    • @petert8931
      @petert8931 Місяць тому

      @TriggTube, thank you for giving us , who are time and skill poor, viable options !

  • @norcalviking8992
    @norcalviking8992 Місяць тому

    Great job breaking it down - Tumbler ads everywhere - thought I get one - but nope - going with HORL!v

  • @patrickjaime3260
    @patrickjaime3260 Місяць тому

    Thanks you the man , great video really appreciate your honesty 🙆🏻‍♂️

  • @Jiusonium
    @Jiusonium Місяць тому

    I've been thinking about getting the Horl, but the price has been a factor. After watching this, it certainly isn't anymore. I don't know why I haven't bought it already, as I've never been the one to go for the cheapest option. Heck, I have hundred of dollars invested in my knives :D

  • @Damndru
    @Damndru 3 місяці тому

    I would love to see a follow up video or short of you testing the Work Sharp rolling knife sharpener and comparing it to the Horl.

    • @TriggTube
      @TriggTube  3 місяці тому +1

      I think prudent reviews made that video already... I've gotta move on to the next product unfortunately. Haha. My poor knife has taken enough abuse for now.

  • @richardharker2775
    @richardharker2775 2 місяці тому

    Thank you for proving that point. Quality costs.
    Just as a quick note. I rough sharpen my knives at 15 degree and fine finish the very cutting edge at 20. That way It is faster and save on the more expensive fine stones.

  • @sentientcalcium
    @sentientcalcium 3 місяці тому

    Love this video format. Keep up the good work

  • @WhiskArlington
    @WhiskArlington 7 днів тому +1

    [Every other rolling knife sharpener] VS [the rolling knife sharpener I was sponsored to promote]
    I'm all but certain this is a completely unbiased review, and has absolutely NO influence on the fact that you were likely paid to do it, as well as having referral store links in the description. I'd really wish people were more transparent with their audience.

  • @plotson
    @plotson 3 місяці тому

    Great video, your long form content is amazing! Well edited with some fun inserted into it makes for a very good and attention-grabbing video. Also nice that you exposed this tumbler cash grab :)

    • @TriggTube
      @TriggTube  3 місяці тому

      Thanks! Yeah. I didn't have super high hopes, but I would say it shattered my low expectations. Haha

  • @lemonhaze1506
    @lemonhaze1506 3 місяці тому

    Welcome back ❤ Thanks for the review, guess I’ll invest a bit in the HORL cuz I don’t have the patience to learn stonesharpening 😅

    • @TriggTube
      @TriggTube  3 місяці тому

      Yeah. It's one or the other... sometimes you have to trade money for time and patience. I hope you like it. Let me know what you think.

    • @lemonhaze1506
      @lemonhaze1506 3 місяці тому

      @@TriggTubeHey mine arrived, and the quality is as solid as you say. All my dull knives are now so sharp and so much easier to work with. Thanks man 😊

  • @invisiblekid99
    @invisiblekid99 3 місяці тому

    I have a knock off roller ($90'ish) and it's really good. It does leave some black lines but it rolls very nicely and has 6 discs. It does a great job, but it is a minefield out there to get a good one. For disc options, customer service etc, it's a good bet to go with HORL. "Good" whetsones are seriously expensive and unless you have good technique, you don't get the benefit. (like me). But put the practise in and nothing comes close to sharpness and versatility. I've just got a dedicated little knife spirit level that helps, but I just suck at moving my arms straight to keep the angle!

    • @Shmoge
      @Shmoge 3 місяці тому

      Whats it called? The sticker shock of the Horl is a little too much for me

    • @invisiblekid99
      @invisiblekid99 3 місяці тому +1

      @@Shmoge I got it off Temu. Not sure if I should/can post links but it’s Tumbler Rolling Knife Sharpener and angle block is a square with 4 angles which is great for my range of knives.

  • @arbuildingservices
    @arbuildingservices Місяць тому

    Extremely informative. Thanks buddy

    • @TriggTube
      @TriggTube  Місяць тому

      Glad it was helpful!

  • @motivortman7132
    @motivortman7132 Місяць тому

    Interesting i have the Tumbler, which stopped spinning after a couple of months. The company sent me a new one and ive been using it for a year and a half with zero issues what so ever.

    • @TriggTube
      @TriggTube  Місяць тому

      Must be a quality control issue they are used to responding to. That's happened to a few people.

  • @trsmith2442
    @trsmith2442 Місяць тому

    I've have the HORL for years and it still works as good as new. Any time I see those Tumblr adds I always comment to direct people to the real deal.

    • @TriggTube
      @TriggTube  Місяць тому +1

      Spread the word. 👍👍

  • @Elimino_P
    @Elimino_P 3 місяці тому

    I super appreciate you muting the de-sharpening process. Thank you, for real. 👍

  • @piotrkleszcz6782
    @piotrkleszcz6782 3 місяці тому +1

    First! Thanks for the video!

    • @TriggTube
      @TriggTube  3 місяці тому

      You're welcome! Thanks for the comment. 🥇 I hope you enjoy the whole video. 👍👍

  • @bjorn5221
    @bjorn5221 3 місяці тому +4

    Thank you for the good video! I really enjoyed it!

    • @TriggTube
      @TriggTube  3 місяці тому +1

      Thanks for the comment! I'm glad you liked it !