The Internet Is ENRAGED Over The New MGK Guitar
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- Опубліковано 13 тра 2024
- Schecter Guitars recently released the brand new Machine Gun Kelly Signature "Razor Blade" Guitar, and the internet has been EXTREMELY polarized about what they think of it.
00:00 Intro / Story Background
00:50 The Guitar / My Gut Reaction
02:33 Twitter Drama (MetalBirb vs. MGK)
05:57 Do You Need To Explain Art?
07:53 Pandering Cash Grab
08:56 MGK's Razor Blade Explanation
11:34 What If Dimebag Darrell Released This?
12:27 "I Don't Have An Opinion, Man"
13:32 We Are Not The Same
14:24 Outro
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You can't say art is up for interpretation and then say that people are interpreting your art wrong.
I mean there are people that have interpreted are wrong. I don't believe in the death of the author. Which basically means whatever your interpretation is is the right one whether the author says that or not. I don't believe that I believe there is a serious way of interpreting what the author was trying to go for
If art is up for interpretation than he's openly saying see it for what you will and you're allowed to have your opinion. But then getting upset when ppl take it in the worst way possible... how could he have not expected that a guitar like that could be taken the way 99% of ppl took it.
100% spot on. He's being kind of a dumb-ass about this.
Exactly what I was thinking.
Facts. And the guitar is ridiculously over priced.
I had to work for MGK a few years ago for a local event.... his lack of awareness and self entitlement knows no bounds. The highlights: skipped his soundcheck in a line up with multiple artists, then threw the crew under the bus when his guitar (which wasn't on any paperwork or input lists) didn't work until 8 seconds into the 2 song set, which he did publicly to the crowd. Bitching to production because you're an idiot and we weren't prepared is one thing, putting the people working all day for you on blast for no reason so that we loose our jobs (and possibly potential jobs) is uncalled for. Especially when all he had to do was show up 1 hour earlier and all of it would have been avoided.
On the record he blames "Peter Pan syndrome." Which may be a diagnosable way of saying he's a childish navel-gazy doofus incapable of self-reflection.
Yea but that and everything else that people hate about him have nothing to do with the guitar and its fucking abusrd
Wow, I would’ve surprised more from such an obviously fake arse motherfucker who needs autotune and Travis Barker for a career, sorry, I meant talented “rock,” musician! Lmao
That has nothing to do with the people who build the guitars
No neck cutaway tho.. no player would buy that.. all good tho hahah not losing sleep over something so trivial.. it's all great marketing for the product
“I’ll never explain my art… it’s conversational…”
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“I hate how everyone misinterprets my art!”
Yeah, dude can't call other people's interpretations "wrong" if he's not going to defend himself, but given his rep, whatever he says will sound like it could be a troll.
yeah he just made up this story because he wants to be more mainstream
@Tyius420 He is mainstream, that's his problem. His crowd is more of the "for radio" popular pop singers than what he's going for. He carries a popular name from one genre to the next, and starts shit in all of them.
@@TheHockey991even when his music* is mid tier at best.
Art? Hahahahha the definition of "art" is "something that has no other use than to be other than purely as an artistic piece" this has another use. It's not art. Its crap
I remember when wearing a gold plated razor blade around your neck meant "I do a lot of cocaine." This would have been a lot funnier in the 1980s.
This quote from 'A Picture of Dorian Gray' popped into my brain while watching this video:
'All art is at once surface and symbol. Those who go beneath the surface do so at their peril. Those who read the symbol do so at their peril. It is the spectator, and not life, that art really mirrors.'
Thanks for making the video!
One of the things I learned about it messaging, as a graphic designer, is to have outside people interpret your work. And if people constantly interpret it "wrong", that's on you as the artist for poorly expressing/conveying the message. That said, I've seen folks on twitter do some wtaf takes and those tweets gain so much traction that the original tweet that was being responded to gets lost in the wave of poor interpretations/misinformation.
I was a teenager in the 00's and knew quite a few people who struggled with mental health including self-harm, and that was a huge problem among teenagers back then. (Probably still a huge problem now unfortunately.) It had nothing to do with the popularity of pop punk or emo music and everything to do with the fact that the 00's were just a really fucked up time to be young. Most of the kids I was friends with who struggled with self-harm didn't shop at Hot Topic or listen to emo, they were just kids with other serious problems in their lives like abuse, neglect, poverty, trauma, etc. and basically no access to mental health care. The fact that nowadays people talk pretty openly about the importance of mental health has probably (hopefully) led to a reduction in self-harm to some degree. In regards to MGK, I always got the impression that him using razor blade imagery had nothing to do with self-harm and everything to do with nose beers. So yeah, not particularly offensive, just embarrassing.
I mean it's literally just a part of punk music and I kind of don't respect anybody that's offended by it honestly.
are you saying that MGK is a power forward for the Snortland RailBlazers? also if MGK is "punk" what the fuck is "pop"
@@neilpatrickhairless Pop is just a broad term for popular accessible catchy music. And just because he fits into a certain genre doesn't mean you have to like him. It just means he fits into that genre. Lol. That being said, anyone actually offended over that stupid guitar is an absolute tool.
@@neilpatrickhairless people need to stop acting like artists or bands that they don't like aren't part of the genre they're associated with. It's fucking weird. You don't have to like him. I don't like him either. But he's still currently making pop punk. 🤷
I think emo bands like My Chemical Romance helped our society realize the importance of taking care of our mental health. They've made everybody more aware of significant issues like self-harm, depression, addiction. We can thank those bands for making mental health topics not tabu. There's still room for improvement, but at least less and less people treat mentally ill patients like "wackos" or "freaks" and we're not ashamed to talk about our struggles.
If people used the energy to get as mad about important issues like climate change, human rights etc the world at a whole would be a much better place.
Important issues like climate change? Lmao…
we can't stop climate change so why worry about it, you driving an ev is not gonna save the planet or not eating meat for a day .
Worked out for Kaepernick
@@HayesProject79 it kinda is, we only just now got winter weather in Illinois when ussually we can get snow by like, October in some cases lol, sure it’s happening slowly over time but it IS happening
@HayesProject79 I know right... let's tax everyone more and save the planet but let China and India keep dumping millions of tones of waste into our atmosphere , while all the elites flying in their private jets crying about climate change. Hahaha
Bro I've been watching you maybe for a year or longer now and the line "I don't have an opinion man. You know what? I'm getting to a point in my life where I just don't fuckin care anymore" is one of the wisest things I've heard from you. That explains me going through life right now. I consider myself empathetic to a lot of issues but I've also come to pick and choose which things I put energy into. I'm never going to talk about this guitar to anyone. The only song I've ever heard from MGK was rap devil and I think that shit went hard. I liked it better than Em's response and I grew up on Eminem. If you don't like the guitar, or the artist, or whatever just don't fucking support it. It doesn't need to be a conversation beyond that in my opinion.
Honestly, I liked rap devil better too as an elder millennial my formative years included Eminem as the soundtrack but I think his response was kinda something, i can't put my finger on it. It was just not good.
I really do agree with the idea of it being in the scene that it’s in. It’s the reason Judas Priest never really received backlash, because they aren’t in a scene commonly associated with SH.
and when British Steel came out , cutting yourself and depression were not "in vogue" or had people on social media talking about it and "influencing" others........
When someone says “you’re too dumb to get my art” is an IMMEDIATE sign of a shallow intellect 🙃
I think the issue I have with it is the price tag. It’s a 1,500 dollar “guitar” with no case included. There’s no body carves, it’s a plastic plate over the top, you can’t play passed the 15th fret AND it’s made in Korea
You have a problem with it being made in Korea and being 1500? Why don't you check the prices of literally every other big guitar brand, especially epiphone with there $1500 chinese greeny.
@TheHockey991 while Epiphone and Greeny is a big name with a big price tag - traditionally, Korean guitars have been cheaper than USA made models.
My prs se (Indonesian made) was less than half the price of a standard PRS.
@@35milesoflead I more meant an esp or jackson, even ibanez with their premium line. I think 1500 is a lot too, but I wouldn't buy the razorblade for 300. Looking at some of the non-signature guitars schecter puts out, 1500 is similar in price. And Korea is pretty high quality, just as good as if it was made in a japanese or american factory.
@@TheHockey991 I wouldn't buy it. And it isn't the price.
There are design choices that I don't appreciate. I like 24 frets, 2 hums or hsh configuration. I like a trem system which is well balanced. I like a spit coil on my hums with a toggle. All the things I like are missing from this guitar.
I don't think his fan base would buy a lot of guitars. Probably the demographic with the least amount of sales. My God daughter plays guitar but I don't think many other 14 yo girls play.
The first comment I saw on instagram was “I legit thought this was a Chibson post at first” that just about sums up this whole thing. I thought it was a Chibson post too
I just have to comment on your Ronnie statement. I do agree he gets a lot of hate. But he does bring it on himself. He gets himself into arguments with people constantly
He's the world's oldest high school freshman edgelord
Let's not forget he's also Transphobic and Racist.
Let's be real here. He's done it for exactly what's happening, the drama, the likes, no press is bad press eh.
Agree 100% He knew the attention this would get, bad or good.
When it comes to the "explaining art" thing, if it's all about how your audience perceives and interprets your work, but constantly gets it wrong, then isn't the problem here that he is just really bad at art? When someone problematic for anything (racism, sexism, homophobia, etc.) gets called out, they always deny that they're the problem when everyone else in the room knows it, recognizes it, and calls it out. He can say his art is whatever it is, but we as an audience can all agree it's something else. That lyric explanation was total bs too, if you're so upset that people misinterpret the lyric, "use a razor to take off the edge" then maybe you should've actually written the line as you meant it instead of wording it as much as possible to specifically allude to self harm.
Basically, "I shouldn't have to explain my art" is a chickenshit way of saying, "I don't want to or have to acknowledge my responsibility as someone with influence when I do something intentional."
This is one of the best takes at the subject as far as i've seen.
In my opinion, the "I shouldn't have to explain my art" stance should be like a mindset an artist should take in the process of making, something like "how do i do it so i can convey my message without having to explain it in detail?".
This!! So much hitting the nail square on the head 👏
My father was an extremely gifted oil painter, mostly modern surrealist landscapes. He was also an extreme narcissist, very histrionic and manipulative. He would get really pissed at individual interpretations of his work, and would try to ram his own visions and explanation down others throats. But no one ever saw it the way he did, and his explanations often ruined the experience for others.
As a woodworker, I fully understand the frustration when others don't see my creations the way I do. BUT, I always empathize with others vision of my creation, and in seeing it through their perception it opens up new avenues for me, fueling my own ideas in new ways.
Absolutely this. When something is left intentionally vague, and there are multiple valid interpretations you cannot get upset when people interpret it differently. You can absolutely provide your own explanation, and get annoyed if people attribute their interpretation to your genuine meaning. But you can't leave it vague, not clear anything up and still get annoyed at people for having alternate interpretations.
That escalated quickly...And just to start this: I dislike the guitar and MGK, jus so no one can call me a fanboy for trying to argue objectively about this.
1) No, the conversation is not the same as people denying accountability for social problematic stances/comments. That's a straw man. Art can be interprated in many ways, period. Just because gen X and Z are literally brainwashed into seeing a razor blade and thinking "uuuuh self-harm" is not his fault. It's an issue that needs to be solved. I know people with that issue, and many actually still have razor blades in their household. Do I panic at that sight? No! Because not everyone uses them for that purpose, AND it's the last thing they would use after therapy.
2) That lyric explanation is exactly what he meant. He told a story of shaving being his therapy long before those lyrics existed.
3) No, it's not an excuse. No artist should ever need to explain their art. Be it music, paintings, books, movies, games. And the funny thing is...why would he explain his reasoning? You are proof of it not even mattering. He explains what the razor blade means to him and you don't believe it anyways. You kinda demand something but you don't accept what you ask for.
And like I said, I don't even like the guy and find the guitar hideous. But the irrational conversations about this, are just annoying.
And just because a majority agrees on the symbolism meaning something, doesn't mean it's a fact.
@@heffatheanimal2200 There is a huge difference tho. If everything you do, art wise, is misconstrued and misinterpreted as something harmful or dangerous, tasteless even, I'd argue you have the right to be upset. Like I said in my other reply, I dislike MGK, but I can see where he is coming from with his anger. Your dad had issues of impulsive anger issues, driven by irrational motivations. If your dad would lash out as he did, after everyone called him tasteless, dangerous, a disgrace...read through comment sections and apply everything MGK gets, to your dad. Would you still say your dad was irrational? I doubt it.
The biggest "tool for self harm" these days is social media. Start there. 🙄
Based af
I didn’t know so many people were legit upset about it. At first I thought it was a fake guitar post. When I learned it was real I rolled my eyes and moved on.
I just laughed when I saw it and thought to myself “they’ll sell tens of those”
I hope not, I checked Schecter yesterday and it was selling for $1500 USD. Anybody buying for that price is either rich or dumb.
Only a few very ardent fans with money would buy it. The cost and design make it a no go for guitar players.
It's cringe, but this seems pretty on brand for him.
It's honestly pretty funny that mgk did the whole taking "this is art" road when this is a signature gituar created to be sold. That's more of an argument of what it's art and what's not.
Yea its not a cool guitar but theres nothing actually wrong with it
Just remember that Schecter isn't exactly new to doing out their designs. Remember the crazy Prince guitar that was basically his symbol when he dropped his name. That was made by Schecter. They don't do the crazy stuff too often, but they can and do, do it.
I had a bud in the Navy who made an electrified string instrument with a 4X4 landscape timber. It was fretless and he played it with a slide but it was absurdly heavy and totally lacking contours to make it comfortable to hold.
I have never heard someone refer to shaving as "taking off the edge." I've heard folk use it when referring to drug, alcohol or cigarette use but never shaving. It also doesn't help that the way he goes about telling folk comes off very defensive/argumentative and that is usually a sign of concern or suspicion.
Good video! As a metalhead whose used to shock value and fucked up lyrics and things of that sort I thought this was a dumb decision but I didn’t give two fucks about it. The point that you brought up about no longer caring is the point I’m at too. It’s one of the main reasons I stopped following politics all together. Neither side could be trusted with any of their news anymore and both sides would either blow something way out of proportion or push it under the rug so it fit their narrative. Of course I know politics has always been that way but social media made it way worse!
Idk i personally know alot of people who used to cut and that line mgk had is essentially exactly how people who are cutting often describe why they do it. It's a release of endorphins for them they quite literally are using a razor to take the edge off... and in that same vein i do think if it were anyone else it'd be less of an issue, however if "welcome to the black parade" era MCR or even like more modern day groups like BVB did it. Then I think they would be some issues after the fact but off tge rip nobody would care at all.
Just as I commented on Finn’s video, I wish that my recent response video was referenced here because a ton of the points you made including the backpedaling, other artists who used razors are all things I addressed. But I also assume this was all made before I uploaded that video.
I just wanna say I’m also not losing sleep too and I’m just as shocked that all of this blew up. Seriously, I make videos on metalcore bands and next day I give TMZ a story!? Like wtf lol
So look I interpreted the guitar wrong BUT it’s still how I interpreted it. I also still think the emo scene has a terrible problem with mental health. I see it every single day with my community, and I’m empathetic about it.
So I agree with a ton of the points you’re making Tank, the one thing I disagree with is saying I did a complete backpedal about Schecter because I’m still doubling down on that overpriced hunk of junk of a guitar. And I know MGK has the final say for sure, but I assumed the company was selling MGK the idea of the guitar to make money off his name. So again I’m calling out Schetcer in my tweet.
But like I said in my response video. There’s so much BS online and crazy how this started a whole debate. But MGK is getting more publicity, going to probably sell more guitars and we’re also talking about mental health more. The more vocal we are about it, the less taboo it is. So as silly as this whole debate is… we’re at least all having a conversation centered around mental health which is the irony in all of this.
Damn dude. Maybe go write this book in a safe space 😂
You are correct, this was filmed the morning after all this happened and well before you made your most recent video.
All the love, dude. We know each other and you know I wasn’t coming after you, just talking about how it was in the moment.
@@MackTheRipper0fficialif you have an issue reading five paragraphs maybe you should go read a book :)
If you had told me this was a Trent Reznor signature from 2005, I would've believed it 100%. So, I don't understand the uproar. People want to be mad at MGK.
Oh bro, the hate we have for MGK has so many reasons. Everywhere you look everyone says he's an entitled twatwaffle. His previous beefs and his live performances are one of the reasons.
But why hate someone so much that they just live in your head rent free? You hating them is not effect on them at all. It seems to effect the people that do the hating more.
@@TankTheTechI think it's because people know their hate has no effect, and that frustrates them. They then think that if they throw enough hate at that wall, surely something will stick and it'll affect the guy eventually... right?
Fuck yea mgk is a overrated and a retard needs to go back pop hip hop
@@shadywhisper8455I meannnnnmnn he did get pelted with beer bottles and tried fist fighting people multiple times at his gigs lately so it’s definitely starting to get under his skin. If he ever pulls up to a fest I’m at (HIGHLY doubt he ever would with the stuff I like) you bet I’m getting a laugh out of throwing water at him too. He ain’t worth throwing my beer over though. 💀💀💀
@@TankTheTech I hate on him whenever he pops up. Otherwise I cba. And he headlined my festival in 2023 stoned to shit, zero interaction and left early. I was responding to you saying we hate him for no reason.
Why does it always come down to the artists’ responsibility to control the effect the art has?
This is literally “Won’t somebody please think of the children?!”
Weird how I’ve grown up and it’s a metal community now clutching their pearls.
You'd hope an artist gives two craps about their own fanbase, but if they aren't responsible for the effect, they should quit complaining about being misunderstood or the guitar flopping.
All the other alternative, he’s just a faith arse motherfucker, that has somehow managed to convince people to take him seriously. And they literally discussing the wrong thing.
@@npinjest7779 MGK is a douche, that guitar is ugly as fuck .. but to be outraged or offended by it is dumb. Especially if you're a metal or hip hop head and listen to half the lyrics in your playlist. People are just shooting shots at an easy target to get some attention.
@@AndreJHoward Not outraged or offended - definitely not worth it in the scheme of things. Pointing out he made himself an easy target with that guitar and the lyrics used as explanation, both ill-conceived given his own fanbase would be most susceptible to misinterpreting. Dealing with mental health issues is and has been a big thing in metal, so it's no surprise he's getting flak from that direction. Deservedly, in my opinion, cause the whole thing was a dumb move.
@@npinjest7779 He's dumb and an easy target I'll agree. But let's be real if Post Malone had a guitar like that no one would care. And Eminem still occasionally dons the blade necklace. The only reason people care if because it's MGK .. they are using mental health as an excuse to take shots at a guy who is a bit of a cunt.
Honestly, that did not even look like a razor blade to me 💀
If I was in an Ac Dc or Judas Priests cover band
I would be stoked
Pulling that out for every edge or steel songs
I feel like taking MGK at his word in regards to that specific lyric is incredibly naive
I mean the first clip of him explaining the shaving thing… it was before he got into rock even. Unless he is a time traveler or has been planning troll with this guitar back in 2018-19. Seems plausible. You’re just looking for a reason to be upset at something.
@@johndough3809 I'm a 32 year old man. If you think I'm upset at a stupid guitar, then idk what to tell you.
@@johndough3809 Also, now that I'm looking into MGK's discography, while he might not have released a full pop-punk record yet, he already released the song "I Think I'm Okay" with Yungblood and Travis Barker. Given that timeline, I think your first point is kinda irrelevant as well.
If that clip was him defending this guitar, sure. But that clip was from WAAAAAY before this guitar was even made.
Not saying that it is the exact same situation, bit the clip of him explaining the line in that song vaguely reminds me of the DMCA clip of Dee Snyder talking about the lyrics of Under the Knife being about their guitarist's throat surgery and Tipper Gore saying it was about masochistism.
A signature guitar is about one thing, and one thing only: Money. You can call it a revenue stream if that sounds less greedy ... Slash doesn't put his name on any number of models of Custom Shop Gibsons all the way to Epiphones because those are the models he designed, envisioned and that inspired his art ... he does it because because he gets a good cut of each sale (and I am pretty sure his management is good enough to put in the contracts that he is paid from revenue or number sold or similar, not profit ...).
My mind went straight to Cocaine and other drugs when i saw this guitar lol
The thought process Tank went through here is just the way a curious and thoughtful brain works. The more information one takes in about a given topic, the more that person's opinion evolves and changes. And becomes more nuanced. I always find that my initial, off the cuff opinion about something is later clearly off-base once I understand the subject better and become better informed about it.
Funny how "the internet is on fire" yet I haven't seen the 1st mention of this until now lol
I actually think the guitar looks cool. The problem is hard rockers that would like it wouldn't play anything associated with that DB MGK.
The more I watch, the more I love this channel and wish more people were like you. This is an interesting topic to learn about, it's worth a few minutes of idle conversation, but it's not worth getting upset over. If you think the guitar is ugly and promotes activities we wish didn't happen, don't buy it. Simple as that.
I was going to say something but then that meme did it for me and it changed my mind about this video lol entertaining content from you on something i dont care about, good stuff tank
My initial reaction to this was that it was a razor blade for lining up coke
What befuddles me is who the target demographic is for this thing. Schecter has always been pretty smart in the heavy music scene with who they endorse and what they put out to the market as far as clearly defined demographics go. I can't see a whole lot of young MGK fans buying into this image as new guitar players, it's just cringe-y and way outside of the "beginner guitar" price point. Experienced guitarists know immediately that for $1500, this is insanely overpriced for what it is, and serves no purpose that a $499 Schecter Damien won't. This leads me to believe that MGK is putting the primary funding into this, and Schecter is just agreeing to make it. I just don't see Schecter executives looking at this and saying "MGK fans will see this and buy it to learn guitar on." There's just no shot.
Of COURSE my quote had a typo in it 😂 DYAC
If i had the money i would get the guitar but change it to a Judas priest British steel themed one
Best part of being a bass player is that this doesn't impact me ONE BIT 🤣
Hahahahahaha
Don't tell them that we never have to change strings either, it'll fuck with the job security
How about we talk about the fact that they gave a signature model to a guy who has openly admitted publically multiple times that he would have no problem taking part in very physical activities with girls he very much was aware were under age. Multiple times he's said things like this. And you can find it easily by looking it up its no secret. How about we talk about the fact that people conveniently ignore his preditory behavior even though his music is aimg at that exact demo. How about we talk about the fact that nobody seems to be willing to talk about it or is willing to sweep it under the rug and or ignore the whole thing. The guitar sucks. The artist it represents truly is a peace of work that people should not be continuing to support and i'll keep running this into the ground because it needs to be said. When he gets found out one day you will not catch me being surprised
He's the kid in the back of the class that tries WAY to hard to be edgy to try to make friends, in turn, making everyone hate him more
As he and other lyricists have said, it's up to interpretation. As someone who has lost family to self-harm, i think it absolutely will be taken this way and young impressionable people will take it as a glorification. "If MGK thinks it's cool, we all have a dark side, etc. "
Its a lie. He knows it will drum up talking and he knows the talk will get him listeners.
Bro. If someone is so lost that seeing a guitar design has even a slight impact on their mental health they were FUBAR'd long before that.
@@BrandonHeat243 so is your point that they should just be hurried along that path?
@@rc31802 ...What? No. My point is that blaming something like this for SH is like blaming Marilyn Manson for Columbine.
@@rc31802 Serious question: Do you think Linkin Park music should be banned? Because their lyrics talk about suicide quite a lot and we all know what happened to poor Chester. So frankly, I'd say the Linkin Park discography is WAY more likely to have a triggering effect on a person to commit SH then a lame MGK guitar. So LP should be banned right? To "protect the kids" or whatever?
@BrandonHeat243 I said nothing about banning music. Even MGK. Only that he had to be expecting that this would be an interpretation and that he is an influence like it or not. I think it's un-wise , I think it's a bad move. I think it's to stir up controversy. I think it might influence someone. You're the one talking about a ban
Can someone please list off the albums on the wall because im looking for more music
I know a lot of people who struggled with self harm in the past and quite a few of them wear razor blade necklaces/earring etc. Not as a glorification but as a symbol to themselves what they've overcome. I'm not a big MGK fan, but his lyrics never gave the impression to me of glorifying the struggle. It's about failing to overcome the struggle, but keep trying. Sure you could interpret it as glorifying self harm, but you could do the same for Beartooth and The Amity Affliction, and i think they are also quite the opposite.
Interesting. Fair point tbh! I didn’t think of it that way. I’ve seen it too, and by people open about past self harm with cutting so I thought about it as kinda hypocritical. I guess I didn’t think deeply enough about it like you.
when Chino screams GUNS RAZORS KNIVES in rocket skates he is actually referring to hunting, shaving, and whittling
I kinda believe the shaving thing solely for that fact that the clip from 9:30 is before he even started doing rock to begin with. Unless he has a time machine (gun Kelly… sorry), seems consistent with what he’s saying now.
completely reminded me of dimebag. the razor was like his little niche symbol
People who cut themselves because somebody has a razorblade guitar also probably unalive themselves because somebody points their index finger to the side to their head. Also what Metalhead in their right mind seriously says "I like the pink guitar, but the one that looks like a tool for cutting my facial hair is totally offensive"???
How do people like that even survive a day in the real world
"I’ll never explain my art…"
Proceeds to explaining his art.
Would love to see a follow-up video that explains Bogg and Alex Terrible’s positions in this argument.
Idk why anyone gives a shit. Even if people interpret this as a glorification of self harm, that's not on him. Remember all those times the media would run stories about how some violent criminal would have metal lyrics posted all over their room, or in their search history? And the comunity would clap back and say it's not the band's fault someone found influence in the lyrics to go be a violent criminal? Same shit. Just cause you don't like the dude, doesn't mean he shouldn't get the same treatment. Hell, even if he meant to glorify self harm, who actually cares? Think about how many songs from the late 90's and early 00's that made that shit seem cool and sexy.
Excellent video! I subscribed :)
I own about 20 high end guitars .. got old Les Paul’s novos custom shop tele vintage jazzmaster but my pink MGK schecter one pick up guitar is probably one of my favorite guitars I own and gets played more then the others .. so hate all you want till you play it
If the razer he was talking about was for hes face, the guitar would say gilette on it somewhere, MGK's razer was used in coke or flesh.
The biggest backpeddle of this video was him explaining that
Man that video of him talking about shaving because its the only time he "meditates" because of his anxiety hits home hard
I liked cringe guitars as a kid, always wanted the Dan Jacobs signature, the Synyster Gates signature, and any extreme shapes by BC Rich. In my opinion this will shape people as musicians rather than damage their mental health. I'm glad I liked cringe guitars as a kid, it got me passionate about music and I hope the MGK signature gets more guitars in the hands of kids.
Especially if it’s getting a Schecter with a chunky bridge hum in their hands lol
Billy Gibbons style taken from the Bo Diddly guitar with an added 70's Punk vibe.
13:05 - 13:23, this sums up my thoughts exactly on a lot of "issues" lately
what goes though my mind when i see a double-sided RB: the model number of the blade used for my workplace utility knife: What goes though my mind when i see someone with a loose a single sided blade...RUN
When your shows are as big as mgk you just want something that looks cool on stage for a couple songs. I think judas preist should pick up a couple for when they play anything from British steel
It might also have something to do with him not even being a decent guitar player. A guy like him gets a signature? And then they let him design this? No dignity…
As one who has 5 to 7 mental illnesses including severe depression, this does not make me want to do self harm.
I think it looks cool.
I wonder how much that guitar weighs.
My issue with it is how are you gonna play it in classical position without severing your femoral artery?
Its always funny watching the circus from the back
12:52 Amen to that brother. Im glad I learned and realized to just not care about what people say or do unless it effects me or something i truly love at the early age im at of 22. Peace to you and your family.
Art is in the eye of the beholder. That said, this guitar looks cool but I bet it's got lots of neck dive without an upper horn.
I think its just an impractical guitar shape, also with the metal pickguard it could be microphonic as hell.
It's a fine looking guitar, not my cup of coffee to be honest. I am more of a fan of the Flying V style of guitar myself.
When I first saw it i thought it was exactly something he would do. I also thought it might be saying something about SH but thinking about it that is a bit obvious for him. He does and says alot of things that are misinterpreted all the time so i guess this is no different. I do believe him when he says that it wasnt his intention for it to glorify self harm. I really do, but I also think that he knew people would interpret it as that.
Overall as an art piece its perfect. It does exactly what any good art does and gets people talking and debating. The fact its a guitar doesnt change that. Its still a piece of art that can be used. Do I like it? I genuinely dont know. But i know it has done what he wanted and got people talking. The only bad thing i will say is that as a guitar to be played im not sure if it would be that comfortable or easy to play in the higher frets.
One last thing i am suprised it wasnt pink. I also didnt know the shaving with a single razor thing either.
I think Nik Nocturnal said it best: this isn’t for guitar players it’s for MGK fans. Considering you can get a Synyster Gates or Jim Root guitar for similar prices or cheap, with better specs…yeah it’s not for the guitar play. People complained about the price on Tom DeLongs strats for what they are and yet this costs more than that. You can get numerous PRE SE artist models cheaper with arguably better specs. I think that price for you get compared to other artist models out there is where this starts to feel gimmicky, and who’s to say MGK and Schecter aren’t aware of that already. They are both smart and know their audience.
We should call it the Bo Giggly.
The best thing to come out of this was the Sanguisugabogg/Stuffed v. Ronnie Radke beef.
Which happened because one random guy made a comment that Ronnie Radke didn't like😅 then sends him a message saying/threatening? That he can bring the guitar and beat his shit up to record it for everyone to watch😂
Then Ronnie goes on to call all Death fans pussiest crowd of all metal 😅 yeah... Sure.
@@tsohgallik Mark from Stuffed called it out as trash, Radke fired back, Bogg came to Mark's defense, then we got that amazing tour poster.
Also, threatening to fight Devin Swank is a great way to get your shit pushed in playground style.
@TankTheTech Bro, I think of a "signature guitar" as being the defining guitar of an artists career. This razor guitar is NOT is any way a signature guitar. I call it a fraud, in my opinion, by said party. EVH's red body guitar with stripes or Hetfield''s white guitar with a Germanic cross or.... you get the idea of a signature guitar
I mean there is a whole damn scene here on youtube reviewing razors and other shaving stuff, it's a real damn hobby. So I can absolutely see this explanation.
My girlfriend grew up in that scene and just listed off about 10 of her friends from that scene that use to cut themselves with razors. She started crying talking about it. This guitar is disgusting.
If a person is a cutter, I can definitely say that the reason they are doing it has nothing to do with MGK or any other artist.
Fluff was spot on when he said that if this was a Dimebag or Judas priest tribute guitar the guitar bros would be losing their minds talking about how cool it is. The only thing people have to complain about is who the guitar is associated with lol.
Honestly, my initial thought was *cocaine* but, that could just be 25y/o me talking from the past 😅
Didn't MGK get his fans to go after Naked and Famous. Cause he used one of their songs that he wasn't supposed cause Naked and Famous was gonna release it and MGK took it and release his version. So Naked and Famous called him out. And he got his fans to go after them
Look, I grew up in the late 80s, went through the 90s and early 00s in the metal and punk scenes as fan and musician, and I've been absolute drowning-level, neck-deep in the depression issue. I've had friends who were, and we're not all here now to discuss it. So I get it, I get being able to extrapolate something from an image that can be uncomfortable. Two points to that.
One, art is supposed to be uncomfortable. It's supposed to make us think, to make us feel, and make us uneasy at times. It's meant to confront many aspects of the world and life and society that we don't like, or are afraid of, or struggle with. To my mind, art bleeds so we don't have to. If you want art to be comfortable, you don't want art. Because art challenges us. Art is a lot of things to a lot of people. It's rarely safe. That being said, do I think this ugly guitar is art? No. Not even remotely. It's edgy shock-value nonsense from someone so enamored with being the hot topic that he's desperate to stay there.
Two, where does this rabbit hole end? Some people are jumpers. Are we going to tear down and cancel buildings and all go underground like the Morlocks? People have sat in a running car in their garage. No more cars? Every time we see a car, we knock on the window and lambast them with anti-suicide lectures when they roll it down? People wanna talk about something that kills when paired with depression? How about alcohol? No more beer or vodka?
Suicide is not good. It's awful, and the process behind it is bleak and leaves behind more suffering than it ends. But if you look hard enough, you can see anything in anything, and to try and enforce opinions on others and make them march to a certain tune because some of us have experiences that hurt with certain life struggles or loss is absurd. Never once did I ever expect someone else to alter their life because I was down low and struggling with depression and anxiety, but then again - and I'm gonna sound like an old fart here - people weren't spending literal hours daily searching with purpose for something to be mad or outraged about back then either. It's a strange time societally, and I agree that people need to take a step back and chill a little. Whether you look for the good in life or the bad, you're gonna find what you look for, I guess...
U know the mgk hate is bad when even Ronnie said the amount he gets is insane
Since the guy did shit like say "13-15 year old's shouldn't be allowed to be so hot" and continuously made and makes creepy comments about lusting after people firmly in the statutory category i think he doesn't get enough hate.
@@fatbobby7552 I understand why a lot of ppl don't like him and that being true. But most ppl don't know any details about things he's said or done. At least half the hate is bc he dissed Eminem or they just didn't want to accept him into the scene. I'd say half the fans don't know why they hate him considering it's a lot of "mgk sucks" rather than "I don't like him bc of xyz."
$14,999 for one bridge pick up and obstructed high fret access is asking A LOT.
Pairing "take off the edge" with "jump off the ledge" isn't talking about that subject?? Okay, MGK.
I think it's important to remember how much attitudes towards mental health and self harm have changed in the past 20 years and how that would effect the attitudes towards razor blade imagry then verses now. Saying nobody would have cared about Dime releasing this guitar or pointing at the British Steel album cover (you were so close to understanding my point when you made the off-handed "different time" comment there) ignores that completly.
But everyone is OK with metal and rap lyrics talking about murder and suicide? literally on the top 10 of youtube right now. But an ugly guitar is a problem? It's a shit looking guitar but this is more people trying to find something to be outraged about.
Ban Razorblades! They can be turned into terrible guitars! We're all so offended!
@@AndreJHoward I never said anything to the contrary. I simply pointed out a fact that was glossed over regarding how the reception of the razor blade image has changed over time. Looks to me like you yourself have fallen into the trap of "trying to find something to be outraged about."
@@jeezycreezy4220 Nope I wasn't. I understood your point and I don't disagree with time and space being a factor ... I just think if you look at drill music or death metal these days the lyrics are WAYYYY fucking harder than would have been accepted 20 years ago but an ugly ass guitar is now offensive ... it seems silly and I honestly don't think people actually care that much they just need something to do with their time.
@@AndreJHoward all of that is true, however MGK isn't a drill music or death metal artist. He's pushing this in a pop-punk/emo scene, which is where the re-evaluation of the razorblade as a symbol has taken place. Not only are all of the presented examples of the razorblade being acceptable elsewhere 2 decades or more removed in time, but they're also brought up in scenes other than pop-punk/emo. Imagry that's acceptable in one music scene may not jive well in another. I primarily listen to industrial metal, but the distopian mechanical asthetic associated with than genre doesn't work too well for a country band. Symbols in music aren't universal, and applying the ideas of what's acceptable in one genre to a compleatly different genre is ignorant of that fact.
It's not the design that bugs me, it's the price. That thing is like, $1500. For a single, house brand pick-up, no pre-amp or even tone control, and a basswood body. Nothing on that justifies the price.
Tank doesn't like the design because it represents the enemy of that glorious beard of his.
Love your laugh, Tank
I really want to see the sales numbers for his sig models compared to all the other schecter sig models.
I keep seeing the argument that “hE iNsPirEs So MaNy pEoPlE tO pIcK uP tHe GuItAr.” I’m just really curious as to whether or not that dog hunts from a sales perspective.
TANK!!! if you liked Maximum The Hormone you should check The Hirsch Effekt - Agnosie // Off The Road Sessions really underrated band
This honestly looks like something H.I.M. would have come out with when Razorblade Romance came out.
People have killed with Axes before. A guitar is sometimes called an axe. Some are shaped well, like an axe.
Let’s start shaping guitars like hearts
Kudos for admitting this video is for easy UA-cam views 😂 That has been my firsts guess when seeing the thumbnail and to be fair, I clicked on it because I’m here for the drama that does not affect me personally.
Take my like and algorithm comment.
Usually signautre guitars are for people that actually can play guitar, and have changed music to make it better or are really inspiring artists. Squirt Gun Karaoke is no guitar player.
Even without any context, making your signature instrument a novelty guitar shaped like a household item doesn’t fill me with confidence in your artistic maturity and depth.
Dimebag Darrell would not have made a guitar that has no cutaway to reach those highest frets. That is definitely not a guitar made for anyone who plays lead guitar. 🤣
It's a fucking guitar. PEARL CLUTCHING NEEDS TO STOP!!!! It is not going to make kids unalive themselves.
Does it have a good sound?