I'm native american and this is one of the biggest obstacles on the reservations amongst native americans. It's seen as a white man's religion and is vehemently opposed by many. I always try to bring up what jesus said, "you believe in God, believe also in me.". I try to tell my native brothers and sisters that the Christian God is the God of Natives too, and God travelled across time and space to get the message to us as well. He is our God too. He is the God our ancestors worshipped, and he stepped into time and space to bring us home too.
Thanks for sharing, that's very powerful. I don't have much Native American heritage, but my Grandpa is half Turtle Mtn Chippewa and was raised Catholic. It always seemed like he didn't find his faith relevant until very recently. I'm not sure exactly what has changed, but I've wanted to talk to him about it. Do you know of apologists in the Native American community? I'm sure there are very unique challenges to faith in that context.
Well one of the First Christian Kingdoms was Ethiopia, another interesting example was the kingdom of Congo which became Catholic I believe 500 yeas ago and remained independent for 300 years. These examples are not directly related to the US but they are examples of centuries old traditional African Christian communities and cultures that exist to this day
Yes indeed. The Ethiopian Orthodox Church and the Egyptian Coptic and Greek Orthodox churches are some of the oldest in the world. Founded by Christ’s apostles themselves. Some of the oldest and most prolific ancient (pre Roman Catholic) Christian saints are from Africa.
"any" was most likely a rhetorical exaggeration, meaning something more like "there weren't many". Does VB engage in much apologetics in the US? I was unaware.
Ideas stand and fall on their own merit. Doesn't matter what color the person they come from is. That's something you learn from basic logic. "Championing black voices" is just upper class speak for "I pity these people." It's a shame to see even people like this still be infected wokeness, but I guess it just speaks to how much deeper these ideas are routed in our culture. Ultimately, they are an inevitable consequence of enlightenment principles, and as long as people can't understand that, they will continue to fail to escape them.
The Bible says: there is no Jews or Greek Roman which means in front of GOD eyes we are equal, but in Islam allah says that all black people will go to hell and he doesn't care and the judgment day only people with white face will enter "heaven " , watch the nightmare of allah Mohammed and Islam Christian Prince, Ahmad ex Muslim, Rob Christian, David wood, Speaker Corner, Cira international and see what Quran really teaches and don't be deceived by the lies of Islam and share with all the people that you can and protect and help your future family from the perversions of Islam
I think the point is more that in the cultural context of African American (or other African diaspora) communities, there are different ideas one must address when doing apologetics. Different cultures produce different barriers and areas of receptivity to the faith, no?
I'm native american and this is one of the biggest obstacles on the reservations amongst native americans. It's seen as a white man's religion and is vehemently opposed by many. I always try to bring up what jesus said, "you believe in God, believe also in me.". I try to tell my native brothers and sisters that the Christian God is the God of Natives too, and God travelled across time and space to get the message to us as well. He is our God too. He is the God our ancestors worshipped, and he stepped into time and space to bring us home too.
Thanks for sharing, that's very powerful. I don't have much Native American heritage, but my Grandpa is half Turtle Mtn Chippewa and was raised Catholic. It always seemed like he didn't find his faith relevant until very recently. I'm not sure exactly what has changed, but I've wanted to talk to him about it.
Do you know of apologists in the Native American community? I'm sure there are very unique challenges to faith in that context.
The darker it gets, the brighter we get to shine - amen! Thanks 🙏🏼
Well one of the First Christian Kingdoms was Ethiopia, another interesting example was the kingdom of Congo which became Catholic I believe 500 yeas ago and remained independent for 300 years. These examples are not directly related to the US but they are examples of centuries old traditional African Christian communities and cultures that exist to this day
Yes indeed. The Ethiopian Orthodox Church and the Egyptian Coptic and Greek Orthodox churches are some of the oldest in the world. Founded by Christ’s apostles themselves. Some of the oldest and most prolific ancient (pre Roman Catholic) Christian saints are from Africa.
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"I noticed there weren't any African americans leading in apologetic" - Voddie Baucham exists darling. His ministry has done good work for decades.
"any" was most likely a rhetorical exaggeration, meaning something more like "there weren't many". Does VB engage in much apologetics in the US? I was unaware.
Ideas stand and fall on their own merit. Doesn't matter what color the person they come from is. That's something you learn from basic logic.
"Championing black voices" is just upper class speak for "I pity these people." It's a shame to see even people like this still be infected wokeness, but I guess it just speaks to how much deeper these ideas are routed in our culture. Ultimately, they are an inevitable consequence of enlightenment principles, and as long as people can't understand that, they will continue to fail to escape them.
The Bible says: there is no Jews or Greek Roman which means in front of GOD eyes we are equal, but in Islam allah says that all black people will go to hell and he doesn't care and the judgment day only people with white face will enter "heaven " , watch the nightmare of allah Mohammed and Islam Christian Prince, Ahmad ex Muslim, Rob Christian, David wood, Speaker Corner, Cira international and see what Quran really teaches and don't be deceived by the lies of Islam and share with all the people that you can and protect and help your future family from the perversions of Islam
As a black guy, I agree fully with what you said. Seems it’s about race for every black guest on this show.
I think the point is more that in the cultural context of African American (or other African diaspora) communities, there are different ideas one must address when doing apologetics. Different cultures produce different barriers and areas of receptivity to the faith, no?