I can't figure out why so many people talk trash about Pioneer. Their amps are CEA certified, their champion pro series and spl series subwoofers are legendary, components are crystal clear, and head units are the best in the business. Just because they don't jack up their prices and overcharge, doesn't mean it's not good stuff.
Pioneer's been a spoiler/annoyance to U.S. Audio concerns since they started (successfully) punching up to brands like McIntosh and Marantz in the '70's. Marantz sold out to Sony/Superscope (didn't hurt their products much until later in the '90's when the brand hit the skids, and then got bought by D&M) and the same fate has only recently befallen Pioneer. (I think Oinkyo owns the "Mass market" division now.) But from 1974-ish to about 1981 and then again from the late '80's (the "Elite Series") until after the turn of this Century, Pioneer (and its American derived engineering DNA, courtesy of people like Bob Carver and Bart Locanthi) was at the top of the marketplace in quality and conservative marketing. (Google an SX-1980 or SPEC series for the '70's. You'll get a hernia just picking one of the silly things up...) Where they fell from grace was from 1982 or so up until about 1990, and then again after the decade-long Japanese recession took hold after (again) the turn of this Century. Once again, their brand's bifurcated and the descendants of their original innovators now resides in what's left of their "Elite" brand and "TAD" lines. (You're likely never going to afford anything with a TAD nameplate on it, which is a mistake on their part, but there you have it.) So basically anything you see in Walmart with a Pioneer nameplate isn't really all that close to the original nameplate's legacy. What's been much more consistent (as BigDWiz points out) is their pre-eminence in the Car Stereo market. The real inflection point for their old school front ends was their FM Supertuner and Cassette deck technology. But as analog FM's content has lessened in quality, that advantage is (unnecessarily) fading. (FM broadcasters could go back to programming interesting Music if they really wanted to, but it would require "risk" which they're not prepared to take any more. Apparently.) The same thing happened to Fisher in the '70's. (Samyo bought 'em and gutted them.) There's information out there about the son of the CEO (sound familiar?) squandering the progress that the head of the company created during their heyday. They sold off their "Elite" video display technology/brand and have (at various times) marketed "Unobtanium" higher quality designs (Exclusive, Pure Malt, etc.) for their "home" markets. They're not automatically bad because they're ubiquitous. But they haven't guarded their brand as well as I might've hoped. I've been a Pioneer Loyalist since my first home stereo (1979) and my first car stereo (1984). But they've slid sideways any number of times. So everybody gets a piece of whatever "truth" there might be. I'd like to see what's been done with Marantz (there's been some pretty brutal hyperinflation of their pricing, but the quality is there in spades) applied to Pioneer's legacy. I'd drop coin for a two-channel SX-2020 (or SX-1980 Mk. II) with updated technology. Just as long as it wasn't "BPC'ed to death"...ymmv...
Nice, I bought this amp in 2016 when first released new, and I'm here in 2021 still rocking it. It's been in 4 different cars, first car I had it in paired with two pioneer Champion Series PRO 12", dual ported box tuned to 40hz, I won first place (beginner class) sound competition with that setup, 141.6 decibels. It's now just running one of those 12's in a ported box, great amp 6 years of hard use!👍👍👍
I keep hearing positive comments from those who use this amp. It's always great to get feedback, b/c in many cases I have not used these amps for any extended period of time.
Good amp. Used to run this on my 18" ultimax with no issues (gains set with the DD1). Only reason i ever swapped it out was for more power, switching to a rockford 1500. I would recommend running some ferrules on your power wires, the set screws seem to apply good pressure at the top but the bottom of the wire likes to slip a little.
I totally agree with you about the box but I absolutely love these amps! I ran two of these last year and I never had any issues with them and my car was extremely loud!
Yeah I actually installed the 800 watt version of this amp last week for a kid and he was bragging about his 1600 watt amp cause of the box. I had to explain to him that it was 800 watts rms and that the max numbers mean nothing at all.
That's right, we have to educate these folks! Probably the most impressive part about this amp to me is the internals. Looks like a lot of care was taken to assemble it. No glue on places were glue wasn't needed...no extra compound smeared in the wrong places. Looks solid to me!
Yeah I've sold three of them and they're still going strong. Very good amps. Plus I don't mind admitting that I am a pioneer fan boy. I only run pioneer for my head units.
john wagner same here I just bought a Kenwood double din cause of model and price I got it for and I'm not happy I want a pioneer! so I'm selling it soon lol. haven't even had it 4months yet
I loved their premier subs back in the 90's. I worked at an audio shop and built a wall in Pontiac transport demo vehicle. 12 amps. 12 12" premier subs. All premier everything. It was awesome. Very first competition install I was a part of before I was even driving.
Thank you for this amp dyno! I was unable to find one when shopping for this amp and ended up purchasing it anyway. I have been running it for a couple of months on a soundqubed hds215 in a 3.5 ft³ box tuned to 35hz and love it! The amp does not seem to be power hungry as I do not see any dimming on my stock electrical system in my Tundra with the original 100A alternator. I have purchased much more expensive equipment in the past that hasn't performed near as good as this, two thumbs up!
Cool! I bought one of these a few years ago and it's done well on a set of jlw1 12's. The price leaves room for upgrades later to, which is every bassheads favorite thing. Thanks for the honest non sponsored review. subbing!
I bought this because of your review last year and I just wanted to say thanks again! I needed to watch the video again to see the 2 vs 1 ohm results....Thanks!
Pioneer should thank you for my purchase of this amp. Your review sealed the deal when I was window shopping for a new amp after my Koiiler finally went out after about 8 years. I went with this amp to push my two 10" DVC 4 Kicker Comp VR's. I have it wired at 1 ohm with the amp turned all the way down. It sounds great.
my son runs this amp on 2 Ap BD3 12's at 1ohm for over a year and it pushing them hard .It's very smooth and very easy on the voltage also.Im glad to see it does rated .
I've had this amp on two soundqubed hds215s for 3 years wired at 1ohm and have played the system for literally hundreds of hours and have not had a single problem
I hate other channels dumb kids dont know how to talt or record. This man impressed me very understanding great job no bad words i play his videos at my big screen with my dad while i do installs
dude love this more personal review. That was great. Did you have the bass knob plugged in during the test? It is a volume/bass boost controller. The amp sounds less then great with out it.
Five Star Car Stereo so how exactly would you suggest setting the gain on the amp with the bass knob. Once gain is set where do you set the bass knob at? Thanks
Bon Scott depends with what you want to hear. If your a fan of only low, then boosting the bass will be unnecessary because this amp has alot to offer. Those rail caps really make it go very low without taking alot of juice and strain.
As always, I truly appreciate your channel and the testing you do. these new pioneer gm amps may do rated or better, but when they were putting our amps under the gm model back around 03-05, I remember them not quite holding up. Good to see pioneer is putting out decent amps again
Although an old comment, I feel I have to reply to this...even the gm-x models you're speaking of (yes those sold at Walmart) did their rates power and they also used good internal components such as nichicon, Rubycon, elna, and sanken. I've opened up quite a few of those and was pretty surprised to see this.
I know this is an older vid now but i watch most of yours and think this one is especially well done. The extra 'face time' adds something. Everything is a balance, keep experimenting. Keep up the good work!
cloud chaser I have this amp on 2 Kicker CVR 15s in a slot vented box and its loud but after about 3 years now I think I'm gonna buy a twin and run 1 amp to each sub!
i run mine at 1.33 ohms (three 12's) and based on test results by various places at 4,2 and 1 ohm, i guesstimate it to be around 1000-1050w rms. ive just acquired a second one and will be running both at 2ohms and moving to four 12's and 1600w rms :D
I had a hifonics zeus 1200 watt amp running at 300rms a sub and my lights would dim like crazy and then i got this amp running at 1000 watts rms and my lights barely dim now. Its a really good amp for the money
Thanks again BigD. Not sure why people are giving the video a thumbs down. But this is a popular amp and I know lots of people wanted to see it on the dyno. Turns out its one of the best amps (dollar for dollar) on the market.
Good to know! I've only heard one negative comment about these amps thus far (as far as reliability is concerned). Not having a subsonic filter is a deal breaker for some people, but that's to be expected on a budget amp (omission of this feature)
Your kicking ass man these videos are incredible. This channel is allowing people to choose the right amp for there application. Your helping us all out cheers
how about a new zed minotaur? they pride themselves on being different from the big manufacturers, wonder how well they do, and I can't find any one else that's done an amp dyno on those
Thank you for this amp dyno! I was unable to find one when shopping for this amp and ended up purchasing it anyway. I have been running it for a couple of months on a soundqubed hds215 in a 3.5 ft³ box tuned to 35hz and love it! The amp does not seem to be power hungry as I do not see any dimming on my stock electrical system in my Tundra with the original 100A alternator. Best budget power I have ran!
Hi Matthew, are you using this amp for 2 15's? If so, then I'm sure it's massively loud. But I'm curious to know most of all, how is the sound quality?? How is quality of bass production along with the loudness? Does the amp sound good and have great dynamic range with the bass frequencies? Let me know your experience, thanks.
I recently came across this review,and was happy to see that Amazon still had 'em in stock. I have a couple JBL 4550As needs waking up after years in storage slumber.
Pioneer has always done me good.. I had 2 12inch tsw1208 subs.. hooked up to a hifonics 1000w mono block. Those subs are amazing for the money. Less than 100 bucks each sub. The amp was 150 bucks.. for the money it banged hard for several years.. Good stuff pioneer!!!!
Hi Jorge, how is the sound quality of this amp with your dual Alpine 10's? Everyone says how powerful this amp is and loud it gets, but not too many mention how it sounds, the quality of bass production. I'm curious, please let me know
Excellent job on this video. Very professional and well versed. The camera angle was great, the lighting was great. Everything was great. I kind of miss the live action of doing the amplifier test, but seeing more of you and your personal input about the amplifier was refreshing for a change. As Darth Vader would say - "Impressive. Most impressive."
I enjoy your videos BigD. You sprinkle just enough personality to keep me interested without going too far over the top. Plus your content is top-notch. Keep it up!!
What a amp!!! I just got your Chanel after see you review on Amazon. Actually I’m Brazilian living in US lol... I saw your review about Soundigital amp... I got one in Brazil years ago (my best amp there). Thanks dude!
I got this amp because of your tests bud I love it, low cost decent power output & pretty mild on my stock electrical system, really can't be beaten on price, can be bought for £150 here in the UK, thanks Derek love your channel by the way, always doing cool audio stuff for the viewers.
Great review / test. Very helpful, as this is about the highest capacity amp you can use without making major upgrades to a modern vehicles electrical system (at 2 or 4 ohms).
Man i miss this style of recording an editing you used to do but i still greatly enjoy your new content also this style is just easy to follow an pay attention lol
Subscribed. Really digging the old school theme of the channel. I've always had an affinity for old school tech, first set up was a used crunch drive series ds-2400vu 800x2 and a set of cerwin vega hed 12's around 2002 in high school. I remember wanting to find a set of matching drive series fat boy subs to go with that amp so bad! Current set up is a Rockford Fosgate punch hx2 RFD1210, on a 07 era Rockford p300-1. Sub is crying for more power, lol. Never owned anything nice enough to write home about, nothing like you find at least. I do have a Rockford power 1000.1bd from late 90's/early 2000's in storage that quit working several years back, your channel has got me wanting to dig it out and trouble shoot it. Guy had it on Craigslist in perfect shape, end caps and all for $40... That amp pushed two 15's for a few years, then one day it wouldn't turn on and it went into storage and was replaced by a Lanzar Optidrive 2000.1d... Not a fan of the newer Lanzar products, but the older opti line was pretty good.
I love seeing the old school Phoenix Gold amps. I never could afford the big ones, only one I could afford back in the day was a m25 but it still kicked but.
This is a very good amp I have mine hooked up to a pioneer spl 12 been running it everyday to work and back for a over a year and have no problems awesome power and never over heats
Thanks! I got the gmd 8601 but not quite happy with power. Love the amp so this video helped me make my mind to get bigger brother 9601! Keep the vids coming.
I'm so glad that I got to see a Pioneer on the dyno. I've never seen a Pioneer with a cappy board. All the one ones I've opened up always had a nice and clean layout. I agree about the ratings on the box...but man no matter how much you try to tell some people they still won't listen. They'll say, "Man I can get this 4000 watt brand X over here for $100." I hate the numbers game too! I've used Pioneer for head units and I've used their Champion Series subs. My friends couldn't believe that Pioneer subs would sound as good as mine did. Never used their amps for subs though. After seeing this video I will use one.
Pioneer does say max power which does confuse people, but they also state the RMS wattages on their subs and amps. I love their champion series / champion series pro subs, especially the TS-W3002D4 (1k watts rms 2 ohms). Pioneer has been my favorite since I have been a child, I have tried their head units, subs, and amps. Pioneer has 4 ohm AV Recievers!! It is hard to find 4 ohm av recievers.
Wow I never woulda guessed. 1768 on a dynamic burst ??? And 1300 watts before clipping ?? I'm impressed. Also, thank you so much for the video. Nobody else has done a "real" test of this amplifier.
Thanks for dynoing this amp. It's really nice for the money that I spent on it ($130). Only things I wish it had were a subsonic filter and a bass knob that wasn't a bass boost, but for the price I can't complain lol
i had one bout 20 years ago it pushed 4 12s 2 cerwin vegas and hyphonics Olympian warriors atill have warriors this day still work these pioneers were good for budget beats for sure
I can't figure out why so many people talk trash about Pioneer. Their amps are CEA certified, their champion pro series and spl series subwoofers are legendary, components are crystal clear, and head units are the best in the business. Just because they don't jack up their prices and overcharge, doesn't mean it's not good stuff.
+Jon Patterson 👍
Yes to everything exept the head unit part
Pioneer's been a spoiler/annoyance to U.S. Audio concerns since they started (successfully) punching up to brands like McIntosh and Marantz in the '70's. Marantz sold out to Sony/Superscope (didn't hurt their products much until later in the '90's when the brand hit the skids, and then got bought by D&M) and the same fate has only recently befallen Pioneer. (I think Oinkyo owns the "Mass market" division now.) But from 1974-ish to about 1981 and then again from the late '80's (the "Elite Series") until after the turn of this Century, Pioneer (and its American derived engineering DNA, courtesy of people like Bob Carver and Bart Locanthi) was at the top of the marketplace in quality and conservative marketing. (Google an SX-1980 or SPEC series for the '70's. You'll get a hernia just picking one of the silly things up...) Where they fell from grace was from 1982 or so up until about 1990, and then again after the decade-long Japanese recession took hold after (again) the turn of this Century. Once again, their brand's bifurcated and the descendants of their original innovators now resides in what's left of their "Elite" brand and "TAD" lines. (You're likely never going to afford anything with a TAD nameplate on it, which is a mistake on their part, but there you have it.) So basically anything you see in Walmart with a Pioneer nameplate isn't really all that close to the original nameplate's legacy. What's been much more consistent (as BigDWiz points out) is their pre-eminence in the Car Stereo market. The real inflection point for their old school front ends was their FM Supertuner and Cassette deck technology. But as analog FM's content has lessened in quality, that advantage is (unnecessarily) fading. (FM broadcasters could go back to programming interesting Music if they really wanted to, but it would require "risk" which they're not prepared to take any more. Apparently.) The same thing happened to Fisher in the '70's. (Samyo bought 'em and gutted them.) There's information out there about the son of the CEO (sound familiar?) squandering the progress that the head of the company created during their heyday. They sold off their "Elite" video display technology/brand and have (at various times) marketed "Unobtanium" higher quality designs (Exclusive, Pure Malt, etc.) for their "home" markets. They're not automatically bad because they're ubiquitous. But they haven't guarded their brand as well as I might've hoped. I've been a Pioneer Loyalist since my first home stereo (1979) and my first car stereo (1984). But they've slid sideways any number of times. So everybody gets a piece of whatever "truth" there might be. I'd like to see what's been done with Marantz (there's been some pretty brutal hyperinflation of their pricing, but the quality is there in spades) applied to Pioneer's legacy. I'd drop coin for a two-channel SX-2020 (or SX-1980 Mk. II) with updated technology. Just as long as it wasn't "BPC'ed to death"...ymmv...
While I agree is their fault for dipping into the ultra budget market while still having quality stuff.
@@redsdouglas9616 I thought the 80prs was one of the go to sound quality head units. Are you rocking mcintosh or something?
When you said you went out and bought this with your own money to test I instantly subbed and liked. Keep up the good work man;)
Nice, I bought this amp in 2016 when first released new, and I'm here in 2021 still rocking it. It's been in 4 different cars, first car I had it in paired with two pioneer Champion Series PRO 12", dual ported box tuned to 40hz, I won first place (beginner class) sound competition with that setup, 141.6 decibels. It's now just running one of those 12's in a ported box, great amp 6 years of hard use!👍👍👍
this review alone made me order the full Pioneer setup. this amp and 2 12"
3003D4's
Thanks for the continued testing, these pioneers are actually decent, especially for those without a crazy electrical system to run huge amps
That's important. I don't think everyone in car audio is willing to spend the time and $$ to upgrade their electrical systems
I really like this new, chill, style of your channel.
I have this amp for a few years and it never disappoints.
Been running one for almost 2 years. it has really surprised me. I saw that 1700 and got excited as all get out. Thank you Big D. You're the man.
I keep hearing positive comments from those who use this amp. It's always great to get feedback, b/c in many cases I have not used these amps for any extended period of time.
Good amp. Used to run this on my 18" ultimax with no issues (gains set with the DD1). Only reason i ever swapped it out was for more power, switching to a rockford 1500. I would recommend running some ferrules on your power wires, the set screws seem to apply good pressure at the top but the bottom of the wire likes to slip a little.
I totally agree with you about the box but I absolutely love these amps! I ran two of these last year and I never had any issues with them and my car was extremely loud!
in BIG numbers it says 2400W, but even smaller on the box it says 1200W RMS at 1 ohm, 1 percent THD, 14.4Vdc
Yeah I actually installed the 800 watt version of this amp last week for a kid and he was bragging about his 1600 watt amp cause of the box. I had to explain to him that it was 800 watts rms and that the max numbers mean nothing at all.
That's right, we have to educate these folks! Probably the most impressive part about this amp to me is the internals. Looks like a lot of care was taken to assemble it. No glue on places were glue wasn't needed...no extra compound smeared in the wrong places. Looks solid to me!
Yeah I've sold three of them and they're still going strong. Very good amps. Plus I don't mind admitting that I am a pioneer fan boy. I only run pioneer for my head units.
john wagner same here I just bought a Kenwood double din cause of model and price I got it for and I'm not happy I want a pioneer! so I'm selling it soon lol. haven't even had it 4months yet
I loved their premier subs back in the 90's. I worked at an audio shop and built a wall in Pontiac transport demo vehicle. 12 amps. 12 12" premier subs. All premier everything. It was awesome. Very first competition install I was a part of before I was even driving.
Recommended this amp to a ton of customers, all were very happy!
Great Amp!, I have mine hooked up to a pair of 12" Pioneer Champ Pros in a vented box and they sound great.
John Barzee get another amp and run one on each and they will sound even greater :-)
John Barzee same here and I love it
I'm wanting to run all pioneer in my car. That means a 4 channel amp for the mids and fronts and a 1 channel for the 1 or 2 10s.
Both champion subs and amps.
Can you tell me how many db you are making ?
Damn, Pioneer! shocked the hell outta me! good watts for the price...
Thank you for this amp dyno! I was unable to find one when shopping for this amp and ended up purchasing it anyway. I have been running it for a couple of months on a soundqubed hds215 in a 3.5 ft³ box tuned to 35hz and love it! The amp does not seem to be power hungry as I do not see any dimming on my stock electrical system in my Tundra with the original 100A alternator. I have purchased much more expensive equipment in the past that hasn't performed near as good as this, two thumbs up!
Watched this video 4 months back and ordered one. I can't recommend it enough, this thing is an absolute beast.
+Philipp Trapp thanks for the follow-up!
Doug is right up there with EXO and CAF in the UA-cam best car audio guys. Keep up the great videos man.
Cool! I bought one of these a few years ago and it's done well on a set of jlw1 12's. The price leaves room for upgrades later to, which is every bassheads favorite thing. Thanks for the honest non sponsored review. subbing!
thanks for the comment
great video!!! maybe you can test some older pioneer amps, keep up the good work
I bought this because of your review last year and I just wanted to say thanks again! I needed to watch the video again to see the 2 vs 1 ohm results....Thanks!
Pioneer should thank you for my purchase of this amp. Your review sealed the deal when I was window shopping for a new amp after my Koiiler finally went out after about 8 years. I went with this amp to push my two 10" DVC 4 Kicker Comp VR's. I have it wired at 1 ohm with the amp turned all the way down. It sounds great.
my son runs this amp on 2 Ap BD3 12's at 1ohm for over a year and it pushing them hard .It's very smooth and very easy on the voltage also.Im glad to see it does rated .
He's talking about audopipe not deafbounce
Keep up the good work.
I've got one of these and two of the 8604 100x4 amps I love these amps, very clean and powerful... hard to beat for the money
I've had this amp on two soundqubed hds215s for 3 years wired at 1ohm and have played the system for literally hundreds of hours and have not had a single problem
I like the new vid style
Gotta switch it up a bit, keep things interesting. I'm going to be doing some changes to my "studio", so more changes are coming soon
Kinda looks like another channel I watch but it's cool. Great videos, solid info always.
I hate other channels dumb kids dont know how to talt or record.
This man impressed me very understanding great job no bad words i play his videos at my big screen with my dad while i do installs
Thanks for watching and commenting!
I always love Pioneer car Audio products. They never fail...THEY PERFORM
Got his amp. For years now. Its awesome. Never hat problems with pioneer. But thanks for the test for a scientific result :D
I need a budget amp that does 2 ohms a about 1200w rms been scouring your videos
dude love this more personal review. That was great. Did you have the bass knob plugged in during the test? It is a volume/bass boost controller. The amp sounds less then great with out it.
Thanks! I didn't have the bass knob plugged in. According to the manual it boosts 50Hz and not just a level adjustment. Is this incorrect?
BigDWiz yeah the amp falls flat if the knob is not plugged in. It takes it from zero to hero.
Five Star Car Stereo so how exactly would you suggest setting the gain on the amp with the bass knob. Once gain is set where do you set the bass knob at? Thanks
Bon Scott depends with what you want to hear. If your a fan of only low, then boosting the bass will be unnecessary because this amp has alot to offer. Those rail caps really make it go very low without taking alot of juice and strain.
I guess Im pretty randomly asking but do anybody know of a good site to watch newly released series online ?
As always, I truly appreciate your channel and the testing you do. these new pioneer gm amps may do rated or better, but when they were putting our amps under the gm model back around 03-05, I remember them not quite holding up. Good to see pioneer is putting out decent amps again
Although an old comment, I feel I have to reply to this...even the gm-x models you're speaking of (yes those sold at Walmart) did their rates power and they also used good internal components such as nichicon, Rubycon, elna, and sanken. I've opened up quite a few of those and was pretty surprised to see this.
I know this is an older vid now but i watch most of yours and think this one is especially well done. The extra 'face time' adds something. Everything is a balance, keep experimenting. Keep up the good work!
I love pioneer stuff. I'm sure if you ran one of these per woofer you can pound the -uck outta music all day.
cloud chaser thinking abt doin that in my setup but damn 1 of these amps to my l7s is enuff already so idk yet
cloud chaser I have this amp on 2 Kicker CVR 15s in a slot vented box and its loud but after about 3 years now I think I'm gonna buy a twin and run 1 amp to each sub!
Joseph Henson if you have multiple L7s and only 1 of these amps, you're seriously underpowering the subs!
Big D! I know you still got this amp sitting around.... What's it do at 1.3 ohms???
i run mine at 1.33 ohms (three 12's) and based on test results by various places at 4,2 and 1 ohm, i guesstimate it to be around 1000-1050w rms.
ive just acquired a second one and will be running both at 2ohms and moving to four 12's and 1600w rms :D
I bought this amp in 2013 and it's still working great in my car. Really good amp.
😬👍
loved the old school video at the end, you never seem to fail us that watch you and add a little something unsuspecting at the end, right on brother 👍
Yes!!
I used two of these amps on 4 15" Cerwin Vegas and motherfuck! Killer bang for the buck
Rob Retaliation love those Vegas
Not too power hungry either!
I had a hifonics zeus 1200 watt amp running at 300rms a sub and my lights would dim like crazy and then i got this amp running at 1000 watts rms and my lights barely dim now. Its a really good amp for the money
Thanks again BigD. Not sure why people are giving the video a thumbs down. But this is a popular amp and I know lots of people wanted to see it on the dyno. Turns out its one of the best amps (dollar for dollar) on the market.
My gm-8601 has been running strong for about 3 years now. Nice to finally know that it should be doing rated power thanks
Good to know! I've only heard one negative comment about these amps thus far (as far as reliability is concerned). Not having a subsonic filter is a deal breaker for some people, but that's to be expected on a budget amp (omission of this feature)
It's a nice amp thoe!!!
I wish someone would test the Soundqubed Q1-4500 hint hint lol
Check out AMICustoms
Yep nothing.
Your kicking ass man these videos are incredible. This channel is allowing people to choose the right amp for there application. Your helping us all out cheers
Thanks brother 🤙
yessss I've been waiting for this amp to get benched, pretty cool results! might pick one up
Max power is achieved when lightning strikes your car.
at 88 mph
Iron man can attest to that when Thor hit him with a bolt of lightning.
FIRST, lol
it was to stop those posts...
BigDWiz do newer hifonics zrx
BigDWiz do a MA audio
how about a new zed minotaur? they pride themselves on being different from the big manufacturers, wonder how well they do, and I can't find any one else that's done an amp dyno on those
BigDWiz Find some old hollywood sound labs or audio gods stuff, big D!
Thank you for this amp dyno! I was unable to find one when shopping for this amp and ended up purchasing it anyway. I have been running it for a couple of months on a soundqubed hds215 in a 3.5 ft³ box tuned to 35hz and love it! The amp does not seem to be power hungry as I do not see any dimming on my stock electrical system in my Tundra with the original 100A alternator. Best budget power I have ran!
Hi Matthew, are you using this amp for 2 15's? If so, then I'm sure it's massively loud. But I'm curious to know most of all, how is the sound quality?? How is quality of bass production along with the loudness? Does the amp sound good and have great dynamic range with the bass frequencies? Let me know your experience, thanks.
I recently came across this review,and was happy to see that Amazon still had 'em in stock. I have a couple JBL 4550As needs waking up after years in storage slumber.
Great amps! I have the 5ch I’m gonna Test too
Anyone find it for less than $165.00 ?
blkmustang007 ebay 159.00..even saw a few used ones for 100 bux
blkmustang007
I bought a used one on eBay for $97. It does rated power all day and doesn't get even slightly warm. even at 1 ohm
Jon Patterson nice
I picked one up for used for $90.
Pioneer has always done me good.. I had 2 12inch tsw1208 subs.. hooked up to a hifonics 1000w mono block. Those subs are amazing for the money. Less than 100 bucks each sub. The amp was 150 bucks.. for the money it banged hard for several years.. Good stuff pioneer!!!!
Been waiting for this amp to be tested so thanks! I have it and pushes two Alpine type S 10" to the max. Never overheats and you can't beat the price.
Hi Jorge, how is the sound quality of this amp with your dual Alpine 10's? Everyone says how powerful this amp is and loud it gets, but not too many mention how it sounds, the quality of bass production. I'm curious, please let me know
Excellent job on this video. Very professional and well versed. The camera angle was great, the lighting was great. Everything was great. I kind of miss the live action of doing the amplifier test, but seeing more of you and your personal input about the amplifier was refreshing for a change.
As Darth Vader would say - "Impressive. Most impressive."
I enjoy your videos BigD. You sprinkle just enough personality to keep me interested without going too far over the top. Plus your content is top-notch. Keep it up!!
+yoplaitmajor thanks dawg 🤙
Bought one off of this test to run my DC Audio Level 2 12. Thank You!
when i go looking at amps and google a model number and it leads me back to one of my subscriptions! much love Big D, much love.
Google is awesome 👏
you can say that again!
Love watching your videos sir. Nice job!!
What a amp!!! I just got your Chanel after see you review on Amazon. Actually I’m Brazilian living in US lol... I saw your review about Soundigital amp... I got one in Brazil years ago (my best amp there).
Thanks dude!
Thanks for watching and commenting!
I got this amp because of your tests bud I love it, low cost decent power output & pretty mild on my stock electrical system, really can't be beaten on price, can be bought for £150 here in the UK, thanks Derek love your channel by the way, always doing cool audio stuff for the viewers.
Thanks for watching and commenting!
Great review / test. Very helpful, as this is about the highest capacity amp you can use without making major upgrades to a modern vehicles electrical system (at 2 or 4 ohms).
Love that ministry/pioneer commercial @ the end!
thanks for the great videos. nice to see pioneer with a good budget amp.
Thanks for measuring idling current too
The new amps are a cool addition to the channel. Great video!
I've occasionally done new amps over the years, but plan on doing more in the future as well.
Nice amps I've got the gmd-x871 love it running at 1 ohm never gets hot .
Just purchased mine and am really happy with it makes my two kicker comp rs wired at 800 rms each slap and pushes them with no problems
Man i miss this style of recording an editing you used to do but i still greatly enjoy your new content also this style is just easy to follow an pay attention lol
I miss their old free air impp subwoofers. I also had their tsw305dvc and they was incredible
thanks for the purchase and testing it for us!
Happy to help out. The more views/shares/likes/comments I can get on these videos, the more I can buy and test for you guys.
I ran this amp with tow Champion Series 12s. This series is good quality and a lot of sound for your $. Even the 10s on their 760 bump good
Subscribed. Really digging the old school theme of the channel. I've always had an affinity for old school tech, first set up was a used crunch drive series ds-2400vu 800x2 and a set of cerwin vega hed 12's around 2002 in high school. I remember wanting to find a set of matching drive series fat boy subs to go with that amp so bad! Current set up is a Rockford Fosgate punch hx2 RFD1210, on a 07 era Rockford p300-1. Sub is crying for more power, lol.
Never owned anything nice enough to write home about, nothing like you find at least.
I do have a Rockford power 1000.1bd from late 90's/early 2000's in storage that quit working several years back, your channel has got me wanting to dig it out and trouble shoot it. Guy had it on Craigslist in perfect shape, end caps and all for $40... That amp pushed two 15's for a few years, then one day it wouldn't turn on and it went into storage and was replaced by a Lanzar Optidrive 2000.1d... Not a fan of the newer Lanzar products, but the older opti line was pretty good.
I love seeing the old school Phoenix Gold amps. I never could afford the big ones, only one I could afford back in the day was a m25 but it still kicked but.
Just bought this using your Amazon link. Thanks for the great info and honest information!
Awesome, thanks 👌
This is a very good amp I have mine hooked up to a pioneer spl 12 been running it everyday to work and back for a over a year and have no problems awesome power and never over heats
+Adam Ramirez thanks for sharing your experience. May help other people deciding on this amp 👍
Pioneer head units always gave me the best sound signal for me..I never stray off that brand for head unit.
Thanks! I got the gmd 8601 but not quite happy with power. Love the amp so this video helped me make my mind to get bigger brother 9601! Keep the vids coming.
+Lord Sagat thanks for watching and commenting
I think I'll get this amp next month .already got the smaller one and it does justice to my sub.
Great test Wiz... Thinking of running one of these.
+# Guiltless awesome amp!
Bought one to say thx u for dyno the different amps for us
Thanks for watching and commenting!
Used this amp for 6 years pushing it hard daily. Still soldiering on. Can't say that about my previous amps
All your videos are awesome
All your comments are awesome 👏
I'm so glad that I got to see a Pioneer on the dyno. I've never seen a Pioneer with a cappy board. All the one ones I've opened up always had a nice and clean layout. I agree about the ratings on the box...but man no matter how much you try to tell some people they still won't listen. They'll say, "Man I can get this 4000 watt brand X over here for $100." I hate the numbers game too! I've used Pioneer for head units and I've used their Champion Series subs. My friends couldn't believe that Pioneer subs would sound as good as mine did. Never used their amps for subs though. After seeing this video I will use one.
I've always had really good luck with pioneer.
Good, to the point and detailed review. Thumbs up, man.
Thanks yo!
Thanks for these videos Big D!
+Trapperjohn1000 👍
Pioneer does say max power which does confuse people, but they also state the RMS wattages on their subs and amps. I love their champion series / champion series pro subs, especially the TS-W3002D4 (1k watts rms 2 ohms). Pioneer has been my favorite since I have been a child, I have tried their head units, subs, and amps. Pioneer has 4 ohm AV Recievers!! It is hard to find 4 ohm av recievers.
love your videos keep up the work good sir!
Wow Pioneers do their rated power and more i really enjoy the guts and dyno, i appreciate your work man keep it up always love your videos
Thanks for the comment and motivation to get out more videos
Wow I never woulda guessed. 1768 on a dynamic burst ??? And 1300 watts before clipping ?? I'm impressed. Also, thank you so much for the video. Nobody else has done a "real" test of this amplifier.
Awesome channel. This review was instrumental in my purchase. Subscribed.
+Brandon Sealey glad it helped bro
May run 1 of these in my daily on a couple Pioneer 12's..Clean powaaaa
Thanks for dynoing this amp. It's really nice for the money that I spent on it ($130). Only things I wish it had were a subsonic filter and a bass knob that wasn't a bass boost, but for the price I can't complain lol
I have this amp and I love it for a small amp it packs a punch I have it pushing 2 12s kicker comps!!
Amazing video
i had one bout 20 years ago it pushed 4 12s 2 cerwin vegas and hyphonics Olympian warriors atill have warriors this day still work these pioneers were good for budget beats for sure
Been waiting for this video for awhile thanks you Bigdwiz
Glad it was helpful
Using this amp for 3 07cvr124 in a wedge box for my single cab, it bangs
I have this small amp and its pumping my 2 12inch kickers real nice!!
Awesome 👏
I like this AMP. Tested it for some time.
Thanks for the review. I actually purchased one based on your information.
+Chris Wesney glad it helped. Thanks for watching and commenting 👍
Great video.