Philosophy of Plato (Part 2: Allegory of the Cave)

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  • @innocentjunior342
    @innocentjunior342 4 роки тому +4

    Politicians, Marketers, Misleading family and friends, Religion as forms of incarnated contemporary sophistry misleading the mundane with superficial concepts...
    Prof. George you amaze me with magnificent philosophical explanations...

  • @musselchee9560
    @musselchee9560 4 роки тому +15

    THANK YOU. I dropped out of high school barely able to read or write. The up-heaval for me occurred competing unsuccessfully in Family Court litigation against five lawyers, five Magistrates and three Psychologists. Before the substantive court hearing, in five months I forced myself to read about Socrates from 10 pages in a child's encyclopedia before discovering Platos Republic. Reading, or rather trying to read that took me deep into an unknown but amazing world that went far beyond the court case. Today I am a much better person for it.

    • @georgebrooks7775
      @georgebrooks7775  4 роки тому +6

      And that is exactly what philosophy is supposed to do for you--not just something for academics to ponder, but something that helps us become good citizens and our best, true self. Be well.

    • @musselchee9560
      @musselchee9560 4 роки тому +1

      @@georgebrooks7775 Today I am reading/struggling my way through Conrad Russell's The Crisis of Parliaments English History 1509-1660. I'm learning what is natural law, and the importance of precedence. That Republic I read was the original four volume set. Now I own an English 1/2 volume translation! Be safe.

  • @athenassigil5820
    @athenassigil5820 5 років тому +23

    You're an excellent prof! Love these lectures and you make the teachings of Plato both in a everyday vernacular, but you also make his more mystical teachings very accessible. Bravo!

  • @aurajae
    @aurajae 4 роки тому +56

    "I'd rather be right than consistent", great quote.

    • @aurajae
      @aurajae 4 роки тому

      @chair power davros You lost me. Rephrase and/or verify English please.

    • @shefchenko111
      @shefchenko111 3 роки тому +1

      They are not mutually exclusive, so... dumb quote. :D

    • @StarsOnProjectors
      @StarsOnProjectors 3 роки тому

      @Samuel Clark Samuel, I am misunderstanding your comment. What exactly leads you to believe that Aura does not understand the semantics of mutually exclusive?

    • @Titan1x77b
      @Titan1x77b 3 роки тому +1

      .... And I don't mind being wrong.

  • @frocker151
    @frocker151 7 років тому +25

    Thanks for publishing these videos. I've been meaning to get a better understanding of Plato's ideas for a long time now and these have both really helped.

  • @pauljoseph8691
    @pauljoseph8691 4 роки тому +9

    Ah the plane of ideas is a real place. It is also referred to as the plane of ideals. These things are not just theories apparently for some rare beings at least. Some say that Plato embodies the Indian Advaita tradition, see Raphael, an Italian philosopher who speaks of this Knowledge or Gnosis. Beautiful presentation. Yes the knowledge recovery is through the Socratic method as he mentions, which we were privileged to be able to use at University. It also requires respect of the student and their soul. Steiner is also a marvellous source.

  • @chrischris4788
    @chrischris4788 Рік тому

    Thank you Dr. Prof George Brooks and class, for a conversation that will never end.

  • @shobadboy25
    @shobadboy25 2 роки тому +2

    Watched both the lectures on Plato. Thank you so much for making this available. Your explanations are simple to understand.

  • @AstromuonKuki
    @AstromuonKuki 2 роки тому +3

    Evil:absence of ignorance of the good. I love it.

  • @M3nPower
    @M3nPower 5 років тому +7

    Sir you are amazing at teaching. This should be taught in every class and every year so we can all remember that this is not the reality. Thank you again and please post more of your lectures. You are changing lives.

  • @tallulahwonders2816
    @tallulahwonders2816 4 роки тому +5

    i appreciate your lectures being available here, thank you so much!

  • @paulmarr7873
    @paulmarr7873 11 місяців тому

    Hope you’re getting paid from the ads they stuck in. Love your content!! Since the passing of Dr Sugrue I have been looking for quality leadership in philosophy and you are my new go to. Thanks again!

  • @redortega6162
    @redortega6162 3 роки тому +1

    A fan here from the Philippines! In our country, education is really an opportunity and blessing! Thank you to youtube and to the uploader of this video because people like me who didn't have the opportunity to have a better education somehow have the idea on what is happening inside the classroom and be educated just like the blessed ones! From the bottom of my heart, THANK YOU!

  • @samnzimande
    @samnzimande 4 роки тому +2

    Watching this from South Africa 🇿🇦 Thank you🙏🏽

  • @777frogster
    @777frogster 5 років тому +5

    Thank you for sharing these - they are very inspired, and easy to digest! Would be great to be able to watch the earlier lectures (s) on Socrates too...

  • @79shehri
    @79shehri Рік тому +1

    Thank you for uploading I will show this to my kids some day❤

  • @ekkoftime
    @ekkoftime 3 роки тому +3

    George, dude you're awesome explaining all that, making it look so simple when we know that those are hard concept to digest.
    I just can say thanks, you're amazing!

  • @gcnggcng9373
    @gcnggcng9373 3 роки тому

    This professor is really good. I can understand what he's teaching.

  • @Dontdatefeminist
    @Dontdatefeminist 4 роки тому +1

    I came across your lecture and it was amazing especially teaching allegory of the cave at 52 years old I've never heard of that until tonight, 13 to 25 minutes for the first time I actually felt someone that understood me I've been feeling like that for a long time I don't want to bring religion into this but I've been studying Buddhism and it has a lot of similar philosophy as you would put it or teachings.. it came apparent that years ago I was coming out of that cave I thank you so much for making me feel someone finally understands me!

  • @cullenami
    @cullenami 3 роки тому +2

    28:11 I stopped when he insinuated those who go to college are the ones climbing out of the cave and those who didn't are stuck inside it. He Then followed it up with get rid of your friends who disagree with you.

    • @georgebrooks7775
      @georgebrooks7775  3 роки тому +1

      I insinuated nothing of the sort. I was giving an example that a class full of college students might relate to. If you hadn't been so hasty to make a judgement and slammed the door shut on a potential learning experience, you would have found just the opposite. There are many ways to escape the cave...you just didn't have the tenacity to finish the discussion and get to that part.

    • @cullenami
      @cullenami 3 роки тому +1

      @@georgebrooks7775 I moved on to other discussions with less arrogance.

    • @georgebrooks7775
      @georgebrooks7775  3 роки тому

      @@cullenami Translation: "I am too much of a chicken-shit to go back and listen to the rest of the lecture and realize I was completely wrong". --yeah, got it.

    • @cullenami
      @cullenami 3 роки тому +1

      @@georgebrooks7775 I planned on admitting I was wrong and finishing the video(I have been busy had time to think about it), thanks for affirming my initial impression of you. You like to talk down to those you feel are inferior to you. Why equate a persons social status(no college and low end job) with their ability to understand the universe? You cant be friends with someone that does not view the world the same way you do? Seems elitist.

    • @cullenami
      @cullenami 3 роки тому +1

      @@georgebrooks7775 I enjoyed part one more than part two, I liked your explanation of forms. You need to work on taking criticism. I understand what you were saying with not changing but the mention of job and education was not relevant to a persons path to enlightenment, it comes across as arrogance. The problem with telling your students that everyone else will feel alien to them is insinuating that they will be right and the "uneducated" will be wrong. The problem is that students often get stuck watching a live stream of the outside world that their professors setup for them. They only see a tree and don't believe anyone telling them their is an entire forest. You should not distance yourself from friends just because they don't have the same understanding of the world.

  • @AlexHop1
    @AlexHop1 2 роки тому

    Great lecture! I particularly learned from your example of growing up in the South and gaining a new understanding of the Civil War upon studying American history. Thank you!

  • @megerewarren8168
    @megerewarren8168 6 років тому +1

    you're great at lecturing..effortless and captivating.Earned a new subscriber

  • @osogrizz2841
    @osogrizz2841 4 роки тому

    I'll keep my critiques to myself, but finally someone that mentions the relationship of the cave to the divided line.

  • @JohnnyD253
    @JohnnyD253 3 роки тому +1

    Wish I had a teacher like this guy when I was in school

  • @ameremortal
    @ameremortal 5 років тому

    You really got me thinking by asking questions instead of just lecturing.

  • @aditirajput4143
    @aditirajput4143 4 роки тому

    I don't know about others but as many lecturar i find out they all are amazing while teaching this greatest discipline😊😇 Thank you so much for uploding

  • @chinwali6297
    @chinwali6297 2 роки тому

    happy to watch the excellent teaching with illustrative diagram on the the allegory of Cave. I taught the allegory in some classes in the past by referring more often to the original Platonic text (in Chinese or English translation) to refer to what 'chains' were referred by Plato before we have freer interpretation beyond the text. Also I would refer to the possible alternative of breaking the chains by the prisoner himself rather than 'helped' by the 'teacher' as mentioned in the text. All could create good conversations among students that enlighten self-reflection. The talk by Professor on life example of Susi on after effect of watching Victoria Secret is excellent. Thanks!

  • @1gonzo324
    @1gonzo324 8 років тому +7

    I greatly admire and enjoy his ideas as he was seeking the perfect form of truth. wonderful job on these videos I have to share these with many of my friends a nice gentle approach as well as with the previous video

  • @Fagulhu
    @Fagulhu Рік тому

    5:30 - Being born is to recollect memories from when you were in primitive form (this concept is mirrored, maybe, in the Bible; Jesus is said to live a life remembering things from when he was a spiritual being)
    7:40 - Socratic method (this also maybe inspired the creation of the Jesus figure. The whole characteristic of questioning people, inducing them to learn through another point of view, illustrations)
    10:00 - Mênon (Meno)
    19:00 - Explaining the cave

  • @AlejandroMarsinoHidalgo
    @AlejandroMarsinoHidalgo 7 місяців тому +2

    Parents are the first ones to give us their ignorance.

  • @jasoncoryclay
    @jasoncoryclay 2 роки тому

    Thank you, great lectures!!! Better than anything out there on cable!

  • @arjunrathore8950
    @arjunrathore8950 Рік тому

    What a great teacher!! The students are very fortunate. 🙏🙏

  • @AlphabyteMusic
    @AlphabyteMusic 5 років тому

    Incredibly thankful for these uploads.

  • @eamonnwright5557
    @eamonnwright5557 5 років тому +11

    What do you do when universities and publishing houses become the puppeteer’s ?

    • @sataridis
      @sataridis 4 роки тому +4

      In that case, one may start with a couple of lectures on UA-cam, proceed then to do some reading, begin to always apply critical thinking in the important aspects and decisions in one's life and try to better one's own self over time. The climb out of the cave is always hard - with or without mentors, professors and method - but nothing stops one but one's chains

  • @thezzach
    @thezzach 6 років тому +1

    I left the cave years ago. I had a four hour ketamine infusion recently for chronic pain. I returned to the Platonic level of FORMS George Brooks mentions in this lecture. I experienced it for what seemed like eternity. It was so perfect I wanted to never leave again. I look forward to returning permanently.
    Thx for the excellent lecture, George.

    • @pauljoseph8691
      @pauljoseph8691 4 роки тому +1

      Zachary Hlavinka Hey wonderful. You got it. It is real. Yes This stuff is real. Blessings for sharing

  • @gameshot586
    @gameshot586 6 років тому

    This has changed my life and for that. Thank you so much.

    • @gameshot586
      @gameshot586 4 роки тому

      @chair power davros well this just proves you're an idiot......

  • @violetflame5290
    @violetflame5290 5 років тому +1

    These videos were so illuminating to watch. Thank you for uploading! If possible, please upload more! I would love to learn more from you. Your style of philosophical teaching is fantastic and quick to grasp.

  •  6 років тому

    This was explained to me at the university four years ago, but very simplified and at that time it didn't have the power to influence me on a path of enlightment. Now this helps. Thank you!

  • @seanburke6282
    @seanburke6282 7 років тому +6

    Apparently people watching this thought it was "Philosophy of George (Part 2: Allegory of the Cave)". Great Lecture!

  • @sovereign2790
    @sovereign2790 6 років тому

    please upload more of your philosophy lectures. A valuable resource for learning

  • @Expedition_Entrada
    @Expedition_Entrada 6 років тому

    Please upload all videos of western philosophers ..great explanation and lucid lecture . Thank you

  • @shekharsinhavicky
    @shekharsinhavicky 7 років тому

    Thank you once again . I was lost in your world while watching. Shekhar sinha, New Delhi , India.

  • @tanapoomohmwattanavijitkul7052
    @tanapoomohmwattanavijitkul7052 4 роки тому

    You are very articulate ! Thank you for your lectures!

  • @四季朝
    @四季朝 6 років тому +9

    Please make more videos, even if its just talking about random subjects you like. We need more content.
    I know you are probably busy, but even short form content (5-15 mins) is fine!

  • @PatySeti2024
    @PatySeti2024 7 років тому +1

    Woowwww! This guy is wonderful!!! I loooove his lecture! It should be made a tour de force among students at every school everywhere!

  • @evanriddle1614
    @evanriddle1614 6 років тому

    A priest told me to read psalms 23 for penance and also, now get this, read book VII of plato's republic. I like this guy. He puts the hay down where the horses can get it.

  • @kingmaker8125
    @kingmaker8125 6 років тому

    Thank you sir!!! awsome lecture. I have never seen this type of lecturing

  • @simeonarsov1214
    @simeonarsov1214 7 років тому

    Thank you for this leture. Without you i might have failed my exam because i was thinking about it in a whole differenet way.You made me understand it all. So Thank you from Bulgaria!

  • @treefrog3349
    @treefrog3349 7 років тому +28

    Best lecture I have ever experienced! Socrates reincarnated.

  • @TheThundercow
    @TheThundercow 4 роки тому

    Imagine Plato seeing you thank him for the world we have today

  • @johnweaver1835
    @johnweaver1835 6 років тому

    The man is doing an excellent job. Hang in there with him.He is teaching the basics of Biblical hermeneutics. Study to show yourself approved unto God.Don’t give him a carte blance , just prove all things and hold fast to that which is good.

    • @nobbysmith9137
      @nobbysmith9137 5 років тому

      No he's teaching philosophy. What organized religion does with it isn't
      Important here.

  • @antnev519
    @antnev519 6 років тому

    Philosophy teacher facts about view of our surroundings truths was amazing.

  • @sololake6842
    @sololake6842 6 років тому

    Did he just concludes his lecture by applying the line across the board as the last piece of the puzzle? What a genius way to give a lecture!?

  • @lupusdei0819
    @lupusdei0819 5 років тому +2

    Guess this is where they got the idea of the Truman show

  • @paladin995893
    @paladin995893 4 роки тому +1

    Hard sub even before the end
    Blessed , I am jealous of your students.

  • @samlyons6408
    @samlyons6408 3 роки тому +1

    I’m curious what school this is from but this man deserves a raise.. Clear, to the point and unbiased. Hats off to you sir.
    Thank you for posting, even if it was only intended for your students. I greatly appreciate it..

  • @mariasalas8475
    @mariasalas8475 Рік тому

    I understand that I do live in world in the world going to come to me. Since I'm the one that pick and choose who stands next to me at all times. And I've been like that on my life it's not an inviting place to be but it is very very sense of. Completion. A renewal.

  • @raouldegendre2571
    @raouldegendre2571 5 років тому +1

    your lecture is excellent and I hope to hear/ read many more by you ! very good to understand and absorb ! thanks R

  • @AlexHutchingsOfficial
    @AlexHutchingsOfficial 6 років тому +6

    Remember that professors are not excluded from groups that aren't always looking out for your best interest. Many people believe that professors understand truth, historical and present, better than others. When it comes to history, especially controversial and touchy subjects, it needs to be examined from both sides with primary and secondary sources. History is written by the victors... but according to professors this apparently doesn't apply to recent Western history. Teachers are also in the shackles of the cave, and sometimes they hold the statues. Nonetheless, great lecture!

    • @georgebrooks7775
      @georgebrooks7775  6 років тому +2

      Real "teachers" guide people into the realm of critical thinking so they can function independently, evaluate evidence, and draw their own rational conclusions. It is certainly true that sometimes "preachers" of various ideologies manage to get the job of teacher and misunderstand the mission of education.

    • @handijames
      @handijames 6 років тому +1

      you missed the point

  • @Seal-hs5il
    @Seal-hs5il 3 роки тому

    Your comments on Ford vs Chevy brought back memories. I am form Australia and over here we had bitter rivalries between Ford fans and Holden fans (Holden is the Australian badge for General Motors).

  • @rik-keymusic160
    @rik-keymusic160 7 років тому +5

    This could be a very good TED talk for a lot of people!

  • @enseneabdisa1082
    @enseneabdisa1082 5 років тому +1

    Wow. I can watch this lecture even if it were 3 hours without blinking my eyes. So educative.

  • @naomikoopmans
    @naomikoopmans 5 років тому +2

    Thank youi for this exquisite lecture!

  • @asmrtimes7897
    @asmrtimes7897 4 місяці тому

    Can you make more videos on philosophy pop sciences and international relations????

  • @alessandropaci4299
    @alessandropaci4299 3 роки тому

    this man is so funny and good teacher

  • @alexandertsvetanov1320
    @alexandertsvetanov1320 5 років тому +2

    Thank you so much for posting these 2 lectures! I really loved them! ❤️

  • @pedrocortez1683
    @pedrocortez1683 Рік тому

    Thank you for sharing your knowledge.

  • @otonielgonzalez6174
    @otonielgonzalez6174 4 роки тому

    min 12:11 , aren't there 12 triangles?, what about the 4 isosceles triangles ??
    this is why it was difficult for me to understand stuff, if a person asks me how many triangles there are, imma count all the fkn triangles there are, regardless of the size and position.

  • @moss9310
    @moss9310 7 років тому +1

    Really appreciate these uploads, great series George I'll be following along thank you

  • @sweetcandy1547
    @sweetcandy1547 4 роки тому

    Beautiful and interesting lecture ... thanks !!

  • @jurgenblick5491
    @jurgenblick5491 5 років тому

    Can you do a lecture on Plotinus or the dialog of Gorgious. Love your way of teaching

  • @gator6551
    @gator6551 5 років тому

    this is what had hoped for when I took Philosophy in college.
    I dropped the class. All these years later, I am doubling back to learn what I had
    hoped to learn back then. thanks.

  • @steve5123456789
    @steve5123456789 5 років тому +1

    54:00 To bad it doesn't put bread on the table. Plato should of mentioned bread and wine for the belly VS higher Virtue if he wanted anyone to follow him seriously. Because everything will come down to that in the end. The physical.

    • @josephsmyth832
      @josephsmyth832 5 років тому

      steve5123456789 Only slaves think about the material and physical. You can leverage this for the physical

    • @steve5123456789
      @steve5123456789 5 років тому

      @@josephsmyth832 People have to eat and work for money. There's no escaping it

    • @josephsmyth832
      @josephsmyth832 5 років тому

      steve5123456789 No escaping the machine? Knowledge is more valuable than money because you need knowledge to function in this world so you can make money. Knowledge is a valuable good and money is a useful good

    • @steve5123456789
      @steve5123456789 5 років тому

      @@josephsmyth832 Not anymore. Everything is behind a paywall and held hostage. Even higher education for jobs that required no such formal training in the past.

    • @josephsmyth832
      @josephsmyth832 5 років тому

      steve5123456789 How about using the library including the law library? I really don’t see an excuse to go to school. Personally my level of knowledge is higher including learning law than even the HR advisor at my corporate job as most people are attached to their level of job and education. I am constantly learning and staying current. Objective truth can protect anyone

  • @elizabethmanessis5187
    @elizabethmanessis5187 6 років тому +3

    I obsoletely love love your lecture. The only thing I do not agree on is that we are totally a free country. We have more rules and stupid laws than we can count. Freedom is relative. But yes we are free in many ways, and limited at the same time. Great job on your lecture.

    • @josephsmyth832
      @josephsmyth832 5 років тому

      Elizabeth Manessis Have you heard of the 7 liberal arts and sciences known as the Trivium and Quadrivium (mind and matter) ? You mentioned laws but there is a difference between positive law and Natural Law. Positive law is based on the Hegelian Dialectic (subjective logic) and Natural Law is based on the laws of logic (objective logic) Government jurisdiction falls within Natural Law as impartiality has to be used.

  • @Frogtree71
    @Frogtree71 6 років тому

    Thanks George Brooks, I thoroughly enjoyed your videos that I have watched so far. You are obviously a very talented teacher. Please post more when you have the time.

  • @user-fz9ei1ig5s
    @user-fz9ei1ig5s 4 роки тому

    Everybody needs to know this stuff

  • @robertdavis4192
    @robertdavis4192 6 років тому +1

    I get the Matrix now, Neo was the dude who 1st left the cave and returned to liberate the prisoners.

    • @laopodis
      @laopodis 5 років тому

      No, he was not. The guy that freed Morpheus was the first one.

  • @devonaustin6496
    @devonaustin6496 4 місяці тому

    I feel like I can’t gain knowledge because I don’t agree with my own thoughts as they are developing. I’m skeptical of the validity and relevance of all facts.
    For example … I’m stuck between thinking that my life is insignificant in comparison to the timespan/size of the universe and thinking that it is super important because it is so rare in comparison to the timespan/size of the universe.
    ^That would be assuming that the universe is as big and old as they say. Assuming that I’m even alive…
    I want to be wise and seek knowledge but I cannot stop questioning everything long enough to retain anything. I’ve developed a bad habit of contradictory thought. Heck I think that’s the only thing that’s certain.
    Any tips and or books you can recommend?

    • @georgebrooks7775
      @georgebrooks7775  3 місяці тому

      The fact that you are asking such questions means you are already on the path of the philosopher. Do not despair...you are in the company of the thousands of philosophers and poets who have pondered the same questions. I don't know what to recommend...there are so many paths you might start on to get to your destination. I began with "Illusions" by Richard Bach...but you might find wisdom and your prod elsewhere. Happy journey to you.

  • @mariasalas8475
    @mariasalas8475 Рік тому

    What I was feeling was. Same feeling same day. Same feeding the next day same feeding for 3 months. Stuck k in the mud. Our tirea from spending but we was getting deeper and deeper into the mud. Something something triggered spontaneous. Something triggered for us to move out of that chains that held both of us down..... Something triggered us to move from that cave.

  • @sloveniadave
    @sloveniadave 2 роки тому

    Lost me with the cars - not a driver and not from the US - but the cave explanation was excellent, thank you!

  • @NamiDolo
    @NamiDolo 6 років тому

    Learning for free I love it. Thank you.

    • @georgebrooks7775
      @georgebrooks7775  6 років тому +1

      Delighted to provide the unintentional service! Thanks for watching.

  • @mikerollag3927
    @mikerollag3927 4 роки тому

    Wow what an ending........ Thank you sir.

  • @SirBargvis
    @SirBargvis 4 роки тому

    Wow, these two lectures surprisingly brought me closer to my faith... Awesome lecture man!

  • @konradkosciewicz603
    @konradkosciewicz603 6 років тому +1

    Absolutely great. Thank you :)

  • @jameso4734
    @jameso4734 4 роки тому

    Sensational. Thankyou for uploading.

  • @Krasbin
    @Krasbin 3 роки тому

    Just as a note of the LOGOS level of transportation:
    I live in the Netherlands. The norm for commuting is by bike, not by car. That is, unless you come from a small village far from cities. The interesting thing is that children can go to school independently from the age of about 8. So in that sense, there is more freedom for kids.
    There are several channels on this:
    Not Just Bikes
    BicycleDutch
    Strong Towns
    etc.

    • @georgebrooks7775
      @georgebrooks7775  3 роки тому

      Good point. The LOGOS level is always the most speculative and subjective--Plato never really made clear how you knew you were at that level. My example is clearly conditioned by the context of giving this lecture to first year American college students. Incidentally, I truly wish I were giving this lecture to students in The Netherlands--one of my favorite countries! I've been there many times, to probably 20 Dutch cities, from Amsterdam to Gouda. I devoted a chunk of my dissertation on medieval technology to the innovative Dutch of the 13th-century that began applying windmill technology to draining the shallow seas and transforming the swamp to a thriving urban culture. I love how the old parts of Dutch towns are designed like a machine of bricks: roads, bridges, buildings all seamlessly woven together to create cities out of swamp--the people who "harnessed the wind to fight the sea" created some of the first genuinely modern cities in my view. One of my favorite places in the world is the Hoge Veluwe nature preserve outside of Arnhem, with the free white bicycles you ride through the forest to the Kroller-Muller museum--I've spent three of my birthdays there! Ah, Holland...can't wait to escape pandemic lockdown and travel again. I haven't heard 'alstublieft' in far too long! Cheers.

    • @Krasbin
      @Krasbin 3 роки тому

      @@georgebrooks7775 I can readily understand that a good lecturer knows what to communicate in a given context. And clearly, your audience is used to a more car centric approach to transportation.
      Mind you, I really liked the lectures, also the one on Idealism. I also have a question on these topics.
      I have been thinking a lot about how we humans think, but this is without a strong foundation, which I lack. Therefore this often goes along routes often traveled but rarely fruitful.
      From these lectures and by listening to Iain McGilchrist as well, I arrived at two aspects in the process of thinking/acting:
      heuristics and logics.
      As humans, we want to act in reality.
      Through heuristics (dreams, vision(s), insight, intuition, etc.) we generalize information, so that we can perceive a map of reality. We understand reality.
      Through logics (symbolic/abstract/deductive reasoning), we specialize information, so that we can act within the map of reality. We grasp reality.
      Idealism, with its abstract forms in the middle and LOGOS at the top, seems to privilege, abstract and symbolic, logics.
      But is there not also a place for, embodied and non-symbolic, heuristics?

    • @georgebrooks7775
      @georgebrooks7775  3 роки тому +1

      @@Krasbin Well, first off, Plato was not necessarily right about everything--he is arguably the most influential philosopher in Western history, but he also operated in the first blush of philosophical inquiry--we know a whole lot more about how things work today than Plato did. He had to postulate his theories of epistemology and the nature of evil without any of the conceptual structures of psychology, or even an understanding of what the brain is for--thinking was just the ability of a rational soul in his framework. I think you could argue that Plato was trying to make a systematic philosophy of knowledge out of what we might call today "representative heuristics"--trying to analyze the mind's habit of finding general, abstract prototypes from experienced examples of "chair" "horse" "beauty" etc.

    • @Krasbin
      @Krasbin 3 роки тому

      @@georgebrooks7775 Fair enough, modern (let alone post-modern) thinking can not be expected from someone like Plato, who was responsible for laying down many principles of thinking we still consider foundational.

  • @simflyr1957
    @simflyr1957 3 роки тому

    Politics, Marketers, Media, Religion, ... Teachers... Edited to add; I am 64 and to me there are 2 opposing truths and somewhere in the middle is the REAL truth!

  • @philferroni
    @philferroni 3 роки тому

    Thank you for posting your video!!

  • @kontos2495
    @kontos2495 4 роки тому

    bro you are really good! thanks for the lecture

  • @teragreg2927
    @teragreg2927 7 років тому

    Keep filming your lectures George!

  • @elenadarling4697
    @elenadarling4697 4 роки тому

    If this guy was my dad I would’ve graduated college prematurely.

  • @akiinefaexperiencinglife
    @akiinefaexperiencinglife 4 роки тому

    I love your lectures

  • @Brian.001
    @Brian.001 3 роки тому

    Hah! As a philosophy lecturer I can readily back you up on those pet hates. Number 1 is also referred to as 'the introductory paragraph' of an essay.

  • @michaellovell2518
    @michaellovell2518 6 років тому

    How can one leave the cave and not wonder whether what is seen outside is not also an illusion? Socrates understood that he was not "wise," and that he "knew" nothing. Academia was glaringly omitted from the list of "manipulators" that can interfere with a quest for higher understanding. But what do I know? I only finished 8th grade, and slept through much of my "lower" education...

    • @georgebrooks7775
      @georgebrooks7775  6 років тому

      People who have had no experience with college are often skeptical of its value, and even antagonistic to it if they watch too much Fox news. The reality, is that while grade school teaches you stuff, higher education has as its central purpose the teaching of how to think for yourself. We follow a tradition that goes back to Socrates: ask questions, don't think too highly of your own opinions, encourage others to ask questions, and be ready to either defend your opinions, or have the courage to change them if confronted by evidence or rational argument that shows them to be in error. Cheers.

    • @michaellovell2518
      @michaellovell2518 6 років тому

      My experience leads me to believe that college fails in that purpose more often than it succeeds, and is not an essential path to that end. I can see the value in higher education for some, but believe it is wasted on many. For some, I believe it does more harm than good. This is by no means an indictment of higher education itself, but more a reflection of many who pursue it perhaps (and the egos often built by scholastic achievement). I think college is viewed as a means to an end by many, the ultimate goal being economic advantage. People seem more focused on a quest for things than a desire for understanding. Are courses in philosophy as popular as courses pertaining to finance and economics? Do they share equal status? I can not even pretend to know of such things, but I would guess philosophy would rank pretty low in importance to the majority. I cringe when I click on "trending" and see what interests the majority. I am content to gain what understanding I can on the subjects that interest me at my own pace, and Fox News holds little interest for me.
      I appreciate you making your videos available to those who find value in different perspectives and favoring me with a personal response. I have read some Plato, and enjoy contemplating the interpretations of others, although I was never comfortable in a traditional classroom setting. I am despised by many on a multitude of online forums under numerous aliases, though.

    • @gameshot586
      @gameshot586 6 років тому

      If you have the ability to learn the knowledge you require to achieve your goals without university, than do it man. That's my plan. ;)

  • @christringrove3448
    @christringrove3448 4 роки тому

    My first entry into philosophy and I am now hooked. Thank you

  • @tonymccready5053
    @tonymccready5053 6 років тому

    CITIZENS as Philosophers - Having the spark of the LOGOS

  • @saullopez3780
    @saullopez3780 3 роки тому +1

    Mind
    Soul
    Spirit
    Can YOU hear it?
    -SOL

  • @cesarflores2744
    @cesarflores2744 4 роки тому

    Thanks you again Sir. Four breaking on more link of the chain I am carrying.

  • @monoman4083
    @monoman4083 7 років тому

    Top class. Great Prof...

  • @BitterDawn
    @BitterDawn 3 роки тому

    Two kinds of people, Chevy and Ford..ends up with a Chrysler. At least ya got out of the cave and saw the Red Sun. ;) Good video as was the previous in the series.