I'm coming from a premodern-Sufi background of Ibn Arabi where I was tracing the neo-platonism back to its roots in Plato's doctrine. These lectures are not only a great demonstration of understanding Plato but it's also helping me to decipher Ibn Arabi's Opus - Futuhat. Thank you for these smooth and rich lectures.
This is the most superb lecture on Plato I have ever heard - clarity, depth and insight coexisting in perfect harmony. It should be listened to by the smart guys at Google and in AI, by all sceptical 'smart-ass' debunkers, by David Hume, by religious fundamentalists and by the equally evangelical, 'We're-all-right-Jack' 'New Atheists', by naturalist philosophers who know it not, and by poets and mystics who at least have some sense of it. Most of all, it needs to be listened to by _me_ before I teach any more on Plato.
The difference between us not being mere beast not computing animal is that we can comperhend necessary truth. Wow that's so bellísimo Dr. Kreeft. Oh! If only Man know his dignity!!
At 31:20, Dr. Kreeft explains how we can know the Forms; namely, that they are "impressed" upon us from outside. In other words, they are revealed. Plato's light outside the cave, the meteor coming down from outer space, and the angel coming down the ladder from heaven are God's revelation to Mankind out of love. Orthodox Christians call this God's Uncreated Light, or His energies. True enlightenment is the participation in these energies, beginning with a repentant heart. Glory be to the Father, and to the Son, and to the Holy Spirit; both now, and ever, and unto the ages of ages. Amen.
God’s Uncreated Love - wonderful encapsulation of a humanly incomprehensible expression of divine unconditional love we should accept with unconditional gratitude. Many thanks to the Orthodox tradition for this concept from one of the Catholic tradition
These lectures were originally entitled "The Platonic Tradition: Understanding Plato's Impact through the Ages" Adjust your expectations accordingly. Only the first lecture is about Plato. Subsequent lectures are about other thinkers' reflections on Platonism.
I have a question, if we choose how to use our language does that mean we have an influence on platonic forms? Before the discovery of Australia the form of a "mammal" could be said to include animals that had fur and gave live birth. But upon the discovery of the platypus and echidna they were faced with a decision to classify them as a mammals or not. Does the nature of the platonic form mammal depend on the human choice we make to classify something as a mammal or not?
For me the example of a horse having to live in the real world as it is aside from Man's creations. Weather etc. And graze all day . Always foraging for food. Having the Dynamics of there own behavior and daily dramas. And being real about them. Concern and action. Horses hear better and longer and can see through a person's bull imediatly.
David Haggard I've been, until recently, far too busy to upload content. I'm now working on gathering the remaining lectures. They should be available sometime next week.
I love Peter Kreeft. But, the one thing I dislike is that videos 2 and 3, so far, have very little of Plato being talked about. Kreeft gave a primer on Plato in video one, and then we go to Aristotle, Plotinus, Augustine, and perhaps Aquinas is video four. The lecture is titled, "Plato." I want all of these vids to live up to their promise because I want to delve deeply into Plato. I will study the others after an in depth Plato lecture. ObjectiveBob, you need to change the title of these lectures to correspond with the figure being talked about. This is not a Plato lecture. Perhaps video four will return to Plato.
These lectures were originally entitled "The Platonic Tradition: Understanding Plato's Impact through the Ages" They are also available on Audible under that title. Does that clear it up for you?
thnx very much for these lectures. [ and P Kreeft] although hogwartian hogwiffery of the highest horder. hope to listen to all of the lectures ...all of which will be h.h. of the h. h..
I like Plato the epitome and central to Western culture philosophy n values and beliefs and politics! Plato said for God sake by all means get married. When you got a Good wife you’ll be happy but when you got a bad one you’ll become a Philosopher! I bet Plato have had a bad wife! K
Right off the bathroom seems to be a big hole in his theory , he says that nothing comes from nothing but then I bet he believes that God is an uncaused cause.
@@stevenicholson4714 @Steve Nicholson He was *born* in England and studied at Cambridge. He spent most of his life in England and didn't go to Harvard until the 20's. What source says he was an American citizen? Even if it is true, he wasn't so by birth.
Whitehead was a British philosopher and mathematician. And it is a shame that such an error occurs literally within the first two seconds of this lecture, as its content is not equally dubious or careless. Perhaps it is a rough way to begin but that, throughout the series, it is learned smooth sailing from there.
Peter Kreeft is a good popularizer of Western philosophic tradition, though it's a pity he is a hidebound dogmatist regarding his adherence to corrupt Catholic theology and ecclesiology, woefully ignorant of the Jewish roots of the Christian faith and -- this is important -- ancient Jewish contributions to philosophy long before the rise of pre-Socratic thinkers of ancient Greece in the 300's BC. After all, Abraham united the ideals of moral transcendence with that of an single First Cause and Creator some 1500 years BEFORE Plato was on the scene... Read King David's psalms or his son Solomon's works such as Ecclesiastes (i.e., Kohelet) for the world's first existential philosophy... etc.
@Prasanth Thomas when you're explaining what a certain philosopher thinks, and if you are a good philosophy teacher, i probably shouldnt be able to tell what your personal beliefs are. Doesnt matter if they're christian, Islamic, atheist, libertarian or communist. Its been a year since i watched this but i dont think my gripe was with him mentioning Augustine.
@Prasanth Thomas because im interested in what the philosopher has to say, not the professor. It seems you have different taste and different values from me. I suppose thats fine. Are you a Christian? If so, would you not find it distracting to parse out the beliefs of a the philosopher you're trying to study from the indoctrination of a lecturer who you are ideological opposed from?
I'm coming from a premodern-Sufi background of Ibn Arabi where I was tracing the neo-platonism back to its roots in Plato's doctrine. These lectures are not only a great demonstration of understanding Plato but it's also helping me to decipher Ibn Arabi's Opus - Futuhat. Thank you for these smooth and rich lectures.
Please get in contact with me, I would like to have a discussion on this ofzahm@gmail.com
Great. I would also try to reach u on this.
@Dugi Peter Kreeft would tell you how bad gnosticism is
This is the most superb lecture on Plato I have ever heard - clarity, depth and insight coexisting in perfect harmony. It should be listened to by the smart guys at Google and in AI, by all sceptical 'smart-ass' debunkers, by David Hume, by religious fundamentalists and by the equally evangelical, 'We're-all-right-Jack' 'New Atheists', by naturalist philosophers who know it not, and by poets and mystics who at least have some sense of it. Most of all, it needs to be listened to by _me_ before I teach any more on Plato.
My philosophy professors were pretty good, but Dr. Kreeft is a first-rate teacher.
Very well said that today there is philosopher that is relevant than Plato himself. Thank you for sharing this lecture.
The difference between us not being mere beast not computing animal is that we can comperhend necessary truth. Wow that's so bellísimo Dr. Kreeft. Oh! If only Man know his dignity!!
At 31:20, Dr. Kreeft explains how we can know the Forms; namely, that they are "impressed" upon us from outside. In other words, they are revealed.
Plato's light outside the cave, the meteor coming down from outer space, and the angel coming down the ladder from heaven are God's revelation to Mankind out of love. Orthodox Christians call this God's Uncreated Light, or His energies. True enlightenment is the participation in these energies, beginning with a repentant heart.
Glory be to the Father, and to the Son, and to the Holy Spirit; both now, and ever, and unto the ages of ages. Amen.
God’s Uncreated Love - wonderful encapsulation of a humanly incomprehensible expression of divine unconditional love we should accept with unconditional gratitude. Many thanks to the Orthodox tradition for
this concept from one of the Catholic tradition
These lectures were originally entitled "The Platonic Tradition: Understanding Plato's Impact through the Ages"
Adjust your expectations accordingly. Only the first lecture is about Plato. Subsequent lectures are about other thinkers' reflections on Platonism.
Thank you ObjectiveBob , so so much! Waiting for the other lectures in this series.
gumnaaji,huh
1000
***** What is it, Joshua ji?
Dont fret on the Forms.......its all about SELF , know thySELF
Most all lecturers have a sufficient understanding of their subject but very few can "sing", as it were. Peter Kreeft is a troubadour.
Really appreciate this video.
Thank you much for uploading this wonderful lecture!
Brilliant. Thank you.
Aren't we discovering the Absolute one platonic idea at the time until all the colors retransform back into white light? Is this the purpose of time?
Can you please upload the rest? Or did you already? Can you upload the Faith and Reason lectures too those are classics thanks!
I have a question, if we choose how to use our language does that mean we have an influence on platonic forms? Before the discovery of Australia the form of a "mammal" could be said to include animals that had fur and gave live birth. But upon the discovery of the platypus and echidna they were faced with a decision to classify them as a mammals or not. Does the nature of the platonic form mammal depend on the human choice we make to classify something as a mammal or not?
What is the best English translation for The Republic?
Do lectures 5,6,7 & 8 exist?
How can we get lectures 5, 6 and 7?
Great lectures.. but where are the last four lectures... Objective bob?
Thank you so much for these extremely interesting lectures. Will you upload lectures 5&6?
Thank you again
For me the example of a horse having to live in the real world as it is aside from Man's creations. Weather etc. And graze all day . Always foraging for food. Having the Dynamics of there own behavior and daily dramas. And being real about them. Concern and action. Horses hear better and longer and can see through a person's bull imediatly.
Where can we get the other lectures in the series?
David Haggard
I've been, until recently, far too busy to upload content. I'm now working on gathering the remaining lectures. They should be available sometime next week.
Do you listen to any podcasts?
GREAT LECTURE ...
Thank you for being you
Thanks!
Dr Kreeft broke the code and shared it here
Is that a rude sign that Plato is making?
Thank you.
I love Peter Kreeft. But, the one thing I dislike is that videos 2 and 3, so far, have very little of Plato being talked about. Kreeft gave a primer on Plato in video one, and then we go to Aristotle, Plotinus, Augustine, and perhaps Aquinas is video four. The lecture is titled, "Plato." I want all of these vids to live up to their promise because I want to delve deeply into Plato. I will study the others after an in depth Plato lecture. ObjectiveBob, you need to change the title of these lectures to correspond with the figure being talked about. This is not a Plato lecture. Perhaps video four will return to Plato.
These lectures were originally entitled "The Platonic Tradition: Understanding Plato's Impact through the Ages"
They are also available on Audible under that title.
Does that clear it up for you?
Nice.
Plato is my last name I like it,
I want to know is why oh why didn't they tech me this in School. 🤔🙄😥
So you never came up with other lectures?
Mahwish Baloch
No. Unfortunately I wasn't able to get the audio. The other lectures will not be posted.
thnx very much for these lectures. [ and P Kreeft] although hogwartian hogwiffery of the highest horder. hope to listen to all of the lectures ...all of which will be h.h. of the h. h..
PORCUPINE TREE WOOHOOO
I like Plato the epitome and central to Western culture philosophy n values and beliefs and politics! Plato said for God sake by all means get married. When you got a Good wife you’ll be happy but when you got a bad one you’ll become a Philosopher! I bet Plato have had a bad wife! K
Socrates said that about the wife
The type writer is Salman
Right off the bathroom seems to be a big hole in his theory , he says that nothing comes from nothing but then I bet he believes that God is an uncaused cause.
Wow ... We all new him personally.. School is a control institute... Sheep
Is this legal to post, isn't this stealing Kreeft's property?
Mike Stapleton
Probably not, and probably.
Whitehead was English, although he taught in USA after 1923. Amazing mistake at the very beginning.
Lol what? Alfred North Whitehead was NOT American.... off to a bad start.
@@stevenicholson4714 @Steve Nicholson He was *born* in England and studied at Cambridge. He spent most of his life in England and didn't go to Harvard until the 20's. What source says he was an American citizen? Even if it is true, he wasn't so by birth.
Whitehead was a British philosopher and mathematician. And it is a shame that such an error occurs literally within the first two seconds of this lecture, as its content is not equally dubious or careless. Perhaps it is a rough way to begin but that, throughout the series, it is learned smooth sailing from there.
Oh if only some snowflake blundered onto this, and then had the nous, courage and honesty to disseminate it.
politics existed for thousands of years without 'human rights'
@Prasanth Thomas human rights are a recent product of one particular school of political thought, liberalism. im not a fan of "human rights"
Plato was literally talking about mushrooms. It’s not as deep as you think you can experience it for yourself.
No no
Peter Kreeft is a good popularizer of Western philosophic tradition, though it's a pity he is a hidebound dogmatist regarding his adherence to corrupt Catholic theology and ecclesiology, woefully ignorant of the Jewish roots of the Christian faith and -- this is important -- ancient Jewish contributions to philosophy long before the rise of pre-Socratic thinkers of ancient Greece in the 300's BC. After all, Abraham united the ideals of moral transcendence with that of an single First Cause and Creator some 1500 years BEFORE Plato was on the scene... Read King David's psalms or his son Solomon's works such as Ecclesiastes (i.e., Kohelet) for the world's first existential philosophy... etc.
"Source of all philosophical errors"? Oh, come on
Bad sign when I can tell the lecturer is a Christian apologist in the first five minutes...
@Prasanth Thomas you can be a Christian and teach philosophy in such a way that does not immediately reveal bias.
@Prasanth Thomas when you're explaining what a certain philosopher thinks, and if you are a good philosophy teacher, i probably shouldnt be able to tell what your personal beliefs are. Doesnt matter if they're christian, Islamic, atheist, libertarian or communist.
Its been a year since i watched this but i dont think my gripe was with him mentioning Augustine.
@Prasanth Thomas because im interested in what the philosopher has to say, not the professor.
It seems you have different taste and different values from me. I suppose thats fine.
Are you a Christian? If so, would you not find it distracting to parse out the beliefs of a the philosopher you're trying to study from the indoctrination of a lecturer who you are ideological opposed from?
@Prasanth Thomas 👍