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Pioneer GM-D9701 1200 watts for $160??
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Great value here and sometimes this amp drops to around 140'ish. Should be the perfect test bench amp for your subs too!
I think so too
Any thoughts on the Pioneer DX871?
OCD Garage haven’t gotten to play with that model specifically, but I think it’s supposed to be a SQ version of this or the 8701 amp.
@@HifiVega Love mine! Works great altho my bass knob somehow melted together where you plug the cable into the knob. 1600 watts at 1ohm but have my gain dialed down as my sub is rated max for 1200.
It's been great for me too. Same guts as the fosgate 1200.1d for half the price.
It’s amazing that Hifi responded to so many comments on here. Hifi and Big d are deffinetly appreciated in this industry.
Thanks man!
100% Agreed
Thanks for the test!
Thanks for watching!
I was going to buy this but I changed my mind and bought the audiopipe apmn-2000 mono amplifier been pushing it hard for 4 months it doesn't overheat and sounds amazing and it does rated power for around $200 trust me save a few extra bucks and get it you will not be disappointed at all
That amp actually made the list as well!
i just hooked everything up today it’s absolutely fucking amazing
I always enjoy yours and big D's videos. I still wish amps still did ratings at 12 volts like Orion and Taramps do.
Yep those days are pretty much gone
i'm coming from an alpine mrv-m500 to this amp and holly skit it's a huge difference in output and it fit behind the rear seat in my 12 silverado excab i love this amp
Yeah that’s a nice lil upgrade
I have the old stile of the amp and I love it. Has never let me down from 10s 12s and 15s it has done it all with no issues
Yeah it’s pretty much exactly the same internally as far as I can tell
@@HifiVega best of all I only paid 45$on offer up for it.lol
How does it do at 1ohm
@@greatmind3823 gets a lil warm after a while but no issues.i always run it at 1 omhs.
In my opinion, this amp is hard to beat for the money. I had the 9601 for a couple years and I loved it. I'm excited to hear you'll be using it on your channel. Nice work man and thanks for the content.
Thanks for watching homie!
Hey brother I used the 800 watt it dumped hard with one 12 Txxd2 4 @ 2 ohms it also with an old ppl made 75 x4 killed my alternator in a week keep in mind I was driving a pawer-stroke so u know the alt was good . I’ll say the pioneer champion series sound so so good on a sub . I’ll say probly my favorite sounding mono amp , there I said it but it’s true
I'm watching cus I want to...
I already know what these amps are capable of. These things remind me of the punch amps from my youth ( never really knew what they were called...I called em black or grey fins ) .
Black and grind or transana amps 🤘🏼
@@HifiVega I have put the last version through hell. I was using one to drive a older ppi power class fifteen in a sealed box , I know I was not feeding it enough and I had it tuned pretty razor edged.....it over heated one time over the year it was doing daily duty( 45 min to hour and a half drives twice a day ) . Sold it to a kid in my neighborhood and and he's still farting away with it. They are very well built. The way I used it , it should have " poofed" long time ago. 😎
That's a great value I'm loving it looking forward to seeing it put to work on your bench Another grade A clip from my main man HiFi Vega #TeamHiFi
Chief9-10 you know it!
Hi bro…
Pioneer GM-D8701 or Sony XM-GS100
Which one to buy?
The Sony one is less price compared to pioneer one comes with same configuration.
What did you think?
These Amplifiers are very underrated they're awesome sounding Amps for the price I have two , A sub and four channel 💪
I have the gmd9705 running 4 pioneer tsm6500pro, 2 ts-sw3002s4 12 inch sub (parallel at 2ohm) and 2 db drive euphoria es71t tweeter (parallel on front channels with passive xover), awesome amp and really good sq
Buddy of mine had the 9605 and he had a killer set up
@@HifiVega i count on it, people get amazed on my setup and think i have 2 amps running it
Good Stuff HifiVega!!!! New test bench amp for powering subs i see!! Seems the numbers aren't as solid as the last model. Its still a great bargain though. That test bench is looking great man!!!
Thanks man!
These Pioneers are a great value for a name brand. I have installed a couple of D9604’s and those down facing connectors are truly annoying. You can’t hook up the power or speakers with the amp bolted down in the car. The amp must be elevated so the wires can be held squarely in the connector while you tighten the allen bolt. Other than that they are good amplifiers.
Definitely a pain with these type of connectors
I think they were trying to make it harder for wires to come loose or out really, along with leaning the terminal for easier tool use.
It apparently is not just a re-design, just take a look at your buddies bigd channel he has the guts from the 9601 on display..and they look a bit different. No matter what i run one in my daily setup and pound it hard...it is a wonderful amp for the money!
I believe it seems like a pretty good amp. It's a Pioneer. I never was really into Pioneer speakers/amps, but they do make good stuff.
--The efficiency is no better than an US Acoustic AB amp. But the Pioneer does have some other technologies in it.
-The build looks beefy.
Can't go wrong with all that pioneer goodness. I feel ya on the down turned connections all the RF Prime amps are the same way would it have been that hard to just make them straight
Pioneer is trash. I bought their VSX-82TXS Elite AV receiver which when it released was $1,200 which is okay for the features and I/O it had but the dang thang don't work lol. No matter what input I get it's just straight distortion. I opened up the chassis to try and fix it and the soldering was absolute garbage for a $1,200 receiver. I wouldn't expect that type of soldering in a $300 receiver. Their head units are the only things I'd consider using as I have one and for the price sounds amazing, it's not on par with my Kenwood single DIN but I only paid about a fifth of the price 😁
That being said, this amp looks amazing. Haven't seen many better looking amps than this one lol
Jacob Webb did you buy it directly from them
It is stupid crazy on how much power they can get out of such a small package nowadays we used to boast about our big are amps because it would put out the bigger power😁👍
I know right! We were chumps lol maybe still are
@@HifiVega maybe so but I still like looking at a huge circuit board. This matter of fact most of the amps I've restored I've made custom bottoms so you can enjoy the engineering that went into them😊👍. The hardest ones were for the Soundstream because of a one-piece side plates. But they turned out beautiful, and I'm still working on audio art 100 UHC. That's been too long to finish
I have the 9601 pushing two soundqubed hsd2.1 10", best bang for my money.
Excellent good video topic of choice for discussion brother amazingly content
Thanks!
The 9601 made power. There something different inside. Still a great value and pioneer amps will last forever at normal use.
I can’t do a dynamic test on my set up so that maybe the test you’re used to seeing bigger numbers on
True. 9601 really put out much sound than this 9701, but this model is more accurate. But the amps are amazing. The 9601 was sentive to power connection making it a bit fragile, but for 1200rms, they are burgain of the century.
Can't beat this amp and the budget amp by Alpine that Big D Wiz featured.
Fo sho
I like that finish better than the old carbon fiber top it's more clean looking . Still a great Bang for the buck
Totally agree!
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I have this amp and the older model also. The manual says to hook up the speaker mono on the two right side speaker terminals. 2:40 I noticed you used the left side maybe that made slight difference in your power readings. Just a thought
Hmmm could be, but I wonder why the manual says that...
I want pioneer to bring back their 8000w peak 3000w rms subwoofer. They are the hardest hitting subwoofers with amazing sound quality.
Those were dope!
David Perry
I wish they would as well...
I run Triple tsw3004spl 12s... took almost 3 yrs to find 3, I do know who has a pair of the subs you want, but my dumb ass told him who's name the signature on the sub was, it was actually a pair out of the comp rig that set the record of 174.1ddbs... could have got the pair for $500.00 each, both worked perfectly...
The more I learn about amps the more important and paramount EFFICIENCY becomes. I have this amp but I think Im not going to run it and instead replace it with the RF Prime 1200.1 simply for the efficiency so as to not tax my electrical system as much.
hippo potamus that’s one of the most important considerations
i've been hoping to see either you or big d wiz to dyno some of the soundstream rn (rubicon nano) amps. i have the 4 channel and one of the mono and i'd like to see how it benches. i'm sure they're over-rated for power, but they're fairly affordable.
I like this amp, using it in my truck, can't beat the price
Fo sho
@@HifiVega what do you think about pairing this to 1 kenwood excelon db+ 12"- 350rms 1200max dvc 4ohm?
I have one of these, they kick butt but what's the difference from the 9601 and why does a bass remote cost as much as the amp? Dont lose it guys!
Nice video as usual I am considering getting one for a budget build I'm the same guy that won the sticker lol😂
There you go man! Hey send me that address again I forgot to screen shot and it disappeared lol
Great video 👌!!
Thanks
How clean is sound with this amp and does it control the woofer fairly well?
Rp 1200.1d makes well over rated for $170. Also audiopipe 1.5k does rated for $150.
Not sure if you'll see this since its late but worth a shot. On the gain setting the left says 6v and the right says 0.2v, my question is what side is the lowest gain, and what size is the highest gain. Dont want to ruin my amp before i use it. Kind regards
Lowest gain should be all the way to the left or 6v
@@HifiVega thank you for the speedy reply, do you mind letting me know why the 6v is minimum gain and the 0.2v is max gain? Seems to me like it would be the other way round. Thank you
@@AlexS-jo1bz it’s because that’s a reference to your input voltage not what the amp itself is putting out
@@HifiVega if im using speaker level input and the input voltage is more than 6.2v would i need something like a loc to reduce the voltage? Because right now the bass is way to loud even on the lowest gain.
For the same money I went with a Skar rp1200. Glad I did
The Skar amps seem to be pretty solid
J Holley I havent had the rp1200, but Ive had rp1500 and rp2000 theybhave poor sound quality, these pioneer amps have much cleaner power
Good amp
I bought one a week ago just got here but it doesnt slam my 12 in brahama sub at all unless i have bass boost all the way up what can be the issues
can i used this amp to run dual 4ohm subwoofers?
Great video. Would you recommend this amp to power a jl audio 10w7-3. Or can you give a recommendation.
I’d maybe look for something with a little more power at 3ohms. A Kicker KX series or maybe an RF T series
what is the best Gain setting
Wirh rockfoord Punch P3D4-12 600 RMS @2ohm
Two DVC 4 ohm 500 watt speakers can only be run to this amp under a one ohm load correct?
Yep
oh why didn't I buy these before? can't find it less than $280 on ebay but I keep an eye out in my local marketplaces
Yeah man current prices are insane
Hello Hifi Vega: I'm not really that much of a fan, of the Pioneer brand amps. But the video is fantastic, as usual! It is pretty straight forward, and very informative, so I gave it a like!
I wanna ask your opinion though, if I may... I'm looking to buy a new Puch 1000 watt amp, from around 2005 - 2006, but the price tag is over $400!
Recently as you know, there are many new amps making over 1000 watts, costing half of that amount! Do you think it's worth buying it, then? I've always liked Punch amps a lot, specially the older models (USA made)! Thanks in advance.
carlos bolano I think it would be worth it depending on the model. If it was a higher end model that is now more affordable because it’s used and older then you’d be doing well. If you’re goal is the most bang for the buck then you would probably be better served buying a new cheaper amp.
HifiVega Thanks for the advice, I really appreciate it!
Hey Hifi! I bought the Rockford P10002 amp (new), from 2006, and it should arrive soon. I don't have a car to test it though, when I get it, but I do have a 35 amp Power Supply! Can I test this big amp (160 amp fuse), with this Power Supply (35 amps)? Or will I damage the Power Supply, and or, blow the amp? Thanks for your expert advice!
🤔not bad. Interested in the thump test
Coming soon!
I just ordered this amp to match up to my JL audio 10w3v3 stealth box in my 2017 ram1500.
Do you think this was a good choice for my setup or would you have gone with a different amp?
Elliot Schwartz you will be very happy with this amp for the price you paid.
Sir is this better than Sony gs 100 mono amp
So do you think this will push my two skar SDR 10s to there potential?? I could really use ur opinion. I’m new to car audio.
Yes it would do well on those subs
ROCKVILLE !!!
Hi there Vega can I ask where do you have the gain setting when carrying out these test ?
I set it with the DD-1 -5db overlap
That 8ga speaker inputs is nice 4ga though ? Why have 4ga inputs with triple 40 fuses ? It makes you spend the extra money on the reducers .. unless your old school geeks like us and have some on deck
I totally agree
cleanin up that punch amp👍
Haha of course that’s the first thing you’d notice 😂😂 classic Dudley!
not a bass knob its a "bass boost" knob 0+18db bass boost at 45hz
If it wasn’t a bass boost knob I’d call it a gain knob 😉
@@HifiVega no i literally mean its just a bass boost at 45 or 50hz from 0 to + 18db look on the manual the old model had it too.
will this amp work for 2 12" DS18 black diamond speakers goin into a truck or should i keep looking
Aaron OBS it’ll work
Can you test a Dayton audio ho 12 or can tell me anything about it comparing to a infinity kappa 12 or a savard hi q 12? I'm leaning heavy on a Dayton audio since the boxes it calls for are very small. I have a 36hz 1.6 net cube box and 600rms.
I’ve been wanting to test one, but it might be a little bit before I get to it.
@@HifiVega Thanks ive read a lot about it but it is pricey compared to the kappa but the kappa box specs are 2.5 net and don't know how my box will do.
What type of power supply is your using at the setup to get 40+ A to the amplifier. I'm planning to use one of these at my home , so I'm curious to know how to get a proper power supply for this Amp
This one is a power maxx 100a
It can be powered at home with 50 ampere smps power supply
I'm bummed out, I paid $135 for mine few months back n I was going to get another sub and get another one of these and price is up around $200 now and the matching 4 channel that was the same price I wanted to replace my weak Soundstream "1200" is up at that price too, still good deal but more than I can spare now. Waaaahhh
Yeah that’s the bad part about Amazon prices can fluctuate
@@HifiVega equipment tests on UA-cam being readily available is a double edged sword, in good side you find out what's junk and what's not then the down side stuff that has great reviews price jumps... But I'll take knowing if the equipment is junk or not. Seems Everytime I watch a review and I look it up it's either discontinued or the price has jumped alot, Wolfram amps is a good example. I'm always a day late or a dollar short, that's the story of my life. Seems Audiopipe is one of the last for awsome specs and decent prices, Toro Tech may be the next best kept secret getting out tho. I just bought there 500wrms 2 ohm A/B class "R2" and Skar IX10 for my pickups budget system, curious how it all works. And maby some day get ahold of NVX for a VCW15 recone for my caravan, it's been about impossible trying deal with them just need a simple recone so I can be bumping again!!!..why problems with NVX? covid19??? Beautiful weather Have great weekend bud!
pricing goes up on everything that's a Hi demand. You'll think that the prices will drop on a high demand item. It's all money hungry greed from these manufacturers
@@kelvinperkins5864 I've been wanting to see a dyno of the TORO Tech R6 it looks awesome 3200Wrms at 1 ohm 4k at .5 ohm stable for $399 but if it does it or even exceeds it Toro techs prices will prob start creeping up. There MR2 micro did killer exceeding the 500w rating but there RX4 fell slightly short. Even tho it's a "budget" subsidiary of Massive Audio if there prices creep up an people continue to buy there products the prices will still will continue creeping up, Wolfram Audio is a prime example they had killer performance at basement prices until budget gem went crazy fanboy over them there prices soared up damn near to Sundowns crazy prices being placed in with the other "premium" obsceanly overpriced and still korean and chinese made products. I have to hand it to Audiopipe for staying affordable even with several very nice products, I would take my AP APCLE 1800 over my Pioneer GM9701 any day. Not only that its $60 cheaper. It obviously has more power overall but imo has alot better SQ in general and at low listening volumes my subs are alot more lively and dynamic sounding they just sounded flat on the Pioneer at those listening levels and plus it has no subsonic filter. At $135 GM9701 is a super killer deal but at $285 its underperforming and waaay overpriced, in my opinion it's a $180 amp tops.
It’s 1200 watts rms right??? I have two Skar SDR 10s and I don’t wanna over power them or underpower them. Pls help
Yep 1200w
Can We play four 12 inch sub woofers each rated 500 watts rms with this amplifier ?
Yeah for sure. You wouldn’t be putting 500 watts to each but it would power them
I have Two Rockford fosgate P1 “12 inch subs Can someone tell me what amp will work?
Miss Bigg this amp would work great or you could check out some of these
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How does this do at 1ohm
I have the 8701 I had it on one Power Acoustik BAMF dual 2ohm sub. It's now pushing 2. I'm thinking of buying the 9701
It’s a worthy upgrade imo
Is it enough for 2 12” kicker comp with 1000w rms?
Ez
I'm not a fan of pioneer anymore. I used to swear by them. But after several of their products failing in a very short time. I started slowly moving towards Rockford fosgate and literally not one piece of equipment has failed. I have the prime series 1200w amp from Rockford powering 2 p2 8s that are in my doors bandpassed for use as mid bass. They are awesome. Before that the amp powered 3 p3 10s in my trunk and it was amazing. So I would always pay the extra 60 to 80 bucks for the Rockford fosgate prime 1200 over this one.
Hard to go wrong with RF
Will this amp be good for 1 12 inch cerwin vega 1700w sub? Some stereo guy told me these ain't good and they over heat. They wanna sell me their stuff. I don't wanna make the wrong choice since I don't know much.
Yeah these are great when you can find them at a decent price
I have the older version 9601 have it pushing three 15s crossfire BAMFS 600RMS a piece and it rattles the circle k window when I pull up!
It’s $280 now and sold out everywhere
joe s damn! That sux
Hey what do you use for a resistor set-up?also were could i find the resistors at? All of my components are salvaged from old TV's, PC's, and home stereo equipment, ect. I've never seen anything 1, 2 or 4 ohm rated to handle big power.
They’re called braking resistors you can find them on eBay for around $35 ea
Why so low efficiency?
Does this amps can run two jbl 1100 watts subwoofers
Easy
how much ampere is required to run this amp well ?
You could run this on a stock alternator pretty well imo. If you’ve got a 90+amp alt you’re in good shape
This amp is 283 bucks now I wanted to try it but it's to much for how much power it puts out
Yeah, it doesn’t make sense at that price
Will that run two Memphis Audio 12s?
Easily
F Yeah only a loss of 3% efficiency going to 2 ohm from 4 ohm.
I have this sitting in my room right now. How do you think two cheaper 15s running 4 ohm parallel (2 ohm effective) will do? Audiopipe TS-CAR15s
Since my car does 12.7v your numbers basically mean I should do around 700w 2ohm. That's 350watt for each of my 15s which is right around where I wanted to be. My subs were less than $80 each so I really don't want to give them their rated power of 500w since similar but a lot stronger subs like the Kicker Comp C15 (overpriced as it is) are rated for 500-600w rms. If they rate a better sub the same as my cheaper subs its a good bet I should back off from its power rating. That's fine by me though because I'm only running stock electrical and just wanted to get as much as I could safely from the old Highlander alt.
Like Clockwork64 yeah they should do well like that
For under 200$$ no better amp than a taramps 3000hd i believe its around $175 usd free shipping
I couldn’t find it for less than $205 online seemed like that was the map pricing because every place I looked it was the same price
@@HifiVega maybe they went up on the price but still for $160 1200 and probably not 1200 rms il still go qith the taramps for an extra $45 you can get real men amp with 3000+ rms power.. i just cheked and yes it went up now for 200 you could get the 1800 wich is still way better than pioneer. Love the chanel take care man
How can it consume 153 amperes, and the original has a fuse of 120 amperes only?
Those fuses only blow if it’s a continuous pull at that amperage and they’re not all that precise to begin with
Thank you 😊😊
What's the damping factor on it?
As far as I can tell it’s not listed...
@@HifiVega does it maintain control over your sub fairly well?
Naa, if it advertises 1200 watts it should put that out on it's worst day. If Pioneer is going to claim more whats that it has just on principal, I would boycott buying their products, there's too many other choices that will crank out more than what they advertise.
I have this amp powering two Rockford Fosgate p3 10" subs. I don't even use the bass boost knob and it slams the hell out of my car.
How can a sub power another sub?
@@tholo86 What? I said I have this *amp* - it is powering both of my 10s.
@@boltinabottle6307 Sorry I got confused, now I get you
Wait this is the same amp as the gm d9601 how did it do less power
I meant to say 8601
@@HifiVega oh I wasn't referring to anything you said in the video but big d tested the 9601 which I assumed was the same as all the inputs size and controls are the same. I wish somebody could post side by side pictures of the guts
So it’s like a Rockford r1200.1 but less efficient
And less expensive 😉
HifiVega is there a way to test how clean the signal is coming out of it? Ie, prove that Brazilian amps are “dirty power”?
can u test the ampere audio 2000.1.
At some point I hope to
@@HifiVega the amp is rated 2000w @ 12.8v. I just have the feeling this might be a 4000w amp @ 14v
Soundqubed have a S1 1250 for $179.
Almost included that one, but at the time they were sold out
Oh ok
Weird that it's older now but sitting at $280.
Yeah man these things have gotten stupid with the price
Hi, i am using this amp to run the 2 JBL stadium 1224, at 1 ohm load and total 1000watt rms. But when i raise the volume above than 20 from my after market stereo, this amp start tripping, whats the issue.
Note that i did BIG3 upgrade in my car electricity wiring. What i have to do further? Guide please ???
Mehran Khan I’d put a volt meter on the power and ground and try to make it repeat that while looking at the volt meter on the wires going directly into the amp and see if you’re getting some weird voltage readings. If they are somewhat normal not dropping below 11.5ish then you’ve got another issue
@@HifiVega i have checked, voltages are dropping to below 11 volts on high volume.
@@HifiVega what to do in this case, note that i already do BIG3 upgrade in my car
@@HifiVega can i use 2 speakers output of this amp for my both subs separately. It might ease the voltages intake of amp ?? What do you think
Oh what the hell, it's now 270$
Lawd
Very low efficiency on that amp...Or am i wrong on that?
TheLassenman it’s on the low end for class d, but in my experience cheaper class d amps are less efficient.
@@HifiVega I see and thanks for the repsond
BROTHER
Cool amp!!! BTW, have you seen the Makeitlouder.com site? They sell modified amps and was thinking about buying it! It's a boss 4000 amp!!!
Ruben Torres no I haven’t. I’ll have to check that out
@@HifiVega yes!!! Please! Very interesting website!!! I'd like to know what you think!!!
That amp is now double the price
Not worth it at anything over $200 imo
For $160 that thing is legit!
For realz!
Skar rp 1200.d check it out
I will
Does it do high level inputs?
I've seen better under $200 if you wanna know comment or stay tuned on my channel for a bit. P.s. not bad HiFi Vega pretty good choice!🤙
The efficiency is horrible.
AncientAlien815 it’s a cheap amp
@@HifiVega true dat!